It’s kind of funny to think that the SR-71’s original name, wasn’t SR but, rather RS-71 for Reconnaissance System. Lyndon B. Johnson accidentally called it the SR-71 and it stuck with the American public and thus the plane was then officially renamed as the SR-71. I also believe that the SR-71 would have remained as a secret black project for much longer than it did but, if I remember correctly, Congress was complaining about the U.S. not keeping pace with Soviet Aerospace technology development, so the Blackbird was reveled to Congress, essentially to shut them up.
Internally it was already called SR-71 by the Air Force by the time of the speech, due to lobbying from Gen. Curtis LeMay (maybe also because having the last letter be S would imply it was a sub hunter, and they weren’t trying to deceive anyone as to its purpose). The press documents still said RS for some reason.
It was first the A12 Before called the RS 71 then the SR 71 and followed by the M21 that carried a drone called the D21. The last A12 was renamed after testing another SR 71. The only one seater that existed. Ir sits in the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio immitting that fact.
@@chriss-nf1bd the A12 (codename OXCART) is the first variant, single seater with better electronics and larger tanks, made specifically on CIA's request, and Lockheed made a dozen or so of those (a few lost in incidents). Then LeMay requested a USAF variant with tandem seats in order to split the load between pilot and RIO on the long travels. That variant was originally called RS71, then got the name SR71.
The F-105 was not an unsuccesful fighter bomber. Much on the contrary. The high loss rate was a consequence of the intensity of the Vietnam war. It was not an easy plane to fly, but that was because of its high performance.
Also because they used it for CAS, that being the most needed most common mission in nam, which it wasn't a tall designed for, making it much more vulnerable to ground fire. It was the first time we really started seeing air superiority fighters become too specialized to be useful at much else. In WWII most fighters were at least pretty good at ground attack, the jet age changed that, and nam was when we really realized our tactics and strategy were both not up to day, and also, left some very large capability gaps for CAS/
I know a guy who worked on the conservation of an Oxcart for a historical monument. It's not an easy job when the paint won't stick to anything because the government still won't tell you what the airplane is made out of.
They’re fucking everywhere man. I travel often and I like to stop at air museums here in the states and you’d be surprised how big museums have at least one member of the blackbird family. Blackbird Park at Plant 42 has two of them as well as a D-21
Thunderchief was used in roles it was not designed for. It flew supersonic bombing and interdiction sorties at low level, a steep hill to climb for any A/C, while facing the most intense ground AAA fire in history. Furthermore, it was never a fighter, and the TFX RFP was not specifically issued to replace it. It was not a bad aircraft as described in this video. To describe it in this manner is disrespectful to the builder, the A/C itself, and finally, the brave pilots who flew it.
Bro the Convair engineers who designed that VTOL jet must've been on the same thing the Convair engineers were on during the development of the B-36 peacemaker 💀💀💀
The B-36 made sense when it was developed. Don't forget, it was originally planned during WW2 and came just too late to be used there. Of course it was obsolete in the mid 1950s
Man, the Kingfish looks like would have been a stealthy beast considering the similarities I see with the F117.. maybe I’m reaching and hot damn the A12 was almost flawless but I can’t help but think the Kingfish would have had potentially lower RCS and if it could have reached Mach 3+ I think todays combat aircraft would be so different
David R Lentz, Columbus, Ohio, USA (Sunday, 18 August, 2024) Your presentation quickly proves its points as being of rather greater interest and merit than I initially had anticipated; much of such designs are so problematic (or worse, embarrassing) on the face of it as to be sardonically laughable, even trenchantly derisive. Of course, one must guard against undue censure, however, for some innovations and adaptations ultimately do manage to prove their worth, if in an unintended sense. An especially fortuitous case in point was the UK’s Wooden Wonder: the de Havilland DH-98 Mosquito RAF Mk.IV Light Bomber and its siblings. At 42:22, you mispronounce the surname of the Defence Secretary Robert McNamara-”MACK•neh•MAR (as in “marry”) •eh”-which your on-screen captioning also misspells. At 43:06, your on-screen captioning also mis-labels the name of the Fairchild-Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II USAF Attack Aircraft; its predecessor was the formidable Republic P-47 Thunderbolt USAAF Fighter. At 1:38:34, the Convair Model 49 Shroud-Rotored Vehicle (advanced area fire-support system) airborne test aircraft briefly caught my attention. The Star Wars movie designers should examine this fearsome thing to assess how a real “battle-droid” would look, operate, and fight! At 1:48:14, what is “Skorovsky’s [sic] Translating Roto-Prop”? At 1:50:45, you introduce the Lockheed CL-1201, an unfathomably massive aircraft design concept. Entertaining it is for us to conceptualise and to contemplate its potential, though I expect that the purpose of this flying, metal lammergeier had is roots in the geopolitics of the day. Were a generally similar scenario to manifest, we surely would be able to do as much with the USAF’s transports we now have; or at worst, we would spend a fraction of the cost of that sky-beast to increase our capacity.
