Speedy tells his Benchrest secrets!

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  • @jakearchambault8160
    @jakearchambault8160 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can you do a video on all the bolt modification theory and process?

  • @redfishslaya9501
    @redfishslaya9501 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The more I watch you guys the more I know what I dont know.

  • @lkazanov
    @lkazanov 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Did he actually say zero MOA rifle? Unreal. I am ecstatic if I shoot sub 1 MOA. Totally on another level.

  • @tinfoilsombrero1439
    @tinfoilsombrero1439 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    It’s disheartening knowing, someday, a good percentage of Speedy’s (and others’) knowledge will be gone.

    • @hepfarms9101
      @hepfarms9101 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Speedy is a thief. He stole an action from me when he packed up and left SG&Y to go to Colorado.

    • @rayz7998
      @rayz7998 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It wasn't to long ago that knowledge was a secret not to be shared for fear of someone beating them either on the range, on the lake or preparing a hunting site. After 35 yrs in the military, I retired and bought a Ruger American bolt action 22LR to participate in our clubs rimfire benchrest fun shoots. I now realize I have a lot of tweaking to do. If you have anything else to share about improvements that can be made to rimfire rifles out of the box, please do. Thanks again. I'm hooked.

  • @glockparaastra
    @glockparaastra ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And Eric won in South Africa! My home. Well done!

  • @henryherman9113
    @henryherman9113 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why i enjoy shooting more and more is because of 2 great pros Like Speedy and Erick that are humble men and a credit to the shooting sport

  • @kensmith8832
    @kensmith8832 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a Winchester M70 action that was blueprinted. The new metal is too soft and tends to smear on the lugs of the bolt. It looks like the gunsmith welded it with a MIG rather than a TIG welder. Little things are difficult to see until you put it to work. With a 3 oz trigger, this smear can cause major issues in a competition. This was a rail gun I built in 2001.

  • @scottbeverly188
    @scottbeverly188 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I believe I could listen to you two talk for days on end about rifles and shooting. You two are bringing up things I never considered that should help me be a better shooter. Thanks, Eric and Speedy for doing these videos and keep them coming.

  • @ronnydowdy7432
    @ronnydowdy7432 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A lot of information in this interview.
    KNOWLEDGE...

  • @juliusjames5577
    @juliusjames5577 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to know how much velocity varies free recoil vs. pinning the stock to your shoulder. I’ll bet it ain’t much and can’t be bigger than my ES.

  • @UponGiantsShoulders
    @UponGiantsShoulders ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am totally a social shooter, but my physics and engineering background make me interested in the factors of precision. I always wanted to learn to reload and watching this channel over the last year and a half I have done just that. Eric has helped me focus on what matters and ignore what does not, keeping it as simple as possible while giving me some things to work on that offer precision gains.

  • @jameswilson3468
    @jameswilson3468 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Erik need more information about bolt blueprinting. Speedy gave the dimensions for the one end of the shroud but not the other. Would appreciate those details. Thanks Or better yet a video of you guy's machining the shroud.

  • @dustylayne1635
    @dustylayne1635 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The combined knowledge is amazing!!!

  • @annahonorata990
    @annahonorata990 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would like to see a discussion with both Alex Wheeler and Speedy moderated by Erik. That would be worth a glass of good wine!

  • @jimcheatham8306
    @jimcheatham8306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fire control and barrel.... everything else just holds them in place!!! That's golden knowledge!! Thanks Speedy and Eric these podcasts are awesome.... like having a Hummer Barrel for your ears!

  • @williamsweet7511
    @williamsweet7511 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember buying a limsaver rubber harmonic tuner for my ruger M77 30-06. Just a hunting rifle, but it was all over the place, 3 inch at 100 yards. light weight barrel, I put that tuner on, move it up or down the barrel till the group tightened up. It worked pretty good. This was 20 years ago ish.

  • @anthonycampbell1913
    @anthonycampbell1913 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Funny I'm watching this about the coil bind. I just had a issue with my M70 Winchester with lots of misfires and lots of flyers. It was this. 2 weeks out from an international hunt I'm pulling apart my rifles trying to mix and match springs. Even a new winchester sping bound. But i found one that worked and bingo accurate. Who makes springs for this?

