Who doesn't dude. Asking your crush out? JYP's confidence. Job Interview? JYP's confidence. Gotta speak in front of a group of people? JYP's confidence. Life hits you? Hit back with JYP's confidence.
@@eric24567Istg your comment needs to be in a Tshirt or a motivational poster.😭 The "Hit back with JYP's confidence" line is gold Lmao thanks for the laugh.🤣
i like that you included great vocalists in the “bad/decent”categories to show that even legends can have off days. one performance doesn’t define a singer, which is something kpop stans desperately need to learn.
When people say that belting with good technique makes it boring I always think about Shinee's Jonghyun. He has one of the most stylized vocals I have ever heard and still manages to have a healthy and developed technique
Yes !: This ! He started by mastering the technics before stylising the way he used his voice. His solo discography is really something to listen to, he really did explore the limits of his voice a lot, he was a really ambitious vocalist who deeply loved music and seemed really curious about all he could do. But what is the most striking to me is really his evolution as a vocalist, he's so interesting, he did start as a more technical singer and slowly stylized the way he sang to a point he really became a K-pop vocalist you can't mix with any other
@user-wi5lf2xd2h Yesss! He knew how to do it and realized what worked and what didn't work, I forgot what vid it was but I remember him mentioning how he changes the way he sings often and I've heard vocal coaches say the same thing cuz the way he sings 1 song changed every year
@@アウエン yes! as a singer myself, i do admire and try to learn by listening and analysing his technique! for me jonghyun is a true vocalist artist cuz even when he goes for a more "stylist" sound HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IT WELL AND WITH NO DAMAGE! also jonghyun look up at singers/vocalists and tried to learn it. gosh i love jonghyun and him as an artist and a vocalist. he was a true vocalist
This is why I always say there's a clear distinction between horrible and bad because none of the bad ones were really horrible and some of them weren't that bad to listen to (For the most part)
yep! Resonance does make you feel relaxed when listening to it. Notice how the red ones don’t have any resonance to them. That’s because the singers sang from the throat, instead of from the diaphragm.
I was a little bit confused when you showed Chen as red, because I thought it sounded good. But then you showed him again as green, and difference was crazy! Thanks for this video, and hope you did well on your finals, haha!
Nice now I have a better notion of what belting is. To distinguish the quality of the belting is like having a feeling about the "push". Push "painful" feeling : bad. Push "screamy" feeling : decent. Push "beautiful and lyrical" feeling : Great. Its quite like the voice you hear has a texture value. Spiky for Bad, Grainy for Decent and Soft for Great. And congrats for your finals !
i love how you showed chen in both bad and good belting and with the same note. it shows that this is about technique and not just mindless stan culture who thinks their fave can do no wrong and calls out others needlessly.
belle has such an amazing voice, but i noticed that she usually has to push herself to hit those crazy notes which makes me worried. i hope she protects her voice so that it doesn’t deteriorate :(
i’m really glad you specified this isn’t about good singers vs bad singers and even showed great singers having bad moments! a lot of fans don’t seem to understand that even great vocalists can have their off days, especially in such a gruelling industry.
Chen's best luck notes are one of my favourites. This video made me realise that how even good vocalist can do bad belting sometimes.(Also can someone tell me that what range is chen's drop that note is?)
In Drop That, he sustains an E5 belt at the end although there's a quick-phrased G5 right before. But lmao his part in Drop That has so many belted E5's.
I am so happy to see Luna in this video! She is technically so incredibly good it's insane! Also, if you don't mind me asking? Have you ever listened to Younha? She is a Korean singer and songwriter. She had incredible technique back in the days and supported F5's in her mixed register and despite her voice being so bright and youthful, it was really powerful and amplified in size. :) She was imo one of the best vocalists in Korea back in the days.
I think people are losing perspective recently because we rarely hear idols sing live anymore. It used to be that we regularly heard incredible vocalists from SHINee, snsd, etc, crack or get into trouble on music shows, so people understood that this is normal. Honestly it made the great performances much more thrilling, because you could understand how difficult and rare it is. Now that everything is pre-recorded and heavily processed, I don't even know what half these fourth gen idols really sound like. Choreo has gotten tougher, but I'd personally prefer we went back to the old ways. Just let the main vocalist stand still and sing while the others dance at the climax.
