This Picard is not Patrick Stewart. This Picard is all the producers who made this character and all the screenwriters who wrote his lines in the script. Patrick Stewart then delivered those lines in such an unforgettable way. Patrick Stewart is still here, but that is not enough. We are missing the right screenwriters and producers.
Picard - "I need a favour" B'iJik - "A favour?" Picard to Riker "Theres an echo in here" Picard to B'iJik "I need a cloaked ship" B'iJik - "A cloaked ship?" Picard to Riker "There it is again" 🤣
I remember once being told a Suzuki 2 stroke motorscooter and a J frame S&W revolver + ammo was indeed, "No small favor", Nevermind a Warp capable Starship, ROFLMAO ! 🙀
"A MESSAGE!?.....very well." as soon as he delivered that line, I got some chills. The stars aligned and this junior adjutant was well and truly fucked, to be forced to be the middle man that has to deliver one of Picard's perfectly crafted dialogues to someone who clearly does not want to hear from him at that moment. Poor dude, I rarely feel bad for a fictional character and this was one of those times.
Excuse me, but I would like to kiss the person who write's Picard's speeches. Patrick Stewart delivers them expertly, but someone had to sit down and write them first, to use their own knowledge and skill to create the dialogue we love.
"i'm sure there are others in the Klingon empire that would be willing to help me, and then *they* would have our gratitude" that's Picard speak for "i made you, i can unmake you"
I was thinking of the line from The Godfather: And if by chance an honest man like yourself should make enemies then they would become my enemies... and then they will fear you.
I almost was going to bed tonight thinking he was speaking of trading a future favor to another Klingon, and not threaten too unravel the entire Klingon Empire.
He didn't make junior adjutant by be thick as _Debrick_ ... Ooof-ah Man I'm sorry. I just couldn't help it. No offense please I was just funnin'. Okay? Drinks on me next time we see And you're right. Dude's pretty sharp. Prbly why they put him on the call. Great scene from beginning to end
@@ronaldcustard4636 The trouble is that Patrick Stewart is not Picard. Picard is all the producers who made this character and all the screenwriters who wrote his lines in the script. Patrick Stewart then delivered those lines in such an unforgettable way. Patrick Stewart is still here, but that is not enough. We are missing the right screenwriters and producers.
@@nerminc.1713 Many fans have a problem with the new Star Treks since JJ-Trek. But most of them are not able to clearly say what is it that they don't like and why,... what is actually wrong there. They very often point on some superficial things, details, like "this props looks wrong" or "i don't like how the character acts". And when studio or someone asks them what do they want, they reply "We want Kirk!", "We want Picard!" And the studio just replys "There you have it. So why are you still complaining?" And suddenly, they look just like a troublemakers who are never happy with anything. So many people just don't realize that when they say "I want Picard!", they actually mean they want the people who created the character and all the environment that Picard belongs to. We are not getting what we want, because we are not saying what we actually want.
@@Lukas-Trnka Perhaps productiuon companies see it that way and understand that having previously successful franchises will bring them money. The producers and new show runners aren't interested in continuing Star Trek, rather making money and making their own thing. I think a lot of people can illustrate what they don't like about the kelvin timeline, and when people say "we want Picard" it's very clear and it would be common sense that they don't just want the image of Picard, but rather the character and everything the encompasses him. People don't communicate in machine speak. To further the point: a lot of people are pointing out that the new Trek/kelvin timeline is missing depth. It's been echoed that the new Trek does not make you think, but rather forces you to think one way and casts you aside if you think otherwise. Star Trek used to take relatable, human topics and focus an episode around it. New Trek seems to try to expand the breth and raise the stakes to an ridiculously extraordinary high. A lot like the Marvel movies do. The viewer loses their perception on the topic (a lot like trying to envision the whole universe) It becomes unrelatable. New Trek doesn't seem to give you the time to think. It's pace is very fast and keeps throwing things at you, almost as to distract you from the poor writing, and flimsy plot.
This is peak Trek. Great writing, great acting, simple but effective cinematography. It abounds with with subtlety and care. This is the kind of thing that keeps me wanting to come back for more every week.
In the days now where every scene has to be a visual overload of CGI, it is so incredibly gratifying to watch these scenes where the mastery of dialogue and negotiations gives more chills and goosebumps than even the most epic of space battles. Jean-Luc Picard is a master of instilling fear in the most elegant, thoughtful way. No violence. No threats. His ability to smile and speak politely while implying "I will lay waste to your society" will always be my favorite moments.
I never really realized it until now, but after playing Shogun: Total War 2, I made the connection. The Klingon Empire is like feudal Japan. There is a revered Emperor who wields no actual power but is the spiritual focus of the people, while real power rests with the Chancellor (Shogun). Each Klingon clan (House) maintains their own military power and occasionally struggles break out when one House wants to become the ruling House. A complex system of honor, blood feud, alliances and deadly insult instigate tensions between the Houses, and the Empire tends to be distrustful of outsiders. The only difference is that the Chancellorship is not passed to the heir of the current ruling House but can be won by another. That's why Picard can threaten to go to another prominent figure in the Empire for the ship he needs. A House has its own vessels.
