00:00 Intro 00:57 Who's the person passed off as Doc Holliday in photos? 03:14 Why are Earps so prolific in Western lore and where did it start? 07:47 What was the whisk(e)y of choice for Earp and the West at the time? 09:11 During the fight at the OK Corral, what was the calibre of the shotgun used? 11:51 What do you think of the Tombstone Rifle and its marketing? 15:09 What is a tidbit about the gunfight and the parties involved that pop culture has got correct? 17:03 After the Vendetta Ride, what became of the charges that arose from it? 22:02 Long-barreled Colt .45 "Buntline Special" 23:12 Fitzsimmons vs Sharkey boxing match 27:48 Outro
To synthesize a few details: It seems quite ironic to me that the idolatry of Wyatt Earp is focused largely around worshipping a monied city-slicker who used excessive force as a lawman to tyrannically enforce unjust and over-reaching edicts... Even though most of America (or rural America at least) would probably find much more common cause with the Cowboys, and are even marketed to as though they are a Cowboy supporter, "Riding into town to exact justice upon the murderer Wyatt Earp." Excellent video as always - keep shining the light on lesser-known details from history!
I really like the idea of focused Q&As. This was an interesting dive into a historical figure and if you choose to do more focused Q&As in the future it will make it easier for us to go back and revisit that info again vs the typical free-for-all type.
Thanks, Karl, for clarifying, correcting inaccuracies, and dispelling broadly accepted mythology regarding the life and times of Wyatt Earp. There are a great deal of historical inaccuracies worldwide that could stand to be corrected, and most likely will never be.
Tombstone is one of my very favourite places to visit in the USA. The mythology and history make the story of the "difficulty" fascinating. My other favourite is The Little Bighorn battlefield, also because there is so much myth and legend built up around the actual facts.
I much prefer the historical, focused Q&A and your history content in general. The brutality and modern firearm tests are fun and well done, but there are so few folks doing good history of the American West that I feel these are a great service to the community as a whole. Thanks for keeping In Range alive!
The legendary cowboys who tamed the west with their 9mm lever gun lol Man they even hired Sam Elliot to narrate it. Went all out to make a total meme commercial. Still chuckling after seeing it
@unclejohnbulleit2671 it's probably meant as a ca state special. A 9mm tacticool carbine that isn't a semi auto. Too bad it's hideous. A 9mm 1873 winchester would be fun.
Excellent video on the real Wyatt Earp. Water's "the Earp Brothers of Tombstone" was one of the first accurate accounts of the 'Old West' I ever read. I very much enjoy and appreciate this type of content. It's why I started supporting you several years ago. Keep it up!
I think there's a bit of nuance that gets missed when saying the gun used by Doc Holliday was just a "10 gauge". In the modern era we load our guns WAY heavier than the late Victorians really would have, and at this time a gun like this more than likely would have had 2-5/8" chambers loaded with between 1 ounce to 1-1/4 ounces of shot. In reality a 10 gauge cartridge of the 1880s wasn't really loaded all that differently than a 12 gauge is today, whereas the 12 gauge of the day would have been loaded closer to a modern day 20 gauge or 28 gauge. Funnily enough in the 1898 book "Hitting vs Missing with the Shotgun" by S.T. Hammond he recommends 5/8 ounce charges as being ideal for the 12 gauge, which is lighter than a lot of 3" 410s are loaded with these days.
This was an awesome Q&A! Loved it, learned a lot of stuff I never knew. Thanks for the switch up! So, when are you doing a Tombstone Brutality? You know you want to!
I didn't find Tombstone to be a very good movie no matter how much I like Kurt Russell, but I DO find this video to be very good. What a well informed and level-headed approach to correcting myths and simply laying out facts. I never knew enough about even the fictional Earp to be taken by his fictional personage and to be corrected from, but these were still things I needed and appreciate to know, so thanks for that.
Awesome video. I would love to see some more on the charleville indian trade gun I thought that video was very interesting and the gun itself was beautiful in it own way. Love your videos karl.
