The fact that Songbird basically collapses when V says, "Could've told me the truth. I would've helped anyway." Must've been like a knife to the heart.
Yep, I sided with Reed first cuz I didn't trust her at first then saw her falshbacks and its tragic. She has to lie to survive but still she lies. So when siding with her I was as nice as possible and guilt tripped her into the moon.
I just realized how this DLC just makes Johnny and V relationship become more friend at arms Especially when Johnny Calls you Vincent/Valeria Because The only one who know V could call him/her V real name
@@MuteObserver You only get that dialogue if u got good bond with Johnny before doing that ending. Many ppl who rushed expansion too fast didnt get his (and others sidequests) done
She was like a caged bird, driven to the edge of cliff because she wanted so desperately to escape everything. I think name fits her perfectly. But man, that shuttle scene is branded in my memory. This game has some of the best stories ever written.
@@fleko8889 At that point you had already killed Reed and the NUSA wanted to see your head served up on a plate. Meaning that the deal with them had already burned to ashes. So there’s no need for Johnny to pretend. Whether he praised or told you that you made the worst decision ever wouldn’t have made a difference in anything.
Nah, he hate NUSA because he know that they're doing bad things, all of them are scumbags, even Alex admit that when she says that nobody could be trusted. Johnny hate the fact that you trade your life for Songbird in the new ending easily like that, it's a pussy ending after all, you don't acommplish anything besides staying alive. You're not a legend like V and Jackie dreamed in the beginning of the game and don't even try to do the only thing that Johnny asked for you to do, that is killing Adam Smasher. @@fleko8889
@fleko8889 you that's not true. You only find out it will destroy him after this and even then he himself says he thought they would shelve him or you'd put him on the net
Jesus... I had literal goosebumps when she summoned blackwall. Its the most amazing and mesmerizing thing, like literally wildest AI beasts waiting to shred through humanity and use it as slaves
The Blackwall is and I love it. The thing is an AI so it's intelligent. It's this godlike thing that is keeping wild demons at bay, but at the same time has no love for humanity. It's just doing what it was created to do. But it's an AI. It Evolves. It learns. Think about that.
The Black Wall was the old ‘net, the one barrier keeping any poor bastard from frying themselves, their chrome, their entire soul. If V can direct that like a weapon, they’re practically a god.
Unless you are one of the people who don't have even a single implant. (It's telling that two, three if you count Viktor, ripperdocs don't have any implant).
What with the Lilith AI being summoned from beyond the blackwall with that one cyberpsycho quest and then this whole storyline with Song, I really, REALLY hope the next cyberpunk game has a main character that is somehow involved with the blackwall and AI beyond it. When I played through this scene I was in awe, it gave me chills. This was a moment where everything passed from science into something that felt truly supernatural. The Blackwall and the net is my favorite thing about Cyberpunk and I really want more of it.
I love that Phantom Liberty showed us just how terrifying and dangerous AIs beyond the Blackwall are. There were moments where it almost felt like a horror game.
@@ralalbatross Yeah. I want the NUSA to be bigger in the next game and I want Meyers actions with Song to be the Catalyst for not only another war starting to happen, but due to the actions of the corps and the NUSA the Blackwall finally goes rogue. That would be an interesting game.
@@ralalbatross Sorry for the double reply, but I forgot to mention how it could be wild with the rogue daemons popping up since everyone and anyone might get hollowed out and turn into something like the Lilith cyberpsycho in 2077.
And if you close your eyes, you can pretend that use of those upgrades is why the biochip changed so much of V before Alt Cunningham could disentangle V and Johnny
@@grimsquad273 > use Blackwall quickhack, 1 shot Adam > use basic CM + SC combo, 1 shot Adam "Clearly the problem is players having too much OP stuff. Just cripple yourself to balance the final boss bro. I am very smart" Please seek professional help immediately.
@@Sobasicallyandthenprettymuchye look up to the right of SongBird's head, he was standing on the balcony above all the fire, it goes by so fast between 2:47 and the beginning of 2:48
best ending imo especially if you do the dont fear the reaper ending. V more or less comes to terms with their fate and decides to spare someone else from theirs. They couldnt beat the system but maybe somi will
Hate to poop on the parade but if Blue Eyes is who everyone thinks he is, So Mi is more screwed than she was with the NUSA. Basically So Mi(and by Proxy V's) survival hinges on whether or not the Blue Eyed people can be trusted, in the tabletop lore they're said to control politicians(as shown with Peralez) so whatever they want with V and SoMi is NOT benevolent
@@manamoriSave songbird,put Reed to rest,keep Alex alive cause she freakin dies if you along with Reed's plan,and then try to save yourself with Crystal palace raid :D
This ending was the one I ended up with and it makes sense. Johnny and V influenced each other so much, taught each other a shit ton and changed each other for the better and worse. This ending lets Songbird have a chance, and saves Alex in the process. In a way, it saves Reed too - because he was so tangled up in the Nusa shit and his own principles he was only leading himself into the same problem So Mi had. Being used for others benefits whether it meant his life or someone elses. V walks away empty handed of course, but at the same time, I feel like Johnny and V had been together so long, they were almost the same person at that point. My version of V wouldnt have sold out or murdered my way to the cure to erase Johnny as if we didn't go through some of the hardest and dumbest shit together. While I agree the ending where you do get the cure is heart wreching and really well written. I dont know, I jsut felt like this is the way V would have handled shit. Especially witb the influence of silverhand lingering around. V would have wanted saved everyone, and Silverhand didnt want to go. They achieved that.
I also hated the ending cure tbh. I was after Judy and V staying together, and the DLC kinda shit on that with the cure ending. So I"ve opted for this one instead, Judy and V relationship or not went through everything just like V and Jackie did. and I didn't like the idea that Judy basically doesn't give a care for u in the ending it had for V relating to the Cure.
You say you're unwilling to murder for the cure but that's exactly what you do in EVERY ending. If you raid Saka with ANYBODY including Saka themselves, the blood of hundreds if not BILLIONS due to the wider scope of consequences is on V's hands.
I think that's the idea. The Rogue AI on the other side are literally called Daemons. It's a cool sci-fi way of recreating Demon Summoning. V is basically a possessed anti-christ in this moment
This game had THAT MOMENT. That moment when Daniel used his telekinesis to destroy the police blockade. That moment when Alicia turned into a Valkyria and crushed the Imperial Army That moment when you unleashed a horrifying power on people that could literally do nothing to stop you.
My preferred ending tbh, not just because I sympathize with Song as a character, but what it means for her. Does it matter that she wasn't completely honest with V about the neural matrix? Sure, it kinda hurts, but at that point the matrix is her only chance of getting a "second chance" as she called it. She can't storm Arasaka, she has no access to Mikoshi, or Alt. V has all those options, so it made sense to me to free her life from NUSA, and Meyers specifically. To put it as simply as possible, our girl got tired of being used by a corp (in this case, by Myers) to access beyond blackwall for personal gain (game makes sure to mention it multiple times), to Song's own deterriment. That kind of desperation is understandable, and familiar to V. So, to me, it only made sense to help Song possibly get her life back.
