Drone On: the Future of UAV Over the US
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- From military weapons expos in Jordan to idyllic SoCal beaches, we caught up with some of those who are building and selling unmanned aerial vehicles all over the world, and even convinced a few companies to let us take their flying spy robots for a spin.
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60,000 bucks? Bitch please! I'm building a drone for $500 with ArduPilot!
I was thinking the same, hell NAZA 2 with GPS. FatShark FPV, zenmuse gimbal with gopro makes better drone than that thing, for fraction of the price...
When it comes to military, price can be multiplied by 10 or more, and nobody asks.
Zeeshan Zakaria It can be multiplied by 10 because once it's designed for the military it's not just a drone
Just look at the price of a single missile
Build it with $500 and then charge 60k. That's how those others do ;)
Good video about a very troubling subject . Just know that there has never been an innovation that hasn't been exploited by the gov.
In 1986, my friend wanted to send pictures of his farm to friends in Yugoslavia, so we hooked up my Canon AE-1 to his R/C-helicopter and got it to work, flew around the farm at different heights...took 24 pictures total...then had to wait 5 days for the pics to be developed, only to find that 5 pics made it, the rest where either outa focus or just sky...
Today, it's sooo simple, the same can be done within an hour and pics sent instantly to any one or uploaded to the web in no time.
So cool!
As a Grad student at the University of Unmanned Vehicle (UVX), I would like to thank you for an open minded approach to UAVs and very, very well done video.
The next logical step is anti-drone warfare, or counter-drone technology.
There is already one system devoloping for Drone jammer which used for presidental cars or important places. System is basically using noise way to cut the drone for sending video to base or continue flying the interesting thing is if the small drones don't have a auto-pilot its shutting down the drone. Turkey is doing really good job even U.S. didn't have if they don't keeping secret.One other thing is jammer drone find the other drone and lock&jam it but who knows maybe they add small AA missile one day
Any wifi based drone like an ar drone or a dji phantom video feed can be hacked using premade software
ИнтерКосмосKEЖ Drone Jammers are highly illegal by the FCC. Nothing is allow to block or interfere with RF signals.
furonwarrior
I was thinking something along the lines of 12 ga.bird shot.
You guys should really go and look into this great hobby. The media tangles everything and just focuses on the idea that drones are bad because of the wars going on. The RC hobby are not part of that. We are totally separate and don't go around spying and killing. If you didn't know, there has been no peeping toms involving RC aircraft. All of you keep thinking that they are going to watch you sunbathe or dress, well you need to think more. They are loud and noticeable, you will see it. This is a hobby with more benefit than you guys know, some day one could save you.
In Holland, they have a pilot project (no pun intended) where the 911 operator can dispatch a quad with a defibrulator to people with cardiac issues. They say it will be there in less than 2 minutes from any call centre (weather dependant)
Schmidty You are 100% correct but if you look at technology advancements, those who use the technology 1st on a massive scale are the military and PORN! Yes porn, the phone, mobile phone, film, vhs tape, cameras, and the silicone US $5,000+ pleasure doll. Don't ask me how I know of the latter? :)
+Schmidty Today, I went RC flying with my friends, and I brought my DJI Phantom quadcopter drone with me! We had the best time ever, I recorded the whole thing with my drone, and nobody got hurt! I really dislike how drones are bringing negative attention to the RC hobby. Military drones like the Predator have absolutely nothing in common with consumer videography and RC hobby drones like the DJI Phantom.
things have changed since 2012
I'm a filmmaker and think that hobbyist drones like the DJI phantom are great for getting amazing aerial footage.
Why is it that my rc multi-rotor looks so evil in the eyes of the media while nobody has anything against an rc helicopter? They can both potentially do the same thing.
Not cool.
Thats what I say! they live by "If it looks more dangerous or futuristic than this one, it is automatically actually dangerous and we should tell everyone they will come and kill you" same with alot of things, drones, guns, rockets.