The CL1201? Imagine the radar cross section? A cruise missile boat I could see. Sooy a few hundred and turn for home thousands of miles away from targets. But as an aircraft carries. Cheaper to air refuel the aircraft it is to carry. I can see this plane being inflatable. With conventional power plants and engines. Needing no runways.
When I was a kid, Gi-Joe had their version of the Blackbird. Around the same time, there was a craft released called the Shark (I think). It was a sick looking aircraft/submarine. I always wondered if that was a real life failed military project that the toy company used as the basis of the design. If anyone at Skunkworks is looking for the next big design for an eye catching, trick death machine, they should look it up. I think it even had an action figure in a suit that looked like something an astronaut would wear but was used as a deep sea diving rig. They don’t make toys like that anymore.
9:50 we hear ''wreck onna sonse''? What's that when it is at home? At 30:00 with the starfighter htting the Valkyrie mid-air. The flight was for a brochure for the board of directors. However a large bomber got too close from above which spooked the starfighter pilot into making a sudden swerve, causing him to cross over the stabilizers of the valkyrie, knocking the valkrie into oblivion. Was simply bad luck and nothing to do with bad design etc. What a shame huh? That Convair & Gen'Elec Highdensity seaplane reminds me of a cross betwee a blue whale and a humpback whale with a wing-shaped front flippers, and stabilizer shaped tail-flukes. A really goegeous design tio look at despite it's multitude of drawbacks. (Star Trek Fleet Command is pretty much utter shite, by the way. There's no real gameplay. Just the usual typical Android-centric money spinner story line.) The big giant one near the end is repeated after the star trek game is repeated
President Lloyd Johnson ? What would Melanie Patcher of the Tony (aka conswervative) party of the Unified Queendom of Grand Button and NE Iceland have to say?
Props to the animators! (I don't know if thats plural or... Lol) but I wanted to say for a long while I think. So there, job done!👍👍 what is that Maya or....?
So the premise of the YF12 was to build a blisteringly fast plane armed with air to air missiles that would scream towards the enemy bomber fleets identified by the radars and early warning equipment of the day and due to their speed would intercept the enemy and destroy them all far from home,,, as long as your home was in the USA and not somewhere near the expected interception point correct? God I would absolutely love to take a peak behind the doors of the USA's most advanced and top secret technology, including all the supposedly recovered materials and the programs set up around them,, those guys are literally walking around in what to us normal folk amounts to a version of the future, effectively real life time travelers who work on a daily basis with things that we won't know about for at least 20 years and more likely 40 or 50 years! Think about the advances in technology between 1984 to 2004 and then the advances from 2004 to now and just imagine what they have on the drawing board now!
@@BRAINFxck10 if you spent an ungodly amount of money on tech, that nobody even bothered to try to copy, more likely than not, you wasted that money)))).
@@dungeondeezdragons4242 you're ignorant if you think Russia, China, or Iran didn't try to copy that tech and aren't intimated by a stealth bomber that can carry 16 nukes
@@BRAINFxck10 first of all you will have to tell me what is "stealth" for, on planes. Then you will have to tell me about "15 nukes", since direct bombing of was outdated for about 40 years now, you know, 100mile+ range AA missiles and all. And then you will have to tell me how, JUST 21, bombers are supposed to do anything in a conflict against a serious opponent that can actually fight back...