As much as the lie stings, in the end Songbird chose to tell the truth when she absolutely could have fooled V to the end. Confessing just before passing out was the worst possible move a cold-blooded manipulator could make, which proves that she's more than that. That's the detail that won me over and made me protect her.
also doesn't help that giving the NUSA (which is just Militech pretending it's the USA) unrestrained access to whatever is beyond the blackwall is a horrible idea for the rest of humanity
@@imshailThat's the funniest part. Freeing Song means giving him over to Blue Eye. Blue Eye is linked to both rogue AI and Militech. That's made evident by how he uses Peralez as a front, whom is the NUSA candidate for NC. You also spot old militech tech during Dream On. You might even argue that MBE is a result of Project cynosure. There's absolutely no winning move in the DLC, except perhaps killing Song. But even in that case you give back the neural matrix, a rogue AI, to Militech. There is a nice parallel between Song being used by MBE in Fatal Moon and V being used by MBE after The Sun ; with both being sent in space.
Honestly, worse than death and even suicide ending imo. Not only being npc, but also to see your ideals crumble in night City and corpos still take up, so i'd prefer to at least save songbird from president as she wants than that
I think the DLC canonically power scales V even more. And makes her scarier. Like, Songbird basically collapses after interacting with the Blackwall, while V manages to power through it enough to still be able to fight (think to the duel at the end...if yk yk). And remember this ain't no run of the mill netrunner either, its arguably the best netrunner NUSA has. V is canonically the strongest merc to have ever walked Night City.
But on the other hand, So Mi was so devastated after so many encounters that maybe she's just so weak after hundreds of times doing it and V does it for the very first tims
yeah but somi had been entangled with that fuckery for years. there's a few dialogues and text pieces reporting that her behavior had been changing, that she was starting to crack (that's why she hatched that whole plan with Hansen, cos she knew Myers had no problem using her until death and beyond). and even after that certain exhaustion she was experiencing, she still managed to hack the entire dogtown stadium and the whole fucking spaceport. And, imo, its technically wrong to mention V as a singular independent individual.. V died to Dex, the legendary unkillable merc is actually the fusion between hers and johnny's conscience, that gets progressively stronger as the biochip spreads further into V's brain. V without johnny couldn't survive that long, its NC's nature. she would've went just like David did. (that's a lesson on nature i guess.. johhny's construct is an anomaly. immortality shouldn't exist).
This mixture of feeling hopeless and being overpowered in this final journey gave me chills. I haven't remembered such a good ending since Mass Effect 3.
The way she wanted to escape, wanted to go the moon so bad it reminds me so much of Lucy from Edgerunner. From this moment alone, i decided to save Songbird no matter what even if V didn't get her cure, even if Reed was being honest with us from day one.
I always thought that "don't fear the reaper" is the proper way to go out with a boom, solving problems by yourself. so I agreed to help her without any expectations for a cure. Yet for a brief moment I was tiny bit bummed. But not about the lack of cure, rather her lying to V. So it is understandable if some were disappointed in her. But looking back to interactions with So Mi, it was obvious she deeply regrets on the inside for lying, sometimes lashing out on V for it as she feels tormented by his/her kind and honest responses, and optimism where V says He/She trusts her, or moments where So Mi is mutely shaking her head when V talks about cure. I couldn't be mad at her because she didn't lie out of spite or with the intention of hurting V, and I agreed with Johnny that her determination to commit acts she herself did not like to do, commanded some respect. Probably that's why I choosed the same "Would've helped you anyway" line. So Mi saw herself when she learned about V, the only kindred spirit with the same or even stronger determination than her, probably partly why she contacted V in the first place too: respect. My theory is that the only thing she did not expect is to get attached to V, seeing more in common than just strongwill and building further up the already present guilt in herself. Also V was the only "real" person she could talk to about her hardships and past, (especially while Kurt and his men were breathing on her neck daily) unlike Myers or the loyal dogs of the FIA like Reed, who was unwilling to put So Mi above his duty (he was the same as Takemura) I really liked this ending.
The parallels between Song Bird = V, Reed = Takemura, and NSUA = Arasaka. Song Bird i s a version of V that has nothing and no one. Can't be mad at Song Bird who is trying to survive, who has kept secrets her whole life and worked as an agent. Reed on the other hand is another hound for NSUA. No matter what they do to him, mark him for death, screw him over, use him, he will always serve because the NSUA is all he knows and will ever know. Sounds familiar, don't you think? Takemura was the same exact way. When you take down Arasaka while Takemura is alive, he vows to take revenge on V. Selling Song Bird is the equivalent of turning V in to Arasaka. Even going through with Reed's ending is the same as Arasaka. They "help you", but all they do is damn you and Johnny. Reed cannot be trusted and neither myers. Considering Reed "took care" of jacob and his friend to tie up loose ends should be a red flag. It's funny to se Mr. Hands being the only upstanding guy in this mess. Blue Eyes is truly V's only hope, and I know he is going to play a big role in the next cyberpunk with the black wall (as most dlcs are teasers for the next installment).
My game glitched and the black wall was literally making my game run at less than 1 frame per second. It was super trippy. It took like five minutes to walk to the train
I just beat Phantom Liberty for the first time a few days ago. Got this ending and made a lot of the same choices you did. Still reeling from the whole thing. But I just realized! I shot Reed in the head, and he just fell over, no last words. I had no idea he would have different animations/dialogue when you shoot him the chest. Truly amazing.
Also, a few days after sending our girl to the moon you get a message from her with some interesting stuff she sent you back to NC, including lunar dust, a metal souvenir Tycho pin and a piece of cyberware. Which was nice to see, because the endng kinda fucked me up emotionally.
never really realized how dangerous cyberpsace beyond the Black Wall actually was until this dlc. Even in the base game when you meet Alt, it seemed just another day in Night City, but after this dlc it re contextualized the whole scene, and i absolutely love it.
Up until this point, this DLC, the only two legit moments of horror i've seen were related to AI. First is "possessed" cyberpsycho from Maelstrom, and the second is that scene where you get contacted by blue-eyed AI people before talking to the politician in the side-quest. And now we can see Blackwall in all it's horrifying glory. The game has always been kind gruesome, dismemberment and other things included. But, until this time, there were no cases of someone dying on screen while inducing sheer horror of their agony. Blackwall Gateway does look like that, the worst way to go.
Echoing, reverberating and distorted screams of death and agony, as V's very perception of afflicted targets and reality around them twists and turns, as if being ripped apart by forces beyond your comprehension. I've been wanting to see things like this the moment i've did a dive into Cyberpunk (ttrp and videogame) lore. This was done as close to ideal as possible, i think..
Handing over Songbird to Nusa is like handing over your soul and principles to the devil. You get to "live" but lose everything dear to you in exchange.
@@vendetta3941Reed is like Takemura. They talk about loyalty, principles, honor but all these start and begin when their duty comes in. He knows what they did to Songbird yet he still wants to hand her over to the FIA. If he truly cared about her well-being he would encourage us to set her free instead of turning her into a puppet so the president can keep running her sick experiments on the Blackwell through her. People like him are just pussies that that tie up their morals to some regime because they are too weak to stand up for their own. And then he even plays the regret card on you “oh i should have done more for you and So Mi” well a little bit too late for that.
