So are we not going to talk about running in place or the crab legged headbanging. Like why are they running in place, what are they trying to get away from?
I love this classic joke. If you are lost out in the wilderness, walk in any direction for 30 minutes. And you will run into a metalcore band shooting a video.
my friend wore that EXACT "get on your knees" shirt to school when we were in like 10th grade. Our teacher called him out, but did not know the song that it was referencing. My dude told the principal that it meant "Get on your knees to pray" and they let him wear it forever after that lol. They had no idea what Asking Alexandria actually was. He pitched it to them as a Christian band and it worked
I'm quite late, but that reminds me of when Ned Flanders thought "Get Bent" shirts meant "Get Bent On Your Knees and Pray." "Get bent everyone!" Shit. 😂😅
Since he started talking about the tied up girl trope I was wondering if he mentions this Atreyu video. Wasn't disappointed. However it still ends with them switching places...
"It should be illegal to have Ron Jeremy around so many young people." That comment has aged like a fine wine. You literally win "The Internet" of the Year award IMHO.
"Mom stop calling us screamo, I told you we're a post hardcore band" I laughed so hard since I used the same argument to defend some bands when I was younger
Now that you covered the generic music videos, I wouldn't mind hearing what you consider to be the best/most creative vids! Also, in defense of some of these tropes, I think it's fine for bands just starting out with no budget, but I love when a video has "re-watch" value, and not just for hearing the song.
A separate one for videos that fit the song especially well and videos that are just really creative and well done would be great too. I like how the video for Slipknot's "Snuff" fits the song, but it's not the best music video I've ever seen for instance 🤔
As someone from Columbus Ohio that was in a metalcore band back around this time; I appreciate Finn recognizing how weird it is that Columbus was pumping out so many metalcore bands back then 😂
When I was a kid living on the other side of the world during this time, I thought Columbus must have been the coolest town ever and I legit wanted to move there as soon I was 18
As someone who still lives in the area and is somewhat involved in the local scene I can say that now it's normal.... nobody's coming out of Columbus now😂😂
As a Brit I was totally about to rage about the Your Demise being an example of trying to emulate the US culture, like we Brits don’t have house parties or something.......but then I remembered the dice clips and the fact they went to the trouble of getting US currency. So, yeah, fair point!
Used to love the era when your demise were about. Must of seen them about 10 times supporting other bands throughout the years kinda sold their soul I always thought once the first vocalist went
Just had a war flashback of my mother losing her shit with me and breaking my 2nd bmth suicide season album bc I placed my stereo out of my window and wanted everyone to hear my angry cries. I definitely deserved that one.
tssss, la escena core nacional estaba chidita. Nosotros en el norte teníamos a Lobia haciendo toquines en hoteles ylv, ahora que lo pienso, era nuestra versión del American-core esos días jaja
Metalcore bands: Guys, I have a great idea... we have electronic instruments, right? Other band members: Um... yeah? Metalcore bands: Well, what if we shot our music video IN THE RAIN?! Other band members: Hmmm... sounds electrifying!
as a former label manager, I gotta expose the untold truth: those videos are constantly repeated because they're extremely cheap to make. The tour video in special is a classic record label gimmick for second singles. They put a lot of money on the first single's video to launch a band or album with a big impact, then surf on the wave with a cheap tour video made with footage they just captured basically for free during last touring season. I've put out tour videos for bands as big as Imagine Dragons (the 'Demons' video) back in the day, and it was always the second single.
I legitimately don't even mind this. It seems like a smart strategy and probably makes a good profit. I also enjoy some of those videos, and some are better than others. I happen to really like the video for Playboys by Midland.
"Just a bunch of American pop punk kids having a backyard party at their house in the United States of America" damn dude i lol'd and now my gf knows I was looking at YT instead of working haha
No kidding. A lot of those bands took of because of their videos. You'd think that would be a bigger deal now with social media being such a big deal. I can remember all of the videos from the mid to late '00s from Bullet For My Valentine, Killswitch Engage, Avenged Sevenfold, and the like. It's what made 12 year old me go full all black everything metalhead. Scare my mom and got my dad to break out his old Judas Priest shirts.
@@johnathanwilson1363 Well in all fairness, there's only so much you can do galloping on the open drop C string and playing on the 7th and 8th fret on the A string.
I was thinking the same thing. Plus, you can let loose and Transform those areas more easily. A lot of the tropes can be easily done in a warehouse. You can build a white room, pour in water (or blood), have a massive party or live crowd video, have girls tied to chairs, AND MORE.
"nobody watches a grungey warehouse video and goes, fuck yeah that was so cool" i'm laughing because i absolutely do that. my favorite weekend thing is exploring abandoned warehouses, so these videos are a way for me to do that without leaving the house
Finn making fun of rain videos Me: Well the BFMV video tears don’t fall kind of made sense. Finn 5 sec later: Unless like the BFMV video which that kind of made sense.
Fun fact: Ron Jeremy would actually appear in literally everything he was asked to do even if it lost him money. Apparently it turned into a genuine issue when he was asked to do cameos and commercials overseas.
