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- Codex Astra Militarum is nearly here and there's been an image of some funky monkey Guardsmen floating around showing some really great regiments... the problem is I don't think those are going to be actual kits, so how do you make an Imperial Guard regiment your own? Let me know what you think in the comments!
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Games Workshop need to be aware that this is potential lost revenue; people will look elsewhere for their guardsman model conversions, and buy far less as a result.
A L W they're already making bank on selling models, paints, books, etc etc.
No point going through designing and making machines and forging it all for a small minority
The thing is I don't think that it would be that hard for them to make conversion kits for your guard. Or maybe even make a guard kit that has tones of options in it. I mean most of the sculps already exist for these models we want we just need a way to buy them in bulk. Also one reason why guard isn't as populer is becuse : 1 they are not Space Marines, 2 they don't have much options. You ether go Cadian, Catachan or one of the other regemnts that still don't have enough models out for you to make a whole army out of them so you'll still need to buy Cadian or Catachan. If they made a converion kit for cadians to become Miasman Redcowls or a kit to make Catachan into Ork hunters, I'd buy a few of them. They'd work great with my steel legion. Instead I'm looking at buying the 5 pack snap fit Cadians and painting there clothes orange so I can have penal legion conscrips for cheap.
Problem is that the molds for the plastic are very expensive and other regiments as plastic models won't happen for that very reason. It's just a risk they aren't willing to take. Even the support for catachans has silently been reduced since 8th was released.
They sure as hell can throw everything at the wall when it comes to space marines, people will buy them, they are the poster boys of 40k after all. The guard always has been less popular than Marines and the Regiments other than Cadians and Catachans ALWAYS have been very niche and you woudl rarely see anyone who has some. If the demand would have been higher, maybe we would have plastic Steel Legion and Vostroyans by now (although i really wonder why they never revamped Vostroyans, i used to work as a retailer for them and Vostroyans were always sought after, albeit on a low level)
That being said, with the new regimental doctrines in the new Codex: IG, i wonder why they don't revamp their old Guard regiment. The plastic SoB announcement with definitive evidence, that they work on them together with a release date (2019) gives me a sliver of hope, that maybe, one day, we will see the old regiments of the IG again, in all their glory.
When you say regiments other than Cadians and Catachans have always been niche I'm wondering what is effect and what is cause here.
While, yes, Cadians are somewhat relatable as in they are just normal people, nothing too badass, I would expect for example Steel Legion to be at least as popular as Cadians if they weren't that expensive and made out of metal and very limited.
On the other hand, having to buy an upgrade-kit for every infantry unit I buy would make IG even more expensive than it already is. But does it even make a difference at this point? :D
I mean niche in the sense that the weren't popular with the majority of the playerbase, even way back in the day cadians and catachans were the best selling guys, a problem made worse when only cadians and catachan got plastic kits.
Sad.. Im still hoping for New Steel Legion models...
i gave up and orderd heads and torsos that look like steel legion from mad robot minatures
Check FW!
FW is expensive
@Bob Walker Man...You are a Saint! Emperor Bless you!
same xP
GW create new models that people want? Forget about that, have some more Primaris.
My old abbadons missing both arms and his head, lol unrelated
I like primaris...
Doctor Melgarejo yeah me too, it’s not like nobody wants That because they do sell very well
Yeah no more umans in tin kanz! Dat's time for more Orks! .....And some squishy bugs and pointy ear bastards. Me guess.
tell them to fuck off and use personal recasting to make those conversion parts
I used Anvil as well to make a WW2 themed desert rats Imperial Guard regiment. Zero complaints here, high quality casts, and even something as simple as a head swap onto a catachan body radically changed the look of the whole model once paint was applied. For an extra 10 quid per squad it was worth it for me.
SorcererDave this just brings them to the price you pay for Space Marines, the army only grows slower
Used their bits for a headswap on my Scions, only problem I has was that I chose a very broad helmet that collided with the bulkier body armour. Even then, a tiny bit of green stuff as a gap filler and it looks great. 10/10, will be using to customise my regular guard once I decide on a theme (Something with long coats, definitely...)
I am planning on making a WW1 regemet for in the British/American but I am having trouble with a name
I'd settle for something like the Space Marine Chapter upgrade kits. Enough heads for a squad, maybe a few torsos and some add-ons unique to the regiment for standards or backpacks or heavy weapons, etc. Would still be a bit costly, but it'd give us maybe more of a chance.
And yes, more fighting ladies!