@@vendetta3941 Nope , NUA basically use song bird skills like prisioner to do all dirty works for political gain. She just wants to live free away from all corpo bull shit
One of the best sequences in gaming ever. Amazing end to an amazing DLC. And man, the expression on her face at the start of the clip is heart-breaking, doesn't even say anything there but makes you feel so much emotion.
This mission was one of my favourite missions in a game in years. So much so, it's one that I feel sad I won't be able to experience for the first time again, but boy, what a fucking ride it was.
There is a way. You can find a Iconic Operating System that has no Buffs except a One of a kind Quickhack. You will find that Hack very familiar. In the same place you can gain access to a Unique Smart Gun with similar powers.
Well you can get the Cyperware that makes you use the blackwall powers (and it talks to you, trying to lure you like Song) if So ends up in the bunker.
I want the next Cyberpunk game to revolve around the Blackwall. The way Song describes the Blackwall it's as if it's stalking her and whispering to her. It's an AI, it's intelligent. I want to have the ability to start with whatever backgrounds but somehow the character ends up getting involved with the Blackwall. It would give off akira vibes.
Doing the Arasaka ending gives you a taste of what So Mi experience was like with Militech. She never knew what it was like to trust others. So mi was very lucky to have V helping her because I believe that V canonically cares about his friends and people close to him or her. independent of lifepath V would help So Mi live even knowing the truth.
It actually makes sense to send song to the moon and then do the blue eyes ending that sends you to the moon also for the next game. Imagine the shit you'll get upto taking down the corpos with song, V and Lucy
CDPR has shown us magical horrors beyond our reckoning but this is the moment that science fiction horror and magical horror blur. V unleashing the daemons of the black wall in hellish bolts of lightning like a possessed witch, burning people from the inside out in a twisted omage to raiders of the lost arc just fills you with an indescribable dread and horror. It makes you feel the shear power of the black wall AI’s and understand the hell that humanity has built for itself out of circuits and code. Not even the magical creatures of the witcher can compare to this.
Having played all of the endings in the base game and also watching the Cyberpunk Anime. I knew it wouldn't end well. But when this moment happened and we were able to wield BLACKWALL hacks to obliterate people- that's about as much of a happy ending as you can get. Everything after that was just falling action.
Actually sided with Reed when I played through it. I'll be damned, the super spy everyone calls a liar has been straight with me the entire story whil song was stringing me up all along.
He is indeed honest, but the idea that NUSA will actually help Song is in reality a lie. He is so blinded by duty and only realizes that V was right about Song once its too late if you side with Reed. Its not black and white and I really appreciate a narrative such as this. If Reed was honest with himself he would have abandoned Myers a long time ago as he was present at the time that Song was losing his memory even witnessing a moment where Song could not recognize Reed in the past after returning from the Blackwall. In the end its all up to the players own moral code to decide what's right in the moment.
@@jingsterling personally the way i weighed my options is 'songbird played me, reed didn't. songbird was willing to condemn the entire stadium to death for herself whereas i'm not.' worse is if you save songbird, she confesses that there was no cure left for you to begin with. at first i was conflicted with my choice in siding with reed, but after that reveal, i was 100% confident i made the right choice helping reed. other than that it's also fitting for the rp i'm doing. corpo v was played by arasaka, then dex. the way i envision v is someone who's unwilling to get played a third time and does not take kindly to people who try to do so.
@@bottomleftoand now you become played by militech, congrats. Some people will never learn, lel. You never, NEVER TRUST ANY CORP IN ANY WAY. NUSA = militech, so you just give them WMD that might bring fucking apocalypse in the most literal sense. Song personality will be wiped out and what is left will be used for militech plans behind the blackwall. Untold thousands, if not millions, of people will dle in the future because you return So Mi to this sick fucks. There is only two “good” endings in a “greater good” sence: sendingSo Mi to the moon or killing her.
@bottomlefto oh no the stadium full of criminals. And you did get played by siding with Reed. Can't help you figure that one out, but glad your v is a corpo shill and NUSA tool now.
I genuinely think the Blackwall Pulse scene is the best action scene in the game with it's engagement grip straight up equaling the best of the game's finales. I can't stress how hopeless they made all of this feel. You're giving it everything you've got to escape the FIA but as the mission goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that you won't make it out of this. Then with the greatest horror known to humankind, you're able to shift the tables enough to win. Every single second felt weighted and impactful like I had no idea what would happen next. Yeah, 100% greatest game ever made.
It's so difficult for me to choose the Reed's side because of all this. Yeh, she did lie to you and betray your trust. But even though both V and her are in a similar situation where they are barely holding on to life with a passenger in our heads, the massive difference is that while we have a loveable jackass of a rockerboy, she got herself the cyber equivalent of eldritch horrors. And she is effing scared of that. So yeh even if they have the same issue the difference are based on magnitudes.
That mission/end...I love it. It was so sad, but the most emotional mission for me in Cyberpunk 2077. So glad I decided to play the game once more with Phantom Liberty.
Ngl i simped hard for songbird. It really felt like her and V were kindred spirits (I played Corpo so V and So Mi were both used and abused by the system). This scene was easily my favorite traversing the blackwall together and having the power of a cybergod. I think my V went into cyberpsychosis during this so it was like the point of no return
I was so torn between picking Reed or Songbird that I googled which choice was better and I kept seeing that picking Reed gave you better loot but it didn’t feel right to me. My V would never turn on Songbird. I thought I’d get a less cool ending and was so blown away by this.
The gameplay in this section is so much better than running away from the stupid instakill bot But the emotional damage inflicted by seeing her memories and having to mercy kill Songbird in Reed's path is much more effective I do like this ending for Songbird though, yeah she was clearly lying but she did what she had to do to survive On my first run i went with Reed cause I thought "well she's clearly evil, she's too nice and helpful, I know how stories work" and by the end of it I was screaming "no game stop she's not evil, I get it, I was wrong!" Expectations subverted hardcore
Honestly should be canon ending. People will say that So Mi betrays you, but honestly I don't think so. In the end she does reveal the truth and gives a choice to make, help her or side with NUSA. This really is a choice compared to the "orders" you get from NUSA. So while she did keep the "full truth" from you, it does not change the fact that one person can be saved only via the moon AI way, whether its you or So Mi, one should be saved and at the critical point you get to choose, so in my book So Mi is really alright. It would be different if So Mi keeps this fact hidden all the way and just locks you out of the spaceship and flies into orbit, I would consider that a true betrayal. I think saving her really shows just how much V has grown and matured and I think at the critical point So Mi realizes that too and kinda wishes it would have been her who gets to save V this way, hence revealing the truth in the end. I think its also quite interesting to think about saving So Mi is really saving V, just another V who are almost identical in (especially if choosen corpo female route) in background, motivation etc. So by doing that, we do get to "win" and defeat the incredibly greedy corpo counter-angle and achieve true liberty in a way. This becomes more obvious when choosing the NUSA/pseudo-arasaka way where we sign away our fate for the sake of "surviving" but not "living". I think this ending goes very well with "Don't fear the ripper", where V both becomes the legend they wanted to be all along (which ties up the jackie angle quite nicely too) and gets to the moon heist potentially setting up "more". It's unfortunate that Reed has to meet their demise, but when exhausting all options before drawing the weapon, we kinda give him a lot of chances to let it be, but tragically they are a virtual copy of goro, who while loyal till the end, can not see beyond corpo.
its a terrifying though isnt it, in a world where machines now exist in every human all you need is unstable ai under your control and you watch as everyone is torn at your knees
@@keylime1237To be fair, that was before Netwatch was created. If Militech tried that in the present then they definitely would’ve been stopped. Not even a shit ton of eds would stop them.
