@@BlackLightAttack I would like To believe this theory. She's so slick with the sleight of hand. And when we do see it resurface as he pointed out then that was just she was getting that drunk that she wasn't able to hide it as well
The marines setting up a senior meeting makes a lot of sense when you realize that they probably were wary because Luffy's full name was quite similar to their legendary hero Garp.
Iirc they are wary of luffy defeating problematic figures within east blue (consecutively with short intervals) They probably did the same with kid, law and other rookies before they get their own bounties
Also it's been clearly stated that Luffy was given an unprecedented starting bounty, especially for an East Blue pirate, so it stands to reason that a few higher ups would object to it before getting the details, and then a meeting would have to be called to explain and justify the bounty before it gets approved. (Although I'm betting that if not for his relations to Garp and Dragon, the turnout would be much smaller.)
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I always thought about how the villagers of cocoyashi island paid a total amount of 25 million monthly or something like that to Arlong. So the only thing Nami had to do was getting to 75 million and then ask the villagers to pay the rest and they would be free
I think Shanks losing an arm you could say he was so worried about saving Luffy he completely lost his composure, and putting his own body in front of Luffy was a split section reaction because he saw so much potential in Luffy as the future, and at this point even knew Luffy was sungod Nika because he'd eaten the fruit
I just got into the Skypiea arc today and man how they got up there had me thinking wow this writing really loves his dirty jokes. Knock-up stream anyone? You know it erupts randomly every time XD
It wasn’t just some random kid in east blue, it was the grandson of the greatest marine hero, son of the worlds most wanted man, brother of a whitebeard commander, wearing the hat that belonged to a yonko, and he took out a warlords former subordinate
There is one thing that I always wondered about the east blue saga. How does the Baratie makes enough money? It doesn't seem like they would see a lot of traffic and running a restaurant ship seems quite expensive.
well in the defense of the marine: that one unimportant rubber boy in the east blue, from that unimportant event, has the same last name as one important well known marine hero.
This was Kuro's actual plan: 1. Gain trust of village & Kaya 2. Hypnotize Kaya to have him added to the will 3. His crew (but not him) raids the village & kills Kaya, his crew leaves with the spoils 4. He inherits the land & building, nobody suspects him If we assume the hypnosis is only temporary & that people retain memories of being hypnotized plus what they did while hypnotized, this plan makes perfect sense.
Didn't shanks lose an arm because oda was told he wasn't interesting enough and needed something extra. If I'm not mistaken manga started with that flashback while anime it was a few episodes in
This is th second time I’ve heard someone misunderstand kuro’s plan. I’ll break it down so there will be no misunderstandings. Kuro wants to stop being a pirate. He has his hypnotist convince a marine to think that kuro is dead. He goes on the run and finds himself in syrup village. He decides that he likes the village and would like to enjoy the life of the richest people in the town. He contacts his crew and tells them to do a raid. The purpose of the raid is to cover up the fact that he is also coercing the sole benefactor of the house into giving him her entire inheritance. Because he’s also strong he can kill all of his crew members. If his plan had worked out, he’d be wealthy and there would be no witnesses.
Though a bit lame, most all of these things make sense. For example, Sanji just forgot about that devil fruit users sink in the moment due to all of the craziness going on at the time. Actually feels like a pretty human thing to do, especially when you likely just witnessed it in person for the first time. Yes, a lot of these are intuitive. Just because Shanks is really strong doesn't mean he wasn't tired out from swimming all the way out there to get to Luffy. Though it is strange that Luffy didn't immediately sink when the guy kicked him off. He even wore a shirt that said "anchor" lol. Early minor things that don't ruin scenes like this, thankfully, as the important thing is that they're still thematically consistent.
Any long story evolves in its progress. One piece is incredibly coherent overall. But yes there are some very weird things in the beginning. Also Haki in general
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Shanks said he "Gave" his arm because that's the reason he lost it. He allowed the creature to get it so Luffy understood the risks of being a pirate and that most likely was the key event that convinced Luffy to train and wait until he was older and much stronger. It was a sacrifice done on purpose for a cause that he was successful at completing basically.
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Rewatching One Piece from the start with friends both new and familiar to the series. So far it's been great. Just got passed Syrup VIllage and it wasn't that bad, in retrospect. xD
Buggy's master plan to blame Social Justice rather than Absolute Justice for losing his position as a Warlord would have worked perfectly, but unfortunately Morgans owns both One Piece Twitter *and* the Newspaper. And he rather enjoys his tarts.
It was probably bc of luffys life being in danger he put his arm in to save luffy that doesn’t make him not strong enough to attack the monster he just probably knew the only reaction that would be fast enough to work was use arm
The meeting about Luffy's first bounty isn't too weird if you consider he is now the strongest pirate of East Blue. Yes EB is the weakest sea, but it is one of the 5 seas the WG controls and losing control of it to a pirate would be a major political issue, if Luffy had decided to stay there. It's easy to forget the OP world isn't just the Grand Line, there are probably a lot of problems in the blues the WG has to deal with. Probably what all those other Cipher Pols we haven't seen are for.
U can tell A whole bunch of one piece was still being finalized and i agree with mr morj’s idea that the bounty inconsistencies arent TOOO bad, cuz when ur reading it the numbers seem big and u feel the growth. Then theres assumptions/ head canon u can ponder. Such as, maybe the reason they had that meeting at marineford for such a “ nobody” pirate was cuz they knew he had the rubber fruit. We know now it was of some importance cuz of wano and that one ex CP member.
MANGA SPOILERS: I think the inconsistency of the marines meeting to talk about Luffy and setting a high bounty for him makes more sense now that we know what Luffy’s devil fruit means to the 5 nobles. The showing of the people he beat in East Blue could be to frame that the person holding such a fruit is not a helpless weakling. Granted, as creative as Oda is, I don’t know if he had thought that far ahead, just that the way the cards fell made that one a bit more consistent.
