Love the longer style video that demonstrates the whole process! Using the torque wrench, however, to loosen the bolts and dropping it a few times on concrete probably didn't help it and it made me shed a few tears.
Helpful tips....Use the ratchet in the socket set to remove the bolts, not the torque wrench. Also be careful removing nuts and bolts from a warm or hot exhaust. Beautiful bike! Stay safe.
Wait.... I just watched you disassemble the old exhaust system using a torque wrench with no extension then assemble the new system with a standard ratchet and an extension. And then apparently only used the torque wrench on one bolt...... that was really strange. But overall a great video. Best wishes with your new ride.
I plan on getting a 2022 RL asap. I will admit I fast forward through this video to find the DBs difference. Like you I want to shave some lbs but not get too loud. You stated the stock dbs and then glossed over when the Yoshi was installed...not too loud, I like the sound. PLEASE respond with the difference in numbers...my eyes are roo old. I could not see the #$ with a magnifying glass. Thanks for the video...hard to beleive no major publication has not beat you to this comparison.
Hi, great video and thank you for sharing... I was wondering how did you order the Yoshi RS 4 that shows in your video with the decal on the tip and the RS 4 decal on the exhaust? . Yoshimura website it doesn't shows anything for the CRF 450RL 2021? it shows just for the CRF 450 X? also, it shows just one decal on the tip of the exhaust. I am thinking that maybe the one you have is the new style? Could you please let me know where and how you ordered it? I would appreciate it. Thanks again!
@Chicoracing92, so the yoshimura RS 4 does not explicitly show the 450L as an option for purchase (I’m guessing due to emission regulation) however, the 450X exhaust is an exact bolt on and is the one used in the video! I purchased it off motosport.com but you could also check out @SRmoto and srmoto.com to get an understanding of how it works. The exhaust I got has the extra decal on it and I’m not sure if that’s just a cosmetic update. I hope this helps!
Sounds much better. How much did the exhaust and the ecu set you back? Would you say the instructions for the ecu and the preloaded maps are good enough?Thanks from west Tennessee
The combined cost was somewhere around 1300 which is quite steep I will admit. That being said, I do love the combination and I do think its worth it. The instructions and presets that come with the ecu are great. There are also so many forums online where people talk about the different ecu settings they run which have been very helpful. It is kind of frustrating how you cant really buy one without the other (pipe and ecu). I hope this helps!!
@@quinnpacker9219 thanks for the great info. Hitting 1,000 on mine in next couple days and haven’t upgraded to vortex and pipe yet. Think it’s time! Enjoy 😀
Did the yosh / vortex combo last month, woke it up a little. Kinda bummed the pipe decals changed from the old look. Oh well, nothing really to complain about. No more decel fuel cut off!
Bought my new Honda 450RL now!!put on my new Yoshimura pipe From head to muffler and replaced copper gasket now the bike backfires on D acceleration didn't notice yours doing that at all !! But Iam still waiting for my Vortex ECU to come in have been waiting almost 7 weeks !! But they said it will not backfire at all when it's on! Does you're s do it at all now!! ???
Congrats on the new bike! As for backfiring, no, I’ve never had this issue. I have the vortex installed prior to installing the pipe in this video. Once you get the vortex on with the correct style settings for the yoshi, you’ll never have a backfire again!
Hey man curious what settings you were running the Vortex for your stock setup? I picked up my RL a few weeks ago along with the Vortex ECU since I’ll be adding the Yoshi and maybe some air box mods in the future but will be stock for a little while.
I had about a week between the time I installed the vortex and the yoshimura. So the vortex comes with a list of different mappings ranging from 0-10. 0 is listed as the “base ignition map” with a rev limit of 10,200 which matches the standard rev limit. It was a little lean but I increased the idle just a tad and it was all set! I hope this answers your question let me know
@michael lee it does seem to stick out a bit, but I know the fmf system does as well. I’m not too sure why. I went with the yoshimura though because it’s not as loud (to get away with woods riding)
theres a copper crush washer that is recommended you replace every time you remove the header from the engine. I didnt do it in this video but another youtuber pointed it out to me and I went back and did it later. its only a $3 part so I would do it if you can!