  • @pietervanderwesthuizen3387
    @pietervanderwesthuizen3387 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Erik, what you guys are willing to share with the bigger community is commendable, thank you and please continue.

  • @frankwienckowski9150
    @frankwienckowski9150 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro! Super bad ass knowledge and wisdom 🙌. Keep on educating the audience whom wich to be educated. I look forward to the day to speak to you in person. You are definitely a credit to your hobby. Speedy rocks and is phenomenal in his endeavors for what he has impacted this community with. God bless you and your loved ones 🙏💪🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 👍❤️

  • @macgyver5108
    @macgyver5108 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    21:30 my grandpa "Mack" had a saying: "Every _young_ man needs an _OLD_ man" (to learn from...) and this here's a CLASSIC sort of example!

  • @airborne350g
    @airborne350g 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So, where can I get the spring kits for my Bat M and Bat 3L?

  • @JeffHenry-uo1nz
    @JeffHenry-uo1nz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great interview! Both Mike Walker and Tony Boyer are icons of rifles in our industry. Speedy was fortunate to be associated with them. Please consider interviewing Dave Gullo, a long range BPCR championship shooter and proprietor of Buffalo Arms Company. Another interesting interview would be Adam Weatherby, the third generation CEO of Weatherby and grandson of the iconic Roy Weatherby.

  • @benliebhaber7099
    @benliebhaber7099 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have never shot completively nor do i intend to, but i could listen to speedy and eric for hours. Great content!

  • @michaelangelino3189
    @michaelangelino3189 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First like baby. 10 K here we come.

  • @jasonrad9332
    @jasonrad9332 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keep the knowledge flowing Erik! Thanks to Speedy also!

  • @bradpittman5075
    @bradpittman5075 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks guys. This guy greatly appreciates the info. Keep it coming.

  • @MMBRM
    @MMBRM ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is amazing. I'd give my baby toe to be able to learn from Speedy directly. I know that in a week I could attain an amount of knowledge that could take me 30 years otherwise. However, I am confused about one thing. In his tuner story with the two "crappy" shilen barrels he said they didn't shoot because their twist rate wasn't fast enough to stabilize his boat tail bullets but then said the tuners made them more accurate without any other changes. There's no way a tuner can affect bullet stability from insufficient rpm so this just doesn't make any sense to me. Could I get some clarification?

    • @mikekopmanis2099
      @mikekopmanis2099 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that its amazing that Mike Walker had so much insight 60 yrs ago. Didnt know Speedy was an understudy.

  • @redraiderreloading7612
    @redraiderreloading7612 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome stuff! I just talked to Speedy last week. I was asking him if he had any secrets to how I could shoot better when the mirage was bad...lol
    Mirage is something that is hard for me to shoot consistent groups with.

    • @ErikCortina
      @ErikCortina  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good stuff to learn.

  • @REDNECKROOTS
    @REDNECKROOTS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My howa 1500 bolt spring looks like that bad one . Not quite as bad but close. How do i fix that ?

  • @iBleedStarsAndBars
    @iBleedStarsAndBars 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Speedy need not worry about the hall of fame. He's already made it

  • @Angrytoddler
    @Angrytoddler หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Show the next video he says he’s trying to pass the knowledge……..

  • @billyarnold6633
    @billyarnold6633 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the best video that I have ever seen. I might be able to absorb some of this information, thanks. HOPEFULLY

  • @Musicianized
    @Musicianized ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are they using copper solvent every time they clean or just carbon cleaner?

  • @kochj0713
    @kochj0713 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, if you like me, who went and checked their firing pin/bolt after hearing this podcast well Erick and speedy, you just created enough work for yourself to last a lifetime for machining these things out everybody’s gonna want it done now

  • @stephenbaker7499
    @stephenbaker7499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    REALLY, enjoy listening to both , eric and speedy g ,you can see the close friendship between them.very much like working on my projects, listening to them in the background. always pleasant .many thanks gentleman.👍

  • @Rico11b
    @Rico11b ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't it funny how every generation has to RE-LEARN things that earlier generations had already learned. Maybe videos like this will be super helpful to future generations and shorten their learning curve.
    In areas of high humidity leaving a dirty barrel will shorten the life of that barrel for sure. Carbon and Copper build up in a steel barrel will eat the steel of the barrel when you introduce humidity. That green patina that develops inside the barrel is corrosion and it's going to start attacking your barrel

  • @kentowens2179
    @kentowens2179 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video. As a former builder and competitor of rimfire BR rifles, I know very different, but the bolt work are ignition are critical. Most folks don't understand the amount of work involved to get it right. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It was like "Deja vu all over again for and old retired guy". I agree with Speedy on 2 types of shooters, I never was a social shooter. After I retired, I attended a couple matches just to visit, but I never shot the match.. I visited and talked to folks.