(FYI: im pro-drone is you are wondering)
This video was made before the game changing DJI phantom came out. I wish they would do a follow up. I love mine.
he can take back what he says at 19:00-19:15
I love my Phantom , and she loves me. No one is taking her away from me, no one! ;-) lol
Jed Norman wasn't any of you lot flying it over Bath today was it?
Jo Diamond
bath ME? probably hermit island
Yeah, my F550 has the touchscreen controls with BTU, video is even better thanks to zenmuse gimbal, and the GPU hold of the Naza V2 is just flawless... This video definitely needs a re-shoot...
those first person glasses are probably the most badass thing i ever seen
I have so much respect for you and guys like Vice do. You're seriously better than the "real" news these days.
You can get a DJI Phantom FC40 for $500 or Phantom 2 Vision $879 and still have the technology as these $60K toys. I got an DJI Phantom that comes with a camera that you can link through a smart phone or tablet. These companies are probably using DJI control boards, NAZA GPS, Electronic speed controllers and all other hobby grade parts already available and charging $60K.
I agree with you to a certain extent. I have recently bought a Phantom 2 and have been watching a lot of similar videos to get a better understanding of them. DJI is a very good company at producing quadcopters, but I'm pretty sure that these military producing companies are not telling us everything that they do put in their quadcopters, and I'm sure the military is smart enough not to purchase a drone that has the same capabilities as a DJI drone.
The military will more likely spend $60k rather than be budget savy.
FPV to a phone or tablet is not the same thing as what is in these drones... Anybody can go buy a toy copter, but putting together a useful aerial vehicle requires much more in depth knowledge. I guarantee that these are not using anything made by DJI. I think he's using an APM.
EDIT: No, actually these are purely proprietary.
What else would call a live video feed to a phone or tablet from a drone? Not FPV? Just because they wrote the software package and incorporated it into the same hobby grade toy copter parts that I fly via a tablet with a rubber case makes it worth $60K? I think you are missing the poin regardless of what parts they use. This technology is in it's infantcy.
Speakerofthehouse2 I don't doubt they are making a lot of money on these but they aren't even in the same league as a DJI. Real FPV systems have range of more than a few hundred feet, which essentially limits you to line of sight anyway. 2.4 ghz wifi can't penetrate trees or anything so it has no real value for this application. And yes, for the average user that tablet to control it is very important. Most people don't want to have to learn to fly a copter, point and click is much easier.
1:24 Oh shut up. I fly my quad there every day.
How does he know it's illegal? As long as it's within LOS and wasn't launched from a no fly site it's perfectly legal.
One of the most exciting areas for civilian drone use that I see at the moment is automation of the construction industry.
Motherboard, I admire your courage in doing this, and I surely don't think anyone with half a brain would pick on the civilians who enjoy their RC models.
so as soon you put a camara on an RC plane, people call it a drone...
pretty much
'cause people are sheep and they like the terms the media uses, and make assumptions about their legality.
That's kind of what a drone is though, isn't it? A drone isn't specifically military hardware, it's a reconnaissance vehicle. If you strap a gopro to an rc helicopter and fly it around and film stuff, it kind of is a drone.
monk1junk1 i like Quadcopter instead, or hobby flying, or an rc plane with fpv.
The Flying Gasmask It doesn't change the fact that it's a drone. Drone is a better blanket term for unmanned vehicles that use cameras. A quadcopter isn't always a drone as it may be an actual transport vehicle or perhaps not have a camera.
Well done....
5 years later and this is now commercially available
This is fantastic!
Nice video, my grandma would love it.. Perfect, un-informed, out of date, fear mongering.. What next? You gonna tell us how great AOL is?
A robotics company can't set proper PID values for their drone? Jesus....
You forgot to point out that the Proffessional Drove was sending back a Live Video Feed, and hence naturally a lower quality image than the HD "Recorded" image captured by your GoPro camera carried atop the RC copter...
