If you go back more than 2 or 3 years when you get to me, it doesn't count. I was extra dumb back then. I also constantly tell my audience I'm an idiot, so it's their own fault if they listen to me.
@@Physics072 Shut up, Bob. Take a fourth grade English course sometime.
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22:45 I only found your channel a week ago. It is very humbling to know that there's a person out there that is as busy as you are that is willing to give up a substantial amount of his time to try and help out whoever is willing to watch and listen. The fact that you're one of the very top long range shooters in the country if not the world makes this even more amazing. God bless you and may all your groups be small and centered.
I have been reloading for more than 40 years. I had to figure a lot of this stuff you're talking about on my own. Back then there was no TH-cam to help a guy out. I could only read the little that was out there and figure the rest out with experimentation. After 40 years of reloading I'm still picking things up and I don't think any of us will ever know it all. I am thankful for all you who put things on TH-cam to help others. I don't always agree with everything that's said but if I can pick up a tidbit I do agree with and it helps me be a better reloader I'm happy. So thanks again to all of you who share your knowledge.
Outstanding comment with a refreshing attitude . . . all I can say is . . . ''DITTO''. Chris - "After 40 years of reloading I'm still picking things up and I don't think any of us will ever know it all." is true 'Wisdom'...keeping an open mind and having the willingness to 'experiment' & document the empirical evidence is everything. Whether it proves you right or wrong is not the bottom line...it is the fact that you learned something. . . . . charlie
Chris Outdoors Thumbs up for that! Close to 40 years for me as well. Matter-of-fact, been reloading for almost as long as I've been subscribed to Shooting Times and Handloader magazines. 😃
Yeah, I’m going on 50+ reloading since I started in ‘68 and am old school at neck sizing but after seeing Erik’s video on FL and bullet seating it changed my ways after improving my groups from .38MOA to .28MOA and often smaller. I take what Erik says to the bank...... you can teach on old dog new tricks
I have been reloading for 30 years and always felt that if I stop learning I am going to stop reloading because that’s when mistakes can happen more often complacency gets people hurt you can ask 100 people how they do a task and will get 100 different ways but some are more effective and wear less on equipment
Quote of the day! "Feel isn't a measurement!" With your permission I will be using that quote with my highschool science students when we go over quality of arguments /evidence.
Thank you Erik. As a seasoned gunsmith and precision hand loader I fully agree with your methods. Many hours of testing have taught me what works and what steps matter in your prep and assembly. I'm not nearly as OCD as I once was! Also loved the video on "chasing the lands"! Keep up the great vids!
Let’s grow this channel guys. Erik has a proven track record and nothing he will share is hearsay, speculation or copied from another channel. What he does in the reloading room and behind the rifle elevated him to the top of this game. This is what our sport need! I am not a social media warrior but I’m all in to incentivize him to create content, that can be trusted.
Erik...you and Eagle Eye both have good points. Thank You! I've even seen him go against his previous videos, after learning that what he thought, wasn't actually the best way of dong things. We are thankful, for all experiments, that you guys perform, with weapons. Thank You!
Great Detective work on EES video. I gained more respect for you through your character in this video than your knowledge. Keep up the good work and the manner you present your content. We don’t need to see you degrade another YTuber for entertainment as others may suggest, we come to you bc we want to be educated in a professional manner. Thank you for having integrity and keeping your channel “family-friendly” so other younger shooters can watch without cringing. 👍🏼😀
I'm so glad you noticed that die moving! That was going to burn a hole in my soul if that wasn't talked about. I would bet the majority of his deviation is coming from that die moving around so much. Great video and thank you for not trashing the guy. I'm sure his heart is in the right place.
Erik, you are spot on. Looks like the shoulder variation is there because the die to g is not tight. I'm only 51 but have loaded for over 36 yrs and was of the old era of neck sizing. I was bushing neck sizing with the occasional fliers I could never pin down. I found your post with the F-Class and bench shooters and it opened my eyes. I tried full length bump sizing and bushing sizing necks. With my 40X 308 shooting from a bag, I just shot a 0.030" spread 4-shot group at 100yds, the best I've ever shot. Fun is factory other than being bedded. I'm sold and am trying it with all my other calibers. If you've some anything, you've at least helped me. Thanks!