@@matthewredman7814 Except the Klingon Empire was originally based on Western understanding of the characteristics of the former Soviet Union of the late 1960s.
@@echos5823 What part of "originally" did you miss, out of curiosity? Was the term "late 1960s" not a big enough indicator for you to grasp the fact that I was, indeed, only referring to TOS? Or was this just your "Captain Obvious" impression?
Worf: I believe I know H'why our messeges are not being answered. He's too busy eating pie with Cool H'whip. Picard: Leave the over pronunciation to me Mr H'Worf.
@@StarRunner17 Blame the Dutch. It's where the formal English pronunciations come from for: why, where and when. Technically supposed to be pronounced: hwy, hwere, and hwen.
@@SwordsmanRyan They didn't connive. They exposed the Romulan involvement in the Klingon "civil war". That was not only a treaty breach but having a Romulan puppet in charge of the klingon empire would have been disastrous.
If Data says "I've expanded my search parameters," then you need to shoot him, because that isn't Data. Data doesn't use contractions (even though Brent Spiner did in this clip...oops.)
@@markdillon5494 yeah, I mean Sisko was pretty thuggish sometimes. But not subtly menacing like this; his kind of threats were delivered far more directly. Sad thing is that he was in a place where this kind of arm-wrestling diplomacy would have been a daily requirement for the job. I blame the script-writers, to be honest. Great concept, some good general storylines, but "damn sloppy".
Picard managed to even incense the middle man stuck being the messenger without resorting to violence. "You'll have our gratitude" is one of the most diplomatic "heck you"s in science fiction. And then the icing on the cake was Picard congratulating the guy's boss on his rise to power.
The way Picard says "Yes" here is priceless. It's like he knows he's already checkmated his opponent and knows he is going to enjoy watching him slowly come to the same realization...
Certainly one of the best scenes from the series. It highlights the type of man Picard is, from his style of leadership to how he handles issues. Amazing writing!
@@kurtjk01 The problem is not much in Patrick Stewart him self. Stewart is an actor. The trouble is in screenwriters and in studio's requirements for producers and screenwriters.
@@kurtjk01 I know, but he is not really a producer. He is more like a public face of the producers. He is an experienced actor who got the opportunity to recreate something he likes and something he thinks should continue. Unfortunately he is not the right man for the job. There should be someone else next to Chabon, to provide a creative opposition.
@@Lukas-Trnka He didn't agree to do it until he saw the treatment; he had put Picard to bed, so to speak, and was reluctant to do it at first. Executive producers very often have strong creative input, and it unfortunately shows here. He's a great actor, no doubt about it . . . But the way they're deconstructing a great character has a "down in flames" feeling all over it.
I had never seen any Star Trek until last month when I watched my first episode of TNG. ITS THE BEST THING EVER! I love the happy and optimistic view of the future.
"If Gowron can't (won't) provide us a ship, I'm sure there are others who will. And we would be grateful to _them."_ "... I see." He may just be a junior adjutant, but he's not stupid!
@@jonathandoelander6130 well I was referring to 'Picard' , but I don't really care for 'Discovery' either...although I don't dislike it as much, because it didn't destroy a well loved icon
They trashed a perfectly built phased cloaking device and then Sisko was all "shit now i have to borrow one from the Romulans". They could've laid phased whatever torpedos in the center of the Founder's homeworld and *boom* war over.
Picard loses his cool, as a Klingon would. Then asks a big favor, threatens the guy indirectly that Gowron could lose Federation support should he need it again, AND insults Gowron in less than 2 minutes. Very nice. haha
Inflection on the "THEY" implies the person they are giving support to is the important one where as the "OUR" implies their support is the important part.
@@WandererTheLost No it's to emphasize the difference between the two conditions. The only condition changing is who will get their gratitude so you emphasize THEY to make the two conditions more distinct.
@grog3514 Not agreeing with me is absolutely fine, but being unable to understand is worrying. Do I need to explain it to you in another way or do you not understand how it could make sense that way?
If you want to fight, Sisco is your captain. If you want to break stuff and sleep with everything, its Kirk. If you want to survive, its Janeway. But if you want to walk away with sass, its got to be Picard
"How will it benefit the Empire; I'm sure Gowron will ask." For what it's worth, this "Junior Adjutant to the Diplomatic Delegation" seems to be good at his little job.
People who complain about the Downfall of Gowron forget this was a thing: that he was so into himself that he changed Klingon history. Of course he would force his hand on more Glory and do his best to make Martok fail.
When Picard makes the implied threat of "and then, they would have our gratitude," he steps forward. I've just noticed how that step forward reframes Picards face and shows only the black of his uniform for the rest of the conversation, mirroring Picard showing the Klingon's his "dark side"
When Picard initially mentions his "gratitude", it seems like a cheap nothing, a worthless acknowledgement. But then he goes on to mention the other houses, "and then... they would have our gratitude." Suddenly, Picard extending his "gratitude" is no longer an inconsequential formality; it is a threat.
