Went through this starter 3x working on a 87 9.9. Found it easier to reinstall by taking the handle off as the rope kept getting in the way. Good tip lining up the flywheel notch and marking the starter. Also, interesting that people think adjusting the throttle cam screw will help with low idle. It only works for high speed wide open throttle adjustment of the butterfly.
FIRST ROUND KNOCKOUT ! I had one old motor and the threads were stripped for the starter bolt, so i tried tapping it out and use a heli coil , it worked, except I was about 2 hairs off center with a slight tilt, hahaha, screwed up the whole thing. I remember cringing as I adjusted that dang cam screw, but I got lucky!
I had the same Problem - with the 'starter bolt ' the threads in the aluminium BLOCK were rung I was going to go down the 'Heli-Coil' route - BUT , I discovered that the 'Bolt' if the bottom part had longer threads, that there was sufficient threads withing the Block to accept the Longer Threads .. 0318936 - Screw, Starter to Manifold So - I made a BOLT with a longer threaded bottom section .. It worked a threat ..
I got a run away throttle, she just goes till you think it might blow up, some people say stuck carb, float or throttle and I ain’t got a clue, might just start taking it apart and see what I find
hey @kodibass they have discontinued this part and i can no longer purchase this for my motor and sadly mine is broken..... do you have an alternative to for this???? i would truly appreciate it.
Hi mate thanks for this vid helps heaps what I do want to know is I have a 1984 15hp electric start tiller and it's almost as if the lobe doesn't come all way around enough to open the butterfly up full throttle compleatly where should I be looking at to fix that as there is a good amount of top end throttle not being used is this normal
Ok first take off the air box plastic silencer, Then rotate your tiller & look inside the carb @ the butterfly is it open to the horizontal position? That is where to start. kb
+Dave Middleditch, No not likely to cause those issues, just look at the piece of plastic in question in the video & then inspect yours to see if it is broke. kodi
I a new subscriber learned on a lot thank you I have one question I have a 15 horse Evinrude with problems with no spark for cylinder compression 55 in each cylinder needless to say it was a motor given to me so no loss either way what do you think the motor will run with that kind of compression thank you John
Hey John. Wow I'm just now getting your comment and a few others. I guess youtube can't keep up with it all. Anyway yeah 55 is pretty low. Did you rebuild it? Just curious. Thanks again for tuning in!
+AB, up under the mag plate is a nylon friction ring, over time the greas gets old and hard, & salty if used in saltwater, pull the flywheel remove the mag plate, and friction ring, clean re grease with moly grease & reassemble. kodi
Hi . Like the video. The same thing happened to my 15 horse Johnson 1989. Can you please tell me what that plastic cam piece that broke name of the part, also the red arm that stops you from starting in gear mine broke off , and one more lol, the little roller that runs over the plastic cam piece on the roller there is a plastic piece that goes around that part that rolles over the cam. Mine was old and just fell apart its plastic also . Please tell me the name of these three parts and where i might find the parts to buy . Thank you so much a beginner at this stuff lol
Good video yanks for that. Did you do a video on the correct adjustment of the CAM roller screw? And also what tool is used to adjust the CAM roller screw - I have tried metric hex imperial hex and torx and none of them fit- is it a special Johnson tool ?
+HM, I do not know the size but I have the OMC part # it is 327622 ball head hex driver I will show it in my next video, Maybe a subscriber will know the size & help us out. kodi
I have a 91 johnson 9.9. It looks like someone has ground down the cam plate on the low idle side. Could this be to increase travel to try to get more top end power? I'm gonna replace it. It was overstroking so far it stripped out the cam roller screw hole. I locktighted back in and loosened the cam plate screw but now I think my timing adjustment is off im lagging at full throttle and don't have any power? Any advice?