I’ve read that Europeans have American themed parties where they drink out of solo cups and shit like that. Maybe we should have European parties where we drink out of champagne flutes and kiss our friends 😂
Do you realise that Europe is super diverse and you cant use this scheme on every country ? Kissing on cheeks and drinking wine would be possible option probs in Southern parts of Europe (not the Balkan) , but try this kind of stuff in Central or Northern Europe and you become a weird guy pretty quickly. On the other hand , There are several thropes from C/E/N parts of Europe which would be super strange if you did them in Southern parts. And then there is whole UK which is completly different in party culture from the rest of the Mainland Europe. But in States the same beerpong college party will be held as in Washington as in Georgia so 🤷♂️ ( Not sure about my last sentence tho. I think its just weird grammar structure that i used. Sorry english is not my first language. )
@@richardkinier you're good. your english is likely better than my ability to write whatever your mother tongue is! but yeah, for sure, we're making cultural generalizations. i agree that many things are more homogeneous in the states than in europe, regarding social norms etc. but i think that europeans, generally speaking, have more in common with each other than they do with americans, so the "lumping" together of european cultures makes sense (from an american perspective). that said, there's a lot of diversity in the states too. regionally, socio-economically, in terms of race/ethnicity, etc. same sorta things you get everywhere. the one that comes to mind is work attire: on the west coast, things are much less formal than the east coast, and the south and the midwest are a mixed bag
@@gnarzikans As a brit I very firmly disagree that europeans have more in common with each other than the US. UK Culture is far more similar to US than mainland Europe and its not even close, honestly the only thing in those videos that supposedly "look american" that genuinely gave me america vibes where the white shirts with sleeves that are a different colour, practically every party I've been has had red solo cups there for beer pong and other games and in the clips shown there was practically nothing to make me think oh that must be america, Finn just knows bugger all about outside of the US
Mr. Morningstar some states are definitely they’re own country culturally like California and Texas but some states are similar regionally. The Midwest and South are examples of multistate regions that are similar to each other even as you cross state lines.
AA- "A Prophecy" for sure makes sense if BFMV does. "I should've known the tides are getting higher We can still survive They think we're drowning But our heads are still above the waves Above the waves." js
The irony of that statement was the video was Lip Gloss and Black by Atreyu, and was more about the couple having a BDSM fetish... further irony... at the end of the video, the girl is tied in the chair while the guy walks out.
I think another cool video idea would be discussing what could be called "Memecore." Sure parody bands have been around for decades, but I think there has been a massive increase in -core bands just writing songs about memes or humor. An analysis on this trend and what it means for the scene would be tight! Also do you know if you can do a video on this current trend of altrock/emo/melodic hardcore? stuff that has been coming out over the last few years. Stuff like Awaken I Am, Makari, Selfish Things, Palisades, recent Being As An Ocean and a bunch of smaller bands on Dreambound. I haven't seen anyone talk about or try to give a genre label to this style.
2:00 Mudvayne - Happy? 3:10 Limp Bizkit - Rollin' 5:18 Flaw - Payback 6:22 Godsmack - Straight Out of Line 7:19 Linkin Park - In The End 8:33 Mudvayne - Dig
The Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up was probably the first ever 'plot twist' clip where the protagonist is actually a girl...I wonder how many bands were inspired by that or if it's just a coincidence? I don't really know but it's still my favourite film clip to this day. And no, you can't find it on TH-cam but if you run a search on Google video you should be able to view it.
Would love to see how you think we did with the whole "acting american" kinda thing since we're from Sweden. 🤣 We skated around town and threw a house party with a bbq (and yes, we had beer pong and red cups which for some reason are crazy expensive here in Sweden). If you wanna check it out the song is called Built to Last and my band is called Out of My Way. Reply to this comment with what you think in case you decide to watch it. Keep on making badass content 👌/A long time fan from Sweden
Haha nice. You've got the red cups and the barbecue! What's the stick throwing game? I would say horseshoes would be a more normal American game. But who knows? Maybe it's played somewhere in the country.
Nice song. Reminds me most of MXPX. You pulled off the "American BBQ/hangout" better than most. As someone else pointed out, that stick game was the only head scratcher. Way back when it would be horseshoes, but now it would be cornhole.
Missing the tropes of UK bands that show them walking around a council estate/block of flats to show how 'hard' they are or the other trope I saw on Kerrang a lot of band playing in a dark room with a wall of lights/lit up tunnel behind them
This guy gets it. I was never cool at school so the Sorry You're Not A Winner video by Enter Shikari as well as the tv show Skins made think that's what all house parties were like
@@AlexGreat321 Think that video for sorry you're not a winner is permanently burnt into my mind, love that the other videos from that album also involve parties/odd private gigs too 😂😂
When you mentioned A Skylit Drive, I had a total “holy shit I totally forgot they even existed and I’m now hit with the utmost nostalgia of my scene phase” moment lol. You mention so many bands that I totally forgot about but have so many memories from
another metalcore band who did it is one called I Killed the Prom Queen, not sure the song, but an Australian girl I met on myspace showed me them (they were also an AU band)
I was watching this at the party video part thinking, “I know you aren’t going to miss mentioning that one Xibalba song that everybody knows” and you nailed it. You’re so tapped into the culture and I love it. I’m so thankful to my buddy Chris for mentioning this channel to me.
When we graduated from Emo music and told our parents the music we were listening to now was screamo, that stuck with them and from then on everything we listened to was screamo. Didn't matter if it was post-hardcore, death metal or heavy metal etc. If there was screaming in it, our parents called it screamo.
Limp Bizkit played on the roof of the World Trade Center in the "Rollin'" video back in 2001. Limp Bizkit also had an early "playing to a girl tied to a chair" video with "Eat You Alive" back in 2003.
