Ariel Helwani says Tony Khan interview was 'frustrating': Wrestling Observer Radio

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  • Bryan and Dave discuss a segment from The MMA Hour where Ariel Helwani said his recent Tony Khan interview was "one of the most frustrating" of his career. [October 13, 2022]
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  • @skill14
    @skill14 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    My favorite Uncle Davism is telling Bryan to take the lead and rundown the show, and then Dave immediately interrupting

    • @lucasameks7926
      @lucasameks7926 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Vintage Dave

    • @MADGUNSMONSTER
      @MADGUNSMONSTER ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Classic MeltzerDriver.

    • @drjamesguitar18156
      @drjamesguitar18156 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Its priceless man I love it

    • @DaboRanch
      @DaboRanch ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Dave talks more than anyone without actually saying anything.

    • @Federer20Goat
      @Federer20Goat ปีที่แล้ว

      No clue how to have a conversation the dude is brain dead

  • @Maekar19
    @Maekar19 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Dave calling Khan frustrating because of the constant talking is very very funny

  • @JeremyOz
    @JeremyOz ปีที่แล้ว +278

    Ariel wants frustrating? He should try listening to 20 minutes of Dave talking over Bryan.

    • @BainesMkII
      @BainesMkII ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He should interview Dave. Then he'd have to consider whether it was better or worse to get 20 minute responses to every question, yet still receive no meaningful answers.

    • @RSW2508
      @RSW2508 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or 15 seconds of Bryan’s voice.

    • @hugrad95
      @hugrad95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmaoooo

    • @kennythetrend3688
      @kennythetrend3688 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RSW2508 Disagree. Love that mans vocal chords!

    • @ParadiseDB7
      @ParadiseDB7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unless Dave actually knows what he's talking about, Bryan is a complete joke

  • @derekolson2864
    @derekolson2864 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I love that Bryan said that he didn't watch the interview and then assumed what happened in the interview while what he talked about was around 3 minutes of the interview. Ariel would ask a question and then Tony would talk for like 5 minutes about something completely unrelated

    • @pankajsharma-zz4ho
      @pankajsharma-zz4ho ปีที่แล้ว +26

      exactly man i mean he is one of the if not the worst journalist(bryan) at this point he doesnt even hides how biased towards aew he is

    • @lifeofbrandon_
      @lifeofbrandon_ ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s normal for ppl doing interviews

    • @billrichardson6259
      @billrichardson6259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The issue is that you shouldn't take three minutes to ask one single question several different ways if you already know the answer where the subject can't answer - per legal. It soured the interview.

    • @HIta1999
      @HIta1999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s why Tony is so successful. He knows how to navigate this stuff. It’s his strategy. I respect it.

    • @og-ew7pw
      @og-ew7pw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HIta1999 yep.ariel is just mad bc he didnt acvomplish wat he intended he called out aew fans tony khan an then when to praised wwe it was obvious wat hes intentions were with this interview an there is no secret he is a wwe fan.so good on tony he knew exacly wat ariel was trying to due

  • @IAmRJai
    @IAmRJai ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Wtf is Dave Meltzer's actual point in all this...we've gone around in many circles and arrived at the same place.

    • @moralesharold87
      @moralesharold87 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He is trying to defend Tony without it being so obvious.

    • @originalrkmorton
      @originalrkmorton ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the media for ya

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      First time listening to Dave?

    • @moffattman93
      @moffattman93 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't imagine you'll be a regular listener to him long xD i remember when i first heard him a number of years ago and was like 'omg stop saying yknow and uhm you weiner' 😆 I'm only here cos it was in my feed and didn't know it was dave meltzars thing xD quickly paused, just so i could see if there was a quick summary of his point...you summed it up. so thanks for saving me 20 minutes 😅

  • @foreheadnutz
    @foreheadnutz ปีที่แล้ว +30

    If Bryan didn't hear the actual interview how can he have an opinion on the actual interview.

    • @SAMCRO_89
      @SAMCRO_89 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cause he's on Tony's payroll to praise them, he literally never says a bad word about him or AEW, so he automatically comes to his defense for everything so Tony will keep sending him the checks. So if he hears someone speaking bad of Tony Khan its automatically not Tony Khan's fault and the other guys fault. Bryan Alvarez is a pathetic AEW simp, being paid by Tony, its pretty well known. You can't take anything he says about AEW serious at all, he puts over even their bad stuff.

    • @keepyourhandsup6856
      @keepyourhandsup6856 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this 100000% this!!!! zero credibility

    • @damonjank1530
      @damonjank1530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s literally his career. Give his opinion on stuff he doesn’t understand.

  • @TopTierHater
    @TopTierHater ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Dave saying someone is frustrated because of constant talking is insanely ironic

  • @neiltambeau7710
    @neiltambeau7710 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tony Kahn is the reason fan boys should not run a wrestling company.

  • @Doom_DeLuise
    @Doom_DeLuise ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I give Dave's "you know. I mean like you knows" 6 stars

    • @ronniesouthern7829
      @ronniesouthern7829 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sprinkled in with the 7 star uhm, uhm,uhm.

    • @imfreviews
      @imfreviews ปีที่แล้ว +5

      8 if it were in the Egg Dome.

  • @ryans.1900
    @ryans.1900 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    sometimes I wish Alvarez had a "pause" button on Meltzer

    • @outlawmudshow9201
      @outlawmudshow9201 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd like it the reverse way. When Bryan goes full AEW superstan Meltzer should just mute him.

    • @BainesMkII
      @BainesMkII ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@outlawmudshow9201 Dave routinely "mutes" everyone, by stubbornly talking over them whenever they start to say something he doesn't want to hear. And if you want to call one of them an AEW stan, that would be Dave rather than Bryan. Though Dave is really just a pro wrestling superstan, protecting AEW and WWE equally.

