I think Elmer Keith said it best, "A .270 is a damned adequate coyote rifle" Seriously though a .270 Win with a decent 150 gr cup and core or 130 gr mono is more than adequate for anything that isn't dangerous. I've seen more than one 600 lb Waterbuck taken with a .270 Win. One thing for sure, it's a whole lot easier on the shoulder than a .300 Win Mag when you need a flat shooter.
@@gk5891 told a guy once that I harvested a good bull elk with a 130grn out of my 270. . I would be scared to shoot anything on the face of the earth with my 270 he told me sonny here is a lot of differences between a elk and a elephant. Thought a moment and told him just alot of miles. 😁
I've killed numerous deer with both calibers and didn't notice any difference in performance between the two. They're both great calibers. The thing about the 30 06 is you have a much wider range of bullet weights which makes it more versatile. Thanks for your video.
Lance, I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. Both great rounds. At 77 years old I prefer lighter recoil and since 2000 I have been shooting a custom sporterized M96 6.5x55 Swede. Now you talk about a sweet round !!!
Good video! I’ve hunted with both calibers and no issues with effectiveness. I’ve reloaded both. My shoulder prefers the .270 and my freezer doesn’t comment. Thx for sharing!
I think Jack O'Conner said it best in one of his books, to paraphrase him- "I have three rifles in 270 and three rifles in 30-06 and that's how I feel about that." Although he felt the 30-06 was more versatile. Thank you for posting your tests. Valuable information.
Most people would compare a 130gr 270 to a 150gr 30-06, but the BC and SD are much different. Good on you for choosing the 165, much better comparison. I own both calibers but only hunt whitetail deer so I don't think they will care which one I use!
Excellent comparison. If you want a true apples to apples comparison between two calibers you always get the bullets that are the closest in ballistic coefficients and sectional density.
I agree only to the terrain you hunt and your position on the terrain. If you are flat shooting across 300 to 500 yards, yes the .270 will be more consistent than the ol’ government workhorse. You get into the hills, mountains, or any scenario with shooting angles 10 degrees or more, up or downhill, and the flat shooting rifle doesn’t matter. You have to understand and really “get to know” your rifle in these situations.
You can't go wrong with either round. All things considered including performance and efficiency and economy they both could still be the best rounds for hunting period. That being said I will give the nod to the flatter shooting 270 for my needs here in AZ.
Sitting here in Va getting the last of my move lined up, looking forward to getting home to Ak tomorrow. Shipped out about 10,000 rounds of accumulated ammo yesterday! Ready for caribou.
The 270 was much faster and destructive a the range you shoot! Looking at the bullet, the 270 would reliability open at much greater distance than its parent case... 270 and cooper bullet are a very good match imo!
The penetration being virtually the same and the 270 with much less drop along with the less wind drift plus the damage looked more extensive as well with the 270. I believe with the higher speed would cause a larger temporary wound channel which would disrupt more tissue causing more organ damage and bring on a faster kill. With less recoil I believe I'll choose the 270.
One thing that amazes me about the 30 06 is that although the industry standard for the cartridge is capped at 60,000 PSI per Sami Specifications Hornaday has managed to safely squeeze 200 more feet per second out of a 150 grain bullet. 😉
To get over 2900 fps with that long 165 gr GMX out of a 22" barrel is really impressive! GMX bullets because are less dense than lead and this weight for weight against a lead core bullet makes the longers requiring they be seated deeper leaving less room for powder. All combined the performance they are achieving is nothing short of amazing. Its creaping in on the heals of a 300 win mag shot from a 22" barrel. Great job Hornady!
I own a .270 and a .30-06 both. Which one I take depends on where I'm going hunting. Love both of them. Now, if I'm hunting in thick brush, I'll take my .444 marlin.
The old Jack O’Connor versus Elmer Keith controversy. Lighter and faster versus heavier and slower. Either one will do. Great video… Thanks for your effort.
That brings back memories, Jack O'Connor/Elmer Keith. I leaned more toward Elmer, "you can eat right up to the hole with a 44, those fast bullets cause blood shot and tare up the meat". Those were some good day's the O'Connor Keith days 👍
I love the GMX projectiles. I have had great success in my 7mm-08 with them. I currently use Barnes VOR-TX 150 gr. in my .30-06, but I would not hesitate to use the Hornady ammo. My rifle likes the Barnes, so I am sticking with it. Greetings from central Kentucky.
@AlaskanBallistics The 130 grain load is the most powerful load in the 30-06, the 2nd most powerful load is the Horandy 190 grain CX loads: 2,770 ft/s 3,237 ft-lbs
I own 3 of each love 30-06, 270 both my tikkas shoot 1/2 inch groups with the TTSX 165g 30 Cal and TTSX 140g 270. My Brownings are not as good but 1" groups are common. The Rugers are in the middle with just over 3/4 of a inch groups. Either will kill moose or deer or bears my wife likes the bit less kick of the 270 so guess she has 3 to pick from but the X bolt seems to be her favourite.
270 - all day long-- I'm an old man now- but ive hunted the open west for mule deer & antelope for 40 YRS , and 270 has always been the number 1 choice-- us old timers would just shake our heads and chuckle when we come across the first timers at the processor's with their 7 mags & 300mags and blown up animals-- and now its 6.5 creedmoor & 277 fury 😅 - nothing the 270 can't do as well-- RIP , JACK O'connor
Love your reviews. This past hunting season I used the 165gr GMX Superformance ammo and couldn’t have found a better bullied/ammo for my Sauer 100 30-06. I was very impressed with the accuracy and performance on game this year. This is now my go to hunting bullet/ammo for all game we have here in Western Canada which includes using as a defence round against grizzlies that I seem to see every year in my forays for sheep, elk and moose.
@@AlaskanBallistics shot a whitetail doe and a 5x5 buck. I was very surprised with how both animals reacted to the hit as they dropped on the spot. Now I know all animals react differently and I’ve seen it all my life but it was impressive. I’m wouldn’t hesitate to use 165gr GMX this on elk, moose and bear. Die was at 70yds and buck about 140yds. I shot a young moose with my 7-08 using 139gr GMX Superformance at about 110yds. It dropped on the spot.
I really appreciate the suggestion I am going to have to find somebody that I it's going to have to find somebody that has A270WSM and we're gonna have to fuck USM and we're gonna have to find similar ammo.... It'll probably be next year before I get to it but remind me. Thank you for watching and for the suggestion!
I own both and I've shot deer with them. The critters can't tell the difference. Dead is dead. I do prefer the 270 if distances get longer though. Cheers
@@AlaskanBallistics online . Haven't seen any localy or I would of grabbed them. I found the barns ttsx locally theo. And Remington jsp and Remington jsp bonded. And sirra 60 to 80gr
Great comparison for me as I recently purchased a .270 & own 2 x 30-06 rifles. Dabbling in reloading a bit too, so the near identical performance of the GMX bullets in both calibres gives me good reason to consider them as the go to projectile. I already have a box of GMX bullets in .30 cal, so getting some in .277 now is almost a no brainer. Thx!
