Kashmir - Nullification of Art 370 - Pak Checkmated | J Sai Deepak, Sanjay Dixit, Ata, Ratan Sharda
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- The Jaipur Dialogues 2019 - Day 1 Session 2 on Kashmir - On Stage -
1. J Sai Deepak
2. Sanjay Dixit
3. Lt. Gen. Ata Hasnain
4. Ratan Sharda
#JaipurDialogues2019 #Kashmir #Article370
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The Q&A Round after the discussion is a must watch.
The spectacle of Pakistan tying itself in knots over the nullification of Article 370 may appear curious to the Indians and to the world at large, but we need to understand the fundamentals underlying this unusual behaviour.
On the face of it, one would find it highly unusual that change of an internal arrangement within the Indian Constitution should excite its perpetually hostile neighbour so much. Yet, if you go behind the reasons for the creation of Pakistan, it would make perfect sense.
The original map of the sub-continent drawn by Chaudhary Rehmat Ali included every part of India having more than 20% Muslim population in Pakistan, or made it independent State, to be included in the Commonwealth of Pakistan later. The original idea of Two-Nation Theory was to take a nearly equal area out of India, and to later subsume the remaining smaller States into its Imperial fold, so as to be able to fulfil the holy task that remained unfulfilled during the Mughal Rule. League contended that India was many nations, and the Muslim nation was the biggest of them all. They were supported in this endeavour by the Communists, who acted on the behest of Soviet Union and their new-found friendship with the British. The Gangadhar Adhikari papers on behalf of the CPI were exactly on the same lines. CPI even submitted a plan for vivisecting India into Pakistan and 17 other countries on the basis of ethnicity and language.
Given this background, and the long term objective of vivisection of India and its complete conversion to Islam, it was quite intolerable for the Pakistan establishment, which got reinforced by the large induction of the discharged 2nd World War decommissioned Army personnel, and a large Army, to even think about letting a Muslim majority Princely State accede to what they looked at as Hindu India.
So when Sheikh Abdullah was able to use his deception to carve out a separate status for J&K, Pakistan saw this as a validation of the Two-Nation Theory. That India had to accord a special status to its only Muslim majority State completed vindicated the Two-Nation Theory in the eyes of Pakistan and its establishment, and they could sell this snake oil to the Pakistani public. As the Pakistan dream kept fading, this spurious fantasy kept the public hooked to the dream of Ghazwa-e-Hind, and kept providing the Pakistan Military its essential life support from the public. When Pakistan came into being, it had got one seventh of India’ resources, one sixth of the area, one sixth of the population, and one third of its Army. This over bloated Army perfected the art of keeping itself relevant by becoming the protector of what is called Nazaria-e-Pakistan, which is nothing but an euphemism for the Two-Nation Theory.
This complicated relationship among the various organs of the Pakistani establishment, and the Army’s self-styled role of prptector of Nazaria-e-Pakistan has meant that it even espoused Jihad in order to pretend to fulfil the raison-détre behind the existence of Pakistan, i.e. conquer the Mecca of India from its stronghold of Pakistani Medina. The Army did try but failed, so it changed the narrative in its text books, spun all its defeats as victories. In the world view of Pakistani Army, a defeat in the conventional sense is not really a defeat. A defeat will happen only when it loses its anchor and will to fight.
When India rectified the mistake it made in 1949 by incorporating Art. 370, and scrapped its provisions, the Islamisation project has received a terminal jolt. After cleansing the Valley, the next project was Jammu. Even if India had offered J&K to Pakistan, they would have targeted other parts of India, because Two-Nation Theory ultimately seeks to end all plurality and diversity and make the whole world subservient to Allah.
It lost a part of this anchor when it lost Bangladesh. That took away the unity of Ummat (Ummah) part and deflated the Two-Nation Theory as well as the Medina Project, but the Pakistan Army recovered it by replacing J&K as the Battle of Badr project in its ultimate conquest of the Mecca of India. With J&K slipping away irrevocably by Art 370 getting abrogated, the remaining part of the anchor has drifted away. That is why the lament in Pakistan is as full of grief as it was after the loss of Bangladesh.