Hello iv a 4.5 hp Johnson . When I pull the pull start it most times don’t catch . Have you any idea . The rope pulls out and retracts . Thanks for the vids p uk
Thanks for showing helpful hints. Have you ever seen 92 15 hp Johnson where you have to tap the kill button to get it to fire. Doesn’t happen every time
Hello Kodibass, after the winterperiod I wanted to start up my 15 hp evinrude 1983. unfortunately no start. I checked and it had no spark. I disconnected the stopping button but still no spark. Do you have any idea. Can it be the electronic box.?
my little orange save you from yourself so you cant start it in gear is not being held where its supposed to be, the spring looks loose, not sure whats going on,, no matter if in neutral or not when I pull the pull cord, the orange piece locks the starter pawl..
Yeh' I'm a dufus when it comes to camera attention, Sorry, I have a cpl other videos of the same basic repair, don't ask me what I titled them tho. kodi
+AVH , when the mag cam plate is @ its full open sometime the butterfly in the carb will go past full horizontal level, this screw will allow you to back of so the butterfly is @ level inside the carb throat kodi
+cocaineKidUSA, If you have the parts ( spare junker motor ) Not hard at all) It is all about parts Availability ,, If you got'm Your good to Go... kodi
My 9.9 Johnson while not stay at a 3mph troll. It settles down to 2mph. Constantly having to feather the throttle up to 3mph. And yes goes back to 2. Grrrrr! What must i adjust to achieve the constant 3 mph?
+Rick Gurule, Does your motor have the troll"" adjustment knob on the port side of the motor ? It is this mechanical set up that was put in place to allow you to set "" EXACT'' Troll speeds, My King Salmon fisherman pay top Dollar to have this """ omc "" option ,,, Available on the 9.9 / 15 HP evinrude / Johnson motors that I sell during the King Salmon Season They ""DEMAND "" It, anything less is Hummpy Fishing,,, Not Good for a Outboard guy, trying to sell ,,,, Kickers........ kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards Why yes it does! It is very stiff though. Hardly does anything as far I can tell. Explain please how it actually works. And yes I need this working for trolling 360 style dodgers for "kings"
+Rick Gurule, Many options available, If it were mine I would add the optional Throttle resistance clamp, It does what it sounds like,,, it is a simple plastic ring that clamps around the tiller throttle handle & by adjusting the wing-nut you can set the throttle where ever you like and tighten to hold that speed, cheep , effective , & simple to install, If you would like the part # I can get that for you. kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards yes please on the part number. I would like if possible for you to explain this low throttle works. It is attched to a plastic or teflon part. That apparently does nothing. I would to show you a pic. The reply option here does no offer a pic opinion. If you have a email addy. I can send the pic to you.
+Mike Hunt, It would have made it a bit easier , But not to much cause of the Mag plate, & wanted to show its a pickle but quite doable , also did not want folks to think you need the flywheel removed just to work on the starter. kodi
Real nice camera shots of the back of your hand and nice shots of you're elbow too when U were hook n up the carb. butter fly. I know that camera placement is the key to a good a video even for professional the dreaded word "Cut!! " followed by dreaded words. "Take 23". However your video is important for the fact that you trouble shoot the problem.
Your camera isn't the issue. Your tripod is one, your reaching in front of it is two. Your pointing to things that aren't in frame is three. Hate to be disrespectful, but you're supposed to be teaching, yet have little knowledge of the creation of the videos process.
+DM , Never has anyone been so spot on CORRECT, I suck @ the whole video aspect, Thankyou for your comments' No disrespect taken when someone is both honest & correct kodibass
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Went through this starter 3x working on a 87 9.9. Found it easier to reinstall by taking the handle off as the rope kept getting in the way. Good tip lining up the flywheel notch and marking the starter. Also, interesting that people think adjusting the throttle cam screw will help with low idle. It only works for high speed wide open throttle adjustment of the butterfly.
