I wish they had showed the intel vs the G5 and old intel xeon it beat for that editing demo that the G5 beat it out right at to show intel performance progress with those new intel cpu's they were using in the mac shame they gave up on that sort of thing sadly
The term cheap is misused a lot. Affordable means pricing a product at a reasonable rate that is cut under the suggested retail price. Cheap means buying a product with low quality material with a price usually half of the compared product. Something that is cheap is inferior in material.
I am so happy with my Mac Pro 2009 4.1. I have flashed it to 5.1, upgraded to dual 5690's with 128 GB of RAM, 2 TB NVME Drive running Monterey via Open Core Legacy Patcher, RX580 Graphics card and twin 8 TB Drives in a RAID 1 setup that I use as my Plex Server. It is my Desktop and Server in one package . . . I could not want anything more.
I have had mine since 2008 and these machines are the best on the market. I used to switch out my old PC every year and a half. The MAC PRO is a monster.
"Apple makes the best computers, but they are usually more expensive... That is a myth we are going to continue to beat out and bust..." Well, it's a myth no more. It's true. With Tim Cook in charge, Apple sells computers with last year's specs at next year's prices, with dongles.
wwbdwwbd Agreed,back then apple products are actually affordable and really good with gorgeous design.Nowadays apple products are mostly have aluminum designwhich is boring and overpriced.
wwbdwwbd I was talking about back then. And to be fair, the "trash can" Mac Pro did have premium hardware when it was new and was actually reasonably priced.
@William Colton They were much better designed 10 years ago, not as many issues, they also cared about the consumer and not 100 percent all about money like they are today. When steve jobs past away, a part of apple past away.
@@RashadSaleh92 Actually, given your reply, I can make the assumption that you're an apple sheep drone, which means that YOU are in fact a stupid person. Funny, huh?
Look Into It Are you a kid or something? Steve jobs always got complaints about how expensive their products were compared to the competition. Nothing changed. Infact they never had cheap products like the $329 iPad or the $399 iPhone. The macbook air costed over $1500 when steve was around. Now its only $999.
that same machine can actually be upgrade to 128GB memory I believe, and 6 hard ssd drives, plus there are 3 open pcie slots for pcie ssds, or other pcie card.
This is easily the greatest computer in a tower form factor ever made. If you disagree you haven't owned one, I miss my old 2006 Mac Pro so much, one day I will find a 12 core final version.
Mac users don't care about LEDs, trust me. I have 2 Mac Pros and they are simply perfect enclosures and they are silent especially with SSDs. These machines are bar none the best desktop machines ever made.
What can I say about that, I went to the Graphic Lyceum and there stands or stood a bunch of APPLE computers even a great Powermac. I hope there are now new ones, like I-Macs. Thanks and kind regards.
If they had just kept the old aluminum case and left the GPU choices to us! I'm editing 4K video with my 2009 cheese grater every day using proxies, and it ingests in almost real-time because I was able to put a modern GPU into it.
Too bad it's not serviceable. Seriously. It's a pro product used for real work. Most places have technicians on staff to repair stuff. Not possible in that trashcan. You can get a PC with the same specs for cheaper.
AK GaminG to be fair the cheese grater and pro display are one of the best computers on the market for pro users, and there are probably 3rd party stands you can buy.
Rewatching this after the 2022 spring event. Sure steve would be moved that such a long Partnership will finally come to an end with the Mac Pro performing the apple silicon transition this summer.
Crazy to think at this time 2006 Apple was a computer company. One year later, they revolutionized the cellphone forever. Just a few years later, they’re known primarily as a smartphone company, and their computers took a backseat. I hope they get back to their computer roots soon. I don’t hate their modern (2015-now) computers, but they really put more into their computers in the early 2000’s
Being an owner of a 2006-07 machine, I'll tell you it's still a high end machine that can handle any ML any day. It's all about apple wanting you to buy new hardware. Also, on a side note, I believe SL (snow leopard) is the best Mac OS yet.
a 2006 Mac Pro with the original config is still usable today as well. Just put something like a Radeon HD 5870 in it, and maybe an SSD and you're good. There are patchers out there to make this system run OS X El Capitan as well.
