Fourth year finance student and im currently doing an internship at a corporate setting. I HATE IT! Once I graduate I will build the most successful development company focused on multi family. Also starting from scratch but Im 110% sure I will get there. Love your videos, true inspiration.
Honestly watched your video from start to end it hit a nerve and emotions too . I was broke , immigrated to USA at the age of 33 with 2 kids , wife left me and I was alone cleaning the streets in the night and doing construction in the day and looking after my kids with the help of a baby sitter . I then decided to cut hair and worked as a barber at the age of 37. And today i am 41 and I own 16 salons and 5 barber shop in the LA and San Diego areas . I want to get into property development too so you do online coaching . And thanks for your very moving yet inspirational video and god speed . Don
Wow! Thank you for your message. What an amazing story too! Well done for picking yourself up and making the most of life. We only have one life to live! Inspirational too. We don’t currently offer online training but something we are looking at. We like the personal touch we offer with face to face teaching. We have had a few people fly over from Singapore to attend our 3 day property development courses. Thanks
Literally the same steps I’m taking. Dropped out of college after my first year, and went to school to be a barber. Opening my first shop at 21, and after opening up a couple more I intend to get into property development. Money moves. 🤞🏽
You can’t go wrong with a barber ship just handle and spend and account for all your cash wisely with a proper accounting system . And never I mean never low ball your price to attract more clients . You know what your worth and clients will pay more if they know your worth it . God bless
Its 1.30am. I just watched the full video. Epic video from start to finish! I need to go to your seminars, i need to learn! I was thinking developing one house every 6 months is the goal, however you've just raised the bar! Im 18 and you've inspired me man🙏🙏
This is brilliant. I'm just turning 16 and I'm heavily interested in investment and personal finance, however I have come to realise that the way to make serious money is to Build and rent rather than Buy and rent!
Mate you are summing up my life in the first 10 min . I’m 25 my father has pancreatic cancer , they gave him 6 months 11 months ago. he has been a developer and has been training me the last 2 years I’m going out on my own next year. And all I want is freedom to do the things I want to do and never miss out. We have one life ! Go hard!
I stumbled across your video by pure chance, but watched the entire thing all the way through. Fantastic story and it gives me an extra bit of determination to follow my own buisness plan, which is eerily similar to yours. I dropped out of education before uni, worked in some awful soul destroying jobs knowing it wasn't for me, even my own father passing in 2012. Used a small family loan in 2013 to buy my first btl, and working up to property number 5. I am now in the process of securing a plot for build to rent of 14x three bed houses. taking the scary leap to the next level with no prior experience in building sites whatsoever. My skills are interior refurbishments not project management on that scale but your insight has put my mind at ease somewhat, knowing this model can work and be fruitful. Thanks very much for documenting your journey.
There's no such thing as by chance. You were meant to find it. Hope you enjoyed the video and your journey goes well.😊 I was intentional in my search of videos like this 😊 it's brilliant how the journey has worked out for him.
This is creepy, I'm now 27 and currently sat in my new home that I'm renovating (I'm literally covered in dust tearing the place apart haha), this property will be the first of what I plan to be a very large portfolio. I grew up wanting to be a police offer, i didn't go to uni like friends did, I worked in TGI Fridays rather than frankie & bennys and then travelled to Australia rather than NZ before coming home last year to start my property journey... i feel like I'm watching my future self. Great video thank you!
Thought this video was amazing! How did you manage construction? Did you get a construction company involved? You really deserve your success The odds were stacked up against you Hats of to you man!
Joshua Naismith thank you Joshua, My business partner has a construction company. He managed the build. We now have a project manager looking after all of our sites.
Great video!! I just started my first rental build and I am enjoying the process. I am now looking to start my own property development company as well. Thank you for sharing your video it really inspired me to continue to follow my dream.
Hi, how did you know that the land will be granted planning permission as you have purchased from auction. Secondly, when you refinanced to buy to let mortgage, the ltv was 75%, what happened with the remaining 25%, was you required to show a down payment or a deposit? Thanks
Thank you Lloyd for sharing your story. This video is from 2 years ago but the principles still apply. You gave me the info I needed to get started here in Canada and would love to learn more about your course if possible.
Hi Kenny, Thanks for the comment. Yes it is 2 years ago but here's an update for you... I've got the Ferrari... Not the 488 GTB but a 360 Modena (for now). We have 2 online courses which would be good to get the principles of development in Canada. Laws will be different but principle the same. www.whitebox.mykajabi.com
I seen your video. I’m happy for your success. I’m also sorry for your loss. I know you worked really hard in achieving your dream in real estate. Bravo.
I’ve just bought your book, a very close family member made me watch you on rich house poor house and then on here because you reminded them of me and you’ve motivated me to do what I want to do, I would love to speak to you personally at some point if possible for some advice. I also know what it’s like to lose a loved one and like yourself my goal is to make them proud so keep going.
Where was this example built, was it in the North because those types of margins would never work in the south of the country or at least its much harder to reach margins like that
Hi, thanks. This was built in Northampton. Midland. In the south you have an advantage as the end value is higher, which means your profit is higher. The method is the same.
Hi White Box Property Solutions, its great to watch your videos and inspiration. I am coming from investing/trading background and now I'm interest in property. Anyways was wondering if you were offering any online courses for property development?
