For all the people in the comments who think this person is saying that these singers are bad, they are not. They are just saying that the technique they were using was bad and it could damage the singers' voices in the future.
Kevin Richards RPM Vocal Studio and truthfully buddy, if you did, you wouldn't be giving free lessons on TH-cam. If you knew what you were talking about, your time, like with most of us who know what we are talking about, would be valuable. :)
Well is the video of someoe Who has not. Talked bout how Mariah los her ability to give a whistle register, Beyoncé and all of her faves can be singers with a good tecnique, but they are bad performers, soul and gospel singers are not the Best in the world
@@augustoaguayo6579 How is Beyoncé a bad performer? Her performance is definitely one of her strong suits, even though her voice is not as great as Whitney’s was (but still a good singer).
Take vocal lessons & join your school choir. Best decisions I made and I was a low alto and by exploring my potential because of working with professionals, I'm now a soprano. You might not know how to properly access your head voice.
I kind of feel that the "biz" is training the general public to accept really horrible singing. Some of these clips were shocking. In the 80s/90s, when good music reigned, there would have literally been "boos" from the audience or some tomatoes perhaps but I looked and they were smiling and enjoying it!
@@emelineemeline9114 I don't think it's knowledge of technique, I think it's that the standard for vocal talent was just higher back then. It's fallen to really low depths now if someone like Demi Lovato is considered a powerhouse vocalist and one of the best voices of this generation, every famous singer's singer from the last decade to every decade from the 20th century could sing her under the rug.
In Nicole's defense, she was battling having bulimia at the time and when you're constantly throwing up, the stomach acid can burn your esophagus and ruin your voice. She is extremely talented and is doing so much better now
I think she's a good singer,but she runs out of breath quick and she really needs to work on it.When I watched her concert on Netflix,I was so close to turning it off because she just sounded so out of breath and it was horrible
to triggered people: improper technique≠bad voices, it just means that isn't the healthiest and safest technique, but many of these traits is why these artists have a unique tone like Tori kelly, whom im a fan of.
Bey Fan forgot I watched this 😅 But yeah, I can agree with that. :) Also yeah didn’t notice tori was placed having good technique the first time around
Some uneducated people commenting “but they still sound good”...Does it really matter? In a few more years, we will see who still sounds good. And if you have a trained ear, bad technique does NOT sound good, it makes your throat hurt just by listening to singers use bad technique. I suggest for the people commenting that to watch a few videos on vocal technique and maybe go to a professional vocal coach and talk to them about this.
Bunny God I don't know how I made it through this video. It's like I could feel the nodules forming. It doesn't sound good to me. I'm sure that after a lot of these performances they were hoarse.
Clark Kent Actually, no. Vocal coaching does the opposite. Vocal coaches teach you things that help improve the way you sing. Nobody likes somebody who blurts out notes and basically screams them out. It isn't pleasant and not only that but it can hurt your throat. Vocal coaching helps you avoid that stuff.
Clark Kent Okay. Yes. I do agree you need to hire a professional coach that knows what he/she is doing. But those coaches help you. They know what is healthy for your voice and how to improve the few flaws you may have. But also, not many people enjoy hearing screaming. Sure, it may appeal to some people for whatever reason but there are other ways to project your voice without hurting your voice. Vocal coaches help you fix your flaws so you won't make the same mistake again.
what they said about ariana’s high larynx has always been true when belting high notes like G5. she has improved a lot since the dwt. cant wait to see what her vocals are like in a few years!!!
Lol how did Whitney Houston not make the "epitome" of good technique and breath support, etc. Whitney Houston is a perfect example of a neutral larynx and phenomenal breath support without any sign of fatigue. Although she is not a perfect singer and may have had very few misplacement of larynx, she is pitch perfect 99% of the time and has a neutral larynx in almost all performances.
@Raya Strong Whitney's voice has been damaged since the 2000's... She couldn't even speak let alone singing... Her life choices made her go completely hoarse. She had lost her voice but ultimately gained it back to 75% at the time at her head. Excluding the massive fails during the Nothing But Love Tour
dean revees You do know she is a classically trained vocalist right? Her technique is some of the best in the business. Not every performance is a great one, obviously, but you can absolutely hear when her technique is correct. The notes come out rich and not nasally versus sounding very sharp and strained like in this video. Her belting technique is something even Mariah Carey never perfected and that's why her voice is so damaged now. Every single artist overworks their vocal chords because it's literally what they do for a living. She has recently gotten off a world tour which means she's probably on a vocal rest or vocal limitation for a few weeks if not longer. Watch her first performances when she comes back to the stage in the future, I bet her technique will be on point. However, I will say that there is no safe way to hit a whistle note.. I watched her live and she replaces them with falsettos A LOT. Whistle notes should really only be done in a studio, not every single performance.
I am a guitar, bass, and vocal instructor. I have taught many people clean, raspy, and screaming vocal technique and vocal warm ups. The main thing I noticed is that group 1 (the good technique) didn't "sing with their throat". They had good control of where they sing from. A good singer will "sing with their diaphragm". Singing with the diaphragm helps with breath control and you can sing both loud and soft without feeling like something might go wrong and your voice might crack. Your vocal chords will become shot and will tire out quickly if you don't sing with your diaphragm. Vocal warm ups help loosen vocal chords and help you get your maximum vocal range. When you use warm ups it may seem silly but in the long run they're what will help you hit high and low notes years from now. All of the "bad examples" didn't sing with their diaphragm and sang with their throats, they most likely had a bad or improper vocal warm up, didn't hydrate, and didn't get enough vocal rest.
which probably means, that unlike all of us, they have to sing every day of their lives and have demanding careers which make them make "mistakes" that are not actually wrong because they have to face all sorts of conditions, so it's quite logical to think they couldn't warm-up or drink water, or that they were in a concert room with many changes of temperature and even smoke. Some "vocal purists" would like the entire world to sing like a singer calmly singing in a studio with constant temperature and constant humidity. Well, reality is much more complex.
+Kaylasa JaguarStar What are you defending exactly? This is hardly a critique, all they did was state what we see in the video already and even suggested the singers to have stressed their voice or had not warmed up rather than calling them terrible singers.
@@lamb9770 you're very wrong. pay attention. who the fuck would make a "style choice" of people not being able to understand a word they say and it ending up sounding like she's just yelling random vowels? that's not a style choice.
Lovebird you’re fucking dumb. she’s literally done both where you can clearly hear what she’s sayin & where she’s a little less clear. a lot of singers do it. it’s literally a choice to sing like that.
Well, as for "ever"... It's questionable. Depends on how much you actually explore the capabilities of your voice. They're singers, they go for it. A lot of people try singing without knowing what they're doing, and quit because they suck. But it's improvable.
Everyone: Look at all these butt hurt fans who can't handle it they're being so ridiculous Me: *scrolling trying to find even one butt hurt fan commenting*
Its basically were singers can hit the same notes with different tones. Christina for example has sang with a low larynx her whole career making her voice sound "stronger" and more powerful. Bless her soul. Britney also has sang with a low larynx her whole career. Which is why she sounds like a baby.
No disrespect to demi Lovato, I've just personally always felt annoyed listening to her belts. It's legit sounds more like she's yelling in pain rather than singing the belted note itself.
just because ariana has ease (sort of) in upper belts and doesn't exactly sound like she straining, does NOT mean she's a good technical singer, ariana fans....
Rose Al-Qatani Pelaez I’d say generic is a better word for her. Nothing special imo, just another pop star. She’ll be a has been in a few years with the way she’s going. Just another Mariah Carey lol
Yeah but you all are so fast to judge them on their bad performances but she doesn’t show how they have improved or any of their good performances in any other performances
Wtf you're judging Alicia Keys on her breath support and notes at Whitney Houston's funeral. I think she's allowed to sound like that if she's choking back tears....
that is not the reason for alicias weak voice, ever since having the baby her voice has gotten very thin and her range is not what it used to be back in the early 2000s
people do realize that technique is the life of a singer right? you can utilize good and healthy techniques and still add stylistic choices... Whitney is considered a vocal legend. Hits like I Will Always Love You wouldn't be as iconic today without it.
All of you complaining: 1. A good sounding belt is not always healthily placed 2. A healthily placed belt does not always sound good (usually, yes, but not always) 3. Most people who make youtube videos criticizing singers' belts and techniques don't take singing lessons, and just "learn" through other youtube videos (Im not saying this person is not a singer, I have no idea. Maybe they are, maybe not. But im just saying many people who run channels like this one are not singers.) Don't be so butthurt, singers are human, they're not always gonna have perfect performances. And being a fan of someone does not mean you're gonna have your head up their asses and agree on everything they do and defend them at all cost even when you KNOW you're not being objective.
