Being squashed for 40 minutes was worthy because after this class we finally managed to apply successfully the King's gambit in sparring, both with jiu-jitsu and MMA :D
Great video. I just watched the whole thing. This is almost exactly what I’ve been doing since white belt to pass the guards of much better people I’d otherwise never be able to pass. I passed good purples, browns and even blacks this way as a 9 month white belt-or at least made them turtle and get out of their closed guard. The only thing that would catch me up 20% of the time was getting armbarred (I see what I was doing wrong now, thanks), or if they are so good at shoulder walking that we keep resetting to the start of the position. But this really works, and makes me love getting triangles whenever I know it’s coming. Just like you show, if they do the “right” things and try to cut the conventional angle, it just makes it worse on them. The only problem now is getting people in my gym to actually take the bait at this point :-)
Hey Wim, just on the off chance you read this, thank you! I have been training BJJ since 2004 and have been a black belt since 2016 and of course have been triangled hundreds upon hundreds of times. I watched this video a couple of days ago and decided to try it out at open mat today. Long story short, I baited triangles on people all the way up to brown belt who I know have good triangles, and was easily able to defend, stack and pass using these methods. Great stuff!
I try to read everything and always reply 😊 Thanks a lot for feedback! Much appreciated. There are a lot of fundamental flaws in the way most people do triangles. That is why this gambit works so well. The cool thing is, once you start exploiting this pass, your training partners will have to upgrade their triangles.
I've totally found that to be true. I get one roll with people when I hit this and they won't attempt a triangle again. I do have trouble with loop chokes from some people when they know it's a trap. Any suggestions?
Great stuff. Worked immediately In today's sparring. I have been doing similar pass for years but seems that here are many details that can improve the success rate with guys with really good triangles.
You seem like a mindfull training partner and that is definately a good thing. This being said, there is definately a safe and nice way to do it without injuring training partners.
Damn this is soooo advanced I’m a purple belt and I’ve never seen any of this plus the triangle used to be my favorite move now I’m like shit don’t work
Hey Jonathan! Triangle is not that easy indeed. You have to treath it like any other guard. But it isn't that advanced really. I can teach it to everyone, including weightbelts 😊
loving it. i have a tendonitis right now and only train with the left arm and the right one in the belt. all i do now is trying to make this work for me.
@@WimDeputterBJJ extremely good. i was drilling it today for an hour with a triangle friend and i start to feel to be in an advantageous instead of in danger. i need to take the arm out though for the last stack pass. i can only stall with one arm.
Managed to pull this off for the first time in sparring today! My partner thought he had the triangle, and our coach was shouting at him to finish it. I was chilling while he furiously was trying to finish the triangle. I took my time and eventually passed 😊
One question I have is where your posture should be ideally, because you start with a neutral spine with your head on his chest but as he enters the triangle you seem to be at more of a 45 degree angle? So are they both right or is one preferable? Probably 80% of the time I get subbed, it is by triangle, and there does not seem to be a lot of good information on triangle defense out there. It would be awesome if you made an instructional on this topic. I would definitely purchase a copy!
It is all about timing. Ideally, the one who leaves the centre (makes the angle) first, is on the losing side. Believe it or not, the person on top has a very big advantage over the guy on bottom. Top can give continues pressure. This makes it hard for the bottom player to stay in the center. The moment bottom choses the angle away from the trapped arm first, he is in big trouble.
Check out this class on pressure passing, the concepts are exactly the same. It will help you understand the triangle better. th-cam.com/video/IvPGs7rWQ_s/w-d-xo.html
The first time was when I was 21 I think. I am by no means an amazing wrestler. But I got good basics. The first time I learned pure wrestling from a wrestler, is about 18 years ago. I had a year of private classes. I was always fortunate to have some Chechens as trainingpartner with a great wrestling background. The two most important are Arbi Muradov and Visrail Khamiev.
Do you want to see my favorite tactic "The King's Gambit" in action in competition? Check it out here: bit.ly/KingsGambitCompetitionFootage
@Sonny Imran Good to hear 😊 Let me know what you think after the full video!
Being squashed for 40 minutes was worthy because after this class we finally managed to apply successfully the King's gambit in sparring, both with jiu-jitsu and MMA :D
Awesome to hear 😊 Thank you Francesco!
Great video. I just watched the whole thing. This is almost exactly what I’ve been doing since white belt to pass the guards of much better people I’d otherwise never be able to pass.
I passed good purples, browns and even blacks this way as a 9 month white belt-or at least made them turtle and get out of their closed guard.