.30-06 for me, second choice would be the .270! I want to build a .338-06, it will shoot a 225 gr. bullet almost as fast as the .30-06 shoots a 180 gr. bullet.
Midway has .308 Superperformances up right now, so I came here for some feedback. But they use the ELD bullet and not the GMX. So I'm glad I avoided that mistake.
Much respect for 30-06, but where I hunt in southern Ontario Canada with caliber restrictions during certain seasons the .270 is king. I sold my 06 for .300win mag that paired with my .270win and 12gauge 870 a country boy can survive! Great video, love your channel! Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦🤘
I started hunting on the 270 and two years later got my 30-06. I’ve dropped every deer on the first shot with my 30-06 but I shoot 180 or 200 grain. I never killed on the first shot with my 270. Of course that’s on the cartridge and what not. I just prefer my 30-06 and that will always be my rifle
Both are great... bigger, more power, more penetration or lighter recoil, flatter shooting.. Where I hunt, its impossible to shoot further than 150 yards, and that's why I use my 35 Whelen with 225gr buffalo bore. Never failed on deer, bear and moose
@@jamesbromstead4949 - I appreciate your insight. The 30-‘06 is definitely more flexible with bullet weights. I got rid of my 25-‘06 when I got a 270, go figure lol.
@@falba1492 I had great success with my .270. Ammo is easy to find, Bullet choice is great. It was just so close to my .30-06, it was hard to choose. So I picked the 30 cal. But you can't go wrong with the .270.
Both are impressive. Here in Louisiana, I'd go with the.270 but if I were going to hunt Alaska, would rather have the 30-06 but .270 most likely would be fine.
I enjoyed the video 👍 I like both of them but I will go with the 30-06 with the GMX because I have both, but after viewing this video now I have to get the 270🦌 Thanks 🇺🇸 GOD BLESS AMERICA, The right to keep and bear arms shall not 🚫 be INFRINGED 👍🇺🇸
The 270 is a little better on the numbers and penetration because of its speed. The 30-06 has more versatility because of options in bullet weights. Jack O’Connor wasn’t a rookie and knew guns, ballistics and hunting better than anyone and he even picked the .270.
You might want to read more of Jack O'Connor's writing. He chose many rifles and most notably the 7x57. What made the .270 so famous was the invention of affordable scopes by Weaver.
Jack O'Connor also hunted extenvively with a 30-06 and a 375 H&H. Although he is known and remembered as being a great advocate of the 270 which he shot often, it wasn't at the exclusion of other rounds which he shot as often or more, particularly in Alaska. Gun writers pick a product and run with it. The 270 is a superb round, in my mind it's close to the 7mm Mag with light bullets but the versatility of the 30-06 cannot be discounted. O'Connor used one as much as anyone else.
@@paulhomsy2751 I am absolutely aware that Jack O’Connor did not exclusively hunt with the .270 and I’m also aware that he did for the most part make the .270 famous. I totally agree that the .30-06 is a more versatile round than the .270 as far as bullet weights go which allows the hunting of a little larger game. However if you are hunting deer sized game, you can’t make a animal “more dead” so I would choose the .270 because it’s faster, shoots more flat and has less bullet drop. When it comes to the 7mm rem mag, that round/caliber beats the .30-06 in every single calculation and ballistic category. A more apples to apples comparison would be the 7mm rem mag vs the .300 Win mag. Both are magnum calibers and on a more level playing field.
Ive got a 30-06 and a 270, and Im not ever selling either!!! Only trouble I have is which one to take Moose hunting in Quebec this October!!!! Awesome video thanks!!
Love these tests. I’ve used 150 grain 30-06 GMX on elk and pronghorn, worked fabulously. Both shots well under 200 yards though, so good velocity and thus bullet expansion.
I’d be curious if the 150 was north of 3000fps and closer to the 270, velocity wise. I think there’s an ideal weight of monolithic for a given caliber and range it’s intended to be used at. You have to get those things screaming if you want reliable expansion past about 400 yards.
I have had both and think both are outstanding. If you hunt bigger game like moose, bear and elk I’d lean towards 30/06. For deer and pronghorn, 270 is tough to beat.
I chose.270 back in the early 90s when I got my first rifle. I bought a browning bar last year and re visited the old deer camp debate on .270 vs 30-06.... I purchased another .270 because of softer recoil. I shoot American whitetail ammo in it, and it is destructive . I’m liking the gmx results though .... the proof is in the pork shoulders my 30-06 brothers !!! Cant deny terminal ballistics!!!!!
Where I deer hunt in Texas we rarely shoot over 150 yards so either caliber works well. Like many, I prefer the .270 & feel like I shoot that rifle a little better. Great video- thanks
Mono metal bullets are hard to beat when it comes to penetration and weight retention. Though I haven't used the gmx I 've loaded and hunted with barnes tsx and ttsx in several calibers.
This ammo intrigues me probably more than it should. On one hand I see so little use for it, given the amount of power both of these cartridges carry in their normal loads. On the other hand, it boosts power enough to forego buying a magnum rifle for those rare opportunities to hunt game larger and denser than deer. Most of us just don't hunt game bigger than deer. And a lot of us that do get to make that "big trip" don't do it more than a very few times. On those rare trips we probably would be better off with our familiar favorite deer rifle shooting this ammo than going to a new magnum rifle that we have far less trigger time and field experience with. Maybe this ammo is not yet totally understood for purpose beyond just more power.
Just to note this ammo may not expand well below 2000 fps, or so I've been told. The barnes ttsx is better for that and their LRX is superb down to 1500 fps. But i do agree with your sentiment. I think having the right ammo in a rifle you're familiar with is better than having a 300 win mag you can only afford a few shots
I like the 30-06 more for the wider range of bullet weights. I believe the .270 is a more specialized around and a great one as well. I like 30-06 for its versatility and that’s why I have one.
"Either or" works for me. My experience using both is that they both do pretty much the same thing and get the same end result. I do believe that homogenous copper bullets are a bit of an equalizer twixt the the twain, though. If someone were to ask me back in the pre-Barnes X bullet days which I'd rather have as an Alaskan rifle, it would have been .30-'06 all the way and I might ask if I could have a .35 Whelen, instead. But that was then and this is now. I'm very probably going to be shooting homogenous copper bullets in either one. That being the case, I don't think there's a land animal in Alaska that I couldn't kill stone-cold dead with either one. Might as well enjoy a little less felt recoil and a little flatter trajectory..... On the other hand, my .30-'06 is a satin-black Trinyte over stainless steel Remington M-700 with the 24" barrel that I sometimes think even God Himself meant for the .30-'06 to be shot out of..... It's already bought and paid for, the recoil ain't THAT bad, and it shoots flat enough......
