Knowing what you know... If you were to purchase a 2018 Bronze bobber... How much out the door would your $$$ goal be? Please also take into consideration that I'm planning to purchase in July-Sep of 2018. Thanks in advance!!!
I'm glad came across your channel because with all the loans that i have out there, i'm going to have to negotiate and make them make all the numbers work for me. Look forward to your riding videos !
Bicasso -- 100% smart move going with your local dealership where you have a relationship. I try to keep it local as much as possible. Pays big dividends in the long run. And yeah, the parking deck is pretty chill!
You should have kept the money from the gap and invested it in an IRA. Most insurance companies or credit unions can cover gap for less then the dealer. But in retrospect insurance implies what if or in case. I have owned 13 bikes in my life never got gap or extended insurance plan but only once. And I did it because my dealer treats me well and has never let me down. The funny thing is my extended warranty already paid for itself and still have another 4 years of coverage. Enjoy your Indian.
Pedro C Absolutely. I added the Gap insurance into the financing so not $500 up front. Also, my insurance company doesn't offer gap so rather than risk it, I went ahead and got it. I'm big on investing so that's another reason why I didn't buy it outright. :D
Smart to think of the business relationship. Not worth screwing up a good thing over a few bucks. Given the "other" Murican brand charges an extra $1k for assembly, $400 for freight, and $300 for paperwork, I'd say you did alright, especially given the low price and popularity of that model. Well done!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Finally someone that knows how to produce content with valuable information. OUT THE DOOR is the only number you should ever discuss with a dealership. I'm gonna buy the 2020 in thunder black smoke.. Hey! you killed dude. Congrats
Got my Scout ABS last July from same dealer, ..0% for 72 months and 500.00 of goodies....too bad that offer has apparently gone...still nice bike and good rate bro.....
Dobbie Norris Yeah, sucks they didn't offer that on the 2018s. That's why I wanted to get as close to zero as possible since they had the promotion. I figured if they did it in the 2017s, I could get really close to zero on a 2018.
Man good video. I’m getting a bobber here pretty soon just waiting for a nice back pay check to come through. Once I get that I’m feel like a kid in a candy store but after watching this video it kinda settle me down a little. I just got b willing to walking away from the deal till I’m feel good about it... thanks again!
Diego Alvarez Absolutely! Don't be afraid to say no! When I got to the finance office and got those different maintenance plan offers, I told myself to stick to the plan. Just say no. Go in with a plan and stick to it.
So I'm currently shopping for a scout and I'll be gettin one very very soon hopefully, like within the next 3 weeks soon, I'm a new rider so I don't know what the difference between the ABS and non ABS is, all I know is that the non ABS is like 1000 cheaper
ABS is the anti-lock braking system. It prevents locking up the wheels from pressing the brakes too hard. As a new rider, it’s an effective safety feature.
Always shop around. When I bought my Victory Jackpot it was the newest bike in the lineup. I shopped 3 different dealers and I saved $3800.00 between the highest and lowest price and I paid cash.
I test rode the Scout and it was awesome. My current bike is 750, so the Scout was quite an experience. Thanks for the video. Why did you go with a Bobber?
Thanks for posting the video man. It’s truly helping focus more on the business aspect. Would you happen to have any insights whether the bike’s maintenance is reliable? Is it easier to work on and the accessibility of getting Indian parts? I’m a new guy scouting out the motorcycle game. I was interested in HD but then saw the Indian line up. Please throw some knowledge.
I've had the Scout for about... 600 miles so far. I did the oil change myself and have a video up on the channel showing that. It's not a hard bike to work on. I can turn a wrench, but I don't touch engine internals. I think you will be okay. So far, the maintenance and reliability of the Scout is spot on. Kind of early to tell the long term aspect, but so far it's solid.
Such a fantastic informative vid. Thank you. It’s going to be hard for someone like me who recently put down a deposit to negotiate I feel considering now everyone wants this bike lol. I don’t have a different dealer to negotiate against because no one has it and everyone wants it. Honestly considering triumph at this point due to worry they’ll try and screw me on price. Zero walkway power because if I do they’ll sell it within 5 minutes to the next person so...bit of a tough spot.
Nice bike, nice review. After seeing this bike and the new 2018 Harley Fat Bob, I’m leaning more toward the the Harley for engine displacement, styling, and overall execution. Good on Indian for another beautiful bike.
ThaRedPitbull-Mix abs isn’t that great in my opinion. If you’re instinct is too always squeeze tight or slam on the brakes you’re best bet is abs. Your breaking distance is always reduced and stopping distance is shorter without abs if you’re experienced enough or good at braking. In reality just as an example you don’t want abs or traction control on a track when you’re looking to get faster times, better braking, and quicker acceleration.
i picked up a 2017 Victory octane that had the factory passenger seat, pegs, and tachometer installed.... $12k sticker price for $7600 out the door..!! For those who dont know that is basically the identicle bike as the bobber. Actually the Octane makes more power. With victory closing up shop... i got a steal
That is a hell of a deal! I sat on a white Octane last year and fell in love with it, my wife had to drag me out the door or I probably would have bought it that day. Instead I ended up buying a 2018 Scout Bobber in August, but yeah nearly the same bike. And I REALLY like that add-on tachometer the Octane has...wonder if the Scout will ever get that option.
@@BlackbirdSSR Mine is the flat white..!! Looks great on the bike. I traded in a suzuki sfv 650 for the octane. In all honesty it is just as comfortable and just as quick.
They gave me a quote for a Bobber Scout ABS, but on top of that , they are attaching a FREIGHTcharge of $588. and another charge of $500. for SET UP fee. Are any of those fees legit or BS? Thanks
It's very rare to see an indian bike on the streets. Up here in Wash State, I've seen less riders every year for the last 15 years. Most still ride Hawleys and mix of imports. Honestly, I don't know how any dealership makes any money when production has stopped or limited, not to mention bikes are a hard sale vs a car. Wut sucks is that Indian charges a premium for any color other than black! That pissed me off...
