The Man Who Ate Lunch with Steve Jobs Every Day
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Knowjng what we know about jobs, the fact he held Ives to such high regard is something else. Johnny was literally the second in command because of how much jobs respected him
I’m sure he also chewed him out many times as well. That’s just how Steve Jobs was.
I am not sure you know what "literally" means..
@@Neuri he literally does.
Steve said as much.
and...your point in making this redundant statement is?
@@fitnesspoint2006They were just remarking that Ive was actually a very important part of apple, no need to make such a fuss about it
It's crazy to think where Apple would be right now if Steve was still alive. In 15 years Jony and Steve went from creating the colorful iMac, to the iPod, iPhone & iPad....
It's 13 years since his death, and I can't help but wonder where Apple would be right now had he not passed.
Rest in peace, Steve, you're missed.
Steve would have enjoyed competing with Elon Musk...
I’m not so sure. Apple grew more under Tim than under Jobs. Steve was not an easy person to work with.
And Apple was always about design, when Steve was there. Tim knew and knows that. It’s part of Apple DNA and they made sure it will never be different no matter who is in command.
For sure…Tim Apple had been horrible in comparison
Tim should hire this man back and become more innovative! Case closed.!
Wrong Steve.
I am Indian and never heard about Apple computers 25 years back. When I first moved to the west. I came across this transparent Blue computer called iMac and it was love at first sight. It took me many years to buy one for myself on ebay. Your video brought some happy memories. Very well presented. Thank you so much. Respect
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I bought my first ❤white MacBook in 2008
@@ConservativeAnthem no wonder ur name is conservative
@@raitaluna9142 let’s pay no mind to those ignorant people. They’re not worth your time.
Thanks for sharing... great content, nice editing and soft voice... a perfect mix!!!
Haven't teared up to a youtube video in a while. Thanks for the lovely story.
Design is very powerful
Yikes. Get a grip
@@JQwertyman Boys do cry. Emotions are our power, they are what motivate us. Use them and you will make better change in the world and be happier.
@@wisdomhappy587 it's a TH-cam video about a corporation. Yikes, dude.
Mr Jony Ive and Mr Steve Jobs, LEGENDS
Love your channel, you just keep it so simple and intriguing at the same time... amazing!
With Jony not truly parting with Apple until 2022, I've got to believe that he is responsible for the sleek design of the years-long project we now know as Apple Vision Pro. It's so "Ivy-like".
having used one for a little bit now, you're right. Even Steve had early input since patents for some of the AVP date back to 2007
One special thing about iphones is - they always make your eyes pause even for a second . The phone may be old(eg : a 6s) but they don't look thrasy. Now I know why & how they designed it so well.
Thanks for the information.
Omg so true. Most old tech looks like obsolete garbage, but Apple products are either cutting edge new, or somehow become legacy collectable pieces.
"I admire the way you've crafted this video, especially your heartfelt expression that touched my emotions."
I have always had a passion for design. When I'm out and about I look at something and think why is it designed in a specific way. I love minimalism, beauty and simplicity, but hate clutter. Jony Ive, who used to work for Apple, designed so many iconic products. He is one of the few people in this world I look up to.
hate minimalism. especially in architecture. modern architecture is junk compared to art deco and medieval buildings.
Jonny was supposed to become Apple's CEO
Love your videos. Well thought out and presented. Watched and liked, thanks!
I love this page. Your voice is calm & therapeutic.
Thank you for this video. It was very informative and interesting but also calming and beautiful. They sound like wonderful people, which gives me hope. I study at Newcastle University, I walk through Northumbria every day - I had no idea Jony Ive studied there!
Beautiful vídeo, thanks AND grettings from Perú!
Thank you SO much for this information!
Jobs had the vision, Ive had the design know how, Cook understood the business side.
Unfortunately Apple is now totally focused on the “business “ side selling subscriptions and services
Thank you for this video. really enjoyed the journey of apple, john and steve.
Creative genius was not what set Apple apart. Good ideas come up all the time. The difference was the willingness to follow through on it. The willingness to do things that were different and take risks... to actually let it out into the wild.
true as hell. the company was willing to make profits second to their ingenuity. increasingly rare.
This is the true essence of design. If you don’t bet on it backed by confidence into your vision and follow through it, you will never come close to greatness.
All other companies still fall short when it comes to apple‘s focus on details. Because they only speak about good design they do, but only want to take shortcuts with no passion and conviction.
Honestly, take a look at the hardware inside every Apple device, even a motherboard has even more aesthetics compared to the appeal of competitive products on the outside.
They took a risk and it paid off
But there was also a chance they could have failed. Hence why most companies follow the safe route because it's predictable.
Most companies focus on hard numbers and metrics. Doing X will move revenue by Y. Apple takes a more human-centric approach. Try X and see if we love it, and in turn the users will love it. The money just follows. "Think different"
True. Both of Jony's Apple flops had nice cake that use shit for icing.