@@keylime1237 they didn't knew mostly of Militech operations on the Blackwall, that is the main reason why Myers don't want to let Songbird escape: she has all the proofs that could proof all the cyber criminal activities of Myers/Militech to the Netwatch
Harnessing that kind of power is EXACTLY what i wanted out of a cyberpunk power fantasy at the climax of a game. What an awesome scene, and it makes the blackwall even more terrifying seeing the power V gets just from tapping into it with very little prior knowledge of it.
Thanks bro. Thought had to fight and destroy helicopter. So just run back to songbird and get into the tower with her only after wiping enough troops out for the helicopter to appear.
Damn. The voice actors for female V and Songbird absolutely SLAYED in this sequence. Damn. I really felt my heart tearing at this final gasp for survival.
Honestly I prefer this ending over the Reed one... Songbird was the ultimate victim of that whole situation, she deserved to go to the moon and escape.
honestly never before have i played as a character that had access to a more..."unholy" power than the blackwall... it is genuinely more eldritch and demonic than most "demon" super powers games let you use. it doesnt even feel like you're just KILLING people, it feels like you are DAMNING THEM TO DIGI-HELL like you simply opened the gates to the underworld directly into their soul, unleashing horrid demons that burn them up from the inside out.
The Blackwall is also somewhat vengeance for all of the voiceless victims of corporations and colonialist states. In this moment, it truly felt like V became the harbinger of all of the NUSA's victims and their needless suffering
The fact that Songbird basically collapses when V says, "Could've told me the truth. I would've helped anyway." Must've been like a knife to the heart.
literally i was sobbing that train ride 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Playing V with a heart of gold feels super good 👍
@@prometheus5405Or being caring piece of s**t
I commited lot of bad stuff,but i have empathy for someone who is as honest about it as i am,lol
Yep, I sided with Reed first cuz I didn't trust her at first then saw her falshbacks and its tragic. She has to lie to survive but still she lies. So when siding with her I was as nice as possible and guilt tripped her into the moon.
@@bloppyzefish6932 You saying like u wont do same in her situation
I just realized how this DLC just makes Johnny and V relationship become more friend at arms
Especially when Johnny Calls you Vincent/Valeria
Because The only one who know V could call him/her V real name
Wait Johnny calls V by their real name? I don't remember that, maybe I missed something.
@@lsargent0751 you will get that scene when you almost at end of the dlc
@@leonarduskrisna4588Can you be more specific? Finished the DLC story an hour ago but don't remember that anywhere -need to see! ^^
@@MuteObserver you need to get new route ending
Where you let Reed Operate you and erase Johnny from your brain
@@MuteObserver You only get that dialogue if u got good bond with Johnny before doing that ending. Many ppl who rushed expansion too fast didnt get his (and others sidequests) done
Man songbird’s story is so sad..she lies to you but even Johnny acknowledges that it was the right thing for you to do.
She was like a caged bird, driven to the edge of cliff because she wanted so desperately to escape everything. I think name fits her perfectly. But man, that shuttle scene is branded in my memory. This game has some of the best stories ever written.
Honestly Johnny really only said it was the right choice because he was afraid of V taking reeds offer resulting in Johnny fully being destroyed
@@fleko8889 At that point you had already killed Reed and the NUSA wanted to see your head served up on a plate. Meaning that the deal with them had already burned to ashes. So there’s no need for Johnny to pretend. Whether he praised or told you that you made the worst decision ever wouldn’t have made a difference in anything.
Nah, he hate NUSA because he know that they're doing bad things, all of them are scumbags, even Alex admit that when she says that nobody could be trusted. Johnny hate the fact that you trade your life for Songbird in the new ending easily like that, it's a pussy ending after all, you don't acommplish anything besides staying alive. You're not a legend like V and Jackie dreamed in the beginning of the game and don't even try to do the only thing that Johnny asked for you to do, that is killing Adam Smasher. @@fleko8889
@fleko8889 you that's not true. You only find out it will destroy him after this and even then he himself says he thought they would shelve him or you'd put him on the net
Jesus... I had literal goosebumps when she summoned blackwall. Its the most amazing and mesmerizing thing, like literally wildest AI beasts waiting to shred through humanity and use it as slaves
I love the visuals and the screams from those poor bastards. Sounds so brutal
I'm no snowflake but the distorted screams of those guys really made me feel disturbed, the visual and sound design of this sequence is a masterpiece.
You are using the blackwall AI power, a thing that it's to keep the wild AI on the other side of the wall out.
Which says that the DataKrash wasn't a bunch of idiots throwing their hands up.
It was a literal slaughter, of the worse degree.
The expansion from
The beginning was insane
Jesus, the Blackwall must be some eldritch horror level shit.
It is
What most horror fact that The Old Net was Exist before it was Discovered by Bartmoss
@@leonarduskrisna4588 Yet bartmoss during his time he shut down like 70% of the world grid.
Which makes the Voodoo Boys extra deplorable by wanting to breach it so they could show servitude to the AI's and be spared.
The Blackwall is and I love it. The thing is an AI so it's intelligent. It's this godlike thing that is keeping wild demons at bay, but at the same time has no love for humanity. It's just doing what it was created to do. But it's an AI. It Evolves. It learns.
Think about that.
@@TrueLegateDamar Only certain VDB groups are interested in the Blackwall. Others are not, like Slider noted.
The Black Wall was the old ‘net, the one barrier keeping any poor bastard from frying themselves, their chrome, their entire soul. If V can direct that like a weapon, they’re practically a god.
So sad its only for this mission, wouldnt be mad if i had those powers for the rest of the game
Unless you are one of the people who don't have even a single implant. (It's telling that two, three if you count Viktor, ripperdocs don't have any implant).
And the fact that it goes toward your netrunner attribute...
I saw a playthrough of this mission, kills with The Blackwall count as Netrunner XP, I'm dead serious.
@@Dutchman-2002you can get a cyberware that lets you hack people using it, but only if you pick it up and side with reed
What with the Lilith AI being summoned from beyond the blackwall with that one cyberpsycho quest and then this whole storyline with Song, I really, REALLY hope the next cyberpunk game has a main character that is somehow involved with the blackwall and AI beyond it.
When I played through this scene I was in awe, it gave me chills. This was a moment where everything passed from science into something that felt truly supernatural. The Blackwall and the net is my favorite thing about Cyberpunk and I really want more of it.
I love that Phantom Liberty showed us just how terrifying and dangerous AIs beyond the Blackwall are. There were moments where it almost felt like a horror game.
@@izzyfrncxs3408 especially with the screaming sound effects here, super creepy
I love the idea of a cyberpunk game set in a daemon infested world
@@ralalbatross Yeah. I want the NUSA to be bigger in the next game and I want Meyers actions with Song to be the Catalyst for not only another war starting to happen, but due to the actions of the corps and the NUSA the Blackwall finally goes rogue.
