@@FernandoComicsOfficial "I had a lot of plans for the Thor run, but alas when they decided to do Siege of Asgard as a big Event there was no way any of those plans could go ahead, it would literally kick all of them to the curb, so I eased my way out of the book"
It's a shame they don't know what to do with Sentry after those stories. Technically he is permanently dead now and a girl has his powers for some unexplained reason.
They explained it but it wasn't a good explanation, we all know why they gave her his power. The author wasted no time in telling everyone that it's all for DEI.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 The worst thing is that the girl doesn't even use Sentry's name as a hero in the end, why make that story if it's not even related to Sentry/Bob, they could have changed where she got the powers and It would be the same
@@franciscoOrellana29 I'm glad that she doesn't have his name because that would be another Jane the imposter situation and since marvel plans on bringing sentry to MCU they probably wanted to leave the door open for his eventual return in the comics.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Yeah you're right, not using his name was dodging a bullet, I hope Sentry in the MCU has a good reception so they bring him back in the comics properly.
Actually if he's the Angel of Death he'd be essentially cut of the same cloth or more. Because Norse Gods and most others are more or less are acknowleged in Christianity it's just that although sometimes still called gods they are explained to be: Demons/Angels, Demi-Gods, or early Humans(who lived very long) Thor would more or less qualify as an Angel, though admitedly "The Angel of Death" Might outrank him unless he's seriously high up there like Gabriel or Lucifer/Satan.
@@noahwattel4226He's not the Angel of Death. Bob is a self resurrecting, telepathic reality warper with a split mind. The Sentry is what Bob envisions as the "perfect hero" while Void is a manifestation of his dark and repressed emotions and thoughts. Their dynamic is that for every good deed The Sentry does, The Void must balance it with an act of malevolence while Bob is stuck in the middle. Void's claimed to be all kinds of things such as Knull, the Angel of Death, Galactus, etc. He never actually means it. He just says off-the-wall bs to mess with people.
4:07 NAH! I love this void design, the insectoid claws are absolutely awesome, as are the inhuman eyes, it's my favorite look for the sentry honestly. Other ones just look like a sentry reskin or an energy imbued Symbiote. And we all know how angels have been recontexutalized to look nowadays.
Happy Thanksgiving, and you right. Only characters like him, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Ghost Rider, X-Man, Black Bolt, Photon, etc. could fight Bob and not get immediately bodied.
@@wulaeofthetengu8336Hulk, Ghost Rider and Photon(Spectrum or Genis-Vell) dont belong there. You should add Odin, Franklin Richards, Uatu, Blue Marvel, Phoenix Jean, Phoenix Rachel, Doop and Im not sure if Loki, Apocalypse, Legion and Danger are good guys now but if they are, then them included.
Damn been subbed to you for ages but this is the first time I saw your face! (even with mask). I know the algoritm kinda screwed you over but I guess at least they reccomended this one. Anyway I think most fights were a bit "unfair" in the sense that it was some of Sentry's most powerful forms vs Base or weaker Thor. Whereas Thor ar full potential (which would be if he was like as Old as Odin) I think either Thor outright beats him or it's like 50/50. Just like how Base Thor and Base Sentry seem fairly equal.
Indeed bro, the algorithm has slapped me pretty hard haha. But I'm lucky honestly, I have a great community ! I appreciate you man ! And I agree, I think Thor is > Base Sentry in general !
@@FernandoComicsOfficial thanks bro I appreciate it Ghost Rider is the goat in my opinion specifically Johnny Blaze is one of my personal favorite Marvel characters and I know they fought before like recently Thor has beaten Ghost Rider in the 2022 Ghost Rider run and Ghost Rider has beaten Thor in uncanny Avengers I believe but I really want to know who actually wins and settle the debate once and for all
Really love this format. Reminds of Thor vs Hulk Imaginary Axis has done. It would be awesome if you can do so for other rivals such as Thing vs Namor or Spider-Man vs Wolverine. Happy thanksgiving! 🦃
I actually did one for Spider-Man vs Wolverine if you want to check it out brother ! But absolutely, I'll branch out as well to others ! Appreciate you bro !
The Sentry would be an amazing character if not for two things: 1) His Origins are among the most awful such stories in comics. Literally "Random scientist working to recreate Super Serum. Instead makes Deity creating serum but doesn't lock it away for safekeeping." 2) They make him out to be incredibly cool and fun to read about with his warring self and problems...then...someone drops the ball, hard. Merged Sentry storyline is the best example of this. AFAIK the current nonsense has his power split among a number of people with one Syler style villain trying to absorb it all? Did they ever move past that?