    • @730F-Sport
      @730F-Sport ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He's redundant

    • @ryans.1900
      @ryans.1900 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@730F-Sport And very pedantic lol... Like, if someone asked him, i dunno, what he had for lunch, he'd reply with something like:
      "I had a sandwich. Well, actually, I don't know if you'd call it a "sandwich" per se, because sandwiches involve bread slices. But I didn't have any bread slices, ya know, so, like, I had to use hamburger buns. And for the meat, i had a sausage patty. So, like, technically, the sandwich was more reminiscent of a hamburger. But then you have to ask yourself, what exactly is the difference between a hamburger and a sandwich, ya know? They both technically consist of..."
      ...yada yada yada...

    • @ashreddevil
      @ashreddevil ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A permanent button!

  • @metalnuck3181
    @metalnuck3181 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dave Meltzer is like Dean Malenko. He’s The Man of 1000 words, and he tries to push them all in your ears in the first 60 seconds.

  • @6DADADA
    @6DADADA ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'd rather you both watch the interview and form an opinion instead of sitting here for 20 minutes and have you both dance around it

  • @obsoleteworlds
    @obsoleteworlds ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Imagine Dave finding anyone frustrating to talk to. Literally interrupting Bryan and repeating himself with his run-on sentences to point this out. 😆

  • @jordanspooner681
    @jordanspooner681 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Dave sounds like me trying to stretch and essay to 500 words

  • @matthewfrohbieter1803
    @matthewfrohbieter1803 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dave has to be the most inefficient talker in the world right now.

  • @djchino774
    @djchino774 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a journalist your job is to get answers to the hard questions. Bryan does not know that because he is not a journalist and his opinion of a good interview is asking questions that the subject is comfortable answering.

  • @1234sand1
    @1234sand1 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Quote from dave here, ppl ask me all the time about the fight. Like I'm supposed to know, well I know but I don't. Dave is amazing

    • @shedshitley
      @shedshitley ปีที่แล้ว +10

      he is without question an unrivaled journalistic talent, and he also once reported that during shibata's surgery the doctors removed his brain and then put it back. the duality of man

    • @1234sand1
      @1234sand1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@shedshitley 😆 🤣 😂 that was a classic meltzer moment

    • @jamesmiller5331
      @jamesmiller5331 ปีที่แล้ว

      7 stars

    • @PepsiMan666
      @PepsiMan666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@shedshitley Dave's dry sense of humor is lost on many people

    • @todpolk
      @todpolk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shedshitley reminds me of Dave saying “Mark” is equivalent to the N word

  • @bidgeon1423
    @bidgeon1423 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bryan Alvarez talks like that one teacher who tries to be your friend while also being the biggest douche at the same time

  • @619AJ
    @619AJ ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It wasn’t just about punk and the elite. He refused to talk about anything regarding MJF as well, amongst other things. So if you don’t wanna answer questions why go on the show?

  • @CrackaPackify
    @CrackaPackify ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So Dave and Bryan are angry that a real journalist didn't tickle Tony's taint like they do
    Quality stuff lads

  • @TTOF_JB
    @TTOF_JB ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I forgot Bryan was a part of this conversation for a minute there.

    • @rogerbabin8175
      @rogerbabin8175 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He didn't listen ti the interview so its not like he had much of value to contribute.
      I'm actually unclear if Dave did either come to think of it.

    • @TTOF_JB
      @TTOF_JB ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rogerbabin8175 I believe they both stated they hadn't. I was just referring to Dave talking over Bryan constantly.

    • @yosefvargasx
      @yosefvargasx ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a minute?

    • @RagnarokB
      @RagnarokB ปีที่แล้ว

      So did both Dave and Bryan

  • @jessica7228
    @jessica7228 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Question if you didn’t watch the whole interview from start to finish how can y’all talk ? He was supposed to ask hard hitting questions others wouldn’t dare to ask

  • @freestaterevolution
    @freestaterevolution ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dave talking about his dislike of the word “marks” 😂

  • @RyanGRyan1985
    @RyanGRyan1985 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Alvarez " I didn't hear the interview"
    Critiques the whole interview 😂😂😂, shil

    • @popetaytv
      @popetaytv ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Shits insane lol
      Alvarez: If he didn't want to talk about the fight ask other things
      Regular folk: He did and Tony still babbled about nothing

    • @johndunne550
      @johndunne550 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly!

    • @ascalise7235
      @ascalise7235 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He’s an absolute embarrassment.

    • @Am0ment0fB
      @Am0ment0fB ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You get it. Here have a 🍪. Ha.

    • @alokpandey8317
      @alokpandey8317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alvarez is biggest aew marks out here 🤣

  • @kidneystonermusic
    @kidneystonermusic ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Ariel: So I wanted to ask you-
    TK: Dynamite, Rampage, demos, Battle of the Belts, Quake at the Lake, Ring of Honor, everything and everyone is over, I'm not gonna take this shit, money everywhere, demos, ratings, football.
    Ariel: ... Allright

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath ปีที่แล้ว

      Sit back down kiddo.

    • @starbreaker269
      @starbreaker269 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@milk_bath what a lame response lol

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starbreaker269 You really thought you did something clever there, didn’t you? 🤤

  • @ROCKETS2965
    @ROCKETS2965 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The difference is WWE is probably smart enough to say going into the interview, "We're not talking about Vince, so if you want the interview to continue, don't ask."
    Tony probably wasn't, and has a reputation of being overly transparent to the degree that Ariel probably thought he could get something.

  • @lucymulligan4670
    @lucymulligan4670 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These guys should listen to themselves back sometimes.
    Admit to not watching the full interview: Proceed to spend the next 15 minutes talking about a small part of the interview. If they watched it they would know if was more than the backstage drama that wasn't answered.
    Call Ariel out for saying objectively WWE is better than AEW right now which is just his opinion. Dave then proceeds to say "there is a lot that AEW do better, they have better matches" As if that is also a fact. A bit hypocritical from Dave there.