You mention the .35 Whelen. My sweet rifle is a .35 Whelen. I sold all my magnum rifles once I got it cuz I don't need them. The .35 Whelen is the most efficient round I have ever loaded for. A 225 grain bullet at 2800 fps is just under 4000 foot pounds of energy at muzzle. I could match that with my 338 but it took at least 10 grains more powder.
I have a Browning A-Bolt .270 and hope to soon add a 30/06 to the collection as well! Both are very effective against animals in my home state of Alabama!
Save your money, let the 30/06 go, my option. You just don't anything stronger than the mighty .270 in North America including Alaska. According to the many ballistic tables, the next caliber above the .270 is the 300 Magnum. My personal experience taking big game will always be bullet placement. I don't ever remember going for a heart shot, they won't stop a Grizzly! Having read a true story where it took five shots to finally drop a Grizzly which nearly killed the shooter, which left me wanting for a much better solution when I read another chilling experience with a large dangerous animal. Turneout the man was using a .270 and he dropped the bear with one shot only. He took careful aim and shot him just below the ear in the neck and I never forgot that. As a young man myself, there after, I never aimed for the heart and never needed more than the one shot. Ballistics will always tell the capibility of any caliber that you can trust and the .270 is more than enough! I've learned over the years that most of these rounds today are all about the hype to sell the latest caliber, when this .270 caliber has more velocitie and kenetic energy than most. Again, my personal experience and opinion. Good luck and Good hunting!!
Great ammo. I’ve bought some of both, at $40 a box! But I use Superformance powder on my 30.06 reloads with 150 grain Hornady SST bullets and they are same hole accurate at 100 yards.
I have both and they work well. Mine are so close in trajectory that for me it comes down to the rifle. My .30-06 is a winchester xpr with 24" barrel weighing 8.5lbs with a scope. My .270 is a savage lightweight hunter with a 20" barrel and only weighs 7.3lbs scope included. There's no noticeable diffrence in recoil because of the weight difference. So I suppose for hiking type hunts I'd pick the .270 Win.
I agree. I love my 270, but ammo choices are limited. My 30-06 is my woody area gun. I don't carry them as much after two shoulder surgeries. The recoil wasn't as hard on me before the surgeries. But yeah....
@AdublBeatz Load up some 130gr barnes ttsx to a grain below maximum with a slow burning powder in that .30-06. Stop kill anything on the planet, get you about the same speed as a .270 130gr and kick way less
I will put it this way: If you were being charged by an Alaskan brown bear and your only choices were a 130 grain bullet in a .270 Win, or a 165 grain in .30 / 06, which would you choose? Enough said.
As usual an excellent video, entertaining and illustrating what I suppose many have in mind. Both results were excellent, depending on where one hunts I'd chose the 30-06 for Alaska. I've shot the Hornady Superformance 300 Win.Mag 165 grains GMX advertised at 3260 fps. My results were 3259, 3261, 3262. and a very tight 1/4 inch clover leaf. Too bad Hornady discontinued this excellent bullet.
@@AlaskanBallistics I've not been able to put my hands on them so in the meantime I stocked up on several Barnes 30 and 338 Calibers but I'll try the CX as soon as I can find it. Your test removed all doubts as far as the terminal performance of the Hornadys is concerned. I've also bought a couple of boxes of Nosler E-Tip but haven't shot those yet. I'll keep you posted.
30.06 for me. More versatility in rounds. I can find 30.06 everywhere. I barely notice the recoil with my browning xbolt. I have taken moose and whitetails with my 30.06.
Great video once again brother. Both would work fine, but I'll always take an '06 over the 270. There's something about the larger frontal area that helps in killing that can't be measured by any means that I know of. I'd like to see this test done between the 06 and 7 Rem Mag.
@@AlaskanBallistics Cool. For me personally, I don't care if the bullets match up spec-wise for BC/SD. What interests me most (and maybe most of your viewers) is how the most common weight bullet in each cal matches up ie; 150 or 160 in the 7 mag vs a 165 or 180 in the 06. As long as construction of the bullets are the same, I'd say that that would be a very valid comparison and closer to what one could expect when hunting with both rounds over a wide range of brands of ammo etc. No matter how you do them, I enjoy these videos very much. I used to do a lot of "backyard" experimenting like this back several years. I own rifles in most of these calibers so "my" round is always in the running LOL
I promise you the animal will not notice the few tenths of an inch frontal area that big heavy hard kicking and obsolete 30/06 produces. The 270 will do everything the 06 does and more and do it better.
@@joshlower1 A few tenths of an inch?!? More like thousandths, and yes, anyone that knows much about ballistics knows frontal area makes a big difference in killing power. No AK guide will recommend a 270 for grizzly or brown bear over a 30-06 unless it is a very young person behind the gun, or a woman, either of which can't handle more recoil than the 270 will provide. With handloads, the 30-06 is superior t the 270 any way you want to slice it.
I'm sure they do on whitetail and such sized animals but for larger I'd want something bonded. But if you can shoot them well out of your rifle, that's the main thing
Very good comparison. I have both of these rifles. I like both of them. I would be hard pressed to choose between them. I must admit my go-to rifle is my .270 Weatherby Vanguard w/ Leupold rifleman scope 3-9x40mm. It is amazingly accurate and tough as nails. This is my personal favorite go-to rifle. I use Rem corelokt 130 grain ammo. I deliberately chose this ammo because it is a great bullet, shoots incredible in the weatherby and is (was lol) readily available in almost any store in USA.
@@AlaskanBallistics I know, rem is falling apart as a company. Bummer. I might try Hornady interlock and see how it performs. I really don't want to reload for another caliber. lol
Both seem good. As for what is "better", I like 270 for areas with longer shots and 30-06 for closer. I understand the bullet selection based on sectional density. Would be interesting to see this comparison run with "common use" bullet weights. Such as the 130 in the 270 and the 150 in the 30-06.
@@AlaskanBallistics I agree that it isnt a "caliber vs caliber" comparison, I see it as a "common weight vs common weight" comparison. Kind of like Pual Harrald does his "test one, closest slug weights I can find; test 2, common use slug weight". I personally like to see matching SD tests and common use tests.
I'll stick with my .270, it has treated me well. I've taken white tail deer, pronghorn and cyote. Shoots very well out to 300 yards. 1973 vintage Remington 700 Bushnell scope, only upgraded was a trigger.
I like the looks of that 30 0 6 bullet . But my shoulder chooses the 270 win . I have a vanguard 24 in barrel. Just might switch ammo. To g m x. Looks good.