Hi Ryan, we certainly do have online courses. We have 3 to choose from. Land Sourcing Academy, Project Management Masterclass and Commercial Conversion Accelerator. You can see the options here... whitebox.mykajabi.com
Thank You! You seem to be a very sincere person willing to talk about in great detail how you got started....I am very interested in sharing my business development ideas with you .... How do I get in touch? Again , thanks
Hi Mary. Thanks for the message. I am happy to talk and explain as it is not about my 'story' but more about how I started. Unfortunately it was the loss of my dad and grandad that kicked my mindset into doing something. You are happy to email me on info@whiteboxps.com Thanks
I have no work experience .My father do sub contracting and we have few workers and i really wanted to start my own . Ive been struggling on finding a job due to this pandemic. Do u think its possible for me to get a customer even without any background but i have a great workers with experience in construction. Thank you so much and Godbless u
You story is so relatable, my vision is to do developments to rent ever since I designed a house on The Sims and had it built, I need to get down to your workshop ASAP
Great genuine story 👍 Got a question that's bugging me. On your 1st deal, land was £157K and Dev loan of £600K. Built 8 houses. Paid back investors with interest and imagine also Dev loan of £600K which leaves you as you say about £370K profit. If you sold them how are you getting rental cash flow or you refinanced the properties and paid off the dev loan with refinance or? 🤔 Thanks 🙏
Thanks for the comment and question. We refinanced the development on a 10 year mortgage interest only for 75% loan to value against the GDV od £1,180,000. £890k mortgage paid back £810k of total spend with interest so £290k left in as equity and £80k surplus.
Great video! Found this very helpful as I’m about to exchange on my first project with a very similar deal structure. Will definitely be watching more, thanks!
Good to hear about your story in getting started out in business and property development. I'm looking at ways to start out at the moment but on a much smaller scale and with my own money.
Philip Stewart good luck with starting Philip and thanks for the comment. Don’t be afraid to take a few ‘calculated’ risks. Let us know if there is anything we can do to help you get started.
We teach people how to set up joint venture partners, whether is it a construction company or other credible partners. Attend property related network events as the people there are looking at similar ventures. They share a similar interest so start the conversations at those events.
When you re financed to pay them back your mortgage would have been minimum .750k which is around 30k a year if your interest only . Figures don’t make sense buddy for your cash flow
dutch881 for our first development the mortgage amount was £890k which was 4.5% interest only - (£40,050 a year expense) Our income was £6,415 a month (£76,980 a year) Net annual income - (£36,930) Plus the £370k total profit in the deal. The second site was £639k profit which was £1,009,000 total profit. Hope that answers your concern?
yeah, mortgage repayments should start the month after getting the money and they had to build on the land so construction of 8 houses should take months without cash flow. the numbers don't add up.
thanks for sharing... we have a similar back story. I will be in touch as I'm new to the game also after a life of travel through work and not knowing what I wanted to do, deaths in the family etc. I think I could learn alot from you.
Such a similar story and I am literally about to make a move on doing something similar with potential interested investors from overseas that were part of my business pre Covid. I lost that business but using other peoples' money (even with insurance) concerns me - push me over the edge will you! I wish I could speak with you further and wish I had seen this video earlier!
Amazing video very inspiring 👌 How do you estimate the cost of new builds? Is there any updated websites or apps that does the estimation before submitting a offer?
Great video. Really interesting and inspiring. We should never limit ourselves. It is amazing what one can do with the right positive attitude and a great reason WHY.
loved this video, i have started my first project but with my own money! this has given me the incentive to look at other ways. i would be very interested to learn more and how in 2019 with brexit and property increases this effects the first time developers
im touched by your video,, classic example of life and how we dont realise how it can hold us back being sucked in from day to day,, until such time we lose someone special and then the penny drops...
As soon as I hear something like ‘I got a deposit for a house from a family member’ & ‘I got a good job from my mum / have connections to building companies’ etc, I just switch off. This is good advice for solid middle class kids with access to money and who truly don’t struggle for finance, but pretty useless for those of us with low incomes and working class backgrounds. I wish you all well but sometimes you just realise that certain opportunities really are far out of your reach…
I really think you're missing the main points here and jumping to an assumption... I appreciate what you're saying but the reality was nothing like that. The job I had was no real help for me. My mum has never invested any money into our projects and they have been funded by investors... However, that's my story... What I can also tell you about is the hundreds of people who you describe this video is not for that we have helped get into property developments. We taught them how to find investors to invest into them and their projects. Everything is possible... You just have to work for it.
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions I appreciate the response - many content creators would ignore/delete a comment like mine. However I do want to highlight that I ‘get’ the point - ie feeling like you’re on the wrong path and wanting to change (it’s why I’m here). But I also don’t think it’s detrimental to acknowledge what your background/advantages are. In my case I’m in a low paid admin job in my mid-thirties and from a true working class family - this was never the plan but life happens and I’ve been stuck for over a decade. I’ve been researching and trying out other careers for years but nothing has worked yet. I always find my mind wondering back to property though so decided to try and make it work. I’m just highlighting that you make your journey sound somewhat easy and the whole ‘you just have to work hard’ mantra isn’t as simple as that, in fact it’s rather patronising to those of us who do work hard and want to change direction, but finances/situation slows or halts progress. I’m only saying what a lot of others would be thinking - I know people on here will think it’s a weakness and I’m going to get ‘you won’t get anywhere with that attitude’ responses, but, that’s fine.
Thanks for the comment. We owed £810,000 to investors and development finance. The property was worth £1,180,000. We got a 75% loan to value mortgage which was £890,000. The mortgage replaced the investors and development finance. If you join our facebook group we have lots of value there. Search Property Developers Secrets
Hi, great video. Very touching. I've always dreamed about being a property developer. Recently, my dad was diagnosed too. I'm so glad I found this video. You inspire me to push. Wishing you continued success.