  • @burb3rryb3ats
    @burb3rryb3ats ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Over time I've gradually moved away from F4W. All down to Meltzer and his CONSTANT interruption of anyone who speaks, power talks over everybody, and has the most soul draining and painful way of getting a point across, with 'um um yeah ya know um ya know um um yeah um ya know ya know um umm'. This guy is a 'journalist' yet struggles to string a sentence together. Embarrassing. I genuinely wanted to hear this, but of course less than 30 seconds into Brian talking about it, Tuna Melt takes over. I'm done with this clown

  • @TheBurke1986
    @TheBurke1986 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dave is such a mark.
    U think after 50 years of being in the tabloid business he would get how it works

    • @DaveyBlade13
      @DaveyBlade13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dave is not a real journalist, Ariel is. Simple as that 😂

  • @kevingraham4735
    @kevingraham4735 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow … Dave used 7 million words and said a whole lot of nothing 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @jlyon983
    @jlyon983 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Dave comparing wrestling promoters to sports leagues is the biggest takeaway here. They don’t need to be as transparent because they aren’t real sports. Ariel is a reporter who has burned bridges with the biggest promoter in MMA over lack of transparency (essentially) and still maintained his reputation and standing in the field. It tracks for him.

    • @jamesmiller5331
      @jamesmiller5331 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google Mype Sports Ariel helwani being a psychopath and you'll learn everything you need to know.
      But before this statement was made I guarantee you a big portion of aew fans that were aware of Ariel helwani would have told you that "it's his job" to stir up drama

    • @philo2189
      @philo2189 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Baddestman he's always in people's business.

    • @Absinthexx7
      @Absinthexx7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah this is one of the things that actually kind of annoys me about aew. They have a show that’s like 6hrs long and the. I see guys like Jericho come on and say how much fun they had putting the match together. It’s odd to me and I don’t understand why they do it

    • @Absinthexx7
      @Absinthexx7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @UCKyIPNav0OCcGSBv9YN71MA I agree with you but I also think that’s unfair to the wrestlers. They just had a match and now they’re expected to come out and talk to reporters in character. Seems like a weird thing that only exists because ufc does it but pro wrestling is completely different. Nobody’s ever expected this and I think it takes away from the show

    • @jaybee4288
      @jaybee4288 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the transparency helps the company though. Look at HHH giving his thoughts on Braun and Bray. That was good business for Ariel for sure but it was also good for WWE - lots of people watched that interview, he promoted his upcoming event, people praised him and said it was refreshing. He doesn’t ‘have’ to but it goes down a whole lot better than ‘I’m not going to talk about it’ because at the end of the day this is things that people are interested in.

  • @lewisgoulding763
    @lewisgoulding763 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Dave meltzer:
    *says something*
    "I shouldn't say that though it isn't fair and isn't a good look for reporters"
    *says it again two minutes later*

  • @imfreviews
    @imfreviews ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm just so amazed at these guys being apologists for Tony. I've said it before: can you imagine what the wrestling landscape would be like if guys like these two had 10 percent of the emotional investment in Vince McMahon that they do in Tony?

    • @luisugalde6956
      @luisugalde6956 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was until the other day when Dave himself was basically expressing the same frustations.

  • @eddieroche8176
    @eddieroche8176 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Alvarez: I haven’t watched or heard the interview.
    Also Alvarez: proceeds to critique Helwani’s choice of questions during the interview.

    • @axelerhate9705
      @axelerhate9705 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      well Alvarez is a TK mark

    • @nin_tendo6458
      @nin_tendo6458 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He can still know what the questions were if he didn't hear the interview...did you seriously not think of that?

    • @weedman0824
      @weedman0824 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I haven't heard the interview yet I know what he said, not hard to think why, everyone is talking about it 🤣🤣

    • @timmytv7554
      @timmytv7554 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nin_tendo6458 He could have just shut up and let the star of the show (Dave) talk about the portion of the interview he heard.

    • @ec5018
      @ec5018 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nin_tendo6458 reading is different than hearing it you don't get the sense of the persons emotions or reaction to the question

  • @whassupg89
    @whassupg89 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bruce is right. Dave can’t construct a sentence 😂

    • @dn22pkkdd476
      @dn22pkkdd476 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruce?
      Wayne?
      Why would Batman pay attention to wrestling dirt sheets?

  • @bobcassidy201
    @bobcassidy201 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ariel asked Khan "Do you really book by yourself or do you have a creative team?" and Khan just went on talking about Shark Week and Daniel Garcia who main evented a Dynamite and House of the Dragon and HBO... didn't answer the question.

    • @demoth
      @demoth ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that means he wants credit for it but he does have people feeding him idea. Basically what vince did. They say they have a creative team but vince override them on the daily

    • @kev30631
      @kev30631 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tony talked about his process in writing the show go back and listen to it. 41:40 mark in the TH-cam interview

  • @garciastyle
    @garciastyle ปีที่แล้ว +70

    hearing about a frustrating interview from an equally frustraing Dave.... im banging my head on the wall....

    • @kidneystonermusic
      @kidneystonermusic ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He literally said "I should know but I don't know ya know" 😂

    • @shuraito
      @shuraito ปีที่แล้ว +3

      then why are you here

    • @NostalgiNorden
      @NostalgiNorden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shuraito He doesn't listen. Is only a troll here to complain.

  • @Andrewkroesen
    @Andrewkroesen ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love Dave. "Everyone assumes I have some secret knowledge.... And I do."

  • @pankajsharma-zz4ho
    @pankajsharma-zz4ho ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i like how bryan hasnt even seen the interview but still he will give his take i mean if you havent seen the interview you just cant judge who is on the right just shows how aew biased he is

  • @TSTVluvr
    @TSTVluvr ปีที่แล้ว +27

    What's frustrating is hearing Dave having no idea how to carry on a conversation and talking over Bryan every time

    • @ShowtimeThaRaptor
      @ShowtimeThaRaptor ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Every single time

    • @polsdofer
      @polsdofer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. There's never a "I'm sorry Brian, go ahead". Not one damn time 😂

    • @ronniesouthern7829
      @ronniesouthern7829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Half of his conversation is uhm, you know, etc.

  • @shawnthomas3832
    @shawnthomas3832 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So Ariel hasn’t interviewed Dave yet

  • @carlosr6462
    @carlosr6462 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interviewer: How are you Tony?
    Tony Khan: sorry, I can't answer that question but Dynamite is on wednesday at 8pm and Rampage 10pm, we recently had the best ratings of all AEW history so you better tune in.