I like the fair coverage of the drone in your story, They are a tool that can be used for fun or war just like any other. Great video
Imagine what all the birds are thinking of this shit... 11:42 crow flies by thinking "WhAAAT THE FFUUUCK??! I gotta gtfo this town" There is one factor we haven't accounted for with these little scout drones and that factor is: Eagles. Big, scary, gigantic talon eagles.
That or big fat fuckin' Geese that just fly right into it and ffffuck themselves up.
I've already seen footage of a falcon trying to attack a Blade SR RC helicopter, with two crows attempting to chase the falcon off. Birds seem to see drones and model aircraft as other birds, albeit very unusually shaped ones.
thats it were killing all the geese
what the hell!! they never got back to the hobbyist
They do around 16:26
But not the way we expect
All you need to watch from this video is from 9:07 to 9:23 . You will than understand what the dream is all about. You can glide like the wind.
Being coward means not having the courage. Getting to your goals by a safer, cheaper and faster way is not cowardice, it's efficiency.
1 year ago.
LOL! 30mph, my backpack rc toy copter does about 65mph. LOL $60 000? suckers born every minute.
It wasn't built to go fast it was built to spy. It doesn't need to go fast. They make other drones that fly as fast as jets, so don't feel so smart.
Hoverbot1TV I'm not defending this drone, I am against them because the NSA will use them to spy on American citizens. I am merely saying that this drone was not designed to go fast, so there is no reason to rag on it because your toy which was designed for speed is faster than it. This can do way more than just fly. It's quite scary actually.
Don't believe the hype though, the uav industry is full of BS. Agreed one day they will be scary but it is imortant to look behind the curtain and see the lil control freak munchkins selling them.
Oh and Vice motherboard etc. total propaganda for the yuppiechow crowd.
I have been doing extensive research on the subject, along with the NSA and TSA, and don't worry it's not the drones themselves that I find scary, they can be used for real and practical things. It's the people controlling them that I don't trust. I am a big fan of my privacy, and I wish to keep it.
Hoverbot1TV You're an idiot.
i love the way all these guys quote films whose message was one of warning about putting reliance on technology, as their INSPIRATION for what they are doing? how do they miss the point so thoroughly?
Six years later this looks like a historic footage from another Era. Would be great to see a follow-up tracking the companies (3DR went full force after DJI, which in itself didn't even get a mention, and now offers only business services), hobby (there are races with huge prizes, think 2016 Dubai), and regulation (FAA now has poorly written ambiguous rules). Time for a follow-up up on all those clips?
yet another misinformed, make believe, journalist.
A quad copter, or RC vehicle, is not a drone.
My brother saw drones fly over Danbury , Connecticut this past July 4th. It was at night . It was lighted orange. It did not like a spot light on it. We know that because who ever was operating it made it land quickly.
My thoughts exactly. I'm in the process of designing a tricopter that I intend to use for FPV flying. There is nothing wrong or dangerous about doing that. As long as you're responsible and don't fly in crowds of people, nobody is going to get hurt and it's really a cool feeling to essentially be able to fly around on a moments notice.
yeah.. 1 thing about that scout they didn't tell you , is that is has thermal vision
so do the the high end digital cameras (same size as the ones that most ppl have)
kawivloger Damn.......!
I thought there was too much stuff there for JUST a Lens.
David Lakota you just restored my fate in humanity!
this is such a bloody melodramatic video
You are completely correct I do apology, the people are not aware that certain robots would not be consider as drones, but drones it self have been used very negatively when they are actually good for this country.
ditto. The hobby is a great way to meet people and learn about flight and electronics. It is very safe.
In Australia a Drone or RC Aircraft with a camera (for business at least) is considered a UAV, hence requires a UAV licence to operate and permits to fly near people or under 400ft. I read the legals and I could not find a mention of privacy, only safety.
I was going to attach a go pro to a 400 dollar Quadcopter to get some high shots of my works building but the costs jumped into the thousands quickly.