Exactly. Im a Lovatic and the reason why her voice is like that cause she has a problem with her throat or her tonsils or something witch means she has to go to the doctor all the time to check on her vocal cords. But that doesnt mean Demi cant pull of a high ass badass note am i right😎.
Yeah I agree you try doing what they are doing and do come back with that stupid response “I don’t want to be a singer” then DONT JUDGE THEM They are doing fine and Ariana and Demi (the main new singers) have improved their vocal technique over the years
You do know mariah carey exists, and alot of people says she has no talent, only her range. You sound really very condescending when you say things like that and generalize.
@@jaspersimon3363 I love Mariah Carey. But I'm not a fan of her live performances. Her technique is really good but i can't say she has a consistent higher range while singing live. She's extremely good at lows, her fluid transitions are awesome, and she's the queen of whistles, but i won't give it to her for high notes( though she supports them while hitting). While performing live, she uses all of her plus points and makes it up, but still it feels like music is missing in some parts of the song. Just my opinion :)
@@jaspersimon3363 So some people say dumb things, and? Literally no mainstream singer under 30 can be said to have "good" technique much less "great". Even broading the field to "under 40", you're left with Beyoncé and like 2 or 3 others.
@@darkangel4994 yea but umm context kinda do matter and it seems not... morally right to put that here rather than just leave it alone considering the context?
Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy that’s not the point, she was literally holding back tears at a funeral, it’s just straight up disrespectful to put that in this video it’s not even about the singing
yes her breath support is back and it is improving but it still has long ways to go, if only her fans' support could provide her breath lmao honestly im so happy that she's almost there to supporting C5's in SWOTR
RyderC Daniels Ironically Ariana's belts here HAD good breath support, so your comment is stupid. It was her larynx placement and tension that's the problem.
if you didn't know, ariana was in tour for a year and her songs were mostly in the octaves. She kept singing them until she hurt her voice but she belted pretty well. Now in Ariana's performance's she's constantly shouting them because her voice has been temporarily damaged. Please realize that not ever singer has to be perfect and belt their notes pretty well. Ariana will be back soon but for now on, she can't help but scream them.
@@luciasaanunez7735 don’t worry for her she’s been doing it 20+ years those vocal cords are made of steel if she would’ve damage her voice it would’ve happened a long time ago.
Guys, it's not just about the techniques. It's to keep their throat and diaphragm safe so that they can continue to sing properly. They literally stated that they liked these artists and sometimes it sounds really good, just that they were not taking proper precautions. Yes, emotion and soul are important aspects of singing, but you shouldn't be straining yourself to hit notes. Stop being so pissy because someone pointed out that it wasn't good for them.
Some of y'all have got to chill. It's not whether the singer sounds good or bad, it's about if they're using good technique. You can use bad technique and still sound good, in my opinion. But bad technique is unhealthy and can potentially damage your vocal instrument. And for the people who ask who this person is to judge, one of the things you learn if you study singing is to listen to singers for bad technique. I used to tell everyone that they sounded good in vocal studio because I felt bad until my voice teacher tore me apart for being unhelpful. It's a skill you should know as a singer.
I'm just going to say this. How dare you put a clip of Alicia Keys singing at a FUNERAL when it is obvious that she is fighting back tears and trying to sing and then say she's "struggling and shouting notes"? Try again with a different clip then you can have room to judge.
Its just dumb that literally the only example of alicia singing improperly was pulled from the funeral. Regardless of it being an example or not, it seems rude to critique her performance in that situation at all.
Sorry, but if u studied singing, belting is NEVER meant to be the only way of singing because belting IS basically screaming. You should use it as a singing style where you throw one or two but not the whole song. You have incorrectly identified what is of high larynx and what is of low. Lady Gaga didn't belt, neither did Beyoncé. They were singing in their 'mix'. Fergie was singing high larynx at all the clips. Just extremely annoyed at all these videos trying to put down different singers, thinking that you guys know what good singing is. You guys don't even sing, you are in no position to even comment what's good and bad. Belting is a style, not meant to be done all the time. It's basically screaming but with support and when done with good control, it doesn't damage anything.
ABSOLUTELY. I knew this video was not gonna be entirely accurate when it showed Mariah who sang with bad technique for years. The correct way to pop out the high notes is to mix them. Gaga nailed it. Celine Dion is master at it (although when she does All By Myself she basically has to scream.)
+The Life Of The Lambily Mix is when a singer mix both your head voice together their ur chest voice, most singers just scream the notes out when it reaches their fourth octave and get away with it because it sounds fine hahaha and that is belting. Mariah Carey mixes very well, not as of late but in her prime she was untouchable...
+Cam 0599 Cool une francophone :p Alors pour la position du larynx normalement elle doit être NEUTRE quand tu chantes. Quand une chanteuse le positionne en bas comme Madonna ou Britney qui le font SOUVENT c'est pour accentuer leur timbre de voix et "forcer" les notes. Quand elles le positionnent en haut c'est pour atteindre des notes hautes même si elles se pètent les cordent vocales et on entend bien une tension dans les notes car elles tirent sur les cordes vocales. Et pour le "breath support" je parle du souffle, quand tu chantes normalement avant tu inspires et tu comptes sur l'air que tu as mis dans ton diaphragme pour chanter, cest bénefique pour accentuer ou placer du vibrato
i'm happy that ariana seems to be working on her bad belting technique, in 2019 she is supporting D5s, and the high larynx starts at F5, she's doing good on sweetener tour, but she needs a vocal coach to improve
+Ariana Grande Yes, in Ari's songs there are high notes but she doesn't reach them properly. About hitting notes she has a wide range but she is not awesome
+Samia Rial uh huh...see what ten years of singing notes that sound good but aren't sung properly will do to your average lyric soprano. Something can sound good and still be impressively unhealthy - just look at Christina Aguilera. Start of her career: hits high F and F# like nothing. Now: barely squeezed out an E, and that's pushing it. Her tonality has gone to shit, and she only sounds good anymore when her technique is good.
+Samia Rial she is not saying that they aren't good but she is saying they could be better with some adjustments. Trust me she knows what she is saying and she wasn't bashing anybody just saying they could have slight improvements. Plus in the world there are good singers with bad moments and there are bad singers with good moments
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏 they all are so quick to criticize them but they don’t know what it’s like for them or what they have to go through for example Demi lovato she has a drug problem and thank god she has recovered from an overdose but do you think that she’s on stage while singing worrying about having perfect belting technique she’s trying to make sure that she has enough emotion in her song if it’s an emotional song for example stone cold she is trying to make people feel what she is feeling she’s not saying to herself I have to raise my larynx here but not too much cause these fuckers on TH-cam will say I have bad technique otherwise like geez stop hating
@@jamesquinn1220 regardless of Demi Lovato's personal life, she SHOULD be worried about proper trchnique and not about sounding emotional in her songs. She's a singer, if she continues to scream in an attempt to sound impressive, she could damage her vocals
Garry Eagle first of all she didn’t scream she belts, so stfu about that and yes she should be worrying about technique but not in every performance like yes technique is a priority but in some performances it’s not a main one sounding emotional and getting the message through, “Anyone” for example she should be focusing more on putting emotion into her song instead of worrying about technique and don’t say she screams in an effort to impress everyone because she doesn’t even have to sing to impress everyone so shush
@@jamesquinn1220 actually, she should be worrying about proper technique in every performance, not just in some. She is a singer, it's her career. She can belt and still have good breath support, etc. but she doesn't. We aren't talking about other singers, we are talking specifically about Demi, though. If she keeps screaming like a banshee, she won't have a voice to sing with so you can stfu☺
Under an Ariana grande music video I said “she has a great voice but terrible vocal technique”, I deleted that comment because so many people were giving me hate because of it, I was legit concerned about her voice. You can still sound great with horrible technique.
And that.... you do understand it is hard but someone is allowed to give an opinion like that without being a singer themselves. Bet some ppl told you "oh are YOU a singer?! Huhhhh?!" "Its hard to do what she doesss" Or giving you a similiar crap just for saying it... aw man. I feel bad for ya. The fans should chill rlly esp if its sth that is true
She actually had good tehnicque when she was on Broadway,watch this video : th-cam.com/video/gFi7_LFG7OA/w-d-xo.html The reason why it went downhill is that she left Broadway and she get pop vocal coach,pop singers don't need tehnicque. But her tehnicque is improving now,she is better than past few years,listen to swt live vocals.She is getting better and better,maybe she will good as before in future,let's hope so.