A boy named MONKEY D Luffy becoming a pirate is a big deal lol. They don’t really address it out loud but his name is MONKEY D. Like the hero of the marines and the leader of the revolutionaries.
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If shanks is a master of observation haki at this point he can easily sense where that bandit went, remember when ace went to shanks, Shanks sense his presence upon docking on the shore.
Arlong may not be as strong as Jinbei overall, but he does have an advantage over Jinbei in the form of a long nose, which we know to be an indicator of incredible power. Examples of that being God Usopp/Sniper King.
The fact that we can say that early Onepiece is so inconsistent just goes to show how consistent the manga eventually becomes. It’s really fascinating seeing those retcons and early idea that had to get changed because it shows us Oda’s thought process. Great video!
Oda sensei was still an assistant before One piece. Of course these are some small consistent...because of Oda hard work, 20 hours a day for 20+ years... One piece is a masterpiece today.
Not a single one of that "Inconsistencies" is of actual importance to anything anything. Maybe the Sanji one with the devil fruit, but if oda cared he could explain it easily. For example "Sanji actually only read some devil fruit entries, he didn't read the overall info on devil fruits" or some shit like that. Also who cares
@@sebitei I hate seeing this noted as an inconsistency on so many videos because I always thought it could be explained as “he forgot”. After all, considering Sanji’s surprise to Luffy’s devil fruit abilities, it’s easy to assume that he, as well as everyone else in the East Blue, never came across Devil fruit users. So I believe it’s not silly to assume that that detail about DF users just didn’t cross his mind. Especially considering, the heat of excitement after Krieg’s defeat. Far from a plot hole or big inconsistency.
Shanks has stated that he "bet" his arm on the new era, which I guess means he willingly let the sea king eat his arm, with the idea that it'd make Luffy realize that the sea is dangerous and postpone his departure until he was older and stronger. Maybe if he'd come out completely unscathed Luffy would have kept insisting he take him along, or even stow away in his ship, and become a pirate way earlier than Shanks thought he should. EDIT: to clarify, I know that Shanks losing his arm was an editor's idea. What I'm saying is only a retroactive explanation for what does indeed feel like an inconsistency given today's power levels.
@@ichiruki.forever To Luffy? u think he would have understand? He'll understand only after something happens to his friends cuz of his ignorance. We're talking about a seven year old kid who didn't say a word that would betray his friends even after a whole day of torture.
@UCAGbjUmlan_g9iVbiXyH_kg Definitely not, even though Oda may not have planned the entirety of One Piece from the start Shanks being a strong pirate is very obviously planned from the start. I mean Shanks literally just tells the sea king to fuck off the second it takes his arm. We are also told pretty early on in the east blue that Shanks is a great pirate, the scene with Shanks and Mihawk happens right after Baratie. So Oda when he drew that scene of Shanks definitely already had it in his mind that he was very strong.
Well shiki talk about east blue like the most "weak" sea, and some say it's the most peaceful of the 4 sea, so maybe when there is someone intelligent, there are like : Its big brain time 🤷♂️
Kuro wanted to live a normal life away from piracy. That’s why he wanted to gain the trust of the villagers and kaya. After doing so, he would raid the village, get kaya to give up her fortune, and then live a normal life, while blaming the pirates for killing kaya. This way the marines wouldn’t be alerted of captain kuro’s return and so kurahadol would live a nice quiet life in a mansion.
He could've easily just done that all in day 1. There was no need to gain trust. And he never says what he would do when facing the WG. He just says later on that he was always gonna kill them.
I just watched this arc for the first time, so I can confirm what you're saying is correct, he wanted to stay and have a peaceful life with the villagers, but the bigger plothole here is why didn't he just hypnotise the villagers day one? Is it because the hypnotism is temporary or is that reaching too much?
@@captainperiwinkle I think the hypnotism was something he was forced into when he realized he wasn't getting in that will with his first plan. He's basically the butler from Aristocats, only he's the one with cat claws.
11:38 The average bounty in the east blue is 3 million berries. Buggy, Arlong and Krieg were the 3 top dogs of an entire ocean. Defeating the three like that certainly would warrant such commotion from the navy's part.
The situation with Shanks gets addressed at post Enies lobby when Whitebeard asks him “everyone was surprised that you lost an arm, to what formidable enemy did you give it?” And Shank’s response was “I bet it on a new era” so maybe Shank chose to lose the arm to inspire Luffy to be a pirate
I just think “sacrificing arm for next gen” is a dumb answer. It’s outright silly tbh. Like… he didn’t need to lose his arm to the giant scary sea monster to impart the “sea is dangerous” wisdom.
I believe he sacrificed his arm to help Luffy realise that the sea is a dangerous place. Luffy knew Shanks was strong, so seeing Shanks lose his arm would make Luffy delay his decision of going out to the sea and hence Luffy would be safe until he was ready to turn the world upside down.
Yeah pretty sure its more like the story was a 5 year long story back then and it would make sense in that circumstance. Now tho. It doesnt. 24 years later you know.
It also teaches Luffy what it means to protect your nakama. It's not a matter of going out, fists swinging, defending people's honor or some crap. It means a lot more than that. Sometimes it means personal sacrifice. It's not a matter of whether you can take care of yourself. Can you take care of your people? This is what that looks like, kiddo. This is why Luffy decides he wants to gather a crew of his own after he gets stronger.
@@14thsomebodyelse or it was just to close to not lose his arm? He is not god u dont know how much time he had. how tf is the argument that he invincible we never even saw him fight
@@gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926 he fought mihawk and won... He's also a Haki user. No, the only possibilities are either he did it on purpose to get a message to Luffy, or it is just a giant plot hole.
