My wife just left me after 17 years. Just decided she didn’t want to be married anymore. The nightmare of dealing with the legal system will soon begin. Division of assets, child support, custody. And all I did was work 2 jobs for the last 10 years to make sure we could be middle class. What a shmuck I was.
Jeremy King feel you there bud, it’s pretty nuts when you think about it. It’s important to never give your heart to a woman as she won’t respect that, you must be resilient enough to keep your heart for you and always grow to improve yourself (and if you got them, your kids). Take care bro, it’s rough right after divorce but you can get through it in time. Keeping busy with your work and exercise will help a lot too
Stay strong. Get some good advise. Document everything you can that shows you are a good father. Get through it and walk away from women. Don't go back
And I bet you if someone had advised you not to marry her at the time, you'ld have thought you knew better😂; I don't feel sorry formen who get married anymore; I think you're an idiot and I hope she ruins you.
@@kissme1518 I have always said that too. I am middle aged, never married, and am dating a woman for the last 4 years who makes far more than I do. However, she is used to being the pants-wearer in her previous relationships for me to really ever get on board with being married. I think it makes people complacent and a little too comfortable. I still be believe in some boundaries, whether that means having some time to yourself or not letting get to the point where you are taking a shit with bathroom door open while your significant other is home.
@@kevinmach730 You sound like a real winner. No wonder you agree with these guys. Thank goodness for your woman not forcing you to marry her. She might be hesitant.
@@Iloveswedes Meh, someone is always getting butt hurt on the JRE threads, you sound like you have quite a few hang ups of your own. Thank goodness you have your cats lol.
Bill’s pretty spot on with most his takes, and I say that as someone who leans right. But the way he articulates it makes me see his perspective on things. Some economic issues I disagree with him on but a lot of social issues I see eye to eye with him
Probably because marriage is hard... kind of like a teacher telling you not to bother going to college... it's not for everyone, and it's a huge cash grab.
Married guy here... Women marry men hoping they will change, but they don't. Men marry women hoping they will never change, but they do. To all single guys beware, once you sign the paper they change; they will slowly start morphing from a nice fun sweet cute little girl you fell in love with, to a nagging angry monster.
I'm 36 and so tired of people telling me I should be married. I'm like, "bro! Don't you see me all happy and shit? I don't complain about being single, YOU complain about me being single."
Same here. 29 and don't miss being in a relationship, sex is the only thing that I care about. Women are just to much of a mood killing, energy draining creature.
My parents been married 38 years. They knew their roles. My dad brought home the money, and my mom took care of 3 kids and the house. No infidelity, honest with each other, priorities are right. Ran into some financial troubles but that never broke them. For rich or poor, sickness and health.
It’s funny. A lot of people don’t even get divorced for actual good reasons. People are weak and have fragile egos. They don’t look around and at themselves. It’s all on the Marriage
@@Aviator_Walkerthe issue is the information is easily/readily available, modern women just refuse to see they are destroying themselves. It’s a cop out to say, “oh they are from a different generation.”
My girlfriend’s dad got married and divorced twice in the past 20 years, 2 different women, lost 2 houses and paying child support. Last time I heard of him he’s currently living in a van who knows, yup don’t want to be that guy 😐
Joe was talking about Tom Arnold, but there have been other men who came out like Roses. The hot blond (forgot her name) who was hosting GMA for decades got divorced and her husband got a treasure chest . . . so there is a guy who got a hot woman and her money . . . I forget his name but he is a God to me.
Mister Tropical Here’s the part guys like this ALWAYS overlook that happens a LOT: the classic story of the woman loyally financially supporting her husband through the lean years in his profession (med school, law school, aspiring actor/comedian/musician), and when he finally hits the jackpot, he starts screwing younger women, often giving the wife an STD. Fuck yeah, she deserves compensation for that shit. The minute a guy has real money, he thinks he can be unfaithful with no repercussions. Also, the alimony laws are meant to compensate the woman for the years and years she spent OUT of the job market, because she was home raising their kids and usually catering to the man also, while he worked. So let’s say he starts banging his secretary and completely devastates the wife emotionally and VIOLATES his marriage vows, she wants a divorce.... and now she has no current job skills and has yeeeeeeaaars out of the job market. Alimony evens the playing field for women. That’s how those laws came to be.
@@hardworker5588 The only man I can think of is Kevin Federline who was married to Britney Spears. In most cases (over 75% of cases) men are screwed financially when it comes to divorce nowadays though.
@@punanny123 --- I bet the number is higher than 75%. The unspoken truth is that laws are written to protect women . . . which destroys the notion that America is a nation that hates women and wants a handmades-tale society. It's the opposite of that. America hates men, and wants to shet all over them every second. The USA is a matriarchy and has been for 50 years. Which happens to coincide with our downfall as a nation.
@@calisongbird damn.... who hurt you? I genuinely love my woman (not a wife)... most people do. woman start more the 75% of the divorces and cheat as mutch as men do. you proved once again: most feminist just hate man.
I had a friend who would harp on and on about how great marriage was, because you "wake up every morning staring at the person you love more than anything"! He inspired me....to install a mirror in my bedroom!
lol that's funny I went to family court for visitation talks, my ex went HAM and lied about everything, I was like this bitch is a good, they believed that Bat lol
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@@itspricila Typical shaming language by women & simps trying to manipulate. - who hurt you? - are you gay? you must be gay. - you're a weirdo - you're a misogynist - you need to man up, quit being a pussy - you're just bitter because you can't get laid - you are an incel who lives in your moms basement - you have issues..nothing you are saying is valid. - stop whining & step up - you are a loser - you need therapy Girls and beta males regurgitate the same rhetoric in an attempt to psychologically put a man/boy back on the assembly line to serve women. You use these lines because I have told the truth about female nature & it threatens to subvert the feminine imperative. The female has a smaller amygdala than a male, so it would make sense that the vast majority of you can't deal with emotional stress as a man could. Furthermore, when you have nothing left, you begin to throw adhominens & pejoratives at me in order to defend your broken ego. #Mgtow #Redpill #Leykis101
I totally agree. My boyfriend just got divorced from a woman who refused to work. She tried to stab him with a shovel in his groin and he filmed her in her angry rage. She was arrested for assaulting him another time. Still in New York where we have no fault divorce he has to pay her alimony and half of his retirement. Seems ridiculous that anyone would have to pay an abuser but that’s our legal system and courts don’t care. Laws need to change.
Ever stop to think that he made her crazy and once she did, he pulled out his phone to film her crazy? 🤔 you may not know this boyfriend until you also go to a break up with him, and then you’ll finally understand the ex lol
My husband and I divorced on 2019. We have grown up children. No lawyers. We filled papers ourselves. The judge was so happy. We finished in 5 minutes.
movingonandup773 hey, if you can sucker a man to buy you shit, more power to you, I’m on your side. There’s always a sucker that will do anything for a pair of tits.
Most men I know have no problem with feminism but we all agree third wave feminism is cancer privledge seeking and is upheld by gynocentric laws and court systems as a fair response to the pendulum being in one direction I mean honestly historically speaking it's fair how much women can whine complain cry absolved of all responsibility and coddled after all there was a time they burned at stakes and couldn't vote let's not forget it's their due however the issue is pendulums swing in both directions and Trump is proof that backlash against feminism and PC movements in general is happening since we aren't trying to create true equality just make up for lost time with women well eventually the pendulum will swing to their side there will be a revolt and it will swing back towards outside again hence things like mgtow/redpill which I support(not the slutshaming/blaming women parts) I support the don't give a fuck about women do absolutely nothing for them and interact with them only to your benefit respect yourself enough to live your life because you don't own anyone it's just your turn
I’m not totally against the idea of marriage just yet I’m only 22, but the best advice I’ve ever heard in my life was what my mum said to me. She said “if you meet a girl that wants an expensive, over the top wedding then she’s not worth marrying, the wedding cost is the start of all the money she’ll take from you”.
but its not just marriage that can get a man screwed, I looked up Bill Maher and apparently he faced being sued by his ex for millions when he wanted out after a long term relationship. So guys, even just having a long term relationship without marriage can get you in trouble. Here in UK they are no bringing in extreme man hating laws to screw men over if there is a break-up in a relationship, even without marriage and I understand there are a few of these laws in America in some States. Its all against us men, and they are coming for us big time, no I am not being paranoid its the truth . Even having a relationship where you dont live together, she can end the relationship by cheating on you then sue you for emotional abuse down the line after its ended. Chaps, its just not worth risking having a relationship at all, I am dead serious, I know I would never get into a relationship for this reason and for a few others. Guys please stay single, financially its a no brainer.
I mean it is bc you're not always gonna be the same. But if u r, it might be boring. And it's a weird balance to attempt being 1. Or a team or wever. bc all humans r off anyways. But so that's y I like exchanging ideas. Behind a screen.To try & gain clarity. Just W/ out the investment part... 💡 I think all ppl should define their own happy just to say they could. There, life cred.
@@MikeG82 Because in life, in our reality, it would never be one way or the other. That's tribalist thinking. There are feminists that don't believe in having sex with men because it's rape and you're convinced all feminists think alike. Have you ever even known a feminist in person? Not met once, but known.
I'm "married" for 31 years. My daughter is 30 yrs old. Never signed any marriage certificate. Both of us can walk out any time but we are still together. I don't need any papers to be happy.
Common law marriage. Depending on the state they consider u married after two years of dating and living together. They can still take u to court and take half.
I’m 58 years old, never been married, I think the reason I never got married was from sitting around the fire house listening to all the horror stories,.. now I’m retired and over the years have watched all my friends get divorced and the older I get the more and more frequently the stories roll in , I have three siblings, all three have been divorced , the latest one just became final ,his lawyers total bill $360,000.00 . my advice to younger people thinking about it ,… Jump !
My son is 12 years. For the past 6 years I have been telling him to never get married. Pisses his mother off but when marriage and divorce are all rigged against men there is no way I would ever do it again.
I'm glad someone other than me is finally talking about the insanity of marriage, and how men get treated in the slaughterhouse that is divorce. Well done Joe
My friends divorced lasted 5 years, which 1.5 of that was during covid. But the divorced was 3.5 years before covid, and her lawyers dragged it out. He had to pay for his lawyer and hers. At the end of the day she took him to the cleaners. If you knew all the details it would drive you crazy.
@BookBinder Bachelor That's a good one too. Because at least if you can hold divorce away from the wife you can prevent divorce. But no they have a way around it without your signature.
