What was that skill book in Skyrim called again, "Proper Lock Design"? It specifically called out that occasionally someone would simply smash the container open, leaving its quality lock behind, perfectly intact.
I like how lock picking works in Fallout and Skyrim too, if there's a simple realistic videogame interpretation of what you expect to do, use it, no tedious mini games just to make it arbitrarily harder when god forbid hacking gets involved, hacking's alright in Fallouth though. Fuck Bioshock and Oblivion.
@@ultnash those lockpicking minigames suck on account of them being dependent on player skill instead of character skill. They're supposed to be RPGs, which means the character is seperate from you.
@@ultnash the tube mini game has followed me since childhood and the hacking one of fallout was never that bad imo. But I am weird and can’t seem to do the disco mini game in yakuza if my life depends on it.
@@emmw7794Daggerfall only sold 700000 copies compared to Skyrim who sold 60 million. It cant be that great of a game, since Daggerfall also only has 17000 followers on twitch, Skyrim has 2.5 million.
When you think about it, Oblivion's lockpicking minigame was the closest to reality. Unless your idea of lockpicking is ignoring the lock and just smashing the door down.
@@seth4321Quite true, although I believe the speed was defined by a randomizing system found in the game, so it can vary, but normally follows a similar pattern. The number of times the pick goes up slowly increases the higher your lockpicking skill is, so with a good trainer and the Skeleton Key it shouldn't take too long to unlock a door or container manually
This is the lockpicking Wizard and today we have a master level lock here in the imperial city little click out of one two is binding three we fell into a false set little click on four and we used a master level open lock spell because fuck this minigame.
that reminds me of Arcanum where your other option was to break your weapons in attempt to break the locked object... well often it was better than turn around and walk home
By the time i finished Skyrim, I had 400+ lockpicks. Bought and looted every one i foubd. Never even took the perk to not break them. Only quicksaved/reloaded a little in the start. They add up quick. 😅
Peak Daggerfall is when the enemy hears you on the other side of the door, and so the two of you are just wailing on either side of the locked door in a bloodthirsty frenzy to fight each other
Lockpicking in Oblivion: Elegant, sleek, immersive, skillful, chic. Lockpicking in Morrowind: Spam that button until it opens or run out of lockpicks Lockpicking in Daggerfall: SMASH THAT SHIT OPEN! Lockpicking in Skyrim: Can you connect the two dots? :D
@@bierwolf8360 daggerfall door smashing was cool but actually trying to pick locks was a pain vs just getting a strong open spell to break into stores undetected by the law and burgle so many cities blind that you make literal millions of gold selling everything to the worst pawn shop in middle of nowhere so you have some cash to level lockpicking up and use enchantments to get your lockpicking skill above 100% and go to a dungeon and read "this lock is an insult to your ablities" before your character laughs as they proceed to make quick work of the lo- oh wait "it does not unlock" welp
Yup. As soon as I learned that tapping the tumblers until it moves super rapidly means that the next tap will be relatively slow 90% of the time made me break very few lockpicks from that point forward.
It's cool that it allows you to rely not just on skill level of your character, but your own real life skill, so you can try and open hard level locks while your lockpicking skill is novice.
I started out with 4 in lockpicking in Daggerfall which of course meant that even the simplest locks had nothing to fear from me. After plenty of practice I now laugh at those locks.
@@UlvenTES I had to smash the doors at first and take classes in lockpicking. I have a mod that adds archeologists guild and they The House of Dibella, The school of Julianos and Thieves' guild offers training. Now I can actually pick the lock, use a spell and if it’s too difficult for me it’s back to bashing.
"This lock has nothing to fear from you..." Aaaaah sweet glorious memories. Ah, wait, I still play Daggerfall pretty much every year, so let's bash that darn door down once again! 😀
I'm a 6'5'' high elf. My hand fits entirely around the skull of anyone that levels lockpicking. I'm not twiddling some thin piece of metal in a keyhole, Todd.
