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"The fact that the unit was left without ammunition, food, and water, and that the command structure was the one that failed, was ignored." It always is. Always blame the pawns, never the King.
and the fact that, according to the movie about the siege, Dr O'Brien was happy to "sacrifice a pawn" ie give up Jadotville which Company A was ordered to "hold at all costs", if the location is si crucial that it needs to be held, then reinforce it, if it a region that can be given up, then pull the troops out as soon as they situation is hopeless. I think O'Brien went to the Adolf Hitler school of military strategy.
@@kingofthejungle3833 Wow, that's a total strategic waste too. Why would you waste troops, especially if you can A) reinforce them and hold the position or B) pull them back to a more secure or easily held area where you can then reinforce them. There are so, so many options you could take rather than sacrificing men, and that strategy simply never does anyone any good. Like even if you remove the morality of it, it's still a terrible logistical and strategic move. You're just throwing away man power when there's potential to keep said manpower by properly reinforcing or redeploying them. If they fought this well with no help, imagine what they could have done with assistance, it simply makes no sense to sacrifice them. It's like the 6th army in Stalingrad, just a total waste of manpower that could have been used far more efficiently and again this doesn't even touch on the moral blackness of knowingly sacrificing soldiers or abandoning them.
If You think thats mad ,just google battle of Wizna The Battle of Wizna was fought between September 7 and September 10, 1939, between the forces of Poland and Germany during the initial stages of invasion of Poland. According to Polish historian Leszek Moczulski, between 350 and 720 Poles defended a fortified line for three days against more than 40,000 Germans.
My Grand father was one of the 155 Irishmen. He talks about it all the time and wears his army suit and badges all the time. He got buried alive during the whole ordeal and he had lost a lot of weight but thankfully he survived and he’s still alive today
Tell your grandfather from me that his superiors were idiots and that he is a real life modern Spartan. The Jadotville contingent will always be heroes in my eyes.
What do you expect? They’re Irish. Of course they’ll fight. Only Pat Quinlan didn’t want any of his men to die. If they had any rum or Guinness, they’d probably hold those Congolese for another 5 days even without ammo...
Rene: i've looking for an irish battle in the last 20 years, i could find none Quinland: i've looking for french victories in the last 20 years and i'm in the same situation
My personal respect for Maj. Quinlan and all the members of the A company of 35th Irish UN battalion ! May these honorable soldiers and their bravery and sacrifices never be forgotten!
The fact that these man weren't honored once they arrived makes me sad, but what is even worse is that 5 of the Soldiers committed suicide as a result of depression from that siege...
I wish I could have been there with a cameras (both video and picture) and lots of film. Return to United States and go on an information distribution tour. First amendment is great.
Over 30% of the British forces at Waterloo were Irish. They actually have a very long history of military excellence, just for other countries. South Africa had an entire regiment of Irish-descended soldiers in WW2, for example, in which my grandfather served.
It was Irishman that punched a hole in the German lines in the battle of the Somme. Gained the most ground, over 4,000 yards, as I recall in my history lessons.
@@parsoniareigns it was a book that I read solely regarding the Somme campaign. They made it right through the supply lines and we're eventually told to retreat as the British Army generals thought it was a trap. Thee is a memorial to the Irish division that fought with such distinction. It is in the shape of a Castle tower near Thiepval. I hope that helps, as I can't remember the author of the book.
According to the book the Irishman did not form up in ranks to march over nomansland as instructedby the generals, but instead ran across and caught the Germans before they had time to man their positions. This as indeed the hole that the British army wanted in the German lines to send the Cavalry through and wreek havoc. It was a golden opportunity that was sadly squandered.
Pretty standard for the UN. About as useless and incompetent as they come. It was really just the Irish fighting with some assistance from the Indians and Swedes.
Asking UN for more supplies and ammo as only very few bullets left, UN says 'no we can't give you more supplies and ammo but DO NOT SURRENDER!' Irish run out off ammo have to surrender then get treated like cowards by UN
He forgot to mention that the UN pulled the other UN forces from the base before the attack began, the irish soilders refused to leave their post and leave the town undefended.
Most of them were dead. There were a few at the Premiere of the film in Galway in uniform, some in wheelchairs, not many of them left. One of the men who served there, John Gorman, was the person who started the campaign to clear their names of the stain of cowardice. Unfortunately he had to wait until he retired from the army before he could do so as you are forbidden to take any action against the army while serving.
One of the most incredible but underrated last stand in history, a 155 defenders fighting a thousand attackers without having any casualties but still gives the enemy a big blow. P.S: the movie Siege of Jadotville is a great movie and one of my favorite war movie.
Imagine being outnumbered 25 to 1 and with the a fair amount of the enemy being highly trained and using weapons as good, if not better than what you've got. Not to mention the fact that they enemy has both artillery and air support and you've got no idea if help is even coming.
From a soldiers perspective, Major Quinlan should have been applauded. Dead soldiers during UN missions are always a nightmare for the HQ and the UN. By keeping his men alive, even though he surrendered, he avoided a lot of funerals. It is a shame that he has been called a coward, he was anything but cowardly.
Literally took the phrase "fight until the last bullet" and pulled it off with not one death. But called a coward by a bunch of expensive suited politicians who would've ran in the other direction the fastest before even the first bullet was fired.
I have been in Ireland as a Dutchman and in my time in Ireland, I met so many nice people a long time ago, it was 1979 and I never forget,. I was a child but I want to visit this country again before I die.
This is the most sad part. For decades they were called as cowards when they probably fought as hard as Spartan against the Persians. Certainly better than the 150 "heroic" bditish against the Zulus. Worst, their enemies are actually better equiped.
Quinlin was a true leader. Not only did he competently command his outnumbered soldiers, he knew when to surrender instead of throwing their lives away needlessly in a hopeless fight to the death. A very intelligent move, and one showing great consideration for the lives of his troops. Sorry to hear he was treated so pitifully for his efforts.
I just saw the movie and I'm so pissed off for that, like what gives them the right to call those men cowards, when the very organisation that are supposed to help them, just left them to die, Quinlan made the right move to surrender.
@@BenHopkins1000 The Irish government and top officers of the Irish Defence Forces are reviewing the situation and evidence and there is talk of awarding retrospect gallantry medals. A decision will be made in March 2021 after the findings of the panel.
@@williamjames7293 it's good on paper, worked better than the league, but when you have dipshits at the helm, everything stops working the way it should
The UN acted like assholes tbh, if you watched the movie the reinforcements came really late and the head of the operation was reluctant to even send in reinforcements.
En route to Jadotville Quinlan crossed a bridge into Katanga. He sent a telegram back to HQ asking should he take control of the bridge as it would be easy to defend with a token force and was the link between friendly and hostile territory. He was told no, to carry on to Jadotville. By the time he got there and occupied the compound they could see in the distance Katanganese jeeps and guns heading to the bridge to occupy it. This is why the UN were unable to reinforce his company as the gurkhas who tried to get past the bridge were beaten back with many casualties. Ridiculous lack of foresight by his superiors.