  • @xthexpunisherx
    @xthexpunisherx ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It's funny when journalists don't understand what opinion means

  • @ViewsContent
    @ViewsContent ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Bias is one of the worse things in the world. I absolutely love straight-up people. You have AEW yard fowls on one side and WWE yard fowls on the other. Then you have people that are honest about both companies.

    • @Danielson1818
      @Danielson1818 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think you can be a fan of one over the other, and keep it real. I'm def more an AEW fan, but I don't bs about the pros and cons of each. It's totally weird to listen to people explain away their biases. The internet just makes it worse with people hyping each other up, or tearing each other down. No motivation to be honest.

    • @sangan3202
      @sangan3202 ปีที่แล้ว

      in the case of this dude it just looks like he wants to talk about dirt no boss should talk about in a professional interview, good way to shoot yourself in the foot

  • @MScal0316
    @MScal0316 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is why people get frustrated with Dave & Bryan and the way they cover AEW. It's revisionist history to say Ariel was only focused on the backstage brawl. Yes, he did ask about the brawl but it certainly wasn't the focus of the whole interview. Ariel also asked about Tony's relationship with MJF, Tony declined to comment. Helwani asked Khan about Cody's departure to WWE. Khan said "I'm not going to comment on that..." When Helwani asked why "because I don't think it'll serve me well..." Ariel asked about Tony's conversations with Wyndham Rotunda. Tony said he wasn't going to comment (this was BEFORE Bray's WWE debut, Tony said no comment to THAT). Tony was asked about his promo on Nick Khan but wouldn't discuss when or what he's talked to Nick Khan about. So anything interesting that came up, Khan said no comment. Sure, legally he cannot speak about what happened in the brawl. He COULD discuss how he felt in that moment and there's also nothing legally holding him back from answering questions about MJF, Cody, Wyatt, Nick Khan , Stephanie McMahon etc Instead we got a greatest hits of Khan stories AOL, ECW, Bill Watts, Brian Pillman, Lou Thesz. My God, nothing like talking the audience to sleep.
    So it's funny all of the "journalists" are lining up to defend Tony Khan: "what did Ariel Helwani expect?" That line of defense is letting Tony Khan off the hook.

    • @joeyhoser
      @joeyhoser ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't know. It's pretty reasonable for him not to talk about people who work for the other company, or are/were in negotiations with, which is basically everything you listed.

    • @moralesharold87
      @moralesharold87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They both even said they didn't listen to the whole interview, so how credible are they exactly?

    • @gmcuttin1727
      @gmcuttin1727 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So what? he doesn't have to answer questions about certain topics if he doesn't want to. No need for Ariel to cry about it.

    • @kennethmckinney6274
      @kennethmckinney6274 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually both Tony Khan and Cody signed a non DA so neither size can talk about cody's departure legally

    • @sangan3202
      @sangan3202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bro is just trying to get scoops from the GM like hes gonna tell him anything

  • @egudszenties
    @egudszenties ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I listen to khan every Wednesday on Busted open. He answers nothing. He got Bully removed for asking him a tough question on the referees. He is an infomercial.

  • @kyleabent
    @kyleabent ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What is Dave even saying here for 20 minutes? Well ya know, ya know, ya know, ya know, ya know? Ya know.

  • @PaulNolanofficial
    @PaulNolanofficial ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m finding these two increasingly difficult to listen to. Bryan’s biases and trolling is becoming ever more out there in the open (he can scarcely be bothered to try and hide it under the veneer of being a ‘professional journalist’ any more), and Dave is just getting more and more exasperated the more people start to fairly and constructively critique AEW, it’s booking, talent management and overall direction.
    It’s a pretty sad state of the affairs. The quality of F4W has dropped off significantly in the last year, to the point where right here these two can’t even hold a coherent conversation as they’re mostly trying to talk over each other.
    Seriously, i think I’ll just stick to fightful from now on

  • @justin_opportunities
    @justin_opportunities ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Interview was fine, Ariel pressed Tony a few times and got nothing. Tony was polite but wasn't going to talk. Ariel started it on a weird note too

    • @justin_opportunities
      @justin_opportunities ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @The Baddestman no, Ariel opened with a ' I thought you didn't like me' comment, set things off poorly

    • @jlyon983
      @jlyon983 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He’s done this with professional fighters. Not limited to TK. It’s part of his unintentional schtick having seen it play out since the mid 00’s when he was coming up.

    • @MrTeamGuy
      @MrTeamGuy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jlyon983 not the best schtick to begin with :D

    • @jlyon983
      @jlyon983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrTeamGuy I respect a guy who is not afraid to conversationally address a point of contention with someone in a civilized way, and defend their points of view, right or wrong, if/when confronted.
      Helwani does that.

  • @jorge9207
    @jorge9207 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    its really cruel how Bryan has kicked himself in the nuts right there. Ariel ask about Saraya, didnt get an answer, he ask about MJF didnt get an answer then he ask about the release of a wrestler to go back to wwe didnt get an answer, he ask him about cody, didnt get an answer. the only thing khan talked about was his football stuff that noone cares about and the 4 hours and 15 min tv time they had that week. and then Bryon comes up with "yea just ask another question" dude he ask him as many other questions as he could, khan didnt answer anything. if i make an interview with the owner of a wrestling company to talk about his wrestling company and the guy wants to talk about anything but not his wrestling company then yea thats the most frustrating and useless waste of time an journalist can have.

  • @Drfrostybrew
    @Drfrostybrew ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Tony Khan was in total promoter mode in the interview and sounded like a robot.

  • @chicochannel7702
    @chicochannel7702 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I feel bad for Action Bronson though.. When he had him on his show last month AB gave like a blessing for Ariel cause they know each other and would put word out to let TK know that Ariel wanted a interview.. just weird spot to be in..

    • @phoenixmodellingphotography
      @phoenixmodellingphotography ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I watch the MMA hour every week and have always got the vibe that Ariel didn't like Tony from the jump

  • @celtic69
    @celtic69 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know what’s more frustrating, 2 “journalists” reviewing an interview neither have listened to.