Had a woman tell me that, three years later caught he cheating when she left a chat app open on her computer by mistake. lol that was my red pill moment
@@moin6077 he is indeed smart but no smarter than the average charming guy. He did execute his instagram plan perfectly. He only lies about the whole making millions from poker thing because he has to. the moment he admits his father gave him all the money he might get screwed but only a tiny chance
Right Coast Here’s the part guys like this ALWAYS overlook that happens a LOT: the classic story of the woman loyally financially supporting her husband through the lean years in his profession (med school, law school, aspiring actor/comedian/musician), and when he finally hits the jackpot, he starts screwing younger women, often giving the wife an STD. Fuck yeah, she deserves compensation for that shit. The minute a guy has real money, he thinks he can be unfaithful with no repercussions. Also, the alimony laws are meant to compensate the woman for the years and years she spent OUT of the job market, because she was home raising their kids and usually catering to the man also, while he worked. So let’s say he starts banging his secretary and completely devastates the wife emotionally and VIOLATES his marriage vows, she wants a divorce.... and now she has no current job skills and has yeeeeeeaaars out of the job market. Alimony evens the playing field for women. That’s how those laws came to be.
I didn't feel obligated. Just love the woman and don't want anyone else. Have an awesome kid together and I wouldn't have it any other way. Just 4 years now and we're still great, so... 🤷🏾♂️ Just me though.
I got married at 23 and realized it was a huge mistake by 24 and we were divorced by the time I was 25. Best thing that ever happened. No kids...quick divorce. By age 26, I knew I'd never get married again. I'm 40 years old and could NOT be happier. Don't rely on someone to make you happy!!!
You lucky bugger. I have been living/ sleeping in separate rooms for 15 years and cannot afford a divorce. I used to look like Denzil Washington and now I look like Morgan Freeman.
@@punanny123 of course you can dude. Sure, it'll be an adjustment. But life is too short to be miserable. If you know the marriage is over and don't have young kids...get the hell outta dodge! It's NEVER too late to do what makes you happy! Good luck Morgan! 😜
I love the part when Joe counters Bill rationalizing the meaning of a marriage certificate by giving him the guilt trip speech “don’t you love me?” 💀 😂
Well marriage isn’t supposed to be about the government, the government just makes it about them. Marriage should be about commitment and love (not just the emotional form of love) and honoring God
I don't understand how men are expected to maintain their ex-wife's lifestyle with money, when the women aren't expected to supply their ex-husband's with sex? That's been the exchange since the beginning of time: money for sex.
Its when men are still paying lots of money to someone long after they have moved on it becomes a problem...Even worse when kids are involved, who 99% of the time end up with the mother
I’m a woman who has never married and I thank my lucky stars every day. My life has been so full of fun, adventure and love. I go home to my own home and space. Peaceful and fulfilling.❤
@@TreesusSmith No. They are sick snd old and fedup with each other. My grandparents hated each other. My parents had to have the police out. A friend at work had parents in separate nursing homes because they fought so much.
I'm single but I'm not alone. I have a great life. It's amazing how many people especially married people give you that puzzled look when you say that you don't want to get married or have kids. It amazes me the one-sided way people look at life like you're supposed to get married and supposed to have kids and there's no other way. I've also seen the jealous look of people who are married when I tell them I'm single and I do what I want. You can see the look of despair and resentment and can almost read their mind that they wish that they didn't get married and were free. If you're single and you've talked to married people I know you know the look! Hey you guys be careful out there! There's a lot of desperate women looking to take a man down for their benefit! Cover your ASSets my brothers!
And sisters! I’m 67. Never married. No children. And happily with the same man for 25 years. He lives in his house and I live in mine. We share some really good times but live our lives as we wish. Bliss.
I housed my man and helped him a job when we were just a one night stand.🤷i worked 3 jobs, he stayed, i took care of him and helped him get a job, took him to his son every weekend, then we started dating. Now we have our own place and im 7 months pregnant. I wouldn't say he was a peasant, but broke he was and rich we are now; without the money.
Ugly dudes believe In that quote. I got cousins who came out of prison with brand new Benz/bmw because of their girl. When I was my brokest I was pullin the baddest chicks, now I’m working I just don’t have the time. Look at Jeremy Meeks situation your quote is not true.
Love shouldn't be something that is written on a paper , I already own a printer, thanks.A ceremony with friends thats different and still celebrate a nice day ( without the bridezilla thing) it's ridiculous that feminists are just ok with these laws when they Say they fight for equality... Only when it's convenient.Makes other women like me gag.
What amazes me most is when someone gets divorced, fails to learn any lessons from it, and goes out and gets married AGAIN!!! That's just nuttier than a fruitcake. When I hear of someone on their 3rd or 4th marriage, my head just spins around in circles.
My uncle, total schmuck, married for his second time aged 50 last month. Also my mother's cousin 59yo has been married and divorced 3 times, but I can see the motive from a minimum wage working woman - it ain't love.
It's also amazing how quickly a lot of men get to abandon their kids now that they are 'free.' Not all divorces happen because of a woman's whim, lots of times there are solid resons to their demands, and not all women are trying to scam men.
Rosa Del Rio Not suggesting for a second that all women are scammers but unfortunately those that are (and lets face it there are a few) ruin it for those who are who have a legitimate reason to seek support. Women can be vindictive which leads to men paying for their lives (I do not mean where children are involved) and that’s where I think if women want equal rights they shouldn’t be looking to a man to provide it for them.
@@ashfield1425 solid point. I think people don't look deeply into the reasons/logic behind traditional "gender roles" and understand there is a difference between equality and the literal same. Men risk a modern day men risk a woman leaving them and recieving alimony (assuming he makes more). Women risk staying home to raise kids and then getting divorced and having no employable skillset to take care of herself because she's been out the workforce for 10 yrs. Everyone runs a risk in marriage.
Staci Hilliard Totally agree. My only caveat to this is where there are no children involved. Why should a man or woman pay after divorce pay to keep an individual in a style to which they have become accustomed. That does not speak equality to me. Go and get a job and support themselves like everyone else. That’s just my thinking.
SageofTool same. I’m 35 and I’ve seen horror stories in person with a couple of my friends and online there are an infinite amount horror stories out there for us all to see
@@slappyx64 You stated ''I'm sure all the women are devastated.'' That is correct, a lot of women feel ''devastated'' as you stated when they see they're not getting the paper with the man's autograph on it (marriage) and that is ok. Let them feel the devastation all the way... regards,
The flip side of alimony. My cousin was married for 30 yrs, her husband wanted her to stay at home with the children. He owned a construction company, made enough money they could afford it. As the children got older he still liked coming home to a clean house and a home cooked meal. She managed the home inside & out she did the yard work, grew a garden. In her 50s she started having health issues. One day he did not come home, he just left her without even a discussion. She had no business qualifications & could not stand for long periods of time. Her career was her family; she got alimony as she should have.
@@BlackTable0021 I see your point, but I guess it would depend the reason she left. An affair or abuse I would still hold him responsible. If not either of those I would hold the woman accountable to support herself.
@rena6865 Even if those situations do occur, the reality is that alimony is rooted in outdated concepts relating to men and women's roles. Women aren't unable to make money anymore, they can make more money than most men nowadays. Women aren't dumb, illiterate, or subjugated, but men are still expected to pay because the assumption is that men are all superior to women even if that isn't the case.
@@ddsjgvk My cousin’s husband did leave her. She did not want a divorce. I was responding to a hypothetical situation where the wife left & should be granted alimony, in the case of an affair or abuse. When couples make a decision for their family, that it benefits the family if the wife stays at home & makes her career the family; this often involves, managing everything related to the children & everything in the home. Later it often transfers from taking care of children to caring for aging parents. (His & hers) By the time a wife is in her 50s & has no experience outside the home, it is very difficult for her to find a job that will cover basic living expenses. I think she should be granted alimony for the work she did for thirty years. I had a very different experience, I have been a nurse for over thirty years. I had a husband who would not hold a job. We never had a discussion that he should stay at home. I would have been livid if a judge would have made me pay him alimony. I definitely understand the other side of the coin. I am only referring to couples that made the decision together that it would benefit their family if the wife were a stay at home mom.
Because he’s a real feminist, He doesn’t believe women are weak and useless and need men to support them for food and shelter. He’s married to a grown woman not a little girl who needs a sugar daddy. He has nothing to fear.
@@spr1ngcactu5 Very astute observation sir... XD. Still, it's very courageous for him to say those things as someone who is married. He probably has a very strong and reciprocal relationship with his wife where they discuss whatever's on their mind; the good, the bad, and the ugly... ;)
I wouldn't call that brave.. More like, he hasn't allowed people to manufacture fear into his psyche. Being married has nothing to do with observing that it has situational utility, but generally not.
Dont lose hope on marriage, marriage is a beautiful thing. The back-bone of society and culture, instead lose hope on divorce! Ban divorce! Its good for no one except for mallicious women.
@@nreddy9980 Nah, a ban is ridiculous. Marriage is a legal institution, it has financial and social utility....if it was all about spirituality, we wouldn't get government into it. There can be legitimate reasons to seek a divorce.
I told my brother on his wedding day... The car is outside are you sure you want to do this? He said she put in her time and he was going to do it. Fast forward one month.. she stopped working.. two months.. she was doing drugs.. two years in he was laid off from work, they were losing their house and he was terminally ill. She didn't do SHIT! I got the call at 2:36 A.M. the day after my birthday he had passed away in his bed. All he was to her was a wallet!! Just say NO..and get in the car when it is offered. Rest in peace Bro..
@@bolch88bb8 Yeah, I am now. Needless to say I do not celebrate my birthday anymore. Thanks for the compassion!! It is good to know there are still good people out there.
@@JimmyJamZ4328 this was a sad read, hope you're doing ok. i just want to add, i'm 37, and for 3 years now i have stayed clear from any relationship without even forcing myself, all i gotta say to myself whenever i start to kick it off with someone is "dude are you sure about this?" so my rule is sex is accepted but Friday night she's going home cause the weekend is dedicated to me. selfish? probably. do i care? not in the least. i am productive as much as i need to so i can finance my interests and then enjoy them. as far as kids are concerned yeah i love them, but not near enough to bring any to this meatgrinder. what i'm trying to say in this textwall is that, if you want to have a family and make sure humans go on, i respect you, but for me life should be ecstasy and we kinda make it a drag so don't regret anything. pressing F for the bro.