Muhammad Haiqal You can’t go off of this channel’s videos & the movie, but The UN was late and is always poorly equipped, yet they find the money to pay their dictators, world leaders and their top officials just because their greedy, They so have the permanent 5 security council members, Corrupt ones being China & Russia who joined as the Soviet Union and the 5 all had nukes when they joined and all were in the top 5 for illegal arms dealing to other militaries, (now their top 6 for that) the WHO is alps corrupt, when any organization puts China’s government on their human rights committee..... lol
As a retired soldier, it really angers me that these brave men were so disgracefully by their own country. They did their duty and fought to the best of their ability.
I had the pleasure to meet several of the men who fought in Jadotsville and even got my photograph taken with them! It was a real honor. Each one of them was the nicest, most friendly people you could meet. Really down to earth.
I had a cousin who fought in that battle, on the Irish side. It's so great nowadays that they are getting the recognition they deserve, but it is far too late. It was a disgrace how they were treated.
Irish: We ran out of water, food and ammunition and you couldn't even send a proper supplies to us!! UN: *That's not the problem, why you guys surrender?*
@@redasualt1413 the actual problem is the food. they can still fight even without ammunition(hand to hand combat, makeshift weapons etc) but one cannot fight if he is thirsty and starving
The UN did not have a problem with them Surrendering, it was their own Irish Military that had the problem with them Surrendering.. it was literally in the video you are responding about!!!
@@feelsreeeman7992 True but the senior UN diplomat on the scene was Irish, Conor Cruise O'Brien, an absolute scumbag who, under instructions from the UN Secretary General, threw the Irish troops under the bus. He later became a senior government figure in Ireland which undoubtedly contributed to keeping the whole affair quiet.
@@neweddard9358 The death of the ten Belgian peacekeepers who were killed in the events immediately preceding the Rwandan Genocide can hardly be blamed on the UN. While I definitely agree that they were ill-prepared for the conflict, that can be blamed on the Belgian government's reluctance to send an adequately sized force for the voluntary peacekeeping mission they were a part of. The response to the Genocide (or lack thereof) can be blamed on the UN and the international community as a whole though.
similar story of india too, during the Battle of Saragarhi a battle between 21 soldiers of the 36th Sikhs of the British Indian Army and 10,000 Afridi and Orakzai Pashtun tribesmen in 1897. they fended the enemy for houres , there is a movie "Kesari " please refer it for a detailed exlaination
similar story of india too, during the Battle of Saragarhi a battle between 21 soldiers of the 36th Sikhs of the British Indian Army and 10,000 Afridi and Orakzai Pashtun tribesmen in 1897. they fended the enemy for hours , there is a movie "Kesari " please refer it for a detailed explanation
it's because Irish history is taught through the eyes of Britain. Look at how the great Irish hunger is taught. For a start it is taught as a famine when it was not but rather a genocide by Britain on the Irish.
155 Irish Soldiers : “Yo i need help fighting these thousands of enemies” UN : “here, have some toxic water, fight to death.” Irish soldiers : *surrenders because there’s literally no support UN : “you.. imbecile.. cowards”
@@Slenderslayer351 I'ts pretty obvious the guy's being sarcastic. And yes, fighting until exhausting any and all reasonable options while being outnumbered over 25:1, and only taking 5 casualties, while dealing over 1300 to the enemy, is on its own a reason for the greatest compliments.
The truth ALWAYS comes out in the end. Those guys were a credit to Ireland and their resistance is a lesson in military tactics. We in Ireland owe everything to the Irish army, Óglaigh na hÉireann, for the enduring freedoms that we enjoy, every minute of every day. God bless our or armed forces and God bless Ireland. 🇮🇪
I just feel sad thinking what major quinlan had to go after the battle, having to live with the mark of the coward for the rest of his life, he really was a hero, seriously,the army command was and will always be filled with ignorant peoples who don't know a thing about wars.
While it is unfortunate that many people don't get the credit they deserve, most great leaders don't need the opinions of lessers to validate their accomplishments. What probably bothered him more is that his men weren't being treated like heroes.
that monument should have started with "in remembrance of the cowards who threw these brave heroes under the bus for their bravery and unwavering courage in the face of impossible odds"
@@messerschmittME-262 well big difference between trenches in the first world war and trenches 55 years later in a 5 day seige against a bunch of untrained soldiers.
I’m prior service infantry. And this film was amazing. It’s awesome what cover and concealment, and proper marksmanship can do in a gunfight. Conserving your ammunition and putting rounds on target effectively
Truth...the powers that be will happily send us into a meat grinder. Jadotville remains an Irish example of that .Unfortunately fir many British soldiers its a common occurrence .
Pat Aherne! Did the Irish Government then officially ask the British Government to intervene directly on their troops behalf? If so, what had happened?
I love how posthumously relieving him of all allegations is supposed to make up for 50 years of being called a coward lol I wonder what high command would have done in his position
Though it ofcourse does not make up for the 50 of him going unrecognized and shunned, there are a few other things attached to this, like getting the recognition for his actions and just the symbolism of it
exactly what i am thinking. what is the difference between recognizing them after they are all long dead and continuing to denounce their deeds? truly despicable. imagine dying in humiliation of 'surrendering for saving lives'
@@DerDoctor69 sure, but he didnt get the recognization himself and died in humiliation. the recognization only matters to those who are alive. try putting yourself in his shoes
me they attacked the Katangese government and people who elected a leader and help overthrow there leader. helping Lumumba _ape and _urder tens of thousands
they attacked the Katangese government and people who elected a leader and help overthrow there leader. helping Lumumba _ape and _urder tens of thousands so yeah amazing
@@johncarty2502 yea was shameful how they were left. We might fight amongst ourselves over what type of Irish we are but you harm one brother you harm both. Genuinely I have massive respect for u bud.
Isn’t that a quote from the Spartans? They were challenged by a neighboring country boasting that their archer were so good that they would block out the sun. The Spartans then said then we shall fight in the said.
So unfair No one suspected the brave Irish people to hold more than hours They killed a half thousand and held times more Without water food medical aid artillery or air support and ammo Shame The leader of 155 man was a better leader on himself while his headquaters just went silent And when they were abandoned They were accused of surrendering after they returned home after being capt and treated worst than anyone could imagine These man are real life mad lads They are incredible
@@jar6264 I do not think that is what he meant. The Gurkha were some of the most feared men in WWII during the Pacific Campaign. What he is saying is that if they were there,they may have actually gotten the job done. It's not matter of food,water or ammunition. But it is more about their fearce reputation and effectiveness,both of which they were known for. Would they have won? Maybe not. But they still would of likely done a better job than these Irish soldiers. If you look up "Gurkha" and go to the channel"the Front(th-cam.com/video/VG_gmcOVQwg/w-d-xo.html) goes into detail about them and some of the battles they were in and why they were so effective and feared!
