I love my .270 Ruger M77 Mk 2! Have killed 3 Moose & Caribou, over a dozen Elk & several Bear with a single shot to head or heart! One shot, one kill with the .270 x 150gr rounds! Super flat tragectory for accuracy & velocity for knock down power!
My first gun purchase was a browning bolt action in .270 and it’s never disappointed. I didn’t do much research and ended up with the .270 because I wanted a bigger rifle then my uncles .243 and my older brother hid the 30.06 from me and then bought it the same day. Now because I have learned over the years that I don’t get many long distance shots in the woods of Maine, these days I have developed a love for the easier to carry, larger diameter lever action rifles with the .444 Marlin being my current go to most of the time. Just recently found this channel and I am enjoying the informative comparisons I have watched so far.
I’ve hunted with both. Each has its place. According to Jack OConnor, the 3006 is superior in various ways. Personally, I like the 270 for everything smaller than elk. 3006 for everything else. Both great rounds. 😀
Been using .270 since my first rifle, bought back in 1963, a Sako Finnbear topped with a then good scope, a Nikko 4x40, if I remember correctly. Today at age 74, I use a Carl Gustaf 1900 in .270 topped with a Swarovski Z5i 3.5-18x44. I shoot a wide range terrain, open country in Australia and mountain country in New Zealand, not as actively as in the past but guess you would call me a lifelong believer in the .270 calibre. Great video, thanks mate.
I use a 270 bolt action rifle for deer hunting, I have had great results from the 130gr core lock bullets. All of my shots have been around 200 yards, or less. I try to keep my shot placement to the lower neck or high shoulder area. These two shot locations have proven to be clean lethal shots, that drop the animal where it stands.
Great comparison. I purchased a Remington 700 in .30-06 in 1988, while a Junior in high school, as my first center fire rifle. It has served me well, and I still have it. I think both cartridges are outstanding. If I lived west of the Mississippi, I would have probably gotten the.270. I got my son a 7mm-08 a few years ago, and I tend to take it hunting when he is not using it.
Even if you lived west of the Mississippi you would still love your 30-06. I live west of the Mississippi and my choice is a 30-06. I hunt in all conditions, long and short range. The 30-06 never leaves me hanging. The choice of a 7mm-08 was good for your son. I have harvested the two largest elk I ever killed with a 7mm Mauser. The two cartridges are very close in ballistics. As a fact I got my hands on a Ruger M77/270 and had it re-barreled to a .275 Rigby (7mm Mauser). Happy Hunting.
Excellent no BS video...one of the few on You Tube...the .270 will take most anything in North America while the 30.06 will take anything in North America. Both will be point blank up to 300 yards if sighted correctly. As I hunted in an area of North Carolina known for extreamly large black bear, even hunting deer I carried a 30.06 in 180 grain Nosler Partitions.
Can't beat the good old 06! About the most versatile round in the book. Definitely a better elk and moose and bear round just cause it'll shoot alot heavier bullets. That there 270 does shoot Abit flatter and will do anything the 06 will except for the biggest animals. I guess IF you could hit anything anywhere in the eyeball, there ain't a nickels worth of difference.
not to step on toes but the 270 will take all game in existance today, i cant remember the guys name but he used the 270 to take down bull elephants so without question the 270 will take down everything here in north america ive took moose and bear with mine
@@ryanfulton8199 You may be talking about a man named Bell. He was an ivory hunter in the early part of the 20th century but he didn't use a .270 but a .275 Rigby, 7x57.
Great video and no nonsense analysis of these two great cartridges! I’ve hand loaded for my 30’06 Winchester Model 70 Mannlicher barreled rifle and it’s been very accurate with both 150 & 165 gr bullets! I’ve taken deer with it over the years without any issues. I’ve hand loaded the .270 for my sons Remington Model 70 and it’s made several one shot kills on deer. Now my Weatherby 270 magnum is an older one with the a slow barrel twist and absolutely will not shoot the .150 gr bullets at all! In fact the key hole at 25 yards. But it is amazingly accurate and devastating on deer with the 130 bullet! 🎯
Excellent presentation and information. Forty years ago I researched all the hard data. Ballistics, bullets available for the caliber, reloading choices, on these and other cartridges. I bought a 30-06. It's the only rifle I have and I don't need anything else. I've never had to shoot an animal twice with it. It has always worked. If I had chosen a 270 I would have been able to say the exact same thing.
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Years ago I experimented with a lot with different loads, Settled down with the 180 grain Sierra Pro Hunter bullet loaded to an average velocity of 2742 FPS. Unfortunately that bullet has been discontinued, but I got wind of that and was able to purchase a few extras before they went out of stock. Use it for everything, I drew a nearly once in a lifetime limited unit elk tag this year and my old faithful 30-06 will be there with me.
It you are interested in a relevant review read mine in full because my friend and I literally got back from Africa this morning. He had a 30-06 and I had a 270. With my 270, I dropped a zebra at 108 yards with 2 shots (2nd shot was 15 sec later and the first one would have killed it without question quickly). The second animal I shot was an impala at 115 yards and it was an instant drop. The 3rd animal I shot was a blesbok at 108 yards and it was also an instant drop. My friend with the 30-06 also shot the same animals I did plus a gemsbok, springbuck and warthog. Not sure if his exact ranges, but I believe they were plus/minus 5% of mine. Like me, all of his trophies were dropped after 1 round. What I cannot stress enough, regardless of caliber, is practice, practice, practice shooting before you go on a hunt at the range. A well placed shot with a smaller caliber is far more important then a higher caliber off vitals. Another important component is the quality of ammo you’re shooting. My friend and I both had custom made ammo and I feel that is also vital when hunting. Remember…you can spend $300 on a savage rifle or $2k on a Kimber. At the end of the day, the only thing which touches the animal is your bullet. Don’t skimp on the extra $20/box.
I got my 270 Mauser bull barrel in 1974 for $125.00 and since then I killed 9 elk with 9 shots. I know the .'06 caliber well and everything you stated about both rounds is what I found. My preference for the 270 really came down to the lesser recoil allowing me to keep a scope on a target better. They're both excellent rounds.
I used the 130gr accubond and swift scirrocco on everything I hunted (South Africa). Straight through gemsbuck, braking the bone in both fore limbs. Used it on Kudu, black wildebeest, blesbuck, and springbuck.
Jonathan, you mind sharing your load data for the 130 grain Scirocco? I’ve wanted to load that that for a while now. Btw, have you tried the 129 gr. Barnes LRX. That’s one hell of a bone busting bullet behind 60.5 grains of H4831SC, 215M primer and Nosler brass. I get 3,080 ft/sec MV in my Tikka.