True. This ranks up wright there with "You enjoyed that - You damn right i did" and "Federation is weak and fears conflict - That is an assumption you are free to test at your convineance" or something like that.
@@chrispile3878 Nope, Mark Twain. Will Rogers might have said it as well. He said a lot of things that I Iiked. Among them, "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
I love how Picard changes his body language and demeanor just enough to have proper "diplomatic conversations" with aliens based on who they are the the "hat" their culture wears.
Watching this is like watching old highlight reels of former all star pros. Now they are reduced to silly antics and their name is worth more than the actual human. This will always be the real Picard.
"Gratitude" is the language and currency of diplomacy. When you have amassed a sufficient amount of it, then you can get Empires to bend and bow to your will and requests.
THIS is why you DON'T change (or mess with) Picard! He can be an awesome bad@$$ without using martial arts, phaser pistols, or whatever! He can just stand there confidently, say a few words, and get what he wants. All while making some flunky wet himself & make the leader of the Klingon Empire reluctant to piss him off! THAT is what STP SHOULD have been! Instead they made Picard everybody's whipping boy & a little bitch.
Alongside the episode of the Shelieak, this is one of the most diplomatic ways of saying give us what we want and you have no other alternative than to do so i,ve ever seen n i LOVE it.
I believe he could. But you know how it is, you can't start a cozy bonfire on the bottom of the ocean, even if the wood was perfectly capable of burning before you brought it there.
Picard: Still no word from the Klingon High Council, Mr. Worf? Worf: No sir Picard: He's ignoring us, what other explanation could there be? Riker: You'd think after three days, he'd find a minute to talk to you Worf: Well, he has been rather busy rewriting Klingon history Picard: Yes, that's something kings on Earth used to do all the time. Try them again, Lieutenant Worf: Aye, sir Picard: In the meantime, let's deal with that Romulan thing Worf: Sir, incoming message Picard: On screen, Mr. Worf Worf: Apologies, sir, but the transmission is audio only Picard: Hmm. Very well, lieutenant, play the transmission [A Klingon voice plays] Klingon: Thank you for contacting the Klingon High Council. Unfortunately, all of our operators are busy, but we will connect you as soon as possible. [Hold tune plays] Picard: What is this nonsense? Data: Captain, it appears that it is a piece of music from Earth, from the mid 20th century, called "The Girl From Ipanema" Riker: "The Girl From Ipanema"? Data: Yes, sir. It was originally written by a Brazilian who went by the name Antonio Carlos Jobim, but this version would seem to be a reworking of the original to remove the lyrics Riker: Why would they do that? Data: In the latter stages of the 20th century, it was felt that a certain style of music played at appropriate times would ease Human discomfort. For example, in an elevator, or... Picard: ... or being placed on hold Data: Precisely, sir. It would seem that we are encountering what would have been known as a recorded message [music stops] Klingon: All of our operators are still busy. We apologise for the delay, your call is important to us and we will answer your call as soon as possible. Alternatively, you can leave a message... Picard: A MESSAGE!?!?!?!?
When you use the veiled threat of sponsering future regime change to get access to equipment to undertake a covert operation within a rival superpower in order to help one of your ambassdors, who is attempting to groom a politician in said rival empire to agree to a unification with one of the members of your superpower therefore eliminating them as a threat and adding their power to your own.
Picard knew *JUST* when to drop the hammer. And how to soften the blow. He's not captain of the Federation flagship for no reason. Starfleet could have done a *_HELL_* of lot worse than select Jean Luc Picard as captain of their flagship.
Wait, that can't be right. Picard isn't a fumbling moron, the dialogue didn't rely on profanity as a crutch, and the content wasn't blatantly, ineptly plagiarizing Mass Effect. They didn't even solve their differences with violence, pew-pew lasers, and weaponized lens flares! What madman's Star Trek is this!?
@@greghamilton8868 ...Yes, I understand that a show that aired during the 80s and 90s came before Mass Effect. My point was to make fun of the modern ST Discovery and Picard shows, which have borrowed so heavily from certain other materials that they could be better described as inept bootlegs of Mass Effect than they could Star Trek.
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Diplomacy: The art of telling someone to go to hell in such a way, they look forward to the trip.
I couldn't have said that better!!!😎
Winston Churchhill
@@shadowjack8 For future reference, it's "cite".
Bwahahaha.....we could use some of that right now...
@@Ishlacorrin It usually does. He didn't say half the things he said! But this also does not match his style.
THIS, is the Picard I will remember.
That is Picard forever from tng to the movies and ending in STO
He’s so badass here
"J.L." would have been hung up on by this Klingon flunky.
This Picard is not Patrick Stewart. This Picard is all the producers who made this character and all the screenwriters who wrote his lines in the script. Patrick Stewart then delivered those lines in such an unforgettable way.
Patrick Stewart is still here, but that is not enough. We are missing the right screenwriters and producers.