As an Irish man respect to all the Irish that fought this siege, just watched the film again and I'm amazed that not one Irish soldier died, rest in peace to the heroes who have passed on 🙏
He was. He had done all he could as a soldier and as a leader before he surrendered. What can a person do when he already used up everything he could think of?
He had his men vote on it so that after the fact they all knew that they had done everything they could, that their spirit wasn't broken and they didn't give into fear, he did it so they knew it about themselves, and then being responsible for their lives he chose to try and get them home alive.
It's a peace keeping mission. If it was a war to defend Ireland, I'm sure his company would've bayoneted as a last resort, but since it's not there country, surrendering seems pretty reasonable.
I served with 2 of these soldiers in the early 80's & they never spoke about it & only one of the 2 is still alive & he did his first interview 2 years ago. He was only 19 during the battle, he told me that every man did his duty. There are some innacuaceries in this clip, there were no Lee Enfields on the Irish side & 3 Indian Gurkha's from the 1st Gurkha Rifles were killed trying to reach the Irish. When they were taken as POW's they were only given beer instead of water & some nearly dehydrated plus there was some mock executions. At the end of the battle the Irish had 8 WIA while the merks & natives had 1000 casualties including 300 KIA, that was down to the exception leadership of their CO Pat Quinlin.
Dankie/ Thank you Grogscol. THe UN didn't hold a very good record with the South Africans (Afrikaners) in Southwest Africa/ Nambia. The night before big voting. Most of the SADF ("Suid-Afrikaanse Weermag") was back in SA. Only small number of SADF and the numerical small SWADF was at the border between Southwest & Angola. Swapo troops crosses the border to take the country in force. The UN was told but did NOTHING! It was the SADF who had to safe the day. While I was in Ire (2000) the Irish I met had a difficulties with a white man in Africa. It is good that you have a record of that men how was there. TIA = THIS IS AFRICA .
I was just shy of my ninth birthday and remember my father's reaction to the end of the siege and headlines about the surrender . Already the media had started the smear . My Dad , " sure held out for five days , inflicted very heavy casualties , only a few wounded defenders . No resupply , no support , out of food ,water and ammo . " Now he is roaring with laughter . " every army wishes they had ' cowards ' like those soldiers .
@@ritagasper1958 I guess but the Irish want more of the hostility, we British really couldn't give a dam about Ireland anymore (I don't mean that in an offensive way)
Those veterans have guys walk up to them and say you still running fucking cowards weren't even on the battle field and they fought against horrible odds they had never seen combat and still only gave in when they had no choice
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I couldn't think of a better person to be put on guard duty and catch an enemy attack first then someone named Billy Ready...
Thankfully he wasn’t Billy unready.
I keep seeing you everywhere
Also the guy without a mustache
The legend himself
Billy was born ready.
Billy Ready will always be ready
These men deserved a unit commendation for their service without a single loss.
And yet, they were received as cowards. I think these men deserved much more respect.
They should have been feared by the Katangese, Like the koreans in the Vietnam war
@@weebant9977 Called cowards just because the people responsible for supplying them were incompetent ? That's a major injustice.
What’s that?
Katangese Gendarmerie: "Surrender! We have you surrounded!"
Pat Quinlan: "Good, now we can shoot in every direction."
Chad* Quinlan
*Leonidas liked that*
Aka target rich environment!
This quote actually came from Chesty Puller of the United States Marine Corps
"Good, now we can shoot in every direction" that's a quote from Marie Pierre Koening at the battle of Bir Hakeim in 1942.
Imagine fighting 5days, outnumberred, outgunned, out of supplies, ammo and water and when you come home they call you a coward...
Sounds like my alcoholism would worsen
Typical drunk irish men.
@@irmanifchannel2030 I think it's a little late for that, but I like your energy
I would likely train a communist rebel group in Antartica made up of Penguins and liberate my country.
I’d go back to Africa and start Metal Gear.
The major did what a leader should do. When there's no reason to continue the fight, he choose to keep his men alive.
Salute to the major.
Irish army dose not have Majors the equivalent rank is Commandant
@ Budi
yes
'We fight until there is no reason to fight any longer'
'But sire, then why do we fight at all?'
'I do not know private, I do not know'
Respect.
@@veronicadredd22 Good thing that wasn't the Irish army then. They served under the UN which has it's own rank structure.
"The fact that the unit was left without ammunition, food, and water, and that the command structure was the one that failed, was ignored." It always is. Always blame the pawns, never the King.
Clearly, the UN never heard of Murphy's Law...
and the fact that, according to the movie about the siege, Dr O'Brien was happy to "sacrifice a pawn" ie give up Jadotville which Company A was ordered to "hold at all costs", if the location is si crucial that it needs to be held, then reinforce it, if it a region that can be given up, then pull the troops out as soon as they situation is hopeless. I think O'Brien went to the Adolf Hitler school of military strategy.
@@kingofthejungle3833 Wow, that's a total strategic waste too. Why would you waste troops, especially if you can A) reinforce them and hold the position or B) pull them back to a more secure or easily held area where you can then reinforce them. There are so, so many options you could take rather than sacrificing men, and that strategy simply never does anyone any good. Like even if you remove the morality of it, it's still a terrible logistical and strategic move. You're just throwing away man power when there's potential to keep said manpower by properly reinforcing or redeploying them. If they fought this well with no help, imagine what they could have done with assistance, it simply makes no sense to sacrifice them. It's like the 6th army in Stalingrad, just a total waste of manpower that could have been used far more efficiently and again this doesn't even touch on the moral blackness of knowingly sacrificing soldiers or abandoning them.
God save the king my dude
@@adamg7984 Because they weren't their troops so they didn't care. The UN doesnt have troops nations have troops they loan to the UN
“You have your orders. Defend Jadotville.”
“With what, a firm tone?”
That’s a good quote.
@@mrmr_zoomie yea
Im pretty sure is a firm toll 😅😅 the accent makes it hard to tell
@@callummarshall4989 no he didn’t how would that make any sense at all? haha
@@callummarshall4989 nah, he said tone
“While almost all Irish soldiers were attending mass”
That’s the most Irish thing I’ve ever heard
I'll drink to that!
@@kratz57x You. I like you.
@@1337penguinman Bartender... another for my friend, on me.
@@kratz57x we’ve found an honorary Irish
4 tall pints of Guinness for ya fine lads
Soldiers : Fight bravely against overwhelming enemy
Generals : I'll pretend I didn't see that
yeah, fucking threw them under the bus..
@@xcd87 they did at least acknowledge their bravery back in 2016 which is bullshit if you ask me but it's better then nothing
Wars are won by soldiers and lost by bureaucrats and the soldiers take the blame and never get exonerated until all the bureaucrats involved are dead
@@joeltee9894 Thats a fucking sad reality. Wars are fighted for interests of the bureaucrats too
I think I see why Stalin purged his generals now...
Irish soldiers: *fights for over a week running out of supplies.
UN: here is some water gas, ok bye.