  • @Crashj7f67h
    @Crashj7f67h ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw tweets about this on Twitter, but anytime I go on Twitter, I just see people tweeting about what happened and always have to find out what happened.

    • @dn22pkkdd476
      @dn22pkkdd476 ปีที่แล้ว

      The solution is simple.
      Don't go on twitter
      Fuck twitter
      Fuck twitter users

  • @MekanikKommandoh88
    @MekanikKommandoh88 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Not a Helwani fan at all, but the issue with the interview wasn’t that Tony wouldn’t talk about the fight. That’s a given.
    He wouldn’t talk about anything. Definitely felt like he didn’t want to be there, which makes me wonder why he agreed to it to begin with.

  • @ethanbradley2089
    @ethanbradley2089 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You know who doesn't like the term mark? And Dave is right. He wouldn't do the voice-over for the fight pit. He'd take money from WWF for a year, and not disclose it until he was terminated.

  • @tomofthepops
    @tomofthepops ปีที่แล้ว +18

    If you watch the interview he wouldn't give him an answer on most things not just the punk situation

    • @bluesandals5969
      @bluesandals5969 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A bit weird to talk about an interview neither of them have watched in its entirety.

    • @kev30631
      @kev30631 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tony doesn't like Ariel that much. So your not going to talk that much. Tony was using Ariel as a platform to advertise AEW

  • @andynichol4145
    @andynichol4145 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    also, in his interview with triple h on bt sport funnily enough, why didn't he ask him about vince mcmahon and all the women he had paid off?

    • @Alex-lf5oz
      @Alex-lf5oz ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because everything going on with that was already out. HHH also wasn't Vince's boss.

    • @greyfox4838
      @greyfox4838 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm an AEW fan, but this is shitty whataboutism, don't be so fragile, you aren't Tony Khan

    • @page6sean
      @page6sean ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Everything is out? Who told the WSJ about Vince's dirty deeds, down to the dollar amount? I bet Paul might know, seeing how he and his wife benefited the most.

    • @maqclark
      @maqclark ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@page6sean "The call is coming from inside the house"

    • @HelloShitty08
      @HelloShitty08 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Alex-lf5oz he could have asked him at least how he feels about it.

  • @scottdecowski4913
    @scottdecowski4913 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If, well, you know, Ariel, umm, crafted, ummm, his questions, you know, better 😆

    • @rubberchix
      @rubberchix ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s it’s it’s kinda like you know. You know back in the 70s okay there was this promoter and, it was a totally different situation but ummm

  • @shagrrr1865
    @shagrrr1865 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    It sounded like Ariel expected Khan to just tell him everything behind the scenes…….. massive mark

    • @Luigitron51
      @Luigitron51 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He didn't though. He asked how he felt about it. TK didn't go into have to into detail

    • @chrisfrew1624
      @chrisfrew1624 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I presume you’re talking about Tony Khan when speaking of a Massive Mark

    • @mfm4205
      @mfm4205 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisfrew1624 no, he meant ariel, the cripple h fanboy who let him lie to him for an hour.

    • @phoenixmodellingphotography
      @phoenixmodellingphotography ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@chrisfrew1624 We gotta nail a definition down on the word "mark" cause people just use it for anyone they don't like these days it means nothing

    • @poisonrana
      @poisonrana ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We’ve all gotta be massive marks to be on the observer TH-cam talking about this shit 😅

  • @kev30631
    @kev30631 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Your not mentioning that Ariel started off the interview with Tony by saying, "I thought you didn't like me". Tony implied that Ariel , subverted a process to interview one of his wrestlers. Meaning, Tony has to approve the interviews. So there was a history between them that was uneasy
    So Tony didn't completely trust Ariel or his intentions in this interview. So the interview was probably doomed from the start.

    • @chriskay1449
      @chriskay1449 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Then Tony never should have taken the interview in teh first palce. It is beyond stupid to take an interview then basically avoid answering almost every question. Tony cannot handle any sort of criticism towards AEW and will not talk unless it is to praise AEW.

    • @Dementia55372
      @Dementia55372 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@chriskay1449 If you are an interviewer and you only want to ask your interviewee questions you know they cannot or will not answer then you're either a bad interviewer or set up the interview in bad faith to try to make your subject look bad.

    • @philo2189
      @philo2189 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriskay1449 he's a promoter promoters promote dingus

    • @chriskay1449
      @chriskay1449 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Dementia55372 If you are not willing to answer ANY questions, why do you agree to do an interview in the first place? Tony is just as much guilty of bad faith as anyone. Stop making excuses for him. All Tony had to do was say "I was frustrated". That was all Ariel was asking for. Avoiding answering every question asked show TONY was the one there in bad faith, not Ariel.

    • @AKSourGod
      @AKSourGod ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chriskay1449 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @badaboom2321
    @badaboom2321 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bryan is so upset that a REAL sports journalist thinks Tony is a complete goof. What a mark 😂

  • @KingOfWinter
    @KingOfWinter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Dana is a more successful promoter than Vince”- what kind of statement is this. It’s so so so prove-ably false I can’t believe someone would even say it. Dana maybe more successful at this moment in time but overall Vince blows him out the water and considering Dana has a legit sporting product while Vince was selling the idea of a sport and also Vince is an old man and Dana is in his prime he should be beating him. But Dana hasn’t come close to the numbers Vince was putting up in the late 90s/early 2000s and he probably never will

    • @Maggot39967
      @Maggot39967 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah that statement shocked me too. It seems as if that time is just considered a fluke or something. Even though, the UFC was founded and running during the attitude era and did nothing like WWE/WCW were pulling in on PPV. I also think what you said about UFC being an actual sport and WWE not being a sport is rather important in the whole thing.