See i like oblivions , yeah it can be tricky at first but its actually a skill issue that gets easier as you level and gain actual experience Its nice to be able to pick all locks from the beginning
it's unimmersive af. The skill of the player shouldn't factor into the success of the character (outside of character building). If you have a Breton with parkinson's, your character shouldn't be able to pick the lock, even if you (the player) have godlike dexterity
@@bierwolf8360 i mean, by that logic elder scrolls games are unimmersive af overall, cause you can cheese through hard battles and such. Better experience can be brought by crpgs rather than arpgs
Oblivion lockpicking was the most fun as a mini game, Skyrim made it just a copy of Fallouts where you aren't picking anything you are just creatively forcing the lock open. Morrowind and Daggerfall take out the minigame and just use pure stats.
I thought oblivion lock picking was super easy. I can’t quite explain it, but there is a certain way the pin moves that tells you it will stay when you lock it in.
@@UlvenTES I agree. Skyrim lockpicking was just trial and error, and I think it actually has less in common with real lock picking. I liked seeing that I was locking individual pins into place, especially because I have had a lock eat a pick because I messed up and the pins locked down on it. Lockpicking is a knowledge based skill, and Morrowind represented that accurately, too. Admittedly it was frustrating in the beginning, but that’s what it’s like for beginners in real life.
On my old desktop, I often smashed through locked doors in TES Arena, which was similar to Daggerfall but simpler and not as good...ofc, it does slightly damage your weapon though. I still need to get Daggerfall somehow, is it free from the site like Arena? Idk if my stupid cheap finicky newish HP laptop will run it though, it's hit and miss with older games. Morrowind and Oblivion are on point. 🤣
You are bringing all the lock’s tumblers to the top. They hit the top, you hit the button. Once they are all at the top, the box with the shiny stuff opens
Unironically wish skyrim wouldve let you shout doors down, , ,like non important ones, wouldve made for a great "well now wasnt that stealthy" comment from someone
Actually Daggerfall (and Arena) does have a lockpicking mechanic. Switch to "steal" interaction and click on a locked door (or container). No lockpics needed. The downside is that if you fail once or a couple of times, the game will tell you you can't pick the lock anymore, meaning that your options are either bashing or magic. Nonetheless, it was far superior to the later games, where they removed bashing.
@@aquarius5264 Oblivion is the worst because success is determined by the player's skill instead of the character's. It's an RPG (allegedly) and thus your personal dexterity and patience shouldn't be a factor: your character's stats should.
Thank you so much for the 3000 subscribers :)
movie name?
What movie ? @@relskull3324
@@UlvenTES i mean man break door 0:49
edit: i found it
@@relskull3324 It's Rampage Jackson on a UFC TV show
The lock has nothing to fear. The door itself, on the other hand..
What was that skill book in Skyrim called again, "Proper Lock Design"? It specifically called out that occasionally someone would simply smash the container open, leaving its quality lock behind, perfectly intact.
time to make a thief Nord with a giant war hammer.
"This lock has nothing to fear"
*Pulls out mace*
Oh it's got A LOT to fear
"There is nothing to fear but door itself"
"This lock has nothing to fear from you..." *laughs in Nord*
The lock has nothing to fear, the door on the other hand...
I like how lock picking works in Fallout and Skyrim too, if there's a simple realistic videogame interpretation of what you expect to do, use it, no tedious mini games just to make it arbitrarily harder when god forbid hacking gets involved, hacking's alright in Fallouth though. Fuck Bioshock and Oblivion.
@@ultnash those lockpicking minigames suck on account of them being dependent on player skill instead of character skill. They're supposed to be RPGs, which means the character is seperate from you.
@@bierwolf8360This guy gets it.
@@ultnash the tube mini game has followed me since childhood and the hacking one of fallout was never that bad imo. But I am weird and can’t seem to do the disco mini game in yakuza if my life depends on it.
Lockpicking is kinda useless in Morrowind when your alteration skill is good, but in Daggerfall you can just smash the doors 👍
One thing i liked about Morrowind is you could enchant your way around anything. Once you have enough money, enchant a ring to unlock everything.
Daggerfall is the goat.
@@emmw7794HALT
@@emmw7794Daggerfall only sold 700000 copies compared to Skyrim who sold 60 million. It cant be that great of a game, since Daggerfall also only has 17000 followers on twitch, Skyrim has 2.5 million.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Are you trying to be funny? 🤣
When you think about it, Oblivion's lockpicking minigame was the closest to reality.