Keep them coming Mr.Cortina. I have been reloading about 10 years for hunting applications, but I love shooting groups in the off season. The smaller the better, (Thats not what she said)
Erik first off please release more videos. Thank you for helping all of us out by sharing your knowledge! I have found at .002” shoulder bump if you strip your bolt you will get a nice smooth chamber with little to no resistance. It’s more of a Precision fit that he is trying to describe except you have a measurement to reference to to repeat time and time again.
I've become a big fan of Eric's and am learning a lot by his guidance. I really appreciate his approach to this guy, giving him respect but correcting his errors. Good job Eric.
@Erik Cortina all the way from South Africa. Thanks for this. Using your method and not only improved group size but man makes your life 100 times easier!!!!
First time I saw the video from "Eagle Eye" I thought the guy was being too casual about this whole "feel thing." The FIRST tool I bought when starting to load for 6.5PRC was the comparator. 0.002 "bump" is a real thing that can be measured and can be achieved repeatedly. Now if I could only reduce my coffee consumption, I'm sure my groups would really tighten up!
I don't shoot competitively, but I demand the best accuracy from the rifles I use for varmint hunting that I can get. One hole groups at 100 yards is pretty good, under
Nice video. I liked that you linked in that short clip of David Tubb from the Long Range Shooters of Utah channel. When it came up, I thought, 'Hey, I've seen that video".
I bump size using the Redding “Competition” Shell Holders because that allows me to get full contact on the shell holder when pull handle on my rockchucker. And I of course use my comparator to measure everything. That said, I will certainly want to see how you bump size because I am always very interested in learning good ideas. Thank you for this video commentary!!
Can of Beans that’s a bummer your Shellholders weren’t correct. Mine are correct but thank you. I can only suggest contacting Redding because they do have typical lifetime warranty. Good luck to you
I just measured my Redding “Competition” shell holders with my Mitutoyu dial type caliper. Measurements were from bearing surface for base of brass - to bearing surface contacting press piston. My measurements seem exactly what they are supposed to be. Standard 0.125” + 002: 0.123” + 004: 0.121” + 006: 0.119” + 008: 0.117” + 010: 0.115” For my 308 Forster “Benchrest” full length sizing die and for my 308 factory rifle, I use the +008 holder to get a bump measuring typically between 0.001” and 0.002”
Holy crap. I’ve been subbed to this channel for a long time and this notification just popped up and I realized who you are 😂 only been subbed to Texas Barndominiums since you started working with Matt!
A great video and many lessons learned. Having said that, I can tell from how the sizing lube was applied to his brass why his bump numbers are erratic- lube is on the shoulder and that’s causing the inconsistency. Lube the neck and the baby, never the shoulder, keep it dry for better results.
@@user-yr1dp7kr8g yes!!! I just saw this video yesterday and even before all the movement in his die I was like get rid of those fing cheap ass calipers and take real measurements
I watched some of his videos and they had me itching my head. Thanks for the response video to ease my confusion (I like to think I'm always learning but don't want to go about it wrong either).
Brother, I'm binging your videos. Basically a meat hunter and lover of firearms. Hobby reloader with an emphasis on accuracy. I reload for several different hunting rifles and pistols made for different jobs from single shots to revolvers to automatics. Keep doing what you do. You're gonna have a million subs before you know it. Thank you for the videos.
He has the hornady lock and load collet setup on his press. I had similar issues with sizing cases on my press with that hornady kit. Since then I've gone back to the standard thread and die itself and have had no issues I'm consistently bumping my shoulders back .002. I also use the mec marksman press
Gray Note Media man I don’t believe that. I have been watching Eagle Eye for quite a long time now. He doesn’t cus anyone out nor would he block you for just disagreeing with him.
I see this was made three years ago, and I’m sure you’ve grown since then, but you were talking about the time it takes to make the videos and it looked like you edit them yourself. You may have already done this by now since I’m just seeing this video three years after it was made, but you might want to think about hiring a video editor. My guess is you have done that already, given the growth of your channel. Thank you for what you do. Keep going! Love and appreciate the content.
I've tried both methods and they both provide good enough accuracy for me, 1 MOA or better, but I definitely prefer the .002" shoulder bump. Some of my dies using standard shell holders don't let me bump the shoulder but full length resizing almost always gives me the same results, 1 MOA or better, which is no longer an especially high standard. So I if I can't readily and easily bump the shoulder I don't care. Great vid as usual. I really like Erik's attitude, and always have.
