Batman: Year Two was made almost simultaneously with Year One. In fact, Alan Davis departed from DC because his cover for the issue was redrawn to fit with the yet-to-be-released art from Year One (specifically the gun). The first issue of Year Two came out a month after the final issue of Year One, but there was at least some initial discussion with Denny O'Neil about releasing the stories simultaneously. As Year Two ran in Detective Comics, the Batman comic shifted from Year One to the new Jason Todd origin story. These three story arcs established the new continuity for Batman after the Crisis. Oh, and the previous issue (Detective Comics 574, which came out the same month as the last issue of Year One) establishes the relationship between Bruce and Leslie in post-Crisis continuity. In the pre-Crisis timeline, Leslie was a social worker, and she was unaware that Bruce was Batman. Barr revises the story so that Leslie was Bruce's legal guardian after his parents' death, and she is now a doctor working in Crime Alley. Bruce takes Jason Todd to her after the Mad Hatter shoots Robin in the previous issue, and much of the issue is a flashback that helps to establish Bruce's reworked backstory.
For issue four, I think I saw an interview with McFarlane where he said that this was the issue he stopped penciling and went straight to inking for speed.
Dr. Tompkins also appeared in season 1 ep. 16 of Batman The Animated Series. Also, McFarlane modeled Bruce after himself but his girlfriend is 100% his wife Wanda.
I copied that cemetery shot so many times when I was younger. I remember even doing one on 11x16 paper and had it folded in half for storage. I still have the trade of the story among my TPB collection.
Hi, does anyone knows why Alan Davis left the Series just at this moment when Years two starts, especially after doing the first issue, I would have loved to see him finish that story !!!
This story is online, but basically he was being courted by Claremont for XMen and he was pissed he had to redraw Joe Chill’s gun. So love from a marvel and editorial problems with DC
Ah yes, the comic Mask of the Phantasm was loosely based on. And there's a storyline from Legends of the Dark Knight titled "Faith", where one of the sideplots is Dr. Tompkins really hating Batman but ending up somewhat fine with it after she finds out it's Bruce. I guess that story took place before this one despite having been published later in '91.
Showing my age when I say I was a heavy-duty comic book geek just around the time when DC had its all-too-brief renaissance in the mid-1980s, when for about two to three years between 1984-85 to 1987-88 it seemed like everything they touched turned to gold. Crisis, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, the reboots of Wonder Woman, Superman, Flash, Green Arrow, the introduction of The Question and Captain Atom to the DCU...and of course Dark Knight and Batman: Year One...and then I eagerly bought Batman: Year Two. And I felt ashamed and upset. To this DC fanatic, this storyline felt like a descration of the Batman mythos they had worked so hard to build. "The Reaper" was a character created especially to kill Joe Chill because Batman couldn't kill. I actually went back to the comic book store and bought a second copy of the final part of this story, especially so I could tear it up right there at the store counter. Yes, I was that much of a naive fanboy. :P Little did I know what was coming from DC and Marvel and everyone else...namely, the "grim and gritty" era. But at that time I felt Mike W. Barr to be a hack, and this proved it to me more than anything else at the time. In the years since then I've grown up...sort of...and I've realized there are many writers out there who are far worse than Mike W. Barr. But even so "Year Two" still seems like a cheap cop-out.
I always thought that 'Mask Of the Phantasm" was based off of this 'Year Two' storyline...... Surprised they didn't at least mention the similarities in the video
Seeing these books always reminds me of the 'Bob Kane' Lithographs that came out soon after. Kane, or I guess someone connected to him ripped McFarlane poses from these books. www.syfy.com/syfywire/time-batmans-creator-ripped-drawing-spawns-creator
Yeah love the changes the movie made. The daughter being the villain was a great twist. And their relationship was much better explored. The movie definitely did a better job with showing the passing of time. And having Joker and teasing a possible origin for him too was a great add to the story.
Isn't this issue the one where they changed the gun type, on the cover, because DC asked? Great video, btw, loved soo much that story when I was a kid.