How do replys in the messages get posted 3 hours before the video? Maybe do a video about that because someone is hiding time travel tec. Its not anti lag.
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How come you say mistle like an American instead of missile like Brits and older Aussies and Kiwi's? It sounds to me like younger Aussies and Kiwi's have been totally Yankified!
ahh so china/russia just proved with their drone tech , hypersonic missile tech, liquid thorium salt reactor tech, & nuclear powered cruise missile tech that the flying submarine is possible. neato all problems you mention solved😌
Nobody had military tech approaching the US in the 60s, and it's not even remotely close. The USSR's were all about how they did more with less, but if you are interested in technical razzle dazzle, it's all the US. Sorry bub the 20th century belongs to the US.
say "McNamara"... My best friend was born with foetal alcohol syndrome and they would make a better job at voice over than you... 100% true 100% provable, .
It’s kind of funny to think that the SR-71’s original name, wasn’t SR but, rather RS-71 for Reconnaissance System. Lyndon B. Johnson accidentally called it the SR-71 and it stuck with the American public and thus the plane was then officially renamed as the SR-71. I also believe that the SR-71 would have remained as a secret black project for much longer than it did but, if I remember correctly, Congress was complaining about the U.S. not keeping pace with Soviet Aerospace technology development, so the Blackbird was reveled to Congress, essentially to shut them up.
Internally it was already called SR-71 by the Air Force by the time of the speech, due to lobbying from Gen. Curtis LeMay (maybe also because having the last letter be S would imply it was a sub hunter, and they weren’t trying to deceive anyone as to its purpose). The press documents still said RS for some reason.
All because no one wanted to correct the president 😂
It was first the A12 Before called the RS 71 then the SR 71 and followed by the M21 that carried a drone called the D21. The last A12 was renamed after testing another SR 71. The only one seater that existed. Ir sits in the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio immitting that fact.
someone has also read Annie Jacobsen's book on Area 51, I see
Great book btw
@@chriss-nf1bd the A12 (codename OXCART) is the first variant, single seater with better electronics and larger tanks, made specifically on CIA's request, and Lockheed made a dozen or so of those (a few lost in incidents). Then LeMay requested a USAF variant with tandem seats in order to split the load between pilot and RIO on the long travels. That variant was originally called RS71, then got the name SR71.
President Lloyd Johnson?! Was Lloyd the unbuilt prototype of Lyndon?
How does he mess that up???
The cover version to confuse KGB assassins
The YF 12 having to slow down...." Easy now .... we're catching up with our own bullets!"
"and thats where lockheed"
**ABBA intensifies**
Lol
The F-105 was not an unsuccesful fighter bomber. Much on the contrary. The high loss rate was a consequence of the intensity of the Vietnam war. It was not an easy plane to fly, but that was because of its high performance.
Also because they used it for CAS, that being the most needed most common mission in nam, which it wasn't a tall designed for, making it much more vulnerable to ground fire. It was the first time we really started seeing air superiority fighters become too specialized to be useful at much else. In WWII most fighters were at least pretty good at ground attack, the jet age changed that, and nam was when we really realized our tactics and strategy were both not up to day, and also, left some very large capability gaps for CAS/
It's funny how some of the most advanced aircraft were designed in the 1960s and are stll in service.
Yep, one YF-12 sits in Dayton OH USAFM. Has the predecessor to the Phoenix LRM.
They "did It!" Gramma flew the Concord to Britian, and the first 747 to China, maybe? London too? I was very young, but very Impressed.
what???
The CL-1201 was so big, FAE had to put it in here twice.
Hello fellow enterprise enjoyer.
@@USSR.T-90A Hello, T-90 enjoyer
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I was hooked from start to finish. Fantastic video!
That thumbnail made my think this was a video about The Thunderbirds. Good idea though?!?!
28:56 "...as to increase the directional stabibility."
IDK, man, I think that would take too much dedotated WAM to pull off.
lol!
I just want to point out there is a a12 in new York on the deck of the intrepid.
Pov:Swedish techtree in warthunder
POV the new ikea furniture
Gripen is king!