Love your videos would really like to see a start to finish load video from brass prep to seating bullets and some groups I know you got those tight lil big holes share that knowledge brother I’ll keep watching
Master Yoda, there is no feel. There is only measure! I'd like to see the Eric "Yoda" Cortina t shirt. I can't wait for your next video. Thanks so much!
I’ve been bumping shoulders back 2 thousands for years now. I use Redding type s fl bushing dies on my long rage and hunting rifles and it’s never felled me yet. Look forward to the next video Erik.
To his credit Eagle Eye Shooting put it out there. What makes this a learning experience is that we learned there is more than one way to do it. But using a measurement instead of "feel" will bring repeatability and better understanding. So that is the way I am going.
No where in the video did I ever see TWO WRENCHES to tighten the jam nut securely while holding the die in position. Not by the press, not behind the guy, not left of the chair, not on the shelf under the loader, not one the tray below the table. I can't remember ever adjusting a die without having wrenches out from start to until after a final test with everything fully tightened - and this is on a progressive with replaceable plates. If I had a single stage those wrenches would live in a purpose made holder directly on or under or the press. I wonder if he's hand tightening dies to get that wobble and 30 thou variance? (In the accuracy video a year later wrenches are out, I guess he learned!)
Holy shit, just randomly flipping through TH-cam videos, this one starts when I'm looking away and I'm like "Wait, did I click on a Demo Ranch HQ video?" Didn't know you were a shooter sir. Another channel to sub to! (also don't be too hard on JRB! :D )
Would love to see a video of your reloading process, the equipment you use, and why you use that particular equipment/what advantage comes from special equipment. Your smallest group video showing the CPS, hydro press and Prometheus has me intrigued.
Thanks for the heads up brother,one the 7,62-39 is a bad choice for the test for one,but that's me,I think Erik will get us to the right way.iam not mad at Eagle eye he may need to watch Erik.
I was having inconsistencies with my Hornady LnL quick change bushings. I could see the die move up and down. Since moving to the Zero press I have zero issues.
Erik, I love what you are doing with this second channel. HOWEVER.... Make sure you're enjoying yourself. Take your time. Do it the way you want. I am confident that if you are happy with the product you put out here, I will be.
I was really hesitant to watch this video as I disliked alot of the negative comments I was reading on the video beforehand, but I am glad I went on and watched it. I learned alot from watching it. I appreciate the way you discussed what you disagreed with him without absolutely flaming him like some of the comments (I don't think flaming comments help anyone, just like the comment he made at the end of his video.). Thanks for the constructive way you pointed out the issues you had!
I just found your other channel today. I really enjoy your business one. I really don’t know anything about guns, but I will totally agree with you on feel is no measurement. Also if I really be concerned with accuracy I might not buy my measuring devices at Harbor Freight. The old adage of you get what you pay for comes to mind. I’m a heavy equipment mechanic by trade and on older equipment close enough was good enough. I can use a business card to set the ring and pinion gear in a final drive and it feels good or I can use a dial indicator to measure the gear lash to verify.
Biggest issue with his test, his extractor and firing pin are still in the bolt body. He is not feeling the case, he is feeling the resistance of the firing pin and the extractor pressing on the back of the case. He is using a Thompson Centre rifle which activates the firing pin when opening the bolt. This is besides everything else he spoke about. I have seen this method used before correctly and it is done correctly, the bump is usually 1 - 2 thou anyway.
Ive never had that much variance when bumping back the shoulder. Although different brands of brass gives a higher amount of variance but not .030 of a inch.
He is using Harbour Freight digital calipers. What is the repeatable accuracy with these using guage blocks of varying lengths. To be precise you must use precise tools that have been calibrated to a known standard. It may be accurate at one length but not others.
Thanks, Erik. You are very generous to share your knowledge, experience, and time with the shooting community on YT. More info is always better, and every viewer will decide for himself what he wants to do. But "to get my results, you've got to do what I do" is still true. Showing on-target results with valid group sizes (5, 10, or 20 shots) is "proof" enough.
I am starting to like Eric's content a lot. I am beginning LR shooting and have jumped in the deep end a bit. Fortunately a lot of YT watching has saved me from most early errors, and I believe that I am starting out in the right direction so to speak. I am also going to start posting vids of my progress from an amateur's point of view, which I hope will be motivating for others, although I strongly recommend watching the professionals like Eric.