Whaaaat!!!! You guys missed the Akira reference on 30:00!!! This was my favorite comic growing up. I used some of the fight scenes for a Bruce Lee comic I made in 7th grade. Then I noticed the similar style of McFarlane and was blown away. After I realized that scene is straight from Akira when Tetsuo kills Yamagata.
Are all of the backgrounds SUPPOSED to be the SAME colour, and some are just more faded than others? Or did each cover originally use a slightly different shade of orange?
This isn't even in the same universe of quality as Year One. It's still an ok batman story from the 80s. During that era, even a bad batman story was pretty decent lol
Davis felt he was not being taken into account by DC and at the same time Claremont tempted him to draw the X MEN. But Davis was committed to drawing Year 2 with Barr's scripts. Barr wanted the pistol to stand out and suggested a Mauser. But after the first issue was finished, they realized that the weapon was very different from the one seen in Year 1. They asked Davis to change the design of the gun, but he refused and went to Marvel. www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-498/
Batman: Year Two was made almost simultaneously with Year One. In fact, Alan Davis departed from DC because his cover for the issue was redrawn to fit with the yet-to-be-released art from Year One (specifically the gun). The first issue of Year Two came out a month after the final issue of Year One, but there was at least some initial discussion with Denny O'Neil about releasing the stories simultaneously. As Year Two ran in Detective Comics, the Batman comic shifted from Year One to the new Jason Todd origin story. These three story arcs established the new continuity for Batman after the Crisis.
Oh, and the previous issue (Detective Comics 574, which came out the same month as the last issue of Year One) establishes the relationship between Bruce and Leslie in post-Crisis continuity. In the pre-Crisis timeline, Leslie was a social worker, and she was unaware that Bruce was Batman. Barr revises the story so that Leslie was Bruce's legal guardian after his parents' death, and she is now a doctor working in Crime Alley. Bruce takes Jason Todd to her after the Mad Hatter shoots Robin in the previous issue, and much of the issue is a flashback that helps to establish Bruce's reworked backstory.
For issue four, I think I saw an interview with McFarlane where he said that this was the issue he stopped penciling and went straight to inking for speed.
Dr. Tompkins also appeared in season 1 ep. 16 of Batman The Animated Series.
Also, McFarlane modeled Bruce after himself but his girlfriend is 100% his wife Wanda.
at 16:05 you pass by an ad for Mike Grell's Green Arrow mini - The Longbow Hunters. Would love to see you guys dive into that mini!
The panel where the reaper takes out Joe Chill is a very direct homage to a scene from Akira.
What you don't want to draw is BOOSTER GOLD!! 🤣🤣🤣
I copied that cemetery shot so many times when I was younger. I remember even doing one on 11x16 paper and had it folded in half for storage. I still have the trade of the story among my TPB collection.
Hi, does anyone knows why Alan Davis left the Series just at this moment when Years two starts, especially after doing the first issue, I would have loved to see him finish that story !!!
This story is online, but basically he was being courted by Claremont for XMen and he was pissed he had to redraw Joe Chill’s gun. So love from a marvel and editorial problems with DC
@@kevink4931 right! I've the book too, very interesting
Ah yes, the comic Mask of the Phantasm was loosely based on.
And there's a storyline from Legends of the Dark Knight titled "Faith", where one of the sideplots is Dr. Tompkins really hating Batman but ending up somewhat fine with it after she finds out it's Bruce. I guess that story took place before this one despite having been published later in '91.
This channel deserves WAY more subs. Just delightful stuff.
Showing my age when I say I was a heavy-duty comic book geek just around the time when DC had its all-too-brief renaissance in the mid-1980s, when for about two to three years between 1984-85 to 1987-88 it seemed like everything they touched turned to gold. Crisis, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, the reboots of Wonder Woman, Superman, Flash, Green Arrow, the introduction of The Question and Captain Atom to the DCU...and of course Dark Knight and Batman: Year One...and then I eagerly bought Batman: Year Two. And I felt ashamed and upset. To this DC fanatic, this storyline felt like a descration of the Batman mythos they had worked so hard to build. "The Reaper" was a character created especially to kill Joe Chill because Batman couldn't kill. I actually went back to the comic book store and bought a second copy of the final part of this story, especially so I could tear it up right there at the store counter. Yes, I was that much of a naive fanboy. :P Little did I know what was coming from DC and Marvel and everyone else...namely, the "grim and gritty" era. But at that time I felt Mike W. Barr to be a hack, and this proved it to me more than anything else at the time. In the years since then I've grown up...sort of...and I've realized there are many writers out there who are far worse than Mike W. Barr. But even so "Year Two" still seems like a cheap cop-out.