Awesome job Sir. I enjoy videos like this very much. I'm a western history person to say the least. Have also been to hole-in-the-wall near Kaycee Wyoming years ago. Please do more of these if you see fit. Thank you
This was great! I learned more about one of my favorite times in history than I ever have. I went to Tombstone, AZ in 2019 and was disappointed to see what a tourist trap it had become. They were even selling “replica wanted posters” of Wyatt and Doc, but the portraits on them were of Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer.
Thanks for explaining the actual common definition of "cowboy" or "cow-boy" in 19th century America. Its use was more closely similar to the British English use of the word. "Cowboys" would normally refer to themselves as "ranch hands" or "drovers"....
My teen years were spent in the area. I even have been in the mines. I wonder though. There was Tombstone, but at the time what did Bisbee, Fort Huachuca, and other towns look like around this period.
Loved this q&a, watched a ton of westerns with my grandma and always wondered what was historically true and what was Hollywood. Also sweet hammered side by side been wanting one forever
Near San Francisco, you can visit Wyatt Earp marker located in Hills of Eternity Memorial Park, a Jewish cemetery in Colma, California. Many other early California graves / monuments are located in the vicinity. The bodies and markers were all relocated to this area from earlier cemeteries so as to free up land further up peninsula. Definitely worth a visit! PS - San Francisco outlawed interments within city limits in 1900, then evicted all existing cemeteries in 1912.
the doc holiday picture reveal just melted my mind, it's also all over Glenwood Springs, where his grave is. and i could have sworn it was in a biography i read about him made by one of his descendants.
I almost expected his most accurate portrayal to be the episode of the original Star Trek show where the crew are the Clantons and they have to fight the villanous Earps...
Hey Karl, could you cover Porter Rockwell? He was actually quite famous during his day and doesn't get enough credit for his prolific career as a gunslinger.
Please keep the history content going! You’re a natural storyteller and they are my favorite videos.
I love the Old West history stuff. It's become so mythologized, a lot of times it can be tough to separate the truth from the fiction.
The reality of the Old West is that it was mostly people trying to get by and improve their lot in life, just like now.
00:00 Intro
00:57 Who's the person passed off as Doc Holliday in photos?
03:14 Why are Earps so prolific in Western lore and where did it start?
07:47 What was the whisk(e)y of choice for Earp and the West at the time?
09:11 During the fight at the OK Corral, what was the calibre of the shotgun used?
11:51 What do you think of the Tombstone Rifle and its marketing?
15:09 What is a tidbit about the gunfight and the parties involved that pop culture has got correct?
17:03 After the Vendetta Ride, what became of the charges that arose from it?
22:02 Long-barreled Colt .45 "Buntline Special"
23:12 Fitzsimmons vs Sharkey boxing match
27:48 Outro
even after years of inrange q&a i am still astonished by the knowledge of this man
thank you!
To synthesize a few details: It seems quite ironic to me that the idolatry of Wyatt Earp is focused largely around worshipping a monied city-slicker who used excessive force as a lawman to tyrannically enforce unjust and over-reaching edicts... Even though most of America (or rural America at least) would probably find much more common cause with the Cowboys, and are even marketed to as though they are a Cowboy supporter, "Riding into town to exact justice upon the murderer Wyatt Earp."
Excellent video as always - keep shining the light on lesser-known details from history!
it’s interesting you pointed that out because i’ve thought about that aswell
only seen a few people talk about this before lmao
I have had the same thoughts myself
I could listen to you talking about this for hours. Great job!
Wow, thanks!
My thanks to the patrons and utreons, those questions were sufficiently informed about stuff i know nothing about, to make a great Q n A. Cheers
This was GREAT ! ! ! I love the 'Old West' both history and myth.
Really like these shows where you debunk the "Wild West" myths, sighting actual historical evidence.
I really like the idea of focused Q&As. This was an interesting dive into a historical figure and if you choose to do more focused Q&As in the future it will make it easier for us to go back and revisit that info again vs the typical free-for-all type.
Thanks, Karl, for clarifying, correcting inaccuracies, and dispelling broadly accepted mythology regarding the life and times of Wyatt Earp. There are a great deal of historical inaccuracies worldwide that could stand to be corrected, and most likely will never be.
Tombstone is one of my very favourite places to visit in the USA. The mythology and history make the story of the "difficulty" fascinating. My other favourite is The Little Bighorn battlefield, also because there is so much myth and legend built up around the actual facts.