Professional vocal coaches say that Ariana has a solid technique. Ariana's supported range is from F#3 to F5. She projects her voice well. Her natural rolling vibrato can be heard in belts up to G#5 and as low as Bb3, suggesting a relaxed approach. She is able to move throughout the entirety of her range and between registers with ease.The highlight of her voice is her well-balanced mixed voice, which stretches up to Bb5’s reliably and consistently, a significant achievement for even professional soprano vocalists. Ariana can also resonate up to E5. Her falsetto is bright and reliable live up to E6.
Miley Cyrus sounds amazing in my opinion but HELL she is damaging her vocals, you can hear at her Malibu live performances 2017 and she is belting with a bad technique, she sounds amazing, I mean I am a smiler myself but hell that high larynx will kill those vocals, I think she should focus on the amazingly resonant and healthy lower register she has.
Yeah I don't really care that she has a bad belting technique, her low register is AMAZING and one of the best in the industry, she doesn't even need to sing vocal songs in my opinion :-)
All of those larynx notes sound like they hurt. It also sounds like they’re ripping and damaging the vocal cords. I’ve never liked their sound and have always wondered why they choose to present a note that way? Someone with musical training please answer. I’d be very grateful. Have you done one of these videos on Sia? When I hear her live, I think exactly what I just wrote - each and every time.
For those people saying their fav singer didn't deserve to be on this list, and they were singing perfectly, take a moment and ask yourself how much you know about vocals, than take a seat. There are valid points made about their execution such as larynx placement and breath support. You can't just overlook these things and just say " (blank) did amazing why are they on this list?" THE REASONS R LITERALLY IN THE VIDEO!
Yes. That's right. You said it best. Now I keep imagine Chris Hansen from Dateline telling all these butthurt people defending their favorite singer to "take a seat." 😆😆😆
Thanks for adding all the description of what they were doing incorrectly! It's really helpful being able to hear the wrong sound and have an explanation why, makes it easy to learn to identify as you go farther through the video. Great for improving your own technique when listening to play back, thanks for the great reference! :)
When Christina sings the song I'M OK, it's such a personal song about her childhood, so, we can understand the flaws in her voice. The album version we can hear the flaws, she can't help being emotional. And the video of her singing this song, was actually the first time she sang the song after the album version. SO, I get her!
you can definitely hear the difference. Those who use proper technique it sounds smoother (not talking about style but quality of the notes) and it does not look like their straining. proper technique let's you sing and hit high notes comfortably. but I have noticed that a lot of singers recently shout out their notes instead of singing, and most people think it's normal but I can't listen to songs where their just shouting.
I know that Christina doesn't have the best technique,but there is no denying how amazing she sounds.she truly is the best female vocalist of her generation.
such a shame the creator showed the clip when she sings Im ok, a rendition that all the good technique singers would be jealous of. that raw emotion is worth the world!
This isn't a hate comment, or an die hard fan comment, but Ariana is mixing almost all of her high belts, she knows technique, because she had to sing 8 times a week on Broadway at age 14, she knows what she's doing, but I loved this video
+Najeeb Khan whatever, no big deal, but she has been working on it, for exams her acapella dangerous woman, or the performances she did recently with Jason Robert brown
+Christian Demetrius Kidd Mixing is just the tip of the Iceberg. A good technique is based on a good vocal placement, breath support, resonance, neutral larynx, natural vibrato, entonation, relaxed tongue and mouth between others. Ariana is a little far from having a great technique but I hope she gets it eventually
In her younger singing years she did kinda pop rock music but most people were saying that she was copying Hayley Williams(btw didn’t even realize who she was until I realized (well I think) she sings I’m into you and stay the night) but yeah people were saying that which is kinda stupid if you ask me
Adrianna Hubbard Okay but serious note I’m an amateur vocalist and really struggle with this. I’m not conscious of my breathing at all! I forget to breathe when I’m talking sometimes. At least once a week I’ll get on a rant and only stop because my vision is going weird and then I realise I’ve only had a handful of short breaths the whole time 😂
No no no, Ariana shouldn't be there, everything you showed was perfect and had specific reasons she did it, dangerous woman, there is a lot of echo so she tried to use it and it was perfect and also she can hit those high notes
+Asadullah Ibrahim he isn't saying that she can't I think he's just pointing out that her larynx is infact raised. however I would agree with you on the point that this isn't necessarily bad technique. It's only bad techniques if she's in pain. and she seems quite comfortable. The whole larynx thing is such a source of controversy in the sinking worlds. But just so you know...Barbara could hit all of those notes that Ariana hits without Lowering her Larynx...just a thought
I'm a fan of both, but I don't think that means they are perfect and can't get any better. Everyone needs a little constructive criticism now and then :)
Why do people not realize that the video is just to show bad technique. Someone can sound amazing while using a bad technique. The video isn't bashing anyone only showing examples. Goodness...
Here's the deal. Unless you're a vocal coach, or a student studying singing, you can't judge whether or not someone has good technique. Just because someone raises their head or looks like their struggling doesn't mean they are actually struggling or using bad technique. Sometimes it's just the singer showing emotion or being dramatic when they singing. Being a student who has been studying vocal technique, I can tell you that probably half of these singers were using a healthy technique. Plus, to compare them to the singers who were "using good technique" when they were all hitting notes in the 4th and lower half of the 5th octave, while everyone else in the video was singing in the mid/upper 5th octave is unfair. (Not to mention you used a clip of Mariah, even though her technique destroyed her voice. Even my vocal coach used her as an example of bad technique.) Not a hate comment, just an education comment.
I saw in a video of a vocal coach (who used videos of two other vocal coaches to support his words) that raising the chin actually can help avoiding high larynx. Also I think Maria's voice got damaged due to her nodules that she decided to help by drinking.
Wow, people are so touchy. Even the greatest singers don't sing great ALL the time. It's actually really refreshing because we're so used to hearing the edited and perfect versions of songs on the radio, but they are people and they can have an off performance just like the rest of us. Makes me appreciate them more.
if she did that she wouldn't have a singing career right now, her voice was damaged bc of the tone she had to use to interpretate Cat Valentine, she wasn't really using belting techniques at the time and always lowered her larynx. Also when doing covers, she was kinda trying to sound more like the original singer she has damaged her voice but it has matured into the voice she has now. If you search on youtube Ariana Grande singing disney songs on sc you can clearly see that she lowered her larynx on that F3 in order to make it sound "big". idk just my opinion on that last part of the comment.
+Justine Ferrer it had nothing to do with Cat Valentine... Lmao she sings a lot and most singers damage their vocal cords somewhere down the line and that's what happened. She's a soprano, talking breathy like Cat isn't a problem, she is just always at work with her high notes and without proper technique sometimes it can effect her vocal chords. Smh all these new Arianators blaming everything on Cat lmao.
This video is actually super helpful and educational. It even stated at the start of the video that the 'bad technique' singers don't sound bad, they just have bad *technique*. As an amateur singer it is very useful to be able to tell the difference between techniques and what is good for your voice. Thank you for this video.
They honestly sound horrific to me. I've been doing a s*** ton of pitch training. That was legitimately painful for me to hear. It's really crazy because 3 days ago I wouldn't have thought it was that bad. The Fergie one was always a hot mess we all knew that. I record myself singing and while I have the vocal range in head voice, when I try to Belt it sounds just like that. Yeah, you're hitting the notes but it's so freaking Sharp. Piercing
I felt pain watching these because it destroys your voice if you do it wrong. I lost my voice after doing too many belts incorrectly and had a long time before I could attempt doing another again.
Ariana actually had good tehnicque and she had beautiful voice when she was on Broadway,watch this video : th-cam.com/video/gFi7_LFG7OA/w-d-xo.html The reason why it went downhill is that she left Broadway and she get pop vocal coach,pop singers don't need tehnicque. But her tehnicque is improving now,she is better than past few years,listen to swt live vocals.She is getting better and better,maybe she will good as before in future,let's hope so.
I mean Ariana and Demi really remain right now, especially nowadays lmao. During TMTYLM and Sweetener Tour, their voices, especially Demi, improved so much. I can trust their voices lasting throughout their careers now. The notes that they are hitting now are just open and easy for them.
Thank you for this! My mom is a speech-language pathologist and she always comments on bad techniques! She actually called the nodes in Sam Smith and Adele before they came out to the public with having them because she could hear the bad technique and the nodules forming when she heard them sing!