You left out my favorite trope: The movie/video game tie in. Best examples: KSE's End of Heartache (Resident Evil: Apocalypse). Atreyu's Her Portrait in Black (Underworld: Evolution),.Paramore's Decode (Twilight). A7X did multiple songs for Call of Duty with Call of the Dead (Black Ops). KSE''s My Obsession (God of War: Chains of Olympus). All that Remains' This Calling (Saw 3). I also swear that Atreyu did a video for the 3rd Twilight film (Children of the Damned album, I think it was Wait for You) but it has evidently been scrubbed from the internet. It may have been a fan video, but I remember it coming out before the movie and that being the reason I stopped listening to the band (cause I was a badass Metalhead and Twilight was for scene girls). If anyone can find it, please link it.
I mean to be fair, if someone approached you and was like "Hey I know you're trying to make it big and get some exposure. Millions of people are going to see this thing and hear your song, if even 10% of them enjoy it that's still pretty significant" Of course you're going to do it. Plus A7X are pretty huge gamers and loved Call of Duty so why wouldn't they? I wouldn't really say movie tie ins or Video games are a trope, some Video games need real music or benefit from it and even the worst of movies still use music from actual artists instead of their own scores..... but I do get where you're coming from. (I'm pretty sure
@@sinswithin I wasn't criticizing A7X, I loved those songs and collabs. My buddies and I all got Call of the Dead and worked for hours to get the song to play. Great stuff.
the rain trope was likely caused by the Goo Goo Dolls live video of "Iris" "guys we'll be Iconic if we play in the rain like the Goo Goo Dolls. That video was legendary."
My least favorite trope that's guilty across all forms of metal is the we're best friends video where the band members are constantly being seen having a good time while it cuts back and forth between them being the best of friends and having a live concert with their fans all happy and everything and it usually contradicts whatever the hell the song is about.
Early examples of these ideas include: Underoath - When the sun sleeps Poison the well - Botchla New Found Glory - Hit of miss Atreyu - Ain't love grand
"I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed." LOL OMG Finn this video was so much fun. I get that it's supposed to be kinda meme-y and maybe poke the algorithm in all the sweet spots, but man I had fun watching this. Also. there was ONE cool warehouse video. Judith by APC. According to the commentary on the DVD, David Fincher had to convince Maynard and Billy to do a performance video because they didn't originally want to do it. It's a classic for me, but I've never seen anybody do it quite the same way, cuz David Fincher man. lol
Man when I was younger ALL I wanted to do was be on the road with band dudes. That was my biggest dream and aspiration. My teenage self still lives inside me but sadly there was never any way for me to make that happen.
The only one of those girl tied to a chair videos that even kind makes sense is the Famous Last Words one. The whole album's about a crazy dude becoming obsessed with his neighbour and completely snapping. Probably could've found a better way to do it but it's a pretty decent album and at least the guy doing it is supposed to be the bad guy.
One video I quite like is Motionless In White’s Thoughts And Prayers official video, the first part is chris - the vocalist - taking peoples hearts and drawing on their foreheads with blood, then it transitions toward the end of the song into that typical sort of rain but instead it’s blood. It’s also shot in a completely white room which gives off a cool vibe with the blood covering everything
Infant Annihalator’s “Decapitation Fornication” will always be one of my favorite music videos, with the drummer using twigs as sticks and rocks and leaves as a drum kit. It’s all so goofy and more importantly self aware. Almost as good as Immortal’s forest video.
i genuinely don’t mind when bands do the warehouse/rooftop videos 😂 cuz if they opt to not have a dumb storyline included, then it just becomes about the band’s performance, and that’s usually pretty engaging to watch, especially if it’s directed decently.
I like your channel. Being from Columbus, now living in Cleveland, and being in bands in the 90's, I don't know how I missed the Metalcore movement. I guess it was because when I was in the scene, you had to have 1 or 2 rappers in your band that could kinda sing, solid state amps, and 6 Mr. Bungle like breaks in a song. Now I know why that girl was tied to that chair in videos I saw early in the morning before I went to work in the early to late 2000's.
Famous last words video was different though, in the sense that the video and the song was part of a whole ass story, a psychological horror concept album. Still holds up great
When he started talking about the house party videos I was hoping he would bring up the “Sorry, you’re not a winner” video by Enter Shikari.. it’s one of my favorites and it’s pretty Iconic in my opinion.
Underoaths music video for writing on the walls was dope,the dollhouse was an interesting concept.💯🤘🏻that’s what really got me into metalcore when I was a kid.
I was expecting As I Lay Dying and Sleeping With Sirens on the warehouse part, Blessthefall on the "were just a bunch of teens" And,Suicide Silence-Disengage on the white room
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It won't fit in my Wii U or Retro-Bit Trio... not even the Gameboy Player on the Game Cube...
It's a nice Fallout Shelter ripoff.
So are we not going to talk about running in place or the crab legged headbanging. Like why are they running in place, what are they trying to get away from?
Hustle Castle, Fallout Vault looking ass lmao
Is this really the end for Raid: shadow legend?!?
I love this classic joke.
If you are lost out in the wilderness, walk in any direction for 30 minutes. And you will run into a metalcore band shooting a video.
If your in Scandinavia you’ll find a black metal band
hahaha
If you're in ohio you only have to walk 15 minutes
@@Masked_SVincent or in rare cases, should you find yourself in an open shore in scandinavia? There WILL be a Viking metal Band nearby
Jon Sivert Brænden very true my dude, they will test your strength id imagine so
Always have a battle axe with you just in case
The girl tied to a chair things just screams 'friendzoned revenge fantasy'.
I have always thought that it's a badly done tribute to those old school serial killer horror movies that always have a similar scene.
definitely subliminal
Oohhhhhh i never even made this connection
Even when I was 17, I thought this trope was very creep and misogynistic. Some Incel vibes.
