Just finished 06 marquis. Easy job. Mine had plenty of oil but the bearing failed anyway and took the shaft with it. Glitter removal was easy with the proper break cleaner spray. Don't use acetone based carb cleaners. They don't cut good enough and are violent on your skin and eyes.
11:07 finally someone smart enough that realizes you can pull the seal by pulling the bearing with it, I've seen guys beat on the seals for 2 hours with a long screwdriver trying to pry them out when you can just pull the seal out with the bearing all in one...
Ive done that job a few times. I had to replace the right rear axle on my 02 F150 that has the 8.8. Luckily the pinion seal was okay on that one. On a 2005 lincoln town car signature I purchased last month, the forst thing I did was jack each rear axle tube up and checked for up and down play and in and out play and both sides checked out, but, it had a pinion seal leak. I ordered the pinion seal and flange off of Ebay, but before it arrived I noticed the pinion seal wasnt pushed in all the way and was leaking oil from between the metal outer part of the seal, so I put RV all around that metal part of the seal then used a large screw driver to push it in. Then filled the differential back up and noticed the leak stopped. The previous owner had the transmission rebuilt on that car and I assume they changed the pinion seal but never hammered it in maybe because they forgot. Heres what usually wears out these axles ends on these rear ends though, it because at the factory they only half fill these and the axle tubes run dry as a result. So for new car owners, the first time you have an oil change have that damn differential filled
the bearing go bad because of the housing the bearing doesn't get enough lube oil only when u turn corner, if you put the new bearing in feel on the inside of the bearing the ridge of the bearing housing sit to high oil don't soak the bearing put a little more fluid in it that is what i found with these
I don’t keep track of what tools I use, usually whatever I need. What I used to clean out the axle tubes was a broomstick with a large flat washer screwed to the end, I scraped out the large pieces and metal putty then started swabbing it with that broomstick with a paper towel soaked in brake clean. It took a while before I was satisfied it was clean.
Ran into the exact same problem on my grand marquis. Took it to the shop after I had no luck backing out the broken pin bolt. They had to drill it out. I hope i never have the problem again.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I'm getting ready to pop the diff cover off again because I'm having a pulsating kinda grinding noise at around 50mph. I suspect that it could be the bearings on the other axle. I'm not sure exactly what it is yet though.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I didn't think about that, thanks. I have never changed those but I will now. I know my pinion seal has a tiny leak in it, but I check my diff oil every week. I've checked for play in the pinion, axles and driveshaft. None of them have any play at all.
I’ve got an 02. 119k miles . Bought it last fall with 93k. I did change the diff fluid just because when I checked it I couldn’t feel any oil with my finger through the fill port. Oil that came out was relatively clean. Anyway …. Both my rear wheels have some axial thrust to them . Not up and down only axial movement. No leaks . None , not at the end of the axles , not a pinion seal, not a diff cover. I’m wondering if my bearings are going out …. Or if some axial thrust is normal . It doesn’t make any noise or have any driving issues … I just noticed the thrust.
FYI if you would have removed the ABS sensors after the rotors, it would have cleared the extra space to push in the axle for the c clips to come out..they usually fall out once cleared and you wouldnt have had to bang at it
Man I just replaced the rear right bearing and seal on a 05 grand marquis 2 months ago came out this morning puddle of gear oil on the ground so now wondering what should I do?
How much noise was this making when driving? Looking at buying a car, 2003 marquis and I believe it has this issues. Can hear it pretty loud around 40+ on test drive. Is she safe to drive about 30 miles home?
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I deff see remnants of fluid on the right rear inside the rim. But it’s not wet. Guy just drove it back from Texas to Dc I’m just concerned about how long it was driven in that condition. I bought some cheap lube from Walmart and figured I’d check and pour in before driving. But is it safe to drive like this?
@@MrWontstopthefunk there’s no way to know without hands on, but as long as I didn’t hear clicking/crunching sounds I’d fill it with fluid and try it. I’ve seen several that don’t look like they’re leaking much because they ran out of fluid a while ago.