8:54 damn that was a CRAZY belt oh my God! Happy that you did well on your finals (not even surprised tbh)!! Looking forward to your next videos’ ideas (:
I'm seeing a bunch of comments annoyed that there's only idols in this video . Why? This is an educational video about vocal technique and it shouldn't matter who is used as an example. Also maybe the creator has been listening to Kpop more as if recent and at the end of the day this us his channel
@@Rozzness because most people who watch a performance do not care or talk about technique when watching. 😂…..she might be better , but he doesn’t have bad technique. They’re great live performers is the point.
another great video in this series. I am so happy that you have included Bell of Kiss of Life. I notice there are times when Belle sounds great belting and some times she is just really bad. why do you think is causing this inconsistency? what can she do to improve?
I appreciate how you showed some great singers having off moments. It shows they are human. Would love to see you talk about Yonghoon from the band Onewe. He is a great singer, but no one talks about him.
Thanks for showing that you can recognize bad moments for great singers. People like to generalize that a bad performance equates to a bad performer overall. We just have days that are not in our favor. We can slay next time around.
4th gen groups either have the best or most mid vocalists ever. youve got billlie and aespa who are all clearly vocally trained with simpler dances and then you've got groups like newjeans, le sserafim and itzy who are more dance focused. and then youve got nmixx who are jumping up and down while singing. and i'm least a fan of them than all the other groups i mentioned but i gotta hand it to em because that is mind blowinggg
I was realy confident Taeyon will show up in this video and will be green. I wasnt wrong. Btw I dont have any clue of notes and anything shown in this video, yet it was realy entertaining.
if lily opens up her vowels a LIIIITLE more, her notes would be far more resonant and meaty she's got an amazing range, but a very whiny and thin belt her mouth is a great shape, but she needs to release rather than push
belting refers to the thickening of the folds that can not apply above M1 or MX1, so you are right and wrong... MX2 cannot be belted, MX1 could be called "mix belt" because it refers to the "thinner" or thinned version of chest voice
Love your videos! I was wondering if you could look into pentagon's vocal line and also btob (I think you haven't metion them before but I may be wrong), I think there's some gems in those groups and they're rarely talked about :(
Even my guy Chen can has his bad moments too. But seeing him both in bad and good example for the same G#4 is kinda hilarious but also amazing at the same time 😂🤭 He's stunning indeed 🥰
I understand how difficult dance, touring, multiple concerts etc. can impact breathing therefore belting, but there is no reason for a trained voice to do some of the mistakes here. Some have too much confidence (0_o), some too little and some are absolutely not trained to sing.
Super Junior's Leeteuk is mixed as a singer, sometimes he's great and sometimes he's meh, but he actually has one of the best belting techniques around. They did an actual decibel test in SuJu, which has three of the greatest singers in Kpop, and he won. His singing bits in SuJu are few and far between, but he always introduces himself in the MENT of live concerts with a long shout that would create an avalanche if he did it in the Swiss Alps. 😂
"a very confident man indeed" I'M CRYING
had me gone 😂😂😂
When he used him the second time! I too was especially gone😂😂
JYP is vocal good😡😡😡
I love your confidence...HAHAYA
lol….
I need jyp's confidence 🥺
A very confident man indeed
His so cool😍😍
Who doesn't dude. Asking your crush out? JYP's confidence. Job Interview? JYP's confidence. Gotta speak in front of a group of people? JYP's confidence. Life hits you? Hit back with JYP's confidence.
@@eric24567Istg your comment needs to be in a Tshirt or a motivational poster.😭 The "Hit back with JYP's confidence" line is gold Lmao thanks for the laugh.🤣
His voice hasn’t aged like fine wine for sure unfortunately
@@Rozznesscheers
i like that you included great vocalists in the “bad/decent”categories to show that even legends can have off days. one performance doesn’t define a singer, which is something kpop stans desperately need to learn.
Having Chen as the bad example for G#4 and then as the good example for the same note was so funny ashdhasdha
When people say that belting with good technique makes it boring I always think about Shinee's Jonghyun. He has one of the most stylized vocals I have ever heard and still manages to have a healthy and developed technique
this!
