PROTO-ITALIC, CLASSICAL LATIN, MODERN ITALIAN
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PROTO-ITALIC by Glossologia
• Pater Nostere - The Lo...
is the ancestor of the Italic languages, most notably Latin and its descendants, the Romance languages. It is not directly attested in writing, but has been reconstructed to some degree through the comparative method. Proto-Italic descended from the earlier Proto-Indo-European language.
CLASSICAL LATIN by Latinum
• Latin The Lord's Praye...
is the form of Literary Latin recognized as a literary standard by writers of the late Roman Republic and early Roman Empire. It was used from 75 BC to the 3rd century AD, when it developed into Late Latin.
MODERN ITALIAN by Pietro :D
is a Romance language of the Indo-European language family that evolved from the Vulgar Latin of the Roman Empire. Together with Sardinian, Italian is the least divergent language from Latin.
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In case anyone is curious, seems like the last non-Latin Italic language to survive was Oscan which survived into the 1st century AD
Oscan writing was found in walls of Pompeii that were reconstructed after an earthquake in the year 62 - so written sometime between 62 and 79 (the year of the eruption) and probably was spoken for some more time after that
Yes, non Latin Italic languages might have survived for some time as second languages spoken in low social situations, ie at home or between family or friends, before ultimately dying out in the first centuries AD. It's a shame because they're incredibly cool languages, although them being very similar (at least from a grammatical standpoint) to Latin lead their speakers to adopt the latter ultimately leading these languages to extinction.
Also quite amazing how it borders Germanic in the /kw/ -> /p/ shift.
it has usrvived though dialects
The recording for Amen in Latin was different than the reciters voice 😂
yup. funny😊
He hit puberty
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holy fuck-a-molly 🤣🤣🤣
I noticed that, too 😅😊.
😂😂😂😂😂
Make one with:
Brazilian portuguese
Mozambican portuguese
Angolan portuguese
Timor portuguese
Europe portuguese
When your grandparent shows you the family shrine where you see your great-grandfather's photo:
Quando tuo nonno ti mostra il santuario di famiglia dove vedi la foto del tuo bisnonno:
Oddly enough, Archaic Latin (somewhere between Proto-Italic and Classical Latin) its verb conjugations are awfully similar to Spanish when it comes to the way it looks and tendency to use "o" rather than "u". And the Archaic-Latin words "duenos", "suepnos" and "suecer" look very close to Spanish "bueno", "sueño", and "suegro"
It may well be an example of peripheral dialects retaining a lot of archaisms lost in the ancestral language's more direct descendants.
@@ironhead2008Or coincidental forms, but evolved in various stages. Old Latin duenos > Plautus Latin bonos > Classical Latin bonus > Proto-Romance bwonus > Ibero-Romance bwono(s) > Spanish bueno
Modern Italian sounds the best. Proto Italian had a dental fricative. Unexpected.
Proto-Italic not Proto-Italian
What is a fricative?
@@cheerful_crop_circle A dental fricative is the 'th' sound in English.
In this video Italian is spoken by a native speaker. Classical Latin is not spoken by an Italian. It's probably spoken by a native English speaker which put on a Super Mario accent and exagerates the lenght of the long vowels. Classical Latin spoken by Italians in the TV series "Barbarians" sounds way better.
I speak as an Italian who knows both Italian and Latin very well, personally I prefer Latin to Italian since Latin is a pure inflectional language and this makes it more coherent in its grammatical rules.
Let me explain better, English is a purely analytical language, that is, it does not have any type of inflection, let's take an example, the phrase "I eat the bread" in Latin would be "Manduco panem" if you notice in English you had to use 4 words while in Latin only 2 this is because in English verbs are not conjugated and nouns are not declined, Italian is a strange language where verbs are conjugated while nouns are not declined, so the same sentence in Italian would be "Mangio il pane" and as you can see there are 3 words in Italian, it's something in between, which is why I prefer Latin much more.
Vulgar latin could perfectly be one of the many modern italian dialects/languages. I understood more than from someone speaking in venetian (I’m from Sicily)
Thank you so much, Andy! ❤
Great video from Italy!
Very interesting to see the evolution side-by-side like this!
Also, am I mistaken, or was there a video on Classical Latin that disappeared?
Another great video.
Excellent video Andy!!!! about the languages of Italy! Andy will you still make the video like you did of the languages of the Iberian peninsula? I mean you do with the languages of France, like French and Languedoc, Gascon, Gallo, the Walloon language, and Monegasque. I would love to see a video like this!! and I follow your Channel every day ! you are a person who helps in spreading some languages! and in the future you can also make a video of the languages of Italy
Do they speak the Walloon language in France?