Much love bro sorry to hear this, life is full of tragedies but stay up and keep pushing forward, there are good women but its very hard to find them, 90 percent are money chasers
One acquaintance was the victim of corporate down sizing, said the loneliest he ever felt when he was let go, when he was no longer the breadwinner, no longer brought home the paycheck, he went from hero to zero overnight.His wife and kids gave him no support. He said he knew plenty of other guys in the same boat. One car aficionado told me "You're not going to drive the same car for 40 years, are you?"
Mister Tropical who the fuck would marry an instagram model tho? Seems like thats ass backwards idea of an ideal mate, being a sucker for big tits and a round ass
Curt Schilldog, My insta gram model, keeps wanting to get married, and I keep telling her I am not ready. I don't ever want to get married. Time to come clean with her I guess lmao
I've been married 47 years. I have seen so much change with regard to how other people view marriage today. Marriage is commitment to not only each other but to all the mistakes, pitfalls and potential windfalls you will absolutely have together over time. Some people love the IDEA of marriage. But the reality of it, not so much. If you go into it with the mindset that money is more important than why you even wanted to enter into it in the first place, then my advice is, DON'T do it. And here's the thing. Only people that have a great deal of money going into a commitment of marriage (both men AND women) use THAT as the foundation of whether their marriage may or may not be successful, that's why they feel the need for prenups. If money is the central focus, it's doomed from day one. On the flip side of that, when you don't have a great deal of money from the beginning, THAT isn't the central focus. So TOGETHER you build the life you want with each other. Money and people's greed for it, mixed with their egos is why most marriages fail.
Fine, understandable, but what exactly is the purpose for the marriage to be legally binding and recorded? Why not just do a church wedding and leave it at that? There is absolutely no reason for anyone to be legally married.
Best comment ❤. The foundation of many marriages these days is completely off, and certain discussions are not being had way before you walk down the aisle. So many mistakes happen even before saying “I do”.
I knew someone who got married for the sake of it. He was tired seeing everyone of his friends and family (even his younger siblings) married and he was already near 40 so he rushed everything to get married. It was the biggest mistake of his life. I'm gonna try to get married before 35 but if I don't then maybe being single is the life chosen for me. I WANT to get married but it is not a big priority in my life.
HeavyLikesSandwich I’m 38. Just got in a relationship after 13 years. I needed to focus primarily on raising my kid, and dudes weren’t in that mix lol. I’m now in a relationship and I wake up everyday wondering wtf I got myself into. I loved the single life. The only way to describe it is exactly what u said, peaceful. I may be joining u shortly lol
i remember my dad telling me, "a wife is like a hand grenade, remove the ring and your house is gone." back then i did not understand it because i was young, but now after seeing whats happening to ppl i know, i understand what he meant.
Is bad even for woman who understand because it's not enough for me to trust you that you won't divorce me , the only woman who understand is the one who's willing to be with a man without marriage
Is up to woman the power is on woman on how to build a bond and create family, is always woman who file divorce but anyway systematic marriage ain't supposed to happened cuz is not natural
@Thanos well, do you prefer things don’t change? Because that’s what you’re doing when you discourage young girls from understanding and empathizing with men. At the end of the day there are selfish and bad humans they come in all genders and we shouldn’t give them leeway to take advantage of others.
I made the fatal error of proposing marriage after 3 months. Stupid. After the divorce (Surprise!), I made a pact with myself to date a woman for at least 3 years before considering marriage. Here I am 28 years later (retired and happy) and not one woman made the cut. You guys know the drill...she can be super-sweet and sexy those first 3 to 6 months. You think you hit the lottery. However, if you have the discipline to wait and watch, her true self will eventually emerge and you'll be asking yourself two questions; (1.) "Where's the woman I fell in love with, cause this ain't her." And the more painful question, (2.) "Did she really exist in the first place, or was it just an act?" Answering #2 honestly can save your life.
My mom worries about me being almost 40 and refusing to marry. This is why. If it's real love, you don't need a sheet of paper to stay together. It's all a sham.
@@MrSidney9 I discussed this with my mother years ago. She said most priests will ask for the marriage license. I was and am thoroughly against that. Apparently it can be done, but there's the issue of children. As a man, you're not automatically tied to any children you have even if your biologically tied to them. I tell men, especially if they're in their 20s, that they should save money and visit a third world country with no hint or the barest hint of Feminism there. They should also have basic skills that will be of use anywhere (carpentry and similar, auto mechanic, and be able to cook) so that they can go anywhere and be useful to themselves/their new home. They're scouting areas to live and once they find a place they like, they're done with the West. They can find a woman there, marry, have kids, and never go back home.
@vipkoli That's why I said barest hint. Basically wherever Feminism has had less of an impact. Unfortunately I think it's spread not just by Feminists but pump and dumpers who leave the West.
I'm lucky to not come from people who drank the kool aid. I come from generations of marriage but I had no interest in it and confessed to my parents. My parents told me that's fine and I SHOULD NOT live my life according to what I see other people doing and that would make my life miserable. Create a life that works for you as an individual and that is the only route to happiness, which is what success is.
When my ex left me, she went online and found these social groups of ex-wives and soon-to-be ex wives. They are all such big fans of divorce. They encourage each other to get out, cash out, and live the good life on their ex-husband's dime. Crazy. She cheats on me, moves out, and then expects me to pay for it and then some. Luckily I got a good attorney, and her plans didn't go quite the way she had hoped.... But going through the legal aspect of it took YEARS, and I often found myself wishing I would have just paid her to not have to deal with all the court hearings and memos.... In the end though, justice prevailed and she ended up paying me.
@@masterjaxmedia no offence bro... your finances don't pay for years of experience yet to be had, you aren't out of the firing lane yet. You are ONLY 21. I been married 18yrs solid and we still root 5 times a week at least... its always been that way we are just fuckin animals for each other in the bedroom.. aside from that we are also the best of friends, we can shoot the shit and make each other laugh at the same shit.. its just "easy".. not boring.. easy, not stressful. I cant know for sure what the future holds but i do believe its one of those cases where we are just perfect for each other. Sometimes its just a case of not meshing, i don't mesh with other women, i dont even bother perving or giving girls attention, especially the ones that want all the guys lookin at em i tend to ignore, funny enough that makes em try harder lol... but they have a shit attititude I find them boring no matter how they look. Maybe what we have is rare.. by the sounds of these comments i would say it probably is.. But maybe its the sex as well as getting along and being best mates... Maybe it takes a strong sexual connection as well as the mental stimulation you give each other. So find that girl who is just a total slut for you.. and marry her haha
Term limit contract doesn't matter. You will still have to deal with the exit drama shit show. That's the number 1 reason to avoid signing the contract. There won't be the exit drama if there was no entrance in the first place.
I already told my wife, if she ever wants a divorce, I am leaving the country. 16 years in the military has taught me that I can drop everything at a drop of the hat and not look back
In some indigenous cultures no government intervention needed lols just move in with your spouse do a commitment ceremony. If it doesn’t work out just simply move out
I just talked to a guy yesterday that said he had to give up something he liked because she wanted him to. You here that crap all the time. I am completely free to do what I want at the drop of a hat. Do and not do what I want around the house. What ever I want I get. Will never go back to the "Institution"😁
Alimony is absolutely anachronistic to woman equality. Single women with no children can't take care of themselves?? Damn, never thought of it those terms before.
@@bestdjaf7499 Yeah, I mean, we can trust those guys right? Tell you what, even if in some bizzare reality, our elected representatives don't turn out to be trustworthy, at least we have selfless job creators & philanthropists like Mark Zuckerberg & Bill Koch to have our back.
@@dr.zoidberg8666 No Facebook US is on our side. They love Women & Blacks very much. They don't like the Little People, Poor, & Asians. Yet. Look at our great Famous People & Corporations in China. They support our Comrades in China. I can only assume they are all in Saudi Arabia to support the Blacks, Asian Slaves & Women rights. And it has nothing to do with money. It's about Love & Children & Immigrants & Women. I am totally promoting the idea to outsource all the Teaching & Government jobs to the immigrant Women. I don't understand how long these White "Liberals", will be sitting in the offices with 100,000$ salaries & 100,000$ bonuses & long vacations to see the Brown LatinX People?!? We should just outsource all jobs. The immigrant minorities deserve more than cleaning the white toilets & driving cabs & working factories & .... A lot of Immigrants have PhDs, & some are great educators. Give us the good immigrant teachers & bureaucrats. Create the new Immigrant Construction Unions. #ImmigrantsDeserveMore
@@dr.zoidberg8666 Man, just look at the global warming. That rich evil idiot Bill Gates wants to build his war designed Thorium reactors. Using the Chinese unregulated chemical industries, we can build the solar panels & acid batteries!!! And We have a lot of Chinese Engeneers to install a Solar Panel on every roof!!! Yes it's not reliable. Yes, we will have less sun & more water & more extreme weather. Yes it's kind of usless. But think on a big scale!!! Why would we employ 50 white/Asian people at a nuclear station, when we can make solar panels in China & employ millions in China & the West. All the Black & Yellow & Brown people will have money & jobs!!! Yeh, maybe a bit toxic & dangerous, but still millions of jobs.
6 years ago my fiance eloped with her ex-boyfriend. Spent five years of my twenties not interested in dating because of that. So after 6 years what does my new girlfriend do? Take off with my best friend. What's wrong with me 😭
I’m 31 years old and have been with my girlfriend for a little over 10 years, we bought a house together 5 years ago, (under both our names) and we’ve lived together and go half on the morgage and bills, every one of my cousins and co workers say “ when you gonna have kids and get married?” I tell them why? Everything’s good if it’s works for us why would I want to get the government involved? If we ever decide to break up we sell the house split the profits and go our separate ways, doesn’t make sense to me to go get a piece of paper and complicate things, (keep in mind the people that keep saying this are divorced or on child support or both) my uncles and dad are the ones that tell me “your doing it right” everyone just wants you to be in there situation, (crabs in the bucket)
I only learnt about alimony like four years ago, and I thought it was such a STRANGE concept. Why pay someone you're no longer with... continually? What kind of system is that? Alimony should be ABOLISHED everywhere.
the best advice I have as someone married for almost 25 years is don't do it if you don't want to understand the imbalance of emotional labour that will come out as a real cost if it doesn't work
“I’m a strong independent woman! I don’t need no man! Except when it’s convenient for me...” I think there needs to be more safeguards and restrictions against lawyers
I am a lawyer bud and have friends that couldn’t stomach divorce law. For every attorney who is a piece of shit.... plenty of spouses switch attorney as or threaten doing so if the attorney doesn’t take off the gloves and go to work on their still spouse. You see the most cruel nature of people come out. It’s why I don’t practice there. The laws need to change as people don’t live to 65 years old anymore and game the system so you your ex wife lives with her lover and has you pay for her him and trips to Puerto Rico where her lover bangs her on your dime. An attorney who doesn’t get his client the most money.... doesn’t get future cases.