They haven't moved past it yet. Donny Cates was so ignorant in writing him in King in Black, then Jason Loo just added to the ridiculousness. Jeff Lemire had a great thing going with merged Sentry. Bro just started having him move in a new direction.
Sentry's whole origin is pretty meta with how he was supposed to be another hero amongst the classics that had to be forgotten even by the real world. So him having a pretty basic origin akin to Hulks and Captain americas in spite of the insane powers granted doesn't feel too out of place. But maybe they could've have put more context into it
His origin actually makes sense if you really think about it. Humans create a serum so powerful that if it works, it will allow the user to harness different kinds of energy potentially giving them limitless power. But the serum turns out to be 100% lethal and highly radioactive, prompting evacuation and abandonment of the project. Decades later, a high schooler with mental issues and drug addiction breaks into the lab and finds the radioactive serum. Oblivious to the burning sensations and the toxicity of the air, he injests the formula. After hours of excruciating pain and trying vainly to crawl out of the premise, he passes out and d!#$. Days later, he wakes up, feeling very different, feeling very powerful. The serum worked (for him), but at what cost? In a recent comic by Al Elwing, it was hinted that the Sentry's power could be connected to TOAA.
Even strength wise thor is superior, sentry was able to defeat thor when he was amped, in base form he was beaten by thor. Peak thor>peak sentry, base thor ≥ base sentry. In base form (the most consistent) its 50/50.
Thor still had the Odin Force around this time and the fight between him & Sentry it was pretty much a stalemate just like WW Hulk Vs Sentry. I would love to see how an Ultimate version of Sentry in the Ultimate Universe. Even Thor admitted Sentry could have been one of the greatest avengers. That’s why Hyperion, Hulk & Thor are my favorite Avengers.
I hate Sentry. His introduction was force fed and awkward, his orgin is contrived and silly, his power level was all over the place, and overall his greatest power was plot armor.
Yes and no Sentry has a lead in terms of W of course i don't deny that but the thing is it was amped sentry for the most part. In base form he lost to base thor in the beginning of the siege.
Um. No. You seem to misunderstand. The Void is equally as powerful as Sentry because they're literally the same dude. That's not an amp. Bob is a self resurrecting, telepathic reality warper, as are The Sentry and The Void. The writer for the comic in which he's a Horseman of Death stated that the Death Seed didn't amp Sentry's power, just made his mind stable in a warped way. Base Sentry cooks Base Thor 99% of the time.
@@wulaeofthetengu8336But the ones that whooped base Thor were Merged Void, Merged Sentry and Horseman of Apocalypse Sentry/Death Seed Sentry. All of them were indeed amped from their usual forms.
@@nielsfrederiksen6636 No they're not. That's like saying Rune King Thor, Gaeaforce Thor and Odinforce are the same as Thor, clearly there's a difference in power. Unless you meant that their alter egos are the same, then that would be correct because both are Robert Reynolds.
@TheMasterofDisaster48 How are they different? Sentry in Siege #1 is the same as in #4. He just lost control to the void. He is still the same person. No one gave him more power
4:15 That eldritch monster is Merged Void. The human shadowy looking Void is actually normal Void. The Sentry, The Void and Thor are equals according to Marvel's hierarchy. So that would mean Meged Sentry and Merged Void are superior to Thor. That's why Thor needed the Odinforce to finish Merged Void off.
No te preocupes, siempre chingan cada personaje, en especial a Thor. Y luego con Sentry, lo chingaron con Sentry Fusionado, supuestamente el más poderoso que ha sido. Debe haber una pelea entre el Thor actual (con el poder de Zeus) contra Sentry Fusionado. Sin embargo, tenemos pocos logros sobre este wey. Disfruta tu Thanksgiving, no quiero tamales hoy 😂 mejor pozole o enchiladas suizas 😊
Sentry reminds me of a failed Version of Z Broly. Both are portrayed as the strongest and glazed hard in there own series, but the plot will always hold them back for the sake of another story going on. But at least with Z Broly they try to keep that "strongest image" going in a somewhat consistent manner cause he rarely jobs to anyone after his movie appearances, while Sentry is always making me question what the writers want to do with him cause they portray him as a top 1 unbeatable monster into a street level jobber and blame it on his mental problems or a stepping stone for other powerful threats like Knull etc. The writers need to decide what they want from Sentry
Wait i'm confused, hasn't broly Jobbed *within* his movies? I remember people being in uproar over the bio Broly thing at least. I definitely think not everyone is pn board with how strong sentry ought to be regardless.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Wouldn't say jobbed, more like they ruined his image with Bio Broly, but Bio Broly was beating up the SSJ kids, but still didn't mean much
Honestly, Sentry wanting to die is meaningless, cause Thor still had to kill him. Thats like saying Galactus at his most powerful wanting to die, Yeah but you still need the power to kill him. Btw Great Vid Fernando, thanks for stay unbiased and gave both sides a fair shake.