My late dad left me with a 270 Remington 700 when I was 13 I used it until last year the barrel had a bubble so I left it with my gun smith but it took time for him to take off the barrel so hunting season came and my brother sold me a brand new 270 Remington 700 that he had sitting in a box so I bought it off him and been knocking moose n elk down and few months ago my gun smith retired and gave me all my gun parts but did manage to take off the barrel so I wondering what to do with it do until I found a custom barrel maker in my area and I took it to him and he told me why have 2 270’s and my late dads 270 is now a 30-06
I know Jack O'Conner wrote about the .270 but he wrote of many other calibers. I have learned the .270 didn't really become popular until Weaver produced the "K" series of rifle scopes. These were the first scopes to be affordable by the average consumer. The K series scopes were quite excellent, you are a lucky hunter if you still have an original one.
I was given a 270 from my dad and it’s my only hunting rifle. I love it. Ruger m77. My brother bought a 30-06 and I wanted to see which was better, looks like my old school wins from the sounds of it.
The one rifle I always grab when I go hunting is my 30-06. I have shot Springbok and big Blue Wildebees bulls on the same hunt. It is great for everything we have in South Africa except the Big 5. I run a 165gr Accubond at 2850fps and just shot a monster Golden Wildebees bull at 270m. One shot in the boiler room, the bull only went about 30m. It also destroyed a Gemsbuck's head on the same hunt at around 50m. I have nothing against a 270 and have shot a lot of animals with it but my 30-06 remains my absolute favourite on larger game.
Excellent! The AccuBond is a great bullet and I'm not at all surprised to hear how it has performed for you with the wildebeest and gemsbok. I agree: I'd go with the 30-06 personally over the 270 for African plains game.
@@toddjohnson271 270 win. is an amazing round. I have no gripes about a 270. My 4 favorites are the 270, 308, 30-06, 7mm. If I could only have 1 rifle, I'd have a 30-06.
I think it’s the ease of shooting. Less recoil and flatter trajectory with still enough energy to do the job. I went for the 30-06 myself just because of that extra energy downrange and the versatility. After owning and shooting it I tend to use lighter weight bullets for hunting and the .270 would probably have done just fine.
30-06 is my go to... nostalgia mostly, thanks opa!! more than a few moose... nothing wrong with a 270, they fit similar rolls for the average hunter...
The headline asks which is best for me. My answer is 30-06. I don't say that because I believe the 06 is better than the 270 I say that because my needs are better filled with the 06 and the many bullet weights available and also the size of the game I shoot. In my hunting experience the range is not a deciding factor of which I choose.
Great video. Here’s my humble opinion; 270 with a 140 or 130 Accubond and a 30-06 with a 165 Accubond. The first for antelope and mulies and the second for anything in the lower 48. Again, just my humble opinion.
My experience with the .270 Winchester spans 60 years since age ten. From the Yukon(moose, grizzly, caribou) to Africa using 130gr-140gr bullets, most kills were one shot kills and very quick death. There were a lot bang and dead on the spot shots. The moose and grizzly were one shot kills and the caribou required two as I shot a wee bit far back as he was running with the second shot finished him In Africa I killed thirteen animals from tiny dik dik to kudu to eland. The water buk was shot too low and a second shot finished him after a long tracking job. NO MATTER THE CALIBER OF BULLET USED, SHOT PLACEMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE REQUIRED GOAL Of THE HUNTER. My .270 bullet placement trumped other hunters in camp who were flinching from recoil using .375 H&H up to .416 Remington and Rigby rifles. The late Finn Aagaard, of Kenya and a professional, told us in the pages of Handloader and Rifle Magiznes that he hand seen more animals killed with a .270 Win. than any other rifle caliber Why? LOW recoil, very fast bullet speed equaled very precise bullet placement which quick, clean, kills. Jack O'Connor told us that bullet placement is what kills animals, NOT FOOT POUNDS of ENERGY. Finn Aagaard told us that killing power is a matter of biology, not a mathematical formula. He said killing power is 90 per cent bullet placement and 10 per cent is the unknown. I AGREE! How does the the 30-06 figure into all of this. Well... The 30-06 can do everything the .270 will on trajectory on one knows how to use his scope and click up the scope to the require distances he is shooting at. Don't forget windage and other stuff at long distances.
My hunting is basically all white tail deer. I have both the 30-06 and 270 in the Model 700 rifle. My Dad got me the 30-06 back in 1964. I got the 270 for my grandson back in 2017. Primarily due to the lighter recoil. Both are in pristine condition and are very well maintained. They both perform flawlessly. If I had to purchase another deer rifle for myself I think I’d go with the 30-06 again. I just love that caliber. It’s served me very well since 1964. From hunting woodchucks to whitetail. Although I’m sure the 270 would have done just as well too.
Why is it interesting? Manufacturers will usually label the cartridge family that the magazine suits. And 270/30-06 are identical in terms of magazine dimension requirements. Just like 308/7mm-08/6.5cm/243 etc
I've shot over 80 big game animals with a combo of 270win, 270wsm and 7mm mag without any noticeable difference. 140g to 160g accubond. Phenomenal performance.
I love both but my attitude is if you like varmint coyote hunting more than deer hunting go with 270. The 270 is terrific on coyotes and wood chuck. The 270 has that splat factor that dose tremendous tissue damage with the common 130gr bullet. I like the 30-06 with the 180gr bullet with lower velocity with more penitration for deer size game and up.
I have both of these calibers in my collection and use both of them. The 270 seems to be the one I grab most often if I need a scoped rifle. It is super accurate and flat shooting. I am using 130 grain jsp bullets for deer and hogs to great effect. If I go on a multi day trip I will pack a backup rifle. My personal choice is to not bring a 30-06 if using 270. The ammo is too similar and ammo mix-ups are too easy.
Both great cartridges but my vote is definitely for the .270 and that's coming from lots of hunting, shooting, and reloading for both the .270 just fly's flatter and a whitetail deer or similar size game will not know the difference of what hit it period.
Very well done Sir. Tells me a lot about my next hunting rifle purchase. I have a Ruger M77 270 I’ve hunted with for many years but looking for something new.
I've used both for 5 decades for over probably 100 game head of whitetails. I've used primarily the 270, 30-06, and the 308. The 270 win 130 gr. is hard to beat if your just on whitetails, it's quick hard hitting poison. That being said, the 30-06 with the 150-165 grain allows for a greater margin of error, if a shot is pulled slightly off the mark and your bullet hits bone. .30-06 for the win here if pressed.