LordDavid04 Yeah, by that much. You surely don’t understand the potential of this tower and who are the professionals that may take advantage of it. For the stand, you don’t have to take it, you can just get a the other VSA and attach it to the wall, or get a VSA support. I’m not saying it’s worth the money but I can tell you that I have a friend of mine whose job is to check, try and order piece of equipment for various companies and you have no idea of how many supports and stands break because they’re cheaply made. The stand, like any Apple product, is for the long run.
not thinking of inflation and the fact that even though the one we get now is better, its still not that many times improved over the next best pc thing
When Apple discontinues support for devices like…the first iPad, that made sense. The iPhone 3GS IS actually more capable of running iOS 6 than the first iPad is because they both have the same amount of RAM, and most of that RAM and graphics power is going to powering that display on the iPad, iPhone 3GS has a much smaller display. Them including things like LaunchPad are things you don't necessarily have to use, they're just there. Personally, I like it, and find it more efficient.
Round garbage can case thats funny i am looking to buy a used mac pro from 2008 and its more customizable with 8 or more cores the highest core i ever had is a i7 dual core
yes i understand but mac is more compatible with mac os x i have tried using a pc it worked pretty good but used macs are cheap these days and i could get a profit from upgrading it my self
+richard konsky Problem is MacOS Sierra won't just work on a 2008 Mac Pro thanks to Apple dropping support. You have to mod it to make it boot, but at least it's still a real Mac and doesn't require a boot loader like a Hackintosh.
***** It doesn't have Mac firmware and will require a bootloader nonetheless. I do recommend +richard konsky goes with a 2009 4,1 or 2010 5,1 at a minimum (4,1 can be easily flashed to a 5,1 and upgraded with the same components).
that same machine can actually be upgrade to 128GB memory I believe, and 6 hard ssd drives, plus there are 3 open pcie slots for pcie ssds, or other pcie card.
Ten years after I get to watch this again, just as Apple IRL releases the new Mac Pro. Well, look mamma, they turned my cheese grater-look a like into a real cheese grater!
It's hilarious how proud they were to announce they swapped all of their products over to Intel processors. 14 years later, aaaand... look how that's going.
Creo que el DIMM DDR2 ECC estándar de 667MHz completamente amortiguado debería estar bien después de la actualización del procesador. Eso es lo que estoy usando. Supongo que podrías usar RAM más rápido, pero no creo que veas muchos beneficios.
Yeh it's just like... When I first upgraded to SL I was in awe of it being streamlined and 64-bit and properly coded and without ancient univeral packages etc etc. It made sense to upgrade. Now, while ML could still be as good I guess, there's nothing making me hyped about it. It's like, I might just upgrade to not feel I'm running an old OS, other than that no real interest at all.
That depends on your definition of "Pro". The iMac Pro is soon to be another non modular future relic like the trash can in the eyes of people like me who require multiple upgradable GPUs, and swap-able internal drives (rather than all the external drives all over the place, like in a trash can environment). I know Apple has plans for a modular Mac Pro, perhaps then we'll see something that's actually a step forward for serious power users. The iMac Pro is a great alternative for people who were already pushing the limits of a regular iMac at work, and absolutely have to have another Mac at any cost. Granted even for pros, I'm certain some will have to remortgage their home to get their hands on the "modular" machine coming.
Bought one 7 days ago fully loaded, 16gb ram, 2gb harddrive, upgraded video card, Mac OX 10.6.8, for $100. I time traveled, I now own the world's slowest computer that is fun to drive.
"our products are more affordable, the myth that apple products are more expensive is just a myth we are going to bust".... wish that stayed true for the latest mac pro :
It is still true. The Mac Pro 2019 starts at $6K while the HP Z8 G4 costs above $8K. At the high end, it costs only $53K while the HP Z8 G4 and the Dell Precision 7920 cost over $100K.
thank you for the show, but why we can't use quadro fx 4500 on mac pro 1.1 or 2.1 anymore? after the upgrade de system, nowaday people are looking for the solution all over the internet, but non could go back the look like old days, even use the original rom, while the card is still performence today, it's really a pity.
TH-cam's been very strange with notifying me with my responses. I guess the difference with Mountain Lion is you get certain things like iCloud and the new Messages app which syncs with iMessage. Also, going back to your previous point, the Mac Pro hack doesn't give you graphics acceleration, an untenable situation for OS X ML which depends so heavily on them. NVIDIA are the ones who stopped providing driver support for that old graphics card. So, this isn't Apple's fault.