THISSSSS
Yes !: This ! He started by mastering the technics before stylising the way he used his voice. His solo discography is really something to listen to, he really did explore the limits of his voice a lot, he was a really ambitious vocalist who deeply loved music and seemed really curious about all he could do. But what is the most striking to me is really his evolution as a vocalist, he's so interesting, he did start as a more technical singer and slowly stylized the way he sang to a point he really became a K-pop vocalist you can't mix with any other
@user-wi5lf2xd2h Yesss! He knew how to do it and realized what worked and what didn't work, I forgot what vid it was but I remember him mentioning how he changes the way he sings often and I've heard vocal coaches say the same thing cuz the way he sings 1 song changed every year
@@アウエン yes! as a singer myself, i do admire and try to learn by listening and analysing his technique! for me jonghyun is a true vocalist artist cuz even when he goes for a more "stylist" sound HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IT WELL AND WITH NO DAMAGE! also jonghyun look up at singers/vocalists and tried to learn it. gosh i love jonghyun and him as an artist and a vocalist. he was a true vocalist
Even bosses like Ailee and Chen have their off moments
Yep. That makes me believe they're human 😂😂😂
Honestly speaking, Jyp might be a bad belter, but he definitely is a person who's confidence you can aspire to have.😂
And he is actually a good teacher
This is why I always say there's a clear distinction between horrible and bad because none of the bad ones were really horrible and some of them weren't that bad to listen to
(For the most part)
Right, like JYP’s F#4 was listenable, but his G4 made me very uncomfortable 🥲
@@kitkat2713 "UNCOMFORTABLE" 😭 you need to leave 🤣😭
@@kitkat2713🤣🤣🤣
What ive noticed is that my throat feels relaxed when listening to the green ones and tense when the red come up
yep! Resonance does make you feel relaxed when listening to it. Notice how the red ones don’t have any resonance to them. That’s because the singers sang from the throat, instead of from the diaphragm.
I love that you showcased Chen having an off moment only to revalue him a second later!
I was a little bit confused when you showed Chen as red, because I thought it sounded good. But then you showed him again as green, and difference was crazy!
Thanks for this video, and hope you did well on your finals, haha!
Nice now I have a better notion of what belting is. To distinguish the quality of the belting is like having a feeling about the "push". Push "painful" feeling : bad. Push "screamy" feeling : decent. Push "beautiful and lyrical" feeling : Great. Its quite like the voice you hear has a texture value. Spiky for Bad, Grainy for Decent and Soft for Great.
And congrats for your finals !
Chen being in the ‘bad’ tier once here just goes to show that even the pros mess up every now and then
D.o is superb in exo.truly underated
i love how you showed chen in both bad and good belting and with the same note. it shows that this is about technique and not just mindless stan culture who thinks their fave can do no wrong and calls out others needlessly.
belle has such an amazing voice, but i noticed that she usually has to push herself to hit those crazy notes which makes me worried. i hope she protects her voice so that it doesn’t deteriorate :(
i’m really glad you specified this isn’t about good singers vs bad singers and even showed great singers having bad moments! a lot of fans don’t seem to understand that even great vocalists can have their off days, especially in such a gruelling industry.
Eunji hitting that note in a mask is mad impressive
I'm crying with "a very confident man indeed" 😭😭😭 I really love that performance by Seungkwan, he was only 19 😭🩵
kiss of life's company needs to stop having belle sing so high all the time, i feel like it'll strain her voice some.
yeah, i feel like she going to break her cords sometimes😭
Her voice is already lost and they're going on a world tour s2 sucks. And she said she barely gets sleep
The breath control is amazing of park Hyoshin
Evolution of JYPE Across Generations 😜
Too bad his vocals didn’t undergo same evolution….
Very beautiful G4 from seungkwan, and as expected from SM vocalists chen amazing resonance and taeyeon beautiful C#5
Chen's best luck notes are one of my favourites.
This video made me realise that how even good vocalist can do bad belting sometimes.(Also can someone tell me that what range is chen's drop that note is?)
In Drop That, he sustains an E5 belt at the end although there's a quick-phrased G5 right before. But lmao his part in Drop That has so many belted E5's.
@@VideoStar14 thanks
I am so happy to see Luna in this video! She is technically so incredibly good it's insane! Also, if you don't mind me asking? Have you ever listened to Younha? She is a Korean singer and songwriter. She had incredible technique back in the days and supported F5's in her mixed register and despite her voice being so bright and youthful, it was really powerful and amplified in size. :) She was imo one of the best vocalists in Korea back in the days.
I need jyps confidence
Even Chen can have bad moments.
Yes. Anyone can have bad moments 😊😊
We're human after all
I think people are losing perspective recently because we rarely hear idols sing live anymore. It used to be that we regularly heard incredible vocalists from SHINee, snsd, etc, crack or get into trouble on music shows, so people understood that this is normal. Honestly it made the great performances much more thrilling, because you could understand how difficult and rare it is. Now that everything is pre-recorded and heavily processed, I don't even know what half these fourth gen idols really sound like. Choreo has gotten tougher, but I'd personally prefer we went back to the old ways. Just let the main vocalist stand still and sing while the others dance at the climax.