    • @KingOfWinter
      @KingOfWinter ปีที่แล้ว

      Trevor. Imo Dana having a legit sport is a very important part of this and to me it shows how great Vince could be at promoting when he was at his best. During the attitude era kayfabe was already dead. No one except little kids thought it was real and STILL they came out in the thousands to the arenas/stadiums and millions tuned in at home every week religiously. All for the idea of a sport Vince was selling them. To be fair to Dana that also means Vince could have a little more fun with the outcomes and it makes it a little easier to make a star but still the fact he could get anyone to invest anything into anyone of those guys when everyone already knew they weren’t “real” fighters is a testament to how good he was. Also people like to act like Vince killed the territories and while I will agree he helped tremendously in their downfall the real nail was kayfabe dying and no other promoter knowing how to promote wrestling without it. Nothing was stoping a rich guy from starting up another territory after Vince got rid of the existing ones and people did but it never worked even though that’s how it worked in the past and that’s because people didn’t believe anymore which to me is another testament to how good Vince was.

  • @runthebellwrestling
    @runthebellwrestling ปีที่แล้ว +4

    TK shouldn't be doing interviews while all of this is pending. Especially if he's getting ready to fire people and deal with potential law suits. Any comment he makes can be brought into evidence.
    But that's Tony's fault for agreeing to it.

  • @stacymirba1433
    @stacymirba1433 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Good Lord. This was quite something. 20 minutes of Dave saying absolutely nothing but trying desperately to pretend he saying something substantial.

    • @MADGUNSMONSTER
      @MADGUNSMONSTER ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s how he’s wired now.

    • @danmcculloch2487
      @danmcculloch2487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, the same thing as always then.

  • @RelentlessWrestling407
    @RelentlessWrestling407 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Funny how he literally says he didn’t watch the interview and then says you shouldn’t have a frustrating interview. Khan literally didn’t answer any of the deep questions. It wasn’t just the questions about the fight.

  • @TheGreatDevlin
    @TheGreatDevlin ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I watched a stellar episode of Dynamite last night only to wake up to this and WrestleTalk crapping on the company. It was the same thing last weekend with Impact's BFG show. Great show followed by a day of "Bully Ray in Impact, Dreamer booking" moans. The IWC is miserable.

    • @carlosr6462
      @carlosr6462 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      stellar? 😆

    • @TheGreatDevlin
      @TheGreatDevlin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@carlosr6462 yeah

    • @travissmith6380
      @travissmith6380 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I used to love Wrestletalk and whatculture and the like but now 95% of their videos are just PURE Negativity

    • @TheGreatDevlin
      @TheGreatDevlin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@travissmith6380 I won't say purely negative content but they're trading on negative headlines and clicks

    • @travissmith6380
      @travissmith6380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheGreatDevlin I did say 95%. every now and then they do something worthwhile. it's just you'll watch a great episode of AEW, WWE,NJPW or whatever and the next morning they have video telling you Charlotte and Andrade have called off there engagement.....only to see another video a week later celebrating there wedding that they told you was off

  • @Kjphsuubsjf
    @Kjphsuubsjf ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bryan saying just ask another question without watching the interview is also frustrating lol. Helwani asked multiple questions about a variety of topics and TK didn’t want to comment. At that point why even do the interview

    • @alessiogallerano7563
      @alessiogallerano7563 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are so right, Bryan drove me insane in this instance. TK just promoted his show for the entire interview which is fine I guess but give us something on anything. All the best mate!

  • @The_Halfway_Channel
    @The_Halfway_Channel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dave Tweets out that he doesn't have enough text to write everything he needs to there, then comes here and says absolutely nothing. He did the exact same thing and it's just as annoying

    • @RagnarokB
      @RagnarokB ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair, if you counted all of the words he used in order to say nothing, think of how many dozens of tweets he would have needed to use?

  • @GamesRule
    @GamesRule ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm sure it's frustrating to keep asking someone about topics they don't want to talk about. Tony Khan wanted to be there, he said multiple times he was having fun and could stay longer, but I don't feel like Ariel wanted to talk about anything that wasn't a controversy right now.

    • @starbreaker269
      @starbreaker269 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      An interviewers job is to ask the tough questions. Triple h probably didn't want to talk about sasha banks either but still responded

    • @sangan3202
      @sangan3202 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@starbreaker269 he didnt ask though questions he just wanted to know drama shit, lowest hanging fruit and its never smart to respond to those

    • @TomClancy-cq5om
      @TomClancy-cq5om ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sangan3202 It’s AEWs biggest, in terms of drama, and people want to know. Why wouldn’t he ask about it?

    • @manelsworld
      @manelsworld ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starbreaker269 There are fucking lawsuits that might come up of this situation and you want to treat it like something that should be publicly known and talked, but it shouldn't, they have to take care of it privately. This is a shitty interviewer doing a shitty interview.

    • @kev30631
      @kev30631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't get the impression that Tony liked Ariel at all. That was the first issue.
      Tony didn't trust Ariel so he was very guarded in his answers.

  • @stephen301281
    @stephen301281 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Haven’t heard the Khan interview so won’t comment on it. But the fact that Helwani seemed so comfortable afterwards to burn the AEW bridge after two high profile WWE gigs is… interesting.

    • @moralesharold87
      @moralesharold87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is his style, he would piss off a lot of people in MMA because he would ask a lot of questions even stuff he probably was not able to talk about. He does not work for WWE, he has done stuff with them but he is not an employee and if that is the belief why did Kahn take the interview. He also asked HHH some interesting questions during that interview and they were answered and moved on from.

    • @stephen301281
      @stephen301281 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@moralesharold87 I haven’t seen enough of him to argue. I’m sure you’re right. I don’t think he’s employed by WWE, though, but there’s obviously a relationship building there and it is very odd for a journalist, even a confrontational one, to speak so negatively about the fanbase and owner of a company if he wants to continue working with them.

    • @Heavy_C
      @Heavy_C ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He’s a real journalist… not a dirt sheet guy. He asks tough questions. Which is why Dana White blackballed him.

    • @RolfeSenpai
      @RolfeSenpai ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Heavy_C
      “Real journalist”. He didn’t ask HHH a single thing about the biggest story in wrestling of the past 20 years.

    • @kev30631
      @kev30631 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tony probably took the interview because of Ariel's recent interviews with WWE talent and triple h .
      Perhaps he saw it as and opportunity to push AEW on that platform also. To give the impression that he's as important as they are.