I bought one of these in 2018. The OS was locked so I couldn't do anything with it, so I tore the machine apart and built an ATX system inside. If only I knew I could wipe the drive and do a fresh install from a USB drive, I would've done that instead. I regret putting a beautiful machine in its grave.
I just looked it up again, you're right, they only go up to Lion. The 2008 one officially supports Mountain Lion. Oh well, still a good run, 2006-2012 being officially supported.
How much extra did they charged for the Quadro 4500 x back then? I think it has reached the 3 k € line with this upgrade. So that would be just 400 $ less
@bathellfire no chance of new imacs or macbook pros(at least design wise) they upgraded the processors and my thoughts are it will be all about iphone and ipad. im excited to see the 4.0 on ipad
I always used Apple Macs because they worked beautifully and they were ahead of the game, but know they care more about the iPhones than the rest of their products and now their new Mac books are using slower SSDs and the same old keyboards. Apple now care about profits and using the same old designs year in and year out. hopefully like Apple of old, there will be a new Steve Jobs and his friends in there backroom working on the next cutting edge of design and Apple will be the next IBM and Blackberry slowly fading from their golden age of experience and design for there customers and be just another computer hardware company trying to be famous again.
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"Not only do we make better products, but they're also more affordable."
RIP Apple 2006.
Fuck tim cook
@@elliotharrington8525 ah ah 😂😂
@@elliotharrington8525 Tim Cock*
it was a lie back then too. they compared a geforce with a quadro, which would have more than made up the $1k difference.
the new mac pro is a shame
can you believe just 1 year later they would introduce the iPhone
nope
yes
maybe
sometimes
C-c-combo breaker
Remember when 3 GHz dual core was amazing?
Remember when 16GB of DDR2 677mhz was the toppest top end expensive memory you could get…
@@HouseOfFunQM Don't forget 2 terabytes of total system storage with 4 separate drives.
@@HouseOfFunQM Yeah, that was 2005, honestly feels just like yesterday.
Schiller 2006: let's debunk the "Apple is expensive" myth
Apple 2020: 700 dollar wheels...
999*
@@tyx12420 The wheel is 700. The 999 is the stand
Hey those are top notch wheels. Wheels that cost half the cost of my car wheels for a computer that costs half the cost of the car
@@devaraft isn't it about time someone took a stand for better pricing on Mac accessories? 🤣
They are 400 dollars! GET A PAIR OF FUCKING EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😡🖕🏻
Remember watching this when I was in high school. Amazing to see both these monumental transitions happen.
I wish they had showed the intel vs the G5 and old intel xeon it beat for that editing demo that the G5 beat it out right at to show intel performance progress with those new intel cpu's they were using in the mac shame they gave up on that sort of thing sadly
I like it how they consistently avoid the word "cheap" in all their presentations :)
Алексей Гриднев That’s cause the word “cheap” has a bit of a negative connotation when you’re talking about electronics.
The term cheap is misused a lot. Affordable means pricing a product at a reasonable rate that is cut under the suggested retail price. Cheap means buying a product with low quality material with a price usually half of the compared product. Something that is cheap is inferior in material.
They could have used “cheap” to describe the Dell’s cheap and flimsy enclosure
I am so happy with my Mac Pro 2009 4.1. I have flashed it to 5.1, upgraded to dual 5690's with 128 GB of RAM, 2 TB NVME Drive running Monterey via Open Core Legacy Patcher, RX580 Graphics card and twin 8 TB Drives in a RAID 1 setup that I use as my Plex Server. It is my Desktop and Server in one package . . . I could not want anything more.
I don’t even know how that’s possible. So you’ve replaced the mobo?
@@leeartlee915 It has a slide out CPU tray and I replaced the previous tray with the new one . . .
"up to 16gb memory"
"up to 4tb hard drive"
People: "Woooo.... Woooo...."
I feel like time traveler 😂
@@test-um6rk it is. Add a SSD, latest GPU and Windows 10 and its a fine machine.
Jason Stevens why put Win10 on it? The Gen1 Mac Pro can still run High Sierra and even Mojave with a better GPU
1gb of 667mHz ram
Joko JMC idiot
@@test-um6rk Yes, but the price back then was very expensive compared to today.
I have had mine since 2008 and these machines are the best on the market.
I used to switch out my old PC every year and a half. The MAC PRO is a monster.
If only Apple had this much love for professional, user-upgradeable Macs now in 2018...
2019: hold my beer
@@cheesebusiness 2021: Nah. Hold this.
