Mona has already earned a special place in my heart for finally getting me the "cowabunga it is" achievement. So thanks, reptile girl that is cuter than she probably should be.
I haven't gotten the DLC yet but thank you so much for doing these! The original video (and dimension shellshock vid) were so, so informative-- things I'd noticed between characters and seen in-game but couldn't quantify or explain, couldn't really.... *understand* without your highly detailed videos! I love Shredder's Revenge, got the Platinum before the first dlc announced and these videos are so incredible, I definitely credit them for my knowledge and skill 👏 👏
When I fought shredder as Mondo so I could see his ending, I was not expecting to be able to jump off of walls, and I started freaking out because I wasn’t sure that I had ever even tried to wall jump with any other character
i wasnt sure if it was a glitch or if it was intentional when i did it the first time, but finding out mondo can do his backflip super mid air has maybe locked him in for me as my new main
I found Mona Lisa to have higher survivability than Mondo Gecko. Sometimes Mondo's ground super doesn't kill the enemy if they get knocked out of range. They are both fun to play as though.
@@storyrant and that is very fun to do, but mona can just blow 'em up and do just as much damage. It all changes depending on how many players and the difficulty. I usually play as Mondo because I have more fun with him. Like you said, cheesing the bosses with the jump kicks. It's the coolest thing I have ever witnessed in the game.
I love that they got added by fan demand, despite the game being pretty much over. I wonder, have they altered Mona Lisa's cameo in Survival Mode if she's the character you play as?
I like your Shredder's Revenge character analysis videos. Hope to see such videos for some of my favorite beat'em ups like Comix Zone, Little Fighter 2, Denjin Makai 2, Alien vs. Predator, The Outfoxies, Battletoads (NES version) and Fight'N Rage. And for some run and guns also maybe like Elevator Action Returns, Contra: Hard Corps and Huntdown. Well just suggestions. ^_^
I think that is why both Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa were chosen. Theyre relatively unknown, in fact i'd argue Venus is more well known than the two of them put together. If Hothead were in Mondo Gecko's spot (some of his moveset is kind of like that) i would have been super surprised since hothead's last real appearance was as Kavaxas in the 2012 series, and previously, 1992 as an action figure. the dude literally has had maybe 3 appearances over 20 years.
@@TheVoltDenatsu Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa might not be the most well-known characters across TMNT fandom in general, but they're by far the fan favorites of the 87 cartoon.
I mentioned about this on discord and one player said it was something to do with in-combat stats. Which I can see for Mikey, April and Usagi having 3 points for speed and Splinter/Donnie having 1 speed point. I think Lisa/Gecko's combat speed stat should be a 2, they're not the fastest but clearly not the slowest.
@@GreenalinkTheir range stats also feel like lies on either side of the spectrum. Mondo feels like he has overall stubbier reach than even Raph or Mikey while Mona, even without counting projectiles, feel about on par with Donny (and definitely better than Casey).
@Greenalink if this was the case than Karai would be 3 stars for all. Both at a speed of 1? Lol absolutely not, and the power is definitely 2 while range is 3 Mona and 1 Mondo
@@richardjoyce2764 Karai is a unique case, without the boosts she is speed 1, slow combo attack/dps (5 presses) than say Leo/Splinter (4 presses). With max boost, she is a 3 on speed.
It’s a blow fish mace. It’s based on her action figure that came out in the early 90’s. That was one of her weapons. The character in the cartoon was never armed.
Hey I know this is a really old subject, has been years, but thought I might as well ask. Is there any chance you might revisit Mega Man Powered Up and showcase the official DLC stages that you didn't cover previously?
I'm surprised that has been the reception for Mona & Mondo. I've been seeing a lot of comments "I only know them from the 2012 show". I guess we reached a point where the 1987 show is too old now for the present gen of TMNT fans.
@@THEAnimeHERO Which is sad since quite a bit of what the Ninja Turtles are in the public eye is directly linked to that show. I sometimes dare say that the 1987 series has had more of a long lasting and all encompassing influence on the franchise than the Mirage comics it was based on.
@@kayokango I kinda wish we could see something closer to the comics someday but yeah, TMNT '87 with the differently coloured hairbands (well, eyebands in this case) as well as having more humour is how we perceive TMNT today.
@@WolfMoon351 th-cam.com/video/IHoI-DKNOhg/w-d-xo.html You just have to go to the PC folders, drag the arena file over to stage 1 and rename it as the new stage 1 file but keep a backup of the original stage 1 file. The video has a visual guide on setting it up.
What I don't understand, at least as this game depicts her, is why is she Raph's girlfriend? With her love of chemistry, shouldn't she be Donnie's gal pal?
@@julianemoraes9860 in TMNT (IDW) issue 109, Donnie actually does have a romantic interest in Mona but he calls it silly, but Mona kisses him on the cheek. Shes actually introduced to Donnie by Jennika, basically the fifth (female) turtle. In fact I think Tribute Games made Mondo Gecko and Mona based on the IDW characters because they have really cool interactions with the turtles in those comics; in the cartoon theyre not always seen
Mondo had to be the easiest character to animate, everything he does is just a variant on that same kick-flip over and over. Love that kinda balerina lunge Mona does, and the baseball slide, girl's got variety.