Would it depend on bone hit? I have put .270 straight through shoulder blade through and through, granted this was 145gr ELX hornady at about 115 yards, so pretty close as far as range goes.
I have done the same except with mule deer and elk. I never had a bullet from either caliber stop inside the animal. I have however had a bullet from a 7mm mag. stop upon hitting a front shoulder and then a long chase ensued. I no longer have a 7mm mag.
I have both and the 7mm-magnum.When I start to hunt, it's fun.Which 1 do I use most.I have to say 06,then after a few days it's 270.Then 7m mag can't help but use it too.I love these 3
Really well done. I’m not a hunter, so all of these rifle cartridges blue together for me. This was a great, no-nonsense explanation of the history and merits of both. Very much appreciated! Subscribed.
Ok but... My 30 06 loves to shoot the 220 gr at 2400 ft/sec. I ponder if there is anything in North America that can handle (not penetrating) that within 200 yards? (1870 ft/sec and 1700 ft/lbs energy at 200 y) Thoughts??
I've never owned a .270 and have always been a 30 cal fan. However, with all this hoopla about a 6.5 Grendel, theres a reason why so many law enforcement sharpshooters (not snipers) still use 270's and for all the reasons you stated Sir. Well done! And very well researched. I'd run a .270 up against a 6.5 Grendel in the hands of an expirt anyday. Gary from NW Montana.
I have both, and enjoy them. If I had to give up all but one rifle, I'd keep my older Winchester Model 70 in .30-06. It has the BOSS system installed on it, so I can sort of tune the barrel to different loads. It's the most consistent shooting rifle I've ever owned.
Just bought an all black $800 .270 rifle and I feel it's no different than my 30/06. I still like my $1600 Winchester 300magnum better but only because of the physical feel of the gun itself. It has a nice lightweight polished wood trim with a short stock and it fits perfectly. Just don't like how it kicks much harder than my 3.5" 12ga slugs because the gun is so light. I hunt deer, hogs, elk, and black bear, no more than 100 yards. Still new to hunting and the 300mag is my 1st rifle. I really want to hunt moose next. For 300mag I use federal soft point 180 and sometimes 220 grain.
At 100 yards...my 35 Remington can do all that. With less stress to the shoulder. No need for these calibers at short range....but there are no wrong answers where 270 or 30-06 are concerned.
Equally good. Base your decision on the best gun you can afford at the time you need it. And that includes other calibers like .308, 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, etc. But also consider availability and price of ammo. I do see 30-06 and .308 more than anything else (pre-shortages).
A few months ago I got my hands on a Ruger M77/270. I took it straight to my gun smith and had a new Shilen barrel installed in 275 Rigby. I don't have a use for a .270 and at this time there is no ammo and no dies. I prefer the 275 anyway.
I screwed up and posted too soon and I'm finishing my LONG winded comment Please be patient with me dear readers. Because of the heaver bullets of 180-200 and 220 grains I would choose the 30-06 if I should be forced to use only one rifle for the rest of my lifetime. However, local hunters in Africa have killed elephants with .270's when forced to because they had no other rifle. They used solid bullets not commonly available here in the U.S...??? WOW! Jack O'Connor admitted the 30-06 was more versatile than the .270.However, don't underestimate the .270. as it has surprised many a doubter as to just have wicked and vicious it can be on very large animals from grissly bear to lions to o 2500 lb eland. Same for the 30-06. Still, those big heavy bullets are comforting.
I have a .308 which will cover elk and moose, I’ve got a 223 for varmints and coyotes, and soon I’ll be getting a model 70 in 270 for all medium-sized game.
I Own one Highpower rifle a Remington model 700 ADL wood and steel model chambered in the 270 Winchester, its 23 years old now and I have put down many mule deer and 3 spike Elk but in over 20 years of hunting the longest shot was 300 meters give or take my rifle is a tack driver. But anything over 300 yards I would move in closer to the game if possible to make a effective kill shot but that's me I can remember when 300 yards was considered way out there.
The cartridges look so similar(especially in the dark preping). With my sons taking 30-06 and me w 270, I have marked all bullets w Sharpie. I swear you could not see difference w/naked eye..
While both are great calibers. I find a preference for short actions, due to not being a natural lefty. I tend to short stroke a long action left hand bolt. Making me lean towards 308 and 270 WSM. In a single shot or pump action it is less of a concern. Unfortunately the pump actions are harder to find these days.
When I went to buy a real deer rifle in my 20s I was all set on a .243 u til I had the thought that I should probably get a more versatile rifle as my first one since it might be my main tool for a while. Then the 30-06 won out for ammo availability (as in variety ) and a slight edge as a .308 caliber in case I wanted to hunt elk someday. My reading seemed to indicate that might help and looking at the ballistic charts the heavy bullets seemed to carry a lot of energy down range
You mean there are other calibers than the 30-06!?! I have an old Brazilian Mauser with the Germany stamp on the end of the barrel. Got it for my 17th birthday, I'll be 35 in June and it is still hands down the best rifle I've ever fired.
Both bullets are great choices and will kill a deer exceptionally well. However when it came time to choose one for my new hunting rifle I went with the 3006. For a number of reasons like ammo availability, more bullet diversity and slightly higher rifle barrel life to name a few.
The fact is these cartridges have more in common than they differ. They're the same 3.340" OAL. They have similar powder charge weights. They even have a little overlap in bullet weights. They have near identical energy at 200 yards, and have similar energy across the 1-400 yard envelope. People claim .30-06 has more recoil than .270 Win, but there's not as much difference as folks make out. In a blind test using the most common medium game loadings most of us probably wouldn't be able to tell a difference (and I can mathematically prove that). They perform basically the same function and have near identical effects on game. The '06 due to a wider bullet selection can lend itself better to larger game like moose and bear but .270 can and has been used on plenty of big critters too. So which is the best for **You** dear reader? It doesn't matter, just get the one that assuages your confirmation bias the most.
first person to speak truth on the 270 i love the info provided keep up the good work. hope to hear about the guy that was in africa hunting and taking down elephants with his 270 in the future for all the guys that call the 270 a glorified squirrel gun lol
Another company, Winchester, wanted to market a cartridge and they did. They made it to have a slight edge over the 06. Is it better? Jack O’Connor couldn’t decide.
New hunter here. I’ve been trying to decide b/w the .270 win, 30-06, and 7mm rem mag. Buying an entry level hunting rifle but idk which to chamber it in.I’ll be hunting whitetail primarily but later bigger game hopefully all sub 300yds. Any suggestions?