Just be careful out may not open at low velocities at 300 to 500 yards. Barnes LRX is a little better, but loses its petals more easily. Brown Bear at 100 yards or less, use the hornady GMX. Caribou at 400 yards barnes lrx.
Again, I would remind everyone, that Jack O Connor, Mr 270, said that the 3006 was superior to the 270. That was a quote. Long time ago, still true today. 😀
I didn't realize a 270 was so close to the 30-06. I have a 270 and a 300 win mag. I always thought the 270 was less than it is. Good to know the facts. Thanks! I still like the pairing: 270 and 300 WM.
Those two rifles should take care of anything in the world you'd want to hunt with maybe the exception of cape buffalo, rhino and elephant. I need a .300 win mag for the channel.
Ether is great . The 270w is a great all around cartridge in its own respect. but there are alot more options for the 30-06 in bullet weight. In factory ammo (when available) lol . My grandfather hunted out west with a magnum but his 06 always went with him always could count on it to get the job done . And great video thanks.
In Oregon where it's not uncommon to take a 300-400 yard shot, I use the .270 130 gr for the flat trajectory.
That's a good choice
Im a 270 guy but you cant deny the 30 06 is one of the very best. Both old.both great.
Agreed.
I think Elmer Keith said it best, "A .270 is a damned adequate coyote rifle"
Seriously though a .270 Win with a decent 150 gr cup and core or 130 gr mono is more than adequate for anything that isn't dangerous. I've seen more than one 600 lb Waterbuck taken with a .270 Win. One thing for sure, it's a whole lot easier on the shoulder than a .300 Win Mag when you need a flat shooter.
I have bothe not scared of either one
@@gk5891 told a guy once that I harvested a good bull elk with a 130grn out of my 270. . I would be scared to shoot anything on the face of the earth with my 270 he told me sonny here is a lot of differences between a elk and a elephant. Thought a moment and told him just alot of miles. 😁
I've killed numerous deer with both calibers and didn't notice any difference in performance between the two. They're both great calibers. The thing about the 30 06 is you have a much wider range of bullet weights which makes it more versatile. Thanks for your video.
Thanks for watching Lance
Lance, I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. Both great rounds. At 77 years old I prefer lighter recoil and since 2000 I have been shooting a custom sporterized M96 6.5x55 Swede. Now you talk about a sweet round !!!
@@easttexan2933 👍👍yeah I’m soon to be 69 and these days I shoot the .260 Remington a lot. Definitely a lot less recoil
@@YellowHammer26 fine choice.
.260 rem is nice
I've owned several different hunting rifles over the years and I've always come back to a 270 or a 30-06. They're both great "Do all" rifle calibers.
They're not bad for sure
I like the 30-06 Springfield the best
Me too
Good video! I’ve hunted with both calibers and no issues with effectiveness. I’ve reloaded both. My shoulder prefers the .270 and my freezer doesn’t comment. Thx for sharing!
Right on! Godspeed and Good hunting!
I think Jack O'Conner said it best in one of his books, to paraphrase him- "I have three rifles in 270 and three rifles in 30-06 and that's how I feel about that." Although he felt the 30-06 was more versatile.
Thank you for posting your tests. Valuable information.
Thank you for watching. You're right, can't go wrong with either. Good hunting and Godspeed.
More elephants have been killed by 30 06 with heavier bullets than any other caliber so I've heard
I personally hunt with both the 270 and 30-06 I use the 270 for open country for its fast flat trajectory 06 for woodland areas for the
Most people would compare a 130gr 270 to a 150gr 30-06, but the BC and SD are much different. Good on you for choosing the 165, much better comparison. I own both calibers but only hunt whitetail deer so I don't think they will care which one I use!
Very true. Thank you
Excellent comparison. If you want a true apples to apples comparison between two calibers you always get the bullets that are the closest in ballistic coefficients and sectional density.
Thank you. Agreed
I think the real surprise of this video was finding ammo to shoot.
Been saving it up for years
Too funny!! 😏🙂
Go to gun runners in anchorage lol
.270 isn't hard to get.
@@NORTHBROOK1978 nonexistent here
Its always a pleasure. We know people in Ak. actually USE their gear !! Have a blessed summer !!🌲🐟🐧🐾
You too, Godspeed and good hunting.
Thanks for the comparison. Both are great cartridges. I lean toward the 270 primarily due to its flatter trajectory.
I agree only to the terrain you hunt and your position on the terrain. If you are flat shooting across 300 to 500 yards, yes the .270 will be more consistent than the ol’ government workhorse.
You get into the hills, mountains, or any scenario with shooting angles 10 degrees or more, up or downhill, and the flat shooting rifle doesn’t matter.
You have to understand and really “get to know” your rifle in these situations.
You can't go wrong with either round. All things considered including performance and efficiency and economy they both could still be the best rounds for hunting period. That being said I will give the nod to the flatter shooting 270 for my needs here in AZ.
Fair enough! Thanks for watching and the comment. Godspeed and good hunting my friend.
Both are very good rounds can't knock either one but myself personally I like the 270 better
Me too! I commented before I saw this but we agree thay both get it done.
Like your videos. Wondering if you feel gmx or sst is better for hunting or not much difference.
Gmx by far... sst tends to break apart too quickly though people seam to live to argue with me on that
@@AlaskanBallistics thanks for the help
sure thing
I’ve got a J C Higgins model 50 in .270 I’ve had since 1964, I was 18 then, I’m 77 now and don’t hunt anymore, so my son will take it over.
Nice
Impressive results all around for both types of ammunition. The velocity of the .270 was actually what it should have been!
Yes this was good ammunition and loading
Sitting here in Va getting the last of my move lined up, looking forward to getting home to Ak tomorrow. Shipped out about 10,000 rounds of accumulated ammo yesterday! Ready for caribou.
Nice!
Those 10,000 rounds ain’t just for them caribou. Let’s be honest...
The 270 was much faster and destructive a the range you shoot! Looking at the bullet, the 270 would reliability open at much greater distance than its parent case...
270 and cooper bullet are a very good match imo!
Both look great but I would personally take the 270 in this comparison. I've got issues with my neck n shoulder so less recoil is nice lol.
The penetration being virtually the same and the 270 with much less drop along with the less wind drift plus the damage looked more extensive as well with the 270. I believe with the higher speed would cause a larger temporary wound channel which would disrupt more tissue causing more organ damage and bring on a faster kill. With less recoil I believe I'll choose the 270.
That's a great choice
Youre a believer 😅 👍
270 sako is what i use for bigger game elk ,mule deer and black bear i love ho2 flat it shoots and the recoil from it makes follow up shots easy .
Nice! Godspeed and good hunting to you my friend.
