This is a fun look at the mess that was the 3d accelerator market from 1995 through about 1997. The best 3d accelerator of 1996 was definitely the 3dfx Voodoo, although the Verite V1000 wasn't too bad. 3dfx continued to offer the best 3d chips until 1999. Nvidia pretty much caught up to Voodoo 3 with TNT 2, and passed it with the Geforce 256.
No, the Voodoo 5500 was still better than a Geforce 256 because a Voodoo 5500 offered Glide support and this was an important factor in these days, because at that time there were hundreds of games that run perfectly in Glide, but terrible in early DirectX 3 or 5. For those not knowing, the Geforce 256 didn't support Glide, it was not a 3dFX card. The Geforce 256 was only faster than a Voodoo 5500 in DirectX 7 and OpenGL games that made use of T&L, but there were not many of them at the beginning with T&L support and later, there wer better cards. T&L was useless in DirectX 3, 5 and 6. So the first card that was really better than the Voodoo 5500 was the Geforce 2, but not at the older games with very good Glide and bad Direct3d support, which was normal at that time. And that's the main reason why a Voodoo card belongs in a retro PC for games that were made for DirectX 3, 5 and 6. If you don't use a Voodoo, any later Geforce card from Geforce 4 to 7 will do.
I just remember that vquake and the few Windows games that supported the V1000 (like Myth) were awesome at the time. It was my first 3d card. I got it in the late 90s on eBay for $30, and while it didn't really accelerate very much, it made everything look much better. I later got a V2200 which I also loved, however I had to give it up once I got my hands on a Riva128 (played so much Everquest on that) and then later a TNT. All of these were either purchased or found in junk bins a couple years after they came out. I miss the days where 1 year could mean nearly an order of magnitude of speed increases.
My first card with any sort of 3D acceleration was the Matrox Mystique 220. I didn't buy it for the 3D though, as I wasn't into the very early 3D, but rather for the excellent 2D image quality. The first 3D card I had which managed to impress me was the Voodoo 2 with Unreal. That's when I for the first time felt like "I got" what all the 3D fuzz was about.
First time I saw Unreal was on my mate's computer with two Voodoo 2s. The very next day, I brought two Diamond Monsters home :) Then I found out, Unreal was just a brilliant graphics (for that time), but the game itself was rubbish.
@@KITR-UK Unreal Tournament was much better, but this was released a little bit later. The enemy KI of Unreal was quite good at that time, but from a story point of view, Half-life was better.
Thanks, it was so difficult to choose a card back then, I was way to hyped and wanted the card ASAP, at least I choosed the V1000 and little later I got the VooDoo1, it was a blast to see these early 3D graphics on my computer.
@@KITR-UK I believe I read somewhere that John Carmack liked the approach and performance of the verite, if they could had released it when it was scheduled it would had a way bigger adoption rate by the time the VooDoo1 launched.
I have recently found my PCI 3D blaster with rendition verite V1000. I boxed it up to sell back in 1996/97 as being mainly a DOS gamer I thought it was pants. Its in nearly new condition with Warranty cards, manual, software (including quake), static bag and big poster. Is this collectable or quite common?
I actually had a Diamond Edge 3D back in the day, bought it because it claimed to be bringing Saturn ports to the PC. Very interesting card to look back on now, but back then I remember being very disappointed with the performance (the lack of). No idea what happened to that card, needless to say i'm kicking myself I didn't keep it, considering what they go for now.
I had a similar experience. After I got rid of my terrible S3 Virge, I bought Diamond Edge 3D hoping for an excellent card. But "seeing is believing" as was Diamond's slogan back in the day. I saw and believed, it was a piece of crap. I was even more disappointed, than with the Virge. Virtua Fighter ran great, but that wasn't enough to keep the bloody card. I had returned the card couple of days later.
@@KITR-UK i was so excited back the i got the Diamond edge 3d for the same reason just to play virtua fighter on my cyrix 686 120+ and work great but dos games and other run terrible slow. I still have it in my collection
Competition was brutal back in those years. You had to create and release a miracle every single year or be lost to history. 3Dfx won because they knew every PC already had a 2D card/chipset onboard so they focused solely on the 3D side initially. Rendition would have done a lot better if it stuck to 3D for its initial release and didn't have the poor performing 2D core involved.