Searched videos on how to become a property developer...yours was the first I clicked! My parent was diagnosed with a BT and given 7 months they passed after 8 months! Thank you for making this video and sharing your father's diagnosis! Life is precious and this video was sign that I must chase my dreams in property development! God bless you! Pain pushes until the vision pulls! You have a very bright future ahead of you!
This is an amazing story from the moment you began speaking! Very inspiring! I'm curious. Is there anything like 'hard money' available in the UK? If it didn't exist here in the US, investors would have only one option: to raise money by having private investors like you spoke about in the video.
hi Lloyd, your video was very inspiring and I admire the way you put growth over money as a target. I just subscribed! I am an architect by profession, seeking to realise high quality homes for everyone and help spread the knowledge about what makes a home healthy, ecologcial and energy-efficient. As an architect you work part time as an artist, part time as an engineer but suffer from financial illitercy. What is the best way to gain the necessary financial knowledge in order to communicate and collaborate better with developers/owners/investors? Any suggestions welcome!
I would love to purchase properties to rent out and get in to the property development game but I have read you need the capital in order to keep hold of one property whilst purchasing another. Don't most developers when starting out have to sell the property in order to get the funds for the second, third, fourth property etc?
Beave Thanks for the comment. This is a common misconception about property development. Most people believe you have to have a load of money ‘yourself’ to start. That’s not the case. We borrowed all the money from investors. I’d recommend you purchase my book about how we got started. Www.whiteboxps.com/book
Thank you for this. Planning on applying the same strategy here in RSA, Although it is a bit tough as there is no development financing. Starting off small from buying sectional titles and leasing them out, hopefully i will be a build to rent millionaire too.
Build to rent seems great Amazing videos Do you buy, develop and hold the property in personal name or limited company? From video I see the first property at James, u did personally
I am looking for the constructor who built your flats, how to contact you , where are your contact details, i need to build new houses 30 new houses, just need a builder.
Great video do you have a example of your investors pack you put together on first project to raise finance ? Would be good to see a example of what info you put together to get investors onboard 👍
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions would love to see examples of your more recent developments (pubs to flats/HMO's) and new build projects. Without being cheeky, is there anything you could email over? I'm just getting into commercial to resi deals. Have just bought my first pub conversion as a lease option, and I'm about to develop a large victorian family owned building into modern apartments with a loft conversion - keeping the commercial units on the bottom to lease out. Looking to actually find new deals this year though so would love to see the kind of investment proposal packs you show potential investors. My email is pavodb@gmail.com
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions it was an amazon purchase though, didn't realise you were doing it for free (minus shipping) haha. I take it there are some examples of investor funding packs in there then?
I will do a video on this as it comes up a lot. The mortgage we took out at the end pays off our development finance and investors. It is long term borrowing paying off short term borrowing.
Great motivational material mate. But your average bloke "not born into wealth" cannot financially afford to get out of school and then fly across the world for a year on a ski trip.
Thanks Adam. Your average bloke can do that as I worked as a pot wash and chef at Frankie and Benny's to afford the ticket, I then got a job in a supermarket and worked most of the time when I was in New Zealand... It can be done if you prioritise what you want. It certainly wasn't paid for without working.
Hi mate, what would be the solution if you don’t know anyone who owns a property developments company ? Would you have to pay more to get a company to build for you ?
You don't need to know anyone now. We didn't pay more because it was our building company. The company still needs to make money. We paid profit to the construction company as much as you would to a construction company. We show you how to find and work with potential construction companies.
Absolutely love this video! 17 years old and my dream is to become a property developer. Unfortunately I’m stuck! Have you got anything I can message you on so I can get a grasp of what I am doing. Great video
Inspiring video, I am currently 20 years old and in my second year of uni studying civil engineering. I have took a strong passion towards property development. Will my degree in anyway aid my journey, my regret is not studying property development earlier but I was unsure on which path I wanted to head down. Any advice would be amazing, thankyou.
Hi Tom, Thanks for the comment. Yes and No really... I didn't go to Uni to study but started property development and the education business. The degree will help you with the analysis side, although from what we have seen in the past, engineers seem to over analyse the deal and sometimes talk themselves out of starting it. The best advice I can give you is to keep watching our videos and read my book which is available on audible or via www.whiteboxps.com/book
Hello, I loved your video on how you spoke about buy and rent, honestly I would also love to work with your firm for experience, can you guide me on how to start real estate in UK or how can I get in touch with you, would definitely love to have a conversation
Yash Kumthekar hey. Thanks for the comment. The best place to start in the uk is understand how to find development sites. My Land Sourcing Academy is affordable and can help you start. It is a lot more in depth than some courses 10x the price. Find out more at whitebox.mykajabi.com/lsa
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions thank you so much, will look into it. Also are there any jobs in your firm or are there any jobs in general for real estate that I look into for experience and to raise some capital, I am completing my architectural degree next year from India
Would you consider featuring me in one of your videos, I'm a broke 20 year old in a full time job, I want to become an entrepreneur and have financial freedom. My promise to you is if you help me achieve that in a set time, I will quit my job on the spot. Hope you read this, love your channel!