The UN is the same as the WHO. Absufuckingtively useless.
Chad Lawrence lol
@@Starcraftchad Even if your statement is true, both of them are at least doing better than the former League of Nations.
Who is this UN guy. The UN is just the nations that make it up.
Phantom forces OOF
Imagine being outnumbered 1-20 and fighting till starvation
*absolute mad lads*
And like always, it wasn't leaderships fault that everything went sideways.
You mean Irish.
If You think thats mad ,just google battle of Wizna
The Battle of Wizna was fought between September 7 and September 10, 1939, between the forces of Poland and Germany during the initial stages of invasion of Poland. According to Polish historian Leszek Moczulski, between 350 and 720 Poles defended a fortified line for three days against more than 40,000 Germans.
Sounds like we need to get Count Dankula talking about this
You have never heard about the battlenof trench have you
My Grand father was one of the 155 Irishmen. He talks about it all the time and wears his army suit and badges all the time. He got buried alive during the whole ordeal and he had lost a lot of weight but thankfully he survived and he’s still alive today
That’s incredible. I’m glad the world finally learned about what he did and gave him and his comrades the respect they deserve
Tell your grandfather from me that his superiors were idiots and that he is a real life modern Spartan. The Jadotville contingent will always be heroes in my eyes.
Wait isn’t he the one where in the movie they dig out a guy of the trench dirt after a mortar barrage ?
@@coldturkey5333 that’s literally based on him
@@kas_3126 baller
“I’m never going to logistically recover from this”
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Soldiers: We’re surrounded!
Pat Quinlan: Now we don’t need to aim!
“Sir we’re surrounded!”
“Good”
“Sir?”
“Because now we can fire in all directions!!!”
Shipmaster were outnumbered 3 to 1...
Good then it is a even fight
What do you expect? They’re Irish. Of course they’ll fight. Only Pat Quinlan didn’t want any of his men to die.
If they had any rum or Guinness, they’d probably hold those Congolese for another 5 days even without ammo...
Rene:”You do realize that your outnumbered by a factor of 20.” Quinlan:”I see a lot of dead men here. None of them are mine.”
Rene: you've never been in battle before
Quinlan: I wouldn't say that I've been married 10 years
Rene: i've looking for an irish battle in the last 20 years, i could find none
Quinland: i've looking for french victories in the last 20 years and i'm in the same situation
Quinlan: no French man likes german tacticians. It only took 2 week for them to occupy your entire country.
Ye u right
Jamie Dornan killed it in this film
My personal respect for Maj. Quinlan and all the members of the A company of 35th Irish UN battalion ! May these honorable soldiers and their bravery and sacrifices never be forgotten!
@Max Gremer: Pat Quinlan was a Commandant.
The treatment of these brave Irish soldiers by their own government is one of the darkest days in Ireland history
Idiot
@Mark Temperley no,they didnt
@@tddd05 in world war 2 most of ireland was pro germany
The sentiment was more anti England than pro Germany. But loads of Irish fought for England in ww2 as throughout history.
@Mark Temperley
Although I hate seeing this, yes the Irish did support them, for the soul reason of them being against the British.
"A man can survive 3 weeks without food ..3 days without water...but he cannot survive 3 minutes without gunpowder." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Pat Quinlan: who needs bullets when u have casings
A real man does not need gunpowder to kill his enemy.
@@francois9747 god made men, samuel colt made them equal.
@@francois9747 he certainly does when his enemy has more gunpowder than he does
What if I give the man a Bayonet? then how long?
The fact that these man weren't honored once they arrived makes me sad, but what is even worse is that 5 of the Soldiers committed suicide as a result of depression from that siege...
Seriously 5? Wtf that's sad...
I wish I could have been there with a cameras (both video and picture) and lots of film. Return to United States and go on an information distribution tour. First amendment is great.
😳😭😪😔
@Ra ven can you find a source for that please? I'm very sure that's not true.
They were actually honored in the 90s
Over 30% of the British forces at Waterloo were Irish. They actually have a very long history of military excellence, just for other countries. South Africa had an entire regiment of Irish-descended soldiers in WW2, for example, in which my grandfather served.
The Irish fought in every war on every side 😂
It was Irishman that punched a hole in the German lines in the battle of the Somme. Gained the most ground, over 4,000 yards, as I recall in my history lessons.
@@windleshamwanderer3728 really that's interesting. Any source?
@@parsoniareigns it was a book that I read solely regarding the Somme campaign. They made it right through the supply lines and we're eventually told to retreat as the British Army generals thought it was a trap.
Thee is a memorial to the Irish division that fought with such distinction. It is in the shape of a Castle tower near Thiepval. I hope that helps, as I can't remember the author of the book.
According to the book the Irishman did not form up in ranks to march over nomansland as instructedby the generals, but instead ran across and caught the Germans before they had time to man their positions. This as indeed the hole that the British army wanted in the German lines to send the Cavalry through and wreek havoc.
It was a golden opportunity that was sadly squandered.
UN: Doesn’t answer calls for help
Irish forces: Surrender
UN: *wHy DiD yOu sUrReNdEr*
Pretty standard for the UN. About as useless and incompetent as they come. It was really just the Irish fighting with some assistance from the Indians and Swedes.
@@howardbaxter2514 the indian and swedish reinforcements didnt even manage to arrive
@@EricWulfe what matters is they tried to get there but got ambushed
Asking UN for more supplies and ammo as only very few bullets left,
UN says 'no we can't give you more supplies and ammo but DO NOT SURRENDER!'
Irish run out off ammo have to surrender then get treated like cowards by UN
He forgot to mention that the UN pulled the other UN forces from the base before the attack began, the irish soilders refused to leave their post and leave the town undefended.
Sad thing was that many of the soldiers who had fought, including Quinlin, had passed by the time they had been recognised for their bravery
And it was lucky they all live through the siege with only 5 wounded
The high command failed badly
Never trust the U.N.
A multinational political body should never be trusted with the command of troops in any scenario
Most of them were dead. There were a few at the Premiere of the film in Galway in uniform, some in wheelchairs, not many of them left. One of the men who served there, John Gorman, was the person who started the campaign to clear their names of the stain of cowardice. Unfortunately he had to wait until he retired from the army before he could do so as you are forbidden to take any action against the army while serving.
yeah that's the point in waiting so long
@King Eazy actually the LoN never had a standing army, hence why the Corfu and Abyssinian crises failed.
There was a movie about this on Netflix.
Yeah
Yeah i have seen that movie.
Which the enemy cheated by using medic
great movie
Private Mcguffin is it still on Netflix? And if so, what’s the name?
Edit: guys, I know what movie it is. Stop replying to me
It's a shame that the UN left 155 Blue helmets with no significant support for days, forcing them to surrender. Someone should have paid for this.
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UN: **Sends only one helicopter of supplies with water that isn’t even safe to drink**
Also UN: Why would they surrender?
Should've sent whiskey instead.