I'm a strong independent women who doesn't need a man but I like having them around because I am a heterosexual women. I don't want to get married. I have my own shit and I feel the same as Bill. I don't need or want to be anyone's wife.
I don’t know if this applies in Australia... but I have never heard of a man having to pay Alimony to an ex where no children were involved. WTF??? As a woman I find that disgusting and so wrong on so many levels.
Lawyers are killin it but at what cost - such a negative world/business - had two lawyers five years back who were very frank/concerned for the legal system around divorce. . .
They don’t describe marriage as the marriage bond or wedlock for no reason. Those descriptions alone scared me away from marriage. 70 years young bachelor here and very happy about it. Heterosexual too.
The hardest part for me was not the money. It's finding out that the most important person in your life is not who you thought she was and the sense of betrayal that comes with the knowledge that she has been working with an attorney behind your back to set you up. I also lost my sense of fatherhood since the law gives the mother, by far, the largest part of parenting. Even though (especially with girls) the father is the one that validates the childs existence. My relationship with my daughter has never recovered. And, yes, walking into the room with the attorneys I felt like this was going to be an extended prostate exam.
Staying single is so smart and takes guts. I’ve never met one married happy couple ever and if I did I thought something was odd and I was right. Open marriage and he was loaded!
I love how women think being married makes the relationship more genuine. When in reality it's the exact opposite. It makes it more artificial and fake.
Child support is a scam too, my dad paid my mom child support, alimony, and her medical. She had custody of my brother and I but we lived with our dad. My mother didn't care, she just wanted the money. Haven't seen her in 10-15 years.
“A rich man can change a broke woman’s life but a rich woman would never look a broke mans way” - 21 savage
Michael J Nolan - well said sir !
Lold once i saw 21 savage
Michael J Nolan I married a homeless man. why? he appreciates it.
@Rex Erection no one asked if you like hip hop
@Rex Erection actually no. But I do understand that people have opinions. If someone likes 21 savage, let them. A lot of people do.
My wife just left me after 17 years. Just decided she didn’t want to be married anymore. The nightmare of dealing with the legal system will soon begin. Division of assets, child support, custody. And all I did was work 2 jobs for the last 10 years to make sure we could be middle class. What a shmuck I was.
Jeremy King feel you there bud, it’s pretty nuts when you think about it. It’s important to never give your heart to a woman as she won’t respect that, you must be resilient enough to keep your heart for you and always grow to improve yourself (and if you got them, your kids). Take care bro, it’s rough right after divorce but you can get through it in time. Keeping busy with your work and exercise will help a lot too
Get it over with dude and move on
Jeremy King it’s called being a simp we all learn hard way man sorry though
Stay strong. Get some good advise. Document everything you can that shows you are a good father. Get through it and walk away from women. Don't go back
And I bet you if someone had advised you not to marry her at the time, you'ld have thought you knew better😂; I don't feel sorry formen who get married anymore; I think you're an idiot and I hope she ruins you.
"Why would I want to invite the federal and state government into my love life?" Wow...he's 100 percent right.
I'm more surprised that people can't figure this out even though I constantly said it
@@kissme1518 I have always said that too. I am middle aged, never married, and am dating a woman for the last 4 years who makes far more than I do. However, she is used to being the pants-wearer in her previous relationships for me to really ever get on board with being married. I think it makes people complacent and a little too comfortable. I still be believe in some boundaries, whether that means having some time to yourself or not letting get to the point where you are taking a shit with bathroom door open while your significant other is home.
@@kevinmach730 You sound like a real winner. No wonder you agree with these guys. Thank goodness for your woman not forcing you to marry her. She might be hesitant.
@@Iloveswedes Meh, someone is always getting butt hurt on the JRE threads, you sound like you have quite a few hang ups of your own. Thank goodness you have your cats lol.
I heard a comedian phrase it "What idiot said this relationship is so great let's bring the government into it."
I'm with Bill on this one. Just because everyone is doing it doesn't mean it's right for you.
Bill’s pretty spot on with most his takes, and I say that as someone who leans right. But the way he articulates it makes me see his perspective on things. Some economic issues I disagree with him on but a lot of social issues I see eye to eye with him
I know couples who have been together years and never gotten married. Marriage is just a way for the system to get more money off you
@dragonking9377 all you need to know about this guy is he rooted for a recession to get Trump out . He's an elitist scummer
Dating is a waste of time tbh
@user-iw2bn3gz1n Marriage is a religious institution. You marry before God...
I never married, because married guys always told me “ don’t ever get married “. Thanks guys, for the heads up.
So many wise men told me that.
I smoked with my ex who was married and she told me never get married. 😂
Probably because marriage is hard... kind of like a teacher telling you not to bother going to college... it's not for everyone, and it's a huge cash grab.
As a married man for 18 years who is 3 weeks away from presenting divorce paperwork. DO NOT GET MARRIED!!!!!!!
Married guy here...
Women marry men hoping they will change, but they don't. Men marry women hoping they will never change, but they do.
To all single guys beware, once you sign the paper they change; they will slowly start morphing from a nice fun sweet cute little girl you fell in love with, to a nagging angry monster.
I'm 36 and so tired of people telling me I should be married. I'm like, "bro! Don't you see me all happy and shit? I don't complain about being single, YOU complain about me being single."
Stay single and even when in relationship live in seperate houses. My parents did that and so will I. Let them work for their own money
Lol
drunkensailor112 exactly, women want to be men and work anyways. They can pay their own way
Same here. 29 and don't miss being in a relationship, sex is the only thing that I care about. Women are just to much of a mood killing, energy draining creature.
@@essentialoilsme to true
My parents been married 38 years. They knew their roles. My dad brought home the money, and my mom took care of 3 kids and the house. No infidelity, honest with each other, priorities are right. Ran into some financial troubles but that never broke them. For rich or poor, sickness and health.
They’re from a different generation.
It’s funny. A lot of people don’t even get divorced for actual good reasons. People are weak and have fragile egos. They don’t look around and at themselves. It’s all on the Marriage
You Dont know your mom
@@Aviator_Walkerthe issue is the information is easily/readily available, modern women just refuse to see they are destroying themselves. It’s a cop out to say, “oh they are from a different generation.”
Sounds like you’re the common denominator
My girlfriend’s dad got married and divorced twice in the past 20 years, 2 different women, lost 2 houses and paying child support. Last time I heard of him he’s currently living in a van who knows, yup don’t want to be that guy 😐
Hard to feel sorry for him seeing how he did it twice 😂. The laws are definitely screwed up.
Damn..
" She took everything but the blame"......... Richard Pryor
Joe was talking about Tom Arnold, but there have been other men who came out like Roses. The hot blond (forgot her name) who was hosting GMA for decades got divorced and her husband got a treasure chest . . . so there is a guy who got a hot woman and her money . . . I forget his name but he is a God to me.
Mister Tropical Here’s the part guys like this ALWAYS overlook that happens a LOT: the classic story of the woman loyally financially supporting her husband through the lean years in his profession (med school, law school, aspiring actor/comedian/musician), and when he finally hits the jackpot, he starts screwing younger women, often giving the wife an STD. Fuck yeah, she deserves compensation for that shit. The minute a guy has real money, he thinks he can be unfaithful with no repercussions. Also, the alimony laws are meant to compensate the woman for the years and years she spent OUT of the job market, because she was home raising their kids and usually catering to the man also, while he worked. So let’s say he starts banging his secretary and completely devastates the wife emotionally and VIOLATES his marriage vows, she wants a divorce.... and now she has no current job skills and has yeeeeeeaaars out of the job market. Alimony evens the playing field for women. That’s how those laws came to be.
@@hardworker5588 The only man I can think of is Kevin Federline who was married to Britney Spears. In most cases (over 75% of cases) men are screwed financially when it comes to divorce nowadays though.
@@punanny123 --- I bet the number is higher than 75%. The unspoken truth is that laws are written to protect women . . . which destroys the notion that America is a nation that hates women and wants a handmades-tale society. It's the opposite of that. America hates men, and wants to shet all over them every second. The USA is a matriarchy and has been for 50 years. Which happens to coincide with our downfall as a nation.
@@calisongbird damn....
who hurt you?
I genuinely love my woman (not a wife)... most people do.
woman start more the 75% of the divorces and cheat as mutch as men do.
you proved once again:
most feminist just hate man.
Fellas it is not wise to sign a contract with someone who benefits from breaking it
Damn that's good
101st like
You said it all
sheesh bro that was fire
Mic drop!.........
I had a friend who would harp on and on about how great marriage was, because you "wake up every morning staring at the person you love more than anything"! He inspired me....to install a mirror in my bedroom!
Bruh 😂😂😂
Big Facts on the mirror! 🤣🤣🤣
@@drewclarinet
Yes, my "fact" is indeed huuuuge, but I don't sleep naked!
that was sleeek 😎😎
Bingooooo my answer to everyone who says why I should get married
"Call no man unhappy until he is married." (Socrates)
This was said almost 2,500 YEARS AGO--25 CENTURIES--and it's as true as ever!!
This proves my theory that humans will never change
"there is no new thing under the sun" -King Solomon 950 BC or so@@nathanhartland7153
He would know 😂
His wife was a real bitch....or so we are topd !
"you've never met a woman until you meet her in court"
Will try to always remember that
And then is when you legitamately experience the Jekyl and Hyde syndrome...holy hell
lol that's funny I went to family court for visitation talks, my ex went HAM and lied about everything, I was like this bitch is a good, they believed that Bat lol
Facts
Religious socialist sjws guys. Money money money!
“Paying for a lawyer to divorce you is like paying a hit man to kill you” - Chris Rock
damn who hurt you lmao
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@@itspricila Typical shaming language by women & simps trying to manipulate.
- who hurt you?
- are you gay? you must be gay.