Thanks for the comment. It is something I could be interested in. We do a change my life scheme where we give someone £20,000 of mentorship. It is not available until summer time though.
so the idea here is to have family friends with money to support your business plan... what is the idea if you don't have family friends who will support your ideas? At 20:19 you said, "we found investors to invest in our bridging loans." Well, there you go, easy peasy. So the idea here is, just go find some wealthy family friends and some investors... simple. If you sell vacuum cleaners they tell you to just go find family members who will take pity on you and buy their vacuums just before they split town... same thing. Steve Martin used to tell a stand up joke: How can you have a million dollars and not pay taxes? First, get a million dollars..." End of joke. Is this really your advice/business plan. Did I really spend 34 min. watching this? Notice every comment on here is someone with a dream who can't crystallize their lack of startup investment? Everyone has the same ? or is just sycophantic in their admiration but can't get beyond that. Why do all these videos just say "it's easy, just get access to someone else's money?" I already know that part... I don't need a tutorial to tell me to spend someone else's money. Wow.
Thanks for the comment. This was how we started our first deal but have done 206 property deals since so we certainly know how to find investors now. It is not as simple as going to find family friends with money. That's just how we did it at the time. We did it when we didn't have education to show us how so we had to learn ourselves. If you need some help and guidance please let me know.
Hi mate. Just listened to your video. Its piqued my interest. I'm 27 now, grew up in London and work as an electrician. Living in The Netherlands after meeting a Dutch girl travelling. I'm in a similar place now in terms of thinking what to do/where to go next and have always considered property development. I've got a network of people here who have money, I know different trades people and can do a fair bit myself. What are your thoughts on borrowing money from friends/family to get started? I'd probably start small with a house from auction in need of refurb and go from there.
M it’s pretty much how we started so I would recommend starting there. There are other ways to start now but it sounds like you are in a better position than I was when I first started.
I gather you are now on the next phase of your ambition as prpoerty developer. I am learning myself. Unlike most people here, I am an old woman so wish me luck!!
Fourth year finance student and im currently doing an internship at a corporate setting. I HATE IT! Once I graduate I will build the most successful development company focused on multi family. Also starting from scratch but Im 110% sure I will get there. Love your videos, true inspiration.
Hey man I know you will achieve your goals, great success!
Awesome! You will be successful with that mindset!
Stay positive you will get it keep that drive
To start getting financing don’t u need like two year tax returns showing enough income - to do that will u get a regular job first ?
@@zibtihaj3213 Yes you do but you can also have a JV partner who will be on title of properties and you can have a set bare trust agreement.
Honestly watched your video from start to end it hit a nerve and emotions too . I was broke , immigrated to USA at the age of 33 with 2 kids , wife left me and I was alone cleaning the streets in the night and doing construction in the day and looking after my kids with the help of a baby sitter . I then decided to cut hair and worked as a barber at the age of 37. And today i am 41 and I own 16 salons and 5 barber shop in the LA and San Diego areas . I want to get into property development too so you do online coaching . And thanks for your very moving yet inspirational video and god speed . Don
Wow! Thank you for your message. What an amazing story too! Well done for picking yourself up and making the most of life. We only have one life to live! Inspirational too. We don’t currently offer online training but something we are looking at. We like the personal touch we offer with face to face teaching. We have had a few people fly over from Singapore to attend our 3 day property development courses. Thanks
Wow! nice story!
Get the money B💰💰💰
Literally the same steps I’m taking. Dropped out of college after my first year, and went to school to be a barber. Opening my first shop at 21, and after opening up a couple more I intend to get into property development. Money moves. 🤞🏽
You can’t go wrong with a barber ship just handle and spend and account for all your cash wisely with a proper accounting system . And never I mean never low ball your price to attract more clients . You know what your worth and clients will pay more if they know your worth it . God bless
Its 1.30am. I just watched the full video. Epic video from start to finish!
I need to go to your seminars, i need to learn!
I was thinking developing one house every 6 months is the goal, however you've just raised the bar!
Im 18 and you've inspired me man🙏🙏
This is brilliant. I'm just turning 16 and I'm heavily interested in investment and personal finance, however I have come to realise that the way to make serious money is to Build and rent rather than Buy and rent!
What a great age to start learning about property! Well done!
Mate you are summing up my life in the first 10 min . I’m 25 my father has pancreatic cancer , they gave him 6 months 11 months ago. he has been a developer and has been training me the last 2 years I’m going out on my own next year. And all I want is freedom to do the things I want to do and never miss out. We have one life ! Go hard!
Thank you for your comment Nicky. Go and live your dream! You deserve to! Well done and best wishes for your dad.
Hope your Dad successfuly gave you the solid platform for your own property development. God Bless.
Your dad and grandad will be very proud of you man 👍
Site Banter thank you very much! They would indeed. 👍🏻
I totally relate to this story. I struggled with finding my purpose for a long time.
Im glad you have related to this as many do. If we can help you with your future, please let us know.
I was in the same boat!
I stumbled across your video by pure chance, but watched the entire thing all the way through. Fantastic story and it gives me an extra bit of determination to follow my own buisness plan, which is eerily similar to yours. I dropped out of education before uni, worked in some awful soul destroying jobs knowing it wasn't for me, even my own father passing in 2012. Used a small family loan in 2013 to buy my first btl, and working up to property number 5. I am now in the process of securing a plot for build to rent of 14x three bed houses. taking the scary leap to the next level with no prior experience in building sites whatsoever. My skills are interior refurbishments not project management on that scale but your insight has put my mind at ease somewhat, knowing this model can work and be fruitful. Thanks very much for documenting your journey.
There's no such thing as by chance. You were meant to find it. Hope you enjoyed the video and your journey goes well.😊 I was intentional in my search of videos like this 😊 it's brilliant how the journey has worked out for him.