@@deussalt8108 At least then they wouldn't have been able to tell the difference.
@@deussalt8108 no, Vodka is BETTER!
A Company: Gets condemned and harassed for surrendering
France: First time?
Ukraine and Poland: Amateurs
@@liamweaver2944 Eh! Tell that to Poland or Ukraine
One of the most incredible but underrated last stand in history, a 155 defenders fighting a thousand attackers without having any casualties but still gives the enemy a big blow.
P.S: the movie Siege of Jadotville is a great movie and one of my favorite war movie.
The Irish Alamo.
They had 5 casualties, but 0 fatalities.
Imagine being outnumbered 25 to 1 and with the a fair amount of the enemy being highly trained and using weapons as good, if not better than what you've got. Not to mention the fact that they enemy has both artillery and air support and you've got no idea if help is even coming.
ratagris21 or Irish rorks drift
Try watch karajaki very good movie based on British paras trapped in a mind field in Afghan and is exactly as the real story
From a soldiers perspective, Major Quinlan should have been applauded. Dead soldiers during UN missions are always a nightmare for the HQ and the UN. By keeping his men alive, even though he surrendered, he avoided a lot of funerals. It is a shame that he has been called a coward, he was anything but cowardly.
UN soldiers are often put in impossible situations, the Dutch UN peacekeepers in Bosnia another example.
@@catinthehat906 And even though it‘s tough, they are a light shining in darkness for people in need.
He did the right think. Kept his men alive. All that matters. His ego didn’t get in the way.
Commadant not Major
Literally took the phrase "fight until the last bullet" and pulled it off with not one death. But called a coward by a bunch of expensive suited politicians who would've ran in the other direction the fastest before even the first bullet was fired.
I have been in Ireland as a Dutchman and in my time in Ireland, I met so many nice people a long time ago, it was 1979 and I never forget,. I was a child but I want to visit this country again before I die.
Eric,we're you in Lebanon in 1979,Total,sultaniyah,tibnin,bayt ya hun,.
Dutch are always very welcome in Ireland
"4000 Katangese troops charges"
Objective : Survive.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 Katanaganese chads more like
Lol
Halo Reach
@@SonOfTheDawn515 The Chad sacrifice
@@dabtican4953 no lol
It’s a disgrace how the men fought with no supplies but when the get home they get treated like cowards.the UN is corrupt(I’m Irish)
Think how it must be for me every time I drive on the Queensboro Bridge and I see the disgusting UN building to my left.
@ENGinuity nobody said that it's just the un you trog, context matters nerdlord.
The UN is a Bureaucratic waste.
The Irish and Scots would have ruled the world.
If it was not more fun to fight with family.......
@ENGinuity ok ENGinuity.
For what they went through then get treated like cowards and then get awarded in 2005 that is to late
They were called “The Dogs of Jadotville” and were called cowards. The reality was that they distinguished themselves with honour and valor.
Some of the finest fighting I’ve heard of.
This is the most sad part. For decades they were called as cowards when they probably fought as hard as Spartan against the Persians. Certainly better than the 150 "heroic" bditish against the Zulus. Worst, their enemies are actually better equiped.
@@majorianus8055 The battle of Rorke´s Drift
Now they should be called the fighting dogs of jadotville
Now they should be called the fighting dogs of jadotville
They actually made a pretty good movie about this. I stumbled upon it almost by chance and I'm glad I've learnt about this incredible story of bravery
My grandfather was part of this peace keeping mission.
Christopher Moore my dads best friend took part in it aswell
They have my respect
Christopher Moore what does he think of the movie? Close enough?
Your grandfather was a real badass, I love the movie
You guys in the comments are kinda sketchy why do 3 of their relatives watch this episode??
Quinlin was a true leader. Not only did he competently command his outnumbered soldiers, he knew when to surrender instead of throwing their lives away needlessly in a hopeless fight to the death. A very intelligent move, and one showing great consideration for the lives of his troops. Sorry to hear he was treated so pitifully for his efforts.
I just saw the movie and I'm so pissed off for that, like what gives them the right to call those men cowards, when the very organisation that are supposed to help them, just left them to die, Quinlan made the right move to surrender.
If you wanna get more angry read how the captain of the uss Indianapolis was treated after his ship was sunk by a Japanese submarine
Agreed hard to find a man like him
Why else is Thermopylae remembered and Jadotville, until recently, was forgotten?
@@BenHopkins1000 The Irish government and top officers of the Irish Defence Forces are reviewing the situation and evidence and there is talk of awarding retrospect gallantry medals. A decision will be made in March 2021 after the findings of the panel.
Irish Soldier: "I think we killed them all sir."
Commanding Officer: "That was just the 1st wave."
Is that a reference?
The... what
I love this video it gives the recognition they deserve, my grandfather is William ready the man who fired the warning shot
Irish: fights bravely but surrenders*
UN: *our men are running from the battlefield, shameful display!*
*SHAMEFUR DISPRAY !*
*WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE!!!*
@@Irmarinen hahahaha I thought the same thing
Close defeat
Ha. Total war shenanigans
General: "Did we capture the 155 soldiers?"
Soldier: "Yep, it took 4000 troops though."
General: *"What?"*
Soldier: *"What?"*
Lol
*"W H A T?"*
Lol
Totally worth it
It took over 9000 Persian casualties before the 300 Spartans were defeated.
Irish soldiers: _fighting a ferocious enemy with little men_
UN: *here's some water in some petrol cans good luck lol*
Irish soldier: _After fighting to the last bullet, we simply had to surrender.
UN: *But... but... we gave you water in petrol cans, you cowards...*
UselessNations(UN) :Being useless since the day it was born
@@williamjames7293 it's good on paper, worked better than the league, but when you have dipshits at the helm, everything stops working the way it should
@@williamjames7293 but but but.... they have a meditation room at the UN headquarters!!
Top of the morning to ya boys I heard you like whiskey I don’t have that but here’s some water in petrol barrels
Unbelievable how the command covered it up and was never held accountable
I heard it said that Connor cruise obrien an Irish diplomat with the un did not come out of this scandal
Too good
There’s a movie on Netflix on this called “The Siege of Jadotville”
It's a great movie
Thanks for letting me know
@@galbert117 It really is. They did a good job with it. I've seen it twice and I'm sure I'll watch it again.
oh yeah that movie, it was great
It was a good movie
UN: *doesnt intervene*
Pat: They would've got in our way anyway!
The UN acted like assholes tbh, if you watched the movie the reinforcements came really late and the head of the operation was reluctant to even send in reinforcements.
Ofcourse. The UN is a big fuckiing joke
En route to Jadotville Quinlan crossed a bridge into Katanga. He sent a telegram back to HQ asking should he take control of the bridge as it would be easy to defend with a token force and was the link between friendly and hostile territory. He was told no, to carry on to Jadotville. By the time he got there and occupied the compound they could see in the distance Katanganese jeeps and guns heading to the bridge to occupy it. This is why the UN were unable to reinforce his company as the gurkhas who tried to get past the bridge were beaten back with many casualties. Ridiculous lack of foresight by his superiors.