That would be an interesting game.
@@ralalbatross Sorry for the double reply, but I forgot to mention how it could be wild with the rogue daemons popping up since everyone and anyone might get hollowed out and turn into something like the Lilith cyberpsycho in 2077.
If you could use this kind of power during Fear the Reaper that would become my goto ending.
There is a weapon that can do that
And a quickhack
And if you close your eyes, you can pretend that use of those upgrades is why the biochip changed so much of V before Alt Cunningham could disentangle V and Johnny
@@BHRamsayI would’ve love there to be a fusion between V and Johnny.
@@grimsquad273
> use Blackwall quickhack, 1 shot Adam
> use basic CM + SC combo, 1 shot Adam
"Clearly the problem is players having too much OP stuff. Just cripple yourself to balance the final boss bro. I am very smart"
Please seek professional help immediately.
2:47 and there he is, Mr. Blue Eyes standing in the background with an umbrella watching the whole thing went down.
holy fuck... I did not see him stood there.
he is a techno necromancer from alpha centauri , only few know the truth
I’m blind. Where is he exactly?
@@Sobasicallyandthenprettymuchye look up to the right of SongBird's head, he was standing on the balcony above all the fire, it goes by so fast between 2:47 and the beginning of 2:48
@@sambatphu806oh I see. Thanks
All I could hear while playing was "UNLIMITED.....POWER!!!"
😂😂😂
"POWEEEEEEEEEEEER.....UNLIMITED POWEEEEEEEEEEER"
best ending imo especially if you do the dont fear the reaper ending. V more or less comes to terms with their fate and decides to spare someone else from theirs. They couldnt beat the system but maybe somi will
Hate to poop on the parade but if Blue Eyes is who everyone thinks he is, So Mi is more screwed than she was with the NUSA. Basically So Mi(and by Proxy V's) survival hinges on whether or not the Blue Eyed people can be trusted, in the tabletop lore they're said to control politicians(as shown with Peralez) so whatever they want with V and SoMi is NOT benevolent
this is the correct ending this is right this is it
@@manamoriSave songbird,put Reed to rest,keep Alex alive cause she freakin dies if you along with Reed's plan,and then try to save yourself with Crystal palace raid :D
@@skell6134 correct this is the correct ending this is the right way to play the game all other options are evil this is good thank you
@@manamori I mean,its just sort of best outcome for everyone,im not saying that anyone should be playing game this way
This ending was the one I ended up with and it makes sense.
Johnny and V influenced each other so much, taught each other a shit ton and changed each other for the better and worse. This ending lets Songbird have a chance, and saves Alex in the process. In a way, it saves Reed too - because he was so tangled up in the Nusa shit and his own principles he was only leading himself into the same problem So Mi had. Being used for others benefits whether it meant his life or someone elses. V walks away empty handed of course, but at the same time, I feel like Johnny and V had been together so long, they were almost the same person at that point. My version of V wouldnt have sold out or murdered my way to the cure to erase Johnny as if we didn't go through some of the hardest and dumbest shit together. While I agree the ending where you do get the cure is heart wreching and really well written. I dont know, I jsut felt like this is the way V would have handled shit. Especially witb the influence of silverhand lingering around. V would have wanted saved everyone, and Silverhand didnt want to go. They achieved that.
I also hated the ending cure tbh. I was after Judy and V staying together, and the DLC kinda shit on that with the cure ending. So I"ve opted for this one instead, Judy and V relationship or not went through everything just like V and Jackie did. and I didn't like the idea that Judy basically doesn't give a care for u in the ending it had for V relating to the Cure.
You say you're unwilling to murder for the cure but that's exactly what you do in EVERY ending. If you raid Saka with ANYBODY including Saka themselves, the blood of hundreds if not BILLIONS due to the wider scope of consequences is on V's hands.
Empty handed? Nah fam I got so much Iconic weapons through out Dog Town lol.
V just became a Cyber God.
not really ... he realesed it the the world ...
Alt Cunningham just watching in the background lol
The black wall is the embodiment of “technology can be so advanced it looks like magic”
Agreed. I myself can do many things.
Amogus@@JesusChristDenton_7
I think that's the idea. The Rogue AI on the other side are literally called Daemons. It's a cool sci-fi way of recreating Demon Summoning. V is basically a possessed anti-christ in this moment
This game had THAT MOMENT.
That moment when Daniel used his telekinesis to destroy the police blockade.
That moment when Alicia turned into a Valkyria and crushed the Imperial Army
That moment when you unleashed a horrifying power on people that could literally do nothing to stop you.
which are you referencing for the first two?
@@chriscormac231 Life is Strange 2 and Valkyria Chronicles
It's kino
It felt obscene to use that power. Every time I triggered it, I was saying "fuck this feels wrong."
that moment was gaming moment of the year for sure
My preferred ending tbh, not just because I sympathize with Song as a character, but what it means for her. Does it matter that she wasn't completely honest with V about the neural matrix? Sure, it kinda hurts, but at that point the matrix is her only chance of getting a "second chance" as she called it. She can't storm Arasaka, she has no access to Mikoshi, or Alt. V has all those options, so it made sense to me to free her life from NUSA, and Meyers specifically. To put it as simply as possible, our girl got tired of being used by a corp (in this case, by Myers) to access beyond blackwall for personal gain (game makes sure to mention it multiple times), to Song's own deterriment. That kind of desperation is understandable, and familiar to V. So, to me, it only made sense to help Song possibly get her life back.
Agreed. For me, my V saw a kindred spirit in Song, and helping her get out just felt like the right thing to do.
As much as the lie stings, in the end Songbird chose to tell the truth when she absolutely could have fooled V to the end. Confessing just before passing out was the worst possible move a cold-blooded manipulator could make, which proves that she's more than that.
That's the detail that won me over and made me protect her.
But it will be used by Mr. Blue and other iskins
also doesn't help that giving the NUSA (which is just Militech pretending it's the USA) unrestrained access to whatever is beyond the blackwall is a horrible idea for the rest of humanity
@@imshailThat's the funniest part. Freeing Song means giving him over to Blue Eye.
Blue Eye is linked to both rogue AI and Militech. That's made evident by how he uses Peralez as a front, whom is the NUSA candidate for NC. You also spot old militech tech during Dream On.
You might even argue that MBE is a result of Project cynosure.
There's absolutely no winning move in the DLC, except perhaps killing Song. But even in that case you give back the neural matrix, a rogue AI, to Militech.
There is a nice parallel between Song being used by MBE in Fatal Moon and V being used by MBE after The Sun ; with both being sent in space.
It just hit me. V did what David couldn't do. Kill Adam Smasher and send someone to the moon himself/herself.
Wonder if Lucy ever encountered So Mi? Unlikely, but who knows, it's possible with this ending!
@@smithynoir9980 In my headcanon she's one of those who helps So Mi get cured. Like you said, with this ending it's possible.
Holy shit. I wonder if that´s intentional or if it just.. happened because that was the story.
Because we’re the exception 🗿
Please excuse me 😂
@@smithynoir9980It's possible... Besides "The Star," we NEVER see Lucy (outside of a chance encounter that I can't confirm is real or not.)