Upgrade kits? Fuck that - if you'd be satisfied sticking a Ushanka on Cadian armour and calling it a Valhallan, just buy third party headswaps. Once GW start producing milquetoast "upgrade kits" for guard, we'll be trapped using Cadian Shock Troopers and those ghastly-looking Catachan models FOREVER. AND we'll be paying £8 extra per squad just to make them uniform - who the hell wants that?
Better they just release a Steel Legion/Vostroyan dual-kit (a la the Skitarii Ranger/Vanguard kit) and call it a day. Their uniforms would be much more convincing to convert Tallarn, Mordian, Valhallan etc, instead of that hideous bubble-shoulder Cadian gear.
Jack Timson I don't disagree. But I'm going with a most likely case, IF they do anything at all. Which they probably won't.
craggylotus more ladies. So tau, eldar, dark eldar, tyrinyds and sisters of battle don't exist
a name not in huge numbers in the Imperial Guard they don't, no. Try and recognise the context before you go getting yourself triggered.
If you don't care about going to official GW events then there are lots of historic miniature ranges out there that make good guardsmen. A box of 48 Victrix Napoleonic infantry is £20 for instance. Don't bother replacing the muskets (since there are a ton of las-rifle variants anyway)-just find something to be used as special weapons and you're away :) Meridian miniatures are good for special weapons. Napoleonic cannons and late victorian Gatling guns work well for heavy weapons. Just one idea of using a historic range for 40k.
Many guard regiments are based on historical units/uniforms already so buying historical miniatures really is a convinient way to get yourself some Deth Corp or Praetorian guard and other units
Get yourself on to anvil industries regiments kits, you'll never go back, so long as your wallet holds out... Although there stuff works out much cheaper if you but whole custom squads/platoons
And whenever questioned "those aren't GW miniatures" I just say "the day GW makes plastic Valhallan ice warriors, I'll buy them, in the meantime..."
Ross Phillips you happy with the new models?
Couldn't agree more, I've completely gone over to making my infantry out of Anvil Industries parts, great quality and wayyy more customisation options
I like to think of Cadian's, as a sort of "Standard kit" for Guard. Most worlds would just get a standard Imperial kit, in perhaps their own colors. If the regiment I want to represent is specified as having a particular look I will try to find the models to bash into that look, but if I am just bulking out guard, I have no issue with Cadians with a different scheme as a home brew regiment.
Love 3rd party stuff!!!
Scibor
Spellcrow
Anvil industry
Creature Caster
Kromletch
Atlantice miniatures
Are all great
Yeah couldn't give a fuck about GW events and they've made their stores alot less welcoming to play in.
@@Bran_Redmaw oh definitely! GW told me I couldn't play in one of there battle events as I had OOP miniatures, and this was after setting up too
@@callumbignall1877 I understand if they don't want you playing with 100% 3rd party miniatures but if you buy one of their kits then add a 3rd party head because they don't produce anything similar then so what?
@@Bran_Redmaw I agree, but the miniatures they wouldn't allow me to use were there miniatures just older kits, I was playing necrons & I had the old Wraiths, the reason they gave me was that they no longer sell those models & don't want other shop Gower's seeing them & thinking they can buy them,
Also about 4 years ago they GW wouldn't let me use my old metal Giant and there reason was as it's a metal kit if it fell it may cause damage to there board of the other players models.
Like I can kinda see both reasons but it's still very odd practice, I've been playing at Darksphear games since & they have never had a issue with anything
@@callumbignall1877 yeah that's bang out of order I have a full Kasrkin army which are far superior models to the Tempestus Scions I have no intention of swapping them.
-Get Blue Stuff
-Buy a couple kits
-Buy epoxy
-Make a blue stuff mold
-Profit
yes
Goddamn it after watching this video I'm now hell bent on outfitting my entire catachan army with fedoras...
My Dkok have plenty of women. The people of Krieg are equally expendable in the eyes of the Emperor, whose redemption we all seek.
Technically the Women of Krieg are needed at home to pump out more mooks and (wo)man the production lines, the administratum would be enraged to find out the kriegers would be giving them troops 0.006738% less effective troops.
3 years after the words "new imperial guard army" and the IG players wait still. We are truly honorary xenos
Those Victoria miniatures look amazing. Those are some great Earthshaker cannons right there. Great video. I'm gonna look into these bits to add to my renegades.
thejonsonator I thought the same loads of neat stuff there the Victorian arms are what I'm gonna use on old empire (fantasy) army.
Just went on Anvil and ended up spending a little over £20 on some new heads and cloaks, cheers for the recommendation!