This is creepy, I'm now 27 and currently sat in my new home that I'm renovating (I'm literally covered in dust tearing the place apart haha), this property will be the first of what I plan to be a very large portfolio. I grew up wanting to be a police offer, i didn't go to uni like friends did, I worked in TGI Fridays rather than frankie & bennys and then travelled to Australia rather than NZ before coming home last year to start my property journey... i feel like I'm watching my future self. Great video thank you!
James Byrne Awesome! Happy to help you in our footsteps.
Hey partner ;)
Best wishes to you, James. I gather you are now on your second phase of your journey? God Bless.
Thought this video was amazing!
How did you manage construction?
Did you get a construction company involved?
You really deserve your success
The odds were stacked up against you
Hats of to you man!
Joshua Naismith thank you Joshua,
My business partner has a construction company. He managed the build. We now have a project manager looking after all of our sites.
Great video!! I just started my first rental build and I am enjoying the process. I am now looking to start my own property development company as well. Thank you for sharing your video it really inspired me to continue to follow my dream.
Thank you. Good luck with your project. Please let us know if we can help you in any way with your property development business.
Hi, how did you know that the land will be granted planning permission as you have purchased from auction. Secondly, when you refinanced to buy to let mortgage, the ltv was 75%, what happened with the remaining 25%, was you required to show a down payment or a deposit? Thanks
Thank you Lloyd for sharing your story. This video is from 2 years ago but the principles still apply. You gave me the info I needed to get started here in Canada and would love to learn more about your course if possible.
Hi Kenny,
Thanks for the comment. Yes it is 2 years ago but here's an update for you... I've got the Ferrari... Not the 488 GTB but a 360 Modena (for now).
We have 2 online courses which would be good to get the principles of development in Canada. Laws will be different but principle the same.
www.whitebox.mykajabi.com
This video should be shown to kids at college/school. Absolutely class… fair play to you.
I seen your video. I’m happy for your success. I’m also sorry for your loss. I know you worked really hard in achieving your dream in real estate. Bravo.
Thank you John
I am slightly fed up of not making my dream life happen, Thank you for this video, you truly inspired me to make a change
You can do it! Keep focused and take one step at a time to achieve your dream
How did you manage the construction process? Did you start a construction company?
McNoodles We contracted a construction company. Andi owned a construction company but we still paid them the same as any contracted company.
I’ve just bought your book, a very close family member made me watch you on rich house poor house and then on here because you reminded them of me and you’ve motivated me to do what I want to do, I would love to speak to you personally at some point if possible for some advice. I also know what it’s like to lose a loved one and like yourself my goal is to make them proud so keep going.
Where was this example built, was it in the North because those types of margins would never work in the south of the country or at least its much harder to reach margins like that
Hi, thanks. This was built in Northampton. Midland. In the south you have an advantage as the end value is higher, which means your profit is higher. The method is the same.
Hi White Box Property Solutions, its great to watch your videos and inspiration. I am coming from investing/trading background and now I'm interest in property. Anyways was wondering if you were offering any online courses for property development?
Hi Ryan, we certainly do have online courses. We have 3 to choose from. Land Sourcing Academy, Project Management Masterclass and Commercial Conversion Accelerator. You can see the options here... whitebox.mykajabi.com
Thank you so much you have motivate me
Thank You! You seem to be a very sincere person willing to talk about in great detail how you got started....I am very interested in sharing my business development ideas with you ....
How do I get in touch? Again , thanks
Hi Mary. Thanks for the message. I am happy to talk and explain as it is not about my 'story' but more about how I started. Unfortunately it was the loss of my dad and grandad that kicked my mindset into doing something. You are happy to email me on info@whiteboxps.com Thanks
transforming insights this has always be my dream and im to ready embark on this journey of coming a great property developer in my country
I have no work experience .My father do sub contracting and we have few workers and i really wanted to start my own . Ive been struggling on finding a job due to this pandemic. Do u think its possible for me to get a customer even without any background but i have a great workers with experience in construction. Thank you so much and Godbless u
You story is so relatable, my vision is to do developments to rent ever since I designed a house on The Sims and had it built, I need to get down to your workshop ASAP
Just finished watching, thanks lloyd for the link! Very motivational. Definitely something i want to look into. Fingers crossed 🤞🏼 thanks alot!
Great genuine story 👍
Got a question that's bugging me.
On your 1st deal, land was £157K and Dev loan of £600K. Built 8 houses.
Paid back investors with interest and imagine also Dev loan of £600K which leaves you as you say about £370K profit.
If you sold them how are you getting rental cash flow or you refinanced the properties and paid off the dev loan with refinance or? 🤔
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for the comment and question. We refinanced the development on a 10 year mortgage interest only for 75% loan to value against the GDV od £1,180,000. £890k mortgage paid back £810k of total spend with interest so £290k left in as equity and £80k surplus.
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions Thanks for your crystal clear reply. I now see said the blind man 💫🙂🙏
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions where did you get the other 25% of the mortgage loan? Thanks
Great video , see you at the top bro 🙌🏼
Great video! Found this very helpful as I’m about to exchange on my first project with a very similar deal structure. Will definitely be watching more, thanks!
Good to hear about your story in getting started out in business and property development. I'm looking at ways to start out at the moment but on a much smaller scale and with my own money.
Philip Stewart good luck with starting Philip and thanks for the comment. Don’t be afraid to take a few ‘calculated’ risks. Let us know if there is anything we can do to help you get started.
Without Andy’s construction company, how would you recommend starters to develop properties from scratch at the lowest cost?