One thing that amazes me about the 30 06 is that although the industry standard for the cartridge is capped at 60,000 PSI per Sami Specifications Hornaday has managed to safely squeeze 200 more feet per second out of a 150 grain bullet. 😉
To get over 2900 fps with that long 165 gr GMX out of a 22" barrel is really impressive! GMX bullets because are less dense than lead and this weight for weight against a lead core bullet makes the longers requiring they be seated deeper leaving less room for powder. All combined the performance they are achieving is nothing short of amazing. Its creaping in on the heals of a 300 win mag shot from a 22" barrel. Great job Hornady!
Their superformance loads tend to get really high velocities because of the powder.
It is due to advances in the powders used, and I have noticed it is across the board for other cartridges as well.
I've got a 165 grain trophy bonded tip load for my 30-06 averaging 2970fps. But that's out of a 23.5" barrel. H4350 does the trick.
That's a sweet load
An animal couldn't tell the difference. Both did excellent. Those GMX bullets are impressive.
They are good bullets. Didn't group well out of .270 though
@@AlaskanBallistics I'm sure you could get some good groups with hand loads.
We'll see...
Just for safety, if I am in Alaska, I will opt for the 30'06 or maybe even 300 win mag. I really am against being run down and eaten by large bears.
With these bullets. Either will do
I own a .270 and a .30-06 both. Which one I take depends on where I'm going hunting. Love both of them. Now, if I'm hunting in thick brush, I'll take my .444 marlin.
A great choice
Both look like a great choice for medium game 300 LBS up. I own both rifles, and the 270 is and always will be my go to for North American game
30-06 is better all around and for larger animals. If I could only have one big game rifle 30-06 would be it. 270 is great though
I agree
Yup 30 06. Or 308 in a semi auto .
Nope ! 375 h&h without a doubt.
. 375 ruger is even better
Have you seen the ballistics on both?
The old Jack O’Connor versus Elmer Keith controversy. Lighter and faster versus heavier and slower. Either one will do. Great video… Thanks for your effort.
Thank you sir for watching
That brings back memories, Jack O'Connor/Elmer Keith. I leaned
more toward Elmer, "you can eat right up to the hole with a 44, those fast bullets cause blood shot and tare up the meat". Those were some good day's the O'Connor Keith days 👍
I love the GMX projectiles. I have had great success in my 7mm-08 with them. I currently use Barnes VOR-TX 150 gr. in my .30-06, but I would not hesitate to use the Hornady ammo. My rifle likes the Barnes, so I am sticking with it. Greetings from central Kentucky.
Yeah this .270 doesn't group with the gmx. But the .30-06 does with that and the barnes. Trying barnes LRX in the 270 next as well as handloads
30-06 130 grain TTSX Barnes (26 inch barrel):
3,400 ft/s
3,336 ft-lbs
Nice! 26" barrels are always where it's at.
@AlaskanBallistics The 130 grain load is the most powerful load in the 30-06, the 2nd most powerful load is the Horandy 190 grain CX loads:
2,770 ft/s
3,237 ft-lbs
I’d call that 100% weight retention since the plastic tip weighs about 3 grs.
Close enough for sure!
I own 3 of each love 30-06, 270 both my tikkas shoot 1/2 inch groups with the TTSX 165g 30 Cal and TTSX 140g 270. My Brownings are not as good but 1" groups are common. The Rugers are in the middle with just over 3/4 of a inch groups. Either will kill moose or deer or bears my wife likes the bit less kick of the 270 so guess she has 3 to pick from but the X bolt seems to be her favourite.
270 - all day long-- I'm an old man now- but ive hunted the open west for mule deer & antelope for 40 YRS , and 270 has always been the number 1 choice-- us old timers would just shake our heads and chuckle when we come across the first timers at the processor's with their 7 mags & 300mags and blown up animals-- and now its 6.5 creedmoor & 277 fury 😅 - nothing the 270 can't do as well-- RIP , JACK O'connor
I've taken game with 300 7mm 270 and 30-06.... they all do well if you put a well constructed bullet in the right place.
Really impressive bullets! Perfect uniform mushrooming & decent penetration.
Absolutely good bullets. Thank you for watching
Agree. Very impressive bullet performance.
Love your reviews. This past hunting season I used the 165gr GMX Superformance ammo and couldn’t have found a better bullied/ammo for my Sauer 100 30-06. I was very impressed with the accuracy and performance on game this year. This is now my go to hunting bullet/ammo for all game we have here in Western Canada which includes using as a defence round against grizzlies that I seem to see every year in my forays for sheep, elk and moose.
I have a Sauer 100 30.06. It loves the Hornady rounds lol
Awesome take any game with it?
@@AlaskanBallistics my son took a boar with his Savage Axis using it. I ended using my bow for a boar 🐗 😅
Good hunting to you both
@@AlaskanBallistics shot a whitetail doe and a 5x5 buck. I was very surprised with how both animals reacted to the hit as they dropped on the spot. Now I know all animals react differently and I’ve seen it all my life but it was impressive. I’m wouldn’t hesitate to use 165gr GMX this on elk, moose and bear. Die was at 70yds and buck about 140yds.
I shot a young moose with my 7-08 using 139gr GMX Superformance at about 110yds. It dropped on the spot.
They are Both dam good rifles they will get the job done thats all that matters to me is they bring home the groceries
Very true
I would like to see the 270 Winchester compared to the 270 WSM. The results should be so similar. You would be the perfect one to do this comparison.
I really appreciate the suggestion I am going to have to find somebody that I it's going to have to find somebody that has A270WSM and we're gonna have to fuck USM and we're gonna have to find similar ammo.... It'll probably be next year before I get to it but remind me. Thank you for watching and for the suggestion!
The number one caliber used on the African plains animal is the .270 WINCHESTER. Been there and done it...
Nice! What did you get?
Wildebeests
Nice good eating?
👍
I own both and I've shot deer with them.
The critters can't tell the difference.
Dead is dead.
I do prefer the 270 if distances get longer though.
Cheers
Thanks for the comment and watching brother!
Really impressive looking bullets. I will be looking for these in 243 to give a try.
Great job my friend!
Keep'em coming!
The 80gr .243 is very impressive as well. It's in my 6.5 vs .243 video. Needs a 24" barrel like a lot of .243 loads
If u handload the 80gr gmx is still advaliabe in places
Nice
Locally or online?
@@AlaskanBallistics online . Haven't seen any localy or I would of grabbed them. I found the barns ttsx locally theo. And Remington jsp and Remington jsp bonded. And sirra 60 to 80gr
Nice, that 270 expanded a lot faster than the 30-06, probably because of the extra velocity. The expansion of both rounds was textbook perfect.
Along with considerably less mass.