I love the sheer variety of content you produce.
We need to bring back “pulling an Earp”
I love it when you delve into history.
I much prefer the historical, focused Q&A and your history content in general. The brutality and modern firearm tests are fun and well done, but there are so few folks doing good history of the American West that I feel these are a great service to the community as a whole. Thanks for keeping In Range alive!
The legendary cowboys who tamed the west with their 9mm lever gun lol
Man they even hired Sam Elliot to narrate it. Went all out to make a total meme commercial. Still chuckling after seeing it
IMO that is one ugly assed gun. I'd be ashamed to be seen with it. To me it just screams wannabe....
@unclejohnbulleit2671 it's probably meant as a ca state special. A 9mm tacticool carbine that isn't a semi auto. Too bad it's hideous. A 9mm 1873 winchester would be fun.
@@KR-hg8be Yep! I'd be putting away the pennies for that!
Old West PCC?
Agree a 9 mm real lever action would be fun to shoot
Excellent video on the real Wyatt Earp. Water's "the Earp Brothers of Tombstone" was one of the first accurate accounts of the 'Old West' I ever read. I very much enjoy and appreciate this type of content. It's why I started supporting you several years ago. Keep it up!
Thanks for that!
Loved tombstone growing up. Even though I knew then Hollywood was fake I never researched anything about it. Thanks for the insight!!! Awesome vid 👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think there's a bit of nuance that gets missed when saying the gun used by Doc Holliday was just a "10 gauge". In the modern era we load our guns WAY heavier than the late Victorians really would have, and at this time a gun like this more than likely would have had 2-5/8" chambers loaded with between 1 ounce to 1-1/4 ounces of shot. In reality a 10 gauge cartridge of the 1880s wasn't really loaded all that differently than a 12 gauge is today, whereas the 12 gauge of the day would have been loaded closer to a modern day 20 gauge or 28 gauge. Funnily enough in the 1898 book "Hitting vs Missing with the Shotgun" by S.T. Hammond he recommends 5/8 ounce charges as being ideal for the 12 gauge, which is lighter than a lot of 3" 410s are loaded with these days.
the Old West history is what brought me to your channel. you do it like no body else. would love to see more on site old west vingnettes
This was great! I'm going to tombstone in 2 weeks for my birthday! Super excited!
This was an awesome Q&A! Loved it, learned a lot of stuff I never knew. Thanks for the switch up! So, when are you doing a Tombstone Brutality? You know you want to!
Oh that would be fun!
Like SASS, but with full power ammo and harder stage designs.
4:35 Interesting that Wyatt chose that profession later in his life. I, as most, did that for a stint much earlier in life.
Focused Q&A's are fun
A wonderful and cogent discussion on Wyatt's life and legend. Thank you!
Focused Q&A is a great addition. It narrows down the topic but answers it greatly with the help of patreon questions. I like it.
Thanks Karl, that was really enjoyable and interesting.
I am an older guy , i have enjoyed your output for years and have subscribed with patreon . Keep up the good work and thank you .
Thank you Karl! Very interesting! Rich.
Best Q&A yet, please keep up this format! The historical aspect and stories you tell is the reason I love your channel
“Never let truth get in the way of a good story…” certainly applies to Earp.
23:12 The Myth of the Buntline Special: replica of a legend for modern audiences 🥳
I have watched so much on this over the years, always glad to see honest review and exposition
Thank-you for this video, I always enjoy your videos and learn something new. Good Job..
I always enjoy the q&a’s. Thank you
Glad you like them!
Wonderful. I liked the focus format.
I do so enjoy these Old/New west videos.
Nice to see an accurate truthful account of history for a change, well done.
I didn't find Tombstone to be a very good movie no matter how much I like Kurt Russell, but I DO find this video to be very good. What a well informed and level-headed approach to correcting myths and simply laying out facts. I never knew enough about even the fictional Earp to be taken by his fictional personage and to be corrected from, but these were still things I needed and appreciate to know, so thanks for that.
Thank you very much!
Thanks again Karl for such great content.
Glad you enjoy it!
I really like this format, and I'm looking forward to the next one.