I think with Zoro in the early manga anyway with him contradicting the character we know. I get the impression that Oda wanted to make Zoro originally more of a doubtful character. Like could he actually be trusted on what he said or not? But I think as the story went on. Oda scrapped that idea for Zoro's character and made his a straightforward swordsman who considers it dishonourable to go back on his word.
@@GrandLineReview He could have hypnotized the entire village to make it so that he was just a member of Kaya’s family and the heir of her fortune! Cats are known for having 9 lives, not brains.
@@GrandLineReview Kuro never says it outright, but personally I think the "Kurahadol" ruse was also meant to train himself and see how well he could (re)adjust to civilian life after years of living in a cutthroat environment. If he wants to live in retirement, he has to interact with wider society sooner or later, and he can't hypnotize (or kill) *every* person who gets the tiniest bit suspicious.
I feel like 99% of the inconsistencies in East Blue can be explained by either Oda not knowing how the story would pan out years in the future or characters just being overwhelmingly stupid
@@Lemontarts01 it's funny hahah and it goes well with the story. honestly one piece will always remain one of my favorite, especially since I started watching and reading it since I was little, so there is a bit of nostalgia there. That being said I think it's one of the best shonen out there, it keeps that sense of adventure and wonder (you still don't know how the ending will be), it's perfect for the demographic it's aimed. Obviously it's not the anime you watch if you want something dark or some topics to be treated seriously. But I think it's one of the few that it's well made and stayed pure shonen, even tho there are some inconsistency, but it's nothing, in my opinion that prevent enjoying it
A male arm is listed as being 5,70% of the total mass. As Shanks' bounty is 4,048,900,000 berries, this totals to 230,787,300 berries. So you are correct!
@@Maronics Names don't always mean one is related. It could just be a coincidence. Just because his name is Monkey D. Luffy doesn't necessarily mean he's related Garp and Dragon just by the name alone.
plot twist, he sacrificed the arm so that mihawk will no longer be his rival and wont bug him for duels anymore. and it turns out shanks dropped off zoro in that dojo specifically so he'd be into swordsmanship to dehtrone mihawk in the future.
@@aldenmcgrath9722 And it turns out, he was Rick from Rick and Morty in disguise trying to get Luffy to be King of The Pirates to get his phone battery to work again
10:40 Shanks and Buggy were once equals as well and Oda stated that Buggy became weak and lazy while Shanks kept training which is why they have such a gap in power and that it could also have been the other way around if their situations had been inverted. Arlong did the same by settling in the weakest sea. Moreover, Jinbei was consistently shown to be stronger than Arlong as he defeated Rear-Admiral Strawberry who should be somewhat relative in power to pre-timeskip X Drake while Arlong would never be able to defeat a decent Captain like pre-timeskip Smoker and Hina or post-timeskip Coby and Tashigi who are 2 ranks below Rear-Admiral. In my opinion the only Captain he would be able to defeat is Morgan. So this may just be a misconception from East Blue inhabitants due to the fact that Jinbei and Arlong are the (two) most prominent figures of the Sun Pirates being Fisher Tiger. Also, if Jinbei was chosen as a Warlord instead of Arlong then this had to mean he was inevitably more powerful than him no matter what Yosaku said.
In the start of the series I thought Shanks was just a small pirate but a kind and good one and when luffy enters grand line he knows Shanks has been killed and he will avenge him
The point of Kuro's plan was to retire from piracy entirely and live a comfortable, peaceful life. The three years of servitude was to endear the butler Klahadore to the townsfolk and make himself a respected fixture of Syrup Village. Hypnotizing Kaya to write the will had to wait until Klahadore was well known and liked, so nobody would question that she left her fortune to him. The pirate raid was a way to kill Kaya without raising suspicion that she was being targeted specifically. And the killing of his own crew was to remove any loose end that could potentially link back to his past as a pirate. It's insanely convoluted, yes, but it makes sense from a logistical standpoint.
I've got possible explanations I've leaned on for some of these. - Alvida was probably just similar enough to Luffy to lack foresight on her sea voyages. So a nerd like Koby was a massive stroke of luck. - Roger Pirates. Two possibilities. 1) A vast amount of the group just hadn't physically been in the Grand Line or on the crew long enough to see Devil Fruits themselves. 2) It's one thing to see a guy create shockwaves by punching the air, it's another thing to believe he actually got those powers from eating a bad tasting fruit.
Regarding Kuro's plan to not just immediately hypnotize her he probably wanted to be safe given Jango is only able to do hypnosis right about 1/3 of the time
In Kuro's case, it might have been because it would have been suspicious for him to just show up, then suddenly Kaya gives him the inheritance. I think he didn't hypnotize the villagers because it would have been too challenging for Jango, I mean, that guy gets hypnotized by himself... Also if Kuro just killed the entire village it would have caught the Marines's attention.
Many speak of the day in which Luffy and Shanks will reunite, or perhaps the when Usopp will finally meet Yasopp. But I only hope to see an encounter between Coby and Alvida.
Viz still gets me mad they still haven’t changed “shadow doppelgänger” to “shadow clone” for the Naruto/Boruto manga even tho it’s universally known as clone by every Naruto fan
I've always thought that shanks lost his arm due to the sudden nature of the event. Like the only thing on his mind was to save Luffy no matter the cost. And that the creature was already too close to Luffy for him to save him without getting hurt.
yeah but its not like he wasnt used to that or didnt know how to use armament haki because remember he was mihawk’s rival also just added mihawk is old as shi-
I think shanks gave his arm to show luffy that the sea isnt as kind as he thinks. It's a dangerous thing to set sail to the seas. I remember shanks talking to rayleigh and telling him that he met a kid who said EXACTLY what roger did. So I think he did that as a wager to the next generation to quote the man himself
I think Shanks was dying n saw that there was no cure n the poison was spreading from his arm to the rest of the body so he decided to jxt let the sea monster eat his arm
In the Arlong arc, when Luffy is underwater technically his feet are in concrete so he sinks faster but retains a tiny bit of movement Edit: nah, that's still pretty clearly nonsense Odamnesia is surely at play
Is this an anime only thing or is there also movement in the manga (And by manga movement, I'm referring to the way manga artists draw panels to convey movement of the characters)
@@pizzweak580 Luffy does have rock on foot in manga yes. Edit: chapter 84 Luffy does the hand over mouth fingers in nose thing. He first enters the water in chapter 83 and spends weeks of irl time underwater,, multiple chapters
i always thought that shanks sacrificed his arm on purpose to teach luffy a lesson about how dangerous the sea is. he didnt want luffy to rush out into the sea prematurely and die.
