2016 BMW 340i Road, Track & 0-60 MPH Review - TFL Leaderboard Hot or Not Ep.9
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This car without the M-Sport pack does not look good. That really transforms the 340i, as it adds all the exterior aggressive styling, electronic dampers, and that sexy M steering wheel.
RSR but this is the perfect sleeper ☝️
And even worse: have you driven an F30 without M-Sport suspension? Like a big blancmange! 😃 I had a day with one when looking to change my E90.
iDrive is the best ..what r u talking about?
Agreed, how can he say it's not the best? The buttons on the iDrive controller are shortcuts which are very functional. If you take the time to learnt he system it's extremely easy to navigate.
These cars have aged really well. Even though the interiors are simple in design, it cannot be denied that the materials are great and it reinforces driver focus. They are a solid deal nowadays and I do believe they have aged much better in overall style compared to C class. Especially with the M sport package.
I drove one of these for the first time yesterday and I think I fell in love. This will be my next car.
Does the iPhone have too many submenus?
I use the iDrive and I have no issues when driving.
You nailed it for us. The iPhone doesn't really have submenus in the traditional BMW iDrive systems architecture set up.
Me to. I don't have a problem with it.. idrive is regarded to be the best of the lot.
Yep same. No issues with iDrive. On a daily basis I don't find myself digging deep into submenus, especially when driving. Also the voice recognition is one of the best in the business.
iDrive is also why I didnt buy the Cadillac ATS. The Cue system is just atrocious.
No matter how complicated a system is, if you use it for long enough it'll eventually get to the point where it's very easy to use. The point Roman is trying to make it that this system requires some knowledge on what the controller does and how to get to the menu you're trying to get to. Like in a touch screen system you find in cheaper cars, you can access everything just with a click of a button or touch. No need to scroll through 50 things just to change the radio station. I prefer complex systems like iDrive because once you master them you'll realize that everything has a shortcut and it's very user friendly. But for basic folks who don't know anything about technology, this is a nightmare. They'll figure out touch screen systems in Camry and Altima family quickly but using iDrive or MMI system will be frustrating.
iDrive has two key ergonomic wins for me; 1 - Shortcut keys. The 8 keys on the dash are configurable to common settings and menu options you use daily. 2 - The shortcut keys around the controller are great for muscle memory use.
I wonder how the lap time would have been with m sport, track package, rwd and summer shoes.
BMW's iDrive is the best in the world. It's super easy to use and it's super fast
Much better systems out there than i-drive? ...ok, name one.
quattro
@@mirbehah4477 i-drive is the infotainment system or on-board operating system. Quattro has nothing to do with that.
iDrive is bad Roman? Try Lexus. There is absolutely nothing intuitive about the Lexus system.
i love lexus but i agree, their infotainment makes me want to kill myself
I had a 2007 LS460 and the touch screen was very easy to use. The 2013 GS350 I got as a rental every time I took LS for service had a complicated system that required more attention while driving. But in the end I still liked the newer much larger screen and infotainment system as a whole. It just seems cooler and I prefer my screen to not have finger prints all over.
Got used to it in a week. 2015 gs 350
I just purchased a new 2017 BMW 340i with the M Performance Sound and Power Kit and i absolutely love it! Very quick and agile in sport mode. Great and soft ride in comfort mode. High quality materials and has a ton of options!
Great show, guys. The thing about bang for the buck -- the M2 currently goes for sticker (and above) while it isn't at all difficult to get the 340i for 10-11% under sticker. Would've wanted to see a 340i with the so-called "track" package (adaptive suspension, variable steering, bigger brakes) tested (that's what I have :) ).
Look lets face it, the 340i is a beast with the new B58 .. 4.8S 0-60 @ high altitude come on!?!? thats awesome!
Also these guys were tracking a version of the 340 which isn't the best track configuration being sold .. try adding track handling package and add the Michelin pilot super sports .. that'll shave a few seconds off track time..
MSport looks much better as well as many have mentioned already
..and Paul was saying its not hot when compared w/ M2.. but hes opining based on track handling alone whilst the 340i can do much more (luxury/prestige, haul people and double as a race car, etc)and is more of a total package on the road than the M2
You gotta know how to configure the top end 3-series to get the right driver.. and its hot.. pricey but it wear many hats
Wait, so you're telling me the dashboard has MPH and RPM AND engine temp!? Amazing!
Just recently had a go in a chipped F30 335d xDrive producing ~380hp and .. wait for it ... 730NM of torque .. And yes, it's fast. Real fast! Loved it.