@@akshaaynair7912 Well Fernando forgot to mention that Brian Michael bendis the writer of siege came out and confirmed that the Void or Bob allowed Thor to kill him. There's a reason why he remained within the sun regenerating and dying repeatedly.
Actually Thor only killed him because he wanted to die. His power also depends on Bob's will, which the Void called a weakness and hated. Because Bob wanted to die, it made their overall power level low enough for Thor to kill them. I'll try to get the comic issue that said it.
It seems that KIB is still a sensitive topic for Sentry fans, but when other authors use characters in a disrespectful way to hyping him there is no problem. What an insufferable fanbase lol
Guess that whole thing with molecule man was out of pocket and never went anywhere, and that ultron fight was horrid, but anything with knull is just lame in general.
1000 percent on the Thor Killed Void. Sentry wanted to die and if you accept that the void is “another” and not Sentry, then it’s clear THOR single handedly killed Void.
The Void isn't another though. Both Sentry and Void are Bob. Hell, in Siege when Bob asks Thor to kill him and turns into Void to force him, Void literally screams for Thor to do it.
@wulaeofthetengu8336 Void is no longer part of Sentry now, though. It was always a part of Knull to begin with, which he imbued in Sentry. I forgot why exactly 😅
@@wulaeofthetengu8336why do y'all always act like because sentry asked to be killed after he literally lost control of his own powers, it somehow means he's now less powerful than he was a minute ago? dude if you stand there and ask me to punch you, even without you offering any resistance, i still have to be comparable to you in strength or even stronger than you to be able to knock u out. i mean if simply screaming kill me weakened him, why didn't Spider-Man or any of the other avengers do it?? also with what happened in KING IN BLACK it is clear as day that the void is a an entirely different entity to sentry. yeah retcon is a b#tch but it is what it is 😂
@@thundererswrath2185 Not true, Fernando forgot to mention that bendis himself came out and confirmed that the only reason why Thor was able to kill him was because Bob allowed him to. He could have just resurrected again and killed thor if he still wanted to fight but he chose to die.
Sentry is more powerful but he is also on Hyperion's demeanour, bad writing for a character out of place, he never has a run that doesn't ends soon and he has potential but never pays off, also The Void seems to be the real deal not Sentry.
That first Thor win just knocked him away briefly before he came back. That was only a piece of their Siege fight. I wouldn't call that a dub. The second Thor win wasn't really Thor winning. It was Bob allowing him to win. Come on now. That's obvious by both Bob and Void telling Thor to kill him.
does him asking to be killed now means Spider-Man or daredevil can kill him ?? you don't seem to understand that in that particular state ( void ) sentry himself has basically lost all control.....he can't do anything to the void hence he was literally screaming for help ( end me before i destroy everything ) but you still need someone on his level to be able to pull that off. that a concrete wall can't defend itself doesn't mean you can be able to punch through it. stop this bias reasoning 😂😂
know this In most of these fights sentry was amped, in base form thor one shots him (as it can be seen in the video). And thor didn't use his most potent attack god blast which can one shot sentry.
Complete Sentry vs Thor presently, with the Zeus belt, ect. Who ya got winning that one, Fernando? I'm taking Sentry. He smacked Tjir and Cap. Marvel away like they were flies.
First of all, did we all read the same comics?? why do y'all assume that thor is now AMPED with Zeus power when he is literally not even using it? he can't use that power ( at least not currently ) because it will corrupt him the same way it did to Zeus. there's a reason he turned it into a belt. secondly, captain marvel is a non factor in the comics. don't buy into her MCU hype. she's not remotely on the level of sentry and thor in the comics, like not even remotely close. lastly, sentry's last battle with thor was when he was merged sentry. they went toe to toe with each other before sentry was subdued. but it was a low showing for sentry since he fought with golden thor. a less powerful version of thor. if they are written correctly, current thor would beat him mid difficulty. but it won't be a marvel story if thor odinson is not jobbing 😂😂😂😂
@@Tecnofanbooy Nah i dont see thor beating merged sentry if he's written correctly, you also didn't mention how merged sentry was weakened when he fought the agents of wakanda so much so street level characters were doing as much damage to him as King thor was. The belt does grant power btw, it resisted Loki's story magic and enchantresses.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 he wasn't weakened at all. fat cobra literally stated that reality was warping around him. i think what you meant to say was that fat cobra's chi was messing with his powers. and that's not king thor that fought him. that was that weak golden arm jason Aaron's thor. same thor that hulk broke his jaw with one punch. same hulk in that same page couldn't even knock captain america out. and he still went toe to toe with merged sentry. that's why i said in my previous comment that it was a LOW SHOWING for sentry. but thor with the full measure of the Odinforce would win. merged sentry wasn't all that. yes the belt grants him PROTECTION against SKALD MAGIC but folks out here acting like he's using it's full powers stacked on top the Odinforce when it's literally not true.