Hey Bulldog. Correct me if I'm wrong here but don't you have to pull the pin all the way out and rotate the gear Assembly to get the spider gears to drop out then you have clearance to push the axle's toward each other then you reach in with a magnet and extract the C-Clips?
how did you get the axle unstuck? I'm having the same problem with mine not moving inward so i can access the C clips. It's barely moving 🥲 - an exhausted college girl with a towncar
@@celestepuff8030 I pried inward on it with a prybar, hooked it into the groove where the c-clip goes and kept working it until I got the clip moving out of the groove, then knocked it out the rest of the way with a punch
They must have had a bad run of bearings from their supplier, or went with the lowest bidder. Seen a few of these in the shop and after posting this I’ve had a ton of comments.
@@alljerseysmatter. depends on what brand you use as a replacement, the manufacturer uses aftermarket suppliers for their OE parts, they can have a run of bad parts just like any other company.
I have a 2011 towncar at 10mph it wiggle a little side to side but no noise and it stops when I speed up. I can feel it in my sit at 10 rpm only, the wheels spins ok and I can't rock it back a forth but I can pull it out and push it inabout 1/16th of a inch on the back passenger side what do you think?
In-out (lateral) movement is slack in the side gear/c-clip area…1/16 seems excessive but not much you can do about it, if you have the cover off for any reason you can see exactly what is loose but it’s generally nothing to worry about.
So Lincoln never fixed this issue? How many miles were on these cars when it typically becomes noticeable? If you have a low mileage Town Car how can you prevent it from ever happening?
Bearing, axle shaft, both seals, and the pinion seal that leaked the grease out to begin with causing the bearing failure due to lack of lubricant. The bearings in the center still had grease but it was extremely low.
Hi i have a 2001 Lincoln TC:.... is the replacement for that gen of tc same as for the newer ones? ( i think in the videos it is a tc 2003 or newer) would anyone beso kind and would either list the steps up or could correct /comment my list? (sry im from germany my english might not be the best) My indirect question is: do i have to remove the central pin with a**ho** bolt which always breaks? as far as i understood i dont have to remove it is it right? to remove axle shaft 1) remove Wheel 2) Remove brake Disc 3) Remove diff Cover 4) Remove U Shaped Saftey clip with sits on the of axle shaft 5) remove axle shaft by pulller 6) replace bearing...
Yes that pin has to come out, they usually break with one thread still in and I’ve been able to spin them out with a pick tool…been very lucky. Only had one that wouldn’t come out.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I'm doing my where in and it seems like it's still popping out on the left side do you know something can be wrong minds completely broke off when I was driving and the rim and everything came off
@@chicanomexicanoamericano3652 if the axle’s still attached then it has to do with the c-clip in the diff, I’ve seen the end snap off axles or if nothing is visually broken it could be worn enough that it’s allowing the clip to fall out
I have a question if anyone can help I have a 1999 lincoln town car my rear differential is no good so can i replace it with a 2009 lincoln town car rear differential?
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I'm about to do this exact repair on a 2011 Lincoln Town car. Super helpful thank you
Just finished 06 marquis. Easy job. Mine had plenty of oil but the bearing failed anyway and took the shaft with it. Glitter removal was easy with the proper break cleaner spray. Don't use acetone based carb cleaners. They don't cut good enough and are violent on your skin and eyes.
11:07 finally someone smart enough that realizes you can pull the seal by pulling the bearing with it, I've seen guys beat on the seals for 2 hours with a long screwdriver trying to pry them out when you can just pull the seal out with the bearing all in one...
Ive done that job a few times. I had to replace the right rear axle on my 02 F150 that has the 8.8. Luckily the pinion seal was okay on that one. On a 2005 lincoln town car signature I purchased last month, the forst thing I did was jack each rear axle tube up and checked for up and down play and in and out play and both sides checked out, but, it had a pinion seal leak. I ordered the pinion seal and flange off of Ebay, but before it arrived I noticed the pinion seal wasnt pushed in all the way and was leaking oil from between the metal outer part of the seal, so I put RV all around that metal part of the seal then used a large screw driver to push it in. Then filled the differential back up and noticed the leak stopped. The previous owner had the transmission rebuilt on that car and I assume they changed the pinion seal but never hammered it in maybe because they forgot. Heres what usually wears out these axles ends on these rear ends though, it because at the factory they only half fill these and the axle tubes run dry as a result. So for new car owners, the first time you have an oil change have that damn differential filled
the bearing go bad because of the housing the bearing doesn't get enough lube oil only when u turn corner, if you put the new bearing in feel on the inside of the bearing the ridge of the bearing housing sit to high oil don't soak the bearing put a little more fluid in it that is what i found with these
Appreciate it man. I'm tackling this tomorrow on a 2003 town car. First time ever doing one. Hoping it goes as smooth as you made it look lol
It’s called editing…lol. This one hooked it the groove it wore into the axle and made it hard to pop the axle keepers out.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 how did you work last that?