- you're a weirdo
- you're a misogynist
- you need to man up, quit being a pussy
- you're just bitter because you can't get laid
- you are an incel who lives in your moms basement
- you have issues..nothing you are saying is valid.
- stop whining & step up
- you are a loser
- you need therapy
Girls and beta males regurgitate the same rhetoric in an attempt to psychologically put a man/boy back on the assembly line to serve women. You use these lines because I have told the truth about female nature & it threatens to subvert the feminine imperative. The female has a smaller amygdala than a male, so it would make sense that the vast majority of you can't deal with emotional stress as a man could. Furthermore, when you have nothing left, you begin to throw adhominens & pejoratives at me in order to defend your broken ego.
#Mgtow #Redpill #Leykis101
Mgtow
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I totally agree. My boyfriend just got divorced from a woman who refused to work. She tried to stab him with a shovel in his groin and he filmed her in her angry rage. She was arrested for assaulting him another time. Still in New York where we have no fault divorce he has to pay her alimony and half of his retirement. Seems ridiculous that anyone would have to pay an abuser but that’s our legal system and courts don’t care. Laws need to change.
Hopefully you won’t eventually do the exact same type of behavior in the future. 😮
Why would it change when the government gets some money from it as well ? 😂 not going happen sadly .
Dating someone who just got divorced has bad news written all over it lol
Ever stop to think that he made her crazy and once she did, he pulled out his phone to film her crazy? 🤔 you may not know this boyfriend until you also go to a break up with him, and then you’ll finally understand the ex lol
@@crystalglopez91623blaming the victim I see. You are excusing the abuser’s violent behavior.
My husband and I divorced on 2019. We have grown up children. No lawyers. We filled papers ourselves. The judge was so happy. We finished in 5 minutes.
Great
“It’s all about feminism until the check comes...” - George Costanza
movingonandup773 hey, if you can sucker a man to buy you shit, more power to you, I’m on your side. There’s always a sucker that will do anything for a pair of tits.
What a lame attitude - Fake people doing fake things...
I think we all know at this point that feminists only want "equality" when it benefits them.
deep
Most men I know have no problem with feminism but we all agree third wave feminism is cancer privledge seeking and is upheld by gynocentric laws and court systems as a fair response to the pendulum being in one direction I mean honestly historically speaking it's fair how much women can whine complain cry absolved of all responsibility and coddled after all there was a time they burned at stakes and couldn't vote let's not forget it's their due however the issue is pendulums swing in both directions and Trump is proof that backlash against feminism and PC movements in general is happening since we aren't trying to create true equality just make up for lost time with women well eventually the pendulum will swing to their side there will be a revolt and it will swing back towards outside again hence things like mgtow/redpill which I support(not the slutshaming/blaming women parts) I support the don't give a fuck about women do absolutely nothing for them and interact with them only to your benefit respect yourself enough to live your life because you don't own anyone it's just your turn
I’m not totally against the idea of marriage just yet I’m only 22, but the best advice I’ve ever heard in my life was what my mum said to me. She said “if you meet a girl that wants an expensive, over the top wedding then she’s not worth marrying, the wedding cost is the start of all the money she’ll take from you”.
DAMNNN 💯💯💯 SMART MOM BRO
Well, yeah. But traditionally, the bride's family pays for the wedding. Lol
Momma knows best when it comes to women and money.
@@thea-holegamerandfriends6754 well women are against tradition nowadays so...
Engagement ring too
Marriage is paying for no sex 🤣🤣🤣
Big time facts
And paying dearly.
😂
LMAO
but its not just marriage that can get a man screwed, I looked up Bill Maher and apparently he faced being sued by his ex for millions when he wanted out after a long term relationship. So guys, even just having a long term relationship without marriage can get you in trouble. Here in UK they are no bringing in extreme man hating laws to screw men over if there is a break-up in a relationship, even without marriage and I understand there are a few of these laws in America in some States. Its all against us men, and they are coming for us big time, no I am not being paranoid its the truth . Even having a relationship where you dont live together, she can end the relationship by cheating on you then sue you for emotional abuse down the line after its ended. Chaps, its just not worth risking having a relationship at all, I am dead serious, I know I would never get into a relationship for this reason and for a few others. Guys please stay single, financially its a no brainer.
Marriage is just scary and feels like some horror rollercoaster.
I mean it is bc you're not always gonna be the same. But if u r, it might be boring. And it's a weird balance to attempt being 1. Or a team or wever. bc all humans r off anyways. But so that's y I like exchanging ideas. Behind a screen.To try & gain clarity. Just W/ out the investment part... 💡 I think all ppl should define their own happy just to say they could. There, life cred.
Women: We want equal rights.
Women: Pay me for life if we divorce.
Why do you believe so strongly those two women are mutually exclusive?
@@alexarias5717 why do you believe they aren't?
also they don't want equality, they want superiority
@@MikeG82 Because in life, in our reality, it would never be one way or the other. That's tribalist thinking. There are feminists that don't believe in having sex with men because it's rape and you're convinced all feminists think alike. Have you ever even known a feminist in person? Not met once, but known.
Women: Pay me for life if we divorce.
Ink on the Prenup: Nope you ain't getting Jack ..... kick rocks.
That Binding prenup is honored everytime.
@@alexarias5717 yes my sister is a feminist
I'm "married" for 31 years. My daughter is 30 yrs old. Never signed any marriage certificate. Both of us can walk out any time but we are still together. I don't need any papers to be happy.
Common law marriage. Depending on the state they consider u married after two years of dating and living together. They can still take u to court and take half.
lol don't test that theory, buddy
My mom and dad were together 36yrs when my dad passed away and they never married.
Ja J thats the most fucked retarted ass law
@@autisticchoppa3589 put common law marriage and find sandman video. Knowing is half the battle.
I’m 58 years old, never been married, I think the reason I never got married was from sitting around the fire house listening to all the horror stories,.. now I’m retired and over the years have watched all my friends get divorced and the older I get the more and more frequently the stories roll in , I have three siblings, all three have been divorced , the latest one just became final ,his lawyers total bill $360,000.00 . my advice to younger people thinking about it ,… Jump !
You dodged a bullet.
My son is 12 years. For the past 6 years I have been telling him to never get married. Pisses his mother off but when marriage and divorce are all rigged against men there is no way I would ever do it again.
I'm glad someone other than me is finally talking about the insanity of marriage, and how men get treated in the slaughterhouse that is divorce.
Well done
Joe
It's good he is talking about it, but your channel is much more in depth on these topics.
Hey rich
Joe get Rich on the podcast!!!
Marriage law sounds crazy in America, UK isn’t great but it’s much more reasonable
Yeah no one's ever talked about divorce and alimony on the internet before.
Marriage isn’t for everyone and I feel like society doesn’t teach that enough
Daniel Tobin sooo true
Ya and as a guy if you’re past 35 and not married everyone treats you like wiredo and a creep. Society is fucked up.
exactly. marriage isnt for everyone. its only for women. any man that signs that contract is a fucking idiot
jarl-caysen amén brotha
Teddy James and there’s the homophobe
My friends divorced lasted 5 years, which 1.5 of that was during covid. But the divorced was 3.5 years before covid, and her lawyers dragged it out. He had to pay for his lawyer and hers. At the end of the day she took him to the cleaners. If you knew all the details it would drive you crazy.
Even child support has become the new alimony, because child support is not based on the child’s needs, but it’s based on how much the man makes.
well for a man who makes very little money that's a good thing though.
One business Advice
"Don't sign a contract with someone who benefits from breaking the contract"
yet it usually falls on deaf ears
Smh...Women.
It's simple as that!!
This. I knew this but I just couldn't put it into words
@BookBinder Bachelor That's a good one too. Because at least if you can hold divorce away from the wife you can prevent divorce. But no they have a way around it without your signature.
Don't marry a non-working woman whose dad is a lawyer....don't ask.
That scenario sounds quite scary to be honest...
Oh you poor man. That is fucked up
Sheesh
Lol...from the frying pan onto the fire
F
Love is love. The fact a contract carries so much weight tells you something is fundamentally wrong with society
Oh man, certainly
Relationships aren't about love.
"we are gonna be together for ever" that line would scare me …
😱😬 same
Had a woman tell me that, three years later caught he cheating when she left a chat app open on her computer by mistake. lol that was my red pill moment
Someone once told me: "You think getting married is expensive? Ha, try getting a divorce."
Limbos Vi damn..
😂😂😂😂😂
A german Comedian once made that joke...why is a divorce so expensive? Because it's worth it ^^
Haaa! NO KIDDING
You know why divorce costs so much..........its worth it
"I'm a gambler, but I'm not willing to risk half my net worth on a girl"
- Dan Bilzerian
He seems stupid but really is a very smart man ..
@@moin6077 he is indeed smart but no smarter than the average charming guy. He did execute his instagram plan perfectly. He only lies about the whole making millions from poker thing because he has to. the moment he admits his father gave him all the money he might get screwed but only a tiny chance
It only happen in USA
@@mikedrake9039 is he any different than the Kardashians? fake it till you make it!
Right Coast Here’s the part guys like this ALWAYS overlook that happens a LOT: the classic story of the woman loyally financially supporting her husband through the lean years in his profession (med school, law school, aspiring actor/comedian/musician), and when he finally hits the jackpot, he starts screwing younger women, often giving the wife an STD. Fuck yeah, she deserves compensation for that shit. The minute a guy has real money, he thinks he can be unfaithful with no repercussions. Also, the alimony laws are meant to compensate the woman for the years and years she spent OUT of the job market, because she was home raising their kids and usually catering to the man also, while he worked. So let’s say he starts banging his secretary and completely devastates the wife emotionally and VIOLATES his marriage vows, she wants a divorce.... and now she has no current job skills and has yeeeeeeaaars out of the job market. Alimony evens the playing field for women. That’s how those laws came to be.
Can’t relate, I’ve never married. My house is paid off, car is paid off, fat 401k and stock portfolio.
Him legend 🫡
I'm 44 years old now and I know more divorced people then I know married people
People feel obligated to get married. Just like people feel obligated to have kids, then become crappy parents.
Kids having kids.
I didn't feel obligated. Just love the woman and don't want anyone else. Have an awesome kid together and I wouldn't have it any other way. Just 4 years now and we're still great, so... 🤷🏾♂️ Just me though.