@@Tecnofanbooy No he was mentally unstable Fernando even mentioned it in the video, Read up on sentry and you'll learn that his power is tied to his mental state and in that story he had no idea what was going on around him. No that was King Thor that sentry fought he didn't have his golden arm go back and look it was the destroyer arm that he had in war of realms and he had Mjonir in that issue as well. How do you know he isn't using its power when he shaped it to enhance him in the form of a belt?
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 not you telling me to read up on a character that 100% up to date with. 😭😭. he wasn't mentally unstable dude. sentry only becomes mentally unstable when he's in disagreement with the void. the whole point of merged sentry was that he has finally reconciled with the void and accepted who he is. merged sentry and death seed sentry are the only version of sentry that his powers doesn't depend on his confidence. also again THATS NOT KING THOR. and by that, i mean thor with the Odinforce. and he still literally had that arm in that fight. I'm beginning to think you never read that story and your argument is heavily influenced by what you see here 😂
Siege was the reason why JMS decided to quit his Thor run. This video reminded me how much I despise that event and, consequently, the sentry
@@imrondo-s3o I did not know that was why JMS quit his Thor run ! That's huge, I'd like to see that interview.
@@FernandoComicsOfficial "I had a lot of plans for the Thor run, but alas when they decided to do Siege of Asgard as a big Event there was no way any of those plans could go ahead, it would literally kick all of them to the curb, so I eased my way out of the book"
He said that and some more in his x account
It's a shame they don't know what to do with Sentry after those stories. Technically he is permanently dead now and a girl has his powers for some unexplained reason.
They explained it but it wasn't a good explanation, we all know why they gave her his power. The author wasted no time in telling everyone that it's all for DEI.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 The worst thing is that the girl doesn't even use Sentry's name as a hero in the end, why make that story if it's not even related to Sentry/Bob, they could have changed where she got the powers and It would be the same
@@franciscoOrellana29 I'm glad that she doesn't have his name because that would be another Jane the imposter situation and since marvel plans on bringing sentry to MCU they probably wanted to leave the door open for his eventual return in the comics.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Yeah you're right, not using his name was dodging a bullet, I hope Sentry in the MCU has a good reception so they bring him back in the comics properly.
@@franciscoOrellana29 I hope so too but I don't have any faith in the MCU anymore after their streak of disappointments.
Happy thanksgiving, thanks for this. Thor vs Sentry is insane to think about.
A man with godlike powers vs an actual God
Sentry always wins 😮💨😞
Actually if he's the Angel of Death he'd be essentially cut of the same cloth or more.
Because Norse Gods and most others are more or less are acknowleged in Christianity it's just that although sometimes still called gods they are explained to be: Demons/Angels, Demi-Gods, or early Humans(who lived very long)
Thor would more or less qualify as an Angel, though admitedly "The Angel of Death"
Might outrank him unless he's seriously high up there like Gabriel or Lucifer/Satan.
A God vs the God-Killer.
@@noahwattel4226He's not the Angel of Death. Bob is a self resurrecting, telepathic reality warper with a split mind. The Sentry is what Bob envisions as the "perfect hero" while Void is a manifestation of his dark and repressed emotions and thoughts. Their dynamic is that for every good deed The Sentry does, The Void must balance it with an act of malevolence while Bob is stuck in the middle. Void's claimed to be all kinds of things such as Knull, the Angel of Death, Galactus, etc. He never actually means it. He just says off-the-wall bs to mess with people.
@wulaeofthetengu8336 I wouldn't say he is a God killer because he gets clapped by Knull and other strong Gods
4:07 NAH! I love this void design, the insectoid claws are absolutely awesome, as are the inhuman eyes, it's my favorite look for the sentry honestly. Other ones just look like a sentry reskin or an energy imbued Symbiote. And we all know how angels have been recontexutalized to look nowadays.
My favorite form of The Void has always been the version that wore the fedora. He was basically a satanic Joker.
@@wulaeofthetengu8336 Huh! Just looked that one up, I can see the appeal but bug voids still my favorite
Totally respectable bro ! I know more people who liked it also, I'm glad it hit the spot for you man !
I love this channel, always putting respect on Thor!
It loves you back man ! Thank you for watching !
Happy Thanksgiving, can you do every Thor and Silver Surfer fight in the future?
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Iirc, Uru is one of the only things that can hurt Silver Surfer's galactic glaze
@comicbookking3446 sure thing! That ones about the amount of fights too I think!
Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Also gotta give Thor credit for being one of the few heroes bold enough to take on Sentry.
Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving, and you right. Only characters like him, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Ghost Rider, X-Man, Black Bolt, Photon, etc. could fight Bob and not get immediately bodied.
@@wulaeofthetengu8336Hulk, Ghost Rider and Photon(Spectrum or Genis-Vell) dont belong there. You should add Odin, Franklin Richards, Uatu, Blue Marvel, Phoenix Jean, Phoenix Rachel, Doop and Im not sure if Loki, Apocalypse, Legion and Danger are good guys now but if they are, then them included.
@@HeihachiMishima48 Genis-Vell obviously belongs there. While both were holding back, he got a win over Sentry via BFR in Thunderbolts #14.
@@jacobcollier23 I don't see that as a win for Genis though, BFR isn't really beating the opponent and sentry was holding back as well.
Im thankful for the great channel and fun community here. I love you guys. Happy Thanksgiving!
@andrewboyer7544 same here brother ! It's always a fun time 🙌🫶
Damn been subbed to you for ages but this is the first time I saw your face! (even with mask).
I know the algoritm kinda screwed you over but I guess at least they reccomended this one.
Anyway I think most fights were a bit "unfair" in the sense that it was some of Sentry's most powerful forms vs Base or weaker Thor.
Whereas Thor ar full potential (which would be if he was like as Old as Odin) I think either Thor outright beats him or it's like 50/50.
Just like how Base Thor and Base Sentry seem fairly equal.
Indeed bro, the algorithm has slapped me pretty hard haha. But I'm lucky honestly, I have a great community ! I appreciate you man ! And I agree, I think Thor is > Base Sentry in general !
Could you do every Thor vs Ghost Rider fight
I can look for them bro ! I think their may only be like 4ish though across multiple ghost riders ! I will check bro !
@@FernandoComicsOfficial thanks bro I appreciate it Ghost Rider is the goat in my opinion specifically Johnny Blaze is one of my personal favorite Marvel characters and I know they fought before like recently Thor has beaten Ghost Rider in the 2022 Ghost Rider run and Ghost Rider has beaten Thor in uncanny Avengers I believe but I really want to know who actually wins and settle the debate once and for all
@Daverast01 you got it man !!
Wish there was a team up of them like thor and hyperion
Yeah, besides the very first Sentry mini-series, there's nothing even close to a team up between the two ! Too bad honestly
Really love this format. Reminds of Thor vs Hulk Imaginary Axis has done. It would be awesome if you can do so for other rivals such as Thing vs Namor or Spider-Man vs Wolverine.
Happy thanksgiving! 🦃
I actually did one for Spider-Man vs Wolverine if you want to check it out brother ! But absolutely, I'll branch out as well to others ! Appreciate you bro !
Love u bro, u are a legend
you are the legend my friend ! I appreciate you brother !
2:10 bro pulled a gwenpool there
😆😆😆
Hi Fernando Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 Glad to see you’re doing well!
Irish my friend ! Happy Thanksgiving ! Thank you man, I hope you are as well !
Both of these characters are very powerful and very strong.... The Clash of titans there
Yes indeed my friend !
The Sentry would be an amazing character if not for two things:
1) His Origins are among the most awful such stories in comics. Literally "Random scientist working to recreate Super Serum. Instead makes Deity creating serum but doesn't lock it away for safekeeping."
2) They make him out to be incredibly cool and fun to read about with his warring self and problems...then...someone drops the ball, hard. Merged Sentry storyline is the best example of this. AFAIK the current nonsense has his power split among a number of people with one Syler style villain trying to absorb it all? Did they ever move past that?
They haven't moved past it yet. Donny Cates was so ignorant in writing him in King in Black, then Jason Loo just added to the ridiculousness. Jeff Lemire had a great thing going with merged Sentry. Bro just started having him move in a new direction.
Sentry's whole origin is pretty meta with how he was supposed to be another hero amongst the classics that had to be forgotten even by the real world. So him having a pretty basic origin akin to Hulks and Captain americas in spite of the insane powers granted doesn't feel too out of place. But maybe they could've have put more context into it
I don't even know bro. I believe one girl has his powers now, what a waste honestly. Just stabilize Robert, why kill him off?
His origin actually makes sense if you really think about it. Humans create a serum so powerful that if it works, it will allow the user to harness different kinds of energy potentially giving them limitless power. But the serum turns out to be 100% lethal and highly radioactive, prompting evacuation and abandonment of the project. Decades later, a high schooler with mental issues and drug addiction breaks into the lab and finds the radioactive serum. Oblivious to the burning sensations and the toxicity of the air, he injests the formula. After hours of excruciating pain and trying vainly to crawl out of the premise, he passes out and d!#$. Days later, he wakes up, feeling very different, feeling very powerful. The serum worked (for him), but at what cost?