I think thw whole lesson was for this dlc was you either die a legend or sacrifice everything to just live for another day with a price
Quite life or Blaze and Glory
Honestly, worse than death and even suicide ending imo. Not only being npc, but also to see your ideals crumble in night City and corpos still take up, so i'd prefer to at least save songbird from president as she wants than that
@@sh-kq4ro What's wrong with being NPC? You are living a normal life right now and you are doing fine.
@@wellwellwell7563 there is no normal life in nc without implants, V isnt V even anymore
@@JakobatHeart wtf how am I suppose to live outside of night city if this is only avaible city?
I think the DLC canonically power scales V even more. And makes her scarier. Like, Songbird basically collapses after interacting with the Blackwall, while V manages to power through it enough to still be able to fight (think to the duel at the end...if yk yk). And remember this ain't no run of the mill netrunner either, its arguably the best netrunner NUSA has.
V is canonically the strongest merc to have ever walked Night City.
But on the other hand, So Mi was so devastated after so many encounters that maybe she's just so weak after hundreds of times doing it and V does it for the very first tims
yeah but somi had been entangled with that fuckery for years. there's a few dialogues and text pieces reporting that her behavior had been changing, that she was starting to crack (that's why she hatched that whole plan with Hansen, cos she knew Myers had no problem using her until death and beyond). and even after that certain exhaustion she was experiencing, she still managed to hack the entire dogtown stadium and the whole fucking spaceport.
And, imo, its technically wrong to mention V as a singular independent individual.. V died to Dex, the legendary unkillable merc is actually the fusion between hers and johnny's conscience, that gets progressively stronger as the biochip spreads further into V's brain.
V without johnny couldn't survive that long, its NC's nature. she would've went just like David did. (that's a lesson on nature i guess.. johhny's construct is an anomaly. immortality shouldn't exist).
But they were connected to each other making V and Songbird share the black wall's burden, it was not V alone controlling the Black wall's AIs.
The scene with the helicopters light shining all in slowmo and cinematic as hell really reminded me of the cyberpunk2077 Bullets trailer.
This mixture of feeling hopeless and being overpowered in this final journey gave me chills. I haven't remembered such a good ending since Mass Effect 3.
...I hope you're joking.
That’s caaaaaaaaaaap
LMAO
Arguably the coolest sequence in entire game 😮
Followed closely by the sequence where Slider dies and time freezes while you talk with Songbird
"Hands up, we've got you surrounded"
"Kneel to your new cybergod"
"Last warning, V"
0:46 "I. SAID. KNEEEEEEEEEL"
The way she wanted to escape, wanted to go the moon so bad it reminds me so much of Lucy from Edgerunner. From this moment alone, i decided to save Songbird no matter what even if V didn't get her cure, even if Reed was being honest with us from day one.
Songbird going to the moon was 100% some kind of homage to the anime. No way it wasn't done on purpose
Somi is from the same class as Lucy. It just makes too much sense.
I always thought that "don't fear the reaper" is the proper way to go out with a boom, solving problems by yourself. so I agreed to help her without any expectations for a cure. Yet for a brief moment I was tiny bit bummed. But not about the lack of cure, rather her lying to V. So it is understandable if some were disappointed in her. But looking back to interactions with So Mi, it was obvious she deeply regrets on the inside for lying, sometimes lashing out on V for it as she feels tormented by his/her kind and honest responses, and optimism where V says He/She trusts her, or moments where So Mi is mutely shaking her head when V talks about cure. I couldn't be mad at her because she didn't lie out of spite or with the intention of hurting V, and I agreed with Johnny that her determination to commit acts she herself did not like to do, commanded some respect. Probably that's why I choosed the same "Would've helped you anyway" line. So Mi saw herself when she learned about V, the only kindred spirit with the same or even stronger determination than her, probably partly why she contacted V in the first place too: respect. My theory is that the only thing she did not expect is to get attached to V, seeing more in common than just strongwill and building further up the already present guilt in herself. Also V was the only "real" person she could talk to about her hardships and past, (especially while Kurt and his men were breathing on her neck daily) unlike Myers or the loyal dogs of the FIA like Reed, who was unwilling to put So Mi above his duty (he was the same as Takemura)
I really liked this ending.
Same man. All of this
The parallels between Song Bird = V, Reed = Takemura, and NSUA = Arasaka. Song Bird i s a version of V that has nothing and no one. Can't be mad at Song Bird who is trying to survive, who has kept secrets her whole life and worked as an agent. Reed on the other hand is another hound for NSUA. No matter what they do to him, mark him for death, screw him over, use him, he will always serve because the NSUA is all he knows and will ever know. Sounds familiar, don't you think? Takemura was the same exact way. When you take down Arasaka while Takemura is alive, he vows to take revenge on V. Selling Song Bird is the equivalent of turning V in to Arasaka.
Even going through with Reed's ending is the same as Arasaka. They "help you", but all they do is damn you and Johnny. Reed cannot be trusted and neither myers. Considering Reed "took care" of jacob and his friend to tie up loose ends should be a red flag. It's funny to se Mr. Hands being the only upstanding guy in this mess. Blue Eyes is truly V's only hope, and I know he is going to play a big role in the next cyberpunk with the black wall (as most dlcs are teasers for the next installment).
I thought Song Bird is parallel of Lucy
@@iamniandthememe definitely not
That’s why I believe Corpo V to be the canon life path, just feels more poetic compared to Nomad and Streetkid
Man...the soundtrack, the sound effect make it soooo epic
Agreed the music is just amazing!!!
lmao
just realized you left Reed's body on the platform when the Rocket took off
guess you turned him into roast chicken in the process
My game glitched and the black wall was literally making my game run at less than 1 frame per second. It was super trippy. It took like five minutes to walk to the train
the canon blackwall basically
Full immersion
I know this is a year old but this happened to me, just needed to reboot the game to fix it.
I had my Berserk equipment activated and the cutscene didn't turn it off so I had this amazingly awesome red tint to the screen. Shit was Cinematic
V has acquired upgraded Soulkiller and Blackwall daemons. Just like DataKrash and R.A.B.I.D.S. True heir of Bartmoss.
Oh my god, Mr Blue Eyes at 2:47 just to the upper right :o
I just beat Phantom Liberty for the first time a few days ago. Got this ending and made a lot of the same choices you did. Still reeling from the whole thing. But I just realized! I shot Reed in the head, and he just fell over, no last words. I had no idea he would have different animations/dialogue when you shoot him the chest. Truly amazing.
Thank god, this was my first ending, the other endings are too depressive.
This is why the old Net is sealed off. Unleashing it would destroy everything.
Also, a few days after sending our girl to the moon you get a message from her with some interesting stuff she sent you back to NC, including lunar dust, a metal souvenir Tycho pin and a piece of cyberware. Which was nice to see, because the endng kinda fucked me up emotionally.
never really realized how dangerous cyberpsace beyond the Black Wall actually was until this dlc. Even in the base game when you meet Alt, it seemed just another day in Night City, but after this dlc it re contextualized the whole scene, and i absolutely love it.
There is a mod on the nexus that lets you use this anytime. It even has the hand animations and yes it is completely broken.
I used it on that Pacifica douche just because he said my hardware was bad lmao
Up until this point, this DLC, the only two legit moments of horror i've seen were related to AI.