Bmw's diesel are fantastic, i drive around a lot in a x5 m50d (not mine) and the torque of the engine is fantastic, one very fast suv.
But still, i would probably take the petrol straight six from bmw
dominic graber They are! It doesn't have that diesel annoying rumble either. It sounds pleasant.
+Nik Brudar thats right altough the sound is played trough the speakers on de x5 m50d
dominic graber I opened the window and listened. And also from the outside.
I owned one here in the US. I tuned it. From 60mph to 150mph, there wasn't much that could stand with it. Great car.
Roman - you do realize the F30 came out in 2012!!!!! the 2016 is just a refresh not a new generation, stop bitching about interior design compared to Cclass and A4 that are all new cars! BTW seats, driving position, and iDrive are still way better than any of its competitors.
I am a lifelong "BMW guy" and currently have a 2014 335 and a 2016 C450 and I am sorry to say that the F30 BMW interior isn't all that different from my 2008 E90...it feels ancient. While I believe iDrive is still better than the COMAND system in terms of ease of use, I must strongly disagree with you on the seats and driving position. The Mercedes seats are an order of magnitude better than the seats in my F30. Better leather, more adjustments and better alignment with the peddles and steering wheel (which is also WAY better than the Bimmer)! I only hope that the G20 (2018 model year 3 series I believe) is everything it is supposed to be because Audi and MB are not resting on their laurels.
What, the F30 interior is miles better than the interior in the E90. It is completely different. Again the 3er is barely an entry level premium car. if you want better leather the a 5er is the next best choice. I agree that the MB is a lot more plush, but that has always been the case. The new C class is very nice feeling, but I for one prefer the F30 interior.
Like another comment said, get the car with M-Sport package and dare I say ditch the X-Drive, and then give it another drive. I have a '13 328i Sport Line, and my has a six speed manual trans. Sure, the auto is faster, but the manual is so much more fun. I have a smile on my face every time I drive it.
I have this car. Picked up estroil blue m-sport month ago. Had the first gen f30. this LCI is hands down much better. The 340 is a monster, steering is more direct, only issue is brakes feel more soft than my 2013 335 hybrid did. Yes interior is not like a Mercedes but having had so many bmws between myself and my family, the ergonomics and Idrive, handling, speed of cars, is way ahead of any other manufacturer. Yes it's expensive but you get what you pay for. Bmw always lies about actual horsepower and torque. The car makes closer to 320 at wheels which is about 360 on drivetrain. THATS why BMW always feel faster, they have more power than Bmw states!!
I have a 340i equipped with M Sport package, adaptive suspensions and M Sport breakes. I love it!
Excellent review guys, good camera angles, nice 0-60 (car and driver got 4.9 with manual), and your new driver is a great addition to the show. Keep up the good work!
Love the videos. The hot/cold drink reference can be retired lol
Agreed. It got tiring really fast
I agree with Paul on this one, the price makes it not hot. The other point that makes this car appear to be over-priced is the lackluster interior for this class at this time. Other than that, it's a fine machine.
Not a new generation, it's a mid cycle refresh and a minor one at that. The new engine is a gem, but so is the N55.
We are a Toyota/Lexus family. My son is a BMW fanatic and has this same car as a 2013 335i Xdrive and it is a fantastic looking/driving car. Feels solid and is fast as hell! Our 0-60 is in the low to mid 4's. Love Love the materials and design of the interior. It might be dated but makes you feel like your in a BMW and there is nothing wrong with that!
That b58 motor is no joke lol!!!
if you got the m sport package it solves the styling and steering issue and if you got the adaptive suspension it would dove that issue as well
I've got one, and coming from an 2013 328i the difference it's astonishing.
I didn't think it was possible to make a BMW seem boring, but this reviewer has done the impossible.
BMW is a luxury appliance nowadays
Can you draw a comparison between the 340i and the new Q50S Red Sport with 400hp? I have a 2008 335xi with numerous modifications and have been experiencing many problems over the years. BMW's ride really well in terms of handling and performance, however, they are certainly known for their poor reliability. I'm trying to decide between the 340i and the Q50S Red Sport. They are are both incredible machines!
It's a BMW. It's ALWAYS hot!
The deeper submenus are mostly used once, and often when standing still, to set up the car or other systems as you want them. iDrive is considered as the best in the market. And if you order your car with every option, like this car (hence why it was so expensive), of course the number of systems that the iDrive have to manage will increase.
The b58 engine is a beast
I agree with most comments, just not about the Idrive, the new system is generally very well regarded compared to the other systems out there.