@@MrWontstopthefunk just had to keep working with it, I was replacing the axle anyway so I didn’t have to be careful with it
A very... interesting video Bulldog. Thank you.
Links to tools u used would be awesome and how you cleaned the shavings would be great.😅 I have the same job to do on my lincoln I just bought.
I don’t keep track of what tools I use, usually whatever I need. What I used to clean out the axle tubes was a broomstick with a large flat washer screwed to the end, I scraped out the large pieces and metal putty then started swabbing it with that broomstick with a paper towel soaked in brake clean. It took a while before I was satisfied it was clean.
Thank you for your candor .Very insightful
Ran into the exact same problem on my grand marquis. Took it to the shop after I had no luck backing out the broken pin bolt. They had to drill it out. I hope i never have the problem again.
@@PantherlPlatformGuy I’ve only had to drill out one, all others I’ve been able to work the bolt out with picks.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I'm getting ready to pop the diff cover off again because I'm having a pulsating kinda grinding noise at around 50mph. I suspect that it could be the bearings on the other axle. I'm not sure exactly what it is yet though.
It's a constant noise, and doesn't change with acceleration or deceleration.
@@PantherlPlatformGuy check the backing plates for the brakes or the parking brake shoes
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I didn't think about that, thanks. I have never changed those but I will now. I know my pinion seal has a tiny leak in it, but I check my diff oil every week. I've checked for play in the pinion, axles and driveshaft. None of them have any play at all.
Thank you kind sir, your video made me $ 1,200
I’ve got an 02. 119k miles . Bought it last fall with 93k. I did change the diff fluid just because when I checked it I couldn’t feel any oil with my finger through the fill port. Oil that came out was relatively clean. Anyway …. Both my rear wheels have some axial thrust to them . Not up and down only axial movement. No leaks . None , not at the end of the axles , not a pinion seal, not a diff cover. I’m wondering if my bearings are going out …. Or if some axial thrust is normal . It doesn’t make any noise or have any driving issues … I just noticed the thrust.
A small amount of in-out slack is normal, just as long as it’s not up and down
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 gotcha . Thank you man. Happy thanksgiving .
@@danielsmith8659 same to you buddy, thanks for watching.
FYI if you would have removed the ABS sensors after the rotors, it would have cleared the extra space to push in the axle for the c clips to come out..they usually fall out once cleared and you wouldnt have had to bang at it
The problem was the grove that the bearing cut into the axle, that’s why the led came out so much easier.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 the same thing had happened to my axle..I replaced it last weekend
Man I just replaced the rear right bearing and seal on a 05 grand marquis 2 months ago came out this morning puddle of gear oil on the ground so now wondering what should I do?
The inner lip on a lot of seals don’t encapsulate the spring enough, I see a lot of them bounce the spring out while driving them in.
How much noise was this making when driving? Looking at buying a car, 2003 marquis and I believe it has this issues. Can hear it pretty loud around 40+ on test drive. Is she safe to drive about 30 miles home?
Jack it up and check for up-down slack/seal leaks. The noise on this was minimal but obvious.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I deff see remnants of fluid on the right rear inside the rim. But it’s not wet. Guy just drove it back from Texas to Dc I’m just concerned about how long it was driven in that condition. I bought some cheap lube from Walmart and figured I’d check and pour in before driving. But is it safe to drive like this?
@@MrWontstopthefunk there’s no way to know without hands on, but as long as I didn’t hear clicking/crunching sounds I’d fill it with fluid and try it. I’ve seen several that don’t look like they’re leaking much because they ran out of fluid a while ago.
Hey Bulldog. Correct me if I'm wrong here but don't you have to pull the pin all the way out and rotate the gear Assembly to get the spider gears to drop out then you have clearance to push the axle's toward each other then you reach in with a magnet and extract the C-Clips?
Yes, but some have shims that will try to work out as you rotate the side gears, I like to just stick the pin back in to prevent that.
These didn’t want to come in because of the axle damage, first time I’ve seen that.