I think Ariana and Demi killed it and ik this is not a hate vid but still , they shouldn't even be mentioned on a vid that has something to do with 'how bad singers are' (don't attack me plz😂) I'm mainly an Ariana fan but Demi is amazing as well !!xx
they aren't bad singers! but they got bad technique when it comes to breathing and posture! that's why they're bad. they sound good but they are harming there vocal chords. only choir singers and people that teach the singers (coordinators) know this and what it means
Yes, they will likely lose their voice in a few years if they keep singing with improper technique. But honestly, it’s the singer’s choice how they want to do it. I think it’s a stylistic choice of each singer, simply because they want to achieve a certain sound in their music. We can point this all out as much as we want, but it’s really not going to change anything, other than maybe the stans that think their fave is the best and they can see them in the poor examples list and see where they need to improve.
For all the people in the comments who think this person is saying that these singers are bad, they are not. They are just saying that the technique they were using was bad and it could damage the singers' voices in the future.
The point is this person has little or no real knowledge of singing technique in the real world.
Kevin Richards RPM Vocal Studio and truthfully buddy, if you did, you wouldn't be giving free lessons on TH-cam. If you knew what you were talking about, your time, like with most of us who know what we are talking about, would be valuable. :)
Well is the video of someoe Who has not. Talked bout how Mariah los her ability to give a whistle register, Beyoncé and all of her faves can be singers with a good tecnique, but they are bad performers, soul and gospel singers are not the Best in the world
@@augustoaguayo6579 How is Beyoncé a bad performer? Her performance is definitely one of her strong suits, even though her voice is not as great as Whitney’s was (but still a good singer).
why would it damage their voices?
I'm a very low alto and all of these singers make me jealous even with poor technique :(
Take vocal lessons & join your school choir. Best decisions I made and I was a low alto and by exploring my potential because of working with professionals, I'm now a soprano. You might not know how to properly access your head voice.
We Altos are important
Menthe Poivrée If it hurts to sing high you shouldn't be singing that high
Rojda you can't just become a soprano. You're probably speaking in choir terms tho.
It's true, you can't expand your range anymore than what you're born with, but you can improve how you sing.
There are way too many people that doesn't know what technique are.
I kind of feel that the "biz" is training the general public to accept really horrible singing. Some of these clips were shocking. In the 80s/90s, when good music reigned, there would have literally been "boos" from the audience or some tomatoes perhaps but I looked and they were smiling and enjoying it!
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@@emelineemeline9114 I don't think it's knowledge of technique, I think it's that the standard for vocal talent was just higher back then. It's fallen to really low depths now if someone like Demi Lovato is considered a powerhouse vocalist and one of the best voices of this generation, every famous singer's singer from the last decade to every decade from the 20th century could sing her under the rug.
Meeee
In Nicole's defense, she was battling having bulimia at the time and when you're constantly throwing up, the stomach acid can burn your esophagus and ruin your voice. She is extremely talented and is doing so much better now
Yes i knew that recently when i made my female singers admitting vocal flaws her story was touching
What's the name of that song?
@@ludythedisneyfan6003 memories( i think the barbra version)
Just watching this makes my throat hurt
Keana Astalos me too :c
It can’t be that bad but 👌
You don’t do it from your throat you do it from your stomach
Yeah like that zendaya one made me feel suffocated
@@jamesquinn1220 it burns a bit but it isn’t unbearable
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT WITH KATY PERRY?! A SCREECHING CAT GIVING BIRTH?! LMFAO HAHAHA
Im dead😂😂😂
Adriana Hogan lol
I think she's a good singer,but she runs out of breath quick and she really needs to work on it.When I watched her concert on Netflix,I was so close to turning it off because she just sounded so out of breath and it was horrible
Hahahaha spot on 😂
+Groovy Hot Pocket
Coming from a professional singer,,Katy
doesn't have talent. She's is not a good vocalist. She is only selling image
Tori Kelly is so underrated, she's amazing, really !
to triggered people: improper technique≠bad voices, it just means that isn't the healthiest and safest technique, but many of these traits is why these artists have a unique tone like Tori kelly, whom im a fan of.
tsuki If the singer has a unique timbre it doesn't mean that he/she has talent; btw Torri was used as a example of good technique in this video
Bey Fan forgot I watched this 😅 But yeah, I can agree with that. :) Also yeah didn’t notice tori was placed having good technique the first time around
There's no such a thing as healthy technique.
Today I just found out that Zendaya's last name is Coleman
I didn't realize that the first few were "good ones" and I was like "wait these sound amazing....oh wait"
Most of them sounded amazing but they still had bad technique. Its not saying they're bad singers it's saying they aren't doing it properly
Some uneducated people commenting “but they still sound good”...Does it really matter? In a few more years, we will see who still sounds good. And if you have a trained ear, bad technique does NOT sound good, it makes your throat hurt just by listening to singers use bad technique. I suggest for the people commenting that to watch a few videos on vocal technique and maybe go to a professional vocal coach and talk to them about this.
Bunny God I don't know how I made it through this video. It's like I could feel the nodules forming. It doesn't sound good to me. I'm sure that after a lot of these performances they were hoarse.
Clark Kent Actually, no. Vocal coaching does the opposite. Vocal coaches teach you things that help improve the way you sing. Nobody likes somebody who blurts out notes and basically screams them out. It isn't pleasant and not only that but it can hurt your throat. Vocal coaching helps you avoid that stuff.
Clark Kent Okay. Yes. I do agree you need to hire a professional coach that knows what he/she is doing. But those coaches help you. They know what is healthy for your voice and how to improve the few flaws you may have. But also, not many people enjoy hearing screaming. Sure, it may appeal to some people for whatever reason but there are other ways to project your voice without hurting your voice. Vocal coaches help you fix your flaws so you won't make the same mistake again.
Clark Kent if it's not helping you then it's not vocal coaching or maybe you're the problem lmfao
Beyoncé sounds good now, she has proper techbique now
Anyone else binge watching bad singing videos?😂
lmao me
right here lol
Tess and the Diamonds Yea who needs sleep anyway? 😝
Tess and the Diamonds
Same tbh
Yep gives me self confidence 😂
these annoying stans cant accept their faves dont have a good technique
Cersei Lannister Cersei whatchu doing here y'all finally get wifi
True but I think they should make a video on how the singers have improved their technique
what they said about ariana’s high larynx has always been true when belting high notes like G5. she has improved a lot since the dwt. cant wait to see what her vocals are like in a few years!!!
Yup like Ariana Grande fans
@@kokochanekll9444 who tf r u
Lol how did Whitney Houston not make the "epitome" of good technique and breath support, etc. Whitney Houston is a perfect example of a neutral larynx and phenomenal breath support without any sign of fatigue. Although she is not a perfect singer and may have had very few misplacement of larynx, she is pitch perfect 99% of the time and has a neutral larynx in almost all performances.
raya strong why not
Marco Murillo she is a human too.She doesnt need to do it properly everytime.
Raya Strong 😂😂😂
@Raya Strong Whitney's voice has been damaged since the 2000's... She couldn't even speak let alone singing... Her life choices made her go completely hoarse. She had lost her voice but ultimately gained it back to 75% at the time at her head. Excluding the massive fails during the Nothing But Love Tour
It's possible they just forgot or didn't have any clips at their disposal... not every great singer was included there either.
ari has a bad technique. pls ppl. im an arianator too. but i worried she'll lose her voice. i know she slay but with a bad technique :(
IKR. i absolutely love her, but her voice might go if she keeps doing this.
im dumb 😂
Josh Bailee I can't even with this comment. Lol.
Gotta screen cap this one for the vocal forums. Never seen so much dumb in one comment before.
dean revees I'm not a huge fan but I don't want everyone to loose their voice
dean revees You do know she is a classically trained vocalist right? Her technique is some of the best in the business. Not every performance is a great one, obviously, but you can absolutely hear when her technique is correct. The notes come out rich and not nasally versus sounding very sharp and strained like in this video. Her belting technique is something even Mariah Carey never perfected and that's why her voice is so damaged now. Every single artist overworks their vocal chords because it's literally what they do for a living. She has recently gotten off a world tour which means she's probably on a vocal rest or vocal limitation for a few weeks if not longer. Watch her first performances when she comes back to the stage in the future, I bet her technique will be on point. However, I will say that there is no safe way to hit a whistle note.. I watched her live and she replaces them with falsettos A LOT. Whistle notes should really only be done in a studio, not every single performance.
I am a guitar, bass, and vocal instructor. I have taught many people clean, raspy, and screaming vocal technique and vocal warm ups.
The main thing I noticed is that group 1 (the good technique) didn't "sing with their throat". They had good control of where they sing from. A good singer will "sing with their diaphragm".
Singing with the diaphragm helps with breath control and you can sing both loud and soft without feeling like something might go wrong and your voice might crack. Your vocal chords will become shot and will tire out quickly if you don't sing with your diaphragm.