@@ElderStatesman, hold what?
@@cheesebusiness 2022: mac studio!
@@dustinnrussell mac studio isn't user-upgradable tho
Switching to ARM and Apple Silicon is the greatest decision Apple has ever made. Intel has become the new IBM, a crumbling titan.
"Apple makes the best computers, but they are usually more expensive... That is a myth we are going to continue to beat out and bust..."
Well, it's a myth no more. It's true. With Tim Cook in charge, Apple sells computers with last year's specs at next year's prices, with dongles.
wwbdwwbd Agreed,back then apple products are actually affordable and really good with gorgeous design.Nowadays apple products are mostly have aluminum designwhich is boring and overpriced.
Apple products have never been affordable. They always targeted the premium market with premium hardware at premium prizes.
wwbdwwbd I was talking about back then. And to be fair, the "trash can" Mac Pro did have premium hardware when it was new and was actually reasonably priced.
To be fair, they don't come "with dongles", they cost extra haha
the mac market has been left basicly not effecteted by tim and are still reasonably priced
Still a lovely case design. I can see people swapping in ARM power into this.
This is what a Mac *Pro* should be.
Now, it is
The new Mac Pro 2019.
Currently watching this video on a 2006 Mac Pro... on windows 10 64 bit. :)
And me.
Me too!
@@JasonStevens El Capitan is better than w10 on these machines
Watching this on my mac pro 3,1 on win 7 64 bits (macos high sierra on the other ssd) :p
@@bramvandenbroeck5060 With an 3,1 Mac Pro you can upgrade to Catalina when your Graphics Card ist Metal Supported, with the DosDude 1 Patch. :D
7:50 just wow....how times have changed.
Back in the day when Apple was a computer company.
And not a money printing machine
You are a stupid person.
@William Colton They were much better designed 10 years ago, not as many issues, they also cared about the consumer and not 100 percent all about money like they are today. When steve jobs past away, a part of apple past away.
@@RashadSaleh92 Actually, given your reply, I can make the assumption that you're an apple sheep drone, which means that YOU are in fact a stupid person. Funny, huh?
Look Into It Are you a kid or something? Steve jobs always got complaints about how expensive their products were compared to the competition. Nothing changed. Infact they never had cheap products like the $329 iPad or the $399 iPhone. The macbook air costed over $1500 when steve was around. Now its only $999.
This video is actually from the future. They're announcing the new 2019 MacPro.
who would of thought
U a time traveller
It’s funny cause you’re right.
@@lou603 Exactly.
going from max 16 gigs of RAM, to like 1.5Tb on the new one. damn what 10 years does
But the old cheesegrader was still better. Because nobody will use the 1.5TB for US$ 100K
@@llothar68 may be give it 3 years, when the price slightly went down, ppl will buy it
that same machine can actually be upgrade to 128GB memory I believe, and 6 hard ssd drives, plus there are 3 open pcie slots for pcie ssds, or other pcie card.
100 times more. We will have a Mac Pro with 150TB of RAM in 2035.
J D, will see
This is easily the greatest computer in a tower form factor ever made. If you disagree you haven't owned one, I miss my old 2006 Mac Pro so much, one day I will find a 12 core final version.
There are now much better cases from Lian Li and they have RGB leds everywhere and a window
Mac users don't care about LEDs, trust me. I have 2 Mac Pros and they are simply perfect enclosures and they are silent especially with SSDs. These machines are bar none the best desktop machines ever made.
Sir you are getting a thumbs down for your RGB comment. Its not always about fancy lights. :P
There's the 2012 Mac Pro (last before the trash can), it is a pretty similar.
8:55 people say Apple makes great computers that are too expensive. And that’s a myth we’re gonna continue to bust.
Fast forward to today
What can I say about that, I went to the Graphic Lyceum and there stands or stood a bunch of APPLE computers even a great Powermac. I hope there are now new ones, like I-Macs. Thanks and kind regards.
The new Mac Pro 2019 is still cheaper than other comparable Windows workstations like the Dell Precision 7920 and HP Z8 G4.
Aaahhhh, back in the day before apple made fancy 12-core trash cans that can edit 4k video........
If they had just kept the old aluminum case and left the GPU choices to us! I'm editing 4K video with my 2009 cheese grater every day using proxies, and it ingests in almost real-time because I was able to put a modern GPU into it.