Read this piece by Sanjay Dixit for full understanding:
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#jsaideepak
After sometime people will come here only for J sai deepak
He will become the greatest icon for bhartiya culture and
Indic renaissance 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🔥🔥
I am not a supporter of Modi or a Bhakth. But I will vote for him to be next term PM just for abrogation of article 370. Jai hind
now you must be parmanent supporter of BJP
@@Rohitsharma-jw9im Never. I can't blindly support anyone. They have done blunders wrt economic policies
Modi G Is love❤️
@@Rohitsharma-jw9im Should not be a blind love .
@@JC-nx5xx you have no right to vote for Modi you unemployed
Sai Deepak is one of the best debaters around.. very very factual
J Sai Deepak shows his intelligence again by his excellent arguments. An intellectual gem. Thanks a lot Mr. Deepak.
Ratan Sharda has very correctly stated that the islamic problem of Kashmir started 7 centuries ago in the 1300s when Islamists entered Kashmir
Those who joined the rallies opposing CAA must be feeling stupid now😂😂
19:52 the anchor is feeling proud of bringing sai deepak to this discussion
Ohh really! Idk. Thanks for the info.
Anchor himself is very knowledgeable man, you may watch his TH-cam channel : Jaipur Dialogues
@@RohitSharma-mi8gt but still can't host a debate. The body Language and the proportion of his inputs is appalling
J Sai is the beast 😎
And you ??? With whom you can be compared ??
Gr8 to see Sanjay Sir and Sai Sir sharing the same Platform 🙏
That's very blunt of Ratan Sharda to expose the real face of Muslim effect in kashmir,which none dares to talk about. Love your proposition ,Sir.
Sai deepak = Dr. Swami 2.0
this guy needs to be in the parliment
skip 12mins if you want to listen just sai deepak words 😅
Sai is Rock ...
Comprehensive discussion throwing light on history, security, legality and strategic planning and vision. Thanks to all the panelists and the organization for conducting such discussion.
Normalcy in Kashmir means it’s de-islamisation, when the Kashmiri pandits return with full pomp and honour and the Sharda Peeth is once again open for devotees ! That is normalcy
Ratan Sharda ji enlightened me on this today n I am sure many of us dint know these things in detail
What a brilliant argument by Sai Deepak .. Great.
I agree with General Hasnain that India should have abrogated 370 just after 1971 in 1972 and latest by 1994 by all parties, it is being politicised bcoz BJP did it, What happened was the past and now all political parties must support the nullification of 370,
The media especially Republic should take the help of professionals like Sai Deepak instead of all these other people they have on the panel
Ratan sharda brilliantly explained in the language that a layman who has no knowledge in history will understand. Thank you sir. Sai Deepak was brilliant as usual. Both of them were very good.
Beginning is done from today, a wonderful way to celebrate Sardhar Patel's Birthday , statue of unity. J&K is part and parcel of India is a new truth, and no one can escape this truth now. The PoK and Aksai Chin are not to far away to join India for sure.
Extremely important discussion.
I appreciate and salute all the dignitaries who participated in the discussion for throwing light on Kashmir in different perspectives.
It indeed is good to hear great people about the present condition of Jammu & Kashmir wrought worst by many so called great political leaders,all that we need is to integrate it and develop it
Really good discussion
Well said Deepak sir. ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM.
INSANIYAT HU AKBAR!
Kashmir is INDIA
Brilliant opening introduction by Sanjay Dixit, with superlative moderation. Wish we could have more IAS officers like him
Very urgent need of development of right wing in India and its on right track with right pace, truly India needs offical right wing revolution which talks about the fundamental values and culture of our great country... I would like to be a part of this change and this phase will definitely know as the Renaissance of right wing in India
Join Deepak Sai on twitter and follow him. Also Sanjay Dixit subscribe to their channel, Also Neeraj Atri and Tufail Chaturvedi. This is the upcoming right wing. Thanks for supporting.
@@namratanayyar JAI shree RAM 🙏
Sai Deepak ji super 🙏
Kashmir is 🇮🇳 ....no Islamic terror is allowed
J sai deepak is brilliant...
There is nothing in Pakistan - how many foreign tourists actually go to that failed place
Only way to strengthen India is to Hinduize India. To make India a Hindu Rashtra. We need to aim for a day when all Indians wholeheartedly chant the slogan Jai Shri Ram, not Jai Hind.