  • @SteveWilliams-gw4rb
    @SteveWilliams-gw4rb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would be first inline to buy that spring and bush kit x 2 please please!

  • @JeffKnoxAZ
    @JeffKnoxAZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great conversation guys. I loved going to Benchrest matches with my folks when I was a kid. I had a joke dollar bet with Mac McMillian the day he shot his perfect group at Skunk Creek in 1973 (and I still maintain that it was perfect). I was always amazed by the depth of knowledge and attention to detail the serious competitors brought to the game. Dad had a great grasp on all of the variables, and did quite a bit of testing when he was breaking in a new gun and working up loads, but he never kept the detailed logs and data that many of the other guys religiously tracked and compiled. He flew by the seat of his pants to a large degree, and that was enough to keep him competitive and let him take the Grand Aggregate at the Nationals in '75, but never enough to keep him at the top of the leader board consistently. It would be fun to try to get back into it again, but I have neither the time, the money, nor the discipline to get serious about it.

  • @zdenkoplese665
    @zdenkoplese665 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gents thank you for info. Plenty of gems in there. Sharing knowledge is our legacy.

  • @mikebell611
    @mikebell611 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What book is under Speedy's left arm? Can You recommend any good rifle-smithing books?

  • @Moraprecisionreloader
    @Moraprecisionreloader ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just learn from the best there is!

  • @SteveWilliams-gw4rb
    @SteveWilliams-gw4rb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And us little grasshoppers thank you and hopefully continue the chain of accuracy to reach that level precision we all seek. Thank You!!

  • @dewaynesmith5755
    @dewaynesmith5755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Omg 😮 did I learn from thus, thank both of you. Please 🙏 keep it coming!!!

    • @ErikCortina
      @ErikCortina  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More to come!

  • @unknown_blank_blank_blank
    @unknown_blank_blank_blank ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I said the same thing Speedy said; specifically about two types of shooters. The social and the competitive.
    People didn't like that.
    But when you start second guessing relationships / careers / where you live regardless of family and friends because you want the prestige of being the top in the world... Yeah. There is a differenfce.

  • @TraditionalToolworks
    @TraditionalToolworks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to say, this is more of the funniest videos I've seen in quite some time. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and a hippie at heart, but I don't have long hair anymore. Hearing Speed say he was a hippie type made me laugh...in California we have always said for years that Texas would be a great place if it wasn't for the Texans...LOL To us it always seemed that Texans didn't like hippies, but maybe that's cause we were from California. The outlaw types are obviously hippie types, though, so what do I know...I have to admit I fit your and Speedy's sterotype of owning a lathe and planning to chamber with it, never done it before. I have bolts and blanks for 4 x 700 style actions. However, I don't plan to shoot competition, I primarily plan to hunt. I have 3 x PTG bolts for the actions.

  • @DavidOswalt-y9m
    @DavidOswalt-y9m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have change the spring on my 700 from stock, but where can I find that 24lb spring and retainer bushing kit you mentioned?

  • @repairfreak
    @repairfreak ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello,
    You guys have talked about Rem 700 actions being used in competition rifles. Question: have Win model 70 actions ever used in competition, or are they considered not as good?
    Thanks

    • @stephenbaker7499
      @stephenbaker7499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hello r,f... i have been saying that for years,the flat bottom of the recever to me makes WAYYY more sense! but we are liable to start a WAR with the 700 rem guys. that beeing said,,,i have 700's as well . my preference,will be the win -70 .

    • @repairfreak
      @repairfreak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenbaker7499 I honestly don’t know if they use other designs of actions, that’s why I asked. Just curious that’s all. I love my controlled round feed design of the Win Mod 70. I believe this to be a Mouser style action from what I know about them.
      Maybe there are competition class shooting rifles based on the Mouser/ Win style action?