Shanks lost his arm on purpose. It was to motivate Luffy into becoming a pirate because if Luffy feels some sort of debt towards Shanks it will make him want to repay it by becoming stronger.
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Nami's alcoholism resurfaces every now and again, like in Skypiea and Fishman Island.
it's only due to Nami's incredible sleight of hand that we as viewers/readers don't see her frequently pulling out a flask to take the edge off
@@BlackLightAttack I would like To believe this theory. She's so slick with the sleight of hand. And when we do see it resurface as he pointed out then that was just she was getting that drunk that she wasn't able to hide it as well
I also realized she was barely legal...
Also in whisky peak
@@vailingbow1068 barely legal is still legal 😏
I am not suprised a long running series like One Piece has inconsistencies. Shorter series of great quality have inconsistencies too.
Don’t come in here and bring logic and goodwill.
Some of these aren't even inconsistencies though. Some of these are easily explainable
And those shorter ones have bigger inconsistencies sometimes too.
Yeah man, see jojo for example
Ah shorter than one piece? What a rarity
If Shanks’ foot is worth 100 Mio Berries, isn’t the local sea monster incredibly rich?
A handy amount of cash indeed
@@bikbikkun he is living in the most beautifully palace in atlantis
By one piece standards, that sea monster probably has a bounty as high as caribou.
So rich that it shïts currencies
The sea king was preparing for the great depression 🤣🤣 investing for his future kids
The marines setting up a senior meeting makes a lot of sense when you realize that they probably were wary because Luffy's full name was quite similar to their legendary hero Garp.
and dragon
Iirc they are wary of luffy defeating problematic figures within east blue (consecutively with short intervals)
They probably did the same with kid, law and other rookies before they get their own bounties
Also it's been clearly stated that Luffy was given an unprecedented starting bounty, especially for an East Blue pirate, so it stands to reason that a few higher ups would object to it before getting the details, and then a meeting would have to be called to explain and justify the bounty before it gets approved. (Although I'm betting that if not for his relations to Garp and Dragon, the turnout would be much smaller.)
And we would later learn that the Gomu gomu no mi was pretty special, and maybe they recognized the straw hat?
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To be fair
All orange juice is weird reconstituted zombie juice
*drinks it obnoxiously loudly*
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I always thought about how the villagers of cocoyashi island paid a total amount of 25 million monthly or something like that to Arlong. So the only thing Nami had to do was getting to 75 million and then ask the villagers to pay the rest and they would be free
I think Shanks losing an arm you could say he was so worried about saving Luffy he completely lost his composure, and putting his own body in front of Luffy was a split section reaction because he saw so much potential in Luffy as the future, and at this point even knew Luffy was sungod Nika because he'd eaten the fruit
I just got into the Skypiea arc today and man how they got up there had me thinking wow this writing really loves his dirty jokes. Knock-up stream anyone? You know it erupts randomly every time XD
The attack about the pulp in orange juice was about as Affective as “your village has been raided by 那覇宮城!” 😑
It wasn’t just some random kid in east blue, it was the grandson of the greatest marine hero, son of the worlds most wanted man, brother of a whitebeard commander, wearing the hat that belonged to a yonko, and he took out a warlords former subordinate
There is one thing that I always wondered about the east blue saga. How does the Baratie makes enough money? It doesn't seem like they would see a lot of traffic and running a restaurant ship seems quite expensive.
well in the defense of the marine:
that one unimportant rubber boy in the east blue, from that unimportant event, has the same last name as one important well known marine hero.
I can't believe you completely forgot that Don Crieg's crew somehow returned from the Grand Line
First problem, Usopp isn't in episodes 1-7. This concludes the list of problems with East blue
I’m home quarantined and I started watching one piece I love the adventure stories but most of the times it feels like it forgets to make us laugh
This was Kuro's actual plan:
1. Gain trust of village & Kaya
2. Hypnotize Kaya to have him added to the will
3. His crew (but not him) raids the village & kills Kaya, his crew leaves with the spoils
4. He inherits the land & building, nobody suspects him
If we assume the hypnosis is only temporary & that people retain memories of being hypnotized plus what they did while hypnotized, this plan makes perfect sense.
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Shanks probably lost the arm to give Luffy a bigger boost of motivation to do pirating.
Didn't shanks lose an arm because oda was told he wasn't interesting enough and needed something extra. If I'm not mistaken manga started with that flashback while anime it was a few episodes in
This is th second time I’ve heard someone misunderstand kuro’s plan. I’ll break it down so there will be no misunderstandings. Kuro wants to stop being a pirate. He has his hypnotist convince a marine to think that kuro is dead. He goes on the run and finds himself in syrup village. He decides that he likes the village and would like to enjoy the life of the richest people in the town. He contacts his crew and tells them to do a raid. The purpose of the raid is to cover up the fact that he is also coercing the sole benefactor of the house into giving him her entire inheritance. Because he’s also strong he can kill all of his crew members. If his plan had worked out, he’d be wealthy and there would be no witnesses.