Do some DOS software rendering comparison tests with your V1000 and compare it to the ET6000 or any earlier Window 2d accelerator videocards like the ET4000/W32 or a Cirrus Logic Chipset 5xxx.
14:42 "these two cards are the only 3D accelerators from the era that were capable of running 3D games at a reasonnable level". Other cards were rubish". Well, as you stated initially, you couldn't find a PowerVR card...
Installing the 3D Blaster PCI card is a pain! The only drivers I can use without crashes are the latest beta reference drivers. Even installing from the original CD gives me lots os issues and it just doesn't work properly.
It was great for my budget Cyrix P200, but hardly the best option because it sacrificed DOS speed. If it wasn’t a 3D accelerated dos game, it was slow.
hey i've been playing around with my s3 virge and voodoo 1 combo the last few weeks too. at first the 3dfx patch for Descent 1 was working, then the next time i tried it I got those black textures too. i dont understand why! the s3 virge on supported games can actually work quite well, as long as it's a really simple game. terminal velocity was a stand-out. descent 2 runs nicely on the virge dx and actually has mouse support whereas the unofficial glide patch does not. great video by the way. i've been interested in the verite ever since seeing vquake a while back on youtube. cheers
@@KITR-UK Yeah, but more importantly, how did you get it? lol "Looks like they bloody jizzed on a pile of shite" - you've been learning from some proper English speakers lol
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Yeah what rough time for 3d at the start. My first card was the voodoo3 2000 PCI.
Glad to see you back to the PC stuff :-)
This is a fun look at the mess that was the 3d accelerator market from 1995 through about 1997. The best 3d accelerator of 1996 was definitely the 3dfx Voodoo, although the Verite V1000 wasn't too bad. 3dfx continued to offer the best 3d chips until 1999. Nvidia pretty much caught up to Voodoo 3 with TNT 2, and passed it with the Geforce 256.
No, the Voodoo 5500 was still better than a Geforce 256 because a Voodoo 5500 offered Glide support and this was an important factor in these days, because at that time there were hundreds of games that run perfectly in Glide, but terrible in early DirectX 3 or 5. For those not knowing, the Geforce 256 didn't support Glide, it was not a 3dFX card. The Geforce 256 was only faster than a Voodoo 5500 in DirectX 7 and OpenGL games that made use of T&L, but there were not many of them at the beginning with T&L support and later, there wer better cards.
T&L was useless in DirectX 3, 5 and 6.
So the first card that was really better than the Voodoo 5500 was the Geforce 2, but not at the older games with very good Glide and bad Direct3d support, which was normal at that time. And that's the main reason why a Voodoo card belongs in a retro PC for games that were made for DirectX 3, 5 and 6. If you don't use a Voodoo, any later Geforce card from Geforce 4 to 7 will do.
I just remember that vquake and the few Windows games that supported the V1000 (like Myth) were awesome at the time. It was my first 3d card. I got it in the late 90s on eBay for $30, and while it didn't really accelerate very much, it made everything look much better. I later got a V2200 which I also loved, however I had to give it up once I got my hands on a Riva128 (played so much Everquest on that) and then later a TNT. All of these were either purchased or found in junk bins a couple years after they came out. I miss the days where 1 year could mean nearly an order of magnitude of speed increases.
My first card with any sort of 3D acceleration was the Matrox Mystique 220. I didn't buy it for the 3D though, as I wasn't into the very early 3D, but rather for the excellent 2D image quality. The first 3D card I had which managed to impress me was the Voodoo 2 with Unreal. That's when I for the first time felt like "I got" what all the 3D fuzz was about.
First time I saw Unreal was on my mate's computer with two Voodoo 2s. The very next day, I brought two Diamond Monsters home :) Then I found out, Unreal was just a brilliant graphics (for that time), but the game itself was rubbish.