  • @beefcakes27
    @beefcakes27 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Priceless education and getting to know you two a bit more.

  • @Six_One_Six
    @Six_One_Six 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If i won a championship, i'd tell you i use a hard steel brush on a drill to clean it, or that it's NEVER been cleaned, or that i use pure ammonia on a bronze brush every day. 🤣 "What's your winning secret?!" Bro i store my rifles under water...

  • @jwoodshed1108
    @jwoodshed1108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you again fellas. Got a few more little rid bits to add to my knowledge. I had came to all the same conclusions on tuners over the last 25 years. They work well if you know that you need to change them in differently conditions. I have not shot center fire in 20 years, but if I seat again I’ll have a tuner. Always have used them on rimfires.

  • @mikekopmanis2099
    @mikekopmanis2099 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video could be 1/3 as long if Eric would simply let Speedy talk and not argue with him after he makes a statement. Eric, I love ya, but let the man talk!

  • @Lucysdad66
    @Lucysdad66 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought a Browning a bolt years ago and it came with a tuner from the factory. I don't know why they still don't put them out My gun will shoot just under one inch at 200 yd and it's bone stock.

  • @ThomasShue
    @ThomasShue ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow , speedy needs his own channel

  • @tonydevich7937
    @tonydevich7937 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speedy and Erik are two stand up folks

  • @jasonhammonds2351
    @jasonhammonds2351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A close friend of mine that past away always talked about shooting against this man Bruce Bailey never could quite catch Speedy

  • @andrewwilliams1521
    @andrewwilliams1521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the homework 😂 I'm pretty sure my firing pin spring is coiled lol 17:47

  • @teo59
    @teo59 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    where can I find part 2?

  • @bpintogsxr1000
    @bpintogsxr1000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video

  • @tonyb8791
    @tonyb8791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BHOF is winning matches nothing else. The Boyer comment was really relevant.

  • @DadWil
    @DadWil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Barrel shot out sooner from not cleaning... Bolts and springs and consistent ignition... priceless stuff

  • @ryanromero9115
    @ryanromero9115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting, never thought about holding fixed and free recoil changing velosity. It makes sense the energy created is transfered in both direction if it is not absorbed in free recoil it must go somewhere.

  • @soonersteve3733
    @soonersteve3733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn! Got to logon the forum to see the rest. Won’t wait for 10k likes!!

  • @KaydenWestfall
    @KaydenWestfall 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thinks for sharing the things you know . I never thought that so much could affect a gun in the way they shoot . But it all makes sense . When you think about it

  • @toddb930
    @toddb930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now i wonder if the bolt in my BAT DS is working as well as it can.

  • @josephcoffman2441
    @josephcoffman2441 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Speedy needs to look up the definitions of precision and accuracy. He has them backward. Erik Cortina is 100% correct about Accuracy and Precision.

  • @teo59
    @teo59 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what a gem this video is, thanks erik!

  • @hepfarms9101
    @hepfarms9101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did Speedy blueprint the bolt and action he stole from me?

  • @jeffreywilson690
    @jeffreywilson690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is 3
    A meat hunter that understands bullets& bullets

  • @fritzbraunjr7866
    @fritzbraunjr7866 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great session (as usual)! Thanks to you both.

  • @tonydevich7937
    @tonydevich7937 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm so glad folks like these are around so we have a chance to learn something

  • @MrSharky58
    @MrSharky58 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was amazing, as a club competition shooter I have just learned so much. I had never even considered free recoil v shoulder pressure for vertical dispersion. Gentlemen thank you so much for the knowledge. I'm sure this one VLOG will serve me well over my next comps in Australia. Again, thank you. David

  • @long-range-eliminator
    @long-range-eliminator 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys need to do some videos on disk and sell them ! Bedding jobs, etc

  • @16BLasTeR
    @16BLasTeR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ALways a good watch when Speedy talks

  • @tonyb8791
    @tonyb8791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Speedy attitude is remarkable. Great smile.

  • @sadmazOR
    @sadmazOR ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Eric for making this videos & interviews, especially for Gordy Gritters, Speedy & Alex Wheeler. May be Keith Weil will talk to you ?