Great comparison for me as I recently purchased a .270 & own 2 x 30-06 rifles. Dabbling in reloading a bit too, so the near identical performance of the GMX bullets in both calibres gives me good reason to consider them as the go to projectile. I already have a box of GMX bullets in .30 cal, so getting some in .277 now is almost a no brainer. Thx!
They won't open at long distance
Both are wonderful rounds. Thanks for the great video. Living in Florida I don't miss snow.
I bet not. Thank you for c watching. Godspeed
.30-06 for me, second choice would be the .270! I want to build a .338-06, it will shoot a 225 gr. bullet almost as fast as the .30-06 shoots a 180 gr. bullet.
Cool
Midway has .308 Superperformances up right now, so I came here for some feedback. But they use the ELD bullet and not the GMX. So I'm glad I avoided that mistake.
Superformance with eldx? Or we ELD-M?
Much respect for 30-06, but where I hunt in southern Ontario Canada with caliber restrictions during certain seasons the .270 is king. I sold my 06 for .300win mag that paired with my .270win and 12gauge 870 a country boy can survive! Great video, love your channel! Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦🤘
Thanks for watching! Godspeed and good hunting
I started hunting on the 270 and two years later got my 30-06. I’ve dropped every deer on the first shot with my 30-06 but I shoot 180 or 200 grain. I never killed on the first shot with my 270. Of course that’s on the cartridge and what not. I just prefer my 30-06 and that will always be my rifle
Glad you enjoy your .30-06
Both awsome rounds, have had both but run the .270 for 30 plus years
Both are great... bigger, more power, more penetration or lighter recoil, flatter shooting..
Where I hunt, its impossible to shoot further than 150 yards, and that's why I use my 35 Whelen with 225gr buffalo bore. Never failed on deer, bear and moose
That's a good combo for sure
270 all day but I've seen some happy deers drop with 30-06
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Both of those rounds look impressive.
Very Much so. Don't think the caribou would know the difference
I've had both a .30-06 and .270 Win (both in Weatherby Vanguard). I had successful hunts with both. Kept the .30-06 sold the .270 Win.
God blessyou
I’m a fan of both. Why did you choose the 30-‘06? I’m always interested in hearing an honest opinion on rifles.
@@falba1492 The range of bullet weights for .30-06 (especially the higher weight bullets), and I bought a .25-06.
@@jamesbromstead4949 - I appreciate your insight. The 30-‘06 is definitely more flexible with bullet weights. I got rid of my 25-‘06 when I got a 270, go figure lol.
@@falba1492 I had great success with my .270. Ammo is easy to find, Bullet choice is great. It was just so close to my .30-06, it was hard to choose. So I picked the 30 cal. But you can't go wrong with the .270.
I have a Ruger M77 in .270 Win, and a Remington 721 in .30-06. Neither has let me down, ever. Very glad I reload both though....
What loads to you use?
Both are impressive. Here in Louisiana, I'd go with the.270 but if I were going to hunt Alaska, would rather have the 30-06 but .270 most likely would be fine.
Yeah that's a fair point
Had a load for a previous 30-06 with a 165 grain trophy bonded tip that clocked at 2960. Super accurate too. Used h4350, win brass, and win primers.
Nice. We might try that
Email me the load please
I never tested the GMX, but have gotten great results with TTSX. Great test as usual. Have to catch up on your videos been busy.
They're similar bullets. I've found ttsx to be more accurate
I enjoyed the video 👍 I like both of them but I will go with the 30-06 with the GMX because I have both, but after viewing this video now I have to get the 270🦌 Thanks 🇺🇸 GOD BLESS AMERICA, The right to keep and bear arms shall not 🚫 be INFRINGED 👍🇺🇸
Never infringed
Im salivating over that lower rifles' stock !!! WOW......
They both have the same stock
The 270 is a little better on the numbers and penetration because of its speed. The 30-06 has more versatility because of options in bullet weights. Jack O’Connor wasn’t a rookie and knew guns, ballistics and hunting better than anyone and he even picked the .270.
You might want to read more of Jack O'Connor's writing. He chose many rifles and most notably the 7x57. What made the .270 so famous was the invention of affordable scopes by Weaver.
@@russellkeeling9712 I will if you do the same
Jack O'Connor also hunted extenvively with a 30-06 and a 375 H&H. Although he is known and remembered as being a great advocate of the 270 which he shot often, it wasn't at the exclusion of other rounds which he shot as often or more, particularly in Alaska. Gun writers pick a product and run with it. The 270 is a superb round, in my mind it's close to the 7mm Mag with light bullets but the versatility of the 30-06 cannot be discounted. O'Connor used one as much as anyone else.
@@paulhomsy2751 I am absolutely aware that Jack O’Connor did not exclusively hunt with the .270 and I’m also aware that he did for the most part make the .270 famous. I totally agree that the .30-06 is a more versatile round than the .270 as far as bullet weights go which allows the hunting of a little larger game. However if you are hunting deer sized game, you can’t make a animal “more dead” so I would choose the .270 because it’s faster, shoots more flat and has less bullet drop. When it comes to the 7mm rem mag, that round/caliber beats the .30-06 in every single calculation and ballistic category. A more apples to apples comparison would be the 7mm rem mag vs the .300 Win mag. Both are magnum calibers and on a more level playing field.
@Jason Combs i have a video on 7mm Rem Mag vs. .300 Win Mag
Ive got a 30-06 and a 270, and Im not ever selling either!!! Only trouble I have is which one to take Moose hunting in Quebec this October!!!! Awesome video thanks!!
Both. Need a back up rifle in camp
Love these tests. I’ve used 150 grain 30-06 GMX on elk and pronghorn, worked fabulously. Both shots well under 200 yards though, so good velocity and thus bullet expansion.
I’d be curious if the 150 was north of 3000fps and closer to the 270, velocity wise. I think there’s an ideal weight of monolithic for a given caliber and range it’s intended to be used at. You have to get those things screaming if you want reliable expansion past about 400 yards.
I've noticed that hornady discontinued the 150gr superformance gmx in 30-06
Thank you for watching and the comments!
Dang I didn’t know that! I’ve been running off my own supply. Probably didn’t sell enough!
I have had both and think both are outstanding. If you hunt bigger game like moose, bear and elk I’d lean towards 30/06. For deer and pronghorn, 270 is tough to beat.
I chose.270 back in the early 90s when I got my first rifle. I bought a browning bar last year and re visited the old deer camp debate on .270 vs 30-06.... I purchased another .270 because of softer recoil. I shoot American whitetail ammo in it, and it is destructive . I’m liking the gmx results though .... the proof is in the pork shoulders my 30-06 brothers !!! Cant deny terminal ballistics!!!!!
Where I deer hunt in Texas we rarely shoot over 150 yards so either caliber works well. Like many, I prefer the .270 & feel like I shoot that rifle a little better.
