One other fairly major issue I've had with Lists is the "synced by default" function. For anyone who's got OneDrive syncing on their device, any list they interact with (regardless of where it lives) is automatically synced. I've seen this cause significant problems with date/time columns in particular. It's also led to a lot of confusion in some "high churn" lists where one user's sync process was undoing changes made by others to the same items. That's happened less often, but still pops up from time to time. I've just gotten in the habit of setting "Offline client availability" to No for mission-critical lists.
This is great video and keep them coming. I am from Lists product team and we were not able to reproduce below issues. For rest we are planning improvements so thanks for push. Do you still below issues still? 1. Background color in Lists is not theme-able - 2. Deleting items results in list empty message 3. Filter panel only providing options from current list of items shown instead of all values .. Is this happening on certain column types?
I can speak to item 3, which we shared information about in this GitHub issue, including a video that shows the behavior: github.com/SharePoint/sp-dev-docs/issues/9910
For some reason I can't see my previous reply. For item 3, yes we shared a detailed video on the GitHub issue 9910 on the sp-dev-docs issue. Let's see if this comment shows up. (I've tried several times and cannot include a link in the comments, I'll update the video description and include it there)
I should also add, if you update the template for your content type, you need to "publish" again, or it will continue to use the old template. This is because the template is actually being copied to each site collection where the content type is being used.
Very interesting video I have seen the new list layout during the summer but somehow it is gone again. I also found out that the filtering only works till 5000 items on api so you need special views. And this you will need to setup in PowerAutomate. And after delete over the 5000 items you have to wait before the cached is emptied. And the details pane was really a pain in the new lists experience
They have deployed and pulled back a few times, I believe, because they spotted issues. There are also several types of customizations that prevent the new List UI from appearing; this is on a list by list basis. Filtering is just a bit of a mess. Hopefully they will get this stuff fixed soon.
With regard to the updated Microsoft Lists UI appearing and disappearing that would be because you have some type of SPFx extension (or other customization) on the list which the newer Microsoft Lists UI cannot handle and so it was automatically dropping back to the modern lists experience. That wasn't going well and there were a lot of issues raised about it. They are attempting to start the rollout again and if you see issues they're looking to get the feedback on this github issue: github.com/SharePoint/sp-dev-docs/issues/9944
@@juliemturner that is really interesting because I don’t have any customization on there checked multiple tenants maybe it is due to a European tenant
@@kbworks_eu Huh... interesting.. I have no idea but I know the Microsoft Lists UI is theoretically supposed to be rolled out everywhere except if you have any classic features or customizations enabled that aren't supported.
This was great! No BS or MS cheerleading. Calling out what really hurts in the field with poor UX and design choices.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed our presentation (and antics I suppose too)
One other fairly major issue I've had with Lists is the "synced by default" function. For anyone who's got OneDrive syncing on their device, any list they interact with (regardless of where it lives) is automatically synced. I've seen this cause significant problems with date/time columns in particular. It's also led to a lot of confusion in some "high churn" lists where one user's sync process was undoing changes made by others to the same items. That's happened less often, but still pops up from time to time. I've just gotten in the habit of setting "Offline client availability" to No for mission-critical lists.
We had a fun time recording this one, so much list and library content -- wish I could say "goodness". Come for the laughs, stay for the content!
We even let Todd go first!
This is great video and keep them coming. I am from Lists product team and we were not able to reproduce below issues. For rest we are planning improvements so thanks for push. Do you still below issues still?
1. Background color in Lists is not theme-able -
2. Deleting items results in list empty message
3. Filter panel only providing options from current list of items shown instead of all values .. Is this happening on certain column types?
I can speak to item 3, which we shared information about in this GitHub issue, including a video that shows the behavior: github.com/SharePoint/sp-dev-docs/issues/9910
For some reason I can't see my previous reply. For item 3, yes we shared a detailed video on the GitHub issue 9910 on the sp-dev-docs issue. Let's see if this comment shows up. (I've tried several times and cannot include a link in the comments, I'll update the video description and include it there)
this is the link: github.com / SharePoint / sp-dev-docs / issues / 9910
I should also add, if you update the template for your content type, you need to "publish" again, or it will continue to use the old template. This is because the template is actually being copied to each site collection where the content type is being used.
Very interesting video I have seen the new list layout during the summer but somehow it is gone again. I also found out that the filtering only works till 5000 items on api so you need special views. And this you will need to setup in PowerAutomate. And after delete over the 5000 items you have to wait before the cached is emptied. And the details pane was really a pain in the new lists experience
They have deployed and pulled back a few times, I believe, because they spotted issues. There are also several types of customizations that prevent the new List UI from appearing; this is on a list by list basis.
Filtering is just a bit of a mess. Hopefully they will get this stuff fixed soon.
@@MarcDAnderson Fully agree on that. I must say I love the new layout only miss the pane for the item. ^Paul Keijzers
With regard to the updated Microsoft Lists UI appearing and disappearing that would be because you have some type of SPFx extension (or other customization) on the list which the newer Microsoft Lists UI cannot handle and so it was automatically dropping back to the modern lists experience. That wasn't going well and there were a lot of issues raised about it. They are attempting to start the rollout again and if you see issues they're looking to get the feedback on this github issue: github.com/SharePoint/sp-dev-docs/issues/9944
@@juliemturner that is really interesting because I don’t have any customization on there checked multiple tenants maybe it is due to a European tenant
@@kbworks_eu Huh... interesting.. I have no idea but I know the Microsoft Lists UI is theoretically supposed to be rolled out everywhere except if you have any classic features or customizations enabled that aren't supported.
This week my views are back to drop downs. Along with a few other changes, some of which broke my list! 🎉😢
Sadly, the lists issues continue, and it's really unfortunate.