Street angel is on comiXology!!!!!
Reaper looks like a proto-Spawn to me.
9:58 Reminds me of Red Death from The Venture Bros.
Alfred's got mopping to do LOL
uh, did these guys get royalties for this character being THE PHANTASM?
They did get a writers credit so I believe they would have to get some royalty based on that.
No. Mike Barr has noted that he was cheated out of credit by the makers of Mask of the Phantasm.
I always thought that 'Mask Of the Phantasm" was based off of this 'Year Two' storyline...... Surprised they didn't at least mention the similarities in the video
I believe the Toy Galaxy channel mentions the Year Two connection to 'Batman Mask of the Phantasm' in a history of video.
Seeing these books always reminds me of the 'Bob Kane' Lithographs that came out soon after. Kane, or I guess someone connected to him ripped McFarlane poses from these books. www.syfy.com/syfywire/time-batmans-creator-ripped-drawing-spawns-creator
Loved this story and art, also I can see alot of this story heavily inspired Mask of the Phantasm.
This is the inspiration for Mask of the Phantasm. Right?
Yeah love the changes the movie made. The daughter being the villain was a great twist. And their relationship was much better explored. The movie definitely did a better job with showing the passing of time. And having Joker and teasing a possible origin for him too was a great add to the story.
Isn't this issue the one where they changed the gun type, on the cover, because DC asked? Great video, btw, loved soo much that story when I was a kid.
I'm missing PART 4 of this series. BEAUTIFUL BOOKS!
Whaaaat!!!! You guys missed the Akira reference on 30:00!!! This was my favorite comic growing up. I used some of the fight scenes for a Bruce Lee comic I made in 7th grade. Then I noticed the similar style of McFarlane and was blown away. After I realized that scene is straight from Akira when Tetsuo kills Yamagata.
It was confusing at times, but I was a kid didn’t know any better. Just thought comics are cool.
I wish Todd had stayed a little longer and had done Joker and Two Face stories.
@10:11 I love that panel and the reapers design
I never really appreciated the art, but I see that they .. like digitally remastered it in the DC universe app, so ima check it out again..
I read this as a kid. Totally sick!
I have those issues.👍🏻
Love that Bonkers! Ugly balls ad. Havent seen that in forever.
I’ve got the singles of this. That’s all I remember about it 😹
It is unfortunately that Alan Davis didn't draw YEAR TWO in its entirety.
That issue 3 is the sweet spot as far as artwork alcala and mcfarlane killed that whole issue.
I think the punisher is the one to take down the red room bad guys.
Are all of the backgrounds SUPPOSED to be the SAME colour, and some are just more faded than others? Or did each cover originally use a slightly different shade of orange?
I dig that the tone becomes a darker shade with each issue no idea if that's intentional or not though.
This isn't even in the same universe of quality as Year One. It's still an ok batman story from the 80s. During that era, even a bad batman story was pretty decent lol
really cool
I'd be willing to bet Davis was running late and McFarlane was in the right place at the right time to take over
Davis felt he was not being taken into account by DC and at the same time Claremont tempted him to draw the X MEN. But Davis was committed to drawing Year 2 with Barr's scripts. Barr wanted the pistol to stand out and suggested a Mauser. But after the first issue was finished, they realized that the weapon was very different from the one seen in Year 1. They asked Davis to change the design of the gun, but he refused and went to Marvel.
www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-498/
@@markshadows3667 They asked Davis to change the design of the gun, but he refused and went to Marvel
Oh...that title was misleading. I was up in joy like a little kid to see Todd drawing batman and then it's just the comic review.