Great video- thanks
Thank you for watching
Thanks for the good work. I am looking forward to see what a longer heavier GMX type bullet will do in the newer 6.8 Western
If i can find a nice savage or Remington rifle I'd be real interested in testing it
Thanks Chuck good comparison !
Thank you Doc
Need to see GMX vs TTSX
Well gmx is discontinued but the new hornady cx bullet i plan on b doing like that.
Mono metal bullets are hard to beat when it comes to penetration and weight retention. Though I haven't used the gmx I 've loaded and hunted with barnes tsx and ttsx in several calibers.
I generally hunt with the lrx in all my calibers
The 30.06 is the one that I would choose out of these two cal...
My Fav is my 7mm Rem mag.
Great video Chuck 📹 👍
Me too
No response from Josh lower? I thought he’d fuel his own fire with opinions and general propaganda on this comment about the 7mm mag.
Lol the 7mm Rem Mag is better than the .30-06
This ammo intrigues me probably more than it should. On one hand I see so little use for it, given the amount of power both of these cartridges carry in their normal loads. On the other hand, it boosts power enough to forego buying a magnum rifle for those rare opportunities to hunt game larger and denser than deer. Most of us just don't hunt game bigger than deer. And a lot of us that do get to make that "big trip" don't do it more than a very few times. On those rare trips we probably would be better off with our familiar favorite deer rifle shooting this ammo than going to a new magnum rifle that we have far less trigger time and field experience with. Maybe this ammo is not yet totally understood for purpose beyond just more power.
Just to note this ammo may not expand well below 2000 fps, or so I've been told. The barnes ttsx is better for that and their LRX is superb down to 1500 fps.
But i do agree with your sentiment. I think having the right ammo in a rifle you're familiar with is better than having a 300 win mag you can only afford a few shots
I like the 30-06 more for the wider range of bullet weights. I believe the .270 is a more specialized around and a great one as well. I like 30-06 for its versatility and that’s why I have one.
Couldn't agree more
"Either or" works for me. My experience using both is that they both do pretty much the same thing and get the same end result.
I do believe that homogenous copper bullets are a bit of an equalizer twixt the the twain, though. If someone were to ask me back in the pre-Barnes X bullet days which I'd rather have as an Alaskan rifle, it would have been .30-'06 all the way and I might ask if I could have a .35 Whelen, instead.
But that was then and this is now. I'm very probably going to be shooting homogenous copper bullets in either one. That being the case, I don't think there's a land animal in Alaska that I couldn't kill stone-cold dead with either one.
Might as well enjoy a little less felt recoil and a little flatter trajectory.....
On the other hand, my .30-'06 is a satin-black Trinyte over stainless steel Remington M-700 with the 24" barrel that I sometimes think even God Himself meant for the .30-'06 to be shot out of.....
It's already bought and paid for, the recoil ain't THAT bad, and it shoots flat enough......
Agreed with what you say
You mention the .35 Whelen. My sweet rifle is a .35 Whelen. I sold all my magnum rifles once I got it cuz I don't need them. The .35 Whelen is the most efficient round I have ever loaded for. A 225 grain bullet at 2800 fps is just under 4000 foot pounds of energy at muzzle. I could match that with my 338 but it took at least 10 grains more powder.
Damn right 😂
I have a Browning A-Bolt .270 and hope to soon add a 30/06 to the collection as well! Both are very effective against animals in my home state of Alabama!
Agreed. Hope your browning .270 does better than mine did.
The 270 is all you need in North America 👍
I want bigger for grizzly bear. They can hunt you back. It can be done
Having the one, I don't see a need for the other.
Save your money, let the 30/06 go, my option. You just don't anything stronger than the mighty .270 in North America including Alaska. According to the many ballistic tables, the next caliber above the .270 is the 300 Magnum. My personal experience taking big game will always be bullet placement. I don't ever remember going for a heart shot, they won't stop a Grizzly! Having read a true story where it took five shots to finally drop a Grizzly which nearly killed the shooter, which left me wanting for a much better solution when I read another chilling experience with a large dangerous animal. Turneout the man was using a .270 and he dropped the bear with one shot only. He took careful aim and shot him just below the ear in the neck and I never forgot that. As a young man myself, there after, I never aimed for the heart and never needed more than the one shot.
Ballistics will always tell the capibility of any caliber that you can trust and the .270 is more than enough! I've learned over the years that most of these rounds today are all about the hype to sell the latest caliber, when this .270 caliber has more velocitie and kenetic energy than most. Again, my personal experience and opinion.
Good luck and Good hunting!!
Great ammo. I’ve bought some of both, at $40 a box! But I use Superformance powder on my 30.06 reloads with 150 grain Hornady SST bullets and they are same hole accurate at 100 yards.
Nice. I just wish the SST didn't tear apart so quickly
I have both and they work well. Mine are so close in trajectory that for me it comes down to the rifle. My .30-06 is a winchester xpr with 24" barrel weighing 8.5lbs with a scope. My .270 is a savage lightweight hunter with a 20" barrel and only weighs 7.3lbs scope included. There's no noticeable diffrence in recoil because of the weight difference. So I suppose for hiking type hunts I'd pick the .270 Win.
Ballistically close? What kind of velocity do you achieve with a 180 grain bullet from your .270?
That makes sense. Good hunting
Both are more than adequate within reasonable range. I would lean heavy just because. Both of those rifles are beautiful. Very good. Thank you.
Both are long time proven rounds but to me the the 30-06 has more versatility as there is a larger variety of bullet choices
Agreed
I wouldn't shoot anything bigger than an elk with my 270 and not more than 300 yards too
I agree. I love my 270, but ammo choices are limited. My 30-06 is my woody area gun. I don't carry them as much after two shoulder surgeries. The recoil wasn't as hard on me before the surgeries. But yeah....
@AdublBeatz Load up some 130gr barnes ttsx to a grain below maximum with a slow burning powder in that .30-06. Stop kill anything on the planet, get you about the same speed as a .270 130gr and kick way less
@@AlaskanBallistics 130 grain 30 caliber ?? I thought 150 grains was way light for 30 anything ??
I will put it this way: If you were being charged by an Alaskan brown bear and your only choices were a 130 grain bullet in a .270 Win, or a 165 grain in .30 / 06, which would you choose? Enough said.
. 45-70 430gr hardcast 😁
Great rounds both. I prefer the .270, less recoil, flatter trajectory and usually more tissue damage.
Fair enough. Thanks for watching and the comment. Godspeed brother
Honestly, the only superiority see is the 270 has is trajectory. I'd say it just comes down to druthers.
Put that barnes 130gr in .30-06 it'll go 100+ fps faster and it'll take the .270's higher b.c. several hundred yards to catch up in trajectory.