Surely just releasing an upgrade kit for certain armies would be a good option?
A box with verious head, weapon, torso swaps wouldn't be that hard.
Then people could just buy that and sprinkle those bits amoungst the catachan or cadian kits to create alternative builds.
I mean you can more or less make chemdogs by taking genestealer cult head and there is an upgrade kit for that (I cant see any mayor work required for that).
but yes some more lose kit set to transform a cadian build kit to another unit would be good.
Love Anvil Industries they have a great product but be aware the heads don't fit on cadian torsos easily the neck is both wider and taller than cadian heads so you will need to do some filing down before they fit but once on they look fantastic
All Games Workshop needs to do is pretty simple and would open so many possibilities. Run a bitz section on their website. They kinda do it with Forgeworld in terms of "upgrade packs", but being able to go to their website and order 10 chem dog heads, 10 catachan weapons and a box of 10 cadian troopers (for example) would result is so much new variation in army style.
The Guard army i want to kitbash would be so expensive and i'd just end up with hundreds of then useless bits i'd never be able to use due to half the model being missing. Kinda off putting.
The only thing i would say in regards to 3rd party bits - if you plan on going to any GW hosted event, their "event packs" state the models have to be made from GW items. Now, i dont know how much checking they do (did none at warhammer fest that i saw) but i wouldn't go overboard with changes otherwise you run the risk of getting noticed and not being able to play.
Still waiting for Krieg models...
4444 1313 hahaha, pushing illegal stuff. Wonderful.
Not gonna happen since the frenchies are on FW. GW isn't gonna release a cheaper version of them when people are still willing to buy FW ones.
yet they released great Death Guard marine, terminator, Great Unclean One models even though Forge World miniatures sold pretty well too. I'd say that GW does very unexpected things sometimes.
Actually... Quite a lot of the times since they changed their CEO. Fair Start Collecting box prices, great value in Dark Imperium box, bunches and bunches of new models, story moving on in 40k, cardboard terrain in some starter sets. Lovely. I'm very pleased with how they're doing business these days, it's just unfortunate that several armies that many players hold dear in their hearts don't get as much attention. I would love to see new imperial guard stuff, new necrons, etc., but I have to be honest - i'd probably never buy them, because I spend way too much money on plastic already.
>this video comes out in 2017
>nearly 2020, and no major new guard stuff
>feelsbadman.png
Statuesque heads are indeed great , the sculpt is nice and the casting is high quality ( better than those " fine " cast from GW that's for sure ) . I'm not totally sold on the fact they're in metal though , as i've heard there's more issues when painting metal than plastic , need to give it a try !
Theres talk that as part of their gender push they are gonna release plastic sisters as part of their 12th codex release early in the new year with intention they could also be used with kitbashing female guard and that was the reason the kickstarter for a female sisters like army was cancelled. Of course take with a large dash of salt as plastic sisters are to the tabletop what Half Life 3 is to PC gamers.
So what your saying: Half Live 3 is confirmed to come our early 2018? ;D
Watcher Zero Half Life 3 confirmed!!
Ole, that's exactly what he is saying.
Plastic sisters? HERESY!
Pirate I knew it!
There's a lot of us who are hoping for Plastic Sisters (my wife is one of them), but yeah, GW seems more interested in giant primarch models and more Space Marine variants.
Hey Bud, responding to your request for 3rd party reviews.
Victoria Miniatures... Where do I begin. The only con I can think of is shipping costs from Down Under. It is pricey. Especially if you're ordering 10 parts for a squad, shipping is going to cost more than the items. Its a case of how much you value the individual feel the conversion give to your army, over spending money.
Now, the pros.... These sculpts are beautiful! I love them. I'm currently starting a Praetorian spearhead detachment using the pith helmet heads on tank crew. These heads fit in with the scale of Cadians quite nicely. The casts themselves, I would say rival Forgeworld. I've never ordered from FW, I am too poor to do that, but these heads are orgasmic on all the right levels.
I'm not sure if this is commonplace with Vic's company or not, but last time I ordered, I got some free goodies too. Namely, 4 female heads and a dress torso, meaning I have FREE parts, to convert a second tank commander as a commissar etc. (Officers peak cap being one of the heads included), who is also a woman!
I would recommend Victoria Miniatures 100%. Excellent quality and I'm yet to have a problem with them.
Love you guys Vic
Dave The Yorkshirman Victoria is fucking awesome. When you order for over 50usd you get free shipping and she even threw in some free bits when I did that :)
*The Gw-Inquisition wants to know your location*
I'm a manic when it comes to this stuff, no model in my Emperor's Children army is standard.