Steve Jobs had the special power to make sure art+engineering truly come together.
Excellent video! This is fantastic!
I loved this video soOo much. Thank you.
Was thinking it had been a while since the last Newsthink video... always a welcome sight in my inbox.
Great video. I think in a nutshell an Engineering led company makes great Swiss-Army knives. A Design led company makes the better Butter Knives. Neither is necessarily better but most people don't need a knife that turns into a torque-wrench at the dinner table.
Concepts that will excite people. Love this
This man right here was such a strong inspiration for a lot of my direction professionally.
Thank you for this beautiful video
From what I've heard the German household appliances company Rowenta introduced the translucency design when they launched their Surfline iron series.
But the credit goes to the person who decides to try it on a computer.
@@kimbapslayer1995 I it went to when it started to influence a lot of other designs... I remember after that translucent, everything started to become translucent... computer stuff like USB docks, scanners, printers, but also househould items. It was a real hype. Fortunately it passed again...
great Vid! I remember a lot of the 90s Apple tech. I totally believe Apple will continue to forge the future. Jonny is not the only design genius available to us...
Jon has a mesmerising voice too
Being iPad & iPhone users I can clearly & honestly say that… Apple products are the seamless & rich experience product
Amd equal parts a nightmare to repair
i want a landline and pay phones again. These tech people are in the sabotage business.
I think Braun and others need to be credited for his genius....
I too was disappointed that Dieter Rams was not mentioned.
Braun was mentioned in the first 2 mins … and Braun is commonly credited in ever story about ives
I wish they did too, but I also think ive’s design is also stand alone and amazing
@@Jaime_Romero You know nothing because you are easily swayed in any direction the wind blows. Learn more, son.
I’m more surprised that Samboom, Littlesofties and Google wasn’t mention, all they’ve done is rip off Ives work
It's amazing that four Italian Renaissance artists were also named after the Ninja Mutant turtles. What a coincidence.
If he had stayed the Apple wheel parody would have become the Macbook Air at some point. His efforts on minimisation, started impacting on the practicality of Apples products and the butterfly keyboard he insisted on to save a few millimetres cost apple a fortune in warranty repairs and compensation to customers. From a practicality point of view, the MacBooks were noticeably getting worse on his watch. I think the problem was that Steve Jobs wasn't around to temper his more extreme ideas.
Excellent presentation
Great video 🙏🏾
While he is a creative genius, he also had a fanatic, unpractical side to him, which seemed to get out of control without steve who was very very practical. Like ditching the magsafe, only usb-c, even just one usb-c for some models, for years on the macbooks, was certainly a very sound optical-design decision, but not at all a practical one. Noticed, how this came back around the time they started part ways with Ive?
Imho, Ive and Steve, together, got each other under control. But on his own Ive didn't do much good. imho.
Also, his style is copyable, it will go on.
so we agree that he was human
Great overview of Apple and Joni’s role in designing its flagship products. Well done!
Thank you for the video
Great documwntary, thanks so much
It's like I'm reading a book. Thank you for this documentary.
I miss the exciting live keynotes when Steve was alive. That was something to look forward to so much
At 03:39
Note the Asahi Pentax Spotmatic SLR camera on the desk. This may well be the nicest SLR camera ever. A nice functional design that feels great in your hands.
Very well presented
One of the smoothest transition from the content to the advertisement
Great vid!
Great video! BTW I never knew the "i" stood for Internet until just now (crazy!). I thought it basically just stood for "I" meaning me - the person ... and their connection with the product.
15:18 😢 Literally on tears.. (till the end of the video)
Still have old MacIntosh with 9" black 'n' white screen, together with keyboard , 3.5" floppies, and ImageWriter printer, I have purchased in 1988. Occasionally, I turn it on. Still works. Industrial Art it is.
What a lovely video ✨
I was using Asus convertible multi touch tablet (Model T98) with keyboard came with windows 98 which is way ahead of ipad. But you say, Ipad is the first tablet.
I later upgraded with window 7, with some work around for drivers from a different model.
I rarely watch videos this long unless it's something instructional, like showing me how to convert My Royal Enfield to belt drive :-) But I've always watched all of yours from day one. You've got me hooked. It's technology we all use and I enjoyed seeing where we came from. I'm excited to see we go. Maybe 10TB smaller phones/devices in our pockets with no screens Bluetoothing to our Neuralinking brains. I wonder what Newsthink will be like then? One thing I do know is that I will be downloading you into my brain 🤣
Best "funcional" desig was Magic Mouse2 with its port at the bottom of the mouse and the notch on everything with a screen..
Beautiful documentary ❤
This is a really good fun Apple documentary.