First is "possessed" cyberpsycho from Maelstrom, and the second is that scene where you get contacted by blue-eyed AI people before talking to the politician in the side-quest.
And now we can see Blackwall in all it's horrifying glory.
The game has always been kind gruesome, dismemberment and other things included. But, until this time, there were no cases of someone dying on screen while inducing sheer horror of their agony. Blackwall Gateway does look like that, the worst way to go.
Echoing, reverberating and distorted screams of death and agony, as V's very perception of afflicted targets and reality around them twists and turns, as if being ripped apart by forces beyond your comprehension.
I've been wanting to see things like this the moment i've did a dive into Cyberpunk (ttrp and videogame) lore. This was done as close to ideal as possible, i think..
Handing over Songbird to Nusa is like handing over your soul and principles to the devil.
You get to "live" but lose everything dear to you in exchange.
She lied again, betrayed reed and V. Small price to pay for betrayal. Sad story or not, her sad story was her fault.
Nah, that's choosing either the devil ending or the new ending. It's complicated with So Mi.
@@vendetta3941Reed is like Takemura. They talk about loyalty, principles, honor but all these start and begin when their duty comes in. He knows what they did to Songbird yet he still wants to hand her over to the FIA. If he truly cared about her well-being he would encourage us to set her free instead of turning her into a puppet so the president can keep running her sick experiments on the Blackwell through her. People like him are just pussies that that tie up their morals to some regime because they are too weak to stand up for their own. And then he even plays the regret card on you “oh i should have done more for you and So Mi” well a little bit too late for that.
@@vendetta3941 The difference is that she had no options besides that. Her situation is so shit that even Johnny said that she did the right thing.
@@vendetta3941 Nope , NUA basically use song bird skills like prisioner to do all dirty works for political gain. She just wants to live free away from all corpo bull shit
Love how twitchy V’s finger act which shows how overwhelming the Blackwall power is.
One of the best sequences in gaming ever. Amazing end to an amazing DLC. And man, the expression on her face at the start of the clip is heart-breaking, doesn't even say anything there but makes you feel so much emotion.
This mission was one of my favourite missions in a game in years. So much so, it's one that I feel sad I won't be able to experience for the first time again, but boy, what a fucking ride it was.
I really liked this scene V. I would love a scenario where she used the BlackWall more
There is a way. You can find a Iconic Operating System that has no Buffs except a One of a kind Quickhack. You will find that Hack very familiar. In the same place you can gain access to a Unique Smart Gun with similar powers.
And dooms humanity lmao
@@echo3788 Honestly in Cyberpunk Land that is pretty much just a question of "when" by now anyway.
Well you can get the Cyperware that makes you use the blackwall powers (and it talks to you, trying to lure you like Song) if So ends up in the bunker.
I want the next Cyberpunk game to revolve around the Blackwall. The way Song describes the Blackwall it's as if it's stalking her and whispering to her. It's an AI, it's intelligent. I want to have the ability to start with whatever backgrounds but somehow the character ends up getting involved with the Blackwall. It would give off akira vibes.
One of the best scene of the DLC, by far. It was fcking epic
Which scene was better than this one?
Best ending for me, send song bird to the moon-> then don't fear the reaper
1:34 "She's beginning to believe"
Jeez, hearing the militech agents scream as their fucking nervous system gets fried is terrifying
Doing the Arasaka ending gives you a taste of what So Mi experience was like with Militech.
She never knew what it was like to trust others.
So mi was very lucky to have V helping her because I believe that V canonically cares about his friends and people close to him or her.
independent of lifepath V would help So Mi live even knowing the truth.
It actually makes sense to send song to the moon and then do the blue eyes ending that sends you to the moon also for the next game. Imagine the shit you'll get upto taking down the corpos with song, V and Lucy
Now I become death ,the destroyer of world
0:41 best Neuralink commercial ever made
Use the force, V
V is beginning to believe.
CDPR has shown us magical horrors beyond our reckoning but this is the moment that science fiction horror and magical horror blur. V unleashing the daemons of the black wall in hellish bolts of lightning like a possessed witch, burning people from the inside out in a twisted omage to raiders of the lost arc just fills you with an indescribable dread and horror. It makes you feel the shear power of the black wall AI’s and understand the hell that humanity has built for itself out of circuits and code. Not even the magical creatures of the witcher can compare to this.
Yeah I really can't figure how the cyber space and stuff could actually work. It acts more of an Astral space then a digital space
Having played all of the endings in the base game and also watching the Cyberpunk Anime. I knew it wouldn't end well. But when this moment happened and we were able to wield BLACKWALL hacks to obliterate people- that's about as much of a happy ending as you can get. Everything after that was just falling action.
Actually sided with Reed when I played through it. I'll be damned, the super spy everyone calls a liar has been straight with me the entire story whil song was stringing me up all along.
He is indeed honest, but the idea that NUSA will actually help Song is in reality a lie. He is so blinded by duty and only realizes that V was right about Song once its too late if you side with Reed. Its not black and white and I really appreciate a narrative such as this. If Reed was honest with himself he would have abandoned Myers a long time ago as he was present at the time that Song was losing his memory even witnessing a moment where Song could not recognize Reed in the past after returning from the Blackwall. In the end its all up to the players own moral code to decide what's right in the moment.
@@jingsterling personally the way i weighed my options is 'songbird played me, reed didn't. songbird was willing to condemn the entire stadium to death for herself whereas i'm not.' worse is if you save songbird, she confesses that there was no cure left for you to begin with. at first i was conflicted with my choice in siding with reed, but after that reveal, i was 100% confident i made the right choice helping reed. other than that it's also fitting for the rp i'm doing. corpo v was played by arasaka, then dex. the way i envision v is someone who's unwilling to get played a third time and does not take kindly to people who try to do so.
@@jingsterlingSimilar to what happened to Alt...
@@bottomleftoand now you become played by militech, congrats. Some people will never learn, lel. You never, NEVER TRUST ANY CORP IN ANY WAY. NUSA = militech, so you just give them WMD that might bring fucking apocalypse in the most literal sense. Song personality will be wiped out and what is left will be used for militech plans behind the blackwall. Untold thousands, if not millions, of people will dle in the future because you return So Mi to this sick fucks. There is only two “good” endings in a “greater good” sence: sendingSo Mi to the moon or killing her.
@bottomlefto oh no the stadium full of criminals. And you did get played by siding with Reed. Can't help you figure that one out, but glad your v is a corpo shill and NUSA tool now.
I genuinely think the Blackwall Pulse scene is the best action scene in the game with it's engagement grip straight up equaling the best of the game's finales. I can't stress how hopeless they made all of this feel. You're giving it everything you've got to escape the FIA but as the mission goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that you won't make it out of this. Then with the greatest horror known to humankind, you're able to shift the tables enough to win. Every single second felt weighted and impactful like I had no idea what would happen next.
Yeah, 100% greatest game ever made.
It's so difficult for me to choose the Reed's side because of all this. Yeh, she did lie to you and betray your trust. But even though both V and her are in a similar situation where they are barely holding on to life with a passenger in our heads, the massive difference is that while we have a loveable jackass of a rockerboy, she got herself the cyber equivalent of eldritch horrors. And she is effing scared of that. So yeh even if they have the same issue the difference are based on magnitudes.