The bean counters love to use plastic instead of good old aluminum don’t they 👍🏻🤘🏻
FIRST ROUND KNOCKOUT ! I had one old motor and the threads were stripped for the starter bolt, so i tried tapping it out and use a heli coil , it worked, except I was about 2 hairs off center with a slight tilt, hahaha, screwed up the whole thing. I remember cringing as I adjusted that dang cam screw, but I got lucky!
I had the same Problem - with the 'starter bolt ' the threads in the aluminium BLOCK were rung
I was going to go down the 'Heli-Coil' route - BUT , I discovered that the 'Bolt' if the bottom part had longer threads, that there was sufficient threads withing the Block to accept the Longer Threads ..
0318936 - Screw, Starter to Manifold
So - I made a BOLT with a longer threaded bottom section .. It worked a threat ..
@@peterpauldonoghue7024 👍
keep up the great videos you have been a great help
Hi!!! Do you have a video explaining the mechanism that prevent the engine to start (pulling the cord) when gear is not in neutral? (Yamaha)? Thanks
Yes I 4 sure Do , However I cannot remember what I would have titled it. Sorry I am trying to get better at doing that. thanks KB
My Evinrude is setup the same way but when I twist the throttle the plastic cam is actually moving away from the carburetor
Thanks for all your help!
Great shot of your elbow, very illuminating!
+CM, thank U for the feedback' & 4 watching. kodi
I got a run away throttle, she just goes till you think it might blow up, some people say stuck carb, float or throttle and I ain’t got a clue, might just start taking it apart and see what I find
look at the position of the cam roller. kb
She’s sucking air from a seal ! It’s gonna burn the cylinders then running lean !
Good video but if you put the starter on before the flywheel you can save one heck of a Hasell.
As long as they R the same year, yes kodi
👍🏻💪🏻thanku for the info
I have the same problem 15 hp were Can I get a new one and what is it called Thank you!
+GW' Cam throttle & screw assembly, P/N 0396740 $17.00 @ Boats.net kodi
hey @kodibass they have discontinued this part and i can no longer purchase this for my motor and sadly mine is broken..... do you have an alternative to for this???? i would truly appreciate it.
I looked on the website BOATS.NET 1989 Johnson 15 HP, then click on ignition scroll down to # 43 available for $17.47 + shipping
@@kodibassInsideoutboards thanks a bilion brother saved me so much pain and troubles
Пожалуйста подскажите Johnson 2000 года выпуска 15 . 4 такта двигатель??????
Thanks this is my problem, is the 9.9 and 15 same part no??
Hi mate thanks for this vid helps heaps what I do want to know is I have a 1984 15hp electric start tiller and it's almost as if the lobe doesn't come all way around enough to open the butterfly up full throttle compleatly where should I be looking at to fix that as there is a good amount of top end throttle not being used is this normal
Ok first take off the air box plastic silencer, Then rotate your tiller & look inside the carb @ the butterfly is it open to the horizontal position? That is where to start. kb
@@kodibassInsideoutboards nah it's not mate checked that and the pushed the carb butterfly linkage and it has a good 5m of more throttle to wot
Will this issue make it hard to start in neutral, and result in surging/dropping of rom at WOT?
+Dave Middleditch, No not likely to cause those issues, just look at the piece of plastic in question in the video & then inspect yours to see if it is broke. kodi
Why are AC spark plugs so horrible for your two stokes motors thanks for the videos great info keep on making them
Hey. wow just got your comment from a year ago! wow. I don't know ! Hahaha
I a new subscriber learned on a lot thank you I have one question I have a 15 horse Evinrude with problems with no spark for cylinder compression 55 in each cylinder needless to say it was a motor given to me so no loss either way what do you think the motor will run with that kind of compression thank you John
Hey John. Wow I'm just now getting your comment and a few others. I guess youtube can't keep up with it all. Anyway yeah 55 is pretty low. Did you rebuild it? Just curious. Thanks again for tuning in!
What causes the Mag Plate to not move? Have no throttle action... finally determined the plate is not moving.