What a crappy assumption
"Been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding" -Harvey Danger
Ryan Kibler wouldn’t that mean according to him that his parents are stupid too
I got married at 23 and realized it was a huge mistake by 24 and we were divorced by the time I was 25. Best thing that ever happened. No kids...quick divorce. By age 26, I knew I'd never get married again. I'm 40 years old and could NOT be happier. Don't rely on someone to make you happy!!!
You lucky bugger. I have been living/ sleeping in separate rooms for 15 years and cannot afford a divorce. I used to look like Denzil Washington and now I look like Morgan Freeman.
@@punanny123 of course you can dude. Sure, it'll be an adjustment. But life is too short to be miserable. If you know the marriage is over and don't have young kids...get the hell outta dodge! It's NEVER too late to do what makes you happy! Good luck Morgan! 😜
@@punanny123 Yeah, but you can still act like Samuel Jackson and say "Be cool, bitch!"
@@punanny123 me too.. I feel your pain.
Marriage doesn't benefit men
If you meet a woman that wants an expensive wedding, its the beginning of how much money she's gonna take from you 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 exactly!
😂😂😂😂😂 exactly!
I love the part when Joe counters Bill rationalizing the meaning of a marriage certificate by giving him the guilt trip speech “don’t you love me?” 💀 😂
My girlfriend asks me about marriage all the time, then when I come home late my wife threatens me with divorce. Fhaggetaboutit.
minameise leave her then. Toxic 😂
"why would i invite the federal and state government into my love life" couldn't have said it better myself
I said this to my woman... she still doesn’t get it
@True Roman yep, all the lil fairytale bullshit to make them feel better about themselves
Well marriage isn’t supposed to be about the government, the government just makes it about them. Marriage should be about commitment and love (not just the emotional form of love) and honoring God
@True Roman to be honest I find reality refreshing I swear good women always get screwed over the most and you wonder why we don’t get married js
Sam you look like grandad earth
Never married. Single. Don't date. And loving it !!!
I don't understand how men are expected to maintain their ex-wife's lifestyle with money, when the women aren't expected to supply their ex-husband's with sex?
That's been the exchange since the beginning of time: money for sex.
Loads of men commit suicide after divorce....and not because their missing the woman
dave h 😮
goood
@Troll uNeed Yeah its funny because these guys are talking like it wasn't their choice to get married...
Its when men are still paying lots of money to someone long after they have moved on it becomes a problem...Even worse when kids are involved, who 99% of the time end up with the mother
Financial ruin is real.
"Marriage is the only war in which you sleep with the enemy."
Francois de la Rochefoucauld
Brilliant
That guy had it rough then huh
Fuuuudge🤣🤣🤣
Murat Alp fair bit of truth in that
Fuck, she did him so dirty that he immortalized her with this quote. What an infamous bitch
I’m a woman who has never married and I thank my lucky stars every day. My life has been so full of fun, adventure and love.
I go home to my own home and space. Peaceful and fulfilling.❤
Yeah, but most people would get lonely at the end of their lives
Enjoy your cats!
@@freedomaboveallll yeah, I call BS.
Absolutely correct. Who needs a man at home when you have to deal with them all day at work?
@@TreesusSmith No. They are sick snd old and fedup with each other. My grandparents hated each other. My parents had to have the police out. A friend at work had parents in separate nursing homes because they fought so much.
I'm single but I'm not alone. I have a great life. It's amazing how many people especially married people give you that puzzled look when you say that you don't want to get married or have kids. It amazes me the one-sided way people look at life like you're supposed to get married and supposed to have kids and there's no other way. I've also seen the jealous look of people who are married when I tell them I'm single and I do what I want. You can see the look of despair and resentment and can almost read their mind that they wish that they didn't get married and were free. If you're single and you've talked to married people I know you know the look! Hey you guys be careful out there! There's a lot of desperate women looking to take a man down for their benefit! Cover your ASSets my brothers!
My man...preach!
And sisters! I’m 67. Never married. No children. And happily with the same man for 25 years. He lives in his house and I live in mine. We share some really good times but live our lives as we wish. Bliss.
You are alone if you single
A real man gets married and raise sons and daughters. You are a pointless man
When a King marries a peasant, she becomes a queen. When a Queen marries a peasant.......oh wait that’s never happened before.
I housed my man and helped him a job when we were just a one night stand.🤷i worked 3 jobs, he stayed, i took care of him and helped him get a job, took him to his son every weekend, then we started dating. Now we have our own place and im 7 months pregnant.
I wouldn't say he was a peasant, but broke he was and rich we are now; without the money.
Kings don’t marry peasants. You’re being facetious because it never happens either way.
Ugly dudes believe In that quote. I got cousins who came out of prison with brand new Benz/bmw because of their girl. When I was my brokest I was pullin the baddest chicks, now I’m working I just don’t have the time. Look at Jeremy Meeks situation your quote is not true.
Agree with your point but technically it has happened now. The future Queen of Sweden married a fitness trainer.
@@stefannydvorak7919
Peter the Great married a peasant. Czar not king but the point stands
"Why would I invite the federal and State government into my love life" lol facts
💯%
I said those EXACT words way back in 1980, & I've never seen any logic that could defeat it.
Too late, the state involves itself. Paying for your children to be raised seems reasonable but anything past is excessive.
Love shouldn't be something that is written on a paper , I already own a printer, thanks.A ceremony with friends thats different and still celebrate a nice day ( without the bridezilla thing) it's ridiculous that feminists are just ok with these laws when they Say they fight for equality... Only when it's convenient.Makes other women like me gag.
I support Child Support as well but the problem is that the money doesn't always go to the children.
What amazes me most is when someone gets divorced, fails to learn any lessons from it, and goes out and gets married AGAIN!!! That's just nuttier than a fruitcake. When I hear of someone on their 3rd or 4th marriage, my head just spins around in circles.
What's even more amazing is that they treat that as a badge of honor and a sign of maturity!
My uncle, total schmuck, married for his second time aged 50 last month. Also my mother's cousin 59yo has been married and divorced 3 times, but I can see the motive from a minimum wage working woman - it ain't love.
I’m a Woman so I can say this. It’s amazing how quickly women wanting equality with men disappears during divorce.
EXACTLY!
It's also amazing how quickly a lot of men get to abandon their kids now that they are 'free.'
Not all divorces happen because of a woman's whim, lots of times there are solid resons to their demands, and not all women are trying to scam men.
Rosa Del Rio Not suggesting for a second that all women are scammers but unfortunately those that are (and lets face it there are a few) ruin it for those who are who have a legitimate reason to seek support. Women can be vindictive which leads to men paying for their lives (I do not mean where children are involved) and that’s where I think if women want equal rights they shouldn’t be looking to a man to provide it for them.
@@ashfield1425 solid point. I think people don't look deeply into the reasons/logic behind traditional "gender roles" and understand there is a difference between equality and the literal same. Men risk a modern day men risk a woman leaving them and recieving alimony (assuming he makes more). Women risk staying home to raise kids and then getting divorced and having no employable skillset to take care of herself because she's been out the workforce for 10 yrs. Everyone runs a risk in marriage.
Staci Hilliard Totally agree. My only caveat to this is where there are no children involved. Why should a man or woman pay after divorce pay to keep an individual in a style to which they have become accustomed. That does not speak equality to me. Go and get a job and support themselves like everyone else. That’s just my thinking.
I'm almost 30 and I decided sometime ago that I was never getting married, now after hearing these stories I realize that I made the right call
SageofTool same. I’m 35 and I’ve seen horror stories in person with a couple of my friends and online there are an infinite amount horror stories out there for us all to see
Welcome to MGTOW gents
When I came to realize that women do not love men, they only love what you provide and do for them I felt a relief that I was on the right path.
I'm sure all the women are devastated.
@@slappyx64 You stated ''I'm sure all the women are devastated.'' That is correct, a lot of women feel ''devastated'' as you stated when they see they're not getting the paper with the man's autograph on it (marriage) and that is ok. Let them feel the devastation all the way...
regards,
The flip side of alimony.
My cousin was married for 30 yrs, her husband wanted her to stay at home with the children.
He owned a construction company, made enough money they could afford it. As the children got older he still liked coming home to a clean house and a home cooked meal. She managed the home inside & out she did the yard work, grew a garden. In her 50s she started having health issues. One day he did not come home, he just left her without even a discussion.
She had no business qualifications & could not stand for long periods of time.
Her career was her family; she got alimony as she should have.
@@BlackTable0021 I see your point, but I guess it would depend the reason she left. An affair or abuse I would still hold him responsible.
If not either of those I would hold the woman accountable to support herself.
@rena6865 Even if those situations do occur, the reality is that alimony is rooted in outdated concepts relating to men and women's roles.
Women aren't unable to make money anymore, they can make more money than most men nowadays. Women aren't dumb, illiterate, or subjugated, but men are still expected to pay because the assumption is that men are all superior to women even if that isn't the case.
@@candideggplant1575 you obviously missed my first point. So No Comment…
@@rena6895wait I thought you said he left?
@@ddsjgvk My cousin’s husband did leave her. She did not want a divorce.
I was responding to a hypothetical situation where the wife left & should be granted alimony, in the case of an affair or abuse.
When couples make a decision for their family, that it benefits the family if the wife stays at home & makes her career the family; this often involves, managing everything related to the children & everything in the home.
Later it often transfers from taking care of children to caring for aging parents. (His & hers) By the time a wife is in her 50s & has no experience outside the home, it is very difficult for her to find a job that will cover basic living expenses. I think she should be granted alimony for the work she did for thirty years.
I had a very different experience, I have been a nurse for over thirty years. I had a husband who would not hold a job. We never had a discussion that he should stay at home. I would have been livid if a judge would have made me pay him alimony.
I definitely understand the other side of the coin. I am only referring to couples that made the decision together that it would benefit their family if the wife were a stay at home mom.
Why would any self respecting man sign his own death warrant?
Out of Love.......I'm sorry LMAO
The size on Joe's balls to be saying all these things when he himself is married. Phew! Respect brother!
Because he’s a real feminist,
He doesn’t believe women are weak and useless and need men to support them for food and shelter. He’s married to a grown woman not a little girl who needs a sugar daddy. He has nothing to fear.
@@spr1ngcactu5 Very astute observation sir... XD. Still, it's very courageous for him to say those things as someone who is married. He probably has a very strong and reciprocal relationship with his wife where they discuss whatever's on their mind; the good, the bad, and the ugly... ;)
I wouldn't call that brave.. More like, he hasn't allowed people to manufacture fear into his psyche. Being married has nothing to do with observing that it has situational utility, but generally not.