I did. Some dealers do it differently. Once I got it verbally (which of course wasn't official and was a ball park estimate), it was sent over email for confirmation.
JBthePsycho Depends on what you're looking for in a ride. Finances, New versus used, look, etc. Scouts are cheaper than the Bobs. So, what are you looking for?
Thanks for these videos, bro. I love your channel and appreciate your transparency on everything. I'm looking into purchasing a Scout Bobber in bronze or silver smoke relatively soon. Interesting fact: I actually just moved back home (Clarksville, TN) from Bessemer, AL in February. Saw you bought yours in Magic City. Are you from Bham?
I like the bike I end up buy a softail slim but on the gap . I did replacement on my insurance . Mine covers otd including all fees . Actual otd plus 3 k on accessories. For and additional 50 per year over cash value that most coverages are. Because the gap was 500 it was 500 before interest. Also it only cover gap on mine it covers otd price so if it get stolen a year later I got some money coming my way . So 50 at 5 years is 250 spread out. Also when you feel right-side up on the bike it's easier to drop it vs trying to get your partial refund back. If you trade the bike in some of us know it's s pain to get.
You did well on your purchase! Lot of people are afraid to negotiate prices of bikes. Also, a lot of people don't know what gap is either. Just as important to have and know about the ins and outs versus just insurance.
hey curious, how much did it come out to a month how many years? that always matters the most to me because I'm willing to pay a few more years at a convenient price monthly, I figure what good to have a lower overall price if I'm pushing it monthly year after year. I like the breathing room and peace of mind of a lower monthly payment.
I base it on several factors. I say get what you want upfront if you can afford it and also if you have the skill level. The Scout 60 isn't pushing as much power as the Bobber, but both can get you in trouble of course. I recommend getting the M endorsement on your license and also taking a safety course. Reason being, both will contribute to lower insurance premiums, your skill level and also allowing you to test ride bikes at demo events. And of course your overall confidence level will be higher. So, if you got the basics down and want a Bobber, I say go Bobber. If not, go Scout 60.
Thank you for all of your videos. Perhaps it is answered somewhere else but why not the ABS version? Have you taken a ride on the Victory Octane? I know it’s no longer in production but the bike can be found at some pretty reasonable prices and low miles. Thanks again
I let the channel subs help me decide between the Triumph Bobber and the Indian Bobber. No abs because I haven't had a use for it. Didn't go with the Octane because the Indian was new and would pull new peeps to the channel.
Brandon Bicasso thanks for the response. Appreciated. So if you were just a regular rider without a TH-cam Channel and with all of your current knowledge of the Scout Bobber; if you had the Bobber next to the Octane and the decision to buy either one knowing that the Octane is $6K less; what would you choose?
Brandon Bicasso I agree. That Bobber is a brilliant looking machine. I simply can’t justify the difference in cost for what will ultimately be a “hobby” bike. I’ll get the Octane and wait a couple years to find a nice used Bobber. Thanks for all your work, time and effort on your videos. Great stuff!
I am in negotiation right now for an Indian Bobber and trying to figure out how to get them to lower the total. When you were negotiating did they mention where they where dropping the price such as dropping processing fee or Dealer set up? Looking at almost $1000 in taxes and trying to save somewhere.
Nah, I just told them my set price which was 12,500. They did their own math and figured it out. However, they did make changes to the destination fees, set up fees and taxes.
I'm some instances. For me I had both. Not gonna lie.. A dealership you don't buy a bike at will treat you different especially knowing you went with a competitor.
It can pay to haggle with them. Sounds like you got a decent deal. Over here, the best I can do would be $18,600. Our taxes on new bikes are just mad. Enjoy the bike. It is totally badass.
Yeah, I was eating the cost on that a bit. Got it from the dealer because my insurance company doesn't offer it. I can always get a refund on it, though.
oh, ok thats not even a big deal then. so you still like the bike? Thinking either one of these or a Victory Octane. I think i can get the victory octane out the door at like $6500 maybe 7 they are posted at $6995
I have not had a bike since i rode dirt bikes as a teenager but i have been wanting one of these for a while now since they came out. I have been looking a lot into accessories . Wondering if there are companies could build a back rest so you could turn this bike into a long distance ride sort of bike. Is that a possibility for something like this , may have to change the handle bar style as well ?
Nice bike dude. Hope you're happy with it. I have the 17 standard scout in thunder black and love it. I got 0 percent interest for the length of the loan...
I test rode it and loved it. They thought I was crazy for wanting to trade a 2018 Harley Road King special but it didn't fit my riding. You live and you learn I guess. I'll pick it up Tuesday
Nice video, you made good deal, and with the closest dealer which means a lot.And your video will help people who are shopping for the the same bike. Some people are insulted if you ask them what they paid.I have some friends that over paid a ton for their new bikes , especially the upper end Harley's.And when they sensed they got screwed they never want to talk about it.So enjoy your new bike.
Oh nah... You can look up the MSRP of the thing so might as well talk about it. The only thing not guaranteed is what deal you walk out the door with. Had I not negotiated, I would have loss more in the long term so why not share how to get the best deal you possibly can, right?
what is your tax rate where you live? cause the selling price may have been less then 12k cause when I hear out the door that includes tax title, reg, and any after sale.
Wow ! Didnt know a dealer can do that. Thanks ! I'm in Alberta Canada (5% GST) and the MSRP for the Thunder Black smoke version is CAD $ 15499. I have added accessories worth around 800 bucks. With documentation charges, PDI, taxes and everything included the bike comes out to be $ 18k which is what the dealer wants to sell for. Now looking at how you went about you purchase, I'm considering making a counter offer in the region of $16500-17200. Any suggestions ?