Unless your idea of lockpicking is ignoring the lock and just smashing the door down.
Actually it was very easy once you realise it has few types of animation. You just have to click on the slower one
@@gustanoid Yes!! And a fast animation is almost always followed by a slow one. So you can create a bit of a rhythm and nail it quite consistently.
@@seth4321Quite true, although I believe the speed was defined by a randomizing system found in the game, so it can vary, but normally follows a similar pattern. The number of times the pick goes up slowly increases the higher your lockpicking skill is, so with a good trainer and the Skeleton Key it shouldn't take too long to unlock a door or container manually
@@matiasvonbischhoffshausen1307 Interesting!! Thanks for the information!
This is the lockpicking Wizard and today we have a master level lock here in the imperial city
little click out of one
two is binding
three we fell into a false set
little click on four
and we used a master level open lock spell because fuck this minigame.
Ah yes my favorite lockpick in daggerfall, the elven warhammer
''This lock has nothing to fear from you.''
I'll teach you fear.
Vegeta to the lock: DO YOU AFRAID?
BAZINGATTACK
Yes! MORE DAGGERFALL MEMES! That games doesn't get enough love.
I hope this game will never die :)
@@UlvenTES make daggerfall great again)
@@infinityhash1 it already has with unity, remember? you can make that shit look like DOS or an xbox 360 indie game lmao.
that feeling when your last lockpick has broken
that reminds me of Arcanum where your other option was to break your weapons in attempt to break the locked object... well often it was better than turn around and walk home
Quicksave and reload = infinite lockpicks 😂
@@Avrelivs_Goldarcanum, epic game
By the time i finished Skyrim, I had 400+ lockpicks. Bought and looted every one i foubd. Never even took the perk to not break them. Only quicksaved/reloaded a little in the start. They add up quick. 😅
@@Sigurther Skyrim is easy mode. Nobody cares how you amassed so many lock picks
Peak Daggerfall is when the enemy hears you on the other side of the door, and so the two of you are just wailing on either side of the locked door in a bloodthirsty frenzy to fight each other
old game designs were superior
today you unlock stuff with your moms credit card
Locked with an enchanted lock.
Requires premium lockpicks, only 9.99$!
True.
@@Shimamon27i vaguely remember playing several playstore games that actually did in fact have paid keys
The compressed audio was a great touch, and that lockpick minigame struggle was super nostalgic
What do you mean by compressed audio ?
@@UlvenTES You didn't compress the dude utterly destroying the door to fit the part?
Lockpicking in Oblivion: Elegant, sleek, immersive, skillful, chic.
Lockpicking in Morrowind: Spam that button until it opens or run out of lockpicks
Lockpicking in Daggerfall: SMASH THAT SHIT OPEN!
Lockpicking in Skyrim: Can you connect the two dots? :D
Daggerfall > Morrowind >> rest of that list (in this regard)
This fan gets it!
With Morrowind I think you could savescum and never lose a lockpick, but it was incredibly time consuming.
@@krashd tbf, the same could be said about any lockpick method, just with less time consumed probably.
@@bierwolf8360 daggerfall door smashing was cool but actually trying to pick locks was a pain vs just getting a strong open spell to break into stores undetected by the law and burgle so many cities blind that you make literal millions of gold selling everything to the worst pawn shop in middle of nowhere so you have some cash to level lockpicking up and use enchantments to get your lockpicking skill above 100% and go to a dungeon and read "this lock is an insult to your ablities" before your character laughs as they proceed to make quick work of the lo- oh wait
"it does not unlock"
welp
My daedric dai-katana's honest reaction:
0:48 Aggressive lockpicking.
"it would be a miracle if you'd pick this lock" damn right it would
Lmao
Daggerfall music always hits just right
If Oblivion had Skyrim's torque mechanic then it would truly be the most realistic lockpicking mini game.
The fact that lockpicks break so quickly wouldn't be super realistic, though it's a good game mechanic
"This Lock has nothing to fear from you...."
*pulls out my Greatsword* are you sure about that?!
The lock didn't but the door did : )
God I remember watching Rampage do that to the door on Ultimate Fighter years ago, perfect clip for that.
Lockpicking in Oblivion is very easy, yet requires observation and patience. Khajiit knows many things - others do not.