As opposed to the new pu**y whipped wet blanket. I agree.
Riker: You enjoyed that...
Picard: You're damn right.
Wrong episode; right attitude!
Say my name
@@jondonnelly4831 : Twat
:-P
No you Can't, dont even try
Ah so may good episodes
"damned"*
Picard - "I need a favour"
B'iJik - "A favour?"
Picard to Riker "Theres an echo in here"
Picard to B'iJik "I need a cloaked ship"
B'iJik - "A cloaked ship?"
Picard to Riker "There it is again"
🤣
lmfao xD
That's out of character for Picard. Sounds more like Shepard from Mass Effect lol
I remember once being told a Suzuki
2 stroke motorscooter and a
J frame S&W revolver + ammo was indeed,
"No small favor",
Nevermind a Warp capable Starship, ROFLMAO !
🙀
😂😂😂
@@Escap1st7 Indeed!
"A MESSAGE!?.....very well."
as soon as he delivered that line, I got some chills. The stars aligned and this junior adjutant was well and truly fucked, to be forced to be the middle man that has to deliver one of Picard's perfectly crafted dialogues to someone who clearly does not want to hear from him at that moment. Poor dude, I rarely feel bad for a fictional character and this was one of those times.
@Zardoz no1 curr
Zardoz sad but true
@@narutobroken no it's not
@Zardoz Show me on the doll where the nasty TV show hurt you.
@Zardoz The sheer, fucking, hubris.
Excuse me, but I would like to kiss the person who write's Picard's speeches. Patrick Stewart delivers them expertly, but someone had to sit down and write them first, to use their own knowledge and skill to create the dialogue we love.
Lucky guy...somewhere.
That person would appear to be Jeri Taylor, who went on to write for Voyager, eventually as head writer for S3-S4!
Came to say what @NoNo-or2wj said. Jeri Taylor deserves your kiss.
@@CarlosRuiz-sg9nd I am Jeri Taylor. Kiss me, @ohkayhgoplay.
"i'm sure there are others in the Klingon empire that would be willing to help me, and then *they* would have our gratitude"
that's Picard speak for "i made you, i can unmake you"
That’s Picard speak for the Federation are keeping him in power.
Yes! The emphasis was most certainly incorrect. Kudos for noticing.
I was thinking of the line from The Godfather: And if by chance an honest man like yourself should make enemies then they would become my enemies... and then they will fear you.
I almost was going to bed tonight thinking he was speaking of trading a future favor to another Klingon, and not threaten too unravel the entire Klingon Empire.
He can make it so and he can unmake it so
He might be a junior adjutant but he certainly understood the sarcasm and obtuse angle around Picards favour!
He didn't make junior adjutant by be thick as _Debrick_ ...
Ooof-ah
Man I'm sorry. I just couldn't help it. No offense please I was just funnin'.
Okay? Drinks on me next time we see
And you're right. Dude's pretty sharp. Prbly why they put him on the call.
Great scene from beginning to end
Junior adjutant to the whole Klingon Empire is still a big deal 😂
4:33 🤣
The REAL Captain Picard....
marks47 Who is Patrick Stewart in STP?
@@ronaldcustard4636 The trouble is that Patrick Stewart is not Picard. Picard is all the producers who made this character and all the screenwriters who wrote his lines in the script. Patrick Stewart then delivered those lines in such an unforgettable way.
Patrick Stewart is still here, but that is not enough. We are missing the right screenwriters and producers.
@@Lukas-Trnka You're so very right. Strangely I haven't thought of it this way before. The character is a team of people.
@@nerminc.1713 Many fans have a problem with the new Star Treks since JJ-Trek. But most of them are not able to clearly say what is it that they don't like and why,... what is actually wrong there. They very often point on some superficial things, details, like "this props looks wrong" or "i don't like how the character acts". And when studio or someone asks them what do they want, they reply "We want Kirk!", "We want Picard!" And the studio just replys "There you have it. So why are you still complaining?" And suddenly, they look just like a troublemakers who are never happy with anything.
So many people just don't realize that when they say "I want Picard!", they actually mean they want the people who created the character and all the environment that Picard belongs to.
We are not getting what we want, because we are not saying what we actually want.
@@Lukas-Trnka Perhaps productiuon companies see it that way and understand that having previously successful franchises will bring them money. The producers and new show runners aren't interested in continuing Star Trek, rather making money and making their own thing.
I think a lot of people can illustrate what they don't like about the kelvin timeline, and when people say "we want Picard" it's very clear and it would be common sense that they don't just want the image of Picard, but rather the character and everything the encompasses him. People don't communicate in machine speak.
To further the point: a lot of people are pointing out that the new Trek/kelvin timeline is missing depth. It's been echoed that the new Trek does not make you think, but rather forces you to think one way and casts you aside if you think otherwise.
Star Trek used to take relatable, human topics and focus an episode around it. New Trek seems to try to expand the breth and raise the stakes to an ridiculously extraordinary high. A lot like the Marvel movies do. The viewer loses their perception on the topic (a lot like trying to envision the whole universe) It becomes unrelatable.