This is my similar dilemma. But I have narrowed it down to .270 or 30-06 and eliminated the 7mm. I have come to conclude that as a newbie to hunting, the 30-06 will best suit my needs for the mean time. I just based it through the vast amount of ammunition variation. It kicks a litle bit harder though but I am not going to use it as a plinker, that is what an AR is for. But for whatever you decide, I think you are not going to make a mistake. I was just lucky that I was able to try both calibers with matching rifles from a friend who has amassed collections.
Not a question of what’s good for me, it’s a question of what l want based on how well l’m sold on the idea of which is a better cartridge. Companies are always finding new ways to sell a product. Sometimes they win sometimes they lose. The 270 won and lots of people use it, but many still use the .30-06 too. Recoil? I bought a 270 for that reason and that reason alone. Later l realized l can down load the 06. Trajectory? Please….. you have plenty of room for error with either cartridge on big game.
Only shooting deer well inside of 200 (usually 50), either one is more than plenty. I don’t know a ton about exotic stuff like elk, but wouldn’t either one do just fine?
I grew up with the 30-06. Don't get me wrong we had shitloads are rifles with that was the bolt action rifle that was the hunting rifle that was the long-distance target rifle. And quite honestly... Having both that and the 270... You get a little more speed out of the 270 which has it remaining a little flattered and it is slightly a little more generally speaking aerodynamic. But honestly regarding the wound that gets left... You honestly going to be able to tell the difference between the two up close? No you're not. And honestly as long as you land that bullet where it needs to be it's not going to make a difference which one you use. Because both of them are going to fuck up and destroy whatever they hit. Honestly I believe that the 270 just gives you a slight flatter trajectory with a very very slight advantage in velocity. The 06 is a little harder hitting but not by much it's almost immeasurable to be honest. but that's just my opinion based off of my personal experiences. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong that's just my opinion. You use whatever works for you. I have a buddy of mine that swears by the 308 he will not hunt with anything but a 308 and it's effective for him he has dropped some of the largest game in North America year after year with a 308. That's what works for him. I prefer the 06 myself. At any rate always be safe know it's behind your target know how to handle your weapon and stay safe out there, keep carrying and God bless 🙏 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Got all 3,don't know what to use on 1st day of buc every year cause they are all perfect cal.got em on 308,270,so I guess I will have to try my ot 6 to complete my goal to get em on all 3.
.270 is just better. It's faster, flatter shooting, has a way better BC, isn't effected by wind as much as .30-06, and carries more energy, especially at longer range. 30-06 is great. I love the cartridge, but .270 takes it in every category. Speed, drop, drift and energy - .270 does it all better.
@@PotatoeJoe69 I think what you meant to say is the 30-06 is just a little too much for my shoulder. That's what everyone REALLY means when they have anything negative to say about the greatest caliber ever invented.
The .280 Remington is the one that’s best for me . I’ve owned and hunted with all three …. The .280 Remington is the only one that still remains in my possession from those three . Best performer hands down !
I know this history quite well. So to sum it all up. There was a lot of evidence that a necked down 30-06 that approximated 7mm diameter would have all the benefits of a 30-06 with somewhat longer range and flatter trajectory. This has been in dispute for many years. Only you can be the judge of who was right.
So "typical" .270 is an underpowered, 130 grain cartridge at 3075 instead of 3160 fps. I prefer to compare cartridges using the same bullet weight, or at least some common denominator. If factories loaded the .270 Winchester to its original power, including Winchester, the cartridge would have a lot better reputation with new shooters. Still, some people just want to knock stuff that isn't theirs. I use 150 grains for the .270 Win because it's ballistically superior to the .30-06 when properly loaded.
I'm not sure why ammo companies throttled the 270 down to around 3,060fps (or thereabouts) with a 130gr bullet, but they did. Since that is the most common load for the cartridge, that's what I used in this test. Same thing with the 30-06 loads. Of course, handloaders can play with things around the edges, but this video is more of a comparison of typical performance of both cartridges with factory loads. Thanks for the comment!
I love my 270's for everything ❤ and you truly don't need anything bigger than a 30/06 . Both calibers are fantastic for hunting.
I love my .270 Ruger M77 Mk 2! Have killed 3 Moose & Caribou, over a dozen Elk & several Bear with a single shot to head or heart! One shot, one kill with the .270 x 150gr rounds! Super flat tragectory for accuracy & velocity for knock down power!
My first gun purchase was a browning bolt action in .270 and it’s never disappointed. I didn’t do much research and ended up with the .270 because I wanted a bigger rifle then my uncles .243 and my older brother hid the 30.06 from me and then bought it the same day. Now because I have learned over the years that I don’t get many long distance shots in the woods of Maine, these days I have developed a love for the easier to carry, larger diameter lever action rifles with the .444 Marlin being my current go to most of the time. Just recently found this channel and I am enjoying the informative comparisons I have watched so far.
I’ve hunted with both. Each has its place. According to Jack OConnor, the 3006 is superior in various ways. Personally, I like the 270 for everything smaller than elk. 3006 for everything else. Both great rounds. 😀
Been using .270 since my first rifle, bought back in 1963, a Sako Finnbear topped with a then good scope, a Nikko 4x40, if I remember correctly. Today at age 74, I use a Carl Gustaf 1900 in .270 topped with a Swarovski Z5i 3.5-18x44. I shoot a wide range terrain, open country in Australia and mountain country in New Zealand, not as actively as in the past but guess you would call me a lifelong believer in the .270 calibre. Great video, thanks mate.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love my 1992 ruger m77 rs 270 and 150 grain nosler partitions...never failed me
That's a deadly rifle/ammo load on all manner of big game for sure!
I use a 270 bolt action rifle for deer hunting, I have had great results from the 130gr core lock bullets.
All of my shots have been around 200 yards, or less.
I try to keep my shot placement to the lower neck or high shoulder area.
These two shot locations have proven to be clean lethal shots, that drop the animal where it stands.
Great comparison. I purchased a Remington 700 in .30-06 in 1988, while a Junior in high school, as my first center fire rifle. It has served me well, and I still have it. I think both cartridges are outstanding. If I lived west of the Mississippi, I would have probably gotten the.270. I got my son a 7mm-08 a few years ago, and I tend to take it hunting when he is not using it.
7mm08 great cartridge 120 to 160 for little varmints and elk
Even if you lived west of the Mississippi you would still love your 30-06. I live west of the Mississippi and my choice is a 30-06. I hunt in all conditions, long and short range. The 30-06 never leaves me hanging. The choice of a 7mm-08 was good for your son. I have harvested the two largest elk I ever killed with a 7mm Mauser. The two cartridges are very close in ballistics. As a fact I got my hands on a Ruger M77/270 and had it re-barreled to a .275 Rigby (7mm Mauser). Happy Hunting.