I think my power play in my situation was having another dealer to compete for my money which drove the price down with each negotiation. I'd definitely offer it. Don't be afraid to hear "No".
Yes, I experienced tank slap, but I also was on a very bad piece of road with potholes. Over 2500 miles and never experienced anything like that until my accident.
@@BrandonBicasso Copy that! I love those bikes and havent even got one yet. As I told others, a Ytuber went on a test ride day and hit a piece of bad road; he caught it in time. You can tell it spooked him. I have to find that vid and share it. I think a steering stabilizer (shock absorber for the front forks) would probably be the fix. This may be an issue that Indian may not know of.. Thanks for the update Brandon and hope to see you back on the road (with a steering stabilizer) :))
They both do. Removes some of the restricting air flow of the stock mufflers. The full exhaust would pack the biggest punch, though. You'd need to get a tune and air filter to maximize the potential, though.
At this time, I had a Sena 10C on the left side for audio and the GoPro 4 mounted to the right. I'd run both at the same time and take the audio from the Sena and sync it to the GoPro. Got rid of the Sena and moved to a Sony lavalier mic and Tascam recorder.
@@pmz1981 did you end up doing any business with Indian in olathe? I'm just curious because I live up in Cameron mo. I haven't heard if they're good to deal with or not.
Brandon Bicasso cool man! Thanks for getting back to me and I will definitely check that out. I have a guy from a Harley-Davidson dealership that wants to get me on a Sporter 48 XL or something. I like that too but this scout bobber is just singing to me. I'm supposed to meet with him Friday so he can get me seated on some to see what I look like and what I would like best.
Nice deal! I wish they could work with me like that in Houston, TX. I'm currently working with 1 dealership and best they can do is $280 monthly, 60months, 6%... 😔
Hey Brandon. Please clarify something for me as I've never purchased new from the dealer. When you say "out the door" -- do you mean $12,500 including sales tax, freight, docs and tags. Or was all that extra? Thanks. Enjoy the new ride!
Wow. I recently got a quote for the same Scout Bobber w/ABS for $14.5k OTD in NJ. So you got the Bobber for about $2.5k less than they they are quoting locally. Thanks for the info. This is very helpful.
I own a sport bike but want to pick up a cruiser. I rode my friends 48 and could get pretty low on it, but I wasn't sure if I would be able to carve decently with the bobber.
@@BrandonBicasso Very true... also to give you more great news. Your bike will be getting a $2,000 bump in equity come June 1st 2022. I received confirmation from several dealerships that Indian will be bumping up prices on motorcycles across their entire portfolio by 15%. The current MSRP is $12,899, which means an additional $1,950 so that's $14,849 MSRP in one week. This usually translates to used bikes as well; sounds like you really take care of your bike, so enjoy the additional $$$. I just bought mine OTD for $15,678 so this price bump is very good news to my ears since I could probably sell it for what I bought it for. Anyways... I plan on keeping this ride for quite awhile and doing some travelling on it. Best wishes, and if you're ever in Utah feel free to reach out.
Mar Vel Yes, I've ridden the Bobber. I have a test ride on my channel. Also, this video explains why I went with the Scout. th-cam.com/video/hnE-vQn2PLQ/w-d-xo.html
Ok I just watched your video explaining why you went with the Indian . I guess you weighed up the pros and cons and made your choice . Grats and enjoy your new ride . OH wait till you check out the Triumph bobber BLACK lol maybe you should have waited a little longer . Ride safe .
@Brandon Bicasso Yup, it was exactly 17 786 dollars. It was a scout bobber twenty. My eye dropped when I got the price. Yet the bike sold. I guess it is a seller market.
😂 the whole negotiating your interest rate is BS. That’s not how that works. Especially when you’re financing through your dealer. They can quote you all day, but your credit is the only thing that matters.
Never and I mean NEVER tell a dealership what interest rate you are comfortable with. The finance guy gets a range after they send off your credit app and they try to hit you on the high side because of kickbacks from the finance companies. I worked at a car dealership and that is what I was told during training. If you want the best deal the do as follows, call the dealership and ask for a cash price out the door. Give them the price you want to pay and stick to it. If they can't meet it move on to another dealer. Be realistic on the "cash" price though! 12k is reasonable but they got their money on the back end of a 60 month loan at 5%. GO TO YOUR bank and get a preapproval and/or check your credit to know what interest you qualify for. I bet you could have got the 2.99% all banks were offering at the time of this video. That's how I do it anyway!! Just food for thought next time!
Brandon Bicasso I did. But you could have screwed yourself in the long haul. Just never a good idea to let them start high. The second dealership competing for your business saved your rates.
I'd be foolish to have walked in and said I wanna pay this much per month or just accept the quote they gave me without negotiating. This bike hadn't been out long so I knew negotiating a msrp price out the door was slim so I pushed 12 as my out the door price and I got that.
I just went and looked at one at the dealer. We worked out a deal of 8K out the door (Non ABS model). I put down 2,500. I finance 5,500. Not trading my Ninja either. Not going to pull the trigger on it until about Late March or April though. My old lady would kill me if I brought another bike home lol. Got to convince her first.
Forgot to add the term! 60 Months so 220.89 a month.
Knowing what you know... If you were to purchase a 2018 Bronze bobber... How much out the door would your $$$ goal be? Please also take into consideration that I'm planning to purchase in July-Sep of 2018. Thanks in advance!!!
That’s pretty good
Apr?
I'm glad came across your channel because with all the loans that i have out there, i'm going to have to negotiate and make them make all the numbers work for me. Look forward to your riding videos !
60 month, you buying a benz?
Bicasso -- 100% smart move going with your local dealership where you have a relationship. I try to keep it local as much as possible. Pays big dividends in the long run. And yeah, the parking deck is pretty chill!
Yeah, I haven't been back to the dealership since buying the Indian, but they were inviting even before buying. Just a great crew of people there.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.THIS VIDEO WAS EXCELLENT.INFORMATIVE AND ADDED INFO,ETC.