New Trek doesn't seem to give you the time to think. It's pace is very fast and keeps throwing things at you, almost as to distract you from the poor writing, and flimsy plot.
B'iJik came half stepping and JLP dished out a verbal pimp slap so devastating it went back in time and destroyed Praxis.
😆😅🤣😂🤣
It's even worse for him: he has to take that message to Gowron. I hope it's a good day to die.
You had me at verbal pimp slapping! lol
@@scottbilger9294 Gowron isn't unreasonable, he would have understood.
@@Bitchslapper316 Then you can take him the message.
This scene is masterful. Shows just how awesome a negotiator Picard is.
It also shows how good the writers were.
@@eramires Absolutely.
@@eramires what do you mean, the writers are still good, BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! i CRACK MYSELF UP!
@@mainsource8030 lol
He is able to wield a carrot as a potential stick; a tribute to his skilled leadership
This is the best "iron hand in velvet glove" dialogue I have ever heard.
This is peak Trek. Great writing, great acting, simple but effective cinematography. It abounds with with subtlety and care. This is the kind of thing that keeps me wanting to come back for more every week.
Discovery beats this any day
@@paradisebreeze1705 What does Discovery do better?
@@DouglasZwick Nothing. Discovery was OK Trek, but it didn't do anything better.
@@billybegood466Better drama and effects! This is old white guys being boring.
@@notabannedaccount8362 Well you can have better effects, I'll take better story telling, character development and continuity.
In the days now where every scene has to be a visual overload of CGI, it is so incredibly gratifying to watch these scenes where the mastery of dialogue and negotiations gives more chills and goosebumps than even the most epic of space battles.
Jean-Luc Picard is a master of instilling fear in the most elegant, thoughtful way. No violence. No threats. His ability to smile and speak politely while implying "I will lay waste to your society" will always be my favorite moments.
Darn I could not have said it better. Well done.
CGI is improving, and would be fine if the writing were still up to par to go with it. If only :/.
“ A MESSAGE!?”
Engage Picard mode: Cunning
I never really realized it until now, but after playing Shogun: Total War 2, I made the connection. The Klingon Empire is like feudal Japan. There is a revered Emperor who wields no actual power but is the spiritual focus of the people, while real power rests with the Chancellor (Shogun). Each Klingon clan (House) maintains their own military power and occasionally struggles break out when one House wants to become the ruling House. A complex system of honor, blood feud, alliances and deadly insult instigate tensions between the Houses, and the Empire tends to be distrustful of outsiders. The only difference is that the Chancellorship is not passed to the heir of the current ruling House but can be won by another. That's why Picard can threaten to go to another prominent figure in the Empire for the ship he needs. A House has its own vessels.
Love the explanation
@@matthewredman7814 Except the Klingon Empire was originally based on Western understanding of the characteristics of the former Soviet Union of the late 1960s.
@@lancer525 That was more of a tos thing. By TNG onwards, the klingon lore started to incorporate elements from other groups.
@@echos5823 What part of "originally" did you miss, out of curiosity? Was the term "late 1960s" not a big enough indicator for you to grasp the fact that I was, indeed, only referring to TOS? Or was this just your "Captain Obvious" impression?
@@lancer525 Really? I thought the Romulans are pretty clearly the Soviet Union and the Klingons (at least in TNG) are pretty clearly Japanese.
Worf: I believe I know H'why our messeges are not being answered.
He's too busy eating pie with Cool H'whip.
Picard: Leave the over pronunciation to me Mr H'Worf.
All right, say "y."
T'Pol did this quite often. H'why do they do this?!?!
Haha 🤣 cheers for the laugh
@@StarRunner17 Blame the Dutch. It's where the formal English pronunciations come from for: why, where and when. Technically supposed to be pronounced: hwy, hwere, and hwen.
@@StarRunner17 They're eating hair!
I love the blatant blackmailing in this scene with so few words haha
Also in a really clever way. He could tell this to someone else and only the intended target of the message would get it.
Yes, and the story, the reason why he does the favor, is narrated at the same time.
Jonathan McKerley exactly. The Federation connived to put Gowron I charge and now extorts him to further another illegal Starfleet involvement.
@@SwordsmanRyan They didn't connive. They exposed the Romulan involvement in the Klingon "civil war". That was not only a treaty breach but having a Romulan puppet in charge of the klingon empire would have been disastrous.
You say blackmail, I say diplomacy...
If Data says "I've expanded my search parameters," you better listen!
I would grab a cup of coffee first xD
@@eramires I'd rather grab me a cup of tea. Earl Grey, hot.
@@Cobinja xD
That's what SHE said
If Data says "I've expanded my search parameters," then you need to shoot him, because that isn't Data. Data doesn't use contractions (even though Brent Spiner did in this clip...oops.)
"And they will have our gratitude"
cue the riker grin
Riker "You enjoyed that"
Picard "you're damned right"
I'm sorry...neither Sisko nor Janeway ever conveyed this level of badassery without sounding ridiculous.