Excellent no BS video...one of the few on You Tube...the .270 will take most anything in North America while the 30.06 will take anything in North America. Both will be point blank up to 300 yards if sighted correctly. As I hunted in an area of North Carolina known for extreamly large black bear, even hunting deer I carried a 30.06 in 180 grain Nosler Partitions.
Glad you enjoyed it! That 180gr 30-06 Partition load is one of my favorites.
Can't beat the good old 06! About the most versatile round in the book. Definitely a better elk and moose and bear round just cause it'll shoot alot heavier bullets. That there 270 does shoot Abit flatter and will do anything the 06 will except for the biggest animals. I guess IF you could hit anything anywhere in the eyeball, there ain't a nickels worth of difference.
not to step on toes but the 270 will take all game in existance today, i cant remember the guys name but he used the 270 to take down bull elephants so without question the 270 will take down everything here in north america ive took moose and bear with mine
@@ryanfulton8199 You may be talking about a man named Bell. He was an ivory hunter in the early part of the 20th century but he didn't use a .270 but a .275 Rigby, 7x57.
Great video and no nonsense analysis of these two great cartridges! I’ve hand loaded for my 30’06 Winchester Model 70 Mannlicher barreled rifle and it’s been very accurate with both 150 & 165 gr bullets! I’ve taken deer with it over the years without any issues. I’ve hand loaded the .270 for my sons Remington Model 70 and it’s made several one shot kills on deer. Now my Weatherby 270 magnum is an older one with the a slow barrel twist and absolutely will not shoot the .150 gr bullets at all! In fact the key hole at 25 yards. But it is amazingly accurate and devastating on deer with the 130 bullet! 🎯
Excellent presentation and information. Forty years ago I researched all the hard data. Ballistics, bullets available for the caliber, reloading choices, on these and other cartridges. I bought a 30-06. It's the only rifle I have and I don't need anything else. I've never had to shoot an animal twice with it. It has always worked. If I had chosen a 270 I would have been able to say the exact same thing.
Glad you enjoyed the video! I think you made a great choice with the 30-06. What loads do you primarily use to hunt with it?
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Years ago I experimented with a lot with different loads, Settled down with the 180 grain Sierra Pro Hunter bullet loaded to an average velocity of 2742 FPS. Unfortunately that bullet has been discontinued, but I got wind of that and was able to purchase a few extras before they went out of stock. Use it for everything, I drew a nearly once in a lifetime limited unit elk tag this year and my old faithful 30-06 will be there with me.
Good deal! What state will you be hunting elk in?
It you are interested in a relevant review read mine in full because my friend and I literally got back from Africa this morning. He had a 30-06 and I had a 270. With my 270, I dropped a zebra at 108 yards with 2 shots (2nd shot was 15 sec later and the first one would have killed it without question quickly). The second animal I shot was an impala at 115 yards and it was an instant drop. The 3rd animal I shot was a blesbok at 108 yards and it was also an instant drop. My friend with the 30-06 also shot the same animals I did plus a gemsbok, springbuck and warthog. Not sure if his exact ranges, but I believe they were plus/minus 5% of mine. Like me, all of his trophies were dropped after 1 round.
What I cannot stress enough, regardless of caliber, is practice, practice, practice shooting before you go on a hunt at the range. A well placed shot with a smaller caliber is far more important then a higher caliber off vitals.
Another important component is the quality of ammo you’re shooting. My friend and I both had custom made ammo and I feel that is also vital when hunting. Remember…you can spend $300 on a savage rifle or $2k on a Kimber. At the end of the day, the only thing which touches the animal is your bullet. Don’t skimp on the extra $20/box.
I got my 270 Mauser bull barrel in 1974 for $125.00 and since then I killed 9 elk with 9 shots. I know the .'06 caliber well and everything you stated about both rounds is what I found. My preference for the 270 really came down to the lesser recoil allowing me to keep a scope on a target better. They're both excellent rounds.
What ammo did you use on those elk with your 270?
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog 130 grain boat tails mostly, some 110 grain rounds also. Brand wise, mostly Federal, some Remington and some Winchester.
I would think a 150 Partition would be more in line for Elk
@Louis Kiser he clearly felt differently with a record of 9 for 9.
I used the 130gr accubond and swift scirrocco on everything I hunted (South Africa).
Straight through gemsbuck, braking the bone in both fore limbs. Used it on Kudu, black wildebeest, blesbuck, and springbuck.
Just shows what you can do with a good bullet like the Scirocco!
Jonathan, you mind sharing your load data for the 130 grain Scirocco? I’ve wanted to load that that for a while now. Btw, have you tried the 129 gr. Barnes LRX. That’s one hell of a bone busting bullet behind 60.5 grains of H4831SC, 215M primer and Nosler brass. I get 3,080 ft/sec MV in my Tikka.
My late dad left me with a 270 Remington 700 when I was 13 I used it until last year the barrel had a bubble so I left it with my gun smith but it took time for him to take off the barrel so hunting season came and my brother sold me a brand new 270 Remington 700 that he had sitting in a box so I bought it off him and been knocking moose n elk down and few months ago my gun smith retired and gave me all my gun parts but did manage to take off the barrel so I wondering what to do with it do until I found a custom barrel maker in my area and I took it to him and he told me why have 2 270’s and my late dads 270 is now a 30-06
One of the best head to head reviews I’ve seen. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
I know Jack O'Conner wrote about the .270 but he wrote of many other calibers. I have learned the .270 didn't really become popular until Weaver produced the "K" series of rifle scopes. These were the first scopes to be affordable by the average consumer. The K series scopes were quite excellent, you are a lucky hunter if you still have an original one.
I was given a 270 from my dad and it’s my only hunting rifle. I love it. Ruger m77. My brother bought a 30-06 and I wanted to see which was better, looks like my old school wins from the sounds of it.
The one rifle I always grab when I go hunting is my 30-06. I have shot Springbok and big Blue Wildebees bulls on the same hunt. It is great for everything we have in South Africa except the Big 5.
I run a 165gr Accubond at 2850fps and just shot a monster Golden Wildebees bull at 270m. One shot in the boiler room, the bull only went about 30m. It also destroyed a Gemsbuck's head on the same hunt at around 50m.
I have nothing against a 270 and have shot a lot of animals with it but my 30-06 remains my absolute favourite on larger game.