You should have kept the money from the gap and invested it in an IRA. Most insurance companies or credit unions can cover gap for less then the dealer. But in retrospect insurance implies what if or in case. I have owned 13 bikes in my life never got gap or extended insurance plan but only once. And I did it because my dealer treats me well and has never let me down. The funny thing is my extended warranty already paid for itself and still have another 4 years of coverage. Enjoy your Indian.
Pedro C Absolutely. I added the Gap insurance into the financing so not $500 up front. Also, my insurance company doesn't offer gap so rather than risk it, I went ahead and got it. I'm big on investing so that's another reason why I didn't buy it outright. :D
Also, gap saved me a few months ago so I don't wanna get caught without it, lol.
Blurry Face Through your dealer or insurance company?
You made a great deal! I hope you have many fun filled miles!
Chas106 G. Thanks! I plan to!
Smart to think of the business relationship. Not worth screwing up a good thing over a few bucks. Given the "other" Murican brand charges an extra $1k for assembly, $400 for freight, and $300 for paperwork, I'd say you did alright, especially given the low price and popularity of that model.
Well done!
saddlebag Oh, they tried to add all of that in there. I just wasn't having it, lol.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Finally someone that knows how to produce content with valuable information. OUT THE DOOR is the only number you should ever discuss with a dealership. I'm gonna buy the 2020 in thunder black smoke.. Hey! you killed dude. Congrats
Ayeee, get it and enjoy it! ❤️
This is such a great video.
Glad you enjoyed it. I like being transparent.
Good looking bike! I'm struggling between preowned HD or a new Scout. I'm digging the Scout!
Switch it up with the Scout. >:) You won't be disappointed. Preowned Scout maybe?
Got my Scout ABS last July from same dealer, ..0% for 72 months and 500.00 of goodies....too bad that offer has apparently gone...still nice bike and good rate bro.....
Dobbie Norris Yeah, sucks they didn't offer that on the 2018s. That's why I wanted to get as close to zero as possible since they had the promotion. I figured if they did it in the 2017s, I could get really close to zero on a 2018.
Thanks so much for the elaborate explanation on your bike and it’s process! I would def go your route. Beautiful bike!
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I'm a new subscriber. Great presentation in your video. Look forward to more.
Thanks, John!
Brandon, you’re bike is badass, and so are you! Ride safe my friend!
Thanks 😎👌
Man good video. I’m getting a bobber here pretty soon just waiting for a nice back pay check to come through. Once I get that I’m feel like a kid in a candy store but after watching this video it kinda settle me down a little. I just got b willing to walking away from the deal till I’m feel good about it...
thanks again!
Diego Alvarez Absolutely! Don't be afraid to say no! When I got to the finance office and got those different maintenance plan offers, I told myself to stick to the plan. Just say no. Go in with a plan and stick to it.
You'll thank yourself later.
So I'm currently shopping for a scout and I'll be gettin one very very soon hopefully, like within the next 3 weeks soon, I'm a new rider so I don't know what the difference between the ABS and non ABS is, all I know is that the non ABS is like 1000 cheaper
ABS is the anti-lock braking system. It prevents locking up the wheels from pressing the brakes too hard. As a new rider, it’s an effective safety feature.
Great video!! What month of the year did call to negotiate the price? Cause I heard the closer to the end of the year, it's easier to negotiate.
I got the bike early Oct. '17
Love these vids
Always shop around. When I bought my Victory Jackpot it was the newest bike in the lineup. I shopped 3 different dealers and I saved $3800.00 between the highest and lowest price and I paid cash.
diamondrmp Whew! You made a killer move!
You're making it really hard to not go out and get this bike dude!
Love the vids!
Wesley Dearman Thanks! Lol, go get one ;). You won't regret it
I test rode the Scout and it was awesome. My current bike is 750, so the Scout was quite an experience. Thanks for the video. Why did you go with a Bobber?
Just wanted something different, lighter, sportier, fresh. All of the above, lol.
Thanks for posting the video man. It’s truly helping focus more on the business aspect. Would you happen to have any insights whether the bike’s maintenance is reliable? Is it easier to work on and the accessibility of getting Indian parts? I’m a new guy scouting out the motorcycle game. I was interested in HD but then saw the Indian line up. Please throw some knowledge.
I've had the Scout for about... 600 miles so far. I did the oil change myself and have a video up on the channel showing that. It's not a hard bike to work on. I can turn a wrench, but I don't touch engine internals. I think you will be okay. So far, the maintenance and reliability of the Scout is spot on. Kind of early to tell the long term aspect, but so far it's solid.
Such a fantastic informative vid. Thank you. It’s going to be hard for someone like me who recently put down a deposit to negotiate I feel considering now everyone wants this bike lol. I don’t have a different dealer to negotiate against because no one has it and everyone wants it. Honestly considering triumph at this point due to worry they’ll try and screw me on price. Zero walkway power because if I do they’ll sell it within 5 minutes to the next person so...bit of a tough spot.
Yeah, this was back when they first released the Bobber. Would definitely be hard to negotiate that now.
Nice bike, nice review. After seeing this bike and the new 2018 Harley Fat Bob, I’m leaning more toward the the Harley for engine displacement, styling, and overall execution. Good on Indian for another beautiful bike.
B702K The FatBob was a nice ride. After finding out 107/114 numbers, I wasn't as impressed for the price. That's just me, though.
Brandon Bicasso I agree with ya about the price. The Fat Bob ain’ cheap.
B702K Not only that, but the Scout has damn near the same power to weight ratio.
Does yours have ABS? I’m trying to decide between the Harley iron 883 and the Indian either 60 or scout bobber
+Brandon Markward No abs
How important is ABS to you since you been riding the bike?