We teach people how to set up joint venture partners, whether is it a construction company or other credible partners. Attend property related network events as the people there are looking at similar ventures. They share a similar interest so start the conversations at those events.
White Box Property Solutions where do you find these events?
When you re financed to pay them back your mortgage would have been minimum .750k which is around 30k a year if your interest only . Figures don’t make sense buddy for your cash flow
dutch881 for our first development the mortgage amount was £890k which was 4.5% interest only - (£40,050 a year expense)
Our income was £6,415 a month (£76,980 a year)
Net annual income - (£36,930)
Plus the £370k total profit in the deal.
The second site was £639k profit which was £1,009,000 total profit.
Hope that answers your concern?
yeah, mortgage repayments should start the month after getting the money and they had to build on the land so construction of 8 houses should take months without cash flow. the numbers don't add up.
I 10000000000000% agree with you live the life you dream about life is too short.
Thank you! You have to live your life and create memories!
thanks for sharing... we have a similar back story. I will be in touch as I'm new to the game also after a life of travel through work and not knowing what I wanted to do, deaths in the family etc. I think I could learn alot from you.
Hi how did you look for alone and still end up owning your property?
This has been so well explained 👏 thank you for sharing your journey.
Thank you for watching
Inspiring stuff man. Thanks for sharing.
Great success story, cheers to your continued success!
Quite educational and motivating. Thanks
Such a similar story and I am literally about to make a move on doing something similar with potential interested investors from overseas that were part of my business pre Covid. I lost that business but using other peoples' money (even with insurance) concerns me - push me over the edge will you! I wish I could speak with you further and wish I had seen this video earlier!
Amazing video very inspiring 👌
How do you estimate the cost of new builds?
Is there any updated websites or apps that does the estimation before submitting a offer?
Mash MIah Thanks for the comment. yes we have invested into MyPDA.co.uk try it out it’s free.
Great video. Really interesting and inspiring. We should never limit ourselves. It is amazing what one can do with the right positive attitude and a great reason WHY.
Great insight! How did get on applying and being approved for dev finance? Was it as a new ltd company or an existing company?
loved this video, i have started my first project but with my own money! this has given me the incentive to look at other ways. i would be very interested to learn more and how in 2019 with brexit and property increases this effects the first time developers
Travel-sun-sand with brexit there is opportunity. Prices come down and land becomes cheaper. Now is a good time to start negotiating on sites.
many thanks, i have a lot of questions and little time, but the video was a good start.thank you.@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions
im touched by your video,, classic example of life and how we dont realise how it can hold us back being sucked in from day to day,, until such time we lose someone special and then the penny drops...
As soon as I hear something like ‘I got a deposit for a house from a family member’ & ‘I got a good job from my mum / have connections to building companies’ etc, I just switch off. This is good advice for solid middle class kids with access to money and who truly don’t struggle for finance, but pretty useless for those of us with low incomes and working class backgrounds. I wish you all well but sometimes you just realise that certain opportunities really are far out of your reach…
I really think you're missing the main points here and jumping to an assumption... I appreciate what you're saying but the reality was nothing like that. The job I had was no real help for me. My mum has never invested any money into our projects and they have been funded by investors... However, that's my story... What I can also tell you about is the hundreds of people who you describe this video is not for that we have helped get into property developments. We taught them how to find investors to invest into them and their projects. Everything is possible... You just have to work for it.
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions I appreciate the response - many content creators would ignore/delete a comment like mine. However I do want to highlight that I ‘get’ the point - ie feeling like you’re on the wrong path and wanting to change (it’s why I’m here). But I also don’t think it’s detrimental to acknowledge what your background/advantages are. In my case I’m in a low paid admin job in my mid-thirties and from a true working class family - this was never the plan but life happens and I’ve been stuck for over a decade. I’ve been researching and trying out other careers for years but nothing has worked yet. I always find my mind wondering back to property though so decided to try and make it work. I’m just highlighting that you make your journey sound somewhat easy and the whole ‘you just have to work hard’ mantra isn’t as simple as that, in fact it’s rather patronising to those of us who do work hard and want to change direction, but finances/situation slows or halts progress. I’m only saying what a lot of others would be thinking - I know people on here will think it’s a weakness and I’m going to get ‘you won’t get anywhere with that attitude’ responses, but, that’s fine.
Your absolutely amazing! What a video, well done brother!
Hi! Wondering just how you keep track of the payments of the clients? Any software or CRM you’d recommend?
A business that specialises in managing rental properties for business's would normally take care of that.
Great video mate, really inspiring. Keep at it, and don’t worry about the haters 👍
Thanks Ady
How did you find investors when you was granted a bridging loan?
Great vid, who do you use for development finance?
Flight Scanner Nigeria at the time we used funding circle but they don’t do development finance now. We use a broker to get the best finance now
If you’re keeping the properties to rent how do you pay back the money borrowed for land acquisition and construction costs?
Thanks for the comment. We owed £810,000 to investors and development finance. The property was worth £1,180,000. We got a 75% loan to value mortgage which was £890,000. The mortgage replaced the investors and development finance. If you join our facebook group we have lots of value there. Search Property Developers Secrets
Hi, great video. Very touching. I've always dreamed about being a property developer. Recently, my dad was diagnosed too. I'm so glad I found this video. You inspire me to push. Wishing you continued success.
Thank you and sorry to hear about your dad too.
Searched videos on how to become a property developer...yours was the first I clicked!
My parent was diagnosed with a BT and given 7 months they passed after 8 months!