They were NEVER on Picard's level. Merely poor pretenders.
@@markdillon5494 yeah, I mean Sisko was pretty thuggish sometimes. But not subtly menacing like this; his kind of threats were delivered far more directly. Sad thing is that he was in a place where this kind of arm-wrestling diplomacy would have been a daily requirement for the job. I blame the script-writers, to be honest. Great concept, some good general storylines, but "damn sloppy".
Picard managed to even incense the middle man stuck being the messenger without resorting to violence. "You'll have our gratitude" is one of the most diplomatic "heck you"s in science fiction. And then the icing on the cake was Picard congratulating the guy's boss on his rise to power.
Bai'chk is probly thinkng, "Damn. This human captain IS a good negotiator." LOL
I don't think I've heard any other Starfleet captain be able to disguise an insult as a compliment like Picard can.
It's for things like this that I like to remember Jean-Luc Picard.
The way Picard says "Yes" here is priceless. It's like he knows he's already checkmated his opponent and knows he is going to enjoy watching him slowly come to the same realization...
i can’t get enough of tng.the writing, dialogue and acting is so good.
Certainly one of the best scenes from the series. It highlights the type of man Picard is, from his style of leadership to how he handles issues. Amazing writing!
Too bad they let Patrick Stewart screw with the character in 2019.
@@kurtjk01 The problem is not much in Patrick Stewart him self. Stewart is an actor. The trouble is in screenwriters and in studio's requirements for producers and screenwriters.
@@Lukas-Trnka He's one of the executive producers, and okayed the storyline before signing. That makes him complicit.
@@kurtjk01 I know, but he is not really a producer. He is more like a public face of the producers. He is an experienced actor who got the opportunity to recreate something he likes and something he thinks should continue. Unfortunately he is not the right man for the job. There should be someone else next to Chabon, to provide a creative opposition.
@@Lukas-Trnka He didn't agree to do it until he saw the treatment; he had put Picard to bed, so to speak, and was reluctant to do it at first. Executive producers very often have strong creative input, and it unfortunately shows here. He's a great actor, no doubt about it . . . But the way they're deconstructing a great character has a "down in flames" feeling all over it.
Even Worf was insulted by being hailed by a 'junior adjutant'
Worf was insulted on almost every episode, would be viewed as blasphemy now by the woke brigade
I had never seen any Star Trek until last month when I watched my first episode of TNG. ITS THE BEST THING EVER! I love the happy and optimistic view of the future.
Don’t ruin it by watching STPicard though...
You should have been there in the 90s 🕊️✌️
Indeed this is Star Trek at his finest. Not the sad stuff we have today.
😢😢😢
Agree…ugh, I watched first season of Discovery and almost puked. Haven’t watched anything new since then.
I am singularly impressed with this trip down memory lane.
I love the way Worf says, "his...genius..."
"If Gowron can't (won't) provide us a ship, I'm sure there are others who will. And we would be grateful to _them."_
"... I see." He may just be a junior adjutant, but he's not stupid!
Thanks so much I love how Picards like A Message after transmitting for 3 days
Your welcome. That was a good idea.
@@April-dv2pb i love your name, this message has "view reply from april 5, 2063" and i couldnt help but chuckle.
That subtle face change when the call ends. Acting of the highest caliber.
no one insults like Picard, no one threatens like picard, no one drives home that knife with a smile like picard.
Please tell me you meant this in the “Gaston” song from Beauty and the Beast
Such class and brilliance. A testimony to why we loved TNG. All that new show did was leave a bad taste in our mouths.
And notably, they did a good job with balancing multiple ongoing plots throughout the series. It was rewarding to pay attention!
Which one? Discovery???? or Picard???
@@jonathandoelander6130 well I was referring to 'Picard' , but I don't really care for 'Discovery' either...although I don't dislike it as much, because it didn't destroy a well loved icon
@@thebluelight4498 Really? How about the Klingons?
What new show? The last Trek show was Enterprise in 2005. Anything else made after that is bad fan fiction.
should've asked Riker how to make a cloaking device
Lmao
They could of hung out in the center of Romulus
“Beam him... DOWN?”
If that Klingon was a millennial he would have said that to Picard.
He was probably too busy watching an episode of Quantum Leap.
They trashed a perfectly built phased cloaking device and then Sisko was all "shit now i have to borrow one from the Romulans". They could've laid phased whatever torpedos in the center of the Founder's homeworld and *boom* war over.
Picard: The only man who can intimidate Klingons just by talking to them through a viewscreen.
4:25 "Thank you Mr. Data for summoning that ominous background music right when I needed to drop the proverbial mic."
the ship pretty much flies itself, all the buttons control dramatic music and lighting
Picard loses his cool, as a Klingon would. Then asks a big favor, threatens the guy indirectly that Gowron could lose Federation support should he need it again, AND insults Gowron in less than 2 minutes. Very nice. haha
I will always be inpressed with any show that can make a compliment look and sound like a threat
Piccard went full mob boss.