This trope definitely appealed to me with my unresolved abandonment issues I had as a kid
"They tried to be American, but then ruined it by being just a little bit too classy"
Enter Shikari- Sorry, You’re Not a Winner is the classic house party music video.
And before that SUM41 - makes no difference
Nofx - leave it alone
I dare say slipknot duality trumps this...
ETID decaying with the boys, theres a dick in that video and it's still up on youtube lol
The early November - decoration video was cool
There's nothing wrong about kissing the homies goodnight
It’s only gay if you’re kissing them good morning.
@@adamg.manning6088 What? You don't like to spoon your homies?
ohalistair . No comment
I'll kiss you goodnight even tho idk you
Nothing wrong with letting the homies run a train on you goodnight
my friend wore that EXACT "get on your knees" shirt to school when we were in like 10th grade.
Our teacher called him out, but did not know the song that it was referencing. My dude told the principal that it meant "Get on your knees to pray" and they let him wear it forever after that lol. They had no idea what Asking Alexandria actually was. He pitched it to them as a Christian band and it worked
😂
I'm quite late, but that reminds me of when Ned Flanders thought "Get Bent" shirts meant "Get Bent On Your Knees and Pray." "Get bent everyone!"
Shit. 😂😅
Mudvayne started the white room thing. I like to call it "the Apple store video"
Brr brr DENG
It was the video for Dig
It wasn't rage against the machine?
So you're telling me nine inch nails did not make a white room video in the early 90's to steal from?
Lmao mudvayne ironically also shot a video in a grassy field 😂
Best description ever.
"The white dress is supposed to be hope and the grass is supposed to be her father!" That had me dying hahaha
When he said this it reminded me of people who get generic tattoos but then try and put a ton of personal meaning into it lmao
Lmaoo same!!😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yessss this 😂😂
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Calling everything screamo is the same thing as people calling pretty much all electronic music “Techno” in the 90s.
They still do haha
Same shit
Or calling Skrillex a dubstep artist.
Nobody listens to techno
@@ChristopherJames1993 Hes not????
When he said "I don't want to think about my HOA fee, I just want to get slurpys with my friends"
I felt that.
No kidding! I felt that hard.
Yeah, that struck a nerve.
Same here. But they did do a good job on the new flower beds.
“Plot twist: the killer is her... but she’s a sexy killer.” 😂😂😂
oh that excuses everything
Totally read this in peter griffins voice
Finn's reaction to watching Scream 4
Since he started talking about the tied up girl trope I was wondering if he mentions this Atreyu video. Wasn't disappointed. However it still ends with them switching places...
Chimaira did a video where we think Mark is the creeper, turns out the sexy lady is the killer.
"It should be illegal to have Ron Jeremy around so many young people."
That comment has aged like a fine wine.
You literally win "The Internet" of the Year award IMHO.
just looked up ron jeremy and uhh… oh my god
@@chikinonfrydai you fell in love right?
@@randerins of course, he’s the most perfect man i’ve ever seen
"Mom stop calling us screamo, I told you we're a post hardcore band" I laughed so hard since I used the same argument to defend some bands when I was younger
Now that you covered the generic music videos, I wouldn't mind hearing what you consider to be the best/most creative vids!
Also, in defense of some of these tropes, I think it's fine for bands just starting out with no budget, but I love when a video has "re-watch" value, and not just for hearing the song.
A separate one for videos that fit the song especially well and videos that are just really creative and well done would be great too.
I like how the video for Slipknot's "Snuff" fits the song, but it's not the best music video I've ever seen for instance 🤔
“Mom stop calling it screamo! I told you we’re a post-hardcore band!” 😂😂
You should do "WHAT KILLED MYSPACE?" The culture, how it got so big, and why it died so quick.
Brokencide killed MySpace
@joshrm obvious bait is obvious
As someone from Columbus Ohio that was in a metalcore band back around this time; I appreciate Finn recognizing how weird it is that Columbus was pumping out so many metalcore bands back then 😂
When I was a kid living on the other side of the world during this time, I thought Columbus must have been the coolest town ever and I legit wanted to move there as soon I was 18
Hard same OP, Cbus was really churning out good things, I mean shit, even freaking Dayton was lit lol
As someone who still lives in the area and is somewhat involved in the local scene I can say that now it's normal.... nobody's coming out of Columbus now😂😂
there is this endless joke about living in Ohio being shitty or something
there may be some corelation
I love the moment in the Waking The Demon video where the bullied kid said "It's wolfin' time!"
What a timeless classic
Note to self: use grassy rooftop in video
Don't forget the rain.
Be on that G R E E N T O P
Grassy rooftop of a grungy warehouse where a hot girl is tied to a chair while they barbecue in the rain... Now, how to fit a white room?
hey
@@seventhevii3188 That could be in a dream sequence or the like. Can include the actress if the rain isn't her speed.
As a Brit I was totally about to rage about the Your Demise being an example of trying to emulate the US culture, like we Brits don’t have house parties or something.......but then I remembered the dice clips and the fact they went to the trouble of getting US currency. So, yeah, fair point!
I was going to say, surely Brits like to party too haha
Cody Hillberry we definitely do, but dollars and dice are nowhere to be found!
@@MrAnimalmother1984 We've all seen Skins. We know how you party. Haha.
@@ohalistair haha great show! Of course not the american version 🤮
Used to love the era when your demise were about. Must of seen them about 10 times supporting other bands throughout the years kinda sold their soul I always thought once the first vocalist went
As a music video director, the grungy warehouse was usually the only location you could get for the shoestring budget.
Just had a war flashback of my mother losing her shit with me and breaking my 2nd bmth suicide season album bc I placed my stereo out of my window and wanted everyone to hear my angry cries. I definitely deserved that one.