In a recent comic by Al Elwing, it was hinted that the Sentry's power could be connected to TOAA.
I think Thor wins, story-wise, so to speak, even though Sentry is shown to be stronger overall.
@@nazaren45 makes sense to me man !
Even strength wise thor is superior, sentry was able to defeat thor when he was amped, in base form he was beaten by thor. Peak thor>peak sentry, base thor ≥ base sentry. In base form (the most consistent) its 50/50.
even though we can't see your face, I think your really cute :3
Thank you my friend ! I bet we're all good looking people on here haha ! 😁
Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy thanksgiving my friend !
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chaos King and knull Are playing cards
I like o see Thor team up with Blue Marvel like he was with Hyperion,Blue Marvel beat both Sentry and Hyperion
that would be great! Blue Marvel is weirdly underused for my tastes.
Thor still had the Odin Force around this time and the fight between him & Sentry it was pretty much a stalemate just like WW Hulk Vs Sentry.
I would love to see how an Ultimate version of Sentry in the Ultimate Universe. Even Thor admitted Sentry could have been one of the greatest avengers. That’s why Hyperion, Hulk & Thor are my favorite Avengers.
No Thor sacrificed the Odin force before siege in order to restore his hammer.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Yep!
Hyperion is too much of a Superman copy for my liking tbh. The Sentry is arguably the most unique of the characters inspired by Superman.
I hate Sentry. His introduction was force fed and awkward, his orgin is contrived and silly, his power level was all over the place, and overall his greatest power was plot armor.
Wow sorry Sentry has had such a big impact on your life.
@@zetokaiba5867 guess it's not safe here to share an opinion
@@mikemiles3077 They said they hate him 🤷 I haven't ever hated a fictional character sounds like some spectrum type stuff.
@@zetokaiba5867 So you insult someone you think might have mental issues? How nice
@@mikemiles3077 Where did I insult them? There's nothing wrong with being autistic.
Damn I always knew sentry was a powerhouse but having 3 dubs over Thor is wild.
Thanks for the video man and glad your back
Have a happy thanksgiving
And hulk drew with sentry
@@anhillary9345it literally took the most powerful version of hulk to ever exist to achieve that feat. and sentry didn't even go void on him 😂😂
@@TecnofanbooyThey were both going all out
Yes and no
Sentry has a lead in terms of W of course i don't deny that but the thing is it was amped sentry for the most part. In base form he lost to base thor in the beginning of the siege.
Thank you Andrew my friend ! I hope Thanksgiving went nicely for you bro ! I'll see you in the next one :)
Interesting 👍
So Sentry always had power ups against Thor and Thor only had it once
Um. No. You seem to misunderstand. The Void is equally as powerful as Sentry because they're literally the same dude. That's not an amp. Bob is a self resurrecting, telepathic reality warper, as are The Sentry and The Void. The writer for the comic in which he's a Horseman of Death stated that the Death Seed didn't amp Sentry's power, just made his mind stable in a warped way. Base Sentry cooks Base Thor 99% of the time.
@@wulaeofthetengu8336But the ones that whooped base Thor were Merged Void, Merged Sentry and Horseman of Apocalypse Sentry/Death Seed Sentry. All of them were indeed amped from their usual forms.
@@HeihachiMishima48 Merged void and Sentry is the same thing. Same person. Only death seed is really different
@@nielsfrederiksen6636 No they're not. That's like saying Rune King Thor, Gaeaforce Thor and Odinforce are the same as Thor, clearly there's a difference in power. Unless you meant that their alter egos are the same, then that would be correct because both are Robert Reynolds.
@TheMasterofDisaster48 How are they different? Sentry in Siege #1 is the same as in #4. He just lost control to the void. He is still the same person. No one gave him more power
4:15 That eldritch monster is Merged Void. The human shadowy looking Void is actually normal Void. The Sentry, The Void and Thor are equals according to Marvel's hierarchy. So that would mean Meged Sentry and Merged Void are superior to Thor. That's why Thor needed the Odinforce to finish Merged Void off.
And if you combine gold with black you get dark red. Hence the red aura both merged forms have. This something the illustrators did a good job on.
Could you share a screenshot of this hierarchy
@@AndreyDope You serious?
@TheMasterofDisaster48 You can post on your community
Hell yeah
No te preocupes, siempre chingan cada personaje, en especial a Thor. Y luego con Sentry, lo chingaron con Sentry Fusionado, supuestamente el más poderoso que ha sido.
Debe haber una pelea entre el Thor actual (con el poder de Zeus) contra Sentry Fusionado.