Hello my Friend, I’m not new to handloading for accuracy, and I will watch your videos for more knowledge, because you put it down like it should be, thank you very much for all of your knowledge brother 👍🏼✌🏼
Hello from Australia! One point Eric for your subscribers and people new to precision loading to maybe consider: Correct and consistent use of callipers in a repetitive or "production-line" type process such as hand-loading relies on consistent pressure or "feel" on the closing force of the callipers. Unless you are using the tension ratchet feature found on some precision measuring tools (like some vernier-scale micrometers for example {and even these features have their problems such as the need for perfect axial alignment of the part being measured to the anvil and spindle of the micrometer}), the variability of "feel" is not removed from the process of measurement. I use the same "shoulder set-back technique as Eric (but with not as much shooting skill) with good results as do many others. I would hope that people don't get the idea that if you put a set of vernier callipers into the hands of an untrained user, the problem of the inconsistency of feel goes away. It's easy to muscle a difference of several thousandths into your calliper measurement with your thumb. Using callipers is a skill very much incorporating feel and improving with attention and practice. I take it for granted because of 30 years of practice with precision measuring tools but watching this reminded me that in the beginning, I needed to be taught about feel. Stay safe and thank you for taking the time to teach us! You are an inspiration! Luke.
1st thing I noticed is the harbor freight calipers. Everything else is called into question when using bottom of the barrel equipment to take precision measurements
If you have a maximum chamber and you full lenth resize even just bumping the shoulder back .002 you will have . 002 of shoulder clearance but your body clearance will be much more. Neck sizing for the same bolt rifle is a pretty standard practice.
If you go back more than 2 or 3 years when you get to me, it doesn't count. I was extra dumb back then. I also constantly tell my audience I'm an idiot, so it's their own fault if they listen to me.
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Hahahha love you man. JRB is an entertainment channel, and one of the finest at that.
Even during your pubescent phase, 2 or 3 years ago, I learn more.
Thank you Johnny.
I’m gonna have to go checkout JRB. Reaction video coming up. 😁
Love your stuff brother!
Im so glad you just didn´t trash the guy totally. I was affraid you just would bully him to hell but you actually showed him some respect. Good job!!
Because the guy was not wrong. Why would you be "Afraid" its not about you. A bit dramatic to go over the top with worry.
@@Physics072 Shut up, Bob. Take a fourth grade English course sometime.
22:45 I only found your channel a week ago. It is very humbling to know that there's a person out there that is as busy as you are that is willing to give up a substantial amount of his time to try and help out whoever is willing to watch and listen. The fact that you're one of the very top long range shooters in the country if not the world makes this even more amazing. God bless you and may all your groups be small and centered.
I have been reloading for more than 40 years. I had to figure a lot of this stuff you're talking about on my own. Back then there was no TH-cam to help a guy out. I could only read the little that was out there and figure the rest out with experimentation. After 40 years of reloading I'm still picking things up and I don't think any of us will ever know it all. I am thankful for all you who put things on TH-cam to help others. I don't always agree with everything that's said but if I can pick up a tidbit I do agree with and it helps me be a better reloader I'm happy. So thanks again to all of you who share your knowledge.
Outstanding comment with a refreshing attitude . . . all I can say is . . . ''DITTO''.
Chris - "After 40 years of reloading I'm still picking things up and I don't think any of us will ever know it all."
is true 'Wisdom'...keeping an open mind and having the willingness to 'experiment' & document the empirical evidence is everything. Whether it proves you right or wrong is not the bottom line...it is the fact that you learned something. . . . . charlie
Great commitment I enjoyed reading it thank you
Chris Outdoors Thumbs up for that! Close to 40 years for me as well. Matter-of-fact, been reloading for almost as long as I've been subscribed to Shooting Times and Handloader magazines. 😃
Yeah, I’m going on 50+ reloading since I started in ‘68 and am old school at neck sizing but after seeing Erik’s video on FL and bullet seating it changed my ways after improving my groups from .38MOA to .28MOA and often smaller. I take what Erik says to the bank...... you can teach on old dog new tricks
I have been reloading for 30 years and always felt that if I stop learning I am going to stop reloading because that’s when mistakes can happen more often complacency gets people hurt you can ask 100 people how they do a task and will get 100 different ways but some are more effective and wear less on equipment
Quote of the day! "Feel isn't a measurement!"