Hey sorry for the random question but what rear tire did yours originally have? I swear my dealer charged me for a new one and $185 to change it and it’s the original. Thanks and again great video! About to do the same to mine. 🙂
my bike came stock with the irc GP22, a tire which is next to useless in any terrain other than street or dirt road. I swapped them out for Kenda trakmaster 2
@@quinnpacker9219 thank you once again. Mine has IRC TR8s so on it so guess they swapped them out. They had changed it right when it came in and before I saw it because I heard the stock were crap and just let them order better ones. Now at 1,000 miles I’ve worn the rear out and sliding all over. 99% dirt roads/trails 1% pavement. I was recommended the Kendra and the Starcross 5 medium and the battlecross X30 sound good too. Thanks again
@@lukefish7562 Thats frustrating that they changed it without even asking if you wanted an upgrade! but yeah the Kendas in this video have about 800 miles on them and theyre still going strong! The starcross 5 is an interesting tire because you can flip them for the sharper knobs. Good luck searching!
@@quinnpacker9219 yeah I agree. That’s why I’m glad to be picking this one even though I’m having a hard time deciding. I’m thinking any I’m considering will be an upgrade. Thanks again for your info. Oh one more question for you. I’m 6’2” and think I need some bar risers to make standing more comfortable. What would be your suggestion? Thanks again.
@@lukefish7562 I am also 6'2" and found the stock renthals to be a little short. there are two choices to get higher bars: risers or a taller bar bend. Pro taper has some bar risers but I am unsure how well they work. I have been weary about them since they just stack on top of the stock bar mounts which could make it easier for the bars to be knocked out of alignment. The Rox series of bar risers seem to be popular but $200 seemed a little steep for me. I decided to go with a Pro Taper contour with the CR High bend which is one of the taller bends they have. They have a couple which are even taller if that's what you're looking for. This gives you a stronger, taller bar for a fair price. This is what I would suggest!
So far I have only tried to "1" overall mapping which is the "best trail power map". I have been curious to try the other yoshi maps as well I just havent gotten around to it. As for the fuel maps, I have tried the low setting at a 6 and found that was useful when going very very slow in technical terrain
the exhaust is from motosport.com, as they were the cheapest at the time. it is for the 450X which is an exact bolt on fit for the 450L. As for the tuner, you will need it as the bike runs lean from the factory as is and the exhaust makes it even more lean it will run too hot which is bad for the engine. I suggest the Vortex ECU
www.motosport.com/yoshimura-rs4-full-system-exhaust?mmy=honda;crf450x;2021&mmy_source=pdp&variant[YSH0004]=YSH0004-X001-Y028 It says 450X but it is the same as the 450RL
the vortex ecu has selectable preset tunes. 4 for the yoshimura, 4 for the fmf, and 2 for the stock pipe. No need to go to a dyno which is the best part of the vortex compared to the power commander or other plug ins.
How did your last bike get stolen? I'm in CT too and going to be getting a CRF450RL too. I'm going to get one of those rotor lock alarms. Looks like you are in Bolton! I see the Shady Glen! lol. Well, you got a future riding pal when I get mine.
Got taken right out of my garage when I was home :( I have a GPS tracker and other gadgets to hopefully keep this one safe! Let me know when you get your bike. Im always down to ride
I only rode about 10 miles on just the vortex and didn't notice any significant difference between that and the stock ecu mapping. However, the ecu does have low, mid, and high rpm adjustments which might be beneficial to the jerkiness of the throttle
I can appreciate a mostly unedited long-form install. Thank you.
Love the longer style video that demonstrates the whole process!
Using the torque wrench, however, to loosen the bolts and dropping it a few times on concrete probably didn't help it and it made me shed a few tears.
yeah, just a $10 harbor freight torque wrench dont worry lol
@@quinnpacker9219 I'm relieved then. Have fun with your bike in 2021!
Helpful tips....Use the ratchet in the socket set to remove the bolts, not the torque wrench. Also be careful removing nuts and bolts from a warm or hot exhaust.
Beautiful bike! Stay safe.
Your little grunts while wiping your fingerprints off and adjusting the torque wrench are so cute.
Weird compliment
Wait.... I just watched you disassemble the old exhaust system using a torque wrench with no extension then assemble the new system with a standard ratchet and an extension. And then apparently only used the torque wrench on one bolt...... that was really strange. But overall a great video. Best wishes with your new ride.
This was a great video. I love light but quiet. But choking up a bike sounds wasteful.
I do look forward to buying my electric dirt bike.
Great video, thank you
I plan on getting a 2022 RL asap. I will admit I fast forward through this video to find the DBs difference. Like you I want to shave some lbs but not get too loud. You stated the stock dbs and then glossed over when the Yoshi was installed...not too loud, I like the sound. PLEASE respond with the difference in numbers...my eyes are roo old. I could not see the #$ with a magnifying glass. Thanks for the video...hard to beleive no major publication has not beat you to this comparison.