Simple diagnosis..
Islam. 1400 years and we still keep beating around bushes
Sanjayji respect u but either u improve as anchor n get rid of ur drawing room talk style or u stay away from anchoring coz it's a serious issue n ur guest r also mature n seasoned
He Needs to stop eating gutkha first.
Great sai deepak
Learnt may aspects of the constitution from brilliant inputs from Mr.Sai Deepak!
23:00 Best logic & argument by J SAI DEEPAK is given
( Thank me later & with due respect to the host of the Jaipur dialogue, sir please this is something really significant, you should seem to be more passionate or enthusiastic about it 🙏😇
History is made and remade.India should keep it in mind.How far the crisis in J&K will expand.How it will overflow .Tradegy with India is that it could not manage Kashmir on its side.From the inception there was crisis after crisis for India.
Gen. Hasnain is spot on.....nice debate sir🙏
Hats off to Major General
Nails down the challenges and the solutions to the point. We should make him a direct Administrator in Kashmir. Modi government should talk to him asap.
I always liked his lectures
Very positive approach to resolve the Ksshmir issue unlike other passive crying voices of main stream Indians who think all Kashmiris are against India.
Gen Hasnain is a great analyst 👌👌🙏🙏
Yes birader it's Islam, it's umma, it's darul Islam vs darul harb. From makka to madina.
Incredible ata sir
Great debate of great people. 👌👍
General Ata Husain is brilliant.
Ghazala Khan One of the best speakers.
As brilliant as you
See him as Indian not as Muslim
@@lakshmankaranamumma hai
He is one of the best speaker
All of India is special now, as it should be.
Jai hind🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
True
Gen Ata Husnain is brilliant.
All speakers were good, liked ex Army General person views .
That development purpose starting
It was a lively debate,
This Muslim wanting us to win Muslim confidence. He is playing Al taqiya
Duniya bhare ke atyachar,badmashi yeh kare..aur hum inka confidence jeetein😁
That is in the year 1977 to 1983 period handed
Over society
What did our great judiciary do for those pundits who are exiled...
Let gen speach was grear. Every indian must listen .
When our Politiciansand their sons views are restricted to purchase of one house abroad by shaking hands with underworld and be a partner business with who are responsible communal roits forget about their aim to think long term.
Jury's decision to make the question as the best is prejudiced and hollowed.
After complaint from India in the security council of the United nations only complicity of Pakistan in the so called tribal rides was established.
And the United nations resolution recognized Pakistan as illegal occupant in that part of Kashmir it occupies. It allowed Indian military presence in Kashmir and asked Pakistan to vacate Kashmir for conducting plebiscite in Kashmir.
So the UN resolution was in favor of India. If India withdraws the petition it automatically legitimizes Pakistan's claim on Kashmir.
Actual I booked in society 2 plots but not adjusted all all member due to sufficient plots not there so I am taken only one that I requested give me in main road plot so they are alloyed this only
Sanjay Dixit seems to be intoxicated by alcohol
i think you didnt see his other speeches because that is his style and accent
I think the biggest problem of the discussion is Gaurav Arya. He ask questions and answers disurbing the flow of discussion.
Gaurav Arya did not figure
Was not present
Stop Stamping Muslims as Kashmiris,this may distance Kashmir from India not because of Muslims but by Kashmiris.
Time To Take Action Everyone Hindu And Put First In AJENDA!!
All come Next Likely Job And Economies Angel All Next!!!
Don’t Trust Hindus Who Have Connect Picefull Community!!!
Never Think Some People Are Good
Sir - only you seem to talk a lot in this dialogue
Sanjay Ji, you talk too much as anchor. Please consider the proportion.
One he was sold land 35 acres each 500/- per acre only
there is a difference between Iraq and Afghanistan . Also , Pakistan people are not same as Syria . Go for liberation of Balochistan
why don"t you invite from south .who support aryan migration theory and made a debate session
There is no realation up to 2007 only society mulkath hai chains prpole
11:09.
💚
Hamara percents se southern temple 1984 -85 I think poor phir say hoom
Please Indian army do not participate in Afghanistan.
Who are you
Shes right though. Because sending troops would hurt india financially.