Kromlech are awesome for Orks and Chaos.
Toughest Girls in the Galaxy are great for full 3rd party stand-ins for female troops, Dark elves/Eldar, Tau, Guard, Daemonettes.
Spellcrow are quite new, but have a good range for Marines and Chaos Marines.
Wargame Exclusive produce awesome alternative sculpts for Characters.
Maxmini have tons of heads, torsos and legs for Imperial Guard, but also a huge armoury of ballistic and las weapons.
Creature Caster are fantastic if you think greater Daemons should be a little bit grander!
Eggy Von Turbo where can i see pictures of your emporers children mate?
imgur.com/a/GxBR3
There is a place based in Germany called "megabitzshop" that sells individual bits which could be useful for making armies like this. Started using it meself once I found it, P&P is a fiver when under 30 quid, but it's worth it.
Sad I still gotta get the full, re-breather style helmets from forge world directly.
They're great, I used them when making a Dark Elf Blood Bowl team. But their stock is sometimes a bit low, and there are british based companies which do the same for a similar price and cheaper (and faster) postage.
bitz world in the states doesn't charge much for delivery either. Most of these examples could be made fairly easily as they use popular kits.
Other vendors with reasonable (as reasonable as this hobby can get that is) prices are Fuchi and Hoard_*_Bits on eBay
I totally agree, my infantry are mostly from Anvil, with a few bits from elsewhere. I actually don't care about playing my Guard army at GW events, there are plenty of clubs and tournaments that don't specify you use GW models.
And if I did want to play at my local GW, I could just bring my tanks - a Russ army is entirely feasible now.
where else do you get bits and pieces from?
In my opinion, GW could learn a lot from how Anvil Industry does its Regiments range. By having a decent pool of interchangeable parts they create Massive scope for creating distinctive Regiments. GW could either do something similar with selected parts or just do what we've all been secretly hoping for which is make 10 trooper squad boxes & command squads of the all the Major Regiments (Tallarn, Mordians, Valhallan, Vostroyan, Steel Legion etc) whose parts would be all interchangeable so we could kitbash easily from official kits we can use in store without penalty. At the moment I use Anvil Industry, Mad Robot Miniatures and Victoria Miniatures as my primary alternative for human troops as those companies are serving an area GW is conspicuously ignoring. The Guard are supposed to be the most numerous of the Imperium's armed forces and yet they have so little options (in plastic). It is actually really disappointing that the lessons they learned when making the first plastic space marine box sets came (i.e. having sets with interchangeable parts encourages creativity) has been forgotten. I personally am tired of Catachans (models are ancient and ugly compared to their command squad) and of the Ubiquitous Cadians who are pretty much the Ultramarines of the Guard (thrust down your throat at every opportunity). Give us variety! There are dozens of different pattern Lasgun, let's see some! Give us some different legs and torsos and for the love of the Golden Throne so more dynamic poses (I would love some guardsmen in a bayonet charge!) Or even lying prone or enough kneeling legs in a box to have two ranks of firing troops! (Some bits sites sell kneeling legs for £2.99!)
@@emile1365 ideally, they could at least make 7 regiment boxes of similar quality to the Necromunda Gang boxes which have 10+ gangs now with Redemptionists on the way? I don't think it is too much to ask given Necromunda is a niche game and people would buy far more boxes for viable guard armies. Also, Necromunda gangs get Forgeworld head and weapon upgrade sets. A Mordian set with a Pith helmet upgrade sprue would mean you could make either Praetorians or Iron Guard from one set.
@@emile1365 luckily for me, even more 3rd Party options exist since my original comment and the 3D Print/STL/Patreon offering has likewise exploded. It is a shame that GW is neglecting the Guard so much (even more so for certain Xenos factions)
If I had more money, I'm thinking of grabbing some slouch hats from Victorian miniatures and making my own ANZAC themed imperial guardsmen
Joel Cox I was so thinking about this too. Kinda of a recreation of the Blain character (Jessy Ventura) from Predator.
-hey it makes as much sense as a bunch of Sylvester Stallone’ lookalikes running around the galaxy to fight for The Imperium.
You have inspired me to start an Imperial Guard army.
The head from the Miasman Redcowl comes from the Chaos Cultist set, but with the small pieces at the mouthbreather removed.
Maybe we need to take a look at Black Powder range from Warlord games for certain regiments.