Drones can save lives too. Last year in the Canadian Arctic, one of the helicopters from a Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker when down with the loss of 4 lives including the ship's Captain. They were scouting the sea ice for paths through it. If they would have been using a RPV, these lives would have been lost.
Outstanding production guys. I stumbled on while searching for quadcopter cameras. I own the Phantom 2 Vision. This is being used to minimize safety issues with inspecting damaged roofs and other hard to reach property. After posting, I'll be sure to check out more of your videos. I only wish you could have exercised more cinematography showing a flyover of surfing.
AMA all the way. He should've interviewed them! They are the most important factor!
Epic drones need more support
So a train ride has made you the expert on what's wrong in America?? That is incredible!!! That's way cooler than staying in a Holiday Inn Express.
They'll make lovely targets for shooting practice!
Sophia Stewart writer of the third eye, for those interested take a read at this graphic novel
she wrote specifically about some of is featured in this video.
knowing the radio control frequency and transmitting a jamming signal will bring these things down. if need be...though in the mean time used for peaceful purposes ..what fun.and usefull. great vid. ta4 posting.
Being afraid that it might be used in a wrong way souldn't be a reason to just give up on these amazing developements.
Good stuff Motherboard! Good stuff!
Drones are not illegal it's just fun to see the world from a birds eye view
Even though it has probably been said already, it is worth saying again.
The guy sitting on the beach flying his quad is not flying a drone, he is flying FPV. I have a RC plane I set up for FPV and the closest it comes to being a drone is when either I flick a switch or it looses radio signal. When that happens it defaults to a return to launch setting and flies back to me.
actually rc aircraft was never meant to have a camera on it. People started to add it to have a nice view of their airplane flying around then they put them in quadcopters
Did he say Taco Delivery!!?? Imagine watch the camera capture of your Domino's Pizza as it approaches your address. Talk about home entertainment.
Motherboard,
You guys are wrong about 3DR. They offer the full interace + array of sensors. In other words - they offer Deytron's $60,000 for literally 1% of the price.
In The Netherlands because of these videos it is becoming impossible to fly with these and make nice videos for youtube ,not getting in trouble.
writing a paper on drones for college class.. very helpful resource here.. cited it in said paper. Thankyou.
here's the thing that the guys at DIYdrones were wrong about. you can exceed 400 ft MSL if you are further than three miles from an active airport. this is according to the Acadamy of Model Aeronautics safety code. this institution has been fighting for the rights of RC hobbyists all over the country. they also work closely with the FAA in developing their safety rules.
Well done!
From New York to Amman and Sand Diego and then back to New York.... and only 22 minutes of video?
Still, it was very good.
I wish Vice had interviewed Flite Test to have them premier a brand new flying wing type stealth attack bomber with imbedded bomb bays and cannon barrel & manifold. All DIY with CAD blueprints in several formats for everyone to make.
"Somebody's watching, somebody's watching me!" Ah, if only you guys got the rights to that song. Would've been perfect for this video!
Okay, I work in Vista, CA and live down the road in Carlsbad. I never knew Vista was considered "Drone Valley"! I'm gonna start looking up a lot more these days... haha, wow
1.17 this is not ilegal this was cut from a youtube clip that payed tribute of the cooperation of new york law enforcment and rangers to fly the drone in the airspace that it was flown.
nearly 10 years on and i wonder how many staff at motherboard own a drone?
Indeed a lot of interesting developments are on the horizon. There is so much capability to provide useful services that can improve and even save lives yet there is also a lot of potential for their use in a harmful way. At Dronesetc we are working towards their productive use.
in a few years we will not be able to lay down relaxing under blue skies without fear of being at least watched or worse - r.i.p. george orwell
Regarding the statement @ 18:46. For real-time video, the scout UAV will likely provide a better image, not the hobbyist UAV. With the hobbyist UAV, the video we're seeing is HD video retrieved after the fact from a GoPro, which is not of the quality that you can get if you're transmitting video over-the-air. For real-time video, the scout UAV likely wins.
Nicely put together. I enjoyed watching.