Too bad it's not serviceable. Seriously. It's a pro product used for real work. Most places have technicians on staff to repair stuff. Not possible in that trashcan. You can get a PC with the same specs for cheaper.
ay man its all good now in 2019 we got a huge cheese grater this is awesome yall should come check this out we even got a whole stand for only 999
AK GaminG to be fair the cheese grater and pro display are one of the best computers on the market for pro users, and there are probably 3rd party stands you can buy.
@@harshamatta3225 Nope there aren't any third party stands. The only stand for the Pro Display XDR is the Pro Stand.
Still a great solid machine in 2017. Got El Capitan on mine and it works great!
How about the Mac Pro 2019?
@@atisbasakprobably not in 2017, eh?
2006: Every Mac comes with the great Intel chips!
2020: Let’s kick out Intel and build in M1 chips!
Si.
Rewatching this after the 2022 spring event. Sure steve would be moved that such a long Partnership will finally come to an end with the Mac Pro performing the apple silicon transition this summer.
Watching this in 2020 still gets me excited
Nice show. It make my want 2006-2010 Mac Pro.
Crazy to think at this time 2006 Apple was a computer company. One year later, they revolutionized the cellphone forever. Just a few years later, they’re known primarily as a smartphone company, and their computers took a backseat.
I hope they get back to their computer roots soon. I don’t hate their modern (2015-now) computers, but they really put more into their computers in the early 2000’s
M1 and M2 chips got ya covereddd
One year prior to this video, they had just changed their company name to just "Apple, Inc.". Before that, they were known as "Apple Computer, Inc."
Being an owner of a 2006-07 machine, I'll tell you it's still a high end machine that can handle any ML any day. It's all about apple wanting you to buy new hardware. Also, on a side note, I believe SL (snow leopard) is the best Mac OS yet.
9:47 "Hey baby I want one" "........Sure you have it"
a 2006 Mac Pro with the original config is still usable today as well. Just put something like a Radeon HD 5870 in it, and maybe an SSD and you're good. There are patchers out there to make this system run OS X El Capitan as well.
Cant believe affordability was actually a part of Apples Marketing at one point xD
Gave me many years of joy
8:30 I like how they compare a Quadro vs a reg GPU and match prices....
That Quadro was a low end one. It was only a little more expensive than the Geforce 7300 GT.
Well i can throw bunch of these processor in the dustbin now. But sure time flies .. It was a pipe dream to have this configuration at that time.
TWO DUAL CORE CHIPS AND UP TO 16GB? Guys, I think this one will be a game changer
Can’t wait for them to do this again for Apple Silicon
Apple Silicon transition took nearly 3 years. Props to Steve Jobs and the engineers back then.
And with the Mac Pro becoming the sucks Apple Silicon Product. While long time ago Mac Pro becoming the best..
2006 Mac Pro start at 2499$ but new 2019 Mac Pro start 8K wow
Madison love show well that’s a helluva machine dude, it obviously should cost more
@@yellow13_ But by that much? And they charge you extra for the stand if you get the new monitor?
LordDavid04 Yeah, by that much. You surely don’t understand the potential of this tower and who are the professionals that may take advantage of it.
For the stand, you don’t have to take it, you can just get a the other VSA and attach it to the wall, or get a VSA support. I’m not saying it’s worth the money but I can tell you that I have a friend of mine whose job is to check, try and order piece of equipment for various companies and you have no idea of how many supports and stands break because they’re cheaply made. The stand, like any Apple product, is for the long run.
not thinking of inflation and the fact that even though the one we get now is better, its still not that many times improved over the next best pc thing
now they've almost transitioned completely to their own processors with only the Mac pro to go
I'm watching this keynote now and man, they really did bust that myth with the new Macbook.
2006: Let's bust the myth that apple is expensive
2018: top macbook pro costs 7000$
When Apple discontinues support for devices like…the first iPad, that made sense. The iPhone 3GS IS actually more capable of running iOS 6 than the first iPad is because they both have the same amount of RAM, and most of that RAM and graphics power is going to powering that display on the iPad, iPhone 3GS has a much smaller display.
Them including things like LaunchPad are things you don't necessarily have to use, they're just there. Personally, I like it, and find it more efficient.
the specs that were once considered for a high end workstation can now be found in a 900$ ultra thin laptop
They were ahead of their time
2006: 4 hard drive bays
today: none
2006: 2 optical drive bays
today: none
2006: 4 PCIe slots
today: none
2006: $2,499
today: $2,999
Sometimes, I don't know what Apple was thinking with that trash can.