Vocal warm ups help loosen vocal chords and help you get your maximum vocal range. When you use warm ups it may seem silly but in the long run they're what will help you hit high and low notes years from now.
All of the "bad examples" didn't sing with their diaphragm and sang with their throats, they most likely had a bad or improper vocal warm up, didn't hydrate, and didn't get enough vocal rest.
+Evan the France Totally agree !
some excellent advice, you should upload your tips and advice, I learned more frm u then vid,ty
which probably means, that unlike all of us, they have to sing every day of their lives and have demanding careers which make them make "mistakes" that are not actually wrong because they have to face all sorts of conditions, so it's quite logical to think they couldn't warm-up or drink water, or that they were in a concert room with many changes of temperature and even smoke. Some "vocal purists" would like the entire world to sing like a singer calmly singing in a studio with constant temperature and constant humidity. Well, reality is much more complex.
+Kaylasa JaguarStar What are you defending exactly? This is hardly a critique, all they did was state what we see in the video already and even suggested the singers to have stressed their voice or had not warmed up rather than calling them terrible singers.
I never heard of a vocal instructor giving people a screaming vocal technique?
I still cant believe jlo became a judge in a singing competition😞
non the less singing in the HALF TIME SHOW
Exactly! Even the contestants can sing better, and that's saying something (not for JLo though, even I can probably sing better than her lmao 😂)
I have always felt the same way. She's a mediocre singer, and a mediocre actress. She is beautiful and an awesome dancer.
I mean, if she has trained ears I guess it’s fine, although weird. But I don’t know if she has trained ears
@@physiotherapistpaulina9340 She IS a good actress
I think most people know that Jennifer Lopez just isn't that good of a singer.... :/
Same with Katy Perry..... Ugh.
Amanda Sutton
dont know who is worse...jlo or kperry or bspears?
J Lo can't carry a tune in a bucket and sorry to say Alicia Keys really isn't much better.
Jennifer indy Miley Cyrus how did She get signed from a Record Company is beyond me.
Amanda Sutton jlo Katy Perry sucks.
Ariana can sing but I can't understand her pronunciation
Catalina Perry that’s a style choice doesn’t mean anything
@@lamb9770 it's not a style choice it means she's not comfortable in the range
@@Lovebirdd that doesn't make any fucking sense. she chooses to sing like that in every song, not just belting.
@@lamb9770 you're very wrong. pay attention. who the fuck would make a "style choice" of people not being able to understand a word they say and it ending up sounding like she's just yelling random vowels? that's not a style choice.
Lovebird you’re fucking dumb. she’s literally done both where you can clearly hear what she’s sayin & where she’s a little less clear. a lot of singers do it. it’s literally a choice to sing like that.
People are so butthurt oml
LOVING YOUR PROFILE PIC! MARK IS LIFE
+Zoe Ellison OMFG SAME
agreed and markimoo is bae XD
I swear and Mark is awesome
Ouch my leg?
they all did better than I could ever do so I can't hide
Judge*
+Luna Akamine and what gives you the fucking right to call that person stupid? look who was talking.
Not jlo
Well, as for "ever"... It's questionable. Depends on how much you actually explore the capabilities of your voice. They're singers, they go for it. A lot of people try singing without knowing what they're doing, and quit because they suck. But it's improvable.
Everyone: Look at all these butt hurt fans who can't handle it they're being so ridiculous
Me: *scrolling trying to find even one butt hurt fan commenting*
They're in the replies, trust me
They’re hiding in the replies
@@amelierosemusic haha 😂😂yeah
7:00 it was probably very emotional for Alicia, because she was singing for Whitney at her funeral
I thought Gaga's performance was amazing. Just my opinion don't attack me
+Nhiel Albano it was, near perfect belt!! of a high note I don't know why its even here
Watch the video again. It stated that Lady Gaga was the proper way to belt.
I realised just after haha
+Anna Phan Oh lmao I didn't see. I'll watch it again 😂
Same
The moment when you have no idea what a larynx is because English isn't your native language.
Its basically were singers can hit the same notes with different tones. Christina for example has sang with a low larynx her whole career making her voice sound "stronger" and more powerful. Bless her soul. Britney also has sang with a low larynx her whole career. Which is why she sounds like a baby.
+Keddie Vobaine Ok, thanks for teaching me ^_^
FabulousSaphire Your welcome 😃😃
It's my native language and I still don't know what it is 😂 only from biology dissections
The larynx is an organ used for breathing and making sound.
No disrespect to demi Lovato, I've just personally always felt annoyed listening to her belts. It's legit sounds more like she's yelling in pain rather than singing the belted note itself.
Like straining tryna reach that one note... doesn't that hurt or sth?
Her belting at her prime was decent but since Confident her belting is nothing but painful to listen especially in Stone Cold
That's bc she has a chesty mix beside Ariana she has a heady mix
I’ve never liked her singing. It’s horrible. And live even worst
@@marlenelaravillegas for you
just because ariana has ease (sort of) in upper belts and doesn't exactly sound like she straining, does NOT mean she's a good technical singer, ariana fans....
Rose Al-Qatani Pelaez she's definitely talented, but definitely not a strong technical singer. I hope she gets her technique sorted soon
Rose Al-Qatani Pelaez she's not mediocre
swift 1989 lol a swiftie
Rose Al-Qatani Pelaez bull fucking shit
Rose Al-Qatani Pelaez I’d say generic is a better word for her. Nothing special imo, just another pop star. She’ll be a has been in a few years with the way she’s going. Just another Mariah Carey lol
Cue the butthurt fans lol your favorite musicians are humans. They are not perfect.
My thought too, ppl talking about their age and stuff plz
True
Yeah but you all are so fast to judge them on their bad performances but she doesn’t show how they have improved or any of their good performances in any other performances
Wtf you're judging Alicia Keys on her breath support and notes at Whitney Houston's funeral. I think she's allowed to sound like that if she's choking back tears....
Alicia has been screaming like that for years now...
+Azealia Jones 😂😂😂
You literally took somebody else's comment and copy and pasted
that is not the reason for alicias weak voice, ever since having the baby her voice has gotten very thin and her range is not what it used to be back in the early 2000s
Even before her baby... Alicia strained her voice a lot. And caused permanent damage.
people do realize that technique is the life of a singer right? you can utilize good and healthy techniques and still add stylistic choices... Whitney is considered a vocal legend. Hits like I Will Always Love You wouldn't be as iconic today without it.
fergie is so hard to listen to she’s just yelling
The fact that Tori was a part of the good examples made me so happy Tori has such solid vocal control I love her so much 💖💖
I'm so jealous of her control tbh, she deserves more attention than she gets. Her voice legit reminds me of a knife slicing through warm butter....
All of you complaining:
1. A good sounding belt is not always healthily placed
2. A healthily placed belt does not always sound good (usually, yes, but not always)
3. Most people who make youtube videos criticizing singers' belts and techniques don't take singing lessons, and just "learn" through other youtube videos (Im not saying this person is not a singer, I have no idea. Maybe they are, maybe not. But im just saying many people who run channels like this one are not singers.)
Don't be so butthurt, singers are human, they're not always gonna have perfect performances. And being a fan of someone does not mean you're gonna have your head up their asses and agree on everything they do and defend them at all cost even when you KNOW you're not being objective.
+ddlovogue True, I agree
your so right
It's just someone who thinks that they know everything like a pro
Exactly. Im a Lovatic and the reason why her voice is like that cause she has a problem with her throat or her tonsils or something witch means she has to go to the doctor all the time to check on her vocal cords. But that doesnt mean Demi cant pull of a high ass badass note am i right😎.
+TheBay Blade no demi got her tonsils out a long time ago. She just has damaged her voice honestly.
A lot of these new singers have no technique, it’s sad. They think they can get by because they have the a decent vocal range
Madison seems they're "getting by" just fine with their multiple albums and millions of dollars, soooo....
Yeah I agree you try doing what they are doing and do come back with that stupid response “I don’t want to be a singer” then DONT JUDGE THEM They are doing fine and Ariana and Demi (the main new singers) have improved their vocal technique over the years
You do know mariah carey exists, and alot of people says she has no talent, only her range. You sound really very condescending when you say things like that and generalize.
@@jaspersimon3363 I love Mariah Carey. But I'm not a fan of her live performances. Her technique is really good but i can't say she has a consistent higher range while singing live. She's extremely good at lows, her fluid transitions are awesome, and she's the queen of whistles, but i won't give it to her for high notes( though she supports them while hitting). While performing live, she uses all of her plus points and makes it up, but still it feels like music is missing in some parts of the song. Just my opinion :)
@@jaspersimon3363 So some people say dumb things, and?