Dont lose hope on marriage, marriage is a beautiful thing. The back-bone of society and culture, instead lose hope on divorce! Ban divorce! Its good for no one except for mallicious women.
@@nreddy9980 Nah, a ban is ridiculous. Marriage is a legal institution, it has financial and social utility....if it was all about spirituality, we wouldn't get government into it. There can be legitimate reasons to seek a divorce.
I told my brother on his wedding day... The car is outside are you sure you want to do this? He said she put in her time and he was going to do it. Fast forward one month.. she stopped working.. two months.. she was doing drugs.. two years in he was laid off from work, they were losing their house and he was terminally ill. She didn't do SHIT! I got the call at 2:36 A.M. the day after my birthday he had passed away in his bed. All he was to her was a wallet!! Just say NO..and get in the car when it is offered. Rest in peace Bro..
Fuck dude...that's some heavy shit...you ok?
@@bolch88bb8 Yeah, I am now. Needless to say I do not celebrate my birthday anymore. Thanks for the compassion!! It is good to know there are still good people out there.
@@JimmyJamZ4328 this was a sad read, hope you're doing ok. i just want to add, i'm 37, and for 3 years now i have stayed clear from any relationship without even forcing myself, all i gotta say to myself whenever i start to kick it off with someone is "dude are you sure about this?" so my rule is sex is accepted but Friday night she's going home cause the weekend is dedicated to me. selfish? probably. do i care? not in the least. i am productive as much as i need to so i can finance my interests and then enjoy them. as far as kids are concerned yeah i love them, but not near enough to bring any to this meatgrinder. what i'm trying to say in this textwall is that, if you want to have a family and make sure humans go on, i respect you, but for me life should be ecstasy and we kinda make it a drag so don't regret anything. pressing F for the bro.
Much love bro sorry to hear this, life is full of tragedies but stay up and keep pushing forward, there are good women but its very hard to find them, 90 percent are money chasers
@@JimmyJamZ4328 I gotcha man...stay strong and if its any consolation your brother is free now.
Albert Einstein never understood two issues; taxes and marriage.
He married his cousin.
@@Myself-yf5do Correct.
One acquaintance was the victim of corporate down sizing, said the loneliest he ever felt when he was let go, when he was no longer the breadwinner, no longer brought home the paycheck, he went from hero to zero overnight.His wife and kids gave him no support. He said he knew plenty of other guys in the same boat.
One car aficionado told me "You're not going to drive the same car for 40 years, are you?"
I’ve never had a married man tell me to get married
slkskate red flag!
slkskate bahahahaha
I am unhappily married, trust me dont do it even if she is an Instagram model.
Mister Tropical who the fuck would marry an instagram model tho? Seems like thats ass backwards idea of an ideal mate, being a sucker for big tits and a round ass
Curt Schilldog, My insta gram model, keeps wanting to get married, and I keep telling her I am not ready. I don't ever want to get married. Time to come clean with her I guess lmao
I read an article years ago telling married men to have a secret place in the house to stash money for an emergency. Now I completely understand why.
Silver and Gold Coins
Only problem is, the wife has a secret stash too. Always.
@@tmcorey1 as Long as you get out with yours you good though
I've been married 47 years. I have seen so much change with regard to how other people view marriage today. Marriage is commitment to not only each other but to all the mistakes, pitfalls and potential windfalls you will absolutely have together over time. Some people love the IDEA of marriage. But the reality of it, not so much. If you go into it with the mindset that money is more important than why you even wanted to enter into it in the first place, then my advice is, DON'T do it. And here's the thing. Only people that have a great deal of money going into a commitment of marriage (both men AND women) use THAT as the foundation of whether their marriage may or may not be successful, that's why they feel the need for prenups. If money is the central focus, it's doomed from day one. On the flip side of that, when you don't have a great deal of money from the beginning, THAT isn't the central focus. So TOGETHER you build the life you want with each other. Money and people's greed for it, mixed with their egos is why most marriages fail.
It wouldn't fail if the woman didn't feel entitled to half of all the assets. The laws are the first problem, we can work out the rest later.
Fine, understandable, but what exactly is the purpose for the marriage to be legally binding and recorded? Why not just do a church wedding and leave it at that? There is absolutely no reason for anyone to be legally married.
Best comment ❤. The foundation of many marriages these days is completely off, and certain discussions are not being had way before you walk down the aisle. So many mistakes happen even before saying “I do”.
1000%, keep in mind women are, by their own admission, initiating 80% of all divorces.
Men are far from perfect, but 80% is OUTRAGEOUS.
I knew someone who got married for the sake of it. He was tired seeing everyone of his friends and family (even his younger siblings) married and he was already near 40 so he rushed everything to get married. It was the biggest mistake of his life. I'm gonna try to get married before 35 but if I don't then maybe being single is the life chosen for me. I WANT to get married but it is not a big priority in my life.
I'm 36 and unmarried. Life is peaceful and free.
HeavyLikesSandwich I’m 38. Just got in a relationship after 13 years. I needed to focus primarily on raising my kid, and dudes weren’t in that mix lol. I’m now in a relationship and I wake up everyday wondering wtf I got myself into. I loved the single life. The only way to describe it is exactly what u said, peaceful. I may be joining u shortly lol
@@jennycheeks9215 you're pretty
Respect 🙏🏻
People tell a lot of horrible things about living alone .. Is it really that bad?
@@moin6077 be happy and blessed with what you have and you'll never be unhappy when you're alone.
i remember my dad telling me, "a wife is like a hand grenade, remove the ring and your house is gone." back then i did not understand it because i was young, but now after seeing whats happening to ppl i know, i understand what he meant.
@Thanos hey don’t gatekeep you marsupial
Is bad even for woman who understand because it's not enough for me to trust you that you won't divorce me , the only woman who understand is the one who's willing to be with a man without marriage
@Thanos 😂😂😂😂yeah but the system won't tell woman that marriage is fake because is benefiting they don't care about family structure
Is up to woman the power is on woman on how to build a bond and create family, is always woman who file divorce but anyway systematic marriage ain't supposed to happened cuz is not natural
@Thanos well, do you prefer things don’t change? Because that’s what you’re doing when you discourage young girls from understanding and empathizing with men. At the end of the day there are selfish and bad humans they come in all genders and we shouldn’t give them leeway to take advantage of others.
I made the fatal error of proposing marriage after 3 months. Stupid. After the divorce (Surprise!), I made a pact with myself to date a woman for at least 3 years before considering marriage. Here I am 28 years later (retired and happy) and not one woman made the cut. You guys know the drill...she can be super-sweet and sexy those first 3 to 6 months. You think you hit the lottery. However, if you have the discipline to wait and watch, her true self will eventually emerge and you'll be asking yourself two questions; (1.) "Where's the woman I fell in love with, cause this ain't her." And the more painful question, (2.) "Did she really exist in the first place, or was it just an act?" Answering #2 honestly can save your life.
Marriage is a wonderful institution, but who wants to live in an institution?
My mom worries about me being almost 40 and refusing to marry. This is why. If it's real love, you don't need a sheet of paper to stay together. It's all a sham.
Just have a ceremony before some priest, but dont sign the state contract.
@@MrSidney9 I discussed this with my mother years ago. She said most priests will ask for the marriage license. I was and am thoroughly against that. Apparently it can be done, but there's the issue of children. As a man, you're not automatically tied to any children you have even if your biologically tied to them.
I tell men, especially if they're in their 20s, that they should save money and visit a third world country with no hint or the barest hint of Feminism there. They should also have basic skills that will be of use anywhere (carpentry and similar, auto mechanic, and be able to cook) so that they can go anywhere and be useful to themselves/their new home. They're scouting areas to live and once they find a place they like, they're done with the West. They can find a woman there, marry, have kids, and never go back home.
@@MrSidney9 fuck the priest
@vipkoli That's why I said barest hint. Basically wherever Feminism has had less of an impact. Unfortunately I think it's spread not just by Feminists but pump and dumpers who leave the West.
I'm lucky to not come from people who drank the kool aid. I come from generations of marriage but I had no interest in it and confessed to my parents. My parents told me that's fine and I SHOULD NOT live my life according to what I see other people doing and that would make my life miserable. Create a life that works for you as an individual and that is the only route to happiness, which is what success is.
When my ex left me, she went online and found these social groups of ex-wives and soon-to-be ex wives. They are all such big fans of divorce. They encourage each other to get out, cash out, and live the good life on their ex-husband's dime. Crazy. She cheats on me, moves out, and then expects me to pay for it and then some. Luckily I got a good attorney, and her plans didn't go quite the way she had hoped.... But going through the legal aspect of it took YEARS, and I often found myself wishing I would have just paid her to not have to deal with all the court hearings and memos.... In the end though, justice prevailed and she ended up paying me.
sandiegojoe god bless you
sandiegojoe wow she was an actual BITCH
Damn man good for you. So many arent so luckily or have the resources to stand up for themselves
In the words of the great Jeff the drunk "Nice!"
@@masterjaxmedia no offence bro... your finances don't pay for years of experience yet to be had, you aren't out of the firing lane yet. You are ONLY 21.
I been married 18yrs solid and we still root 5 times a week at least... its always been that way we are just fuckin animals for each other in the bedroom.. aside from that we are also the best of friends, we can shoot the shit and make each other laugh at the same shit.. its just "easy".. not boring.. easy, not stressful. I cant know for sure what the future holds but i do believe its one of those cases where we are just perfect for each other. Sometimes its just a case of not meshing, i don't mesh with other women, i dont even bother perving or giving girls attention, especially the ones that want all the guys lookin at em i tend to ignore, funny enough that makes em try harder lol... but they have a shit attititude I find them boring no matter how they look.
Maybe what we have is rare.. by the sounds of these comments i would say it probably is..
But maybe its the sex as well as getting along and being best mates... Maybe it takes a strong sexual connection as well as the mental stimulation you give each other. So find that girl who is just a total slut for you.. and marry her haha
Marriage is a contract that no man benefits from and the woman is rewarded for breaking it!
I like the 7 year contract thing...... perfect. Many women are messed up, like my mom, then we pick one just like her
Term limit contract doesn't matter. You will still have to deal with the exit drama shit show. That's the number 1 reason to avoid signing the contract. There won't be the exit drama if there was no entrance in the first place.