😂😂
That's so gay
@@kanglongshankz3313 peepee poopoo 💓
I just bought a gold copy of suicide season on vinyl
@@kanglongshankz3313 Well good... She's a girl.
Mexican deathcore carne asada lmao. That’s the best
Here Comes The Kraken? 👀👍🏻
tssss, la escena core nacional estaba chidita. Nosotros en el norte teníamos a Lobia haciendo toquines en hoteles ylv, ahora que lo pienso, era nuestra versión del American-core esos días jaja
Thats it man my new band is Carnage Asada
Carne asada core*
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When you said " sometimes it makes sense, like BFMV because......"
My brain voiced over "because it always rains in Wales"
This is a spot on joke, truly.
Metalcore bands: Guys, I have a great idea... we have electronic instruments, right?
Other band members: Um... yeah?
Metalcore bands: Well, what if we shot our music video IN THE RAIN?!
Other band members: Hmmm... sounds electrifying!
Not like it was plugged in anyway.
@@drpibisback7680 I'm still not sure the gear could handle that much of water.
Not gonna lie, I really LOVE those "abandoned warehouse" music videos just for the setting alone. Always loved the aesthetics of abandoned places.
as a former label manager, I gotta expose the untold truth: those videos are constantly repeated because they're extremely cheap to make. The tour video in special is a classic record label gimmick for second singles. They put a lot of money on the first single's video to launch a band or album with a big impact, then surf on the wave with a cheap tour video made with footage they just captured basically for free during last touring season. I've put out tour videos for bands as big as Imagine Dragons (the 'Demons' video) back in the day, and it was always the second single.
I legitimately don't even mind this. It seems like a smart strategy and probably makes a good profit. I also enjoy some of those videos, and some are better than others.
I happen to really like the video for Playboys by Midland.
"Just a bunch of American pop punk kids having a backyard party at their house in the United States of America" damn dude i lol'd and now my gf knows I was looking at YT instead of working haha
It would be super interesting if you could make a "GOOD metalcore music videos" video. Music Videos that you think new bands should take inspiration.
Anything directed by drew russ is a good start
Big fan of Underoath's In Division video. Especially for it's time.
No kidding. A lot of those bands took of because of their videos. You'd think that would be a bigger deal now with social media being such a big deal.
I can remember all of the videos from the mid to late '00s from Bullet For My Valentine, Killswitch Engage, Avenged Sevenfold, and the like. It's what made 12 year old me go full all black everything metalhead. Scare my mom and got my dad to break out his old Judas Priest shirts.
@@mfcfbro I just had a look. Can't believe that album came out almost a decade ago. I feel old now.
@@commanderjarak You're telling me man. I still think of that as the "new stuff." Lol
3:16 - The first one I remember playing on a roof top was the Beatles.
They did grass scenes several times as well
And then u2 copied it
the beatles are metalcore?
Copies of copies of copies. And then we ask why scene died out.
It was for femboys 🤣
It died because it was shit music
Metalcore is more relevant than ever.
Tomas L not this style of it. It’s more architects, wage war, Erra, Polaris. That kind of metalcore
@@johnathanwilson1363 Well in all fairness, there's only so much you can do galloping on the open drop C string and playing on the 7th and 8th fret on the A string.
Feel like all these location tropes are there because it’s easy and cheap to do
Yes but on the other hand there's lots of super creative low-budget music videos out there
I was thinking the same thing. Plus, you can let loose and Transform those areas more easily. A lot of the tropes can be easily done in a warehouse. You can build a white room, pour in water (or blood), have a massive party or live crowd video, have girls tied to chairs, AND MORE.
3:14 what video is that? I recognize the locarion
Most expensive thing is finding a: camera, power source, & lighting.
It’s always the simple answers that elude us.
"nobody watches a grungey warehouse video and goes, fuck yeah that was so cool" i'm laughing because i absolutely do that. my favorite weekend thing is exploring abandoned warehouses, so these videos are a way for me to do that without leaving the house
Lol smh 🤦♂️ 😅
Finn making fun of rain videos
Me: Well the BFMV video tears don’t fall kind of made sense.
Finn 5 sec later: Unless like the BFMV video which that kind of made sense.
Fun fact: Ron Jeremy would actually appear in literally everything he was asked to do even if it lost him money. Apparently it turned into a genuine issue when he was asked to do cameos and commercials overseas.
Just to amuse himself? Does Ron Jeremy suffer from terrible OCD?
@@drpibisback7680 he suffers from likely incarceration for the rest of his life.
@@BridgesOnBikes I did find that when trying to research the appearing in everything.
Okay, now I understand why my American friends was acting weird when I gave them a kiss greeting them, thanks! :D
I’ve read that Europeans have American themed parties where they drink out of solo cups and shit like that. Maybe we should have European parties where we drink out of champagne flutes and kiss our friends 😂
you mean like new years eve? hahaha
Do you realise that Europe is super diverse and you cant use this scheme on every country ? Kissing on cheeks and drinking wine would be possible option probs in Southern parts of Europe (not the Balkan) , but try this kind of stuff in Central or Northern Europe and you become a weird guy pretty quickly. On the other hand , There are several thropes from C/E/N parts of Europe which would be super strange if you did them in Southern parts. And then there is whole UK which is completly different in party culture from the rest of the Mainland Europe. But in States the same beerpong college party will be held as in Washington as in Georgia so 🤷♂️
( Not sure about my last sentence tho. I think its just weird grammar structure that i used. Sorry english is not my first language. )
@@richardkinier you're good. your english is likely better than my ability to write whatever your mother tongue is! but yeah, for sure, we're making cultural generalizations. i agree that many things are more homogeneous in the states than in europe, regarding social norms etc. but i think that europeans, generally speaking, have more in common with each other than they do with americans, so the "lumping" together of european cultures makes sense (from an american perspective).