Some of the miniatures from Warlord would look great done up as modified Mordians
Spacefrisian the only problem with warlord is that they're a much smaller scale. They say it's 28mm heroic, but compare them to a guardmen and they look like midgets.
If you are in Europe, Kromlech and Spellcrow are pretty awesome providers of alternative stuff. Kromlech has a huge range for Orks, from longcoats, fat torsos and legs to full alternative Meganobz. I have bought from them in the past and it was well worth it.
Spellcrow has a really nice range for Chaos additions, like corrupted and god-specific Rhino doors, torsos, heads etc. I bought guitars (you read that right, GUITARS) and skin tabards from them for my Emperor's Children. I bought three guitars and 10 tabards and they sent me 10 additional tabards, five heads and 5 torsos from their "Noise Marine" range free of charge as a thank you for ordering.
The head on the recowl looks like a Wood elf gladeguard head with the rebreather from the command box.
Alagass chaos cultist
Rich the Unstable no, chaos cultist has their eyes covered, this guy is plane to see
I have Spellcrow heads on my ultramarine scout company, and I have used some of their vehicle upgrades. all have been fantastic. Scribor Have some great parts too, I have a WIP Inquisition land raider that looks like a rolling church thanks to them.
Good take on things. I have always liked the guard as they provide the true human element within the narrative. One reason I'm not sold on AoS.
Another thing you can do regarding changing cadians is to create a lore about your own regiment. Mine is that they were abandoned due to casualties being so high that it wasnt worth picking up the last few guardsmen. To represent this im using some of the geads from the gsc kit and filing down the ridges on the forehead
One major difference between Space Marines and Guards is that in the lore Space Marines use power armour based on the same basic patterns with some details individual to specific chapters while Guard regiments are described as a having huge variations in apperance. The modells should, in my opinion, represent that or the lore and fluff becomes basically pointless.
it would be cool if they did a focus on making a few boxes that let you choose different uniform types for your armies. so instead of a box being everything buy a box with a legs and bodies, then a set of heads and then the arms. imagine the variation with just 4 of each?
just a simple 3 or 4 base bodys and 2 sets of heads and 2 sets of weapons per kit and you have a massive amount of variation.
just standard mobile infantry (cadian basic), Greatcoats (like armageddon and valhallans), hench Savages (catachans and ork hunters) and Void born(enclosed space suit looking dudes)
then choose from infantry helmet, gas mask helmet, space helmets, fur hats, turbans, peaked hats or feathered hats (and of course no hats at all)
and an arm set from muscled, mobile infantry, Dress uniform, heavy coat or loose fabric
if each box had one body uniform, 2 different sets of heads and 2 sets of arms. it would be pretty easy to make these kits print on demand, or even sell the specs so people can print their own (i know, pie in the sky, but this is exactly the right product for them to dip the toes)
I converted mine to have boltguns. I used the cloaks with the sniper gun bits in the command box, cut the sniper gun off and had the guns in place. Now I'm using them as acolytes
Miasman Redcowl Head is from the Wood Elves Wildwood Rangers Kit with a respirator from the Cadian command squad.
I intend to use parts and kits from all shown third party companies as well as from GW and forge world.
It will be my third standing army, second detachment, and 9th army owned.
Keeping my main custom space marine based army, Flesh Tearers detachment, this new army with a mix of I'm guard and unique unit's from third party group's will be used for a skirmish sized D&D like game type myself and some friend's will be running locally :)
As for anvil, that's where most of my third party parts come from, love their stuff.
Seems like your Imp guard will be Elysium drop troops like in term's of esthetics
Bit of a recommendation for anyone looking for IG alternatives who stumbles across this:- Victioria miniatures are nice, esp if you want to add female guards to your army, scale wise come in about same size as elysians or kreig from FW, lot less flash though.
Anvil really nice, just ordered a few bits for test and conversion and will be ordering more, detailed minimal flashing.
Zing, good for random odds and sods, esp for vehicles, found them invaluable for getting rid of the church on the back of my baneblade and stormblade (a hatch, a vent and some plastic card), only negative is they come with big blocks of resin on some of the smaller items but it's nothing that can't be cut around
These are the ones I've used most for IG infantry and vehicle conversions to make a decent variation of regiments... oh as a side if you want a simple way to make trench coat guards a cadians field jacket can be extended down with green stuff to make a fairly decent trench coat (if you play in store and want to avoid being banned from using models cause of 3rd party parts)
the savlar aren't too too bad if you switch up the torsos and legs of basic neophytes and guardsmen you get twenty men for the two boxes. great video and totally agree with you. hell even bringing back bits orders if they are going to focus the book on kitbashing...
tbf, forgeworld has been doing a good job supporting the Death Korps of Krieg (Granted in resin, but they still look great)
When i first started gaming there was a book gw did where you could buy every individual part you wanted it was made and sent to the shop for you. It stopped purley down to proffit so you had to buy more. It was loads better when you could
Stormcast helmets on Skitarii bodies with lasguns. Super fancy, super mechy guardsmen
Took 3 years but hey now we have plastic krieg and a new upgrade sprue
Victoria Miniatures is awesome
Republiken yeah, I ordered my first pack yesterday
The Miasman Redcowl head may even be a chaos cultist.