With your permission I will be using that quote with my highschool science students when we go over quality of arguments /evidence.
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Please do! Lol
@@ErikCortinayou need a shirt that says feeling is not a measurement
Thank you Erik. As a seasoned gunsmith and precision hand loader I fully agree with your methods. Many hours of testing have taught me what works and what steps matter in your prep and assembly. I'm not nearly as OCD as I once was! Also loved the video on "chasing the lands"! Keep up the great vids!
Let’s grow this channel guys. Erik has a proven track record and nothing he will share is hearsay, speculation or copied from another channel. What he does in the reloading room and behind the rifle elevated him to the top of this game. This is what our sport need! I am not a social media warrior but I’m all in to incentivize him to create content, that can be trusted.
Erik...you and Eagle Eye both have good points. Thank You!
I've even seen him go against his previous videos, after learning that what he thought, wasn't actually the best way of dong things.
We are thankful, for all experiments, that you guys perform, with weapons.
Thank You!
Notice the cracked brass when he was bumping them back! HAHAHA
Damn dude. First time viewer. Highly impressed with your knowledge and that you didn't immediately call this guy a fool.
Great Detective work on EES video. I gained more respect for you through your character in this video than your knowledge. Keep up the good work and the manner you present your content. We don’t need to see you degrade another YTuber for entertainment as others may suggest, we come to you bc we want to be educated in a professional manner. Thank you for having integrity and keeping your channel “family-friendly” so other younger shooters can watch without cringing. 👍🏼😀
I'm so glad you noticed that die moving! That was going to burn a hole in my soul if that wasn't talked about. I would bet the majority of his deviation is coming from that die moving around so much. Great video and thank you for not trashing the guy. I'm sure his heart is in the right place.
Love kenny from desert precision. His builds are amazing
Eric, I am fairly new to reloading (less than 2 years). So, please keep them coming!!
All the best!
@6:19 same. never found concentricity to be a measurable factor in groups.
Thanks for taking the time to make this!!!! The reloading community needs more guys like you!
"You can anneal it, it'll be fine."
I'm stealing that.
For everything messed up at work I'm using that phrase.
Erik, you are spot on. Looks like the shoulder variation is there because the die to g is not tight.
I'm only 51 but have loaded for over 36 yrs and was of the old era of neck sizing. I was bushing neck sizing with the occasional fliers I could never pin down. I found your post with the F-Class and bench shooters and it opened my eyes. I tried full length bump sizing and bushing sizing necks. With my 40X 308 shooting from a bag, I just shot a 0.030" spread 4-shot group at 100yds, the best I've ever shot. Fun is factory other than being bedded. I'm sold and am trying it with all my other calibers. If you've some anything, you've at least helped me. Thanks!
Keep them coming Mr.Cortina. I have been reloading about 10 years for hunting applications, but I love shooting groups in the off season. The smaller the better, (Thats not what she said)
Erik first off please release more videos. Thank you for helping all of us out by sharing your knowledge! I have found at .002” shoulder bump if you strip your bolt you will get a nice smooth chamber with little to no resistance. It’s more of a Precision fit that he is trying to describe except you have a measurement to reference to to repeat time and time again.
I've become a big fan of Eric's and am learning a lot by his guidance. I really appreciate his approach to this guy, giving him respect but correcting his errors. Good job Eric.
@Erik Cortina all the way from South Africa. Thanks for this. Using your method and not only improved group size but man makes your life 100 times easier!!!!
First time I saw the video from "Eagle Eye" I thought the guy was being too casual about this whole "feel thing." The FIRST tool I bought when starting to load for 6.5PRC was the comparator. 0.002 "bump" is a real thing that can be measured and can be achieved repeatedly. Now if I could only reduce my coffee consumption, I'm sure my groups would really tighten up!
I don't shoot competitively, but I demand the best accuracy from the rifles I use for varmint hunting that I can get. One hole groups at 100 yards is pretty good, under
“Feel ain’t a measurement”.
Truer words have never been spoken!
@Common Logic 🤣🤣🤣that is a classic comment!!!!!!! Awesome!