Sin embargo, tenemos pocos logros sobre este wey.
Disfruta tu Thanksgiving, no quiero tamales hoy 😂 mejor pozole o enchiladas suizas 😊
igualmente mi amigo ! Ojala que te toco unas enchiladas suizas jaja :D
Sentry reminds me of a failed Version of Z Broly.
Both are portrayed as the strongest and glazed hard in there own series, but the plot will always hold them back for the sake of another story going on. But at least with Z Broly they try to keep that "strongest image" going in a somewhat consistent manner cause he rarely jobs to anyone after his movie appearances, while Sentry is always making me question what the writers want to do with him cause they portray him as a top 1 unbeatable monster into a street level jobber and blame it on his mental problems or a stepping stone for other powerful threats like Knull etc.
The writers need to decide what they want from Sentry
Wait i'm confused, hasn't broly Jobbed *within* his movies? I remember people being in uproar over the bio Broly thing at least. I definitely think not everyone is pn board with how strong sentry ought to be regardless.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Wouldn't say jobbed, more like they ruined his image with Bio Broly, but Bio Broly was beating up the SSJ kids, but still didn't mean much
They do indeed need to figure out what to do with him. In a way I guess they did, he's gone now sadly.
@@FernandoComicsOfficial If I know anything about fiction, its that "death" never really applies to anyone who has popularity lol
Are you gonna respond to that king lion guy? He needs to be grounded again
Honestly, Sentry wanting to die is meaningless, cause Thor still had to kill him.
Thats like saying Galactus at his most powerful wanting to die, Yeah but you still need the power to kill him.
Btw Great Vid Fernando, thanks for stay unbiased and gave both sides a fair shake.
He was in a weakened state though and didn't even fully transform back into the void though.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 did it say he wasnt fully void?, After he became robert again just before he said kill me?
@@akshaaynair7912 Well Fernando forgot to mention that Brian Michael bendis the writer of siege came out and confirmed that the Void or Bob allowed Thor to kill him. There's a reason why he remained within the sun regenerating and dying repeatedly.
Actually Thor only killed him because he wanted to die. His power also depends on Bob's will, which the Void called a weakness and hated. Because Bob wanted to die, it made their overall power level low enough for Thor to kill them.
I'll try to get the comic issue that said it.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 sigh Bendis, of course its Bendis
Idk if you remember me but my name used to be Chemical
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Chemical Z ! Of course I remember you bro! New channel?
@FernandoComicsOfficial nah I just renamed this one lol well that's crazy that you remember! It was some good times back then man
It seems that KIB is still a sensitive topic for Sentry fans, but when other authors use characters in a disrespectful way to hyping him there is no problem. What an insufferable fanbase lol
Guess that whole thing with molecule man was out of pocket and never went anywhere, and that ultron fight was horrid, but anything with knull is just lame in general.
1000 percent on the Thor Killed Void. Sentry wanted to die and if you accept that the void is “another” and not Sentry, then it’s clear THOR single handedly killed Void.
The Void isn't another though. Both Sentry and Void are Bob. Hell, in Siege when Bob asks Thor to kill him and turns into Void to force him, Void literally screams for Thor to do it.
@wulaeofthetengu8336 Void is no longer part of Sentry now, though. It was always a part of Knull to begin with, which he imbued in Sentry. I forgot why exactly 😅
@@wulaeofthetengu8336why do y'all always act like because sentry asked to be killed after he literally lost control of his own powers, it somehow means he's now less powerful than he was a minute ago? dude if you stand there and ask me to punch you, even without you offering any resistance, i still have to be comparable to you in strength or even stronger than you to be able to knock u out. i mean if simply screaming kill me weakened him, why didn't Spider-Man or any of the other avengers do it?? also with what happened in KING IN BLACK it is clear as day that the void is a an entirely different entity to sentry. yeah retcon is a b#tch but it is what it is 😂
@@thundererswrath2185 Not true, Fernando forgot to mention that bendis himself came out and confirmed that the only reason why Thor was able to kill him was because Bob allowed him to. He could have just resurrected again and killed thor if he still wanted to fight but he chose to die.
@@ThorGoatinson No Knull and Void have no connection within the lore.
Yes i am tired of buncha people saying sentry wanted to die 😫
you get me bro !
Sentry is more powerful but he is also on Hyperion's demeanour, bad writing for a character out of place, he never has a run that doesn't ends soon and he has potential but never pays off, also The Void seems to be the real deal not Sentry.
Void and Sentry are the same person. Both are Bob
@@wulaeofthetengu8336they are literally not according to KING IN BLACK.