Literally no mainstream singer under 30 can be said to have "good" technique much less "great". Even broading the field to "under 40", you're left with Beyoncé and like 2 or 3 others.
About Alicia... How would you feel if you had to sing right after you lost your best friend?
Are you penny wise?
How dare they include a FUNERAL performance. The disrespect...
okay no one is saying she sounded bad or even looking at the context she just didn’t have good techno
@@darkangel4994 yea but umm context kinda do matter and it seems not... morally right to put that here rather than just leave it alone considering the context?
Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy that’s not the point, she was literally holding back tears at a funeral, it’s just straight up disrespectful to put that in this video it’s not even about the singing
I can feel my throat hurting lol!
Same😂😂
Shit, me too... for some reason it always happens when i listen to singers try high notes...
Same wtf
yes exactly hahaha
Same
you should have added "sounds like a wild animal" to katy's
DEAD
+Christian Lewis sounds like a dead wild animal
+Saddiyah Armstrong 😂
+One Original Me hahaha stfu dumbass
TRUE LMAO
I'm just here making sure Jessie J isn't in the video
Saya She should have been though. She’s a great example for unsupported shouted singing.
Yea she is great I don't know why people don't talk about her.
K Musume I live in Brazil and a lot of people here think that she have a great technique lol
They never add her in anything . Im a jessie j fan and i will even appreciate that they added here lol jk
Jose Miranda I mean everyone has bad techniques sometimes but still sound amazing
Ariana Grande is the QUEEN of bad breath support
ungo
That's Demi 🙊🤷♀️
Nope, she sang a verse for 8 seconds with a 9 second verse after it on tour :) She has improved..
yes her breath support is back and it is improving but it still has long ways to go, if only her fans' support could provide her breath lmao honestly im so happy that she's almost there to supporting C5's in SWOTR
RyderC Daniels Ironically Ariana's belts here HAD good breath support, so your comment is stupid. It was her larynx placement and tension that's the problem.
Demi is just like ariana 😭😭 too much shouting and squeaking i cant
Dafuq.....
Uhmm no .
Yes!!!
if you didn't know, ariana was in tour for a year and her songs were mostly in the octaves. She kept singing them until she hurt her voice but she belted pretty well. Now in Ariana's performance's she's constantly shouting them because her voice has been temporarily damaged. Please realize that not ever singer has to be perfect and belt their notes pretty well. Ariana will be back soon but for now on, she can't help but scream them.
Demi and miley do seem like they're about to give birth tho . On the picture of the video
Ok the Alicia keys one I don't blame her. She was singing at Whitney Houstons funeral, and most likely had been crying before hand. So
I still don't understand how Aguilera can hit high notes with that raspy technique,is really hurtful even you aren't she.
Yereli Arzuza She's the only one that can that's why she's special
@@lamorosioriginals8216 thats not good boo
@@luciasaanunez7735 why? it's different, everyone likes it. apparently only you don't.
@@LuizHenrique-ze9em lmao im not trying to fight its just not healthy and bad for her. Im worrying for her
@@luciasaanunez7735 don’t worry for her she’s been doing it 20+ years those vocal cords are made of steel if she would’ve damage her voice it would’ve happened a long time ago.
5:46 how is she both shouting but also not giving enough power at the same time😭😭😭 it’s honestly impressive at that point
Guys, it's not just about the techniques. It's to keep their throat and diaphragm safe so that they can continue to sing properly. They literally stated that they liked these artists and sometimes it sounds really good, just that they were not taking proper precautions. Yes, emotion and soul are important aspects of singing, but you shouldn't be straining yourself to hit notes. Stop being so pissy because someone pointed out that it wasn't good for them.
This.
Some of y'all have got to chill. It's not whether the singer sounds good or bad, it's about if they're using good technique. You can use bad technique and still sound good, in my opinion. But bad technique is unhealthy and can potentially damage your vocal instrument. And for the people who ask who this person is to judge, one of the things you learn if you study singing is to listen to singers for bad technique. I used to tell everyone that they sounded good in vocal studio because I felt bad until my voice teacher tore me apart for being unhelpful. It's a skill you should know as a singer.
I'm just going to say this. How dare you put a clip of Alicia Keys singing at a FUNERAL when it is obvious that she is fighting back tears and trying to sing and then say she's "struggling and shouting notes"? Try again with a different clip then you can have room to judge.
Zach Oceguera well said
IT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE !!!!!
Another butthurt fan :vv
jollydiggernick But if all the videos were at funerals would it be still be reliable. If no, then yeah the other guy had a point
Its just dumb that literally the only example of alicia singing improperly was pulled from the funeral. Regardless of it being an example or not, it seems rude to critique her performance in that situation at all.
all the mad ariana stans. I love her too but yall are definitely not singers a high larynx is not good
Shut up bitch
Hahahaha they are pressed because their fave is not perfect
@@lalaje2098 like yours🤡
@Baddie Girl just saying, noone is perfect
@@STARNAPITY I know my fave is perrie edwards and she is not perfect, she strains a lot but she has a powerful voice that's why I luv her
Sorry, but if u studied singing, belting is NEVER meant to be the only way of singing because belting IS basically screaming. You should use it as a singing style where you throw one or two but not the whole song. You have incorrectly identified what is of high larynx and what is of low. Lady Gaga didn't belt, neither did Beyoncé. They were singing in their 'mix'. Fergie was singing high larynx at all the clips.
Just extremely annoyed at all these videos trying to put down different singers, thinking that you guys know what good singing is. You guys don't even sing, you are in no position to even comment what's good and bad. Belting is a style, not meant to be done all the time. It's basically screaming but with support and when done with good control, it doesn't damage anything.
+Dominic Christian THANK YOUUUUU
ABSOLUTELY. I knew this video was not gonna be entirely accurate when it showed Mariah who sang with bad technique for years. The correct way to pop out the high notes is to mix them. Gaga nailed it. Celine Dion is master at it (although when she does All By Myself she basically has to scream.)
yaasss ppl need to understand mixed voice. ppl constantly mistake a lot of belts as full voice. no
+The Life Of The Lambily Mix is when a singer mix both your head voice together their ur chest voice, most singers just scream the notes out when it reaches their fourth octave and get away with it because it sounds fine hahaha and that is belting. Mariah Carey mixes very well, not as of late but in her prime she was untouchable...
Right? These are good...
ok but ariana still fucking killed it 😍😍
yessssss
Yessssssssss
Ugh you people .
Yeah, like wtf is this bitch talking about how it was a bad belt
truuu😍
tori kelly's vocal control is legit crazy. ITS SO GOOD MY GODDDDD
I had no fucking clue fergie could sing like that
You mean NOT sing like that
Dangerous women was amazing idc
She was shouting ...
Bella Rodriguez I said "I don't care" singing or shouting it was amazing
+camilla avery yesss
agreed.
I"ll marry ariana
How do you know when their larynxes are high or low without seeing them? xD
+Lisandro Guevara x) You can hear the position of the larynx, I wish I could explain you but I'm French I don't know how to say that in English
+Litalici0us It's ok. I know more or less how it works.
+Litalici0us Est-ce que tu peux m'expliquer en français? Stp je veux savoir moi aussi.
+Cam 0599 Cool une francophone :p
Alors pour la position du larynx normalement elle doit être NEUTRE quand tu chantes. Quand une chanteuse le positionne en bas comme Madonna ou Britney qui le font SOUVENT c'est pour accentuer leur timbre de voix et "forcer" les notes.
Quand elles le positionnent en haut c'est pour atteindre des notes hautes même si elles se pètent les cordent vocales et on entend bien une tension dans les notes car elles tirent sur les cordes vocales.
Et pour le "breath support" je parle du souffle, quand tu chantes normalement avant tu inspires et tu comptes sur l'air que tu as mis dans ton diaphragme pour chanter, cest bénefique pour accentuer ou placer du vibrato
+Litalici0us et tu sais comment garder un larynx neutre?
i'm happy that ariana seems to be working on her bad belting technique, in 2019 she is supporting D5s, and the high larynx starts at F5, she's doing good on sweetener tour, but she needs a vocal coach to improve
Everyone all chill. Ur fav is still rich and producing awsome music lol. Some even still have grammays so it's whatever
Grammys? More like Scammys... ok I should stop.