So here we are in 2022. We got Krieg, but we already had those from Forge World anyway. I suppose more affordable greatcoat bodies does open up several new options, like Valhallans, as you'd just need some winter heads to make them convincing. Still hoping we get another Guard kit that provides parts to allow us to make some of the other regiments more affordably.
the redcowls are a kitbash of cadian bits, wood elf head, and iirc scion or command squad re-breather mask.
Watching this video, it just occurred to me that those Anvil grenadier legs could be stuck onto T’au Pathfinders to make some sort of elite Gue’vesa
I'm building Savlar Chem Dogs with a mixture of Cadian torsos and Forge World Renegade militia torsos. I'm using Genestealer Cult neophyte heads to replicate gas masks along with 3rd party gas mask heads and backpacks, along with bits from a number of gw kits. It's time-consuming, but I think they look great.
Anvil Industries are brilliant, I've used their highly customisable models for my Inquisitorial Acolytes and the mould quality is excellent, better than anything I've got from Games Workshop. You could easy make any of the main regiments or make your own custom regiment from Anvil's range. The kits aren't that much more expensive than GW kits if you buy full platoons rather than than individual bits as well, cheaper than buying metal GW models anyway.
OMG, I've saying this for years and people look at me like I'm crazy. They have opened up the doors to us to create a IG that we want and make it our own. Some people just don't have imagination.
I swapped out the Cadian heads for some Victorian heads from Victoria Miniatures. They have those nice pith helmets. I hope if I ever go to a Games Workshop store that they won't be too picky about it.
Back in 1990s, GW did release pith helmeted Imp Guard based on the Zulu movie of outfit and character names, so you should be ok. If not, remind them of the metal cast miniatures they did release then discontinued
I can see your point, but with green stuff and a visit or two to a bits bin, you can build anything you can imagine.
I made an army of Fallen Dark Angels back in 6th Edition. I simply did a 50/50 mix of Chaos Space Marines and Dark Angels veterans. It turned out really nice for the wallet because no parts ended up being unusable given the specific theme of the army; but even more importantly, it looked really good simply because all of the parts were already interchangeable.
Right now I'm thinking of doing a Tanith First army for my wife (we're reading the Gaunt's Ghosts novels together). My wife is pretty set on using the strictly third party models off of Victoria Miniatures, but I've also considered just ordering a bunch of camo cloaks, and a few female heads and torsos off of Victoria Miniatures and just throwing them on Catachans.
Haven't purchased any 3rd party miniatures/parts. Was watching leakyCheese's channel. He purchased a squad of 10 female guard, from Victoria Miniatures. He was positive about them. Thanks for sharing.
Funny thing is that space marine chapters have those upgrade sprues for the various founding chapters. So it's not like GW doesn't do it.
I'm using mainly Victoria for my army. They are of decent enough quality, usually a little bit of flash to clean off and maybe some light patching with greenstuff.
Aunt Vickie's minis and bits are the best. Never had an issue. I really hope GW does give us something new in the near future. I'm ok without it being right away though I'd rather it had been. They did promise that even if you got a new codex and not yet new stuff, that you would at some point in the near future. I'm only hoping they weren't lying and planed to keep to it.
Anvil are great, I made a squad of Praetorian Guard for nostalgia sake.
Oh boy...
I wish I had known about Anvil Industries before I bought and assembled all my guardsmen and veterans.
Im tempted to try and at least swap the heads.
I made a pretonnian guard army by using Cadian body's, empire pistolier heads but cut the flash hiders off the lasguns, added empire pistol barrels to the end of laspistols, very unique but as pointed out , VERY expensive
I agree, i do love the cadian sprue to mash with my chaos cultists. And i must say that Miasman model was extraordinary, i really fell in love with it
I take any opportunity to blow up Anvil. Great quality, fantastic service and, for smaller projects, surprisingly affordable. It would be great if they started doing more vehicles though. I heard good things about kromlech for tanks.