Roman you nailed it on the interior. I own a 2015 335i and the new car isn't that much different, neither is the boost response despite what was said...the interior definitely lags the new A4 and the new C Class. It also has quite a lot of road/wind noise compared with the other two germans.
You're complaining about the steering wheel and testing performance, why did you guys not get an M Sport (M Sport is not an M3) car or a car with the M Adaptive suspension? M Sport package also gets a MUCH better steering wheel. The basic X Drive suspension even in the LCI cars is too soft. iDrive is fantastic to live with day-to-day.
BMW has its work cut out for it on the next iteration of this car. I will likely not return to the brand for my daily driver unless they get back to their roots focused on steering response, steering feel, and at least a competitive interior and road/wind noise levels which in my opinion they lack.
Oddly, while the current 3 series even in M Sport guise is a touch soft, they do turn in nicely when driven hard, they also hang on well, lots of grip! But you give up a lot of the initial feel that the cars were famous for which is unfortunate because you can't drive at 8/10ths or more on your daily commute.
First video I’ve watched from TFL and I like the format.
I don’t understand the focus on comparing this to an M2. Yes the pricing is/was similar but I doubt people are cross shopping against an m2
It is easy to dis the 340i but considering the AWD and the all season tires of the tester, it performs very well. There is no other AWD sedan that comes close to this level of performance, handling, and fun to drive. The other thing is that they last. I have a 2006 330i that is still very nice to drive. 174,000 kms and no rattles or squeaks. You won't say that about a Cadillac CTS in 10 years.
Audi s4.
+Big Boss no...
Brownie s4 is got legendary awd, dual clutch transmission, sports diff and WAY better speakers and don't forget nappa leather and sport seats.
Cadillac CTS compares to the 5 series, Cadillac Ats compares to this one and is better!
That is your opinion. The automotive world disagrees with you :)
pick up my 340i this weekend!!
With a downpipe and tune this b58 engine is a monster. You don't need the m badge to get the power.
What!? Idrive is the absolute most intuitive system. "There is a lot of better systems out there". Could you name a few?
"A steering wheel is what I look at all the time".... What?!?!? -100 credibility points
I look at that chicks
This series from fast car lane is the only one I watch. Really value Paul's opinion of the cars. Would like it if you wrote out the exact specs of the car in the description. Was interested to know if steering feel improved with 2016 lci and whether this car was spec'ed with vss or not.
It took me a day in buying my car to understand all of the features, and I mean in the time it took me to drive home from the dealership.
Dude are you serious? This car's tech is better than any competitor.
you guys should show the corrected numbers also ...
I don't understand why there's still blinkers on BMWs since nobody ever uses them.
I like how those who defend their favorite LCD infotainment systems are all arguing about intuitiveness and ease of use... From my perspective, as the owner of a car with no screen and all controls separated into the various dials and buttons, few modern systems are as easy to use, especially without looking.
Actually great car for me :)
Really cool driving machine.
Totally agree that BMW needs to step up their interior. Not only the design but the build/material quality. In the luxury segment, BMW feels like a step below their competitors. Its not just about looking "pretty" and "elegant", its about feeling luxurious and expensive, and feeling like the company put attention to the detail. I think my biggest quirk with the interior is the cheap feeling/looking leatherette and plastics.
BMW's standard steering wheels are always pretty crappy. Probably to push people into the M-Sport (originally just Sport) packages... the E46 4-spoke is awful, while the Sport wheel is still quite good today. As clunky as iDrive is, you really do get acquainted with it after repeated use, it's straightforwardness makes it easy to use without looking at the screen once you remember menu positions.. E46 owner, but have access to F30s.
Should have tested an M-Sport at least.
This is what competition does. This is BMW's response to Jaguar XE which had kicked BMW 3 Series around in comparison test.