  • @ashleyramage6958
    @ashleyramage6958 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The frustrating part was Ariel asking HHH questions like how’s the weather etc. never once asked about Vince McMahon and how much of a coincidence it was that Stephanie McMahon & HHH were pretty much out of power. Then the Vince stuff breaks & Steph & Hunter are running the WWE. But Aerial continued asking TK the same question he was never getting an answer to due to legal issues

    • @Michaelhannahjr
      @Michaelhannahjr ปีที่แล้ว

      He literally asked him about his heart attack

    • @Heavy_C
      @Heavy_C ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are no legal issues. That’s a cover

    • @MrRyanlennie2005
      @MrRyanlennie2005 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Michaelhannahjr that’s not the same as asking him about Vince.

    • @jamesmiller5331
      @jamesmiller5331 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all a massive conspiracy to try and hurt the wrestling promotion that I love *unconditionally* 😍

  • @michaelmirza1933
    @michaelmirza1933 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Understandable. 90% of his good questions were met with, “No comment”. It wasn’t just the fight. It was the fight, it was HHH, it was contract stuff, it was Tony’s overwhelming amount of positions in life. All met with “I can’t comment on that”. Tony seems more happy to just plug plug plug away for Dynamite and Rampage anytime he gets hit with a tough question

    • @gmcuttin1727
      @gmcuttin1727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well he is a promoter, that's what promoters do.

    • @sangan3202
      @sangan3202 ปีที่แล้ว

      "good" questions lmao, you just want drama, of course the fucking boss isnt gonna say anything about that, youre also forgetting about the fight having an ongoing investigation im pretty no one should be saying anything about it rn

    • @michaelmirza1933
      @michaelmirza1933 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sangan3202 You seem to be tunneled on the fight. I don’t want drama, I want information. Grow up

    • @kev30631
      @kev30631 ปีที่แล้ว

      He doesn't like Ariel.

  • @steviemacc2745
    @steviemacc2745 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Take a shot everytime Dave says "you know", "um" & "but it's like.."

    • @ronarnold1507
      @ronarnold1507 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You'd have alcohol poisoning by minute four.

    • @cruzcorp914
      @cruzcorp914 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you want a murder charge? Because that's how you get a murder charge.

    • @chrissawyer1484
      @chrissawyer1484 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't do this, folks.

    • @leehazell7633
      @leehazell7633 ปีที่แล้ว

      You sir, are a serial killer.

    • @thedoobieshrew0244
      @thedoobieshrew0244 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pssd ot of mi minddd hahahhahhhhahahxhbxbndmjxvzm

  • @pooldead7712
    @pooldead7712 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Careful dave saying vince leaving is the biggest story for years to come, the tribalistic fans will go crazy lol

    • @pooldead7712
      @pooldead7712 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MeMe-td1ye yeah I'd love to hear what hhh knows.

    • @Maggot39967
      @Maggot39967 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MeMe-td1ye So, you don't consider Owen Hart to be a big story? If people are still talking about Vince McMahon paying for sex in 25 years then maybe I'll consider it a bigger story.

  • @thegreenhenryshow8809
    @thegreenhenryshow8809 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tony will talk a lot, but how much will he actually say?

  • @seannetworkblogsandgames7504
    @seannetworkblogsandgames7504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a reason we're spending time defending a SOURCE?? Like, journalism is pressing pertinent information for the public. The source is not supposed to get the benefit of the doubt. They're not supposed to get a pass because they "don't want to talk." You press as much as you can. Helwani got nearly 80 mins out of his interview, but with no actual meat, it felt like a puff piece. And he was frustrated because he doesn't like doing puff pieces, and unlike these two apparently, he has a standard of quality. It's on the source here. If Khan doesn't want to answer questions, he shouldn't expect to be invited back to media outside his echo chamber

  • @casas9425
    @casas9425 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Alvarez doesn’t even try to hide his AEW/Tony Khan bias anymore.

    • @flyguy7825
      @flyguy7825 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No he doesn't This conversation confirms it

    • @terminator2387
      @terminator2387 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cry

  • @apjapki
    @apjapki ปีที่แล้ว +18

    An interview with someone who won't talk is like a negotiation of what they ARE willing to give you. Ariel's schtick is he wants to be your friend and you tell him things because you are friends. He makes himself part of the story and if someone snubs him, he continues a personal beef on his show until the person makes up with him. This is Ariel. He's a decade long known quantity at this point and despite being a qualified journalist he lacks the very highest levels of professionalism (see when he called out Kevin Owens over a bad restaurant review). He isn't a bad person. He just is the kind of journalist that makes himself the story.

    • @MADGUNSMONSTER
      @MADGUNSMONSTER ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the first rule of Journalism is ‘never make yourself the story’.

  • @anthonyboumansour135
    @anthonyboumansour135 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why is Dave so upset about the term marks 😂😂

  • @jasonjimerson7046
    @jasonjimerson7046 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Ariel Helwani... is this the same guy who made a top ten list of notable wrestling talent from England, yet about half that list were wrestlers who weren't English?

    • @phoenixmodellingphotography
      @phoenixmodellingphotography ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The man has a sense of humour like a cheeky old grandma who thinks she's being funny or clever so you just play along

    • @ncxeno
      @ncxeno ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s also a 12 time ufc reporter of the year winner lol

    • @nathanwheller7037
      @nathanwheller7037 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So maybe just stick to the UFC stuff.

    • @brianmilici3473
      @brianmilici3473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This has what to do with his highly respected job as an interviewer..

    • @nathanwheller7037
      @nathanwheller7037 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JarodJoseph it doesn’t ever work out with your first or main love. That’s life

  • @Andru
    @Andru ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can definitely understand why…all Tony wanted to talk about is what time Dynamite and Rampage air, and promote the matches like the interview was an advertisement.

    • @Krispen_Wah
      @Krispen_Wah ปีที่แล้ว

      This sounds crazy to me. A promoter is promoting? Mind blown...