Forsen and PewDiePie
Just when I thought I couldn’t love the F-14 Tomcat any more!
Why do I get the feeling that the A-12 somewhat inspired the fictional ADF-11F Raven and it's predecessor from the Ace Combat franchise?
I know a guy who worked on the conservation of an Oxcart for a historical monument. It's not an easy job when the paint won't stick to anything because the government still won't tell you what the airplane is made out of.
This has me hyped to see the SR71 in the flesh next month
235kg for an XB70😅
Great video though, what a time for aviation.
They’re fucking everywhere man. I travel often and I like to stop at air museums here in the states and you’d be surprised how big museums have at least one member of the blackbird family. Blackbird Park at Plant 42 has two of them as well as a D-21
I went to.the air force Museum in Warner robins Georgia, an I saw both the u 2 an the SR 71 in person omg there both huge jets to say the least...
At 1:40:00; My first thought; "How would the pilots get aboard?" ;-)
At 1:50:50; My first thought; The pilots just sit there... waiting?
I always thought that the YF-12 was the cover for the A-12/SR-71 program.
this guy'd make for a great series on discovery channel or history channel
Thunderchief was used in roles it was not designed for. It flew supersonic bombing and interdiction sorties at low level, a steep hill to climb for any A/C, while facing the most intense ground AAA fire in history. Furthermore, it was never a fighter, and the TFX RFP was not specifically issued to replace it. It was not a bad aircraft as described in this video. To describe it in this manner is disrespectful to the builder, the A/C itself, and finally, the brave pilots who flew it.
7:48 I always thought his name was Lyndon.
Nope. You missed class that day. Lol
Bro the Convair engineers who designed that VTOL jet must've been on the same thing the Convair engineers were on during the development of the B-36 peacemaker 💀💀💀
😢😮😢😢😢😢😢😮😮😮😢3s,s, ,hddd,1,,
The B-36 made sense when it was developed. Don't forget, it was originally planned during WW2 and came just too late to be used there.
Of course it was obsolete in the mid 1950s
To quote tym3glitch: "were they high when designing this?"
_"Well it was the 60s, so yes."_
Convair’s 49 reminds me of a Pope/ Hoover wringer washing machine. Hahahahaha Hahahahaha
Man, the Kingfish looks like would have been a stealthy beast considering the similarities I see with the F117.. maybe I’m reaching and hot damn the A12 was almost flawless but I can’t help but think the Kingfish would have had potentially lower RCS and if it could have reached Mach 3+ I think todays combat aircraft would be so different
David R Lentz, Columbus, Ohio, USA (Sunday, 18 August, 2024)
Your presentation quickly proves its points as being of rather greater interest and merit than I initially had anticipated; much of such designs are so problematic (or worse, embarrassing) on the face of it as to be sardonically laughable, even trenchantly derisive. Of course, one must guard against undue censure, however, for some innovations and adaptations ultimately do manage to prove their worth, if in an unintended sense. An especially fortuitous case in point was the UK’s Wooden Wonder: the de Havilland DH-98 Mosquito RAF Mk.IV Light Bomber and its siblings.
At 42:22, you mispronounce the surname of the Defence Secretary Robert McNamara-”MACK•neh•MAR (as in “marry”) •eh”-which your on-screen captioning also misspells.
At 43:06, your on-screen captioning also mis-labels the name of the Fairchild-Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II USAF Attack Aircraft; its predecessor was the formidable Republic P-47 Thunderbolt USAAF Fighter.
At 1:38:34, the Convair Model 49 Shroud-Rotored Vehicle (advanced area fire-support system) airborne test aircraft briefly caught my attention. The Star Wars movie designers should examine this fearsome thing to assess how a real “battle-droid” would look, operate, and fight!
At 1:48:14, what is “Skorovsky’s [sic] Translating Roto-Prop”?
At 1:50:45, you introduce the Lockheed CL-1201, an unfathomably massive aircraft design concept. Entertaining it is for us to conceptualise and to contemplate its potential, though I expect that the purpose of this flying, metal lammergeier had is roots in the geopolitics of the day. Were a generally similar scenario to manifest, we surely would be able to do as much with the USAF’s transports we now have; or at worst, we would spend a fraction of the cost of that sky-beast to increase our capacity.