ThaRedPitbull-Mix abs isn’t that great in my opinion. If you’re instinct is too always squeeze tight or slam on the brakes you’re best bet is abs. Your breaking distance is always reduced and stopping distance is shorter without abs if you’re experienced enough or good at braking. In reality just as an example you don’t want abs or traction control on a track when you’re looking to get faster times, better braking, and quicker acceleration.
i picked up a 2017 Victory octane that had the factory passenger seat, pegs, and tachometer installed.... $12k sticker price for $7600 out the door..!! For those who dont know that is basically the identicle bike as the bobber. Actually the Octane makes more power. With victory closing up shop... i got a steal
Great buy! 👌😎
Nice, Brand New?
@@BlackbirdSSR yes sir. 6 miles on the odo...
That is a hell of a deal! I sat on a white Octane last year and fell in love with it, my wife had to drag me out the door or I probably would have bought it that day. Instead I ended up buying a 2018 Scout Bobber in August, but yeah nearly the same bike. And I REALLY like that add-on tachometer the Octane has...wonder if the Scout will ever get that option.
@@BlackbirdSSR Mine is the flat white..!! Looks great on the bike. I traded in a suzuki sfv 650 for the octane. In all honesty it is just as comfortable and just as quick.
They gave me a quote for a Bobber Scout ABS, but on top of that , they are attaching a FREIGHTcharge of $588. and another charge of $500. for SET UP fee. Are any of those fees legit or BS? Thanks
They rolled most of that into the price of mine but a lot of places quote it. I don’t agree with it though.
It's very rare to see an indian bike on the streets. Up here in Wash State, I've seen less riders every year for the last 15 years. Most still ride Hawleys and mix of imports. Honestly, I don't know how any dealership makes any money when production has stopped or limited, not to mention bikes are a hard sale vs a car. Wut sucks is that Indian charges a premium for any color other than black! That pissed me off...
Good video, very informative! sounds like you stuck with what you want, and finally got it...good deal ...your credit
Yeah, the Bobber does have more power. That said, long as you got the basics down I think you could grow into it.
Hi you did all the negotiations over the phone? My dealerships in California said no quotes or offers over the phone.
I did. Some dealers do it differently. Once I got it verbally (which of course wasn't official and was a ball park estimate), it was sent over email for confirmation.
Did you do a down payment or was it 0 down? About to go shopping around this weekend for mine!
0 down. 👌😎
Brandon Bicasso oh you got the sauce my guy...
@@SoccerMr98 I drip sometimes 💦😎
debating over the scout or the scout bobber, any suggestions?
JBthePsycho Depends on what you're looking for in a ride. Finances, New versus used, look, etc. Scouts are cheaper than the Bobs. So, what are you looking for?
Brandon Bicasso looking for a new one and in my area both bikes cost the same
Mm, which one speaks to you more? Which one can you see yourself on? Which one do you feel that you connect with?
Brandon Bicasso i like both but from what ive seen the bobber makes you lean forward and not sure how uncomfortable that can get on long trips
Valid things to think about. For my height, I lean forward a bit, but I can also rest my handles on the footpegs for a more stretched out postion.
Thanks for the video I love the bike I want the bike. question is your 500 gap insurance is that per month or year. thx u
I know this is a year old, not sure if you ever found out, but I just purchased one today, one time 500 dollar charge.
Thanks for the information
David S I haven't forgotten, David. 😂.
Thanks for these videos, bro. I love your channel and appreciate your transparency on everything. I'm looking into purchasing a Scout Bobber in bronze or silver smoke relatively soon.
Interesting fact: I actually just moved back home (Clarksville, TN) from Bessemer, AL in February. Saw you bought yours in Magic City. Are you from Bham?
thanks brotha
I like the bike I end up buy a softail slim but on the gap . I did replacement on my insurance . Mine covers otd including all fees . Actual otd plus 3 k on accessories. For and additional 50 per year over cash value that most coverages are. Because the gap was 500 it was 500 before interest. Also it only cover gap on mine it covers otd price so if it get stolen a year later I got some money coming my way . So 50 at 5 years is 250 spread out. Also when you feel right-side up on the bike it's easier to drop it vs trying to get your partial refund back. If you trade the bike in some of us know it's s pain to get.
You did well on your purchase! Lot of people are afraid to negotiate prices of bikes. Also, a lot of people don't know what gap is either. Just as important to have and know about the ins and outs versus just insurance.
Hey brother, by out the door do you mean with tax and licenses? or was just for the bike and gap? Thanks in advance!
Everything included
hey curious, how much did it come out to a month how many years? that always matters the most to me because I'm willing to pay a few more years at a convenient price monthly, I figure what good to have a lower overall price if I'm pushing it monthly year after year. I like the breathing room and peace of mind of a lower monthly payment.
+Hey There 220.89 60months
awesome thats where I would want to be aswell thanks brother
You got it!
Im a new rider , debating between the scout 60 & the Bobber ... what do u recommend ?
I base it on several factors. I say get what you want upfront if you can afford it and also if you have the skill level. The Scout 60 isn't pushing as much power as the Bobber, but both can get you in trouble of course. I recommend getting the M endorsement on your license and also taking a safety course. Reason being, both will contribute to lower insurance premiums, your skill level and also allowing you to test ride bikes at demo events. And of course your overall confidence level will be higher. So, if you got the basics down and want a Bobber, I say go Bobber. If not, go Scout 60.
Thank you for all of your videos. Perhaps it is answered somewhere else but why not the ABS version?
Have you taken a ride on the Victory Octane? I know it’s no longer in production but the bike can be found at some pretty reasonable prices and low miles. Thanks again
I let the channel subs help me decide between the Triumph Bobber and the Indian Bobber. No abs because I haven't had a use for it. Didn't go with the Octane because the Indian was new and would pull new peeps to the channel.
Brandon Bicasso thanks for the response. Appreciated.
So if you were just a regular rider without a TH-cam Channel and with all of your current knowledge of the Scout Bobber; if you had the Bobber next to the Octane and the decision to buy either one knowing that the Octane is $6K less; what would you choose?