@@Tecnofanbooyhorrible story
That first Thor win just knocked him away briefly before he came back. That was only a piece of their Siege fight. I wouldn't call that a dub. The second Thor win wasn't really Thor winning. It was Bob allowing him to win. Come on now. That's obvious by both Bob and Void telling Thor to kill him.
does him asking to be killed now means Spider-Man or daredevil can kill him ?? you don't seem to understand that in that particular state ( void ) sentry himself has basically lost all control.....he can't do anything to the void hence he was literally screaming for help ( end me before i destroy everything ) but you still need someone on his level to be able to pull that off. that a concrete wall can't defend itself doesn't mean you can be able to punch through it. stop this bias reasoning 😂😂
@@Tecnofanbooy Yes, it actually might mean Spider-Man or Daredevil can kill him.
@@samalexander2712 LMFAO. this argument has started to circle. it would go nowhere so point to continue. 👋
@@Tecnofanbooy Lol I don't think you know what circle means but ok.
These are the dumbest arguments ever tbh
Void clearly took over and tried to kill thor lmao
I never really liked Sentry
You forgot the Thor fanboy force
O hater é o maior fã mesmo. Tu sempre tá dando engajamento em um canal que aparentemente odeia kkkkk
@@Matt-ji9hjso falo fatos
Ele é fanboy
Bannerincrediblehulk mostra quando Hulk perde e vence
E tu pelo jeito é outro fanboy ridículo
@LeandroCaioBorges Mas a conta do Banner é fanboy discarado kkkkkk agora eu entendi o seu choro
know this
In most of these fights sentry was amped, in base form thor one shots him (as it can be seen in the video). And thor didn't use his most potent attack god blast which can one shot sentry.
bahaha, see I knew it Leandro. Even when Thor loses, you're not happy. You are toxically attracted to my videos, and I'm all here for it.
Sentry is overrated af I dont miss him
Realistically, Thor doesn't stand a chance against Sentry in a logically written scenario
LMAO
Why not?
Complete Sentry vs Thor presently, with the Zeus belt, ect.
Who ya got winning that one, Fernando?
I'm taking Sentry.
He smacked Tjir and Cap. Marvel away like they were flies.
First of all, did we all read the same comics?? why do y'all assume that thor is now AMPED with Zeus power when he is literally not even using it? he can't use that power ( at least not currently ) because it will corrupt him the same way it did to Zeus. there's a reason he turned it into a belt.
secondly, captain marvel is a non factor in the comics. don't buy into her MCU hype. she's not remotely on the level of sentry and thor in the comics, like not even remotely close.
lastly, sentry's last battle with thor was when he was merged sentry. they went toe to toe with each other before sentry was subdued. but it was a low showing for sentry since he fought with golden thor. a less powerful version of thor. if they are written correctly, current thor would beat him mid difficulty. but it won't be a marvel story if thor odinson is not jobbing 😂😂😂😂
@@Tecnofanbooy Nah i dont see thor beating merged sentry if he's written correctly, you also didn't mention how merged sentry was weakened when he fought the agents of wakanda so much so street level characters were doing as much damage to him as King thor was. The belt does grant power btw, it resisted Loki's story magic and enchantresses.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 he wasn't weakened at all. fat cobra literally stated that reality was warping around him. i think what you meant to say was that fat cobra's chi was messing with his powers. and that's not king thor that fought him. that was that weak golden arm jason Aaron's thor. same thor that hulk broke his jaw with one punch. same hulk in that same page couldn't even knock captain america out. and he still went toe to toe with merged sentry. that's why i said in my previous comment that it was a LOW SHOWING for sentry.
but thor with the full measure of the Odinforce would win. merged sentry wasn't all that.
yes the belt grants him PROTECTION against SKALD MAGIC but folks out here acting like he's using it's full powers stacked on top the Odinforce when it's literally not true.
@@Tecnofanbooy No he was mentally unstable Fernando even mentioned it in the video, Read up on sentry and you'll learn that his power is tied to his mental state and in that story he had no idea what was going on around him. No that was King Thor that sentry fought he didn't have his golden arm go back and look it was the destroyer arm that he had in war of realms and he had Mjonir in that issue as well. How do you know he isn't using its power when he shaped it to enhance him in the form of a belt?
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 not you telling me to read up on a character that 100% up to date with. 😭😭. he wasn't mentally unstable dude. sentry only becomes mentally unstable when he's in disagreement with the void. the whole point of merged sentry was that he has finally reconciled with the void and accepted who he is. merged sentry and death seed sentry are the only version of sentry that his powers doesn't depend on his confidence. also again THATS NOT KING THOR. and by that, i mean thor with the Odinforce. and he still literally had that arm in that fight. I'm beginning to think you never read that story and your argument is heavily influenced by what you see here 😂