Muhammad Haiqal You can’t go off of this channel’s videos & the movie, but The UN was late and is always poorly equipped, yet they find the money to pay their dictators, world leaders and their top officials just because their greedy, They so have the permanent 5 security council members, Corrupt ones being China & Russia who joined as the Soviet Union and the 5 all had nukes when they joined and all were in the top 5 for illegal arms dealing to other militaries, (now their top 6 for that) the WHO is alps corrupt, when any organization puts China’s government on their human rights committee..... lol
@@ranica47 Thanks for the info.
"Hey lets carry water in petrol barrels" Best idea
Government incompetence at it's finest
"Petrol Barrel is as good as water containers, *for sure* "
Jerry cans yeeeeet
Guys just try drinking water from petrol cans its like a insault to these brave irish soldiers
Not stonks
As a retired soldier, it really angers me that these brave men were so disgracefully by their own country. They did their duty and fought to the best of their ability.
I had the pleasure to meet several of the men who fought in Jadotsville and even got my photograph taken with them! It was a real honor. Each one of them was the nicest, most friendly people you could meet. Really down to earth.
I had a cousin who fought in that battle, on the Irish side.
It's so great nowadays that they are getting the recognition they deserve, but it is far too late.
It was a disgrace how they were treated.
Cousin? How old are you lol
@@modestas2518 must be more than 70s
Irish: We ran out of water, food and ammunition and you couldn't even send a proper supplies to us!!
UN: *That's not the problem, why you guys surrender?*
Nope the more bigger problem is that they were out of amunation to
@@redasualt1413 the actual problem is the food. they can still fight even without ammunition(hand to hand combat, makeshift weapons etc) but one cannot fight if he is thirsty and starving
Hence why we should just remove the $$$$ from the UN and establish a new organization.
The UN did not have a problem with them Surrendering, it was their own Irish Military that had the problem with them Surrendering.. it was literally in the video you are responding about!!!
The UK should have provided air support and military assistance.
As a Korean-American with am Irish father, I say that these men should be honored as heroes.
How are you Korean American if you’re 50% Irish?
@@LeMerch I was adopted. lol
"only 5 wounded soldiers"
Damn incredible
It's the luck of the Irish
Luck had little to do with it
r/wooooosh
If only it were more :( Jk kinda, they probs thought they were doing the right thing but didn't understand.
neelskempable how’s that a whoooosh
My Grandad was one of those brave men at Jadotville 💚🇮🇪
Damn
Bless him. He was a brave soldier.
He did good.
*bush starts making noise
@@vanillavilla. FAL : *Shooting Sounds*
So proud of these lads it’s a shame the Irish government at the time was completely spineless and swept them under the rug
Dont forget the UN
Completely useless and full of idiots
@@feelsreeeman7992 True but the senior UN diplomat on the scene was Irish, Conor Cruise O'Brien, an absolute scumbag who, under instructions from the UN Secretary General, threw the Irish troops under the bus. He later became a senior government figure in Ireland which undoubtedly contributed to keeping the whole affair quiet.
When hasn't the Irish government been spineless and a enemy of their own people?
FeelsREEEMan , yes , those Belgian peacekeepers in Rwanda were massacred because of them.
@@neweddard9358 The death of the ten Belgian peacekeepers who were killed in the events immediately preceding the Rwandan Genocide can hardly be blamed on the UN. While I definitely agree that they were ill-prepared for the conflict, that can be blamed on the Belgian government's reluctance to send an adequately sized force for the voluntary peacekeeping mission they were a part of. The response to the Genocide (or lack thereof) can be blamed on the UN and the international community as a whole though.
Once there was a battle during the Korean War with 71 South Korean student soldiers vs 1000 North Korean soldiers, South Korea won that battle.
Nice... maybe you should come join the irish
similar story of india too, during the Battle of Saragarhi a battle between 21 soldiers of the 36th Sikhs of the British Indian Army and 10,000 Afridi and Orakzai Pashtun tribesmen in 1897. they fended the enemy for houres , there is a movie "Kesari " please refer it for a detailed exlaination
similar story of india too, during the Battle of Saragarhi a battle between 21 soldiers of the 36th Sikhs of the British Indian Army and 10,000 Afridi and Orakzai Pashtun tribesmen in 1897. they fended the enemy for hours , there is a movie "Kesari " please refer it for a detailed explanation
Imagine if they had all the ammo, food and water they needed, maybe even a bit of air support, they might have stopped this assault entirely.
UN: Here is some gasoline water and some kisses BYE
Maybe the entire army seeing how suck those 4000 mens are
They ridiculed them publicly. But then give them credit much later. Late fix...
They'd have conquered the Katanese and the Congo would've asked to become part of Ireland in recognition of how hardcore they were.
maybe they would have launched a counter attack and maybe conquer Katanga :0
I’m Irish and in Irish school we never learned anything about this in history.
@Mr Irish disgrace* but yeah, there's many points in history which aren't taught sadly
@@chicagotypewriter2094 Relax, it’s just a typo, don’t need to put people down
But we learn about other countries wars weird
it's because Irish history is taught through the eyes of Britain. Look at how the great Irish hunger is taught. For a start it is taught as a famine when it was not but rather a genocide by Britain on the Irish.
@@thelklad7940 that’s interesting, I didn’t know it was taught through their perspective
155 Irish Soldiers : “Yo i need help fighting these thousands of enemies”
UN : “here, have some toxic water, fight to death.”
Irish soldiers : *surrenders because there’s literally no support
UN : “you.. imbecile.. cowards”
Considering how well they fought and surrendered only when they ran out of supplies doesn't make them cowards
@@Slenderslayer351 I'ts pretty obvious the guy's being sarcastic. And yes, fighting until exhausting any and all reasonable options while being outnumbered over 25:1, and only taking 5 casualties, while dealing over 1300 to the enemy, is on its own a reason for the greatest compliments.
"UN : “you.. imbecile.. cowards" -- well, no. That was the Irish government, not the UN.
Mmmm, YUMMY PETROL FLAVORED WATER
@@NahuCommNS i don't really know anything bout how the military works or anything is an injured soldier considered a casualty?
The truth ALWAYS comes out in the end. Those guys were a credit to Ireland and their resistance is a lesson in military tactics. We in Ireland owe everything to the Irish army, Óglaigh na hÉireann, for the enduring freedoms that we enjoy, every minute of every day. God bless our or armed forces and God bless Ireland. 🇮🇪
**The only good netflix adaptation**
6 days is great too
Whats it called
@@andresperez7582 the siege of jadotville
@@andresperez7582 sedge of jaddovile sorry for the horrible spelling
@@johndustoncpa5302 So is Kajaki.
I just feel sad thinking what major quinlan had to go after the battle, having to live with the mark of the coward for the rest of his life, he really was a hero, seriously,the army command was and will always be filled with ignorant peoples who don't know a thing about wars.