"Nice empire you got there Galron. It'd be a shame if something happened to it."
Talk to the ferengi they'd likely sell you one.
At a substantial discount, no doubt.
@@billybegood466 And you'd find out later that the cloaking mechanism doesn't work.
@@katherinelandreth2191 and when it does work, it makes the ship glow bright pink
@@undrhil5281 Neon.
@@JonesNate that way after you get attacked they can sell you repairs for two times the price!
Picard Diplomacy - 101.
The inflection here always bothered me. He says, "they will have OUR gratitude" but it should be "THEY will have our gratitude".
Inflection on the "THEY" implies the person they are giving support to is the important one where as the "OUR" implies their support is the important part.
@@WandererTheLost No it's to emphasize the difference between the two conditions. The only condition changing is who will get their gratitude so you emphasize THEY to make the two conditions more distinct.
@@grog3514 Yours would not be incorrect, but neither is the way they did it.
@@WandererTheLost I find it bewildering that any thinking person could believe that.
@grog3514 Not agreeing with me is absolutely fine, but being unable to understand is worrying. Do I need to explain it to you in another way or do you not understand how it could make sense that way?
If you want to fight, Sisco is your captain. If you want to break stuff and sleep with everything, its Kirk. If you want to survive, its Janeway. But if you want to walk away with sass, its got to be Picard
"How will it benefit the Empire; I'm sure Gowron will ask."
For what it's worth, this "Junior Adjutant to the Diplomatic Delegation" seems to be good at his little job.
People who complain about the Downfall of Gowron forget this was a thing: that he was so into himself that he changed Klingon history. Of course he would force his hand on more Glory and do his best to make Martok fail.
I love Picard's gamesmanship, skillfully played by Sir Patrick Stewart.
_"Go on, piss me off, I dare you."_
I need to re-watch this magnificent series again!
You know you're the man when you're "gratitude" holds that much weight! 😂
The legendary Picard... never at a loss for words.
When Picard makes the implied threat of "and then, they would have our gratitude," he steps forward.
I've just noticed how that step forward reframes Picards face and shows only the black of his uniform for the rest of the conversation, mirroring Picard showing the Klingon's his "dark side"
"his genius... 😤" 🤣
When Picard initially mentions his "gratitude", it seems like a cheap nothing, a worthless acknowledgement. But then he goes on to mention the other houses, "and then... they would have our gratitude." Suddenly, Picard extending his "gratitude" is no longer an inconsequential formality; it is a threat.
love these shows. Never gets old. I could watch them all day.
This is the Picard we love. Skilfully taking advantage of a man’s vanity.
A legendary display of the Captain's IQ. This segment is in my top 5 for ST:TNG quotes, if not #1. For me, it NEVER gets old!
True. This ranks up wright there with "You enjoyed that - You damn right i did" and "Federation is weak and fears conflict - That is an assumption you are free to test at your convineance" or something like that.
"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggy, nice doggy', whilst looking urgently for a brick to knock him endways with."
- Mark Twain -
I believe that was Will Rogers - not Mark Twain.
@@chrispile3878 Nope, Mark Twain.
Will Rogers might have said it as well. He said a lot of things that I Iiked. Among them, "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
@@duckduckgoismuchbetter Twain and Rogers are both go-to guys for wisdom dispensed with timeless humor.
@@chrispile3878 True
I love the way Picard negotiates in this scene! 😁😁
Picard is too smooth. 😂
Love the subtle screw you jab at the end.
THIS is the real Picard: "I brought you into this throne and I can take you OUT."
Happy First Contact Day!
I love how Picard changes his body language and demeanor just enough to have proper "diplomatic conversations" with aliens based on who they are the the "hat" their culture wears.
I love every bit of dialogue in this clip
The best picard.
Picard: Hey, bro can I get a cloaked ship?
I love the “I SEE”.
Same, I have to chuckle everytime I watch it! 😂
Nice to see the subtitles are on point.
picard is such a boss, he’s just got the klingon high council on speed dial
Watching this is like watching old highlight reels of former all star pros. Now they are reduced to silly antics and their name is worth more than the actual human. This will always be the real Picard.
Yep
The klingons know that when Picard asks for a cloaked ship you don't give him one.
You give him 3.
You mean 4.
Unification I and II is one of the very best STNG episodes and not just because of Spock. Yesterday's Enterprise is the series' best episode.
Along with "The Inner Light"
"Gratitude" is the language and currency of diplomacy.
When you have amassed a sufficient amount of it, then you can get Empires to bend and bow to your will and requests.
THIS is why you DON'T change (or mess with) Picard!
He can be an awesome bad@$$ without using martial arts, phaser pistols, or whatever!
He can just stand there confidently, say a few words, and get what he wants. All while making some flunky wet himself & make the leader of the Klingon Empire reluctant to piss him off!
THAT is what STP SHOULD have been! Instead they made Picard everybody's whipping boy & a little bitch.