The Grammy's are stupid, they don't know how to give the right people grammys
nileyfan1998
The grammys only are for the popular singers u:
Beyoncé and Ariana sounded amazing. And Gaga slays as always
+Lion O'Nrun hater on every Ariana video
+Lion O'Nrun she sounded like shit? lol, you're funny
+Lion O'Nrun you look like shit😂👌
+Ariana MoonlightBae stupid in every video
Yes
Songs are like that a song must have high notes . Ariana was awesome and great😍
+Ariana Grande Yes, in Ari's songs there are high notes but she doesn't reach them properly. About hitting notes she has a wide range but she is not awesome
yeah,i don't get this video they 're all good and amazing belts
+Samia Rial uh huh...see what ten years of singing notes that sound good but aren't sung properly will do to your average lyric soprano. Something can sound good and still be impressively unhealthy - just look at Christina Aguilera. Start of her career: hits high F and F# like nothing. Now: barely squeezed out an E, and that's pushing it. Her tonality has gone to shit, and she only sounds good anymore when her technique is good.
+Samia Rial she is not saying that they aren't good but she is saying they could be better with some adjustments. Trust me she knows what she is saying and she wasn't bashing anybody just saying they could have slight improvements. Plus in the world there are good singers with bad moments and there are bad singers with good moments
yesssssss
99% of the comments are about the butthurt fans
1% are actually butthurt fans
Those 99% smartasses should mind their own business😂😂💛
Andrei Simionas 😂
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏 they all are so quick to criticize them but they don’t know what it’s like for them or what they have to go through for example Demi lovato she has a drug problem and thank god she has recovered from an overdose but do you think that she’s on stage while singing worrying about having perfect belting technique she’s trying to make sure that she has enough emotion in her song if it’s an emotional song for example stone cold she is trying to make people feel what she is feeling she’s not saying to herself I have to raise my larynx here but not too much cause these fuckers on TH-cam will say I have bad technique otherwise like geez stop hating
@@jamesquinn1220 regardless of Demi Lovato's personal life, she SHOULD be worried about proper trchnique and not about sounding emotional in her songs. She's a singer, if she continues to scream in an attempt to sound impressive, she could damage her vocals
Garry Eagle first of all she didn’t scream she belts, so stfu about that and yes she should be worrying about technique but not in every performance like yes technique is a priority but in some performances it’s not a main one sounding emotional and getting the message through, “Anyone” for example she should be focusing more on putting emotion into her song instead of worrying about technique and don’t say she screams in an effort to impress everyone because she doesn’t even have to sing to impress everyone so shush
@@jamesquinn1220 actually, she should be worrying about proper technique in every performance, not just in some. She is a singer, it's her career. She can belt and still have good breath support, etc. but she doesn't. We aren't talking about other singers, we are talking specifically about Demi, though. If she keeps screaming like a banshee, she won't have a voice to sing with so you can stfu☺
Under an Ariana grande music video I said “she has a great voice but terrible vocal technique”, I deleted that comment because so many people were giving me hate because of it, I was legit concerned about her voice. You can still sound great with horrible technique.
And that.... you do understand it is hard but someone is allowed to give an opinion like that without being a singer themselves. Bet some ppl told you "oh are YOU a singer?! Huhhhh?!" "Its hard to do what she doesss" Or giving you a similiar crap just for saying it... aw man. I feel bad for ya. The fans should chill rlly esp if its sth that is true
She actually had good tehnicque when she was on Broadway,watch this video : th-cam.com/video/gFi7_LFG7OA/w-d-xo.html
The reason why it went downhill is that she left Broadway and she get pop vocal coach,pop singers don't need tehnicque.
But her tehnicque is improving now,she is better than past few years,listen to swt live vocals.She is getting better and better,maybe she will good as before in future,let's hope so.
Why they do that. Now I know Ariana fans are toxic not just about this but generally most are.
Professional vocal coaches say that Ariana has a solid technique. Ariana's supported range is from F#3 to F5. She projects her voice well. Her natural rolling vibrato can be heard in belts up to G#5 and as low as Bb3, suggesting a relaxed approach. She is able to move throughout the entirety of her range and between registers with ease.The highlight of her voice is her well-balanced mixed voice, which stretches up to Bb5’s reliably and consistently, a significant achievement for even professional soprano vocalists. Ariana can also resonate up to E5. Her falsetto is bright and reliable live up to E6.
Ariana still snatched wigs, Demi's performance on the Grammys was actually really good with her placement.
Some people blindly think if they're stars then they can definitely sing good. Nope.
Cough*Jacob Sartorius*Cough
+Gaby Hernandez Truuu
+Gaby Hernandez I may like Jacob but I agree he can't sing at all
+Marah Stokes yeah same here
Well said!
Miley Cyrus sounds amazing in my opinion but HELL she is damaging her vocals, you can hear at her Malibu live performances 2017 and she is belting with a bad technique, she sounds amazing, I mean I am a smiler myself but hell that high larynx will kill those vocals, I think she should focus on the amazingly resonant and healthy lower register she has.
Yeah I don't really care that she has a bad belting technique, her low register is AMAZING and one of the best in the industry, she doesn't even need to sing vocal songs in my opinion :-)
You were so right! Last year she's had vocal chord surgery and her doctor said she abused her chords like steven tyler by the end of his career
@@benalichante1269 exactly!
All of those larynx notes sound like they hurt. It also sounds like they’re ripping and damaging the vocal cords. I’ve never liked their sound and have always wondered why they choose to present a note that way? Someone with musical training please answer. I’d be very grateful.
Have you done one of these videos on Sia? When I hear her live, I think exactly what I just wrote - each and every time.
Yeah I drank some water after cause I feel like I'm hurting my own vocal cords.
Because they don't have muscle development and knowledge about singing
that is so disrepectful to put alicia keys preforming AT a funeral and critiquing her singing when she is extremely emotional. how disgusting.
I agree.
+RYAN JARED I agree.
She blew out her voice tho
hahahahaha wtf was that katy >.
ikr lol
ikr
haha yes
Katy was playing around.. But nice try though
That's Katy's Kat call a version of her roar lol
Demi Is Improving A lot after her Tmylm Tour so her technique is changed..💓💓😊😊
She's actually gotten worse since her tell me you love me tour, her support is more inconsistent
@@lukawolfgram9511 no
@@lukawolfgram9511 You're wrong, since tmylm is so better. She has progressed, as has Ariana and Tori
it's crazy how even when they're messing up they're amazing
Not really
Yess
Maybe to the untrained ear (which is most of the audience)
Amazing? God, raise your standards
even in rihannas bad moments she still killed that shit
YESSSS
ISSA AND MELANIE YES SLAY
Right
lmao you have to be joking
For those people saying their fav singer didn't deserve to be on this list, and they were singing perfectly,
take a moment and ask yourself how much you know about vocals, than take a seat. There are valid points
made about their execution such as larynx placement and breath support. You can't just overlook these things
and just say " (blank) did amazing why are they on this list?" THE REASONS R LITERALLY IN THE VIDEO!
THIS.
Yes. That's right. You said it best.
Now I keep imagine Chris Hansen from Dateline telling all these butthurt people defending their favorite singer to "take a seat." 😆😆😆
Thanks for adding all the description of what they were doing incorrectly! It's really helpful being able to hear the wrong sound and have an explanation why, makes it easy to learn to identify as you go farther through the video. Great for improving your own technique when listening to play back, thanks for the great reference! :)
When Christina sings the song I'M OK, it's such a personal song about her childhood, so, we can understand the flaws in her voice. The album version we can hear the flaws, she can't help being emotional. And the video of her singing this song, was actually the first time she sang the song after the album version. SO, I get her!
you can definitely hear the difference. Those who use proper technique it sounds smoother (not talking about style but quality of the notes) and it does not look like their straining. proper technique let's you sing and hit high notes comfortably. but I have noticed that a lot of singers recently shout out their notes instead of singing, and most people think it's normal but I can't listen to songs where their just shouting.
Yup
i love all the comments defending my girl ari...WARMS MY HEART!
well she slays
same
Amy still killed it. Going Under isnt easy to sing live espeacially if youre rocking out the entire show like Amy does
Amy Lee has such a rich and beautiful....if she coupled it up with a technically good voice she'd have been an unmatchable vocalist!
I know that Christina doesn't have the best technique,but there is no denying how amazing she sounds.she truly is the best female vocalist of her generation.
such a shame the creator showed the clip when she sings Im ok, a rendition that all the good technique singers would be jealous of. that raw emotion is worth the world!
The best? No. Sure good yea
This isn't a hate comment, or an die hard fan comment, but Ariana is mixing almost all of her high belts, she knows technique, because she had to sing 8 times a week on Broadway at age 14, she knows what she's doing, but I loved this video
+Christian Demetrius Kidd if she knew what she was doing she would know how to enunciate properly!