Agreed 🇮🇪🍀 thank you for the support
Commandant was his rank
While it is unfortunate that many people don't get the credit they deserve, most great leaders don't need the opinions of lessers to validate their accomplishments. What probably bothered him more is that his men weren't being treated like heroes.
that monument should have started with "in remembrance of the cowards who threw these brave heroes under the bus for their bravery and unwavering courage in the face of impossible odds"
God Bless Ireland and the irish, one of the greatest group of people on the planet
Not the politicians though, thieving corrupt bastards. From giving themselves raises, to giving cuckoo funds tax breaks to buy all the houses.
Not a single Irish Peacekeeper die in the siege, thank god for their survival.
They had better trench tactics than the entirety of the allies in 1914.
Have a book on this... Should be in school curriculum.
@@messerschmittME-262 well big difference between trenches in the first world war and trenches 55 years later in a 5 day seige against a bunch of untrained soldiers.
in video say 100 troops die
Instead they fought tooth and nail to be thrown under the buss until long after their deaths, long after any praise would fall on ears 6 feet down.
"They're everywhere!" "THEN SHOOT EVERYWHERE!"
If only they had a thor by their side
The guy named everywhere: Chuckle* i'm in danger
@@muhammadaryamaulana8105 this joke radiates the same energy as that "fire at will" joke
Amadeus i know this is referenced to something but I can’t remember what it was ... i think it was in a movie
Is it weird that i read this with arnold schwarzenegger voice?
Katangese: we have 3500 more Troops this should be easy.
Irish: hold my Guinness
Try watch filipino soldier in korean war 4,000 vs 30,000
@@mitsukiwatanuki portuguese in Cochin (1504) 130 vs 70.000.
I’m prior service infantry. And this film was amazing. It’s awesome what cover and concealment, and proper marksmanship can do in a gunfight. Conserving your ammunition and putting rounds on target effectively
Mercenaries: we out number you 20-1
Commandant Quinnlan: then it is an even fight
Thanks for the reference.👍
Smart reference
All soldiers fire at will. Burn their mongrel hides!
All men fire a will, burn their high morale
The Prophet of Truth later met his demise on the Ark
I'm an Englishman, can't help but respect soldiers like these, unfortunately, the powers at be never care about the underdog.
🇮🇪🤝🇬🇧
@@Yuppa.69 💙
@Teresa Downes Where in Dublin?
Truth...the powers that be will happily send us into a meat grinder. Jadotville remains an Irish example of that .Unfortunately fir many British soldiers its a common occurrence .
@@ch1gga22 the English media doesn't belong to me fella
The "siege of Jadotville" movie is the first movie i ever watched on Netflix.
Good movie
@Your Dad how is it false??
Chào bạn ! Mình cũng đã xem "Cuộc vây hãm ở Jadotville".
Did you chill?
Love that movie
My respects to the Irish Army 🇮🇪🇮🇪💪💪... Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷
The Falklands should be yours🇮🇪🤝🇦🇷
Thank you brother.
@@ryaner_78667 why tho
You'll get the falklands back eventually... and now that the british left the eu.. us irish wouldent mind helping
@@hotsaucejosh8982 they were originally argentina.. but after dome stuff ended up british.. so eh
The British press reported that Irish troops were "overrun" at Katanga.
Thanks for your usual support brits.
Well they were overrun from a certain point of view
@@lukesalvidge5451 a British point of view.
@@lukesalvidge5451 A certain point of view?
Pat Aherne! Did the Irish Government then officially ask the British Government to intervene directly on their troops behalf? If so, what had happened?
@@trevorfuller8980 the Irish troops would have been executed as prisoners is what would have happened.
My grandfather was there. We have his medal finally up on the wall.
Your granddad bloody deserved it alright. Absolute respect for those brave bastards.
He deserves it. He's got grit.
I'm intrigued. Could I hear more of his story?
@@ominousspecter9623 yea I want to hear that too
@@guntugakgun1924 maybe I can look him up via this guy's name
I love how posthumously relieving him of all allegations is supposed to make up for 50 years of being called a coward lol I wonder what high command would have done in his position
OldMan Cpt considering most of the brass were veterans of the Irish Civil War, murder a load of civilians and POWs then change the name of the army.
Though it ofcourse does not make up for the 50 of him going unrecognized and shunned, there are a few other things attached to this, like getting the recognition for his actions and just the symbolism of it
exactly what i am thinking. what is the difference between recognizing them after they are all long dead and continuing to denounce their deeds? truly despicable. imagine dying in humiliation of 'surrendering for saving lives'
@@DerDoctor69 sure, but he didnt get the recognization himself and died in humiliation. the recognization only matters to those who are alive. try putting yourself in his shoes
So what is the real reason behind the government's initial refusal of acknowledgement?
Coming home to your family is more important then living or dying to most people, no one can blame their choices that day.
Brave men who fought harder than anyone who’d ever criticize them.
me they attacked the Katangese government and people who elected a leader and help overthrow there leader. helping Lumumba _ape and _urder tens of thousands
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Netflix has “The Siege of Jadotville” and it’s amazing! Ireland really betrayed and tossed their own men aside after all they went through.
Actually it was the UN that betrayed them.
@@republicraider8336 Our own government fucked them over as well. Treated them with contempt.
it was the UN not the Irish government
they attacked the Katangese government and people who elected a leader and help overthrow there leader. helping Lumumba _ape and _urder tens of thousands
so yeah amazing
@@lawsonbrady2586 no ,they attacked the Irish and they were sorry for it.
I'll be back when Sabaton makes a song about this
Im listen to 40:1 while reading the comments XD
They have already made one
Check "light in the black"
@@kurtkenehan8017 that fits so well
Indeed my dear friend...
@@DC-zh7re it needs it's own song though
Respect brothers - from a Northern Irish Prod. UN seem to have abandoned these brave men.
Respect from Dublin :)
@@mely5388 lol there Is more that unites than divides us.
Respect Brother from a retired Irish Soldier who knew a lot of these brave men
@@johncarty2502 yea was shameful how they were left. We might fight amongst ourselves over what type of Irish we are but you harm one brother you harm both. Genuinely I have massive respect for u bud.
Please see the ENTIRE clip before typing falsehood. "Abandoning" at 7:55.
As an Irish it is nice that Ireland is mentioned soo much from a big youtuber
ik they are always in the shadow
ye my great grandfather was a soldier in the war
@@RussiaFeyer irish civil war?
Katangese troops: we outnumber them 20-1 this should be easy
Irish troops: “loads vickers” HA HA HA
"Cracks open a can of Guinness"
Hahaha vickers go braaaaaaaa
@@sernwuub4014 and they kill people! 😂
“CRY SOME MORE!”
You: Meme
Me: Lol
Netflix has a mini tv series about this probably the best war/action movie I’ve watched on a while!
Katangese: our plane will blot out the sun!
Irish: then we'll fight in the shade.