Thank you for making this video and sharing your father's diagnosis!
Life is precious and this video was sign that I must chase my dreams in property development!
God bless you! Pain pushes until the vision pulls! You have a very bright future ahead of you!
Awesome motivation. I guess I need your guide to build my business in Ghana
How’s it going? Do you take investors ?
@@Drockyeaboi12 really difficult around here
This is an amazing story from the moment you began speaking! Very inspiring! I'm curious. Is there anything like 'hard money' available in the UK? If it didn't exist here in the US, investors would have only one option: to raise money by having private investors like you spoke about in the video.
What a history. Congratulation guys, this was truly motivational.
Thank you.
hi Lloyd, your video was very inspiring and I admire the way you put growth over money as a target. I just subscribed!
I am an architect by profession, seeking to realise high quality homes for everyone and help spread the knowledge about what makes a home healthy, ecologcial and energy-efficient.
As an architect you work part time as an artist, part time as an engineer but suffer from financial illitercy. What is the best way to gain the necessary financial knowledge in order to communicate and collaborate better with developers/owners/investors?
Any suggestions welcome!
How much do you give your investors?
Great video .. Loved it man
Thank you
I love your quote "I didn't have a quid to my name"!
Well done anyway.
Thank you...
yer love it! did you make it up on the spot?
I would love to purchase properties to rent out and get in to the property development game but I have read you need the capital in order to keep hold of one property whilst purchasing another. Don't most developers when starting out have to sell the property in order to get the funds for the second, third, fourth property etc?
Beave Thanks for the comment. This is a common misconception about property development. Most people believe you have to have a load of money ‘yourself’ to start. That’s not the case. We borrowed all the money from investors.
I’d recommend you purchase my book about how we got started. Www.whiteboxps.com/book
Best video I have seen in ages.
Very inspiring video, great work.
Sam Bestard thank you Sam.
How do you find your investors?
We keep showing people what we are doing and how we do it. Attend events that potential investors attend.
Inspiring story, but it's just a promo video with very little useful information, hence all the questions in the comments.
Would love to connect with you at some-point, thanks for sharing, can relate with your personal experience and wanted with you.
Hi.
Please email me at info@whiteboxps.com
Good video!
Do you build only single lets then ?
Also how do you know what to build on the land when you buy it?
We use a planning consultant to determine how many houses we can get on the land based on the local plan per council
Great video thank you
You develop land like a subdivision then instead of selling, rent it? Where can i find that project you did? I wanna do that too
This was in Northampton. We build and then rent the properties. No title splitting. Just 1 mortgage on 8 houses.
Thank you for this. Planning on applying the same strategy here in RSA, Although it is a bit tough as there is no development financing. Starting off small from buying sectional titles and leasing them out, hopefully i will be a build to rent millionaire too.
Wow I can relate so much to you
Build to rent seems great
Amazing videos
Do you buy, develop and hold the property in personal name or limited company?
From video I see the first property at James, u did personally
Thanks. We held on to them personally at the start but what we advise now is to buy in a limited company.
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions is there a email to contact
info@whiteboxps.com
How do investors that invest with you get their return?
Investors get a fixed return at the end of the development the mortgage is enough to pay the investment back plus the interest accrued.
Do you have a video that explains this concept?
@@kushaalc119 No but we can create one...
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions I’m from New Zealand and it would be awesome to understand how it works
This is both motivational, inspiring and informative. Thank you very much for sharing your life's story too.
You’re welcome 👍🏻 Thank you for watching
What a testimony, that start sounded like a nightmare. Glad you got your feet on the ground was inspiring. :)
Jed Knight thank you Jed... glad to be inspiring, that’s what I wanted to be
Damn i can relate to him so much!!!
You are awesome mate!
Thank you. I'm here to help and inspire as much as possible
I am looking for the constructor who built your flats, how to contact you , where are your contact details, i need to build new houses 30 new houses, just need a builder.
We are the building company. Where is the project?
How do u take the profit out of the project?
Great video do you have a example of your investors pack you put together on first project to raise finance ? Would be good to see a example of what info you put together to get investors onboard 👍
Not for the first site but I have for sites we've done since. Thanks
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions would love to see examples of your more recent developments (pubs to flats/HMO's) and new build projects. Without being cheeky, is there anything you could email over? I'm just getting into commercial to resi deals. Have just bought my first pub conversion as a lease option, and I'm about to develop a large victorian family owned building into modern apartments with a loft conversion - keeping the commercial units on the bottom to lease out. Looking to actually find new deals this year though so would love to see the kind of investment proposal packs you show potential investors. My email is pavodb@gmail.com
Emilio Paiva de Brito feel free to grab a copy of my book for free on our website whiteboxps.com
White Box Property Solutions arrived in the post yesterday haha, haven’t gotten round to reading it yet. Its on my bedside table right now
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions it was an amazon purchase though, didn't realise you were doing it for free (minus shipping) haha. I take it there are some examples of investor funding packs in there then?
I salute you sir... I am a construction worker/sometimes I contract some houses here in the Philippines in almost 11years...
What sort of interest rate do you pay for development loan, compared to standard BTL mortgage? Thanks. God Bless.
We pay around 6-8% per year for development finance. For commercial mortgages at the end it is about 4-5%
Wait so did you sell the first property? Im a bit confused. Where did you get the funds to pay everyone back ?
I will do a video on this as it comes up a lot. The mortgage we took out at the end pays off our development finance and investors. It is long term borrowing paying off short term borrowing.
Thanks so much for this video. I just happened to see it at the right time in my life. How do I get in touch with you Please?