Even Mariah Carry has friend😂
Everyone has bad moments
Even Celine Dion, Beyonce, and Mariah Carey
Yey DK and Seungkwan... And i personally congratulate all main vocalists identified here... They work hard for their craft... ❤
I love how JYP is out there giving singing advices when he himself barely can sing properly😂😂😂
He is indeed very confident😂
Those who can't do... teach
I mean his advices aren't necessarily 100% incorrect but they're just simple things that probably doesn't even needed to be pointed out-
A teacher is not always better than their students.
And his groups are notoriously bad singers.
I was shocked when I discovered NMIXX were actually half decent vocally.
Twice and Itzy can't sing at all
8:54 damn that was a CRAZY belt oh my God!
Happy that you did well on your finals (not even surprised tbh)!! Looking forward to your next videos’ ideas (:
I'm seeing a bunch of comments annoyed that there's only idols in this video . Why? This is an educational video about vocal technique and it shouldn't matter who is used as an example.
Also maybe the creator has been listening to Kpop more as if recent and at the end of the day this us his channel
i wish someday i'll have the same confidence as jyp
4:07 this note still give me goosebumps (also isn't that note resonated ?)
It is
Absolutely! Beautifully resonated
the actual meaning of resonance is different to know kpop stans use it. you could say it’s a great open belt with nice chest resonance.
A Green Supported note tends to have Resonance. If it doesn’t than it isn’t Green supported. At most it would be Yellow
Love how you acknowledged Eunji’s belts, especially that E5 ❤
You should also check out Nmixx's Haewon, she has some great belting moments
You mean my Nmixx bias?😁
@@aintnootherfan mine too!🙈
chen my guy is stunning 🤩😍
Thank u for prasing Dk and Boo, and the other channel comment the Seventeen sound is robotic and emotionless.
I loved that you used two examples of Chen for G#4!
Actually d.o told baekhyun to sing his part and baek slayed it
this video just reminding everyone that eunji is a legend and one of the best vocalists in kpop
Some of Seungkwan’s notes can be so huge
im starting to believe that every video's intro will be run for roses from now
Hyolyn is a queen...the fact that she was dancing and hit that note 😭
She really is. She reminds me of JK. Both are the best live performers with choreo.
@@inquisitvem6723 How you going to say Hyolins powerful vocals and dancing reminds you of JK when they're miles apart technique wise, be serious.😭
@@Rozzness because most people who watch a performance do not care or talk about technique when watching. 😂…..she might be better , but he doesn’t have bad technique. They’re great live performers is the point.
@@Rozznesslmao ikr
Seungkwan my baby..! 😭
I love you so much 👏👏👏 I swear his vocal card never declines.
Cut JYP some slack ☹️ .. he tries.
4:28 just Chen competing with himself
Eunji is such a mad queen. E5 with a mask on!
Chen and Taeyeon really need a song together
Belting is what gives you chills the back of your arms.
I think he still running for roses😂
I sure am!
@@aintnootherfan i wish you could make review of their album 🙌
NOT JYP ON THE THUMBNAIL xD
another great video in this series. I am so happy that you have included Bell of Kiss of Life. I notice there are times when Belle sounds great belting and some times she is just really bad. why do you think is causing this inconsistency? what can she do to improve?
Thank you for including clips and appreciating APINK Eunji's vocals 💖
Only Park Hyoshin looks flawless belted ❤
Yes. My first love. He's super cool
It would be nice if there could be explanations for why someone’s belt was bad, decent, good for different clips.
I appreciate how you showed some great singers having off moments. It shows they are human.
Would love to see you talk about Yonghoon from the band Onewe. He is a great singer, but no one talks about him.
Lily's recent E5 in the groups cover of Kiss at their MIXX University concert🥰 (day 1, day 2 wasn't as open)
Will have to check it out!
@@aintnootherfanyessss! look up the fancams from October 7th 2023, Lily had her pink hair short on day 1
tbf Chen's bad G#4 was on a terrible vowel to belt in the first place
Run for roses making a comeback ;)))
I love the song too so really happy to hear u use it a lot!
Park Hyoshin and Sohyang are the standard bearers for great belting. Glad you show them here.
Eunjin slayed the B4 & the E5 omg😭❤️🔥
The jongho clip is "is it still beautifull" if anyone wanted it.