Blot
Boot leg 300
Isn’t that a quote from the Spartans? They were challenged by a neighboring country boasting that their archer were so good that they would block out the sun. The Spartans then said then we shall fight in the said.
Steel Comrade you got that from 300 and changed what they said
@@terancemccall7769 yes I did
So unfair
No one suspected the brave Irish people to hold more than hours
They killed a half thousand and held times more
Without water food medical aid artillery or air support and ammo
Shame
The leader of 155 man was a better leader on himself while his headquaters just went silent
And when they were abandoned
They were accused of surrendering after they returned home after being capt and treated worst than anyone could imagine
These man are real life mad lads
They are incredible
MBT revolution suggest Count Dankula to do a mad lads video about them
@Ginger Nutz what do you mean by blue boy?
"We ran out of food, water, and ammunition, we had to surrender"
"Cowards"
unclejackz if only gurkhas were there instead of irosh soldier they would have surely win over katangese
@@SakuraChan-hr4xt Sorry to break it to you, but Gurkhas still need food and water to survive.
@@SakuraChan-hr4xt
Gee the gurkhas must not need any food and munitions at all
@@jar6264 I do not think that is what he meant. The Gurkha were some of the most feared men in WWII during the Pacific Campaign. What he is saying is that if they were there,they may have actually gotten the job done. It's not matter of food,water or ammunition. But it is more about their fearce reputation and effectiveness,both of which they were known for. Would they have won? Maybe not. But they still would of likely done a better job than these Irish soldiers. If you look up "Gurkha" and go to the channel"the Front(th-cam.com/video/VG_gmcOVQwg/w-d-xo.html) goes into detail about them and some of the battles they were in and why they were so effective and feared!
@@dominiquebugaj5173 There is no situation possible for anybody to win this. Without food, water and ammunition you're useless as a military unit.
As an Irish man respect to all the Irish that fought this siege, just watched the film again and I'm amazed that not one Irish soldier died, rest in peace to the heroes who have passed on 🙏
He's brave, and sometimes surrendering the is the bravest act a man can do. It isnt easy, but he just want to save his people. That's bravery.
He was. He had done all he could as a soldier and as a leader before he surrendered. What can a person do when he already used up everything he could think of?
He had his men vote on it so that after the fact they all knew that they had done everything they could, that their spirit wasn't broken and they didn't give into fear, he did it so they knew it about themselves, and then being responsible for their lives he chose to try and get them home alive.
Beats the crap out of suicide.
Desecration is sometimes better than valor.
It's a peace keeping mission. If it was a war to defend Ireland, I'm sure his company would've bayoneted as a last resort, but since it's not there country, surrendering seems pretty reasonable.
Brave men treated disgracefully by the Irish Government until years later when they issued a full apology. Brave men !
I heard Ireland were this close to sending Roy Keane into the fight, luckily for the rebels he was withdrawn at the last minute
He would have arrived and gone home anyway
@@Maconnaith hahahbaa
1:14. Skip the ad. You’re welcome
thanks
I just got this on my Netflix recommendations!!!
Great movie I highly recommend it
Jaydeep Sutar I been watching that movie a long time ago
What's the title of the movie?
@@carlossaldana8791 the same as this video.
I served with 2 of these soldiers in the early 80's & they never spoke about it & only one of the 2 is still alive & he did his first interview 2 years ago. He was only 19 during the battle, he told me that every man did his duty. There are some innacuaceries in this clip, there were no Lee Enfields on the Irish side & 3 Indian Gurkha's from the 1st Gurkha Rifles were killed trying to reach the Irish. When they were taken as POW's they were only given beer instead of water & some nearly dehydrated plus there was some mock executions. At the end of the battle the Irish had 8 WIA while the merks & natives had 1000 casualties including 300 KIA, that was down to the exception leadership of their CO Pat Quinlin.
Sure you did
Only Irish troops would be given fucking beer in a POW camp
Dankie/ Thank you Grogscol. THe UN didn't hold a very good record with the South Africans (Afrikaners) in Southwest Africa/ Nambia. The night before big voting. Most of the SADF ("Suid-Afrikaanse Weermag") was back in SA. Only small number of SADF and the numerical small SWADF was at the border between Southwest & Angola. Swapo troops crosses the border to take the country in force. The UN was told but did NOTHING! It was the SADF who had to safe the day. While I was in Ire (2000) the Irish I met had a difficulties with a white man in Africa. It is good that you have a record of that men how was there. TIA = THIS IS AFRICA .
No you died lier
@@frisbe9279 whats that supposeed to mean?
As a Irishman my self I'm proud of are soilders. There a movie on Netflix documenting the sige
such an eye opening movie
Irish soldiers seem to be used to fighting against massively overwhelming numbers
Our*
im sorry i had too.
would love to watch it, what is it called?
I was just shy of my ninth birthday and remember my father's reaction to the end of the siege and headlines about the surrender . Already the media had started the smear . My Dad , " sure held out for five days , inflicted very heavy casualties , only a few wounded defenders . No resupply , no support , out of food ,water and ammo . " Now he is roaring with laughter . " every army wishes they had ' cowards ' like those soldiers .
Finally! Some Irish history/ Congolese history! Funny how people said “Ireland is lucky” when their history was everything but.
To true
Top ireland , that they got their Independence, but tbh they have been lucky (obv not in the Potato famine)
Make sure to watch the movie of the same title on Netflix, its very good.
Britain and Ireland is that time where the neighbors want to kill each other
@@ritagasper1958 I guess but the Irish want more of the hostility, we British really couldn't give a dam about Ireland anymore (I don't mean that in an offensive way)
"Their sacrifices are remembered with pride" when they only honoured them 50 years later
Irish Bloke: Sir, they outnumber us 20 to 1
Quinlan: Then it is an even fight
Colin .K halo reference
Beat me to it fair play mate 😂👏🏻
This is why I'm proud of my irish lads
Glad I’m not the only one who remembered this.
Not even. Only 20 to 1?. They don't stand a chance.
I watched the movie just last night, I cried, cried like a baby that these brave men did and how they were treated, God bless them
The survivors were finally given military honours in 2017.
This should be made into a Sabaton song.
Dude yes
Totes
Aye
True
Dude sabaton is gay
Troops; fight against unfavorable odds, and surrenders when it’s clear that they would be killed if they didn’t
Everyone else; lmao a bunch of cowards
Exactly, its fucking stupid.
Those veterans have guys walk up to them and say you still running fucking cowards weren't even on the battle field and they fought against horrible odds they had never seen combat and still only gave in when they had no choice
@@theirishpsychowolf7617 Those who have never carried a musket, will never appreciate the company's resistance, suicide is not expected.
Duh. They were boomers and in the IRA.
Dougall : "I think Father Jack has Agrophobia?"
Father Ted : "Father Jack scared of a fight? NEVER! "
imagine their face when they realised they had no casualties
"it was an honorable fight, i will let you bury your dead..."
"we dont have any..."