that said, there's a lot of diversity in the states too. regionally, socio-economically, in terms of race/ethnicity, etc. same sorta things you get everywhere. the one that comes to mind is work attire: on the west coast, things are much less formal than the east coast, and the south and the midwest are a mixed bag
@@gnarzikans As a brit I very firmly disagree that europeans have more in common with each other than the US. UK Culture is far more similar to US than mainland Europe and its not even close, honestly the only thing in those videos that supposedly "look american" that genuinely gave me america vibes where the white shirts with sleeves that are a different colour, practically every party I've been has had red solo cups there for beer pong and other games and in the clips shown there was practically nothing to make me think oh that must be america, Finn just knows bugger all about outside of the US
Mr. Morningstar some states are definitely they’re own country culturally like California and Texas but some states are similar regionally. The Midwest and South are examples of multistate regions that are similar to each other even as you cross state lines.
I love how Asking made this list at least 5 times lmao
It's almost as if they have no personality and just follow whatever is trending at the time..huh 🤔
🤦🏻♂ embarrassed fan here.
Well.....former fan. After two albums that changed.
I laughed so hard.
Asking Alexandria is this list
AA- "A Prophecy" for sure makes sense if BFMV does.
"I should've known the tides are getting higher
We can still survive
They think we're drowning
But our heads are still above the waves
Above the waves." js
Plot twist: the killer is her
But she is a sexy killer
The irony of that statement was the video was Lip Gloss and Black by Atreyu, and was more about the couple having a BDSM fetish... further irony... at the end of the video, the girl is tied in the chair while the guy walks out.
Atreyu Lip gloss and black
calling that dudes mini a pt cruiser made me chuckle. so good.
close enough lol
Oh my gosh
Mini Coopers are awesome
The PT stands for Pretty Trash Cruiser
I think another cool video idea would be discussing what could be called "Memecore." Sure parody bands have been around for decades, but I think there has been a massive increase in -core bands just writing songs about memes or humor. An analysis on this trend and what it means for the scene would be tight!
Also do you know if you can do a video on this current trend of altrock/emo/melodic hardcore? stuff that has been coming out over the last few years. Stuff like Awaken I Am, Makari, Selfish Things, Palisades, recent Being As An Ocean and a bunch of smaller bands on Dreambound. I haven't seen anyone talk about or try to give a genre label to this style.
Jeff the bassist be hooking it up though
It makes up for him always being late for practice.
Imagine location scouting just to not be able to hear yourself in the mix
Proud Jeff moment.
how about the trend that happened of having a random girl pose for the cover of each metalcore album
Suicide season vibes
as a band that shot a video in a dark warehouse...we approve this video
Montage tour videos always have a ‘third single off the album, run out of ideas’ vibe
Epitaph - *insert classic music vid here* - 12 years ago - *144p*
2:00 Mudvayne - Happy?
3:10 Limp Bizkit - Rollin'
5:18 Flaw - Payback
6:22 Godsmack - Straight Out of Line
7:19 Linkin Park - In The End
8:33 Mudvayne - Dig
BVB wearing BDSM gear was funny and awkward
Taking Back Sunday had Flava Flav.
They aren’t metalcore but that’s the first example of b-list celebs in a video I could think of.
Danko Jones had Elijah Wood
The Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up was probably the first ever 'plot twist' clip where the protagonist is actually a girl...I wonder how many bands were inspired by that or if it's just a coincidence? I don't really know but it's still my favourite film clip to this day. And no, you can't find it on TH-cam but if you run a search on Google video you should be able to view it.
Would love to see how you think we did with the whole "acting american" kinda thing since we're from Sweden. 🤣 We skated around town and threw a house party with a bbq (and yes, we had beer pong and red cups which for some reason are crazy expensive here in Sweden). If you wanna check it out the song is called Built to Last and my band is called Out of My Way. Reply to this comment with what you think in case you decide to watch it. Keep on making badass content 👌/A long time fan from Sweden
Were u that one swedish guy on the sywh comments/board?
Haha nice. You've got the red cups and the barbecue! What's the stick throwing game? I would say horseshoes would be a more normal American game. But who knows? Maybe it's played somewhere in the country.
@@foreverhobbes I have seen that yard game before, I dont remember what it's called though.
@@JayRodMiNi @hkfunla "Kubb"
Nice song. Reminds me most of MXPX. You pulled off the "American BBQ/hangout" better than most. As someone else pointed out, that stick game was the only head scratcher. Way back when it would be horseshoes, but now it would be cornhole.
Missing the tropes of UK bands that show them walking around a council estate/block of flats to show how 'hard' they are or the other trope I saw on Kerrang a lot of band playing in a dark room with a wall of lights/lit up tunnel behind them
This guy gets it. I was never cool at school so the Sorry You're Not A Winner video by Enter Shikari as well as the tv show Skins made think that's what all house parties were like
@@AlexGreat321 Think that video for sorry you're not a winner is permanently burnt into my mind, love that the other videos from that album also involve parties/odd private gigs too 😂😂
malevolence do that but in a way that's actually good and with a story
Oscar Manners in fairness Malevolence could probably knock 90% of American metal core bands out aswel 😂
When you mentioned A Skylit Drive, I had a total “holy shit I totally forgot they even existed and I’m now hit with the utmost nostalgia of my scene phase” moment lol. You mention so many bands that I totally forgot about but have so many memories from
“August burns red kicked off the trend of playing in a field”
Temple of the dog “am I a joke to you?”
another metalcore band who did it is one called I Killed the Prom Queen, not sure the song, but an Australian girl I met on myspace showed me them (they were also an AU band)
August Burns Red was definitely the best at it
But they were the first to rock sandals doing it!