Always found it weird the dodge button doesm't do anything but a seemingly useless flip in the air and they finally addressed this issue with one character getting an air dodge. @Greenalink Would you agree that Mona Lisa is a top tier character thanks to her great range, decent speed, unique guard breaking abilities and Mondo Gecko is a mid tier because of how all his best traits have more niche uses that don't lead to as much guaranteed damage in most situations?
![Leo being my favorite turtle part 1 [MINOR SPOILERS]](/img/n.gif)
Mona has already earned a special place in my heart for finally getting me the "cowabunga it is" achievement. So thanks, reptile girl that is cuter than she probably should be.
Man what a cast of characters at the end, this game is really freakin awesome
Finally! Was waiting for you to upload this :)
Same, I've been looking forward to this video.
I haven't gotten the DLC yet but thank you so much for doing these!
The original video (and dimension shellshock vid) were so, so informative-- things I'd noticed between characters and seen in-game but couldn't quantify or explain, couldn't really.... *understand* without your highly detailed videos!
I love Shredder's Revenge, got the Platinum before the first dlc announced and these videos are so incredible, I definitely credit them for my knowledge and skill 👏 👏
When I fought shredder as Mondo so I could see his ending, I was not expecting to be able to jump off of walls, and I started freaking out because I wasn’t sure that I had ever even tried to wall jump with any other character
I hope we get more story mode
Amazing game can’t believe they added these two as dlc
Unlikely, or they would've done it by now. 🤷🏼♂️
You are doing the Lord's work. Thank you for sharing this.
I can’t believe Shredder’s revenge got more than 9 characters before TF2 did.
Still love this game! Thanks for another deep dive into the mechanics.
Great info. Looking forward to trying them & will keep this stuff in mind. 🙂Thanks.
I always find it confusing that "flying attack" is really a dash attach.
i wasnt sure if it was a glitch or if it was intentional when i did it the first time, but finding out mondo can do his backflip super mid air has maybe locked him in for me as my new main
Mondo combo dude.
Are you team science or team mosh pit?
Team mosh pit
Team Science
Every character is great
Team Science Pit!
Team science.
I found Mona Lisa to have higher survivability than Mondo Gecko. Sometimes Mondo's ground super doesn't kill the enemy if they get knocked out of range. They are both fun to play as though.
Mondo can cheese bosses with his jump kicks. You can just keep doing it over and over.
@@storyrant and that is very fun to do, but mona can just blow 'em up and do just as much damage. It all changes depending on how many players and the difficulty. I usually play as Mondo because I have more fun with him. Like you said, cheesing the bosses with the jump kicks. It's the coolest thing I have ever witnessed in the game.
I love that they got added by fan demand, despite the game being pretty much over.
I wonder, have they altered Mona Lisa's cameo in Survival Mode if she's the character you play as?
Yes, she doesnt appear in dark tomorrow dimension if someone is playing as her, same with mondo in the mirage dimension.
Thank you so much for this.
I like your Shredder's Revenge character analysis videos. Hope to see such videos for some of my favorite beat'em ups like Comix Zone, Little Fighter 2, Denjin Makai 2, Alien vs. Predator, The Outfoxies, Battletoads (NES version) and Fight'N Rage. And for some run and guns also maybe like Elevator Action Returns, Contra: Hard Corps and Huntdown. Well just suggestions. ^_^
My ideal DLC would be Muckman & Joe Eyeball as the new character and a new stage with Mutagen Man as the boss.
I want Metalhead.
Updated Damage values please!
Good thing I was finishing it off with interesting tidbits on Radical Mode when you posted that comment:
th-cam.com/video/vyyZchHui7A/w-d-xo.html
And mondo is the first time ingot the trophy for the 150 hits or whatever the number us.
Already 1cced Arcade on Gnarly with Mona. Mondo is harder, but damn is he fun to play.
They should put a character that almost no one knows but I'm sure many will love it, I personally would put the four-armed tiger called Katmandu.
I think that is why both Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa were chosen. Theyre relatively unknown, in fact i'd argue Venus is more well known than the two of them put together. If Hothead were in Mondo Gecko's spot (some of his moveset is kind of like that) i would have been super surprised since hothead's last real appearance was as Kavaxas in the 2012 series, and previously, 1992 as an action figure. the dude literally has had maybe 3 appearances over 20 years.
@@TheVoltDenatsu Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa might not be the most well-known characters across TMNT fandom in general, but they're by far the fan favorites of the 87 cartoon.
While I played Mondo first I kinda lean on Mona since she's the first character I soloed survival.
Do you have the continuation of your video on the digital characteristics of these two characters with all the others?
Their stats are wrong on the player select, surprised they didn't notice it. Ain't no way both of them got Splinters stats lol
I mentioned about this on discord and one player said it was something to do with in-combat stats.
Which I can see for Mikey, April and Usagi having 3 points for speed and Splinter/Donnie having 1 speed point.
I think Lisa/Gecko's combat speed stat should be a 2, they're not the fastest but clearly not the slowest.