Octane. I'm cheap 😂😂😂 It's literally the same bike other than looks. Also has a wee bit more torque.
I do think the Scout Bobber looks better. Not 6k worth, though.
Brandon Bicasso I agree. That Bobber is a brilliant looking machine. I simply can’t justify the difference in cost for what will ultimately be a “hobby” bike. I’ll get the Octane and wait a couple years to find a nice used Bobber.
Thanks for all your work, time and effort on your videos. Great stuff!
I am in negotiation right now for an Indian Bobber and trying to figure out how to get them to lower the total. When you were negotiating did they mention where they where dropping the price such as dropping processing fee or Dealer set up? Looking at almost $1000 in taxes and trying to save somewhere.
Nah, I just told them my set price which was 12,500. They did their own math and figured it out. However, they did make changes to the destination fees, set up fees and taxes.
Just about everyone buys on emotion and that how they get you. Even worst then there is low inventory or a wait period!
You made the right decision.
+Gun Wraith I think so too!
Do you think a dealer relationship is better than the price? I need some negotiation tips. Thanks!
I'm some instances. For me I had both. Not gonna lie.. A dealership you don't buy a bike at will treat you different especially knowing you went with a competitor.
It can pay to haggle with them. Sounds like you got a decent deal. Over here, the best I can do would be $18,600. Our taxes on new bikes are just mad. Enjoy the bike. It is totally badass.
Photo Biker Oh, wow.. That's ridiculous 😥
Photo Biker wow where are you?
Dublin, Ireland. I did manage to haggle, and got the price down to $18,000 or so (converting from Euro to dollar).
only thing i noticed that i would do different is to buy gap insurance from your insurance company probably would have been like $200
Yeah, I was eating the cost on that a bit. Got it from the dealer because my insurance company doesn't offer it. I can always get a refund on it, though.
oh, ok thats not even a big deal then. so you still like the bike? Thinking either one of these or a Victory Octane. I think i can get the victory octane out the door at like $6500 maybe 7 they are posted at $6995
i Bee Amazin Same power, great engine, slightly different look, part support for 8 more years, and it's cheaper. I say it's a good buy.
I have not had a bike since i rode dirt bikes as a teenager but i have been wanting one of these for a while now since they came out. I have been looking a lot into accessories . Wondering if there are companies could build a back rest so you could turn this bike into a long distance ride sort of bike. Is that a possibility for something like this , may have to change the handle bar style as well ?
Sam Hobson Haven't seen a rider back rest for it yet.
Sounds feasible, though.
Nice bike dude. Hope you're happy with it. I have the 17 standard scout in thunder black and love it. I got 0 percent interest for the length of the loan...
I was looking for 0%, but they only offered that on the 17s. I got it as close as I could! Loving the Bobber, though!
Nice bike, good choice!
Thanks for the info!
iRidez650 You got it!
My dealership wouldn't budge on price. I paid msrp, 400 freight, 150 setup, 150 doc.
That said, are you at least happy with your Bobber?
I test rode it and loved it. They thought I was crazy for wanting to trade a 2018 Harley Road King special but it didn't fit my riding. You live and you learn I guess. I'll pick it up Tuesday
Awesome! Congrats on it. And hey, if it doesn't fit your riding there's no point in keeping it. Riding is about being happy.
I was just offered a new Springfield for $17999. Its MSRP is 22999 you can get some great deals.
Heck of a deal! Are you going to accept the offer?
Does it has ABS? They are charging me 16K out the door. I thought it was way to much. Now I am looking for used.
Nah. They're price gouging.
What a handsome bike.
Gerhard Symons Why thank you :)
Nice video, you made good deal, and with the closest dealer which means a lot.And your video will help people who are shopping for the the same bike. Some people are insulted if you ask them what they paid.I have some friends that over paid a ton for their new bikes , especially the upper end Harley's.And when they sensed they got screwed they never want to talk about it.So enjoy your new bike.
Oh nah... You can look up the MSRP of the thing so might as well talk about it. The only thing not guaranteed is what deal you walk out the door with. Had I not negotiated, I would have loss more in the long term so why not share how to get the best deal you possibly can, right?
what is your tax rate where you live? cause the selling price may have been less then 12k cause when I hear out the door that includes tax title, reg, and any after sale.
Triumph Trianing Group About 4%
I think he's talking minus tags and tax, to make the video universal
What's up still have that bike ????
I don’t.
Looking at a Scout ABS two tone. 13k msrp, quote 13650 not counting tags tax.
.99% apr 36 month
Nice! Gonna pull the trigger?
Brandon Bicasso I did yesterday. Gota take the class in a month and it will be waiting as my first motorcycle
cembandit Heck yeah! Congrats!!!!
Did you have to pay any provincial/federal sales tax on top of the MSRP of $11499?
Nah, dealership took care of that. Bike was 12k all said and done.
Wow ! Didnt know a dealer can do that. Thanks ! I'm in Alberta Canada (5% GST) and the MSRP for the Thunder Black smoke version is CAD $ 15499. I have added accessories worth around 800 bucks. With documentation charges, PDI, taxes and everything included the bike comes out to be $ 18k which is what the dealer wants to sell for. Now looking at how you went about you purchase, I'm considering making a counter offer in the region of $16500-17200. Any suggestions ?
I think my power play in my situation was having another dealer to compete for my money which drove the price down with each negotiation. I'd definitely offer it. Don't be afraid to hear "No".
Great looking bike
stupidscum josh Thanks!
Yes but i'm trying to find out if these bobbers suffer from tank slap. Did you experience it in your crash?
Yes, I experienced tank slap, but I also was on a very bad piece of road with potholes. Over 2500 miles and never experienced anything like that until my accident.
I'd still be riding my Bobber if not for that piece of road.