Laughed more than a couple times at this one... great stuff, Finn!
Finn like this comment now
Underrated and needs the like from fin
holy frick it’s glenn frickin fricker
@@TheMrManDudeGuy oh frick
I was watching this at the party video part thinking, “I know you aren’t going to miss mentioning that one Xibalba song that everybody knows” and you nailed it. You’re so tapped into the culture and I love it. I’m so thankful to my buddy Chris for mentioning this channel to me.
"I'm angry this isn't on Spotify"
OKAY I LEGIT THOUGHT THAT WAS LYRICS ANNOTATION FOR A SECOND
When we graduated from Emo music and told our parents the music we were listening to now was screamo, that stuck with them and from then on everything we listened to was screamo. Didn't matter if it was post-hardcore, death metal or heavy metal etc. If there was screaming in it, our parents called it screamo.
Well, maybe u shouldnt have gotten into screamo
Nah my folks called my vinyls “self destructive noise”.
Limp Bizkit played on the roof of the World Trade Center in the "Rollin'" video back in 2001.
Limp Bizkit also had an early "playing to a girl tied to a chair" video with "Eat You Alive" back in 2003.
You left out my favorite trope: The movie/video game tie in.
Best examples:
KSE's End of Heartache (Resident Evil: Apocalypse). Atreyu's Her Portrait in Black (Underworld: Evolution),.Paramore's Decode (Twilight). A7X did multiple songs for Call of Duty with Call of the Dead (Black Ops). KSE''s My Obsession (God of War: Chains of Olympus). All that Remains' This Calling (Saw 3).
I also swear that Atreyu did a video for the 3rd Twilight film (Children of the Damned album, I think it was Wait for You) but it has evidently been scrubbed from the internet. It may have been a fan video, but I remember it coming out before the movie and that being the reason I stopped listening to the band (cause I was a badass Metalhead and Twilight was for scene girls). If anyone can find it, please link it.
Are you thinking of the song Atreyu did for Underworld Evolution?
I mean to be fair, if someone approached you and was like "Hey I know you're trying to make it big and get some exposure. Millions of people are going to see this thing and hear your song, if even 10% of them enjoy it that's still pretty significant" Of course you're going to do it. Plus A7X are pretty huge gamers and loved Call of Duty so why wouldn't they?
I wouldn't really say movie tie ins or Video games are a trope, some Video games need real music or benefit from it and even the worst of movies still use music from actual artists instead of their own scores..... but I do get where you're coming from. (I'm pretty sure
And Ice Nine Kills, The Silver Scream album. Horror movie album.
@@thetrashmanoooh I listed that song in my post. I just swear they did a video for Twilight as well. But like I said, it could of been a fan video.
@@sinswithin I wasn't criticizing A7X, I loved those songs and collabs. My buddies and I all got Call of the Dead and worked for hours to get the song to play. Great stuff.
“There’s never been anything cool about a band playing in a grungy warehouse or garage ever”. *see “One” by Metallica
Also "Laid to Rest" and by Lamb of God.
And 'be quiet and drive' by deftones.
What he meant was, "There's never been anything cool about a screamo band playing in a warehouse or garage ever".
INXS, - Don't Change.
You can't argue, even with the bad 80's fashion.
See, Smells Like Teen Spirit
Limp Bizkit playing on top of the WTC for their "Rollin" video started the rooftop trend....
Limp Bizkit "Eat You Alive" also did the girl in a tied up chair.
Lostprophets played on a carpark rooftop for Shinobi vs. Dragon Ninja which was released the same year
Almost forgot about that one. I would have thought the Beatles
Except Fred would kick all those soyboys asses
Live in LA; can confirm: there is a shortage of parking structure roof tops to film on
the rain trope was likely caused by the Goo Goo Dolls live video of "Iris"
"guys we'll be Iconic if we play in the rain like the Goo Goo Dolls. That video was legendary."
Eric Burgmeier to be fair, I think that video IS legendary 😂
Tom Delonge did it in Boxcar Racer's There Is and that was back in 2002
@@pumpkinspicetrashbag I totally agree
There is - Boxcar Racer did it in 02’
My least favorite trope that's guilty across all forms of metal is the we're best friends video where the band members are constantly being seen having a good time while it cuts back and forth between them being the best of friends and having a live concert with their fans all happy and everything and it usually contradicts whatever the hell the song is about.
Early examples of these ideas include:
Underoath - When the sun sleeps
Poison the well - Botchla
New Found Glory - Hit of miss
Atreyu - Ain't love grand
"I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed." LOL OMG Finn this video was so much fun. I get that it's supposed to be kinda meme-y and maybe poke the algorithm in all the sweet spots, but man I had fun watching this.
Also. there was ONE cool warehouse video. Judith by APC. According to the commentary on the DVD, David Fincher had to convince Maynard and Billy to do a performance video because they didn't originally want to do it. It's a classic for me, but I've never seen anybody do it quite the same way, cuz David Fincher man. lol
I would also offer In Flames - My Sweet Shadow. But the pyro might disqualify it from being a warehouse video.
Man when I was younger ALL I wanted to do was be on the road with band dudes. That was my biggest dream and aspiration. My teenage self still lives inside me but sadly there was never any way for me to make that happen.