Tell your wife that and let me know how it goes for you 😝
Nice video. I liked that you linked in that short clip of David Tubb from the Long Range Shooters of Utah channel. When it came up, I thought, 'Hey, I've seen that video".
I agree with your assessment, the sizing die is built for resizing brass, the bolt and rifle chamber is not.
I bump size using the Redding “Competition” Shell Holders because that allows me to get full contact on the shell holder when pull handle on my rockchucker. And I of course use my comparator to measure everything.
That said, I will certainly want to see how you bump size because I am always very interested in learning good ideas. Thank you for this video commentary!!
Can of Beans that’s a bummer your Shellholders weren’t correct. Mine are correct but thank you. I can only suggest contacting Redding because they do have typical lifetime warranty. Good luck to you
I just measured my Redding “Competition” shell holders with my Mitutoyu dial type caliper. Measurements were from bearing surface for base of brass - to bearing surface contacting press piston. My measurements seem exactly what they are supposed to be.
Standard 0.125”
+ 002: 0.123”
+ 004: 0.121”
+ 006: 0.119”
+ 008: 0.117”
+ 010: 0.115”
For my 308 Forster “Benchrest” full length sizing die and for my 308 factory rifle, I use the +008 holder to get a bump measuring typically between 0.001” and 0.002”
THANK YOU ERIK I AM NOT A SHOOTER WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE HOWEVER HE JUST RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAY.
Nice work Erik! I’m so glad I found your channel. Very informative and interesting. Keep up the good work!
Holy crap. I’ve been subbed to this channel for a long time and this notification just popped up and I realized who you are 😂 only been subbed to Texas Barndominiums since you started working with Matt!
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Thank you Erik, hopefully you have shown him the light. Alot of chuckles
I’m watching this 2 years later and I’m LMAO. I just recently found your channel and I find it very informative and even get some chuckles. 👍👍
A great video and many lessons learned. Having said that, I can tell from how the sizing lube was applied to his brass why his bump numbers are erratic- lube is on the shoulder and that’s causing the inconsistency. Lube the neck and the baby, never the shoulder, keep it dry for better results.
Anything I do that has to be perfect in every way, I use Harbor Freight tools...
Hahaaaaa😄
Exactly!! The equipment failure was his HF calipers.
@@user-yr1dp7kr8g yes!!! I just saw this video yesterday and even before all the movement in his die I was like get rid of those fing cheap ass calipers and take real measurements
Real precision demands using plastic Chinese vernier calipers!!
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This was great. Wish you would have continued with the series.
Thank you for the info and being respectful to the man 😂😂.
Thank you Eric for giving us all help, I find your honesty refreshing, your help invaluable
I watched some of his videos and they had me itching my head. Thanks for the response video to ease my confusion (I like to think I'm always learning but don't want to go about it wrong either).
Great video....I agree something is wrong with his equipment. Eagle Eye/Kenny is very competent and knowledgeable. I'm sure he will learn from this.
Hope we get more of these. Watched it twice. Great video.
Brother, I'm binging your videos. Basically a meat hunter and lover of firearms. Hobby reloader with an emphasis on accuracy. I reload for several different hunting rifles and pistols made for different jobs from single shots to revolvers to automatics. Keep doing what you do. You're gonna have a million subs before you know it. Thank you for the videos.
He has the hornady lock and load collet setup on his press. I had similar issues with sizing cases on my press with that hornady kit. Since then I've gone back to the standard thread and die itself and have had no issues I'm consistently bumping my shoulders back .002. I also use the mec marksman press
Eric, you are a great teacher and ambassador to our sport/hobby... love your content!
Thank you
Lol. Always open to hear everyone’s point. Glad you had fun with it. Getting results still. Share knowledge, have fun
Gray Note Media man I don’t believe that. I have been watching Eagle Eye for quite a long time now. He doesn’t cus anyone out nor would he block you for just disagreeing with him.
I was wondering if crap was going to get stirred up... Now ladies, play nice 👍. We’re all one big happy family 🤗
@@johnblythe8229 no fighting, our 2A community has enough to fight about👍
Eagle Eye Shooting You’re a good man Kenny. Keep rolling..
I'd go with Erik's words....not a hard one to figure out. Also eagle eye shooting. Get better equipment.