I absolutely love their range but I don't suppose you know of anywhere else to go for weapons?
Was thinking of taking a stab at one or two troops from my Only War regiment, The Halcyon Dusk Riders, but it's remarkably hard to find the right cowboy parts.
Want to make your IG look distinct and be affordable? Do what I did; use plastic Cadians as a base and throw in copious amounts of 3rd party bits. Mad Robot is my go to as a Yank, and there seem to be multiple companies in the UK. Also, do a unique color scheme.
I run a mostly Valhallan Army, and I just got Warlord Bolt action Russian Winter infantry and equip them with 40k bits. You can get 40 infantry minitures for 60-70 USD, I also was lucky enough to get enough bits for cheap on Ebay for 30 USD. I would have to pay 140 USD just to have the same numbers with Cadian miniatures. Granted I cant play in tournaments, I just want to play with my friends and for fun anyways.
Rewatching this, I gotta say:
We did get *some* Tanith First and Only, in that, we got Gaunt and Co.
with respect, there was a number of female guard figures that have come out of Games workshop at one time or another. My guard army includes the following female figures: Rocket girl, Warrior woman, Grenadier girl and a female Commissar whom I have been informed was a Games Day Figure from 1996
My biggest regret was starting a stock Cadian army. At least I didn't paint them in the 8th Cadian beige and green... Now, I have too many of them to feasibly do something else with my Guardsmen.
Emir Wat Tambor Mixed regiment?
Yeah just have a mix regemnt. I plain on using some Cadian's in my Steel legion army. Right now is a great time for it in lore too sense none of the Cadians are at Cadia anymore so they are all being sent to other warzones.
Ideally they would make about four webstore exclusive Upgrade sprues for twenty troops, and include a sheet in the Base Infantry box advertising the option. Probably not going to happen though!
I'm doing a snow themed army as I want to paint white and snow camo. just requiring head swaps mostly for it. there's a producer of 3rd party heads that has a few sets of heads I'm going to use. going to replace all the cadian heads with these, and then sculpt furs onto the leaders and stuff.
might be able to get more into it with conversions and that, but for my base army getting started they just require headswaps.
also looking forward to working out how to make icicles to have on some of my tank barrels and stuff. also making my own lore based on a frozen forgeworld as I'm having a mechanicus themed detachment and also snow themes assassins that I'm really looking forward to converting.
By not releasing new guard they keep shooting themselves in the foot. They only need to replace the catachan infantry squad and keep the finecast in production for the others.
I've done an infantry squad and HW squad with the Renegade Militia Conversion set torsos and filled in the chaos symbols with green stuff. Not painted yet, but they've got a Mad Max / Waterworld kinda look.
I think the redcowl is from the chaos cultists
I'm disappointed but i'm not really surprised. I'm hopingthey at least update the Tallarns, Mordians and Valhallans, but I guess I shouldn't set my hopes up too high.
the redcowl head is a Skitarii Ranger head. i use them all the time for my Necromunda Cawdor gangers
Gotta give a shout out to Pig Iron & Maxmini. My Guard all use Pig Iron near future ballistic heads & just about every trooper sports a Maxmini, FW/GW or pig Iron backpack.
Puppets War & Blight wheel miniatures are worth a look as well. Blight Wheels Hellington range have some nice guard figs. Reptilian Overlords are a new group as well, seeing some lovely stuff & great reviews on FB of late.
If Guard ever get upgrade sprues for infantry I would cry in tears of joy. It'll never fucking happen but I would cry.
Just have Plastic Cadians, Plastic Catachans, and Plastic Kriegers and then you'd fill out the full range of soldiers in kevlar, soldiers in shirts and vests, and soldiers in fatigues.
Then put resin upgrade sprues on Forgeworld. Make it just like the Secutarii sprues. Take a Krieg, put a sword at his hip and change his head and now he's a Ventrillian Noble. Take a Catachan, give him a camo cloak and arms holding sniper gear and now he's a Tanith first-and-only. Take a Cadian, replace his arms and head and now he's a Tallarn.
Obviously I would object to paying another 40 fucking dollars for a conversion sprue but if it'll get GW to make Guard at least a little more modular I'd be very happy.
I've got currently got a Mono 4k, Mono X 6k and an 8k 3d printer on the way this summer.. There are stunning stl sculpts available so I don't need GW to do anything for me at this point.. 3d printers go brrrrrr. I'll not sending money GWs way this year aside from some Necromunds stuff, tough break GW shareholders, you can kick rocks.