@@BrandonBicasso Copy that! I love those bikes and havent even got one yet. As I told others, a Ytuber went on a test ride day and hit a piece of bad road; he caught it in time. You can tell it spooked him. I have to find that vid and share it. I think a steering stabilizer (shock absorber for the front forks) would probably be the fix. This may be an issue that Indian may not know of.. Thanks for the update Brandon and hope to see you back on the road (with a steering stabilizer) :))
If you do find it, I'd gladly look it over and give my comments on it. 👌😎
@@BrandonBicasso Check this out Brandon; at the 12 minute mark....
th-cam.com/video/KpStKkk9vjk/w-d-xo.html
How much are your payments a month for the bike that's the same exact bike I want to get it is so badass
220.89
Cool thanks I subscribed to your channel to watch you progress brother thank you for the info
Do you think slip ons add any power? Or go full exhaust?
They both do. Removes some of the restricting air flow of the stock mufflers. The full exhaust would pack the biggest punch, though. You'd need to get a tune and air filter to maximize the potential, though.
How much are you paying monthly and for how many months until your payed off?
220 and 58 months.
Brandon - 220 for 58 months or 60 months?
At the time i posted it was 58 months till it's paid off. Loan term is 60 months, though.
That's a beautiful bike brotha..
Thanks!
Should have checked with your insurance company about gap. Mine offered it for $4 a month. Cheaper than 500 over the life of the loan
No Bueno. They didn't offer it.
But yo, that is hella cheap, though!!
Now would that price differ from state to state?
Joshua Lara Not sure. Msrp is nationwide so I assume you could get it in another state
What credit score range???? High 6s, mid to high 7s ....
I think I had a 740 around the time.
Good deal Man! My Son is thinking about the Scout or Bobber, he needs to understand what he can pay if he does a little negotiating....Thanks!
Anton Heck yeah! Glad I could be of assistance!
How’s the suspension? I hear hard on the groin
Rough. Not worth changing out for my use though
Can you tell me about your helmet and your helmet set up?
At this time, I had a Sena 10C on the left side for audio and the GoPro 4 mounted to the right. I'd run both at the same time and take the audio from the Sena and sync it to the GoPro. Got rid of the Sena and moved to a Sony lavalier mic and Tascam recorder.
Helmet is a RPHA 10
Want to sell the sena 10
Naaah, I use it for music/phone calls.
Yeah, only one dealership around KC.
Mm.. Is that a heavily dominated area for HD?
Yeah, this is Worth family territory (4 maybe 5 Dealerships). Closest Indian dealer is in Olathe. Outside of that is Wichita and St Louis.
@@pmz1981 did you end up doing any business with Indian in olathe? I'm just curious because I live up in Cameron mo. I haven't heard if they're good to deal with or not.
@@mikeessary4925 Unfortunately, I did not.The baggers were a bit out of my price range and the scouts are a bit too small for me.
How tall are you? I'm looking for a first bike, but I don't wanna look like an ape on a tricycle. I'm 6'2 around 225-230 lbs
5'10" Check out the extended reach/footpegs Indian makes for the Scout. Also, you may need another seat and several are available for that.
Brandon Bicasso cool man! Thanks for getting back to me and I will definitely check that out. I have a guy from a Harley-Davidson dealership that wants to get me on a Sporter 48 XL or something. I like that too but this scout bobber is just singing to me. I'm supposed to meet with him Friday so he can get me seated on some to see what I look like and what I would like best.
Is that including taxes?
Yes.
Nice deal! I wish they could work with me like that in Houston, TX. I'm currently working with 1 dealership and best they can do is $280 monthly, 60months, 6%... 😔
Same bike, Indian Scout Bobber
Ouch. I did get the best offer they had because of credit and probably from having two dealerships compete for the deal.
Interest rates are up this year across the board too, though.
im 6'2 would a tall guy like me fit on this bike?
Extended foot pegs and some mini apes should do ya good.
Hey Brandon. Please clarify something for me as I've never purchased new from the dealer. When you say "out the door" -- do you mean $12,500 including sales tax, freight, docs and tags. Or was all that extra? Thanks. Enjoy the new ride!
Alex Rodriguez Correct. It was 12,000 for the bike with everything included. $500 on top of that for the added gap insurance.
Wow. I recently got a quote for the same Scout Bobber w/ABS for $14.5k OTD in NJ. So you got the Bobber for about $2.5k less than they they are quoting locally. Thanks for the info. This is very helpful.
let me guess( indian of Monmouth) I am from the nj as well and they are not looking to move on there prices I am thinking of trying staten island.
Alex Rodriguez Yes, but I don't have ABS.
Do you scape your peg feelers daily? Im worried Im going to get sick of how low it is
Yep. I scrape on probably a quarter of my turns. I'm used to scrapping my M109R pegs so it doesn't bother me anymore.
I own a sport bike but want to pick up a cruiser. I rode my friends 48 and could get pretty low on it, but I wasn't sure if I would be able to carve decently with the bobber.
The Fat Bob has a slightly better lean angle. If you want sport bike type lean angle, you will have to look at a Ducati XDiavel.
You can get a used and fairly new XDiavel between the price of a Scout Bobber/Fat Bob and it comes with more power, lean angle, cruise control, etc.
You think this is a good starter bike?
Sure is if you got the basics of rising down.
For Military Veterans Indian will take care of you. FYI
Good to know 👌🏾
Lmao you got it for $12k out the door? Is this a scout sixty?
I just ordered my scout bobber and it was $15,678 OTD
If this is a scout bobber, no way you get that deal now…
I literally have the paperwork to prove it.
This was in 2017 also. Different times.
@@BrandonBicasso Very true... also to give you more great news. Your bike will be getting a $2,000 bump in equity come June 1st 2022. I received confirmation from several dealerships that Indian will be bumping up prices on motorcycles across their entire portfolio by 15%. The current MSRP is $12,899, which means an additional $1,950 so that's $14,849 MSRP in one week. This usually translates to used bikes as well; sounds like you really take care of your bike, so enjoy the additional $$$.