As usual an excellent video, entertaining and illustrating what I suppose many have in mind. Both results were excellent, depending on where one hunts I'd chose the 30-06 for Alaska. I've shot the Hornady Superformance 300 Win.Mag 165 grains GMX advertised at 3260 fps. My results were 3259, 3261, 3262. and a very tight 1/4 inch clover leaf. Too bad Hornady discontinued this excellent bullet.
Their new CX to replace the GMX bullet is an excellent bullet as well. I think you'll enjoy it too
@@AlaskanBallistics I've not been able to put my hands on them so in the meantime I stocked up on several Barnes 30 and 338 Calibers but I'll try the CX as soon as I can find it. Your test removed all doubts as far as the terminal performance of the Hornadys is concerned. I've also bought a couple of boxes of Nosler E-Tip but haven't shot those yet. I'll keep you posted.
30.06 for me. More versatility in rounds. I can find 30.06 everywhere. I barely notice the recoil with my browning xbolt. I have taken moose and whitetails with my 30.06.
Great choice. Godspeed and good hunting my friend
Great video once again brother. Both would work fine, but I'll always take an '06 over the 270. There's something about the larger frontal area that helps in killing that can't be measured by any means that I know of. I'd like to see this test done between the 06 and 7 Rem Mag.
When I can find or load comparable ammo, I'll see what I can do.
@@AlaskanBallistics Cool. For me personally, I don't care if the bullets match up spec-wise for BC/SD. What interests me most (and maybe most of your viewers) is how the most common weight bullet in each cal matches up ie; 150 or 160 in the 7 mag vs a 165 or 180 in the 06. As long as construction of the bullets are the same, I'd say that that would be a very valid comparison and closer to what one could expect when hunting with both rounds over a wide range of brands of ammo etc. No matter how you do them, I enjoy these videos very much. I used to do a lot of "backyard" experimenting like this back several years. I own rifles in most of these calibers so "my" round is always in the running LOL
Nice
I promise you the animal will not notice the few tenths of an inch frontal area that big heavy hard kicking and obsolete 30/06 produces. The 270 will do everything the 06 does and more and do it better.
@@joshlower1 A few tenths of an inch?!? More like thousandths, and yes, anyone that knows much about ballistics knows frontal area makes a big difference in killing power. No AK guide will recommend a 270 for grizzly or brown bear over a 30-06 unless it is a very young person behind the gun, or a woman, either of which can't handle more recoil than the 270 will provide. With handloads, the 30-06 is superior t the 270 any way you want to slice it.
They are both awesome rounds,. GMX has made them even better.
True. I prefer the barnes most of the time but these are good too
I like both calibers but my go to is the 30-06 love the 180 grain rounds. Nasty on game
Agreed. Which bullet do you use?
@@AlaskanBallistics 180 grain nosler ballistic tips
In my opinion they work great. Thanks for the great videos!! Keep em up 🙂
I'm sure they do on whitetail and such sized animals but for larger I'd want something bonded. But if you can shoot them well out of your rifle, that's the main thing
@@AlaskanBallistics yes sir thanks
Very good comparison. I have both of these rifles. I like both of them. I would be hard pressed to choose between them. I must admit my go-to rifle is my .270 Weatherby Vanguard w/ Leupold rifleman scope 3-9x40mm. It is amazingly accurate and tough as nails. This is my personal favorite go-to rifle. I use Rem corelokt 130 grain ammo. I deliberately chose this ammo because it is a great bullet, shoots incredible in the weatherby and is (was lol) readily available in almost any store in USA.
Go check out my video with the standard deviation on the Remington corelokt... you might change your mind.
And it ain't available here anymore
@@AlaskanBallistics I know, rem is falling apart as a company. Bummer.
I might try Hornady interlock and see how it performs. I really don't want to reload for another caliber. lol
I understand that
I am a .270 guy
To reach their own!
I really like .270 & 30-06, but if could only have 1, it would no doubt be the 30-06, great video
Agreed. Thank you
Great video sir 👍 I’ve been using the 150 grain on my 30/06 and don’t get as much recoil
Good to know... gmx?
The GMX is my favorite bullet for my 300 RUM. It gives you the greatest chance for penetration and not coming apart at higher velocity.
It does do this
Both seem good. As for what is "better", I like 270 for areas with longer shots and 30-06 for closer. I understand the bullet selection based on sectional density. Would be interesting to see this comparison run with "common use" bullet weights. Such as the 130 in the 270 and the 150 in the 30-06.
They discontinued the 150gr gmx 30-06 superformance line according to MidwayUSA
@@AlaskanBallistics Didn't know that. Damn.
Yeah I've got a box of 150s to handload. But the 150gr in .308 diameter has a lower SD and BC and is actually not as good of a comparison
@@AlaskanBallistics I agree that it isnt a "caliber vs caliber" comparison, I see it as a "common weight vs common weight" comparison. Kind of like Pual Harrald does his "test one, closest slug weights I can find; test 2, common use slug weight". I personally like to see matching SD tests and common use tests.
I'll stick with my .270, it has treated me well. I've taken white tail deer, pronghorn and cyote. Shoots very well out to 300 yards. 1973 vintage Remington 700 Bushnell scope, only upgraded was a trigger.
Nothing wrong with that.
Beats Chuke to the punch for first comment, just because I can. 😁
Lol 😆 he's young to be mad
@@AlaskanBallistics I wonder if he noticed.
Lol
I like the looks of that 30 0 6 bullet . But my shoulder chooses the 270 win . I have a vanguard 24 in barrel. Just might switch ammo. To g m x. Looks good.
Just be careful out may not open at low velocities at 300 to 500 yards. Barnes LRX is a little better, but loses its petals more easily. Brown Bear at 100 yards or less, use the hornady GMX. Caribou at 400 yards barnes lrx.
Again, I would remind everyone, that Jack O Connor, Mr 270, said that the 3006 was superior to the 270. That was a quote. Long time ago, still true today. 😀
Truth bomb
I didn't realize a 270 was so close to the 30-06. I have a 270 and a 300 win mag. I always thought the 270 was less than it is. Good to know the facts. Thanks!
I still like the pairing: 270 and 300 WM.
Those two rifles should take care of anything in the world you'd want to hunt with maybe the exception of cape buffalo, rhino and elephant. I need a .300 win mag for the channel.
Great video brother love the comparison don’t fee you can do wrong with either cartridge.
Thank you sir
Ether is great . The 270w is a great all around cartridge in its own respect. but there are alot more options for the 30-06 in bullet weight. In factory ammo (when available) lol . My grandfather hunted out west with a magnum but his 06 always went with him always could count on it to get the job done . And great video thanks.
Thank you for watching. Godspeed and happy hunting
Both are great calibers. Either round will take care of business.
Absolutely
Love my .270 and my aught six I'll keep them both! Good video guys. 👍
Not a bad choice. Godspeed and good hunting