@@markadams6497Yes! France and Belgium are neighbors and France also speaks Walloon, if you want you can Google it
Always love when demons do the voice overs
Proto-Italic seems better than Classical Latin because pronounced the nasal coda -m as /m/ (unlike the Classical Latin that pronounced -m after vowels as nasal vowel). Also, Proto-Italic vowels seems similar as Indonesian vowels (both have a, e, ə, i, o, u vowels but ə vowel is less frequent in Proto-Italic than Indonesian).
The coda m was pronounced in Classical Latin but some people minimize the enunciation of it. I still pronounce the final m coda because it sounds powerful.
@@guillermorivas7819 Sure, the languages that still pronounced the coda -m as /m/ is the most conservative phoneme traits in many languages (such as Indonesian, Arabic, Malay, Hokkien, Cantonese, Russian, English, Korean etc.).
Despite English orthography look unphonetic mess, but still have nasal coda -m in many words.
I'm not Italian (I'm a African-American lady) I like how all 3 languages sounds like 🎵🎶 to my ears 👂🏽
Incredibile linguages! io desira plus videos in linguages ancestre!
Could you do one comparing classical and ecclesiastical latin?
Good video! I also made my own Vulgar latin.
please, I request Avesta vs old Persian vs middle Persian vs modern Persian
I’d love to see a French vs Italian or French be Vulgar Latin
Comparation between proto Italic and anche ancient greek?
THat latin was flawless pronounciation! Rarity in todays world
JUPITER BLESS THE SPEAKERS!
That was Luke Ranieri reading those numbers! lol
i recognised him too!
I would have preferred him recitating the Pater Noster, too.
Hey Andy if you'd like I could do the same format but for the Nuorese Sardinian numbers and words :D just write to me if you want!
Yes! Please send me an email. otipeps24@gmail.com
That's Proto-Italic and Latin with Finnish accents! :D
Please Milanese&Napolitano🙏🙏🙏
It is interesting how similar is Proto-Italic language to Slovenian language.
Don't make up some strange theories
@@enoppp167But they are both Indo-European
Never and nope totally adverses no way.
it isnt. im from the area, and ofc it isnt
@@lil_weasel219 I am from the area so I can tell you that they are similar.
I'm so mature that 6 in latin made me die
It made you day??? 😳😳
Buff doge Vs buff cheems Vs regular cheems
When was proto italian spoken?
Around 1500-1000 BCE, more or less
Overall, proto italic sounds just like another romance language
Proto Italian seems quite close to ancient Greek
How so?
You can tell they didn't yet eat pepperoni pizza in the proto-Italic days
Do Proto Germanic, old high German, Middle High German, and modern standard German.
To my ear, Italian is a much more pleasant sounding language than Proto-Italic and Latin. 😊🇮🇹🇨🇦
On the internet, you hear a lot of classical latin spoken by northern and eastern europeans. Ecclesiastical latin spoken by italians sounds much better.
Sound much better.... to you!
That is because Italian is an artificial language
Latin sound better to my ears
with Pater Noster was better to use the ecclesiastic latin instead of the classic one
proto italic actually sounds kind of greek at times
Proto Italic: Greek
Latin: Spanish with French accent
Nipponic Latin??
What?
@@nyko921 the reader has a "nipponic" accent
@@kaiosousafreitastorres870 That's because Latin was a language with a musical accent like Japanese.
@@mattiav3130 are you sure about it?? No surviving Latinic language has this kind of pronounce
@@kaiosousafreitastorres870 Language Just evolve over millennia. I think the change started in Latin with the loss of distinctions between long vowels and short vowels.
the latin speaker pronounces things in a somewhat exaggerated manner compared to what i expected for latin
thats one strong german accent on the classical latin
gwenjad should be adgwenad or at least Ad Gwenjad otherwise it doesn't show the origins of the phrase right...also I just don't know how I feel about the "Gw-" sound reconstruction...seems like it is just trying to account for the "Kw-" and "Ga-" sounds in the Nordic (Proto Germanic, Proto Balto-Slavic, and Proto Celtic) and Aryan (Proto Indo-Iranian) languages respectively as if they do truly share origins in the way that the supposed Indo-European model suggests.
if kw and ga are consistent, then common origin seems to be the only reason about it
Like italian person i love this languages....but the latin pronunciation is too much formal in my opinion......i dont like it very much......
Why is the latin pronounciation so weird? My latin teacher never spoke like that (æ and œ is pronounced e ppl)
It's the Classical Pronunciation. Like v in Latin wasn't pronounced as the v sound we know today, it was the w sound.
@@gtc239 in latin V had two sounda the "u" and the "v" soubds (not the weird english you sound but the oo)
@@gtc239 like one letter (V) two sounds
@@RodiniaAI know about V representing the vowel /u/ and the consonant /w/, but the consonant that was represented with the letter V wasn't the strong fricative sound we know, it's the regular /w/ sound. (As in English "wait")
@@gtc239 I know it was said exactly like the Romanian "u"
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