Round garbage can case thats funny i am looking to buy a used mac pro from 2008 and its more customizable with 8 or more cores the highest core i ever had is a i7 dual core
yes i understand but mac is more compatible with mac os x i have tried using a pc it worked pretty good but used macs are cheap these days and i could get a profit from upgrading it my self
+richard konsky Problem is MacOS Sierra won't just work on a 2008 Mac Pro thanks to Apple dropping support. You have to mod it to make it boot, but at least it's still a real Mac and doesn't require a boot loader like a Hackintosh.
***** It doesn't have Mac firmware and will require a bootloader nonetheless. I do recommend +richard konsky goes with a 2009 4,1 or 2010 5,1 at a minimum (4,1 can be easily flashed to a 5,1 and upgraded with the same components).
Well trashcan speaks for itself what they were thinking. Res Ipsa Loquitor my friend
7:25 happy laugh or sarcastic laugh?
That was Steve Jobs.
It sounds like someone that just purchased their PowerMac G5 a month ago.
that same machine can actually be upgrade to 128GB memory I believe, and 6 hard ssd drives, plus there are 3 open pcie slots for pcie ssds, or other pcie card.
Ten years after I get to watch this again, just as Apple IRL releases the new Mac Pro.
Well, look mamma, they turned my cheese grater-look a like into a real cheese grater!
rip mac pro
This is very good mac pro with awsome design and this is cheaper than other pc(only 2006 mac pro )
I really like Phill, he’s just nice.
Bought one last night on craigslist for $75 with OSX Lion. It will be my media server for all my blu rays and music.
The youtube algorithm has blessed us again
Maxed out Mac Pro is almost as expensive as it gets. You could get a premium car for that price!
Hey do you have your premium car now ?
apple silicon transition has almost been 3 years😬
It's hilarious how proud they were to announce they swapped all of their products over to Intel processors. 14 years later, aaaand... look how that's going.
This is the machine that revolutionized the industry.
Tremendous performance/Watt.
This is visionary. This is absolutely it, 16 years later. Performance/Watt.
What
Still using a 2007 MacPro 2.1 8-Core with 32GB of RAM, more than 12 TB of Hard Drive/SSD space and Mac OS X Yosemite. Just runs smooth...
Came here in 2019, Apple just introduced the new Mac Pro up to 28 Cores and up to 1.5 TB of MEMORY RAM!! Not storage, RAM!!! Holy sheit!!!!!!😲
Yep!
And its super affordable.
Remember when the Mac Pro wasn’t 20,000 dollars
7:48 APPLE PLEASE WATCH THIS!
8:10 Well, the Dell had a Quadro 550 in it which was WAY more expensive than a 7300 GT.
No it was low end Quadro which was about the same as the Geforce 7300 GT.
$2499. sheesh. $5999 now. Thanks Tmmay
Looking forward to tomorrow, fellas.
210 days for the entire PowerPC lineup to change to Intel. How many for Intel to Apple Silicon?
Inflation adjusted that’s a base price of like $7500 in today’s dollars.
Creo que el DIMM DDR2 ECC estándar de 667MHz completamente amortiguado debería estar bien después de la actualización del procesador. Eso es lo que estoy usando. Supongo que podrías usar RAM más rápido, pero no creo que veas muchos beneficios.
I built a custom PC inside this tower…
3090 RTX
Ryzen 9 5900X
64GB 3600 DDR4 RAM
2 1TB M.2 SSDs
1000w power supply
Absolutely love it!
Poor mac pro. Those later ones still hang in strong when in usability😢
It's been a long time since Apple could double performance while reducing the price by one-fourth. How much is a new Mac Pro in 2020?
The new Mac Pro is expensive but it's well worth the price. Other workstations with similar specs are even more expensive.
8:11 When Apple still making cheaper and better solutions..
Lol 2018 and this in 2009
Yeh it's just like... When I first upgraded to SL I was in awe of it being streamlined and 64-bit and properly coded and without ancient univeral packages etc etc. It made sense to upgrade. Now, while ML could still be as good I guess, there's nothing making me hyped about it. It's like, I might just upgrade to not feel I'm running an old OS, other than that no real interest at all.
You could at least not lie about who edited it... Apple did, by the way.
I like to look back to see how much we advance.
Sadly Apple went backwards with the MacPro after 2012.