@@KITR-UK Unreal Tournament was much better, but this was released a little bit later. The enemy KI of Unreal was quite good at that time, but from a story point of view, Half-life was better.
Creative 3D Blaster was my 1st 3D Card, loved it, managed to keep it going until I sprung for a 1st gen TNT
Thanks, it was so difficult to choose a card back then, I was way to hyped and wanted the card ASAP, at least I choosed the V1000 and little later I got the VooDoo1, it was a blast to see these early 3D graphics on my computer.
Unfortunately, I was impatient back then and bought S3 Virge, it was a disaster, I hated that card...
@@KITR-UK I believe I read somewhere that John Carmack liked the approach and performance of the verite, if they could had released it when it was scheduled it would had a way bigger adoption rate by the time the VooDoo1 launched.
I have recently found my PCI 3D blaster with rendition verite V1000.
I boxed it up to sell back in 1996/97 as being mainly a DOS gamer I thought it was pants.
Its in nearly new condition with Warranty cards, manual, software (including quake), static bag and big poster.
Is this collectable or quite common?
잘봤습니다~ 베리떼 1000 너무 멋찐 칩셋이에요!
I actually had a Diamond Edge 3D back in the day, bought it because it claimed to be bringing Saturn ports to the PC. Very interesting card to look back on now, but back then I remember being very disappointed with the performance (the lack of). No idea what happened to that card, needless to say i'm kicking myself I didn't keep it, considering what they go for now.
I had a similar experience. After I got rid of my terrible S3 Virge, I bought Diamond Edge 3D hoping for an excellent card. But "seeing is believing" as was Diamond's slogan back in the day. I saw and believed, it was a piece of crap. I was even more disappointed, than with the Virge. Virtua Fighter ran great, but that wasn't enough to keep the bloody card. I had returned the card couple of days later.
@@KITR-UK exactly 🤣
@@KITR-UK i was so excited back the i got the Diamond edge 3d for the same reason just to play virtua fighter on my cyrix 686 120+ and work great but dos games and other run terrible slow. I still have it in my collection
Competition was brutal back in those years. You had to create and release a miracle every single year or be lost to history. 3Dfx won because they knew every PC already had a 2D card/chipset onboard so they focused solely on the 3D side initially. Rendition would have done a lot better if it stuck to 3D for its initial release and didn't have the poor performing 2D core involved.
Do some DOS software rendering comparison tests with your V1000 and compare it to the ET6000 or any earlier Window 2d accelerator videocards like the ET4000/W32 or a Cirrus Logic Chipset 5xxx.
14:42 "these two cards are the only 3D accelerators from the era that were capable of running 3D games at a reasonnable level". Other cards were rubish".
Well, as you stated initially, you couldn't find a PowerVR card...
Installing the 3D Blaster PCI card is a pain! The only drivers I can use without crashes are the latest beta reference drivers. Even installing from the original CD gives me lots os issues and it just doesn't work properly.
I've had some problems with the early drivers as well. But the latest VRX drivers worked perfecly.
It was great for my budget Cyrix P200, but hardly the best option because it sacrificed DOS speed. If it wasn’t a 3D accelerated dos game, it was slow.
hey i've been playing around with my s3 virge and voodoo 1 combo the last few weeks too. at first the 3dfx patch for Descent 1 was working, then the next time i tried it I got those black textures too. i dont understand why! the s3 virge on supported games can actually work quite well, as long as it's a really simple game. terminal velocity was a stand-out. descent 2 runs nicely on the virge dx and actually has mouse support whereas the unofficial glide patch does not. great video by the way. i've been interested in the verite ever since seeing vquake a while back on youtube. cheers
I tried reinstalling the the game, different versions, different memory managers, entire different PC, I just couldn't make the Descent working...
vQuake yes!
Today - NVIDIA and AMD, not ATI
I know, I still tend to say ATI though.
Today it is NVIDIA, AMD and Intel.
your frog accent is like sandpaper on my eardrums
On mine too. But that's the best I could do :)
@@KITR-UK Yeah, but more importantly, how did you get it? lol
"Looks like they bloody jizzed on a pile of shite" - you've been learning from some proper English speakers lol