Yeah I've been there done that and have the ball cap and the tee shirt! LOL!
@@walterwhitaker1395 tomorrow’s video will be another that I’d never seen before.
how did you get the axle unstuck? I'm having the same problem with mine not moving inward so i can access the C clips. It's barely moving 🥲 - an exhausted college girl with a towncar
@@celestepuff8030 I pried inward on it with a prybar, hooked it into the groove where the c-clip goes and kept working it until I got the clip moving out of the groove, then knocked it out the rest of the way with a punch
It’s because the axle is most likely cut in where the bearing runs
So on my 2007, if its making a screeching sound then my bearing is actually out, correct?
Need to jack it up and check for slack (up-down) and rotate it to try to recreate the sound, make sure it’s not just brakes.
Doing this right now on a 08 Grand Marquis.
They must have had a bad run of bearings from their supplier, or went with the lowest bidder. Seen a few of these in the shop and after posting this I’ve had a ton of comments.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387So that means those parts will break again??
@@alljerseysmatter. depends on what brand you use as a replacement, the manufacturer uses aftermarket suppliers for their OE parts, they can have a run of bad parts just like any other company.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 WOW, so what company do you prefer?? I'm interested in a 2008-11 Lincoln Town Car. I'm going to purchase one soon
I have a 2011 towncar at 10mph it wiggle a little side to side but no noise and it stops when I speed up. I can feel it in my sit at 10 rpm only, the wheels spins ok and I can't rock it back a forth but I can pull it out and push it inabout 1/16th of a inch on the back passenger side what do you think?
In-out (lateral) movement is slack in the side gear/c-clip area…1/16 seems excessive but not much you can do about it, if you have the cover off for any reason you can see exactly what is loose but it’s generally nothing to worry about.
If the car wiggles side to side on its own then check for a bad tire.
So Lincoln never fixed this issue? How many miles were on these cars when it typically becomes noticeable? If you have a low mileage Town Car how can you prevent it from ever happening?
This car had 165,000mi on it, nothing beyond regular maintenance can be done, pinion seal had leaked and it was low on grease.
Which is best choise for axle shaft? USA tandard gear or which?
@@elmarmeliksoy for the car I wouldn’t be too picky, if it was a heavy duty application I’d be more particular.
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 for the heavy duty what i can buy from rockauto? Or ebay
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 for the heavy duty which is best choise?
Anything but Dorman
I'm wondering why this happens? I've had 1 Town Car and 4 Crown Vics and I've had to do this on almost all of them
Just watched a Rainman Ray video where they ran one till it ground the axle in two, think there’s just not enough grease that gets into the side tubes
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 'lol" I saw that one too, I have never seen anything like that before
So what did you replace?
Bearing, axle shaft, both seals, and the pinion seal that leaked the grease out to begin with causing the bearing failure due to lack of lubricant. The bearings in the center still had grease but it was extremely low.
Hi i have a 2001 Lincoln TC:....
is the replacement for that gen of tc same as for the newer ones? ( i think in the videos it is a tc 2003 or newer)
would anyone beso kind and would either list the steps up or could correct /comment my list? (sry im from germany my english might not be the best)
My indirect question is: do i have to remove the central pin with a**ho** bolt which always breaks? as far as i understood i dont have to remove it is it right? to remove axle shaft
1) remove Wheel
2) Remove brake Disc
3) Remove diff Cover
4) Remove U Shaped Saftey clip with sits on the of axle shaft
5) remove axle shaft by pulller
6) replace bearing...
Yes that pin has to come out, they usually break with one thread still in and I’ve been able to spin them out with a pick tool…been very lucky. Only had one that wouldn’t come out.
I have a question for you if you can respond asap thanks
What’s your question?
@@bulldogsautomotiveadventur4387 I'm doing my where in and it seems like it's still popping out on the left side do you know something can be wrong minds completely broke off when I was driving and the rim and everything came off
@@chicanomexicanoamericano3652 if the axle’s still attached then it has to do with the c-clip in the diff, I’ve seen the end snap off axles or if nothing is visually broken it could be worn enough that it’s allowing the clip to fall out
I have a question if anyone can help I have a 1999 lincoln town car my rear differential is no good so can i replace it with a 2009 lincoln town car rear differential?
I would call a salvage yard, price a used one, then ask “is that the exact year? What years will fit?”.
They didn’t change those much for several years anyway.
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