@@GreenalinkTheir range stats also feel like lies on either side of the spectrum. Mondo feels like he has overall stubbier reach than even Raph or Mikey while Mona, even without counting projectiles, feel about on par with Donny (and definitely better than Casey).
@Greenalink if this was the case than Karai would be 3 stars for all.
Both at a speed of 1? Lol absolutely not, and the power is definitely 2 while range is 3 Mona and 1 Mondo
@@richardjoyce2764
Karai is a unique case, without the boosts she is speed 1, slow combo attack/dps (5 presses) than say Leo/Splinter (4 presses).
With max boost, she is a 3 on speed.
I think the range and stats are their overall stats and not just the range of their base moves.
What the heck is Mona Lisa swinging around with her Flying Super?!
It’s a blow fish mace. It’s based on her action figure that came out in the early 90’s. That was one of her weapons. The character in the cartoon was never armed.
Hey I know this is a really old subject, has been years, but thought I might as well ask. Is there any chance you might revisit Mega Man Powered Up and showcase the official DLC stages that you didn't cover previously?
Thans for the video.
Do you know if they have changed the overall balance of the game yet?
I think mondo is my favourite in the dlc
How do their walking/running speed line up with the rest of the cast?
@@Loogi_FGC
Mondo Gecko walking/dashing is on par with Mikey/April
I haven't compared Lisa's walking/dashing speed against other characters yet.
finally
@@RedFire257 Thank you for wishing to Dotemu about adding these Radical Reptiles a year ago 😉
Are either of these characters potential game changers for the speedrun?
Was this update only for these two characters or also more levels in survival or something?
Only these two (and a free 8-bit OST update you can enable in the OPTIONS, DLC not required)
Mondo is good but they really cooked with Mona
But man mondo gecko is so much fun. He can dash in the aair and jump off walls so man he so much more fun than mona lisa.
Are they new characters made for that game or they existed before?
these characters were in the original series, Mona Lisa was in one episode and Mondo in 2
I'm surprised that has been the reception for Mona & Mondo. I've been seeing a lot of comments "I only know them from the 2012 show". I guess we reached a point where the 1987 show is too old now for the present gen of TMNT fans.
@@THEAnimeHERO Which is sad since quite a bit of what the Ninja Turtles are in the public eye is directly linked to that show. I sometimes dare say that the 1987 series has had more of a long lasting and all encompassing influence on the franchise than the Mirage comics it was based on.
@@kayokango I kinda wish we could see something closer to the comics someday but yeah, TMNT '87 with the differently coloured hairbands (well, eyebands in this case) as well as having more humour is how we perceive TMNT today.
they added new levels? if not ill just get bored lol
Please explain, in the strictest and most professional terms possible, Mona's goofy ass run cycle
Make a teir list? Pls 👉👈
Oh wow, how do you play on a training mode?
The only way is to mod the PC version. It’s not available for the consoles.
@@ultimatekd ah ok I have the PC version as well, how do I get the mod?
@@WolfMoon351 th-cam.com/video/IHoI-DKNOhg/w-d-xo.html
You just have to go to the PC folders, drag the arena file over to stage 1 and rename it as the new stage 1 file but keep a backup of the original stage 1 file.
The video has a visual guide on setting it up.
@@Greenalink ah ok thank you. ^^
I love Mona Lisa she looks a lot like me (literally) but green she even walks like me
What I don't understand, at least as this game depicts her, is why is she Raph's girlfriend? With her love of chemistry, shouldn't she be Donnie's gal pal?
@@Goldenbane l still think she should be Donnie’s gal pal l mean she is a scientist
i want to marry you, because mona lisa is perfect in the game :D dont care if its a cringe comment, because mona lisa got swag in this game
@@julianemoraes9860 in TMNT (IDW) issue 109, Donnie actually does have a romantic interest in Mona but he calls it silly, but Mona kisses him on the cheek. Shes actually introduced to Donnie by Jennika, basically the fifth (female) turtle. In fact I think Tribute Games made Mondo Gecko and Mona based on the IDW characters because they have really cool interactions with the turtles in those comics; in the cartoon theyre not always seen
@@TheVoltDenatsu you want to what?
Mondo had to be the easiest character to animate, everything he does is just a variant on that same kick-flip over and over.
Love that kinda balerina lunge Mona does, and the baseball slide, girl's got variety.
We have same nick name lol
Wow, i thought mondo was pretty underwhelming until I saw this video
This looks like someone’s oc 💀💀💀
8:24 Mona looks like Fawful
LOL Mikey isn't poor, just stop.
Overall the new characters are amazing, now in the middle of a playthrough with Mona and she's excellent.
@@RoyArkon
Only his dive kick is compared to Gecko, the rest of his kit is fine.
@@Greenalink Ok thanks for the clarification
Always found it weird the dodge button doesm't do anything but a seemingly useless flip in the air and they finally addressed this issue with one character getting an air dodge. @Greenalink Would you agree that Mona Lisa is a top tier character thanks to her great range, decent speed, unique guard breaking abilities and Mondo Gecko is a mid tier because of how all his best traits have more niche uses that don't lead to as much guaranteed damage in most situations?