I already told my wife, if she ever wants a divorce, I am leaving the country. 16 years in the military has taught me that I can drop everything at a drop of the hat and not look back
Good to know 🤔💯
I can't imagine having a relationship like this. Are you and your wife friends?
Well after 10 years she's entitled to your military retirement
I wouldn’t have told her that. Her and her lawyer could make you a flight risk.
@lxlucylu88 CALM DOWN SNOWFLAKE.
Definition of marriage: "When you love someone so much, you get the government involved."
Definition of marriage: "When you love someone so much, you get the government involved."
Nice
In some indigenous cultures no government intervention needed lols just move in with your spouse do a commitment ceremony. If it doesn’t work out just simply move out
That definition is CREEPY AF.
more like you Dont get government involved. Marriage not supposed to have outside government involvement
I just talked to a guy yesterday that said he had to give up something he liked because she wanted him to. You here that crap all the time. I am completely free to do what I want at the drop of a hat. Do and not do what I want around the house. What ever I want I get. Will never go back to the "Institution"😁
Alimony is absolutely anachronistic to woman equality. Single women with no children can't take care of themselves?? Damn, never thought of it those terms before.
"When there's a financial incentive with ANYTHING, things get squirrely."
My feelings exactly.
I think we should give the Government more control.
@@bestdjaf7499 Yeah, I mean, we can trust those guys right?
Tell you what, even if in some bizzare reality, our elected representatives don't turn out to be trustworthy, at least we have selfless job creators & philanthropists like Mark Zuckerberg & Bill Koch to have our back.
@@dr.zoidberg8666
No Facebook US is on our side.
They love Women & Blacks very much.
They don't like the Little People, Poor, & Asians. Yet.
Look at our great Famous People & Corporations in China.
They support our Comrades in China.
I can only assume they are all in Saudi Arabia to support the Blacks, Asian Slaves & Women rights.
And it has nothing to do with money.
It's about Love & Children & Immigrants & Women.
I am totally promoting the idea to outsource all the Teaching & Government jobs to the immigrant Women.
I don't understand how long these White "Liberals", will be sitting in the offices with 100,000$ salaries & 100,000$ bonuses & long vacations to see the Brown LatinX People?!?
We should just outsource all jobs.
The immigrant minorities deserve more than cleaning the white toilets & driving cabs & working factories & ....
A lot of Immigrants have PhDs, & some are great educators.
Give us the good immigrant teachers & bureaucrats.
Create the new Immigrant Construction Unions.
#ImmigrantsDeserveMore
@@dr.zoidberg8666
Man, just look at the global warming.
That rich evil idiot Bill Gates wants to build his war designed Thorium reactors.
Using the Chinese unregulated chemical industries, we can build the solar panels & acid batteries!!!
And We have a lot of Chinese Engeneers to install a Solar Panel on every roof!!!
Yes it's not reliable.
Yes, we will have less sun & more water & more extreme weather.
Yes it's kind of usless.
But think on a big scale!!!
Why would we employ 50 white/Asian people at a nuclear station, when we can make solar panels in China & employ millions in China & the West.
All the Black & Yellow & Brown people will have money & jobs!!!
Yeh, maybe a bit toxic & dangerous, but still millions of jobs.
@@bestdjaf7499 you fucking communist sloth
Joe's sarcasm is so next level. Bill actually fell for it for a second😂
Bill isn’t a great reader of people.
I did too, the very first part, I was in shock that someone could say that, but then I was like ah okay
6 years ago my fiance eloped with her ex-boyfriend. Spent five years of my twenties not interested in dating because of that. So after 6 years what does my new girlfriend do? Take off with my best friend. What's wrong with me 😭
I’m 31 years old and have been with my girlfriend for a little over 10 years, we bought a house together 5 years ago, (under both our names) and we’ve lived together and go half on the morgage and bills, every one of my cousins and co workers say “ when you gonna have kids and get married?” I tell them why? Everything’s good if it’s works for us why would I want to get the government involved? If we ever decide to break up we sell the house split the profits and go our separate ways, doesn’t make sense to me to go get a piece of paper and complicate things, (keep in mind the people that keep saying this are divorced or on child support or both) my uncles and dad are the ones that tell me “your doing it right” everyone just wants you to be in there situation, (crabs in the bucket)
I only learnt about alimony like four years ago, and I thought it was such a STRANGE concept. Why pay someone you're no longer with... continually? What kind of system is that? Alimony should be ABOLISHED everywhere.
Its a very weird and creepy concept
0815 I get it and it almost feels like you need a contract signed every step of the way
@0815 Yeah, good luck finding a woman willing to do any of those things today. And yet alimony still exists....
@0815 lol fuck off. That’s dumbest bullshit ever.
@0815 but she decided to do that....
MARRIAGE is an INSURANCE POLICY on a woman’s rapidly depreciating MARKET VALUE.
Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports that’s perfectly stated, that could’ve been part of a stand up routine by Patrice O’Neal
That's exactly what it is at this point.
🤣🤣🤣🤘🤘🤘
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Perfectly stated....
Very well said
Check out Schopenhauer on marriage!
the best advice I have as someone married for almost 25 years is don't do it if you don't want to understand the imbalance of emotional labour that will come out as a real cost if it doesn't work
Hah. Honestly the emotional labor cost is what comes before the divorce
That's why Two and a Half Men is such a hit. Alan Harper is every divorced man.
yeah its a good show, Im surprised the “woke” radicals havent demand for its cancellation yet
And Charlie Harper was the man every man wanted to be!
That show sucks. Sitcoms suck especially with laughter tracks.
@@petyolobutov9807 Charlie absolutely was what every man wanted to be
@@RakkahSNOOFY Rather than being the man who pays chunks out of his hard earned salary to a malicious wife, I'd be Charlie coked out Harper any day.
“I’m a strong independent woman! I don’t need no man! Except when it’s convenient for me...” I think there needs to be more safeguards and restrictions against lawyers
I am a lawyer bud and have friends that couldn’t stomach divorce law. For every attorney who is a piece of shit.... plenty of spouses switch attorney as or threaten doing so if the attorney doesn’t take off the gloves and go to work on their still spouse.
You see the most cruel nature of people come out. It’s why I don’t practice there.
The laws need to change as people don’t live to 65 years old anymore and game the system so you your ex wife lives with her lover and has you pay for her him and trips to Puerto Rico where her lover bangs her on your dime.
An attorney who doesn’t get his client the most money.... doesn’t get future cases.
I'm a strong independent women who doesn't need a man but I like having them around because I am a heterosexual women. I don't want to get married. I have my own shit and I feel the same as Bill. I don't need or want to be anyone's wife.
I don’t know if this applies in Australia... but I have never heard of a man having to pay Alimony to an ex where no children were involved. WTF??? As a woman I find that disgusting and so wrong on so many levels.
Lawyers are killin it but at what cost - such a negative world/business - had two lawyers
five years back who were very frank/concerned for the legal system around divorce.
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You americans need another civil war. Get the soyboys out of your roster of "leaders". Remind them who really are in-charge.
My favorite part of the interview 7:15
Bills reaction
They don’t describe marriage as the marriage bond or wedlock for no reason. Those descriptions alone scared me away from marriage. 70 years young bachelor here and very happy about it. Heterosexual too.
I just sit around and watch everyone get divorced.
iamnotaprophet haha damn. Front row seats
iamnotaprophet me too man!!
I will jerk off to the very idea of people getting divorced. That's how much I dislike marriage
Lmao same. It's sad and I've lost all want for marriage, to big of risk for the male with no benefits.
Same 🍿🐒
“Marriage is a great institution, but who wants to live in an institution?” I’m with you, Bill Maher.
Lol, not me.
Stolen from Groucho
@@tridentdiving4040 Indeed. Groucho Marx.
Two Godless men, talking about a decree of God’s. _The depravity…_
Only ones who want to marry are woman , no sane man could ever want that. Maybe it was a good deal once, not today
Happily single.
The hardest part for me was not the money. It's finding out that the most important person in your life is not who you thought she was and the sense of betrayal that comes with the knowledge that she has been working with an attorney behind your back to set you up. I also lost my sense of fatherhood since the law gives the mother, by far, the largest part of parenting. Even though (especially with girls) the father is the one that validates the childs existence. My relationship with my daughter has never recovered.
And, yes, walking into the room with the attorneys I felt like this was going to be an extended prostate exam.
The most important person in your life is YOU
I have a feeling you’re a good guy
Politicians never talk about reforming the family court system even though it has an enormous affect on our lives. I wonder why🤔
Universal suffrage.
@Metroid83Mg
Yeah, but not many politicians are divorce lawyers. They practice in other fields, so it wouldn't have any benefit to them.
The system is rigged. It's prey-predator out here in just about anything, remember that
I got married when I was 25 and filed for divorce when I was 30. I am 38 now and I will NEVER get married again. EVER!
Same.
U got the right idea man. Hope everything is well
Too late
Right. It's marriages fault and not yours for picking the wrong partner and marrying young 🙄
You say that now
Staying single is so smart and takes guts. I’ve never met one married happy couple ever and if I did I thought something was odd and I was right. Open marriage and he was loaded!
Here in Florida, DeSantis passed a law to limit the time frame for vagimony. A marriage less than three years, no alimony is rewarded.
What is vagimony ?
it’s cool joe acknowledges “real jobs” as opposed to “the biz” he gets that us regular folk have to work hard! kinda refreshing
matt guibord nice remember that we’re slaves
@@indiaxlovee 😂🤣👍🏼 man you got me
Nobody could deny that show biz jobs are disproportionately rewarded.
If you search the richest women in the world most of them got their money from divorces. “Strong and independent” 🤣🤣💀
Some random idiot is gonna give you some exceptions
You sound broke and bitter 😆
Lol at skull emoji.😂😂
@@sallydoe987 not really you seem broke dude
@@sallydoe987 that’s every girls comeback but if you need somebody to pay for you like a fucking kid aren’t you dependent and bitter?
The cause of divorce is marriage. Once married, you can never be together again because you want to. Marriage is devastating to any relationship.
I love how women think being married makes the relationship more genuine. When in reality it's the exact opposite. It makes it more artificial and fake.
@@YetAnotherRetardedYTUpdate I believe it. It's kinda sad. You both just stuck with each other destined for mediocrity
Child support is a scam too, my dad paid my mom child support, alimony, and her medical. She had custody of my brother and I but we lived with our dad. My mother didn't care, she just wanted the money. Haven't seen her in 10-15 years.