@@himdude9637 your mother
The truth is art370 was sorted by Kashmiri Hindus till 1990, later genocide happened. Same hindu demanded abrogation.
Get your history right
Why is Ata Hasnain invited here ?
He has extensively served in Kashmir and was consulted before the abrogation of 370.
International audience listening to this program which speakers acknowledge but then they choose to yak away in Hindi.
Bullseye 🙏🏻
Urir
Really a great forum to share the knowledge but I feel it would be more interesting if the forum contained from both the sides. It's completely BJP Panel
No, the thing is that we are not habitual with hearing sheer facts, if we see closely enough truely intelligent persons like these we will come to know that they won't side themselves with any party or political ideology, they are all about data-facts telling truth, if we have truthful facts and figures we can win them over and they will agree without resistance. But thing is that only one sided narrative is pushed through out since independence hiding facts with lies and distortions in history which we are habitual with and that is the reason you are calling them as panel of BJP, they are panel of Bharat not BJP.
In that panel there is a person who is a retired army officer Lt Gen Ata Hasnian. So you call him as a member of BJP panel just because he spoke about facts and out across the real incidents happened in the state.
He he...good joke.
Rubbish anchor
LOL...
Cobra Dixit
Lazy speaker Sanjay dixit.
Ratan Sharda sounds a big fool.
bab lobko Elaborate.
U sound like u need to apply Burnol in ur arsehole.
Agreed bro
Truth hurts
When such a great truth comes out which has never been taught in our great “NCERT” books, arse shall burn n get charred !!
Truth feels like fool to fools😂🤣
Bunch of eminent gentlemen themselves deciding themselves whether it was right or wrong without having a single kashmiri there....and many fools believing whatever they say...
What decisions are they making here? They're having a discussion, not passing any law. They're entitled to have their own opinion about Kashmir even if they aren't Kashmiri themselves. Stop being so foolish
@@darkpanda239 well everyone has a right to have their opinion and discussion but the problem is when it happens away from the realistic prism and one sided ..u didn't got it right brother I meant that to make it more worth and semantic at least have a person for whose befit you are claiming to have them .....and by saying fools I meant those persons who without studying and enquiring throw readymade opinions
And by single Kashmiri do you mean a single Kashmiri Muslim or pandit/sikh/Buddhist?? Because Kashmiri pandits have been driven away by Muslims to change the demography there and when that happened none spoke up for them
@@kabeerwani1328 well my brother if you look at the panel..One among them is an retired army officer who is a Muslim. They are just discussing the facts which happened in Kashmir through out the history since the partition.
Have you ever thought why the hell so called geelani, mufti and other separatist children's are not in fore front of the rallies which takes places after Friday namaz..why only local Kashmiri Muslims wer in part of the rally because there children will be enjoying the higher education in abroad with the money sent by Gov of India for development of locals.
Kashmir is not the only state...it also has Jammu and ladakh which constitutes more than 60% of Jammu and Kashmir.
If you are Kashmiri, we Indians love you and we want to help you understand the truth of what happening on ground and to help you make the right choice.
@@pradeeprao2414 I never supported separatists and never will they are just hypocrites ....what I am saying is let everything be decided in a democratic way and atleast let the people of kashmir have all the rights which rest of the country enjoys ....you will be in a better position to see it if you visit and have deep analysis of everything ....then you decide everything how oppression and tyranny looks like
Kashmiri leader Ali Gillani died yesterday in Srinagar. His body was taken away from the family and buried at night.
If India cannot allow a day time funeral, that reflects the situation in Kashmir and the state of 800,000 occupation Indian army.
We don't give funeral rights to terrorists
Terrorists don’t deserve human rights
@@Creativity06 85 years old dead Terrorists ?
even 13 are there in pig's
@@xpsmango4146 a terrorist is a terrorist even if he's a 100 yrs old. Once dead, he won't become a shaheed as on lines of that beggar Imran Khan Niazi
General, you have shown your true islamist colours by being on the side of Pakistan. Shame on you!
FREEDON FOR KASHMIR.
From terrorist
Take your freedom and stick it up your stupid ass
Pichwade mein chipkake bazaar mein ghum. Shayad koi paise dede.
Kill all terrorist and their supporters and **pe their women's