That was great! Not at all what I was expecting to watch this morning but excellent! Entertaining and informative!! Thanks !
I like this format. Definitely want to see more.
Love it. Love the myth, the truth and everything in between. Also didn’t know most double barrels were 10 gauge. Cheers!!
Another great video! I enjoyed the focused subject matter and the wild west topic is also a favorite.
thanks Carl, I always enjoy your story time.
Excellent video Karl, thank you...
I really like the focused Q&A format
Great video. Dispels a ton of myths. 👍
That answers a lot of questions that I've had over the years. Thank you--I'm enjoying the focused Q&A format!
Thanks Karl, we appreciate you!
I really enjoy the historical content you do
Very interesting and informative. Thank you, Karl. More old west history, please.
Awesome video.
I would love to see some more on the charleville indian trade gun I thought that video was very interesting and the gun itself was beautiful in it own way.
Love your videos karl.
Great Q&A! Would love to see more history oriented content on your channel.
Awesome job Sir. I enjoy videos like this very much. I'm a western history person to say the least. Have also been to hole-in-the-wall near Kaycee Wyoming years ago. Please do more of these if you see fit. Thank you
Really like this format. Thanks for doing this!
Well done . Thank you .
This was great! I learned more about one of my favorite times in history than I ever have.
I went to Tombstone, AZ in 2019 and was disappointed to see what a tourist trap it had become. They were even selling “replica wanted posters” of Wyatt and Doc, but the portraits on them were of Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer.
Almost an Old West Vignette.
Which I think is are your best works!
Just me.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
Really great content, would love to see more like this!
Really enjoyed this focused Q&A, and look forward to more. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this stuff. Thank you ❤
Thanks for explaining the actual common definition of "cowboy" or "cow-boy" in 19th century America. Its use was more closely similar to the British English use of the word. "Cowboys" would normally refer to themselves as "ranch hands" or "drovers"....
My teen years were spent in the area. I even have been in the mines. I wonder though. There was Tombstone, but at the time what did Bisbee, Fort Huachuca, and other towns look like around this period.
“When you had to choose between history and legend, print the legend”.
All the while embellishing upon said legend !
Brilliant collection of info
Thank you Sir great job 👍👍
I enjoyed this very much. Thanks Karl.
Loved this q&a, watched a ton of westerns with my grandma and always wondered what was historically true and what was Hollywood. Also sweet hammered side by side been wanting one forever
Thanks, Karl!
good video, always informative.
Love this content, please do more history content if your schedule allows!
A very interesting and enjoyable video.
Love the old west stuff!
Near San Francisco, you can visit Wyatt Earp marker located in Hills of Eternity Memorial Park, a Jewish cemetery in Colma, California. Many other early California graves / monuments are located in the vicinity. The bodies and markers were all relocated to this area from earlier cemeteries so as to free up land further up peninsula. Definitely worth a visit!
PS - San Francisco outlawed interments within city limits in 1900, then evicted all existing cemeteries in 1912.
My favorite video of the month!
Awesome Karl. Good show sir!
Fantastic information,goes to show and proves,that fiction is more interesting than actual facts👌
the doc holiday picture reveal just melted my mind, it's also all over Glenwood Springs, where his grave is. and i could have sworn it was in a biography i read about him made by one of his descendants.
Thanks for making this video
This was EXCELLENT.
Very cosmopolitan sheriff. Love these history lessons
yaaas do more historical Q&A I loved this
Excellent episode Karl from a freezing Colorado..
Nicely done Karl
A side by side of John and Doc would be nice to see.
wikipedia has a different picture, so if you open 2 tabs, one with this video and one with the wiki page you can compare.
Amazing q&a!
That was very interesting. Thank you.
Thanks Karl
Great video, Karl.
Wonderful topic!
Thank you!
Great video, thank you
LOVED it. Wish I could take you to lunch. Long drive from ky. You are excellent.
Awesome job, thanks.
I almost expected his most accurate portrayal to be the episode of the original Star Trek show where the crew are the Clantons and they have to fight the villanous Earps...
Hey Karl, could you cover Porter Rockwell? He was actually quite famous during his day and doesn't get enough credit for his prolific career as a gunslinger.
Virgil keeping his paralyzed arm is such a power move, holy hell.