Not too long
Well done 👍
Man, fantastic summary
The wheel from the ipod came from Braun, and their designs
Remember that you are not a legend if you are considered irreplaceable. You are considered a legend when your name lasts forever, and is honoured by the people that are allowed to replace you. Jony is the best designer for Apple, his vision is still echoing through Apple Park.
How would you know what’s echoing at Apple Park?
@@logiseyeit’s like a bong rip, how do you know it still smells? You just do.
The absence of vision and creativity that Steve and Jony only comes once in a lifetime and Apple was blessed. The culture is no more.
Tim Cook destroyed that. So many have of that time have left under Tim Cook. And he has brought in new people who are only interested in making as much money as possible before moving on to another company.
Not knowing this then, apple finally released their newest product after you releasing this video here in Dub Dub and I respect what jony Ive has done with apple in his time and am greatful for his influence with world pivoting products and making them still look good. Some things may not be forever but some are.
Well that last phrase doesn’t apply to Apple lmao instead “some things may not be forever but some these last 5 years”
Ive is/was amazing. And I think he went too far. He kept striving for thinner and thinner designs. This forced electronics designers to compromise the quality of their offerings. Once Ive left, Apple returned to making great computers. They've strayed from Ive's ideals slightly (look at the new MacBook Air - no longer the iconic "wedge" design.) There is a point at which form overcomes function. I'm looking forward to what Ives does in the future - and I'm very interested to see who emerges as his proteges.
An extremely interesting video that told me a lot that I did not know. As an ex pat Brit who has lived in New Zealand for the last 20 years, I still feel proud that Johny is a Brit and has achieved so much. I still prefer Windows over Mac computers, but do have an iPhone and Apple Watch both of which I love, so thank you Johny for giving us such cool tech.
Jony is a rockstar 💎✨
I liked Johnny, but as soon as he left we finally got function over form. I'm loving my Macbook Pro M2 Max 16" that is chunky and with lots of ports. Previously, my Macbooks looked the same for like 10 years and never had enough functional ports and the design stayed...theeee same..... It's like he did 10 minutes of work on each product once every 2 years, shrinking bevels incrementally and taking away something we need. He's gone and I like Apple more now.
But the latest Mac laptops have few ports and minimal memory.
@@michaelwoodbodley8099 I'm always a fan of more ports and memory for sure. I feel really happy with my 16" M2 Max though, feels like a really nice amount of power and I/O. But my last M1 Air was really lacking in I/O.
@@SmartByTravel My 2010 MacBook Pro has a 2 TB Samsung SSD that runs circles around your M2 Max, which is probably restricted to a slower 512 GB SSD. It also has a matte screen that doesn't delaminate like the Retina screens. How is that process?
This video just made me somewhat emotional. I've always looked up to Steve Jobs since I was a teenager. His views on innovation and quality always astounded me. Now, knowing more about Jony and how he played a vital role on where Apple is today, makes me appreciate the company's beginnings a lot more. Not a complete apple fan, but the story and history from which it first began is what draws me to it.
PS. I was a typical teenager who couldnt afford apple products back then, but now as an earning adult, I always pick up apple devices when I opt for quality and simplicity.
Love apple , jony ive & Steve
Welcome the VisionPro.
I wonder how different it would have been if Johnny was at the helm of that.
Needed few lines on Braun design philosophy
Design wins for Apple for me include things like the macsafe power adaptor, which they briefly dropped in 2018 and thankfully brought back with the M1 macbooks; they also put their foot in mouths with a new keys design on the keyboard which they also dropped with the M1 models bring back the original "reliable" mechanisms. I'm glad too that they are starting to move back a bit from the idea that everything needs to be thinner, dare I mention the iPad bendiegate scandal.
As an Apple user for a long time i must say i dont think Apple will innovate without Jonny Ive.
I think even without Steve Jobs. those two just worked seemlessly together and are a gods gifted team.
I honestly hope Steve is proud of what he acheived. and i hope Tim will finally start innovating again becouse we had the same iPhone for 4 years now.
i miss Steve and Jonny
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“Form Follows Function”!
Can you provide some more info on Tangerine ?
Jony and Apple were a perfect fit for one another. Apple hasn’t been the same since he left but he also hasn’t done anything noteworthy since he left.
VisionPro?
@@laurants Maybe finally something. We’ll see. It’s outrageously expensive. If consumers don’t buy it then it didn’t really change anything. Of course Vision Pro didn’t happen until after my comment was made.
@@pulsatingsausageboy2076 Yes, but it took a very long time for something innovative like the VisionPro to come out.
It's been a year, and they kinda keep re-inventing tech. Now they're focused more on improving the hardware than design, which IMO is a good thing.
@@darkwoodmovies Ive has been gone four years. And they always were improving hardware.
I met him once, very nice man and deserves every bit of success he's had.
Yep, this man is irreplaceable!