Excellent! The AccuBond is a great bullet and I'm not at all surprised to hear how it has performed for you with the wildebeest and gemsbok. I agree: I'd go with the 30-06 personally over the 270 for African plains game.
30-06 is the most versatile rifle cartridge ever produced. 55 grain - 220 grain
Those are the facts....like it, or not. Must be something with the 270 though....people love it.
@@toddjohnson271 270 win. is an amazing round. I have no gripes about a 270. My 4 favorites are the 270, 308, 30-06, 7mm. If I could only have 1 rifle, I'd have a 30-06.
I think it’s the ease of shooting. Less recoil and flatter trajectory with still enough energy to do the job. I went for the 30-06 myself just because of that extra energy downrange and the versatility. After owning and shooting it I tend to use lighter weight bullets for hunting and the .270 would probably have done just fine.
30-06 is my go to... nostalgia mostly, thanks opa!! more than a few moose... nothing wrong with a 270, they fit similar rolls for the average hunter...
The headline asks which is best for me. My answer is 30-06. I don't say that because I believe the 06 is better than the 270 I say that because my needs are better filled with the 06 and the many bullet weights available and also the size of the game I shoot. In my hunting experience the range is not a deciding factor of which I choose.
The 270 Win. is perfect for Alabama whitetails. We have cutovers and pipelines so long shots are often taken.
Great video. Here’s my humble opinion; 270 with a 140 or 130 Accubond and a 30-06 with a 165 Accubond. The first for antelope and mulies and the second for anything in the lower 48. Again, just my humble opinion.
I'd personally lean towards a 180gr bullet for the 30-06 for the bigger stuff, but I'd say we're pretty much in agreement otherwise
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Agree.
Then you don't need a 270? Just a 30-06
30.06 in 180 grain is perfect for Black Bear and Big Horn but the way I see it, get one of each, they are both fun and have so many platforms.
My experience with the .270 Winchester spans 60 years since age ten. From the Yukon(moose, grizzly, caribou) to Africa using 130gr-140gr bullets, most kills were one shot kills and very quick death. There were a lot bang and dead on the spot shots. The moose and grizzly were one shot kills and the caribou required two as I shot a wee bit far back as he was running with the second shot finished him
In Africa I killed thirteen animals from tiny dik dik to kudu to eland. The water buk was shot too low and a second shot finished him after a long tracking job. NO MATTER THE CALIBER OF BULLET USED, SHOT PLACEMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE REQUIRED GOAL Of THE HUNTER. My
.270 bullet placement trumped other hunters in camp who were flinching from recoil using .375 H&H up to .416 Remington and Rigby rifles. The late Finn Aagaard, of Kenya and a professional, told us in the pages of Handloader and Rifle Magiznes that he hand seen more animals killed with a .270 Win. than any other rifle caliber
Why? LOW recoil, very fast bullet speed equaled very precise bullet placement which quick, clean, kills. Jack O'Connor told us that bullet placement is what kills animals, NOT FOOT POUNDS of ENERGY. Finn Aagaard told us that killing power is a matter of biology, not a mathematical formula. He said killing power is 90 per cent bullet placement and 10 per cent is the unknown. I AGREE! How does the the 30-06 figure into all of this. Well... The 30-06 can
do everything the .270 will on trajectory on one knows how to use his scope and click up the scope to the require distances he is shooting at. Don't forget windage and other stuff at long distances.
My hunting is basically all white tail deer. I have both the 30-06 and 270 in the Model 700 rifle. My Dad got me the 30-06 back in 1964. I got the 270 for my grandson back in 2017. Primarily due to the lighter recoil. Both are in pristine condition and are
very well maintained. They both perform flawlessly. If I had to purchase another deer rifle for myself I think I’d go with the 30-06 again. I just love that caliber. It’s served me very well since 1964. From hunting woodchucks to whitetail. Although I’m sure the 270 would have done just as well too.
Both are very good I have Both the 30-06 just fells like it works better.
I have a Mossberg model 1550 in 270 and the magazines are marked "270 / 30.06". I found that interesting
Why is it interesting? Manufacturers will usually label the cartridge family that the magazine suits. And 270/30-06 are identical in terms of magazine dimension requirements. Just like 308/7mm-08/6.5cm/243 etc
I've shot over 80 big game animals with a combo of 270win, 270wsm and 7mm mag without any noticeable difference. 140g to 160g accubond. Phenomenal performance.
I love both but my attitude is if you like varmint coyote hunting more than deer hunting go with 270. The 270 is terrific on coyotes and wood chuck. The 270 has that splat factor that dose tremendous tissue damage with the common 130gr bullet. I like the 30-06 with the 180gr bullet with lower velocity with more penitration for deer size game and up.
30-06 can be loaded super low....in fact, I think the 06 has the most loadings available.
270 on coyote talk about overkill unless your shooting them 700 yards out 223 243 would do just fine
I have both of these calibers in my collection and use both of them. The 270 seems to be the one I grab most often if I need a scoped rifle. It is super accurate and flat shooting. I am using 130 grain jsp bullets for deer and hogs to great effect.
If I go on a multi day trip I will pack a backup rifle. My personal choice is to not bring a 30-06 if using 270. The ammo is too similar and ammo mix-ups are too easy.
Both great cartridges but my vote is definitely for the .270 and that's coming from lots of hunting, shooting, and reloading for both the .270 just fly's flatter and a whitetail deer or similar size game will not know the difference of what hit it period.
I just bought a Browning 30-06 ab3 last week with a vortex scope I’m so excited to try it out . Phenomenal video. Cheers 🇨🇦
Glad you enjoyed it. Have fun with your new rifle!
Very well done Sir. Tells me a lot about my next hunting rifle purchase. I have a Ruger M77 270 I’ve hunted with for many years but looking for something new.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
This was so easy on the ears!!! Great content. Definitely subscribing.
Awesome! Thank you!
I've used both for 5 decades for over probably 100 game head of whitetails.
I've used primarily the 270, 30-06, and the 308.
The 270 win 130 gr. is hard to beat if your just on whitetails, it's quick hard hitting poison.
That being said, the 30-06 with the 150-165 grain allows for a greater margin of error, if a shot is pulled slightly off the mark and your bullet hits bone.
.30-06 for the win here if pressed.
Would it depend on bone hit? I have put .270 straight through shoulder blade through and through, granted this was 145gr ELX hornady at about 115 yards, so pretty close as far as range goes.
I have done the same except with mule deer and elk. I never had a bullet from either caliber stop inside the animal. I have however had a bullet from a 7mm mag. stop upon hitting a front shoulder and then a long chase ensued. I no longer have a 7mm mag.