Geesh...make your own damn video bub.
The CL1201? Imagine the radar cross section? A cruise missile boat I could see. Sooy a few hundred and turn for home thousands of miles away from targets. But as an aircraft carries. Cheaper to air refuel the aircraft it is to carry. I can see this plane being inflatable. With conventional power plants and engines. Needing no runways.
When I was a kid, Gi-Joe had their version of the Blackbird. Around the same time, there was a craft released called the Shark (I think). It was a sick looking aircraft/submarine. I always wondered if that was a real life failed military project that the toy company used as the basis of the design. If anyone at Skunkworks is looking for the next big design for an eye catching, trick death machine, they should look it up. I think it even had an action figure in a suit that looked like something an astronaut would wear but was used as a deep sea diving rig. They don’t make toys like that anymore.
Early on almost all Joe vehicles were based on real vehicles or concept vehicles
I think some of these designers were frying a little LSD.
I Love this time in aviation Everything is possible
The SR-71 HAD 3 Speeds here, there and gone
Convair was the "hold my beer" of aviation development.
Anybody remember the movie D.A.R.Y.L? My favorite movie when I was little, I thought the SR was awesome
yes
A12 fighter? Hardly fly at other jets standars speeds. Interceptor maybe, fighter? Really? Dogfight?
Excellent video.
Found and explain !!! I saw an advertisement on youtube by warpath they were using ur video and voice m. Not sure if u gave them permission.
Pronounced MAC-na-mmara. Like MAC-10
Not mc-namm-ara.
Kind of a household name here, almost didn’t know who you were talking about.
Everyone just always wants more speed
M-47 is an awesome idea for a drone variant!!!!!!!!!!
Great Post! Thanks ; )
I thought that photo was of Thunderbird II when I first saw it.
Who is president Lloyd Johnson? I think you meant Lyndon.
Also Robert McNamra? And stabibility 😂
Martime? Mar-I-time
He mangled Robert McNamara again! This time it was Macnamuruh 🤣
If "get hooked on phonics" was a video.
Bro he mispronounced everything
9:50 we hear ''wreck onna sonse''? What's that when it is at home?
At 30:00 with the starfighter htting the Valkyrie mid-air. The flight was for a brochure for the board of directors. However a large bomber got too close from above which spooked the starfighter pilot into making a sudden swerve, causing him to cross over the stabilizers of the valkyrie, knocking the valkrie into oblivion. Was simply bad luck and nothing to do with bad design etc. What a shame huh?
That Convair & Gen'Elec Highdensity seaplane reminds me of a cross betwee a blue whale and a humpback whale with a wing-shaped front flippers, and stabilizer shaped tail-flukes. A really goegeous design tio look at despite it's multitude of drawbacks.
(Star Trek Fleet Command is pretty much utter shite, by the way. There's no real gameplay. Just the usual typical Android-centric money spinner story line.)
The big giant one near the end is repeated after the star trek game is repeated
Yes, Lockheed blended wing body sub hunter please.
I've grown to have a sincere love for the F-105 😍
"stabability"?!? That's a new one... 😂
Backfired....?
President Lloyd Johnson ? What would Melanie Patcher of the Tony (aka conswervative) party of the Unified Queendom of Grand Button and NE Iceland have to say?
the Model 49 looks like something out of GI Joe....i could totally see that fighting the ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world.
Everyone just always wants more speed
SR stands for Special Reconnaissance
You should do a video on the mi24
Weapondry is not a word
Imagine firing a missile and never see it because you fly faster than it 😂
Props to the animators! (I don't know if thats plural or... Lol) but I wanted to say for a long while I think. So there, job done!👍👍 what is that Maya or....?
Convair Model 49 aka stolen Dalek Tech.... just saying the Daleks made contact in 60s too...
Bruhh that Jet Intake
Arkhangel, like oligarch, Plutarch architect.
Comment for the alogritm 😊
Nice vid👍
Even the jets the Americans built back then are better than the newest Crynese J junk. 😂
235 kg, is the bomber made of helium?