Yo, sign me up for one of the little ones with the goggles. Not for anything crazy, just for smoking a joint and flying around some cool as mountains or something.
I aggree... as owner of Arkansas Drone Tech... I can see the future of..drones... as people call them. I build custom per application unmanned rc aircraft. Quad copters ect. The now available technogly allows me to build a complete FPV platform with GPS system AND auto level sensors for less than $1000 with controller. Averege price is $250 fee for design and tuning. $550 for items used in construction... Ive been in RC avionics for about 20 years. The advances in technology amazes me...
I'm was and still am a solider, now retired. OIF2 we were using drone tech, that was, 2004-2005. I became so engrossed with the idea of a fully autonomous drone army that I started to realize it was probably one of the most dangerous techs to be created. Compare size to mass, a single drone army with only 40 drones or so could take out hundreds, if not thousands before running out of ammo. Then if their is no solider on the ground, why the fuck are they still fighting?
drone/robot age is now in effect
60K, you'd think theyd at least make the camera a tad bit better than my cell phone video-cam from 2001...
"Tech like this is ALWAYS developed for the worst of reasons."
Staying on top militarily is not a bad reason. In fact, nations that neglect military development tend to have a short life span as it becomes economically beneficial to invade them. Beyond that, the US is organized such that the government subsidizes R&D for all kinds of industries via military research budgets and technologies are always spun off into civilian applications fairly quickly.
Yeah I know about those, but these mini-drones that the video mostly talked about are easy to take out.
I can't wait to have drones everywhere
A distinction without a difference. A drone does not mean armed military drone. Anything that uses robotics to fly with some level of autonomy can be considered a drone. It's not hard to take that R/C model and strap on some improvised explosive and turn it into a killing machine.
Branislav Ivanovic giving lectures on drones
I'm sure during the American revolution a lot of people said things very similar ..... "being a rebel is not cool its dumb...." Thank god for people those who never question the ones in power.
This is so cool. I just ordered parts for my drone, can't wait till its shipped! Though this will by my first build, and it only costed me ~200$. The hardest part will be writing stabilization software, i'm not very good at math, nor physics, so this will be a challenge.
But if you only want to fly the thing, you can buy one pre-built from some hobby websites, you can buy one with mounted camera, or one without it. They aren't THAT expensive.
Tomorrow's news: Unidentified hacker hijacks Law Enforcement and Journalist drones, millions of dollars worth of equipment have vanished into thin air - Government is looking to invest another 20 Million to purchase new drones; a fraction of which, will be tasked to search systematically for the missing ones.
Enjoyed the video. I'm getting ready to buy a PD
Maybe this just came out a while ago but those quads hes flying only cost about $170 and their very easy to control. I cant believe those military style ones were $60,000
DIY Drone becomes bigger and bigger than 2012
Good stuff! Well written. Well edited. Bravo/a.
I'd love to see these drones commercialized. Just imagine what private businesses could do with them. They are already being used as pizza delivery machines in Europe.
2019 where you guys at?
Great execution & coverage.
Amazing how far Arducopter code has come. The 3DR copter stabilization was pretty bad this long ago.
i like how its not illegal to fly a quadcopter through a city
The technologies are melding into each other at an quick rate.. at any point a drone can become a UAV and vice versa.. eventually, there will be a very thin grey line to distinguish them
i loved the idea of food delivery with drones...
Research and development. These companies can't just use commercial hobby parts, they have to design it all from scratch.
no problem they are gonna have deflector shields of course and amazing avoidance systems.
"introduce the word personal to drone" YES! I cant wait to buy a 1080p camera drone, some live view HD goggles and go fly. :D
What people forget is this I can live stream from a cell phone to the internet. So I can walk into a building and use my phone to spy, or worse. I dont see them screaming about banning cell phones.
WOW I CAN'T WAIT FOR "DETECTNOLOGY" TO COME OUT!
1st person view quadrobot was amazing. Would love to have one of those when tripping on shrooms.