I see this was made three years ago, and I’m sure you’ve grown since then, but you were talking about the time it takes to make the videos and it looked like you edit them yourself. You may have already done this by now since I’m just seeing this video three years after it was made, but you might want to think about hiring a video editor. My guess is you have done that already, given the growth of your channel. Thank you for what you do. Keep going! Love and appreciate the content.
I've tried both methods and they both provide good enough accuracy for me, 1 MOA or better, but I definitely prefer the .002" shoulder bump. Some of my dies using standard shell holders don't let me bump the shoulder but full length resizing almost always gives me the same results, 1 MOA or better, which is no longer an especially high standard. So I if I can't readily and easily bump the shoulder I don't care. Great vid as usual. I really like Erik's attitude, and always have.
Love your videos would really like to see a start to finish load video from brass prep to seating bullets and some groups I know you got those tight lil big holes share that knowledge brother I’ll keep watching
If people show Interest in the channel, I’ll do it.
I love watching and learning from you Erik. Thanks
Master Yoda, there is no feel. There is only measure! I'd like to see the Eric "Yoda" Cortina t shirt. I can't wait for your next video. Thanks so much!
Thanks for taking the time to post videos, very helpful
I’ve been bumping shoulders back 2 thousands for years now. I use Redding type s fl bushing dies on my long rage and hunting rifles and it’s never felled me yet. Look forward to the next video Erik.
To his credit Eagle Eye Shooting put it out there. What makes this a learning experience is that we learned there is more than one way to do it. But using a measurement instead of "feel" will bring repeatability and better understanding. So that is the way I am going.
Great stuff Erik, keep it coming.
No where in the video did I ever see TWO WRENCHES to tighten the jam nut securely while holding the die in position. Not by the press, not behind the guy, not left of the chair, not on the shelf under the loader, not one the tray below the table. I can't remember ever adjusting a die without having wrenches out from start to until after a final test with everything fully tightened - and this is on a progressive with replaceable plates. If I had a single stage those wrenches would live in a purpose made holder directly on or under or the press. I wonder if he's hand tightening dies to get that wobble and 30 thou variance? (In the accuracy video a year later wrenches are out, I guess he learned!)
"I hope so" lol, you locked me in there. It became personal haha
Holy shit, just randomly flipping through TH-cam videos, this one starts when I'm looking away and I'm like "Wait, did I click on a Demo Ranch HQ video?" Didn't know you were a shooter sir. Another channel to sub to! (also don't be too hard on JRB! :D )
Great information Eric !
Great video and I respect you for being very professional when it's hard to not be! lol. Hats off to you Erik
Would love to see a video of your reloading process, the equipment you use, and why you use that particular equipment/what advantage comes from special equipment.
Your smallest group video showing the CPS, hydro press and Prometheus has me intrigued.
Your information and time is much appreciated.
Thanks for the knowledge! Looking forward to the video so I can double check my set up!
Keep the content coming. Thank you.
Ever since I watched your seating depth video my accuracy has improved ten fold
Thanks for the content Eric, keep up the great work
Thanks for the heads up brother,one the 7,62-39 is a bad choice for the test for one,but that's me,I think Erik will get us to the right way.iam not mad at Eagle eye he may need to watch Erik.
I enjoyed this, PS, I see a silver play button behind you. Do you have another channel?
You can get that variance using calipers and applying more/less pressure taking measurements.
I was having inconsistencies with my Hornady LnL quick change bushings. I could see the die move up and down. Since moving to the Zero press I have zero issues.
I don't always agree on everything Erik prescribes to but he is a 100% correct on this. You can add reasons to why you want to full length size.
Like I always say "There are people with experience and people with opinions. Listen to one, smile at the other."
Nice video.I love the concept.
That’s good Thank You for taking the time.
Erik, I love what you are doing with this second channel. HOWEVER.... Make sure you're enjoying yourself. Take your time. Do it the way you want. I am confident that if you are happy with the product you put out here, I will be.
I was really hesitant to watch this video as I disliked alot of the negative comments I was reading on the video beforehand, but I am glad I went on and watched it. I learned alot from watching it. I appreciate the way you discussed what you disagreed with him without absolutely flaming him like some of the comments (I don't think flaming comments help anyone, just like the comment he made at the end of his video.). Thanks for the constructive way you pointed out the issues you had!