What kind of bullet was that you had stop from your 7mm mag? And what did you shoot with it?
I love an honest comparison. Both are amazing cartridges!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I'm glad you made it enjoyable without silly bias or other nonsense. Thanks
I have both and the 7mm-magnum.When I start to hunt, it's fun.Which 1 do I use most.I have to say 06,then after a few days it's 270.Then 7m mag can't help but use it too.I love these 3
Really well done. I’m not a hunter, so all of these rifle cartridges blue together for me. This was a great, no-nonsense explanation of the history and merits of both. Very much appreciated! Subscribed.
Well researched! Please also do a video comparison of the 270 vs 7mm-08
Glad you enjoyed it! That's a very good idea w the 270 vs 7mm-08!
Ok but... My 30 06 loves to shoot the 220 gr
at 2400 ft/sec. I ponder if there is anything in North America that can handle (not penetrating) that within 200 yards? (1870 ft/sec and 1700 ft/lbs energy at 200 y)
Thoughts??
That's a great load for hunting darn near anything in North America inside 200 yards.
I've never owned a .270 and have always been a 30 cal fan. However, with all this hoopla about a 6.5 Grendel, theres a reason why so many law enforcement sharpshooters (not snipers) still use 270's and for all the reasons you stated Sir. Well done! And very well researched. I'd run a .270 up against a 6.5 Grendel in the hands of an expirt anyday. Gary from NW Montana.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have both, and enjoy them. If I had to give up all but one rifle, I'd keep my older Winchester Model 70 in .30-06. It has the BOSS system installed on it, so I can sort of tune the barrel to different loads. It's the most consistent shooting rifle I've ever owned.
Just bought an all black $800 .270 rifle and I feel it's no different than my 30/06. I still like my $1600 Winchester 300magnum better but only because of the physical feel of the gun itself. It has a nice lightweight polished wood trim with a short stock and it fits perfectly. Just don't like how it kicks much harder than my 3.5" 12ga slugs because the gun is so light. I hunt deer, hogs, elk, and black bear, no more than 100 yards. Still new to hunting and the 300mag is my 1st rifle. I really want to hunt moose next. For 300mag I use federal soft point 180 and sometimes 220 grain.
At 100 yards...my 35 Remington can do all that. With less stress to the shoulder. No need for these calibers at short range....but there are no wrong answers where 270 or 30-06 are concerned.
Equally good. Base your decision on the best gun you can afford at the time you need it. And that includes other calibers like .308, 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, etc. But also consider availability and price of ammo. I do see 30-06 and .308 more than anything else (pre-shortages).
A few months ago I got my hands on a Ruger M77/270. I took it straight to my gun smith and had a new Shilen barrel installed in 275 Rigby. I don't have a use for a .270 and at this time there is no ammo and no dies. I prefer the 275 anyway.
I screwed up and posted too soon and I'm finishing my LONG winded comment
Please be patient with me dear readers. Because of the heaver bullets of 180-200 and 220 grains I would choose the 30-06 if I should be forced to use only one rifle for the rest of my lifetime. However, local hunters in Africa have killed elephants with .270's when forced to because they had no other rifle. They used solid bullets not commonly available here in the U.S...??? WOW! Jack O'Connor admitted the 30-06 was more versatile than the .270.However, don't underestimate the .270. as it has surprised many a doubter as to just have wicked and vicious it can be on very large animals from grissly bear to lions to o 2500 lb eland. Same for the 30-06. Still, those big heavy bullets are comforting.
The answer is neither, I have used a 30-06 for 13 years and I love it but honestly there is no perfect cartridge
Thank you for your review!
I have a .308 which will cover elk and moose, I’ve got a 223 for varmints and coyotes, and soon I’ll be getting a model 70 in 270 for all medium-sized game.
I Own one Highpower rifle a Remington model 700 ADL wood and steel model chambered in the 270 Winchester, its 23 years old now and I have put down many mule deer and 3 spike Elk but in over 20 years of hunting the longest shot was 300 meters give or take my rifle is a tack driver. But anything over 300 yards I would move in closer to the game if possible to make a effective kill shot but that's me I can remember when 300 yards was considered way out there.
The cartridges look so similar(especially in the dark preping). With my sons taking 30-06 and me w 270, I have marked all bullets w Sharpie. I swear you could not see difference w/naked eye..
While both are great calibers. I find a preference for short actions, due to not being a natural lefty. I tend to short stroke a long action left hand bolt. Making me lean towards 308 and 270 WSM.
In a single shot or pump action it is less of a concern. Unfortunately the pump actions are harder to find these days.
When I went to buy a real deer rifle in my 20s I was all set on a .243 u til I had the thought that I should probably get a more versatile rifle as my first one since it might be my main tool for a while. Then the 30-06 won out for ammo availability (as in variety ) and a slight edge as a .308 caliber in case I wanted to hunt elk someday. My reading seemed to indicate that might help and looking at the ballistic charts the heavy bullets seemed to carry a lot of energy down range
Here are 2 of my favorite loads for these cartridges:
•130 grain 270 at 3,200 ft/s (2,955 ft lbs)
•190 grain 30-06 at 2,770 ft/s (3,237 ft lbs)
Great content as always
You mean there are other calibers than the 30-06!?! I have an old Brazilian Mauser with the Germany stamp on the end of the barrel. Got it for my 17th birthday, I'll be 35 in June and it is still hands down the best rifle I've ever fired.
Both bullets are great choices and will kill a deer exceptionally well. However when it came time to choose one for my new hunting rifle I went with the 3006. For a number of reasons like ammo availability, more bullet diversity and slightly higher rifle barrel life to name a few.
The fact is these cartridges have more in common than they differ. They're the same 3.340" OAL. They have similar powder charge weights. They even have a little overlap in bullet weights. They have near identical energy at 200 yards, and have similar energy across the 1-400 yard envelope. People claim .30-06 has more recoil than .270 Win, but there's not as much difference as folks make out. In a blind test using the most common medium game loadings most of us probably wouldn't be able to tell a difference (and I can mathematically prove that).
They perform basically the same function and have near identical effects on game. The '06 due to a wider bullet selection can lend itself better to larger game like moose and bear but .270 can and has been used on plenty of big critters too. So which is the best for **You** dear reader? It doesn't matter, just get the one that assuages your confirmation bias the most.
When it comes to putting food on the table, who cares. Both will get the job done.
I personally chose a .270 because I'm an above average marksman and can make up for smaller bullet, etc. with more precise placement.
.270 hands down for me and my.270 has been to Africa and back to the states and all one shot dirt naps.
Thanks! A very informative video
Glad it was helpful!