Hi richard. Stock DB is around 85-90. Yoshimura DB is 100 or so idling. Noticeable, but not obnoxious
The sound when you lifted the tail😂😂😂
Wo....wow OMG..👍👍
Hi, great video and thank you for sharing... I was wondering how did you order the Yoshi RS 4 that shows in your video with the decal on the tip and the RS 4 decal on the exhaust? . Yoshimura website it doesn't shows anything for the CRF 450RL 2021? it shows just for the CRF 450 X? also, it shows just one decal on the tip of the exhaust. I am thinking that maybe the one you have is the new style? Could you please let me know where and how you ordered it? I would appreciate it. Thanks again!
@Chicoracing92, so the yoshimura RS 4 does not explicitly show the 450L as an option for purchase (I’m guessing due to emission regulation) however, the 450X exhaust is an exact bolt on and is the one used in the video! I purchased it off motosport.com but you could also check out @SRmoto and srmoto.com to get an understanding of how it works. The exhaust I got has the extra decal on it and I’m not sure if that’s just a cosmetic update. I hope this helps!
Nicely done! Thanks!
Sounds much better. How much did the exhaust and the ecu set you back? Would you say the instructions for the ecu and the preloaded maps are good enough?Thanks from west Tennessee
The combined cost was somewhere around 1300 which is quite steep I will admit. That being said, I do love the combination and I do think its worth it. The instructions and presets that come with the ecu are great. There are also so many forums online where people talk about the different ecu settings they run which have been very helpful. It is kind of frustrating how you cant really buy one without the other (pipe and ecu). I hope this helps!!
@@quinnpacker9219 thanks for the great info. Hitting 1,000 on mine in next couple days and haven’t upgraded to vortex and pipe yet. Think it’s time! Enjoy 😀
Did the yosh / vortex combo last month, woke it up a little. Kinda bummed the pipe decals changed from the old look. Oh well, nothing really to complain about. No more decel fuel cut off!
I know what you mean. I think you could take that extra decal off though if you wanted to fairly easily. I agree though it just feels more alive
is it just the 450r exhaust?
@@Andrew-qd2er 450X
Bought my new Honda 450RL now!!put on my new Yoshimura pipe From head to muffler and replaced copper gasket now the bike backfires on D acceleration didn't notice yours doing that at all !! But Iam still waiting for my Vortex ECU to come in have been waiting almost 7 weeks !! But they said it will not backfire at all when it's on! Does you're s do it at all now!! ???
Congrats on the new bike! As for backfiring, no, I’ve never had this issue. I have the vortex installed prior to installing the pipe in this video. Once you get the vortex on with the correct style settings for the yoshi, you’ll never have a backfire again!
where was the sound comparison?
Hey man curious what settings you were running the Vortex for your stock setup? I picked up my RL a few weeks ago along with the Vortex ECU since I’ll be adding the Yoshi and maybe some air box mods in the future but will be stock for a little while.
I had about a week between the time I installed the vortex and the yoshimura. So the vortex comes with a list of different mappings ranging from 0-10. 0 is listed as the “base ignition map” with a rev limit of 10,200 which matches the standard rev limit. It was a little lean but I increased the idle just a tad and it was all set! I hope this answers your question let me know
Did the stock exhaust not have the spark arrestor in because it seamed loud for stock
it did. I hadnt modified the exhaust up until this point
One thing about the Yosh header I don’t like is how far it sticks out-seems like the FMF header is tucked in more, maybe protecting it more?
@michael lee it does seem to stick out a bit, but I know the fmf system does as well. I’m not too sure why. I went with the yoshimura though because it’s not as loud (to get away with woods riding)
The Yoshi is quieter than the fmf? Interesting.
Thx for vid.
Dude, your voice sounds like Ross from “F•R•I•E•N•D•S🤣
Did your old exhaust have a gasket or o ring? Mine didn't.. Felt weird just bolting the yoshi on there without it 🤷🏼♂️
theres a copper crush washer that is recommended you replace every time you remove the header from the engine. I didnt do it in this video but another youtuber pointed it out to me and I went back and did it later. its only a $3 part so I would do it if you can!
No post install wrap up???? Damn bro, fail.....
Hey sorry for the random question but what rear tire did yours originally have? I swear my dealer charged me for a new one and $185 to change it and it’s the original. Thanks and again great video! About to do the same to mine. 🙂
my bike came stock with the irc GP22, a tire which is next to useless in any terrain other than street or dirt road. I swapped them out for Kenda trakmaster 2
@@quinnpacker9219 thank you once again. Mine has IRC TR8s so on it so guess they swapped them out. They had changed it right when it came in and before I saw it because I heard the stock were crap and just let them order better ones. Now at 1,000 miles I’ve worn the rear out and sliding all over. 99% dirt roads/trails 1% pavement. I was recommended the Kendra and the Starcross 5 medium and the battlecross X30 sound good too. Thanks again
@@lukefish7562 Thats frustrating that they changed it without even asking if you wanted an upgrade! but yeah the Kendas in this video have about 800 miles on them and theyre still going strong! The starcross 5 is an interesting tire because you can flip them for the sharper knobs. Good luck searching!