The way the dudes scream. They are literally being sent to the shadow realm.
That mission/end...I love it. It was so sad, but the most emotional mission for me in Cyberpunk 2077. So glad I decided to play the game once more with Phantom Liberty.
so v uses her chrome to achieve omnipotence? hard price for godhood i guess
I’m glad I did this ending because both Alex and song live 😭
If you help her at first then give her up to Reed at the station then all 3 live
@@CircusofPython you meant sell out to NUSA? no thank.
@@CircusofPython yeah I did that lol it was my favorite ending
@@timr6492 She tells you during Somewhat Damaged that she rather die than go back to Myers.
And it's that moment that made me realise how terrifying the power of the blackwall can be :O
Ngl i simped hard for songbird. It really felt like her and V were kindred spirits (I played Corpo so V and So Mi were both used and abused by the system). This scene was easily my favorite traversing the blackwall together and having the power of a cybergod. I think my V went into cyberpsychosis during this so it was like the point of no return
Wish I could relive this for the first time again, I made manual saves at certain points in the game to replay them, but it’s not the same
It’s like she has become the entire server and can bend it to her needs, we need more of this dark energy witchcraft in the sequel !!! So good
*Casually unleashes robo-cthulu*
when the shuttle lifts off and the music starts ... its just heart wrenching
This was legit the most wtf moment of the entire story for me. I didn't expect the weird distorted screams in slow motion
V become a goddess for a while. And the part where V must shot Reed is hurt af
Songbirds mission and “help her” ending are up there with the BEST of the endings PL has. The Reed ones are super weak in comparison.
I was so torn between picking Reed or Songbird that I googled which choice was better and I kept seeing that picking Reed gave you better loot but it didn’t feel right to me. My V would never turn on Songbird. I thought I’d get a less cool ending and was so blown away by this.
Blackwall=Gaunter O Dimm it gives what you want and takes what you need change my mind
one of the best moments in gaming, that dlc was fire
Love how after this ending, V and Johnny are both like "Welp. Back to square one"
7:43 fun detail here, if you shoot him in the head he instantly drops without dialogue
The gameplay in this section is so much better than running away from the stupid instakill bot
But the emotional damage inflicted by seeing her memories and having to mercy kill Songbird in Reed's path is much more effective
I do like this ending for Songbird though, yeah she was clearly lying but she did what she had to do to survive
On my first run i went with Reed cause I thought "well she's clearly evil, she's too nice and helpful, I know how stories work" and by the end of it I was screaming "no game stop she's not evil, I get it, I was wrong!"
Expectations subverted hardcore
Honestly should be canon ending. People will say that So Mi betrays you, but honestly I don't think so. In the end she does reveal the truth and gives a choice to make, help her or side with NUSA. This really is a choice compared to the "orders" you get from NUSA. So while she did keep the "full truth" from you, it does not change the fact that one person can be saved only via the moon AI way, whether its you or So Mi, one should be saved and at the critical point you get to choose, so in my book So Mi is really alright. It would be different if So Mi keeps this fact hidden all the way and just locks you out of the spaceship and flies into orbit, I would consider that a true betrayal.
I think saving her really shows just how much V has grown and matured and I think at the critical point So Mi realizes that too and kinda wishes it would have been her who gets to save V this way, hence revealing the truth in the end. I think its also quite interesting to think about saving So Mi is really saving V, just another V who are almost identical in (especially if choosen corpo female route) in background, motivation etc. So by doing that, we do get to "win" and defeat the incredibly greedy corpo counter-angle and achieve true liberty in a way. This becomes more obvious when choosing the NUSA/pseudo-arasaka way where we sign away our fate for the sake of "surviving" but not "living".
I think this ending goes very well with "Don't fear the ripper", where V both becomes the legend they wanted to be all along (which ties up the jackie angle quite nicely too) and gets to the moon heist potentially setting up "more".
It's unfortunate that Reed has to meet their demise, but when exhausting all options before drawing the weapon, we kinda give him a lot of chances to let it be, but tragically they are a virtual copy of goro, who while loyal till the end, can not see beyond corpo.
its a terrifying though isnt it, in a world where machines now exist in every human all you need is unstable ai under your control and you watch as everyone is torn at your knees
After playing DLC i follow NetWatch 100% 🤯Blackwall is fucking terryfing
They’re the BPRD holding the line against dark digital gods
but too bad they didn't do anything about Militech messing with the Blackwall
@@keylime1237To be fair, that was before Netwatch was created. If Militech tried that in the present then they definitely would’ve been stopped. Not even a shit ton of eds would stop them.
@@keylime1237 There's actually a side mission that explains this, Netwatch are also sell outs if the price is right.
@@keylime1237 they didn't knew mostly of Militech operations on the Blackwall, that is the main reason why Myers don't want to let Songbird escape: she has all the proofs that could proof all the cyber criminal activities of Myers/Militech to the Netwatch
This game is so amazing im glad it made a comeback and i gave it a second chance. The voice acting, writing, and just the whole vibe is top tier
Harnessing that kind of power is EXACTLY what i wanted out of a cyberpunk power fantasy at the climax of a game. What an awesome scene, and it makes the blackwall even more terrifying seeing the power V gets just from tapping into it with very little prior knowledge of it.
Thanks bro. Thought had to fight and destroy helicopter. So just run back to songbird and get into the tower with her only after wiping enough troops out for the helicopter to appear.
mr blue eyes u can see him watching u in the train at 2:47
Damn. The voice actors for female V and Songbird absolutely SLAYED in this sequence. Damn. I really felt my heart tearing at this final gasp for survival.
Thanos : oh! You are inevitable!
Unleashing the full power of the Spider man 2099 music sting
Actually wait, that could be a cool mod
Honestly I prefer this ending over the Reed one... Songbird was the ultimate victim of that whole situation, she deserved to go to the moon and escape.
Dude Contra La Luna has to be one of my favorite tracks of all time, followed by this scene? CDPR you're too good to me.
This ending was borderline mesmerizing when I first played it, from using the Blackwall ai`s to the train ride, then the launch.
may not be the most moralist ending to Fantom Pain, but it's my favourite by far , emotionally very higt
man the soundtrack is just awesome
honestly
never before have i played as a character that had access to a more..."unholy" power than the blackwall...
it is
genuinely more eldritch and demonic than most "demon" super powers games let you use.
it doesnt even feel like you're just KILLING people, it feels like you are DAMNING THEM TO DIGI-HELL
like you simply opened the gates to the underworld directly into their soul, unleashing horrid demons that burn them up from the inside out.
It kind of reminded me of Watch Dogs 2's The Shuffler outfit and ability.
Its scary how the Black wall appears like Magic. As V waves his/her hands shattering all those who stand before them.
I wish I hadn't beaten the game when the game first came out. This whole package would have been even more difficult to get through in a good way.
eldritch blast be like
“same man, same.” fucking kills me every time
The Blackwall is also somewhat vengeance for all of the voiceless victims of corporations and colonialist states. In this moment, it truly felt like V became the harbinger of all of the NUSA's victims and their needless suffering
Lol imagine believing this
@@DragonZombie2000 you're too gonk to understand
After that scene : I want this power…