I took a bison with my .270 with one bullet
first person to speak truth on the 270 i love the info provided keep up the good work. hope to hear about the guy that was in africa hunting and taking down elephants with his 270 in the future for all the guys that call the 270 a glorified squirrel gun lol
Another company, Winchester, wanted to market a cartridge and they did. They made it to have a slight edge over the 06. Is it better? Jack O’Connor couldn’t decide.
270 any day I’ve took elk at 500 yearns with it
New hunter here. I’ve been trying to decide b/w the .270 win, 30-06, and 7mm rem mag. Buying an entry level hunting rifle but idk which to chamber it in.I’ll be hunting whitetail primarily but later bigger game hopefully all sub 300yds. Any suggestions?
How big is the property? under 200 I'd get a lever gun 44mag or 35 remington. I think the 30-06 is the most versatile though.
This is my similar dilemma. But I have narrowed it down to .270 or 30-06 and eliminated the 7mm. I have come to conclude that as a newbie to hunting, the 30-06 will best suit my needs for the mean time. I just based it through the vast amount of ammunition variation. It kicks a litle bit harder though but I am not going to use it as a plinker, that is what an AR is for. But for whatever you decide, I think you are not going to make a mistake. I was just lucky that I was able to try both calibers with matching rifles from a friend who has amassed collections.
Not a question of what’s good for me, it’s a question of what l want based on how well l’m sold on the idea of which is a better cartridge. Companies are always finding new ways to sell a product. Sometimes they win sometimes they lose. The 270 won and lots of people use it, but many still use the .30-06 too. Recoil? I bought a 270 for that reason and that reason alone. Later l realized l can down load the 06. Trajectory? Please….. you have plenty of room for error with either cartridge on big game.
When are we going to be getting more cartridge comparisons
Latest one just went live today!
Nice video good informations ,and I got both calibers
Only shooting deer well inside of 200 (usually 50), either one is more than plenty. I don’t know a ton about exotic stuff like elk, but wouldn’t either one do just fine?
My question: which is cheaper and easier to find and reload for?
At least these days, I'm seeing more stuff for the 30-06 than the 270 (though the 270 isn't rare)...
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog that’s good. I’m probably going to a short action, but I’ve kicked these two calibers around in my mind over the years.
That's why I use a 336 in 35 Remington for whitetails and black bear. You don't really need these two beasts unless you need to reach out.
270 Nosler 150 Elk killer! 30/06 150 gr flatter shooting love Both
3006 is king
Only if you are a size queen
@@jimbob2422 got em
Great presentation, keep the standards high. 👍 🇺🇸
What's the price difference?
I grew up with the 30-06. Don't get me wrong we had shitloads are rifles with that was the bolt action rifle that was the hunting rifle that was the long-distance target rifle. And quite honestly... Having both that and the 270... You get a little more speed out of the 270 which has it remaining a little flattered and it is slightly a little more generally speaking aerodynamic.
But honestly regarding the wound that gets left... You honestly going to be able to tell the difference between the two up close? No you're not. And honestly as long as you land that bullet where it needs to be it's not going to make a difference which one you use. Because both of them are going to fuck up and destroy whatever they hit. Honestly I believe that the 270 just gives you a slight flatter trajectory with a very very slight advantage in velocity.
The 06 is a little harder hitting but not by much it's almost immeasurable to be honest.
but that's just my opinion based off of my personal experiences. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong that's just my opinion. You use whatever works for you. I have a buddy of mine that swears by the 308 he will not hunt with anything but a 308 and it's effective for him he has dropped some of the largest game in North America year after year with a 308.
That's what works for him. I prefer the 06 myself.
At any rate always be safe know it's behind your target know how to handle your weapon and stay safe out there, keep carrying and God bless 🙏
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So basically, if I wanted a 270 ar, I wouldn't be that worse off just going with an ar10 (carriage wise)
Between the 270 and 30-06, is my 308 win, and I will stick with it.
Can I use 270 bullet in 30-06 ?
No, do not do that.
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Got all 3,don't know what to use on 1st day of buc every year cause they are all perfect cal.got em on 308,270,so I guess I will have to try my ot 6 to complete my goal to get em on all 3.
That’s like asking which of my children I love the most
Haha!
270 best for deer. 30-06 best all around big game from deer to moose. Just depends on what your hunting.
Right on
.30-06 is king.
.270 is just better. It's faster, flatter shooting, has a way better BC, isn't effected by wind as much as .30-06, and carries more energy, especially at longer range.
30-06 is great. I love the cartridge, but .270 takes it in every category. Speed, drop, drift and energy - .270 does it all better.
@@PotatoeJoe69 I think what you meant to say is the 30-06 is just a little too much for my shoulder. That's what everyone REALLY means when they have anything negative to say about the greatest caliber ever invented.
So how did they measure bullet speed in the 1920's?
Ballistic pendulum
Federal powershok, 130 grain 270....... deadly
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The .280 Remington is the one that’s best for me .
I’ve owned and hunted with all three …. The .280 Remington is the only one that still remains in my possession from those three .
Best performer hands down !
270 is the mother of all berry slingers + less recoil for us old farts
I know this history quite well. So to sum it all up. There was a lot of evidence that a necked down 30-06 that approximated 7mm diameter would have all the benefits of a 30-06 with somewhat longer range and flatter trajectory. This has been in dispute for many years. Only you can be the judge of who was right.
All the new wizz bang cartridges end up comparing their performance to the gold standard 30-06
I shot to elk with 270win 150gr and they got away on me and with 3006 150gr they drop on the spot
Which ones for you? Why not own both? Lol
So "typical" .270 is an underpowered, 130 grain cartridge at 3075 instead of 3160 fps. I prefer to compare cartridges using the same bullet weight, or at least some common denominator. If factories loaded the .270 Winchester to its original power, including Winchester, the cartridge would have a lot better reputation with new shooters. Still, some people just want to knock stuff that isn't theirs. I use 150 grains for the .270 Win because it's ballistically superior to the .30-06 when properly loaded.
I'm not sure why ammo companies throttled the 270 down to around 3,060fps (or thereabouts) with a 130gr bullet, but they did. Since that is the most common load for the cartridge, that's what I used in this test. Same thing with the 30-06 loads. Of course, handloaders can play with things around the edges, but this video is more of a comparison of typical performance of both cartridges with factory loads. Thanks for the comment!
The 270 is best for everyone no comparison waste of time discussing this one
nice done
Thanks!
270 with monolithic or partition bullets. 3006 any other bullet.
30-06
6.8 Western is better than both.
Does the local hardware store stock the ammo?