Though a bit lame, most all of these things make sense. For example, Sanji just forgot about that devil fruit users sink in the moment due to all of the craziness going on at the time. Actually feels like a pretty human thing to do, especially when you likely just witnessed it in person for the first time.
Yes, a lot of these are intuitive. Just because Shanks is really strong doesn't mean he wasn't tired out from swimming all the way out there to get to Luffy. Though it is strange that Luffy didn't immediately sink when the guy kicked him off. He even wore a shirt that said "anchor" lol. Early minor things that don't ruin scenes like this, thankfully, as the important thing is that they're still thematically consistent.
Any long story evolves in its progress. One piece is incredibly coherent overall. But yes there are some very weird things in the beginning. Also Haki in general
I personally think Conquers and Observation Haki were implemented pretty decently.
But Armament Haki was implemented a bit questionably in my opinion
Awww Liam :( I love Pulpy OJ. Cant we all agree that we all have our own personal preferences for things? Its not like people who enjoy pulp are also speaking about why Trebol is a good character.
Grand line review thoughts about ch 1026 literally blew my mind
Big News Morgans is probably filthy rich from snapping candid Shanks/Yonko feet pics for a secondary publication he owns.
Shanks said he "Gave" his arm because that's the reason he lost it. He allowed the creature to get it so Luffy understood the risks of being a pirate and that most likely was the key event that convinced Luffy to train and wait until he was older and much stronger. It was a sacrifice done on purpose for a cause that he was successful at completing basically.
Please read:::Kaido is just finding someone who could kill him. It may be prophecy that he could only be killed by joy boy.
In one piece there are two God's the sun god luffy and moon God momonuske.
Shanks explained it himself later. He says he bet it in the future. He let his arm be eaten to teach Luffy a lesson that day.
That comment about no pulp just took away your bell privileges, no cap.
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Rewatching One Piece from the start with friends both new and familiar to the series. So far it's been great. Just got passed Syrup VIllage and it wasn't that bad, in retrospect. xD
6:21 buggy ain’t wrong though
Maybe the lord of the coast was too close to attacking luffy for shanks to attack without risking injury to him
Buggy's master plan to blame Social Justice rather than Absolute Justice for losing his position as a Warlord would have worked perfectly, but unfortunately Morgans owns both One Piece Twitter *and* the Newspaper.
And he rather enjoys his tarts.
It was probably bc of luffys life being in danger he put his arm in to save luffy that doesn’t make him not strong enough to attack the monster he just probably knew the only reaction that would be fast enough to work was use arm
Could Pearl possibly be Lunarian if his Pearls don't just auto-ignite?
woopslap knows the secret of the will of D screencap this
11:03 You are INSANELY WRONG here. Everyone knows gala apples are the best.
Shark-based service is such an amazing expression
2nd time he mentioned pulp in 🍊 juice aka Thee O.J. He must have a vendetta against it...and I do too
The meeting about Luffy's first bounty isn't too weird if you consider he is now the strongest pirate of East Blue. Yes EB is the weakest sea, but it is one of the 5 seas the WG controls and losing control of it to a pirate would be a major political issue, if Luffy had decided to stay there.
It's easy to forget the OP world isn't just the Grand Line, there are probably a lot of problems in the blues the WG has to deal with. Probably what all those other Cipher Pols we haven't seen are for.
for over 1000 chapters this is a really good written series, without "big failures"
Honestly I think that senior Marines showed up for the bounty of the rookie monkey d luffy was because he had the D
I think they carried so much about Luffy when he was a rookie because he was garps grandson 😅
U can tell A whole bunch of one piece was still being finalized and i agree with mr morj’s idea that the bounty inconsistencies arent TOOO bad, cuz when ur reading it the numbers seem big and u feel the growth. Then theres assumptions/ head canon u can ponder. Such as, maybe the reason they had that meeting at marineford for such a “ nobody” pirate was cuz they knew he had the rubber fruit. We know now it was of some importance cuz of wano and that one ex CP member.
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I think the inconsistency of the marines meeting to talk about Luffy and setting a high bounty for him makes more sense now that we know what Luffy’s devil fruit means to the 5 nobles. The showing of the people he beat in East Blue could be to frame that the person holding such a fruit is not a helpless weakling.
Granted, as creative as Oda is, I don’t know if he had thought that far ahead, just that the way the cards fell made that one a bit more consistent.
A boy named MONKEY D Luffy becoming a pirate is a big deal lol. They don’t really address it out loud but his name is MONKEY D. Like the hero of the marines and the leader of the revolutionaries.
Even with it's meaning, "tart" has to be the most toned down insult to give someone 🤣, so you're probably right that people would be offended.
2:47 killed me hahahaha
ORANGE JUICE WITH PULP IS NOT DISGUSTING 😡
Nice puns in this one, Liam. Was laughing out loud a couple of times :D "we suck... suck... suck... suck..." and pink lady is indeed the good stuff! just like your content!
The "WE SUCK" bit made me chuckle
This was actually a great informative video.
I learned some great information regarding consistency
Sees in recommendation, reads title, jumps into the Vid, do not watch the vid; drop the comment:
NOTHING WAS WRONG!
The whole narrative does not make a single Spence.
Kuro at least is one hell of an actor xd
If shanks is a master of observation haki at this point he can easily sense where that bandit went, remember when ace went to shanks, Shanks sense his presence upon docking on the shore.
Never doubt oda, shanks losing an arm will be revealed in due course
You doin the be theory reaction?
Pink Lady's are definitely the best
I think the senior conference for Luffy's bounty makes a little sense at least, he is a D. after all
How much editing do you dooo
Pulpy orange juice has best of both worlds it has both pulp and juice
Orange juice itself is weird, like bro, just eat the orange lol
Arlong may not be as strong as Jinbei overall, but he does have an advantage over Jinbei in the form of a long nose, which we know to be an indicator of incredible power. Examples of that being God Usopp/Sniper King.
