@@haveaseatplease my mistake it’s Oli Edge that has the same bolt hole patterns I stand corrected. They do look quite similar, check this out www.oli-ebike.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Cat_tech_OLIeBikeSystems2_2021_EN_EDGE.pdf
E-P3+ looks promising. I found something in the specs of these motors. Polini engines are rated at IP55, but Bosh Performance and Active Line are only rated IP54. So theoretically Polini engines are somehow more splash-proof than Bosh.
How about maintenance, repair and availability of spare parts? Most other motors suck here. A lot of plastic internals? Is bracket easily replacebel? Etc.
I have the MX version in one of my bikes, a Fulgur Mula. It is both my favourite motor and my favourite bike. I have other bikes with Yamaha (Giant), Bosch Gen4, Gen4 Smart and Mahle motors so I have a broad range to compare with. I also find the Polini to be quite economical. I have one small thing that I would like to see updated on it and that would be to have the bluetooth bike data (speed, power and cadence) available to other third party devices beside the phone app, for recording along with the route. That is the one (and only) thing that the Yamaha (Giant) does better than the Polini. I'm sure that a firmware update should fix it because if it can connect to a phone surely it can connect to a nav device too?
Polini needs to work on the production numbers for this motor and invest in a much more automated production process. The current motors are pretty much hand build. If the production output would be increased a hundredfold, also mainstream brands would / could be interested in using it.
Yes but also isnt it refreshing to have something that isnt mass produced, so that someone can have a bike that isnt just the same as everyone elses, individuality seems to have decreased a bit over recent years, then it gives a chance to the boutique manufacturers instead of the big players just running everything. Years ago we used to have a road bike hand built with all of our own personal geometry in the frame design, and that was quite normal.
The original EP3 is already more then 6 year old. The new versions are a tad more powerful, but nothing world shocking. The original motor is praised for its reliability because it is pretty much bullet proof. However, the motor is not foolproof: washing the motor with high pressure power washer will kill it in the medium to long run.
Interesting😯
This has given me much to reflect on in terms of your method of testing. Good job and keep up the vids 👍🏿
Love your pragmatic approach to this motor test/comparison. Awesome review!
Thanks Knut. It's great that you're checking out alternatives to the mainstream.
Thank you for the review....Polini EP+ is the reliable motor.
We need a video of the Polini MX 90 nm of torque, and interchange it with a Shimano EP8 motor because it has the same bolt hole pattern as Shimano
Are you sure the Polini EP3 MX has the same bolt patterns than the Shimano EP8?
@@haveaseatplease my mistake it’s Oli Edge that has the same bolt hole patterns I stand corrected. They do look quite similar, check this out www.oli-ebike.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Cat_tech_OLIeBikeSystems2_2021_EN_EDGE.pdf
@@emtbtrailrider539 Thanks for the info, I'll have a look into this to replace my Shimano EP8 motor.
Finally knut!
E-P3+ looks promising. I found something in the specs of these motors. Polini engines are rated at IP55, but Bosh Performance and Active Line are only rated IP54. So theoretically Polini engines are somehow more splash-proof than Bosh.
That's an intersting observation. Hopefully I'll get the chance to talk to them and the development/design of their motors.
looks interesting. Are the Focarini bikes offered online?
How about maintenance, repair and availability of spare parts? Most other motors suck here. A lot of plastic internals? Is bracket easily replacebel? Etc.
Hi would be great to do a review of the polini Mx 90 nm motor …j
Yeah, just spoke to them. Hopefully I'll get the chance to test another bike with the MX motor this year.
@@EMTBVideos well it’s basically the same but stronger.
I have the MX version in one of my bikes, a Fulgur Mula. It is both my favourite motor and my favourite bike. I have other bikes with Yamaha (Giant), Bosch Gen4, Gen4 Smart and Mahle motors so I have a broad range to compare with. I also find the Polini to be quite economical. I have one small thing that I would like to see updated on it and that would be to have the bluetooth bike data (speed, power and cadence) available to other third party devices beside the phone app, for recording along with the route. That is the one (and only) thing that the Yamaha (Giant) does better than the Polini. I'm sure that a firmware update should fix it because if it can connect to a phone surely it can connect to a nav device too?
If you had to race xc trails, which motor would you choose? Brose/Bosch/Pollini? Any experience with the dyname 4.0?
Polini needs to work on the production numbers for this motor and invest in a much more automated production process. The current motors are pretty much hand build. If the production output would be increased a hundredfold, also mainstream brands would / could be interested in using it.
ahh, the chicken or the egg?
Yes but also isnt it refreshing to have something that isnt mass produced, so that someone can have a bike that isnt just the same as everyone elses, individuality seems to have decreased a bit over recent years, then it gives a chance to the boutique manufacturers instead of the big players just running everything. Years ago we used to have a road bike hand built with all of our own personal geometry in the frame design, and that was quite normal.
let's see how reliable the motor is
The original EP3 is already more then 6 year old. The new versions are a tad more powerful, but nothing world shocking. The original motor is praised for its reliability because it is pretty much bullet proof. However, the motor is not foolproof: washing the motor with high pressure power washer will kill it in the medium to long run.