Nearly all the BMWs I've had here in the UK have had their traditionally somewhat spartan interior. That's something I'm guessing we've just got used to. They're always too expensive, but I think we Brit's probably balance that with our desire for a supposedly safer, though more sporting driving experience. Many, of course, think the badge makes them more socially elevated. For me personally, I would like to think we at least got leather as standard, but other than that, the other 'boy's toys' are not really important, and at my age frankly I don't place much importance on what other social climbers think of me. When I think back. Both BMW and Mercedes used to count virtually any 'customer option' as an extra and charge you for it(through the nose usually). They didn't even include a radio!.........David(UK)
Agreed that price is a killer that's if you buy it new. However if you get it as a CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) then it's an incredible deal considering you can get it for between 30% to 45% below the original out the door price of the first owner. Gotta love the BMW CPO program. =D
😄an m2 is so much smaller awkward for rear passengers. Get an msport with great steering wheel and better suspension Get the adaptive suspension for greater comfort with any tires and better handling in sport providing you are not on runflats. Beware of changing from run flats if XDrive. Better to go for RWD. Spec the black wheels as they come without runflats for better handling comfort and less noise. Most time you are driving so to me at least, it’s logical to place greater emphasis on how the car drives than how it looks, the drive is most important. Yes look of interior is not quite as nice as Audi or Mercedes but drive is most important and why I chose a 3 series over Merc and Audi latest offerings in 2016 BM is much more comfortable than Audi and much more enjoyable to drive than either. It still looks great and you have choice between some really ace colours. I chose Estoril Blue. Always looks great.
BMW lost about 45 HP at that altitude. If it was at sea level, it would have been faster :).
You high? Better interior on c class or A4...
The comments about the interior are valid but also not. ;) Its style over substance. Being an owner of a '14 I was definitely having some interior envy when the new C class was launched. My mine quandary was how Benz was able to offer that interior at that price point. Once I got to see and touch one it became obvious. The Benz interior looks better than it feels. Start touching vent controls and pushing buttons and you realize that its very cheap plastic. The leather looks nice but doesnt feel nice (the BMW doesnt feel nice either and doesnt look that nice for that matter). Only the wood in the C class was impressive in both touch and feel.
The Benz has style, the BMW has the substance.
On a daily basis I prefer the BMW, especially if you get the M-Sport package which gets you the M steering wheel which is one of the nicest out there IMO.
I agree. I like how the C-class interior looks in pictures, but it's not all that comfortable to me and looks better than it feels. I think the new A4 interior is damn nice, though. My biggest gripe with the 3-series interior is the material selection, not necessarily the functional design.
I would have to choose the turbo 6 C class over this BMW. The styling interior and exterior is just to far above the beemer.
@@jeffk464 i prefer the bmw styling, both interior and exterior. I like the bmw understated elegance and minimalistic approach. The benz interior is too blingy
It's driver centric because your fuel, speed, and RPM are right in front of you? Wouldn't that apply to like... I don't know... Just about every other car?
Seriously Roman, iDrive is a cut above the other systems out there, such as the ones that Mercedes, Audi, and Lexus use. Its actually really intuitive. iDrive was bad in the mid 2000's. Its great now, seriously. Name one better system out there.
I love BMW..
Bmw is'nt Bmw anymore
5:08 I thought the road was more important to look at!😂
I agree with the interior, I don´t like too much. Good car but if I have to spend lot of money i have to be sure that I like all. The performance is very good and handling, and the size near perfect. I like the car but not the interior.
This car is hot. And yes, it is too expensive but doesn´t means that is not hot. It is a cool car.
need better testing, my 335xi does 4.5 sec with lunch control...
DDO this test was done a mile above sea level...
Why do BMW get a bad rap for reliability in the US?
Add M sport and MPPSK and your opinion will change to a more positive one :)
Supposedly they have a new track pack option that brings these a lot closer to the m car's.
Does anyone know if the new engines in this car are forged internals like previous n54.
Aviator Norbu b58 is closer to the n54 than the n55 is
Love this car
This or the MB C450 AMG ?
With that altitude, thats a good 0-60.
what! the interior is simply and elegant like a BMW should be. and I-drive is hands down the best on the market. lost respect for you guys when you referred to naturally aspirated as "normally aspirated" but not even taking the time to learn how to use the system before reviewing it is ridiculous.
I like how the review goes: you know, the previous version was iffy, slow, the boost wasn't really there, blah blah...but this version, this is the shnitz. And then the next version appears and it's the same story all over....
It's always the same. The previous generation Mustang with the live axle and cross plane crank was brilliant and far better than any modern nonsense. Then along comes the GT350, and suddenly the old Mustang is as desirable as an STD‼️ It makes me smile.😂😂😂
Only if it's true, hasn't been with BMW for a while, nice to have them back
Paul Gerrard Eh❓🤔🤔🤔
Very negative review by a car that has the best engine and transmission up today. Most important thing about a car is the drive not the cute interior or buttons to play with , if you want to play you buy A PlayStation and stay at home if you want to drive you buy the 340,simple as that.