Shut up
Your…your screen name is curious 🤨
@@Seven-9090 why are you so mad?
@@Seven-9090 why u gotta be such a sussy Baka all of the things they sad was true
@@Shaxdyd cringe ngl
But overall still, the early One Piece has a special place in our hearts
Hands down
There's nothing in this world that makes my heart shake like listening to 1-5 openings, so many feelings and memories from my childhood
@@Danienti true 👍
Very true. One Piece will always hold a special place in my heart. It may sound weird but One Piece saved my life.
@@Danienti especially the first ending song, Memories. Oh man, that and Wind really hits home
The fact that we can say that early Onepiece is so inconsistent just goes to show how consistent the manga eventually becomes. It’s really fascinating seeing those retcons and early idea that had to get changed because it shows us Oda’s thought process. Great video!
And tbh, those inconsistencies aren't even that big.
Oda sensei was still an assistant before One piece. Of course these are some small consistent...because of Oda hard work, 20 hours a day for 20+ years... One piece is a masterpiece today.
Not a single one of that "Inconsistencies" is of actual importance to anything anything. Maybe the Sanji one with the devil fruit, but if oda cared he could explain it easily. For example "Sanji actually only read some devil fruit entries, he didn't read the overall info on devil fruits" or some shit like that. Also who cares
@@sebitei I hate seeing this noted as an inconsistency on so many videos because I always thought it could be explained as “he forgot”. After all, considering Sanji’s surprise to Luffy’s devil fruit abilities, it’s easy to assume that he, as well as everyone else in the East Blue, never came across Devil fruit users. So I believe it’s not silly to assume that that detail about DF users just didn’t cross his mind. Especially considering, the heat of excitement after Krieg’s defeat. Far from a plot hole or big inconsistency.
@@vailingbow1068 big facts. Most of these inconsistencies are pretty tiny compared to other shonen of that era
Shanks has stated that he "bet" his arm on the new era, which I guess means he willingly let the sea king eat his arm, with the idea that it'd make Luffy realize that the sea is dangerous and postpone his departure until he was older and stronger. Maybe if he'd come out completely unscathed Luffy would have kept insisting he take him along, or even stow away in his ship, and become a pirate way earlier than Shanks thought he should.
EDIT: to clarify, I know that Shanks losing his arm was an editor's idea. What I'm saying is only a retroactive explanation for what does indeed feel like an inconsistency given today's power levels.
theres many ways to traumatize a kid about being pirate is dangerous not just sacrifising ones arm... hes just weak to protecc his arm from fishbite
@@ichiruki.forever To Luffy? u think he would have understand? He'll understand only after something happens to his friends cuz of his ignorance. We're talking about a seven year old kid who didn't say a word that would betray his friends even after a whole day of torture.
@UCAGbjUmlan_g9iVbiXyH_kg Definitely not, even though Oda may not have planned the entirety of One Piece from the start Shanks being a strong pirate is very obviously planned from the start. I mean Shanks literally just tells the sea king to fuck off the second it takes his arm. We are also told pretty early on in the east blue that Shanks is a great pirate, the scene with Shanks and Mihawk happens right after Baratie. So Oda when he drew that scene of Shanks definitely already had it in his mind that he was very strong.
@@ichiruki.forever by that logic luffy stronger than shanks
Ya i read this and think it's probably a defining moment for him.
Also, I want to take a moment to realize that Kuro was apparently "the second most intelligent person in all of East Blue", just behind BENN BECKMAN
maybe east blue is not the most intelligent place in the world
Well shiki talk about east blue like the most "weak" sea, and some say it's the most peaceful of the 4 sea, so maybe when there is someone intelligent, there are like : Its big brain time 🤷♂️
and Nami is the third lol
Read it in Kizaru's voice
and right in front of NAMI
Kuro wanted to live a normal life away from piracy. That’s why he wanted to gain the trust of the villagers and kaya. After doing so, he would raid the village, get kaya to give up her fortune, and then live a normal life, while blaming the pirates for killing kaya. This way the marines wouldn’t be alerted of captain kuro’s return and so kurahadol would live a nice quiet life in a mansion.
He could've easily just done that all in day 1. There was no need to gain trust. And he never says what he would do when facing the WG. He just says later on that he was always gonna kill them.
I just watched this arc for the first time, so I can confirm what you're saying is correct, he wanted to stay and have a peaceful life with the villagers, but the bigger plothole here is why didn't he just hypnotise the villagers day one? Is it because the hypnotism is temporary or is that reaching too much?
So he's Yoshikage Kira
@@captainperiwinkle I think the hypnotism was something he was forced into when he realized he wasn't getting in that will with his first plan. He's basically the butler from Aristocats, only he's the one with cat claws.
@@captainperiwinkle If he wanted to live in peace with them why did he want his crew to pillage the village?
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The average bounty in the east blue is 3 million berries. Buggy, Arlong and Krieg were the 3 top dogs of an entire ocean. Defeating the three like that certainly would warrant such commotion from the navy's part.
The situation with Shanks gets addressed at post Enies lobby when Whitebeard asks him “everyone was surprised that you lost an arm, to what formidable enemy did you give it?” And Shank’s response was “I bet it on a new era” so maybe Shank chose to lose the arm to inspire Luffy to be a pirate
maybe, not a bad theory.
@@mosestiai8621 it was to show luffy that the sea is dangerous and its not a game
@@mosestiai8621 being a pirate is not a game
@@Human_traain I know its not a game, all I said was maybe his theory is correct not that yours isnt.
I just think “sacrificing arm for next gen” is a dumb answer.
It’s outright silly tbh.
Like… he didn’t need to lose his arm to the giant scary sea monster to impart the “sea is dangerous” wisdom.