Just like what they did to Luke Skywalker . . . Canon and continuity matter. Hail Lord Doomcock . . . Without respect, we reject.
Picard is sneaky AF and I love it!
Alongside the episode of the Shelieak, this is one of the most diplomatic ways of saying give us what we want and you have no other alternative than to do so i,ve ever seen n i LOVE it.
"A MESSAGE?! ...very well."
Next time someone asks me to leave a message, this is exactly how I'll respond
Classic Picard. Goddamn chess master.
I wish Patrick Stewart could play Picard like THAT!
I believe he could. But you know how it is, you can't start a cozy bonfire on the bottom of the ocean, even if the wood was perfectly capable of burning before you brought it there.
This is a fabulous episode: full of great moments.
Thanks for sharing April 5, 2063. I love that.
And _that_ is how one wields diplomacy.
It's so hard to decide sometimes which was better, Patrick Stewarts acting, or the script. Such awesomeness on both sides!
Its both elevating each other
Someday, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do a service for me.
The new Picard is a shadow of his former self!
yes we know... can't you just ignore it?
@@CathrineMacNiel trying very hard to
@@callumbush1 poor little thing.
The new Picard is 90-something. I hope to be a shadow of myself if I'm LIVING past 90 🙄🙄
They took all the work Roddenberry did and squatted down and shat all over it!
Picard: Still no word from the Klingon High Council, Mr. Worf?
Worf: No sir
Picard: He's ignoring us, what other explanation could there be?
Riker: You'd think after three days, he'd find a minute to talk to you
Worf: Well, he has been rather busy rewriting Klingon history
Picard: Yes, that's something kings on Earth used to do all the time. Try them again, Lieutenant
Worf: Aye, sir
Picard: In the meantime, let's deal with that Romulan thing
Worf: Sir, incoming message
Picard: On screen, Mr. Worf
Worf: Apologies, sir, but the transmission is audio only
Picard: Hmm. Very well, lieutenant, play the transmission
[A Klingon voice plays]
Klingon: Thank you for contacting the Klingon High Council. Unfortunately, all of our operators are busy, but we will connect you as soon as possible.
[Hold tune plays]
Picard: What is this nonsense?
Data: Captain, it appears that it is a piece of music from Earth, from the mid 20th century, called "The Girl From Ipanema"
Riker: "The Girl From Ipanema"?
Data: Yes, sir. It was originally written by a Brazilian who went by the name Antonio Carlos Jobim, but this version would seem to be a reworking of the original to remove the lyrics
Riker: Why would they do that?
Data: In the latter stages of the 20th century, it was felt that a certain style of music played at appropriate times would ease Human discomfort. For example, in an elevator, or...
Picard: ... or being placed on hold
Data: Precisely, sir. It would seem that we are encountering what would have been known as a recorded message
[music stops]
Klingon: All of our operators are still busy. We apologise for the delay, your call is important to us and we will answer your call as soon as possible. Alternatively, you can leave a message...
Picard: A MESSAGE!?!?!?!?
This while I'm 100% certain Spotify ads are crafted to be as obnoxious and annoying as possible in an attempt to pester people into subscribing.
Picard is a peaceful man, but he knows full well how to talk to Klingons.
What an eloquent way of getting your point across..you get what you want or else.
Truly Picard is a masterful tactician.
When you use the veiled threat of sponsering future regime change to get access to equipment to undertake a covert operation within a rival superpower in order to help one of your ambassdors, who is attempting to groom a politician in said rival empire to agree to a unification with one of the members of your superpower therefore eliminating them as a threat and adding their power to your own.
Translation "Give me a clocked ship of I will rat him out."
And "Or else I'll help the other side like I helped yours"
Word: Gowron is rewriting Klingon history. If only other Klingons could read....
He is SUCH a diplomat.
This was a Picard moment. One of those moments when you know that Starfleet made the coolest choice.
Picard knew *JUST* when to drop the hammer. And how to soften the blow. He's not captain of the Federation flagship for no reason. Starfleet could have done a *_HELL_* of lot worse than select Jean Luc Picard as captain of their flagship.
Wait, that can't be right. Picard isn't a fumbling moron, the dialogue didn't rely on profanity as a crutch, and the content wasn't blatantly, ineptly plagiarizing Mass Effect. They didn't even solve their differences with violence, pew-pew lasers, and weaponized lens flares! What madman's Star Trek is this!?
Your father’s and grandfather’s trek
@AmateurThespian it also had class
Mass effect plagiarized Star Trek. When this was aired, mass effect wasn’t even in development.
@@greghamilton8868 ...Yes, I understand that a show that aired during the 80s and 90s came before Mass Effect. My point was to make fun of the modern ST Discovery and Picard shows, which have borrowed so heavily from certain other materials that they could be better described as inept bootlegs of Mass Effect than they could Star Trek.
@AmateurThespian Well, a double dumbass on you!
That's right, B'iJik, your empire's shaky internal situation.
Picard is a great diplomat and negotiator. He was the right captain for this mission.