Yup. As soon as I learned that tapping the tumblers until it moves super rapidly means that the next tap will be relatively slow 90% of the time made me break very few lockpicks from that point forward.
It's cool that it allows you to rely not just on skill level of your character, but your own real life skill, so you can try and open hard level locks while your lockpicking skill is novice.
I started out with 4 in lockpicking in Daggerfall which of course meant that even the simplest locks had nothing to fear from me.
After plenty of practice I now laugh at those locks.
Plenty of practice does it mean smashing the door or ... ?
@@UlvenTES I had to smash the doors at first and take classes in lockpicking. I have a mod that adds archeologists guild and they The House of Dibella, The school of Julianos and Thieves' guild offers training. Now I can actually pick the lock, use a spell and if it’s too difficult for me it’s back to bashing.
@@KimberlyKjellbergget gud scrub
@@MaxPower-ke5rq I already did, so your comment is a bit late. But good effort.
@@KimberlyKjellberg Man waited 3 months to drool that out in your direction, lmao
The only true way to play Stealth in Morrowind is by using
Magic.
Somehow true ahah
The skeleton key in oblivion always came in clutch
Feel like I’m the only person that liked the Oblivion lock picking mechanic
It's the best in my opinion
And then there are mods to fus-ro-dah the door.
I´m so glad you are including Daggerfall to your videos :) I´m sure you will find plenty of shenanigans xD
Yes Daggerfall is amazing :)
Lock: Nothing to fear
Me: It's Rampage time
lockpicking in skyrim: open console, write 'unlock'. if you are lazy to open then the unlocked door, just write 'disable'.
Also works with Morrowind and Oblivion :p
That moment from TUF was legendary. Great season
"This lock has nothing to fear from you..." Aaaaah sweet glorious memories. Ah, wait, I still play Daggerfall pretty much every year, so let's bash that darn door down once again! 😀
So true. Breaking down doors in Daggerfall is a great alternative, which was purposefully cut from following games.
And Skyrim is the vid of a teacher, doing the perfect circle on a chalkboard.
It's like Skyrim enigmas in Ancient Nord ruins, a 3 years old child would solve them
You can find scrolls that will open locks in Morrowind. I just use those.
Yes, personally I use open spells instead of lockpicks
I miss Oblivion lockpicking
i never used lockpicking in oblivion I either got the skeleton key at lvl 1 or used spells to open doors. fuck Oblivion lockpicking
Can’t wait for the Daggerfall VR mod.
The moment it said "Daggerfall" I already knew what was going to happen. Just bust the whole damn door down LMAO
That Daggerall one got me joked LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LIKE THIS MEME, WHY IS IT SO ACCURATE
You know theres a spell that opens locked doors in oblivion
Of course ahah
Its been a long time since I saw Rampage Jacksons match against the door
Based on the thumbnail I knew it’d be good
NOT THIS MEME TEACHING ME I CLULD DO THIS HAHAH
Ahahah I found this by accident, Daggerfall is full of surprise
I'm a 6'5'' high elf. My hand fits entirely around the skull of anyone that levels lockpicking. I'm not twiddling some thin piece of metal in a keyhole, Todd.
I wonder what the wayward realms will be like. Hope you can break down the doors down.
In Morrowind if you lock pick the locks and not just the door planks it works almost everytime
See i like oblivions , yeah it can be tricky at first but its actually a skill issue that gets easier as you level and gain actual experience
Its nice to be able to pick all locks from the beginning
it's unimmersive af. The skill of the player shouldn't factor into the success of the character (outside of character building). If you have a Breton with parkinson's, your character shouldn't be able to pick the lock, even if you (the player) have godlike dexterity
@@bierwolf8360sorry bro misread and deleted cause I realized we were on the same side
@@bierwolf8360 i mean, by that logic elder scrolls games are unimmersive af overall, cause you can cheese through hard battles and such.
Better experience can be brought by crpgs rather than arpgs
Every lock is gAngsta untill you take your mace!^^
I have not been able to pick a single lock in oblivion because my hearing is the opposite of bat's
You can also watch the lock moving slower ;)
This is why in Oblivion you just mash auto attempt.