  • @bradchirdaris2190
    @bradchirdaris2190 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with Eric when he explained the difference between accuracy and precision. I think speedy has got it flipped

    • @chriscosby2459
      @chriscosby2459 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I worked some as a Quality Assurance Inspector. Erik is correct by the dictionary -- but in Benchrest it may be flipped in Speedy's way of thinking.

  • @taurusarcher
    @taurusarcher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how much something like this costs??
    I believe what they are saying due to a rifle I probably screwed up by taking the firing mechanism apart and 'cleaning' it. After reassmbly, that rifle never shot straight again....never thought about what I might have messed up. It was a Mauser 98 action too....which I wanted to keep. Ended up trading for a LH Rem 700 chambered in 270.

  • @randytolle6706
    @randytolle6706 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being a Industrial Process Instrument Guy. Precision is Repeatabilty. (Small Group Analogy.) Weigh scale example: 10 pound wieight on 2 different weigh scales. Scale # 1 reads 10.20, 9.90, 10.0, 10.10 and 9.85 Scale #2 Reads 9.71, 9.70, 9.70, 9.71 and 9,70 #1 is more accurate but #2 is more precise. When it come to calibration "If it is repeatable, it is adjustable to be both accurate and precise. (Accuracy Analogy is the position on target.)

  • @p47rr
    @p47rr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys are amazing. Wealth of knowledge. And humble. Thank you for sharing.

  • @robgustafson1539
    @robgustafson1539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    our learning curve gets better and better.

  • @kokonanana1
    @kokonanana1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ralph Stewart. My wife was tutored by Ralph. She has the dies and barrel chambered for the 30 Stewart. Mike Stinnett set the BR record with the 30 Stewart round. 0.0077 inch group. Also, John Miers helped her get her Robertson stock which she built up with a Stick Stark’s modified drop port Panda action. 6BR.

  • @judodavid1
    @judodavid1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the knowledge

  • @mistyrkool7625
    @mistyrkool7625 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've noticed Tony Boyers book, The Book of Rifle Accuracy, on Speedy's desk several times on these videos...

  • @Adamhawk1994
    @Adamhawk1994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come on Eric we need part 2!!!

  • @waynehendrix4806
    @waynehendrix4806 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great discussion! Thumbing up, and hoping you continue the series.
    From the robotic manufacturers I worked with, accuracy is placement, repeatability is a location repeated, and precision is having both tuned up on the wanted target at he same time. You'll never get a robotics guy to commit to accuracy or precision. They will only talk repeatability. The others are up to you. You probably have talked in CpK in manufacturing processes.

  • @MrBarbuster
    @MrBarbuster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    turned a 1$ rabbit into a 1000$ rabbit

  • @LindaGoodman-y1k
    @LindaGoodman-y1k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good thanks for it

  • @sautoter411
    @sautoter411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely fantastic

  • @ralphjones7240
    @ralphjones7240 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still use my Creighton audette measuring tool, your discussion was very informative.

  • @jerobb73
    @jerobb73 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come the boat tails wouldn’t stabilize in the 2 15 twist. But putting the tuners on made them stabilize?

  • @anthonybonavia2570
    @anthonybonavia2570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What calibers are used more frequently in F class?

    • @remington7009
      @remington7009 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      6mm dasher

    • @macgyver5108
      @macgyver5108 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Several flavors of 6mm that are "short/fat", besides just 6mm dasher.

    • @christosvaliotis7578
      @christosvaliotis7578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      284 win and variants, and recently 6.5-7 prc

  • @davecollins6113
    @davecollins6113 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always find it interesting when people discuss things I had ideas about, or experience with, at the time when I shot comps, and now am hearing some confirmation of, or am hearing it explained in a way that I didn't quite put together completely at the time, some of the why's that people have sorted out, that I had suspicions about. It all adds up, helps clear the picture a bit here and there.

  • @dragonflyfab9703
    @dragonflyfab9703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tuner dominance?

  • @canecutter77
    @canecutter77 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the gun or off the gun ... Dude's probably forgotten more than most will ever know.

  • @MrCclimeGo
    @MrCclimeGo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've seen this very thing, about the spring and never knew any better 🤦‍♂️

  • @olegsavelyev9949
    @olegsavelyev9949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!

  • @jimhudson9958
    @jimhudson9958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview!

  • @tonydevich7937
    @tonydevich7937 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool way to look at it

  • @blaiz4
    @blaiz4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What class these to . Thank you for everything