+LILRuthlessplaya88 that's just how pop music is, it's an artistic choice, when she sings Broadway, she enunciates much better
+Najeeb Khan whatever, no big deal, but she has been working on it, for exams her acapella dangerous woman, or the performances she did recently with Jason Robert brown
+Christian Demetrius Kidd Mixing is just the tip of the Iceberg. A good technique is based on a good vocal placement, breath support, resonance, neutral larynx, natural vibrato, entonation, relaxed tongue and mouth between others. Ariana is a little far from having a great technique but I hope she gets it eventually
I wish demi would do rock songs she would ughhh yass
She would do great
Making Spring rolls Her ‘Don’t Forget’ Album Is My Favorite ❤️
In her younger singing years she did kinda pop rock music but most people were saying that she was copying Hayley Williams(btw didn’t even realize who she was until I realized (well I think) she sings I’m into you and stay the night) but yeah people were saying that which is kinda stupid if you ask me
Rule number one: Breath dammit
Adrianna Hubbard Do you mean Breathe
Adrianna Hubbard Okay but serious note I’m an amateur vocalist and really struggle with this. I’m not conscious of my breathing at all! I forget to breathe when I’m talking sometimes. At least once a week I’ll get on a rant and only stop because my vision is going weird and then I realise I’ve only had a handful of short breaths the whole time 😂
No no no, Ariana shouldn't be there, everything you showed was perfect and had specific reasons she did it, dangerous woman, there is a lot of echo so she tried to use it and it was perfect and also she can hit those high notes
Exactly
+Asadullah Ibrahim he isn't saying that she can't I think he's just pointing out that her larynx is infact raised. however I would agree with you on the point that this isn't necessarily bad technique. It's only bad techniques if she's in pain. and she seems quite comfortable. The whole larynx thing is such a source of controversy in the sinking worlds. But just so you know...Barbara could hit all of those notes that Ariana hits without Lowering her Larynx...just a thought
notes sounded good (depending on taste) but damaging to vocal cords and notes won't be sounding good for much longer
Amen!
It's actually incredibly easy to hide strain with high larynx
I'm just gonna pretend Ariana and Beyoncé weren't in this video
Beyonce was in this video as a "correct way to belt" a note. But Ari slayssssss :)
Same
+The Morning After Diaries yasss
I'm a fan of both, but I don't think that means they are perfect and can't get any better. Everyone needs a little constructive criticism now and then :)
ehm
OMG! THANK YOU!! AS A VOCAL MUSICIAN I NEEDED TO WATCH, READ AND LISTEN TO YOUR VIDEO! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER! XOXOXOXO
Everyone shut up let the music experts talk
I dont know if the person who made this video is a music expert or vocal coach to be honest with you.
YeaH THE PERSON WHO MADE THIS IS BASIC
you mean a vocal expert? Not a music expert.
Why do people not realize that the video is just to show bad technique. Someone can sound amazing while using a bad technique. The video isn't bashing anyone only showing examples. Goodness...
Here's the deal. Unless you're a vocal coach, or a student studying singing, you can't judge whether or not someone has good technique. Just because someone raises their head or looks like their struggling doesn't mean they are actually struggling or using bad technique. Sometimes it's just the singer showing emotion or being dramatic when they singing. Being a student who has been studying vocal technique, I can tell you that probably half of these singers were using a healthy technique. Plus, to compare them to the singers who were "using good technique" when they were all hitting notes in the 4th and lower half of the 5th octave, while everyone else in the video was singing in the mid/upper 5th octave is unfair. (Not to mention you used a clip of Mariah, even though her technique destroyed her voice. Even my vocal coach used her as an example of bad technique.) Not a hate comment, just an education comment.
RonnieLovesDemi RLD 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 finally someone who understands thiss thank uuu
I saw in a video of a vocal coach (who used videos of two other vocal coaches to support his words) that raising the chin actually can help avoiding high larynx. Also I think Maria's voice got damaged due to her nodules that she decided to help by drinking.
Yeag
Yeah
Yeah i agree about you that's called stage presence
I love how you put Tori's next to those Legends at the first part 😍
Wow, people are so touchy. Even the greatest singers don't sing great ALL the time. It's actually really refreshing because we're so used to hearing the edited and perfect versions of songs on the radio, but they are people and they can have an off performance just like the rest of us. Makes me appreciate them more.
Ariana has been faking her tone since 2013, her natural voice is much more deep. I bet that's why she hasn't given a decent belt since then.
I agree and I think her voice sounds much better deeper
if she did that she wouldn't have a singing career right now, her voice was damaged bc of the tone she had to use to interpretate Cat Valentine, she wasn't really using belting techniques at the time and always lowered her larynx. Also when doing covers, she was kinda trying to sound more like the original singer she has damaged her voice but it has matured into the voice she has now. If you search on youtube Ariana Grande singing disney songs on sc you can clearly see that she lowered her larynx on that F3 in order to make it sound "big". idk just my opinion on that last part of the comment.
em her tessitura is naturally high, in fact it's really high
em her tessitura is naturally high, in fact it's really high
+Justine Ferrer it had nothing to do with Cat Valentine... Lmao she sings a lot and most singers damage their vocal cords somewhere down the line and that's what happened. She's a soprano, talking breathy like Cat isn't a problem, she is just always at work with her high notes and without proper technique sometimes it can effect her vocal chords. Smh all these new Arianators blaming everything on Cat lmao.
This video is actually super helpful and educational. It even stated at the start of the video that the 'bad technique' singers don't sound bad, they just have bad *technique*. As an amateur singer it is very useful to be able to tell the difference between techniques and what is good for your voice. Thank you for this video.
They honestly sound horrific to me. I've been doing a s*** ton of pitch training. That was legitimately painful for me to hear. It's really crazy because 3 days ago I wouldn't have thought it was that bad. The Fergie one was always a hot mess we all knew that. I record myself singing and while I have the vocal range in head voice, when I try to Belt it sounds just like that. Yeah, you're hitting the notes but it's so freaking Sharp. Piercing
1:59 wow Fergie can actually do the anthem
I felt pain watching these because it destroys your voice if you do it wrong. I lost my voice after doing too many belts incorrectly and had a long time before I could attempt doing another again.
Ariana and Demi are still fucking awesome
Some of these improper techniques were done on purpose.
"Demi and Ariana are the best vocalist of this generation". that's why I keep listening to Barbra, Aretha, Mariah and Whitney
We all know that’s tori kelly
Ariana actually had good tehnicque and she had beautiful voice when she was on Broadway,watch this video : th-cam.com/video/gFi7_LFG7OA/w-d-xo.html
The reason why it went downhill is that she left Broadway and she get pop vocal coach,pop singers don't need tehnicque.
But her tehnicque is improving now,she is better than past few years,listen to swt live vocals.She is getting better and better,maybe she will good as before in future,let's hope so.
I mean Ariana and Demi really remain right now, especially nowadays lmao. During TMTYLM and Sweetener Tour, their voices, especially Demi, improved so much. I can trust their voices lasting throughout their careers now. The notes that they are hitting now are just open and easy for them.
Jojo Levesque is technically above them.
@@archive2500 Demi Lovato is just average. It's beyond me how some people describe her as an AMAZING singer
20 years in the industry though and Xtina still has one of the best voices out there, thanks to her bad technique.
Thank you for this! My mom is a speech-language pathologist and she always comments on bad techniques! She actually called the nodes in Sam Smith and Adele before they came out to the public with having them because she could hear the bad technique and the nodules forming when she heard them sing!
Damn
I think Ariana and Demi killed it and ik this is not a hate vid but still , they shouldn't even be mentioned on a vid that has something to do with 'how bad singers are' (don't attack me plz😂) I'm mainly an Ariana fan but Demi is amazing as well !!xx
they aren't bad singers! but they got bad technique when it comes to breathing and posture! that's why they're bad. they sound good but they are harming there vocal chords. only choir singers and people that teach the singers (coordinators) know this and what it means
Ikr Ariana was too good
+Brittney Garcia read Justin Damron s reply above , they explain this better then I will 😂
+Jasmine Ariana doesn't damage her voice though , she has always assured that she won't hurt herself
Yes, they will likely lose their voice in a few years if they keep singing with improper technique. But honestly, it’s the singer’s choice how they want to do it. I think it’s a stylistic choice of each singer, simply because they want to achieve a certain sound in their music. We can point this all out as much as we want, but it’s really not going to change anything, other than maybe the stans that think their fave is the best and they can see them in the poor examples list and see where they need to improve.
jeez nicole sherzinger looked like she was about to birth a diamond with the amount of strain she looked like she was under singing like that