I believe he sacrificed his arm to help Luffy realise that the sea is a dangerous place. Luffy knew Shanks was strong, so seeing Shanks lose his arm would make Luffy delay his decision of going out to the sea and hence Luffy would be safe until he was ready to turn the world upside down.
Yeah pretty sure its more like the story was a 5 year long story back then and it would make sense in that circumstance. Now tho. It doesnt. 24 years later you know.
It also teaches Luffy what it means to protect your nakama. It's not a matter of going out, fists swinging, defending people's honor or some crap. It means a lot more than that. Sometimes it means personal sacrifice. It's not a matter of whether you can take care of yourself. Can you take care of your people? This is what that looks like, kiddo.
This is why Luffy decides he wants to gather a crew of his own after he gets stronger.
True indeed...
@@14thsomebodyelse or it was just to close to not lose his arm? He is not god u dont know how much time he had. how tf is the argument that he invincible we never even saw him fight
@@gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926 he fought mihawk and won... He's also a Haki user. No, the only possibilities are either he did it on purpose to get a message to Luffy, or it is just a giant plot hole.
I think with Zoro in the early manga anyway with him contradicting the character we know. I get the impression that Oda wanted to make Zoro originally more of a doubtful character. Like could he actually be trusted on what he said or not?
But I think as the story went on. Oda scrapped that idea for Zoro's character and made his a straightforward swordsman who considers it dishonourable to go back on his word.
Zoro was kinda like law, even the facial expression the first time we meet them, kinda the "cool and dark boiz"
@@playertube6490 and then Law pulled of that face in 1002
zoro was originally gonna be one of the buggy pirates, so i guess that makes sense.
@@royolaniye6643 is that the one where law doesn't want to be the first one to dodge
Now that you laid it out in front of us, Kuro’s plan has more holes in it than metaphorical buttholes Helmeppo has on his body.
Kuro had to wait the 3 years, just to be a trustworthy element of the village so people wouldn't suspect him for ereditating the money
He wanted to gain everyone's trust and get the money after the pirates kill the girl
So just hypnotise the village into trusting him.
@@GrandLineReview He could have hypnotized the entire village to make it so that he was just a member of Kaya’s family and the heir of her fortune! Cats are known for having 9 lives, not brains.
@@GrandLineReview Kuro never says it outright, but personally I think the "Kurahadol" ruse was also meant to train himself and see how well he could (re)adjust to civilian life after years of living in a cutthroat environment. If he wants to live in retirement, he has to interact with wider society sooner or later, and he can't hypnotize (or kill) *every* person who gets the tiniest bit suspicious.
I feel like 99% of the inconsistencies in East Blue can be explained by either Oda not knowing how the story would pan out years in the future or characters just being overwhelmingly stupid
Characters being overwhelmingly stupid is something thats already pressent and i question how you guys deal with it
@@Lemontarts01 it's funny hahah and it goes well with the story. honestly one piece will always remain one of my favorite, especially since I started watching and reading it since I was little, so there is a bit of nostalgia there. That being said I think it's one of the best shonen out there, it keeps that sense of adventure and wonder (you still don't know how the ending will be), it's perfect for the demographic it's aimed. Obviously it's not the anime you watch if you want something dark or some topics to be treated seriously. But I think it's one of the few that it's well made and stayed pure shonen, even tho there are some inconsistency, but it's nothing, in my opinion that prevent enjoying it
I'm not sure what percentage of a person an arm is but if you think about it shanks probably invested more than 100 million on Luffy
A male arm is listed as being 5,70% of the total mass.
As Shanks' bounty is 4,048,900,000 berries, this totals to 230,787,300 berries.
So you are correct!
"A boy that also nobody cares about" - yeah, not like he's MONKEY D., like the hero of the marines and the leader of the revolutionary army.
But the world didn't know that. In fact it wasn't until the war that the world knew who Luffy really was
@@Nameless82284 What didn't they know, how to compare identical names and arriving at a logical conclusion?
@@Maronics Names don't always mean one is related. It could just be a coincidence. Just because his name is Monkey D. Luffy doesn't necessarily mean he's related Garp and Dragon just by the name alone.
Shanks: "eh... didn't really like that arm anyway"
you did not dead ça
“Well.. I didn’t really wanna be too powerful. I’ll just settle for Yonko”
plot twist, he sacrificed the arm so that mihawk will no longer be his rival and wont bug him for duels anymore.
and it turns out shanks dropped off zoro in that dojo specifically so he'd be into swordsmanship to dehtrone mihawk in the future.
@@aldenmcgrath9722 And it turns out, he was Rick from Rick and Morty in disguise trying to get Luffy to be King of The Pirates to get his phone battery to work again
10:40 Shanks and Buggy were once equals as well and Oda stated that Buggy became weak and lazy while Shanks kept training which is why they have such a gap in power and that it could also have been the other way around if their situations had been inverted.
Arlong did the same by settling in the weakest sea.
Moreover, Jinbei was consistently shown to be stronger than Arlong as he defeated Rear-Admiral Strawberry who should be somewhat relative in power to pre-timeskip X Drake while Arlong would never be able to defeat a decent Captain like pre-timeskip Smoker and Hina or post-timeskip Coby and Tashigi who are 2 ranks below Rear-Admiral.
In my opinion the only Captain he would be able to defeat is Morgan.
So this may just be a misconception from East Blue inhabitants due to the fact that Jinbei and Arlong are the (two) most prominent figures of the Sun Pirates being Fisher Tiger.
Also, if Jinbei was chosen as a Warlord instead of Arlong then this had to mean he was inevitably more powerful than him no matter what Yosaku said.