Jesse Azebiik Anak Hi. Thanks for watching, please email info@whiteboxps.com
How do u return the money , capital plus interest, to investors without selling the peoperty(s)?
Cash out refi 1031
Great motivational material mate. But your average bloke "not born into wealth" cannot financially afford to get out of school and then fly across the world for a year on a ski trip.
Thanks Adam. Your average bloke can do that as I worked as a pot wash and chef at Frankie and Benny's to afford the ticket, I then got a job in a supermarket and worked most of the time when I was in New Zealand... It can be done if you prioritise what you want. It certainly wasn't paid for without working.
Hi mate, what would be the solution if you don’t know anyone who owns a property developments company ? Would you have to pay more to get a company to build for you ?
You don't need to know anyone now. We didn't pay more because it was our building company. The company still needs to make money. We paid profit to the construction company as much as you would to a construction company. We show you how to find and work with potential construction companies.
Keep it up mate
Also I was wondering how you constantly had investors
We don't always rely on the same investors. Continue to show people what you do.
Absolutely love this video! 17 years old and my dream is to become a property developer. Unfortunately I’m stuck! Have you got anything I can message you on so I can get a grasp of what I am doing. Great video
Have you watched any of Kris krohn's videos. The story of his first house purchase is inspirational, and he helps many people.
Email me I can help you get your feet into the door of real estate investing joshuamauricewooten89@gmail.com
Thanks for the comment. Please email me on info@whiteboxps.com - We can help you
Inspiring video, I am currently 20 years old and in my second year of uni studying civil engineering. I have took a strong passion towards property development. Will my degree in anyway aid my journey, my regret is not studying property development earlier but I was unsure on which path I wanted to head down. Any advice would be amazing, thankyou.
Hi Tom, Thanks for the comment. Yes and No really... I didn't go to Uni to study but started property development and the education business. The degree will help you with the analysis side, although from what we have seen in the past, engineers seem to over analyse the deal and sometimes talk themselves out of starting it. The best advice I can give you is to keep watching our videos and read my book which is available on audible or via www.whiteboxps.com/book
White Box Property Solutions thankyou for the reply 👍
Not a problem Tom 🍾🥂
Hello, I loved your video on how you spoke about buy and rent, honestly I would also love to work with your firm for experience, can you guide me on how to start real estate in UK or how can I get in touch with you, would definitely love to have a conversation
Yash Kumthekar hey. Thanks for the comment. The best place to start in the uk is understand how to find development sites. My Land Sourcing Academy is affordable and can help you start. It is a lot more in depth than some courses 10x the price. Find out more at whitebox.mykajabi.com/lsa
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions thank you so much, will look into it. Also are there any jobs in your firm or are there any jobs in general for real estate that I look into for experience and to raise some capital, I am completing my architectural degree next year from India
thank you
Great video indeed
Would you consider featuring me in one of your videos, I'm a broke 20 year old in a full time job, I want to become an entrepreneur and have financial freedom. My promise to you is if you help me achieve that in a set time, I will quit my job on the spot.
Hope you read this, love your channel!
Thanks for the comment. It is something I could be interested in. We do a change my life scheme where we give someone £20,000 of mentorship. It is not available until summer time though.
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions I would greet that with open arms given the chance or any help of yours for that matter.
Is there a way to develop 4 plex using fha loan?
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great work guys!
Thank you
so the idea here is to have family friends with money to support your business plan... what is the idea if you don't have family friends who will support your ideas? At 20:19 you said, "we found investors to invest in our bridging loans." Well, there you go, easy peasy. So the idea here is, just go find some wealthy family friends and some investors... simple. If you sell vacuum cleaners they tell you to just go find family members who will take pity on you and buy their vacuums just before they split town... same thing. Steve Martin used to tell a stand up joke: How can you have a million dollars and not pay taxes? First, get a million dollars..." End of joke. Is this really your advice/business plan. Did I really spend 34 min. watching this? Notice every comment on here is someone with a dream who can't crystallize their lack of startup investment? Everyone has the same ? or is just sycophantic in their admiration but can't get beyond that. Why do all these videos just say "it's easy, just get access to someone else's money?" I already know that part... I don't need a tutorial to tell me to spend someone else's money. Wow.
Thanks for the comment. This was how we started our first deal but have done 206 property deals since so we certainly know how to find investors now. It is not as simple as going to find family friends with money. That's just how we did it at the time. We did it when we didn't have education to show us how so we had to learn ourselves. If you need some help and guidance please let me know.
Can't wait to see you beat Simon Wilson's subscription :)
Sanjay Jadhav don’t tell Simon Wilson that ;)
Hi mate. Just listened to your video. Its piqued my interest. I'm 27 now, grew up in London and work as an electrician. Living in The Netherlands after meeting a Dutch girl travelling. I'm in a similar place now in terms of thinking what to do/where to go next and have always considered property development. I've got a network of people here who have money, I know different trades people and can do a fair bit myself. What are your thoughts on borrowing money from friends/family to get started? I'd probably start small with a house from auction in need of refurb and go from there.
M it’s pretty much how we started so I would recommend starting there. There are other ways to start now but it sounds like you are in a better position than I was when I first started.
@@WhiteBoxPropertySolutions Thanks for the response mate. Wheres the best place I can more advice and guidance from you guys then?
M you could download my audiobook? bit.ly/pdaudiobook
I gather you are now on the next phase of your ambition as prpoerty developer.
I am learning myself. Unlike most people here, I am an old woman so wish me luck!!