The only thing that would catch me up 20% of the time was getting armbarred (I see what I was doing wrong now, thanks), or if they are so good at shoulder walking that we keep resetting to the start of the position.
But this really works, and makes me love getting triangles whenever I know it’s coming. Just like you show, if they do the “right” things and try to cut the conventional angle, it just makes it worse on them.
The only problem now is getting people in my gym to actually take the bait at this point :-)
😄😄 I have the same problem! Nobody goes for triangle anymore 😊
Do you feel the difference when you make the adjustement with the arm?
Hey Wim, just on the off chance you read this, thank you! I have been training BJJ since 2004 and have been a black belt since 2016 and of course have been triangled hundreds upon hundreds of times. I watched this video a couple of days ago and decided to try it out at open mat today. Long story short, I baited triangles on people all the way up to brown belt who I know have good triangles, and was easily able to defend, stack and pass using these methods. Great stuff!
I try to read everything and always reply 😊
Thanks a lot for feedback! Much appreciated.
There are a lot of fundamental flaws in the way most people do triangles. That is why this gambit works so well.
The cool thing is, once you start exploiting this pass, your training partners will have to upgrade their triangles.
I've totally found that to be true. I get one roll with people when I hit this and they won't attempt a triangle again.
I do have trouble with loop chokes from some people when they know it's a trap. Any suggestions?
Great stuff.
Worked immediately In today's sparring.
I have been doing similar pass for years but seems that here are many details that can improve the success rate with guys with really good triangles.
Thank you! Happy to hear 😊
If you have any questions, doubts or critique, just let me know!
Looking forward to premiere!
Thanks 😊
Thanks ! It works very well!
Nice one!
Fantastic stuff!
Thanks Dirk! Glad you like 😊
Is it sad that i don't stack my rolling partners. It just feels like a lot of stress on the neck and spine and I dont want to inflict injury to them.
You seem like a mindfull training partner and that is definately a good thing.
This being said, there is definately a safe and nice way to do it without injuring training partners.
@@WimDeputterBJJ I'll keep that in mind.
Damn this is soooo advanced I’m a purple belt and I’ve never seen any of this plus the triangle used to be my favorite move now I’m like shit don’t work
Hey Jonathan! Triangle is not that easy indeed. You have to treath it like any other guard.
But it isn't that advanced really. I can teach it to everyone, including weightbelts 😊
Woah this is advanced stuff! I gotta train harder!
It's not that hard honestly 😊 But training harder is always a great idea!
loving it. i have a tendonitis right now and only train with the left arm and the right one in the belt. all i do now is trying to make this work for me.
Turning a curse into a blessing 😊 love it!
How is it working so far?
@@WimDeputterBJJ extremely good. i was drilling it today for an hour with a triangle friend and i start to feel to be in an advantageous instead of in danger. i need to take the arm out though for the last stack pass. i can only stall with one arm.
Managed to pull this off for the first time in sparring today! My partner thought he had the triangle, and our coach was shouting at him to finish it. I was chilling while he furiously was trying to finish the triangle. I took my time and eventually passed 😊
Awesome to hear 😊 Thank you for sharing!
Grand Master Wim !
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👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Thanks 😊
One question I have is where your posture should be ideally, because you start with a neutral spine with your head on his chest but as he enters the triangle you seem to be at more of a 45 degree angle? So are they both right or is one preferable? Probably 80% of the time I get subbed, it is by triangle, and there does not seem to be a lot of good information on triangle defense out there. It would be awesome if you made an instructional on this topic. I would definitely purchase a copy!
It is all about timing. Ideally, the one who leaves the centre (makes the angle) first, is on the losing side.
Believe it or not, the person on top has a very big advantage over the guy on bottom.
Top can give continues pressure. This makes it hard for the bottom player to stay in the center.
The moment bottom choses the angle away from the trapped arm first, he is in big trouble.
Check out this class on pressure passing, the concepts are exactly the same. It will help you understand the triangle better.
th-cam.com/video/IvPGs7rWQ_s/w-d-xo.html
Checkmatttt
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when will your new video release from bjj fanatics?
I still have to edit it. It's about 8h, so quite a lot of work. I guess like two months?
Filming is the easy part 😄
@@WimDeputterBJJ I look foward to it 🤤
@@sodasuki1304 😄😄 I'll do my best to make it fast!
Where and what age did u learn your wrestling
The first time was when I was 21 I think.
I am by no means an amazing wrestler. But I got good basics.
The first time I learned pure wrestling from a wrestler, is about 18 years ago. I had a year of private classes.
I was always fortunate to have some Chechens as trainingpartner with a great wrestling background. The two most important are Arbi Muradov and Visrail Khamiev.