What if the SR-71 Blackbird was a passenger plane?
i've always heard mach pronounced mock, not mack
So the premise of the YF12 was to build a blisteringly fast plane armed with air to air missiles that would scream towards the enemy bomber fleets identified by the radars and early warning equipment of the day and due to their speed would intercept the enemy and destroy them all far from home,,, as long as your home was in the USA and not somewhere near the expected interception point correct?
God I would absolutely love to take a peak behind the doors of the USA's most advanced and top secret technology, including all the supposedly recovered materials and the programs set up around them,, those guys are literally walking around in what to us normal folk amounts to a version of the future, effectively real life time travelers who work on a daily basis with things that we won't know about for at least 20 years and more likely 40 or 50 years!
Think about the advances in technology between 1984 to 2004 and then the advances from 2004 to now and just imagine what they have on the drawing board now!
President Lloyd Johnson?
Thunderbird 2
A=12 what they had several why is it on the NEVER BUILT PROTOTYPES ? derp derp
Concorde eat your heart-out.
0:44 the most useless plane in existence, if you go by price to performance, well, after b2 bomber
... So far. Never underestimate our govt desire to throw $ at a "wing & a prayer".
Very ignorant comment, the price is worth it to have the technology that no other country can build.
@@BRAINFxck10 if you spent an ungodly amount of money on tech, that nobody even bothered to try to copy, more likely than not, you wasted that money)))).
@@dungeondeezdragons4242 you're ignorant if you think Russia, China, or Iran didn't try to copy that tech and aren't intimated by a stealth bomber that can carry 16 nukes
@@BRAINFxck10 first of all you will have to tell me what is "stealth" for, on planes.
Then you will have to tell me about "15 nukes", since direct bombing of was outdated for about 40 years now, you know, 100mile+ range AA missiles and all.
And then you will have to tell me how, JUST 21, bombers are supposed to do anything in a conflict against a serious opponent that can actually fight back...
he said f 111 istead of f triple 1
So no cares
Are there actually people that say "F triple one?" I was in the Air Force, and everyone, including the one F-111 pilot I knew said "F one eleven."
@@ressljs yes people say f 111 f 11 1, f 1 11 or f 1 1 1 alot of ways
F Triple 1!? LMAO That's NOT how you say it, it's F-ONE-ELEVEN
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The A-12/YF-12 and Avro Arrow were both Mach 2+ fighters that had no role once ICBMs existed. Both scrapped.
Bagi vedio before canot see youtube no problem
i want one
I have one. I keep it on the bookshelf next to my p38-j lightning that I made when I was 12. Not to brag, but they were both level 5 kits.
How come you say mistle like an American instead of missile like Brits and older Aussies and Kiwi's? It sounds to me like younger Aussies and Kiwi's have been totally Yankified!
Wow
Awesomeness
MAC-NUH-MARA! JEEZE and Lyndon b johnson. This guy. Ugh
why design and build these just to waste time and money
ahh so china/russia just proved with their drone tech , hypersonic missile tech, liquid thorium salt reactor tech, & nuclear powered cruise missile tech that the flying submarine is possible. neato all problems you mention solved😌
Cool
Some weird pronunciation. AI?
Whats up
I want you to imagine if All Russian bombers were passenger planes
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Waaay to high comercial rate set by the creator. Torture to watch.
Yoooo
So, no other country in world had prototypes in 1960's - usual American-centric TH-cam fayre....
Nobody had military tech approaching the US in the 60s, and it's not even remotely close. The USSR's were all about how they did more with less, but if you are interested in technical razzle dazzle, it's all the US. Sorry bub the 20th century belongs to the US.
@@heraldhermes879 lmfao
Are you complaining that NOONE else wasted their GDP profits in useless Mach 3+ R&D?
Shhhh. Just let them think they're the best at everything.
@@SHERKHAN-8888it's not useless cuz other countries fear the capability of it so that's instant leverage
early
Yo here early
How can a prototype not be built?
It sounded like you referred to LINDON BAINES JOHNSON as LOY JOHNSON OR ROY
JOHNSON just sayin you were in error
say "McNamara"... My best friend was born with foetal alcohol syndrome and they would make a better job at voice over than you... 100% true 100% provable, .