It would be good if you could do what they did old catalogue orders and request certain parts only would make imperial guard kitbashs easier
How making primaris instead of making kits for different IG regiments and Astartes chapters felt like the better idea, still absolutely baffles me!
I’m planning a small imperial guard force to go along with a Baneblade variant and found anvil a little while ago. Don’t plan on making them a main army I play but I want some options for what I play with friends. And with anvils custom regiment product it’s actually cheaper for me
Also personally glue, puddy and greenstuff are musts to make special regiments these are very usful and multi functional
took my leftover ranger vanguard helmets and filed them to fit on the cadian bodies
I’m planning to create a couple of converted Imperial Guard regiments, starting with Praetorians. Seems fairly easy for the regular guardsmen: just start with the cadian kit, and swap the head for a 3rd party head with pith helmet (possibly the legs and/or torso as well, but then nothing much would be left of the GW model...). Haven’t found a good solution for the shoulder epaulettes yet though.
However, haven’t GW stated that not even converted models (ie with 3rd party bits) can take part in official games?
My guys are a bunch of Cadians and a few Catachans; I swapped out a few heads, got some cloaks from Victoria Miniatures and presto: Tanith 1st
Agreeing on the paint scheme discussion and that it doesn't make Cadian models not look like Cadians, but I think it's inverted for vehicles. Go look at the Wyvern on the webstore; it's done up in Valhallan colours and it looks so different to all the other vehicles, even the Hydra that it's 95% the same plastic as. I think that's why different colour Space Marines work and Guardsmen don't; vehicles and marines have very large flat surfaces on which the paint scheme is the primary defining aspect and they're primarily one colour; armour. Guardsmen meanwhile are smaller and more greebled models that are primarily at least two colours; flak jacket and fatigues, and then most will have boots or skin tone or even their guns in a different colour.
TBH I think the Genestealer Cults Acolytes box is enough to do Savlar chem-dogs as shown in that image. They wouldn't have exactly the right torsos but the head are good. And I think GW out to be capitalizing on that; it's literally just a regular Cadian squad with the headswaps from the Acolytes upgrade sprue included. They could easily sell upgrade sprues for other regiments; longcoat legs and headswaps for Miasman Redcowls, for example. Mordians are basically just one of the torsos from the Command squad, they could probably make a sprue of ten of that easily.
an Aussies two cents
as we don't have that many gws stores here and none that you'd want to game in, the hobby is cheaper now than back in the all metal 80s, getting minis posted from the uk and sold by weight
get a 30ish infantry box from warlord games, perry or victrix, then add arms/guns, maybe headswaps; for gws bits, generally they come in packs off of ebay stores, the rest of my armies I build from mostly online UK independents (quicker and cheaper than USA), and of course Victoria minis
Some new Cadians would go down nicely for me!
You Convinced me to convert parts of my Death guard using some forge world and 3rd party kits to make some models look more unique.
Check out Kromlech (Morbid), Spellcrow (Plague Legions), and Wargame Exclusive (Rotting and Decay).
Eggy Von Turbo thanks bro!
The Miasman Redcowl head is an Admech Ranger head.
The difference is that Space Marines have been fairly uniform from the start. There are variation by unit that are chapter specific, but by in large a space marine is a space marine. The major difference is the paint job and the chapter insignia. Imperial Guard on the other hand are very similar to old-hammer. Their look is entirely based around diverse real life cultures and looks. I personally always like the Cadians (the army I collected is Cadian), but I don't begrudge and fully support an expansion of regiment options. Money is no object, I'd love to make a mixed sex Valhallan army.
It's not, none of the Ranger heads have visible human features.
It’s not a ranger head
I'm using Kromlech's "Bedlam Fraternity" parts to make a squad of noise marines They also have excellent weapon options.
Preach, I have been looking at Anvil myself and they are great!
You really missed an important point regarding space marines, which is that there are many plastic kits for Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, as well as upgrade kits for other chapters, and the same doesn't exist for Imperial Guard. I suspect many people would be happy with some simple upgrade kits with different heads, cloaks and other bits to represent some unique Guard regiments. Wouldn't be useful for some regiments (eg Tallarn, Vostroyan), but would be a reasonable compromise at least.
The alternate paint schemes are still cadian, the 7th Ed cadia supplement shows different regiments have different paint schemes but are still cadian
I think a few of those FW upgrade kits would be really useful for a regiment like the Vresh Grenadiers, to really sell the rough and tumble ganger look.
I'll probably use them for my own army.