That's the guy who removes ports and wanted us to us the butterfly keyboard. He definitely reached the end of practical design. Current Macbook Pro's maybe don't look so beautiful, slim as the older ones but they are practical.
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Even though I’ve been a diehard Apple and Macintosh enthusiast and owner because of Steve Jobs’ commitment to excellence and Jonny Ives’ commitment to design-function follows form is just as important as form follows function, I’ve become disenchanted with Tim Cook at the helm, whom I believe has made sales paramount over people and the vision of Jobs and Ives. I believe service has become second to sales. Products become unsupported with too little lapse of time. It has become apparent to me that Apple’s incremental and insignificant changes to products and IOS has blindsided the Apple culture and its followers to believe these are still hurrah moments. I still have my G4. It still works, even though the IOS is very outdated. To me, the design still has that wow effect on me. Hopefully, Apple does not become another Tesla-hype over commitment to excellence, sales over the needs of it’s fan base.
Yep that what happens when you take away creative people. You have money goal focused people in charge of Apple, they could care less about art or anything with deeper meaning
The magic is since long gone. Although the products are still beautiful the level of excitement has drastically gone down. It’s tiny nuances like the handle on a desktop that Made Apple so unique and therefore so exciting. Now it became a race with competition while I believe it used to be a race to excellence, no later what the competition thinks excellence is.
I’m happy with Apple. It’s easy to lose sight of each incremental update but what it is today is way better than years back. Watch iOS history, so much better now. Although I do still run OSX 12 😂
Beautiful...
That very last question, posed by that video is answered with an emphatic yes
The faulty Mac books from 2016-2019 were also Ivy’s design. I personally lost $1000 due to faulty design of Mac books.
"the handle isn't there to carry it".
Designers can be so demented and lost in their own heads. I know, I am one.
Every person that saw that design said, "nice it has a handle to carry it."
But this is the point. The handle made it more approachable because it showed to the user that it could be touched.
@@sterkriger2572 I get that, but since it's not really designed for the function it implies it's more of a trick than a valid design element, and that bothers me as a designer and consumer.
If it LOOKS like a good handle, it should also WORK like one, not just SEEM like one. To me it's a design failure.
I feel misled by the pseudo handle. Not a fan.
@@itsROMPERS... I think people are misinterpreting. The handle works, and it’s pretty strong. It’s just that the idea for a handle didn’t come from a vision of people lugging their desktops around, it came about so that people are compelled to touch it. It working as a handle is secondary, but it does work
@@kideatspaper3618 The first priority for a handle is to carry things, not send a message.
To me that's inferior design.
A lot of companies in the 90s and 2000s came up with a lot of really cool ideas and pushed them to consumers, but many of them just didn't really think things through, or didn't really have the budget to make what could've been a very cool product available.
This is a very good video.
jony ive helped design the iphone 11 pro and apple have been too anxious to change the design ever since 😂💀
Jony Ive took Apple to the next level in many ways, but I think he lost the thread in later years, especially on the MacBooks with this obsession for thinness that wound up generating a few years of really frustrating machines with awful keyboards and bodies stripped of functionality/ports. Genius, yes, but everybody has their achilles heel.
Yep well said.
I think Braun and Dieter RAMs needed to be credtited for every design Jony made
God bless sir Ives, may he be doing really great though minimalism isn't the only design philosophy.
God bless, Rev. 21:4
The man that never ate lunch daily with Steve Jobs, by far outnumber.
fun fact, apple stole some ideas for the ipod's design from a singaporean company known as Creative technology
i believe it was the scrolling wheel. if i am not mistaken they lost the lawsuit as well haha
This is the first time I've heard of Jony.
3 men built apple Steve Jobs Steve was, Johnny I’ve
Without these 3 men there’s no Apple .
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Didn't know he stuied at Northumbria, I went there for undergrad.
Ya, all the ports we wanted were removed... sleek products requiring us to buy multiple outboard devices...
What! He’s probably responsible for removing ports from MacBooks, headphone socket from iPhone. The list goes on.
They were literally flashed down the sink 🤣
Tim Cook can be described as half MBA-driven CEO (sales and engineering) and half creator-startups CEO (design, marketing and R&D) whereas Steve Jobs leaned more towards the creator/upstart side of things. Microsoft suffered under Ballmer, and now under Nadella, they have virtually nothing beyond sales and buying startups for no purpose other than avoid the legwork. Apple will have to 'out-innovate' the market, but it seems they're able to keep iPhone sales ahead through better software and eco-system support and full monotisation rather than coming up with a blue ocean product as they did prior. I honestly thought at the time that the Samsung Galaxy S3 would eat up the iPhone 4 (and it actually did!) Apple was quick to innovate its way out, with Tim Cook, I'm not too sure he could do it.
Remains relatively unknown?? Everyone knows the iconic Sir Jony Ive 😂
I'm just getting to know about him