In the start of the series I thought Shanks was just a small pirate but a kind and good one and when luffy enters grand line he knows Shanks has been killed and he will avenge him
Yeah, nothing implied for me that Shanks is this famous and powerful pirate.
i kinda guessed that he was powerful but not because i knew anything about one piece. he and his crew just seemed strong
@@FlauFly Probably because the story takes place in Luffys perspective and you aren't given those details until the characters find out themselves.
@L Lawliet that means dude literally nerfed himself
The point of Kuro's plan was to retire from piracy entirely and live a comfortable, peaceful life. The three years of servitude was to endear the butler Klahadore to the townsfolk and make himself a respected fixture of Syrup Village. Hypnotizing Kaya to write the will had to wait until Klahadore was well known and liked, so nobody would question that she left her fortune to him. The pirate raid was a way to kill Kaya without raising suspicion that she was being targeted specifically. And the killing of his own crew was to remove any loose end that could potentially link back to his past as a pirate.
It's insanely convoluted, yes, but it makes sense from a logistical standpoint.
I really didn’t need to be attacked like that first thing in the morning. “Drinks pulp”
I actually don’t care if the Orange juice has pulp in it or not, so I always drink the orange juice regardless if it has pulp in it or not.
Pulp is superior anyway
If it doesn't feel like I'm drinking a solid... is it really orange juice? GLR is just wrong here.
I've got possible explanations I've leaned on for some of these.
- Alvida was probably just similar enough to Luffy to lack foresight on her sea voyages. So a nerd like Koby was a massive stroke of luck.
- Roger Pirates. Two possibilities.
1) A vast amount of the group just hadn't physically been in the Grand Line or on the crew long enough to see Devil Fruits themselves.
2) It's one thing to see a guy create shockwaves by punching the air, it's another thing to believe he actually got those powers from eating a bad tasting fruit.
Regarding Kuro's plan to not just immediately hypnotize her he probably wanted to be safe given Jango is only able to do hypnosis right about 1/3 of the time
In Kuro's case, it might have been because it would have been suspicious for him to just show up, then suddenly Kaya gives him the inheritance. I think he didn't hypnotize the villagers because it would have been too challenging for Jango, I mean, that guy gets hypnotized by himself... Also if Kuro just killed the entire village it would have caught the Marines's attention.
Yea Kuro did say that as well
Many speak of the day in which Luffy and Shanks will reunite, or perhaps the when Usopp will finally meet Yasopp. But I only hope to see an encounter between Coby and Alvida.
Oh god the poor girl would have no chance. She will see him and suddenly find herself stuck in the ground upside down with her feet flailing around.
Perhaps we will one day see an epic sniper team up of Usopp and Sogeking!
Viz still gets me mad they still haven’t changed “shadow doppelgänger” to “shadow clone” for the Naruto/Boruto manga even tho it’s universally known as clone by every Naruto fan
Do they still Call Zoro "Zolo"?
@@Pikachu2Ash yaa they still do
I've always thought that shanks lost his arm due to the sudden nature of the event. Like the only thing on his mind was to save Luffy no matter the cost. And that the creature was already too close to Luffy for him to save him without getting hurt.
yeah but its not like he wasnt used to that or didnt know how to use armament haki because remember he was mihawk’s rival also just added mihawk is old as shi-
Buggy saying tart is mild compared to Loki calling Natasha "a mewling quim." in Avengers.
For real
Don’t forget Kuro canonically has the second highest IQ of those from the East Blue
Shhhh..... We don't want to remember that! 🤫
That's rough
Benn Beckman isn't even from the East Blue, so technically Kuro's got the highest IQ.
I think shanks gave his arm to show luffy that the sea isnt as kind as he thinks. It's a dangerous thing to set sail to the seas. I remember shanks talking to rayleigh and telling him that he met a kid who said EXACTLY what roger did. So I think he did that as a wager to the next generation to quote the man himself
I think Shanks was dying n saw that there was no cure n the poison was spreading from his arm to the rest of the body so he decided to jxt let the sea monster eat his arm
Lol, there are many ways to warn someone than being sn idioy by losing your arm... i mean.... lets use our brain a bit
The "Wtf" next to Kuro at 8:06 fucking kills me because I remember watching that scene years ago and thinking, "What kind of fucking stance is that?"
IS THAT A JOJOS REFERENCE?!
Liam is just perfect for "everything wrong with" content
no, its you
Not really. Most of the things he lists in these kinds of videos are extremely dumb and can be explained away with common sense
In the Arlong arc, when Luffy is underwater technically his feet are in concrete so he sinks faster but retains a tiny bit of movement
Edit: nah, that's still pretty clearly nonsense Odamnesia is surely at play
His hands shouldnt be covering his mouth
now that's some plot spackle i can live with.
Is this an anime only thing or is there also movement in the manga (And by manga movement, I'm referring to the way manga artists draw panels to convey movement of the characters)
@@pizzweak580
Luffy does have rock on foot in manga yes.
Edit: chapter 84 Luffy does the hand over mouth fingers in nose thing.
He first enters the water in chapter 83 and spends weeks of irl time underwater,, multiple chapters
@@lulu4882 that's all I do everyday. Headcannon away the plot holes
i always thought that shanks sacrificed his arm on purpose to teach luffy a lesson about how dangerous the sea is. he didnt want luffy to rush out into the sea prematurely and die.
One word to summarize everything wrong with early one piece: "Ace"
Ace wasnt even in early one piece bbut fair enough!
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@@14thsomebodyelse he was in alabasta, which was kinda early, but yeah fair enough
I dont get it
Edit: nvm i got it, its because ace did wrong things that caused the death of alot of peoples
I don't think you understand basic storytelling, but think what you want
Shanks lost his arm on purpose. It was to motivate Luffy into becoming a pirate because if Luffy feels some sort of debt towards Shanks it will make him want to repay it by becoming stronger.
ehhhhhh..
Uhhh …
Kids nowadays.... haysh