@@quinnpacker9219 yeah I agree. That’s why I’m glad to be picking this one even though I’m having a hard time deciding. I’m thinking any I’m considering will be an upgrade. Thanks again for your info. Oh one more question for you. I’m 6’2” and think I need some bar risers to make standing more comfortable. What would be your suggestion? Thanks again.
@@lukefish7562 I am also 6'2" and found the stock renthals to be a little short. there are two choices to get higher bars: risers or a taller bar bend. Pro taper has some bar risers but I am unsure how well they work. I have been weary about them since they just stack on top of the stock bar mounts which could make it easier for the bars to be knocked out of alignment. The Rox series of bar risers seem to be popular but $200 seemed a little steep for me. I decided to go with a Pro Taper contour with the CR High bend which is one of the taller bends they have. They have a couple which are even taller if that's what you're looking for. This gives you a stronger, taller bar for a fair price. This is what I would suggest!
How's the throttle response? How's it feel on and of the gas? Smoother?
Yes, a lot smoother in 1st and 2nd and less choked up than before.
Do your sound test outside, not in a closed garage. Everything sounds louder in a closed space.
Other then that, thanks for the video.
Probably very true.
All that sound reverberating of the floor and walls.
What settings did you end up using with your vortex? Cheers
So far I have only tried to "1" overall mapping which is the "best trail power map". I have been curious to try the other yoshi maps as well I just havent gotten around to it. As for the fuel maps, I have tried the low setting at a 6 and found that was useful when going very very slow in technical terrain
Did you have to trim the side plastic so it wouldn't melt?
I didnt at the time. However, the pipe did melt the plastics a tiny it, but nothing noticeable
Where did u get the exhaust from, and do u need the tuner?
the exhaust is from motosport.com, as they were the cheapest at the time. it is for the 450X which is an exact bolt on fit for the 450L.
As for the tuner, you will need it as the bike runs lean from the factory as is and the exhaust makes it even more lean it will run too hot which is bad for the engine. I suggest the Vortex ECU
Where did you buy this from? I got the same bike.
The climate is warming and in a few thousand years it’ll cool again with or without humans on this planet
Can you send me the link where you bought it?
www.motosport.com/yoshimura-rs4-full-system-exhaust?mmy=honda;crf450x;2021&mmy_source=pdp&variant[YSH0004]=YSH0004-X001-Y028
It says 450X but it is the same as the 450RL
How hard would it be for manufacturers to include a simple heat shield so you don't burn your leg?
Seems like it’s impossible haha. I have seen people but the stock heat shield over the yoshimura header though.
@@quinnpacker9219 How do they attach it? Hose clamps maybe? metal cable ties?
Yes, hose clamps
Do I have to go to a Dyno to tune it up ? Or just by setting it myself it’s ok ?
the vortex ecu has selectable preset tunes. 4 for the yoshimura, 4 for the fmf, and 2 for the stock pipe. No need to go to a dyno which is the best part of the vortex compared to the power commander or other plug ins.
What is the part number for that exhaust kit
224500D320
Do you need a new gasket for the header to head connection ?
No, it bolts right on. It was surprisingly easy
IAM buying one next week but I like my CR 500 HONDA SOUND 100% Better!!!!!!
Top speed?
How did your last bike get stolen? I'm in CT too and going to be getting a CRF450RL too. I'm going to get one of those rotor lock alarms.
Looks like you are in Bolton! I see the Shady Glen! lol. Well, you got a future riding pal when I get mine.
Got taken right out of my garage when I was home :( I have a GPS tracker and other gadgets to hopefully keep this one safe! Let me know when you get your bike. Im always down to ride
Me want one
How was the bike with just the vortex ecu? I have a stock 2021 and want just to tame the jerkieness for tight trails.
I only rode about 10 miles on just the vortex and didn't notice any significant difference between that and the stock ecu mapping. However, the ecu does have low, mid, and high rpm adjustments which might be beneficial to the jerkiness of the throttle
The seat is horrible. Feels like sitting on a 2×4
Seat concepts was my first modification. It's like sitting on a lazy boy. Hope this helps!
Really? you dont have any other ratchet so you have to use torque wrench to loosen the bolts??....lol. I guess whatever floats the boat.
Ventilation dummy!!!