That depends on your definition of "Pro". The iMac Pro is soon to be another non modular future relic like the trash can in the eyes of people like me who require multiple upgradable GPUs, and swap-able internal drives (rather than all the external drives all over the place, like in a trash can environment). I know Apple has plans for a modular Mac Pro, perhaps then we'll see something that's actually a step forward for serious power users. The iMac Pro is a great alternative for people who were already pushing the limits of a regular iMac at work, and absolutely have to have another Mac at any cost. Granted even for pros, I'm certain some will have to remortgage their home to get their hands on the "modular" machine coming.
Bought one 7 days ago fully loaded, 16gb ram, 2gb harddrive, upgraded video card, Mac OX 10.6.8, for $100. I time traveled, I now own the world's slowest computer that is fun to drive.
"our products are more affordable, the myth that apple products are more expensive is just a myth we are going to bust".... wish that stayed true for the latest mac pro :
It is still true. The Mac Pro 2019 starts at $6K while the HP Z8 G4 costs above $8K. At the high end, it costs only $53K while the HP Z8 G4 and the Dell Precision 7920 cost over $100K.
Watching from my Mac Pro 2009 :)
Is the new MacBook Air’s low watt cpu is faster than this dual core Xeon cpu?
thank you for the show, but why we can't use quadro fx 4500 on mac pro 1.1 or 2.1 anymore? after the upgrade de system, nowaday people are looking for the solution all over the internet, but non could go back the look like old days, even use the original rom, while the card is still performence today, it's really a pity.
It’s crazy that phones today can outperform these machines. Then again, they were released almost 20 years ago.
TH-cam's been very strange with notifying me with my responses.
I guess the difference with Mountain Lion is you get certain things like iCloud and the new Messages app which syncs with iMessage.
Also, going back to your previous point, the Mac Pro hack doesn't give you graphics acceleration, an untenable situation for OS X ML which depends so heavily on them. NVIDIA are the ones who stopped providing driver support for that old graphics card. So, this isn't Apple's fault.
...and 3 years earlier in 2003, Steve was hawking how the PowerMac IBM G5 ran circles around the Intel Xeon dual core. ...
10 years later theyve fallen back upon their old ways
I bought one of these in 2018. The OS was locked so I couldn't do anything with it, so I tore the machine apart and built an ATX system inside. If only I knew I could wipe the drive and do a fresh install from a USB drive, I would've done that instead. I regret putting a beautiful machine in its grave.
4:48 comparing this system with the iPad Pro i am typing this on right now is astounding.
I just looked it up again, you're right, they only go up to Lion. The 2008 one officially supports Mountain Lion. Oh well, still a good run, 2006-2012 being officially supported.
Pshh, I’m on Big Sur on mine right now hehe
Hey. The standard one had the graphics card - that with our other PC- we had to buy separately about a year later!
i have it today with a GTX 760 and i can say u that this computer is fcking immortal and powerful again today
I wonder if that Mac Pro can beat an i3 9100f or i3 10100 in 2020
How much extra did they charged for the Quadro 4500 x back then? I think it has reached the 3 k € line with this upgrade. So that would be just 400 $ less
Phil just can't capture the magic the same way Steve could. Even back then
I know. Especially since these particular Mac Pros are STILL very much supported on OS X Mountain Lion. Support for the G5s died a while back. :P
Watching this in 2020, I chucked 1 of these in the skip last month because it would no longer boot lol.
Can it work with RTX 2080Ti GPU and 16GB RAM?
up to 64gb ram and can take any nvidia gpus, but slow caches in pcie, cpu and ram will make games to run only 30fps or so XD
Please look up on the net what the difference of Geforce and Quadro is.
@bathellfire no chance of new imacs or macbook pros(at least design wise) they upgraded the processors and my thoughts are it will be all about iphone and ipad.
im excited to see the 4.0 on ipad
7:30 first time on an apple event the people are happy about the price.
I always used Apple Macs because they worked beautifully and they were ahead of the game, but know they care more about the iPhones than the rest of their products and now their new Mac books are using slower SSDs and the same old keyboards. Apple now care about profits and using the same old designs year in and year out. hopefully like Apple of old, there will be a new Steve Jobs and his friends in there backroom working on the next cutting edge of design and Apple will be the next IBM and Blackberry slowly fading from their golden age of experience and design for there customers and be just another computer hardware company trying to be famous again.
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