Yes
yes
🍺😂👍
Skyrim: "Why i should skill lockpicking?" (i never see a reason to skill it even as thief you just need to have enough patience :D )
hence why it's a garbage mechanic
You can just save and load, easy
@@UlvenTES Or be me and run around with over 1000 Lockpick because i ALWAYS buy all of the lockpicks when i have to sell something :D
I play BG3 multi-player and my friend always gets mad when I break stuff instead of waiting for him to lockpick.
Oblivion lockpicking was the most fun as a mini game, Skyrim made it just a copy of Fallouts where you aren't picking anything you are just creatively forcing the lock open. Morrowind and Daggerfall take out the minigame and just use pure stats.
I thought oblivion lock picking was super easy. I can’t quite explain it, but there is a certain way the pin moves that tells you it will stay when you lock it in.
Exactly there is a sound cue and a visual clue but it's way more interesting than Skyrim lock picking system
@@UlvenTES
I agree. Skyrim lockpicking was just trial and error, and I think it actually has less in common with real lock picking. I liked seeing that I was locking individual pins into place, especially because I have had a lock eat a pick because I messed up and the pins locked down on it. Lockpicking is a knowledge based skill, and Morrowind represented that accurately, too. Admittedly it was frustrating in the beginning, but that’s what it’s like for beginners in real life.
i just reload save in morrowind for door rng lol
I do it for chests in order to get the best loot lmao
On my old desktop, I often smashed through locked doors in TES Arena, which was similar to Daggerfall but simpler and not as good...ofc, it does slightly damage your weapon though.
I still need to get Daggerfall somehow, is it free from the site like Arena? Idk if my stupid cheap finicky newish HP laptop will run it though, it's hit and miss with older games.
Morrowind and Oblivion are on point. 🤣
In DF, the interaction needs to be in steal mode to have one attempt to lockpick. Otherwise a war hammer will do the trick.
True story
arcanum has the same variety of solutions.
seems like games just don't bother with freedom anymore
Forgot the quick save quick reload when you break all lock picks
so sick of these ancient games being both more realistic and true to the world when compared to modern ones
I still don't understand how the minigame works in oblivion so I just end up spamming auto attempt and breaking all my lockpicks
You fkn what mate?? It’s STUPID easy!
You are bringing all the lock’s tumblers to the top. They hit the top, you hit the button. Once they are all at the top, the box with the shiny stuff opens
You roll play Nord don’t you?
@@MaxPower-ke5rqok
Unironically wish skyrim wouldve let you shout doors down, , ,like non important ones, wouldve made for a great "well now wasnt that stealthy" comment from someone
yea but morrowind and daggerfall had open lock spells.
Can someone tell me the soundtrack used for each??
its the soundtrack from each game.
i dont know the names of specific pieces
Wait people have a hard time lockpicking in oblivion?
Actually Daggerfall (and Arena) does have a lockpicking mechanic. Switch to "steal" interaction and click on a locked door (or container). No lockpics needed. The downside is that if you fail once or a couple of times, the game will tell you you can't pick the lock anymore, meaning that your options are either bashing or magic. Nonetheless, it was far superior to the later games, where they removed bashing.
Personally I find skyrim lockpicking worse than oblivion
And you are right
Never seemed to have a problem with oblivion, only with M&K is it unbearable.
Lockpicking in Oblivion ` Player.additem a 10000 *force lock* I'm not learning that shit.
ty for not mentioning skyrim my life is better for it.
oblivion is fun , morowind is shit and daggerfall is bad ass
"Morrowind is shit" 🥺
it's like they made it harder and more realistic each game until fucking skyrim had to come along with its ridiculously easy lockpicking
...it's only degraded. No more spells or brute force. Y A W N.
@@bierwolf8360 oblivion probably has the most realistic out of every elder scrolls game, doesn't need spells or brute force
@@aquarius5264 Oblivion is the worst because success is determined by the player's skill instead of the character's. It's an RPG (allegedly) and thus your personal dexterity and patience shouldn't be a factor: your character's stats should.
@@bierwolf8360 not really, security skill makes lockpicking way easier
Skyrim wasnt in this one cause lockpicking in skyrim is a joke.
Obviously
The use of 15fm.mid for the Daggerfall segment was absolute CLASS.
Thanks :))
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