You got off light
The only one of those girl tied to a chair videos that even kind makes sense is the Famous Last Words one. The whole album's about a crazy dude becoming obsessed with his neighbour and completely snapping. Probably could've found a better way to do it but it's a pretty decent album and at least the guy doing it is supposed to be the bad guy.
Next video could you do "What killed pornogrind?"?
Lana Rhoades retiring is what did it.
Old age
Xvideos
Ok, but seriously, since when was Parmore a metalcore band?
Lol fr
Lol fr
Lol fr
Well, in the video description he mentions both Metalcore AND Pop Punk bands.
Lol fr
Limp bizkit: Eat You Alive was the 1st video I saw where there was a girl on a chair.
Not metalcore but still
They've also done the rooftop and the grungy warehouse.
First I saw was a cradle of filth video
Impaled Nazarene - Cogito ergo sum
Did Limp Bizkit pioneer the "terrified girl tied to a chair" thing in the "Eat You Alive" video?
Yes, and it's absolutely hilarious in hindsight!
And the band playing on a rooftop too
One video I quite like is Motionless In White’s Thoughts And Prayers official video, the first part is chris - the vocalist - taking peoples hearts and drawing on their foreheads with blood, then it transitions toward the end of the song into that typical sort of rain but instead it’s blood. It’s also shot in a completely white room which gives off a cool vibe with the blood covering everything
Infant Annihalator’s “Decapitation Fornication” will always be one of my favorite music videos, with the drummer using twigs as sticks and rocks and leaves as a drum kit. It’s all so goofy and more importantly self aware. Almost as good as Immortal’s forest video.
Call of the Wintermoon? I love that video so damn much
Didn't they have one video of a baby being murdered?
Black metal bands filming videos be like: lets roam around in our robes in a forest near a castle
Metalcore bands filming videos be like: FIeLdS
Or the in the middle of the desert.
One of the biggest tropes is just a kid getting bullied.
Bloodline and Eclipse by Northlane lol. Still big today
I feel like of all rock bands, KoЯn started that trope, first with video for Clown, and then with one for Thoughtless. But I could be wrong.
"Cmon, give me the keys to the PT cruiser." LOL
Pierce the veil's king for a day still one of the best music videos of the scene
MY WHOLE TIME WATCHING THIS I WAS THINKING "SAY SOMETHING ABOUT RAIN VIDEOS" LOL. DIDNT MENTION CONFINED BY AS I LAY DYING THO. DISLIKE FOR THAT
This video could have only been improved by being filmed in a field, and well researched to include the stained glass romance video.
i genuinely don’t mind when bands do the warehouse/rooftop videos 😂 cuz if they opt to not have a dumb storyline included, then it just becomes about the band’s performance, and that’s usually pretty engaging to watch, especially if it’s directed decently.
I like your channel. Being from Columbus, now living in Cleveland, and being in bands in the 90's, I don't know how I missed the Metalcore movement. I guess it was because when I was in the scene, you had to have 1 or 2 rappers in your band that could kinda sing, solid state amps, and 6 Mr. Bungle like breaks in a song. Now I know why that girl was tied to that chair in videos I saw early in the morning before I went to work in the early to late 2000's.
Famous last words video was different though, in the sense that the video and the song was part of a whole ass story, a psychological horror concept album. Still holds up great
And one of the best albums I’ve heard hands down.
Agreed, I wouldn't lump Famous Last Words' video into that group
Yeah famous last words was the black parade burnt down.
Talks about the house party video, doesn't bring up fucking slipknot duality XD. Rip
Famous last words council of the dead was such a banger album and my fav album from 2014!
5:13 “Plot twist! The killer is her! *but she’s a sexy killer* 🤫😏” That made me laugh my ass off. This video is great finn!
I was dying laughing this whole video. My old band and I are guilty of several of these fouls haha. Love the videos, man!
What was your bsnd called,?
I am laughing my ass off at the house party with them greeting each other with kisses and drinking white wine 💀 💀 💀
That shit doesn't even happen in Europe, at least not in the countries I'm familiar with :D
@@loeffel999 that made it even funnier lol
"Give me my youth back!" I felt that. I havent gone out to be stupid with my friends in years...I'm a homeowner now 😭
Half my friends have "grown out of" being stupid....
I feel this. Hubby and I got a house a month ago. And now we got stuff to do lol
I’m literally crying I’m laughing so hard at the capture the crown part in the video. Please do more of these in specific genres.
Huge missed opportunity: Ameri-core. C'mon Finn where's the ad guy hiding.
sounds like some sort of pharmaceutical firm after several acquisitions
Yup.
When he started talking about the house party videos I was hoping he would bring up the “Sorry, you’re not a winner” video by Enter Shikari.. it’s one of my favorites and it’s pretty Iconic in my opinion.
"no worn down warehouse video can be interesting ever"
David Fincher's Judith video from A Perfect Circle?
okay intro already made me laugh
Petition to rename it to “Americore”.
Amerikorps
Underoaths music video for writing on the walls was dope,the dollhouse was an interesting concept.💯🤘🏻that’s what really got me into metalcore when I was a kid.
"Getting a slurpee, listening to the Vandals, and farting on each other" sums up my high school experience.
What about the “shake the screen” trope? Maybe that was more of a 90’s nu metal thing?
I was expecting As I Lay Dying and Sleeping With Sirens on the warehouse part, Blessthefall on the "were just a bunch of teens"
And,Suicide Silence-Disengage on the white room
Those two videos were cool though. Confined with the rain and Through Struggle for the warehouse video.