Roman it’s like you haven’t heard lately I drive is fine it is of the best in the industry those homerun buttons around the I drive wheel I just shortcuts does preset menus it’s not hard to use you also complained about how hard the easiest launch control in the business was to use on the X5 m
It’s like you’re sleeping or just regurgitating things you’ve heard it from 10 years ago wake up Connor five you is intuitive and you have a hard time programming the clock on your stove
I agree with Paul... for the money it's not. Come on, a 3 series for 60K? Not too long ago, the 3 series was BMW's entry level. Of course this has come a long way, but at this size and amenities I think it's 5 - 7k overpriced. They made a good point: the M2 stickers below this car. Of course they aren't in the same class, but considering they sell way more 3 series than 2 series it seems like BMW is lining their collective pockets.
If your going to test the cars performance get a one with the M-package it would make more sense....just saying
Love to see the 16 Camaro SS
This is the 2019 Supra Engine. So given the weight difference, the Supra should hit 0-60 in 4 flat!? 320HP was the 4th gen 2JZ power so.... for 2019 the Supra should be stronger!
Go m sport better staying better tyres and suspension and best steering wheel. 2 series is a smaller car if they are comparable then what about a 5 series a gol r or Cayman they both offer things the 3 series doesn't but it's not the same type of car.
Not even a second faster than a GTI? WTF?
That is pretty fast car for being tested at one mile above sea level. Try that with the GTI and report. BTW, I also own a GLI stage II+.
how does this compare with the Ecoboost Mustang
How does this compare to a Mazda Protégé?
This will smoke anything below a GT. But then again no one shopping for this is going to be looking at Mustangs. 4 Series is a better comparison but even at that point these cars don't compete.
Fast refers to mph, not acceleration time.
Interesting the 340i didn't beat out the 2016 GTI by very much. I'm guessing a little tweaking and the GTI could beat it.
According to Edmunds, DSG GTI takes 6.1 seconds to 60 and 5.9 for manual. Also, this is at 1 mile above sea level. 340i is more than a full second quicker which is A LOT. I don't see how that's not "very much". GTI is a very fun car to drive though because of how light it is.
Full throttle under in under 500miles breakin? Must be a rental!
I mean this and the M2 serve two different purposes so.
Why do you always use Jersey plates?
It's a demo car I assume, and that's what OEMs put on them.
+Ian Soderlund BWM corporate U.S. Headquarters are in New Jersey that's why they use these plates.
The Fast Lane Car Ok that makes sense thanks!
+The Fast Lane Car BMW*
for the price its not hot
faster than your hellcat?
Change the tire so you can track it properly esp when you want to compare to m2 dude. Little things better. 3 stars. Always thought this show was a joke, can't take the host seriously.
It’s only hot if it’s 35i/40i in-line 6 turbo engine, has sport auto transmission/manual but NOT regular auto, and definitely have M sport package and not that bullshit Sport Pack.
Don’t have m sport or a 6 turbo engine? It’s unwanted. It’s trash.
This car is faster round the track than the Hellcat, but then again, most cars are. However, the 0-60mph times are near enough identical. This car has 332hp and the Hellcat has 707hp. So, I'll ask again, what the bloody hell are those supposed extra 375hp doing⁉️ If the Hellcat has got all this power, why's it so damned slow⁉️🤔🤔🤔
The hellcat can't put the power down. 707hp is too much for the rear tires to handle.
97I30T Its maximum power certainly overcomes tyre grip. But it shouldn't need full power to beat the BMW.
small track with no long straights for the hellcat to use its power. needs 4wd
joo baggs I was referring more to the 0-60mph time.
MrKeyboardCommando and 4wd and auto helps a lot for 0-60 times. its why the x6m was over 1 sec faster with about 200hp less.
WE WANT MIATA
"No no Thomas"
Very funny‼️
PURE BMW R6 PETROL
$59K for a sedan and it has analog gauges, for much less the ATS gives you more!
It was just 0.3 seconds slower than the Hellcat at a mile above sea level.
hellcat wins power, 340 wins aero
4wd and auto helps!
Clous von What's yours? Did it do it at a mile above sea level?
I hate those Pirelli P7 tires
The was very "quick", not fast. Wrong word usage guys.
Bmw is always a little behind in interior design. Look at Audi with the digital dash. And Mercedes beautiful interior design. Not to mention in a few years all the electronics are going to fail.
RWD would have been maybe faster but also weigh less and cost less.
I❤️ BMW
My dad has one of them
!!!!!!!😀
you had the car for a week. you didn't buy it that's why you don't love it find a car with the preformance the 340 has.
The one half wit should stick to reviewing trucks. Seems more his speed