I just found your other channel today. I really enjoy your business one. I really don’t know anything about guns, but I will totally agree with you on feel is no measurement. Also if I really be concerned with accuracy I might not buy my measuring devices at Harbor Freight. The old adage of you get what you pay for comes to mind. I’m a heavy equipment mechanic by trade and on older equipment close enough was good enough. I can use a business card to set the ring and pinion gear in a final drive and it feels good or I can use a dial indicator to measure the gear lash to verify.
Erik, really like your channel and content, looking forward to the bump sizing video
Biggest issue with his test, his extractor and firing pin are still in the bolt body. He is not feeling the case, he is feeling the resistance of the firing pin and the extractor pressing on the back of the case. He is using a Thompson Centre rifle which activates the firing pin when opening the bolt. This is besides everything else he spoke about. I have seen this method used before correctly and it is done correctly, the bump is usually 1 - 2 thou anyway.
Ive never had that much variance when bumping back the shoulder. Although different brands of brass gives a higher amount of variance but not .030 of a inch.
Great video. please make the video where you show how to set up the dies.
He is using Harbour Freight digital calipers. What is the repeatable accuracy with these using guage blocks of varying lengths. To be precise you must use precise tools that have been calibrated to a known standard. It may be accurate at one length but not others.
Thanks, Erik. You are very generous to share your knowledge, experience, and time with the shooting community on YT. More info is always better, and every viewer will decide for himself what he wants to do. But "to get my results, you've got to do what I do" is still true. Showing on-target results with valid group sizes (5, 10, or 20 shots) is "proof" enough.
"He misspelled 'their'". LOL!! Love it! Thanks for your series of videos. Very informative. Even the spelling. ;)
I am starting to like Eric's content a lot. I am beginning LR shooting and have jumped in the deep end a bit. Fortunately a lot of YT watching has saved me from most early errors, and I believe that I am starting out in the right direction so to speak. I am also going to start posting vids of my progress from an amateur's point of view, which I hope will be motivating for others, although I strongly recommend watching the professionals like Eric.
I had the audio going when you were reading with the music and I thought you made a rap video about reloading
Really enjoyed the reaction video. Hoping for more.
Hello my Friend, I’m not new to handloading for accuracy, and I will watch your videos for more knowledge, because you put it down like it should be, thank you very much for all of your knowledge brother 👍🏼✌🏼
Excellent video Erik. Thanks.
I "felt" like I won an F class match one time, turns out I didn't. Pesky numbers always getting in the way!
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I've been doing Eric's methods for over 20 years.
It just works.
Thanks for posting Eric 👍
Hello from Australia! One point Eric for your subscribers and people new to precision loading to maybe consider: Correct and consistent use of callipers in a repetitive or "production-line" type process such as hand-loading relies on consistent pressure or "feel" on the closing force of the callipers. Unless you are using the tension ratchet feature found on some precision measuring tools (like some vernier-scale micrometers for example {and even these features have their problems such as the need for perfect axial alignment of the part being measured to the anvil and spindle of the micrometer}), the variability of "feel" is not removed from the process of measurement. I use the same "shoulder set-back technique as Eric (but with not as much shooting skill) with good results as do many others. I would hope that people don't get the idea that if you put a set of vernier callipers into the hands of an untrained user, the problem of the inconsistency of feel goes away. It's easy to muscle a difference of several thousandths into your calliper measurement with your thumb. Using callipers is a skill very much incorporating feel and improving with attention and practice. I take it for granted because of 30 years of practice with precision measuring tools but watching this reminded me that in the beginning, I needed to be taught about feel. Stay safe and thank you for taking the time to teach us! You are an inspiration! Luke.
I'm new to long range shooting as well as reloading. I've already learned so much from your vids. Cant wait for more!
Compairitor tools allow you to take a baseline measurement to modify your brass consistently and safely
1st thing I noticed is the harbor freight calipers. Everything else is called into question when using bottom of the barrel equipment to take precision measurements
If you have a maximum chamber and you full lenth resize even just bumping the shoulder back .002 you will have . 002 of shoulder clearance but your body clearance will be much more. Neck sizing for the same bolt rifle is a pretty standard practice.
Thanks for all you do for the shooting community!!
I have to say, I am impressed how professional your reaction was, also I am glad you posted this video as I learned something new.
I appreciate your efforts, thanks
Been reloading over 20 years, we need facts, and many guys just don’t even have notes to rely on. Keep up the good work, José Mariné from México.