I loved the "Stunning" for Chen, he is indeed stunning ❤
Eunjis E5 sounded CRAZYY
the jyp comments are hilarious. great video :)
Thanks for showing that you can recognize bad moments for great singers. People like to generalize that a bad performance equates to a bad performer overall. We just have days that are not in our favor. We can slay next time around.
Park hyoshin is such an amazing vocalist. This just made me want to go back and revisit a lot of his performances
4th gen groups either have the best or most mid vocalists ever. youve got billlie and aespa who are all clearly vocally trained with simpler dances and then you've got groups like newjeans, le sserafim and itzy who are more dance focused. and then youve got nmixx who are jumping up and down while singing. and i'm least a fan of them than all the other groups i mentioned but i gotta hand it to em because that is mind blowinggg
I don't even know nor understand these things of notes, but this is entertaining.
YAYYYYYY
the beloved series
Eunji's resonance on E5 😭🔥
I was realy confident Taeyon will show up in this video and will be green. I wasnt wrong.
Btw I dont have any clue of notes and anything shown in this video, yet it was realy entertaining.
if lily opens up her vowels a LIIIITLE more, her notes would be far more resonant and meaty
she's got an amazing range, but a very whiny and thin belt
her mouth is a great shape, but she needs to release rather than push
2nd gen is the goat
I'm happy to see Eunji and Luna in this channel. They are amazing 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
3:16 I didn’t know Hyoshin had a moment like that. His breath support here is outstanding!
Yuju's resonance is so powerful
idk how to explain it, but when they are green they make me tear up.
i miss your christina aguilera videos, please talk about her new vegas residency 🙏
Nmixx best vocalist group that continues to grow❤❤❤❤🐳🐳🐳🐳🐳
Eunji is one of the best vocalist in kpop.
belting refers to the thickening of the folds that can not apply above M1 or MX1, so you are right and wrong... MX2 cannot be belted, MX1 could be called "mix belt" because it refers to the "thinner" or thinned version of chest voice
At 7:52, is sohyang using M1 or M2? Bc people say she generally uses M2 nowadays and her last belts were 10 years ago.
Get em queen
@@ardentthoughts9750the Eb5 was a neutral Mx1(chest)
@@ardentthoughts9750Sohyang still belts consistently until like a G5 nowadays so this notion that she doesn't is just not true
i love that you include multiple colors from the same singer!!!!
Not with Siyeon 😐 this guy should know that Siyeon sings rock and that’s why she doesn’t really belt it’s a rock thing
Still haven’t listened to Big Mama, the real vocal queens of K-pop.
Love your videos! I was wondering if you could look into pentagon's vocal line and also btob (I think you haven't metion them before but I may be wrong), I think there's some gems in those groups and they're rarely talked about :(
JYP ones are torture tbh. 😂
Even my guy Chen can has his bad moments too.
But seeing him both in bad and good example for the same G#4 is kinda hilarious but also amazing at the same time 😂🤭
He's stunning indeed 🥰
Interesting!! With that confidence, JYP was able to form one of the most important companies in the industry 🤯
JYP's confidence is higher than his company's building
Park Hyoshin FLEXED flexed
I just knew Sohyang would on this list
I wanted to ask if you'd ever do a video on bad/decent/great vocal fry or distortion? I would love to see something like that. ❤
now I understand ehy haewon biased jyp, he is so confident haha
Sohyang queen of mix voice ❤
I understand how difficult dance, touring, multiple concerts etc. can impact breathing therefore belting, but there is no reason for a trained voice to do some of the mistakes here. Some have too much confidence (0_o), some too little and some are absolutely not trained to sing.
its never about who is higher, its about vocal color and control
So happy to see some Luna appreciation in this video
Super Junior's Leeteuk is mixed as a singer, sometimes he's great and sometimes he's meh, but he actually has one of the best belting techniques around. They did an actual decibel test in SuJu, which has three of the greatest singers in Kpop, and he won. His singing bits in SuJu are few and far between, but he always introduces himself in the MENT of live concerts with a long shout that would create an avalanche if he did it in the Swiss Alps. 😂
Have you heard of BTOB? Would love them to be included in videos like this!
You can hear that the good ones sound clearer but I have no clue as to why 😂
The moment I saw Lily in the Thumbnail I had to click on it 😭
Siyeon is giving FERGIE
siyeon is giving 🦆
but her vibrato is decent
Oh my God I played it back and she really does sound like Fergie 😭
😭
Jail
Jail 😭