  • @greeneyedspick
    @greeneyedspick ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Only thing was to the frustration Ariel went through is the frustration of me listening to Dave taking 383883 minutes to never get to a point

    • @welowee7610
      @welowee7610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s like listening to a song that never have a chorus 🤣

    • @RolfeSenpai
      @RolfeSenpai ปีที่แล้ว

      @@welowee7610
      So… most of Pink Floyd?

  • @jasonrevington
    @jasonrevington ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Helwani sounded insecure right off the bat in the Tony interview. And then in his whiney complaint about how frustrating it is he sounded like a petulant whiney child. I always thought Helwani was a pro until I heard him whine. His insecurity regarding how he feels Tony feels about him showed.

    • @rubberchix
      @rubberchix ปีที่แล้ว

      You have low IQ

    • @Copperstoned
      @Copperstoned ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s the other way around. TK got offended by a question and walked out of an Ariel interview earlier on and then dodged Ariel for many, many months. Ariel even hints at the same right off the bat in the TK interview. TK does the media but he likes to pick and choose because he’s a *mark* who likes to work everything.

    • @thedoobieshrew0244
      @thedoobieshrew0244 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont find I'm a good interviewer, comes of bumbling, hesitant and nervous

  • @tray3483
    @tray3483 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    it's funny how people who call dave, alvarez and others aew shills aren't keeping the same energy with ariel who is taking a paycheck from wwe and calling him a wwe shill.

    • @originalrkmorton
      @originalrkmorton ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a funny thing, that thing called projection

    • @billrichardson6259
      @billrichardson6259 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ariel is taking the hypocritical oath.

  • @ChichiNaka
    @ChichiNaka ปีที่แล้ว

    These guys not listening to the interview before talking about it on a podcast is peak wrestling journalism and these two have been at it longer than almost anyone

  • @Booth55555
    @Booth55555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would it be possible for Dave Meltzer to complete an actual sentence? Every time I listen to him talk I get this (he doesn't know what he's talking about and he's stammering to talk around it without actually letting people know that he's got no info on it vibe)

  • @1234sand1
    @1234sand1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    He bryan u literally said u didn't watch the interview lol, but now u are talking like you did.. mate you need to get ur facts straight 💯

    • @matthewfrohbieter1803
      @matthewfrohbieter1803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it’s pretty frustrating. Bryan was so indignant on a topic he has no clue about.

  • @craig581
    @craig581 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I must have missed Ariel's questioning on the Vince McMahon scandal for HHH.

    • @adamparker7769
      @adamparker7769 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      WWE is ran like a real business and probably made it known before the interview the things Triple H would and would not talk about. TK clearly didn’t do that. If he had, he would’ve missed out on the chance to promote his show in Helwani’s platform because.

    • @joeyskywalker1322
      @joeyskywalker1322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why would Ariel question Triple H about Vince 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

    • @billrichardson6259
      @billrichardson6259 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joeyskywalker1322 Why WOULDN'T he?? ...That's only the biggest story in Wrestling this year.

    • @joeyskywalker1322
      @joeyskywalker1322 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billrichardson6259 Because Triple H had nothing to do with Vince allegations he’s not involved Tony Khan was directly involved with the Media scum and he’s the boss and then again Ariel didn’t only asked Tk about the media scrum or fight he asked him multiple other questions TK didn’t answer and he would just talk about something else if he was gonna do all that then why even do the interview at all then

    • @joeyskywalker1322
      @joeyskywalker1322 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billrichardson6259 Also WWE is a professional organization it’s highly likely they had told Ariel before the interview started to not asked certain questions maybe TK should of did the same thing

  • @rlboozer56
    @rlboozer56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, I’m seriously getting fed up with Meltzers inability to finish a fucking thought, either tell him to start doing a better job or I’m out and I’m sure I’m not the only one

  • @briancraig3929
    @briancraig3929 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing is, shouldn’t AEW PR let Ariel (or any interviewer) know in advance what is off limits? Why would you leave that open to come up in the interview?

  • @Debajyoti_P
    @Debajyoti_P ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of them watched the interview partly another didn't watch it at all and they are arguing about it . 😂😂😂

  • @Mike-tu3ev
    @Mike-tu3ev ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ariel asked more questions than just about the fight! And he got the same cowardly answer from Tony. Keep defending AEW though 🤡

  • @oreosandmilk67
    @oreosandmilk67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh hey this sounds interesting. Nevernind, Dave is here.

  • @QuestOfChris
    @QuestOfChris ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone needs to get Dave a "y'know box" it works similarly to a swear box.

  • @Burns-en9sk
    @Burns-en9sk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always got the impression that Tony Khan was a bit of a pretender and the way crumbled when faced with fairly simple questions pretty much confirmed it. I mean, for a guy who's supposedly heavily involved running sports franchises and wrestling companies and analytics firms all at the same time he didn't seem to have a lot of detail to share as to how he does all of that other than "well cell phones." He really had no good explanation for taking shots at Nick Khan and then got caught lying about getting tough with Nick Khan over NJPW minutes after admitting he'd never spoken to him. He didn't want to talk to talk about Cody because he has never been able to admit to the slightest mistake or disappointment. Tony clearly went into the interview expecting the usual interview he does where he screams nonsense about Friday Night Wars and "I have more money than Jim Crockett!!" and wasn't prepared for someone to ask him to support his claims.

    • @vonVile
      @vonVile ปีที่แล้ว

      Tony Khlown is too use to people blowing smoke up his ass. Scrums are just news sites giving Tony BJs.

  • @aewmark9618
    @aewmark9618 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Areil should take this a learning curve.

  • @ShootItALBY
    @ShootItALBY ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s no wonder Dana White hates this man

    • @ChrisWolff2013
      @ChrisWolff2013 ปีที่แล้ว

      While a huge portion of UFC fighters hate Dana.

  • @MrKillian1983
    @MrKillian1983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TK avoided plenty other questions he could have answered. It was not just about the fight. AEW fans need to stop kissing the companies ass all the time. They have made a lot of mistakes and continue to which ultimately will lead to their demise.

  • @nickpappas17
    @nickpappas17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course Bryan didn’t watch the interview and just immediately defends Tony. Fuckin Mark.