I just bought mine OTD for $15,678 so this price bump is very good news to my ears since I could probably sell it for what I bought it for. Anyways... I plan on keeping this ride for quite awhile and doing some travelling on it. Best wishes, and if you're ever in Utah feel free to reach out.
@@cneuhauser1 Nah man I wrecked it a year later in 2018. 😂 Pot holes on the interstate caused a tank wobble and I lost it. Great bike though!
Just out of interest...Did you test ride the triumph bobber ? and if so why did you go with the Indian ? ...good video mate .
Mar Vel Yes, I've ridden the Bobber. I have a test ride on my channel. Also, this video explains why I went with the Scout. th-cam.com/video/hnE-vQn2PLQ/w-d-xo.html
Ok I just watched your video explaining why you went with the Indian . I guess you weighed up the pros and cons and made your choice . Grats and enjoy your new ride . OH wait till you check out the Triumph bobber BLACK lol maybe you should have waited a little longer . Ride safe .
Lol, I saw it in black. Ugh, it's beautiful. That said, had I gotten one, I would have gone with the silver/gray.
Not sure If we are talking about the same bike .This is the new 2018 version . th-cam.com/video/FHiX9VytaJ0/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, I was talking about the Bobber. Haven't ridden the Speedmaster.
Im still a lil fresh out of high school, what does interest mean ? And interest rate?
TH-cam how car loans work. You'll fall down the needed rabbit hole.
How much you paying monthly bro how was the deal...
220 over 60 months.
Brandon Bicasso what the heck. I tried for the abs one and they offered 14500
Thats without the financing part yet
Jed Mapeso No, that's the financing part.
Brandon Bicasso you think i can push for 13500 for the abs?
That is cool Brandon! They don’t do that in China!
+LEE Jones LOL. Thanks, Lee!
My plan is to finance through my credit union half of the money and pay the rest down.
Go for it, Jay. It's a great machine!
Sounds like a very good deal to me
I think so too!
Good share.
Damn, times have changed. I just got quoted 18k for a scout bobber...
$18k?! That’s Chief territory.
@Brandon Bicasso Yup, it was exactly 17 786 dollars. It was a scout bobber twenty. My eye dropped when I got the price. Yet the bike sold. I guess it is a seller market.
It is a seller’s market but that’s insane. Where was it located?
@Brandon Bicasso It is located in Palm Bay, FL. Power motorcycles. I was so sad...
Wish I would've watched this before getting my bike...😢😢😢
Getting a similar deal would be tough now. This was 6 years ago 😅
M y dealer just told me that they charge $1000.00 administration fees
Plus its an extra $3000 in Canada plus 13% tax
Ouch.. :/
Check the sound of these pipes. Sounds awesome. th-cam.com/video/04gNKnvfY-U/w-d-xo.html (5:55)
Goratchthemule Those are pretty Dank.. Hmm
How long was your loan?
Brandon Rush 60 months.
Brandon Bicasso Thanks this helps give me some fighting power. Enjoy the bike!
Absolutely!
I'm just walking in with $11k cash when I buy mine!
Did it work for you?
Subscribed!
Sean Sweet! Thanks, Sean!
You live in Georgia? Let’s go ride sometime
Bama 😎
this bike is beautiful I ride triumph Rocket 3 and I love my bike is red color and oh my God is beautiful but this bike I have to have one for sure
Test rode a Rocket 3 once and really enjoyed it
😂 the whole negotiating your interest rate is BS. That’s not how that works. Especially when you’re financing through your dealer. They can quote you all day, but your credit is the only thing that matters.
Sure but I still got a better rate negotiating and the bike right at msrp. 13.7 versus 12.5. It’s pinching pennies, but I’ll negotiate all day
Never and I mean NEVER tell a dealership what interest rate you are comfortable with. The finance guy gets a range after they send off your credit app and they try to hit you on the high side because of kickbacks from the finance companies. I worked at a car dealership and that is what I was told during training. If you want the best deal the do as follows, call the dealership and ask for a cash price out the door. Give them the price you want to pay and stick to it. If they can't meet it move on to another dealer. Be realistic on the "cash" price though! 12k is reasonable but they got their money on the back end of a 60 month loan at 5%. GO TO YOUR bank and get a preapproval and/or check your credit to know what interest you qualify for. I bet you could have got the 2.99% all banks were offering at the time of this video. That's how I do it anyway!! Just food for thought next time!
Did you watch the whole video? Lol.
Brandon Bicasso I did. But you could have screwed yourself in the long haul. Just never a good idea to let them start high. The second dealership competing for your business saved your rates.
I didn't let them start high. I asked for a quote initially and was told 14. I said no to that deal and worked my way from there
I'd be foolish to have walked in and said I wanna pay this much per month or just accept the quote they gave me without negotiating. This bike hadn't been out long so I knew negotiating a msrp price out the door was slim so I pushed 12 as my out the door price and I got that.
Brandon Bicasso I'm paying cash for this bike. Wonder how much I can get them to drop the price for out the door lol
You over paid. My 2015 Ninja ZX6-R 30th anniversary edition was 13K new. I got it for 9K out the door no down payment.
Vile Nation Gaming Congrats! You definitely got a hell of a deal! How has the experience been?
Brandon Bicasso love it. It's on my page if you want to check it out
Brandon Bicasso but love the bike (yours)
I just went and looked at one at the dealer. We worked out a deal of 8K out the door (Non ABS model). I put down 2,500. I finance 5,500. Not trading my Ninja either. Not going to pull the trigger on it until about Late March or April though. My old lady would kill me if I brought another bike home lol. Got to convince her first.
On a 2018 Indian Scout Bobber with MSRP $11.5k? Wow
Black on black..
Right on right 😎🤙