+AB, up under the mag plate is a nylon friction ring, over time the greas gets old and hard, & salty if used in saltwater,
pull the flywheel remove the mag plate, and friction ring, clean re grease with moly grease & reassemble. kodi
Hi . Like the video. The same thing happened to my 15 horse Johnson 1989. Can you please tell me what that plastic cam piece that broke name of the part, also the red arm that stops you from starting in gear mine broke off , and one more lol, the little roller that runs over the plastic cam piece on the roller there is a plastic piece that goes around that part that rolles over the cam. Mine was old and just fell apart its plastic also . Please tell me the name of these three parts and where i might find the parts to buy . Thank you so much a beginner at this stuff lol
Where do I find these parts
Good video yanks for that. Did you do a video on the correct adjustment of the CAM roller screw? And also what tool is used to adjust the CAM roller screw - I have tried metric hex imperial hex and torx and none of them fit- is it a special Johnson tool ?
+HM, I do not know the size but I have the OMC part # it is 327622 ball head hex driver I will show it in my next video, Maybe a subscriber will know the size & help us out. kodi
i used a T15 Bit (( Torx/Star ))
Great video! My plastic ramp is broken too. What is the minimum things I have to remove to replace this plastic piece?
Wow. I just got your comment from 2 years ago! I guess you figured it out! Thanks for tuning in!
I have a 91 johnson 9.9. It looks like someone has ground down the cam plate on the low idle side. Could this be to increase travel to try to get more top end power? I'm gonna replace it. It was overstroking so far it stripped out the cam roller screw hole. I locktighted back in and loosened the cam plate screw but now I think my timing adjustment is off im lagging at full throttle and don't have any power? Any advice?
Most likely your butterfly is advancing past level @ wot, kodi
Can you show how to hold the flywheel down when your torque itnin w video thanks
I usually start it with a cordless impact with A 3/4 socket the things suck to fix
Hello iv a 4.5 hp Johnson . When I pull the pull start it most times don’t catch . Have you any idea . The rope pulls out and retracts . Thanks for the vids p uk
the spring or metal peice that wraps raround the gear that goes into the flywheel. replace it
Are you in Florida by any chance? Got some motors I would like to see a f you can check them and help me out
Thanks for showing helpful hints. Have you ever seen 92 15 hp Johnson where you have to tap the kill button to get it to fire. Doesn’t happen every time
+BB, yes seen it often, replace the switch, they r cheap plastic junk, kodi
Hello Kodibass, after the winterperiod I wanted to start up my 15 hp evinrude 1983. unfortunately no start. I checked and it had no spark. I disconnected the stopping button but still no spark. Do you have any idea. Can it be the electronic box.?
my little orange save you from yourself so you cant start it in gear is not being held where its supposed to be, the spring looks loose, not sure whats going on,, no matter if in neutral or not when I pull the pull cord, the orange piece locks the starter pawl..
I did a carb rebuild and was muscling that darn pull start and snapped my cam roller assy. Ugh. Hate when I do dumb stuff that cost me money!
+Wish2fish, Yep them pan starters are a hand-full, got to go slow and you need 3 extra fingers to boot, kodi
What's the name of the plastic piece so I can order one.. no one knows the name or part number at West Marine?
+T H, its called , throttle cam & screw assembly Part # 0396740
approx cost around $15.00 kodi
Cant see what your doing. Your right arm and shoulder was in the way the whole time???????
Yeh' I'm a dufus when it comes to camera attention, Sorry, I have a cpl other videos of the same basic repair, don't ask me what I titled them tho. kodi
What the heck is the purpose of that screw other than breaking the cam all the time?
+AVH , when the mag cam plate is @ its full open sometime the butterfly in the carb will go past full horizontal level, this screw will allow you to back of so the butterfly is @ level inside the carb throat kodi
Howdy :() Is it hard to convert a 1973 40hp Evinrude from remote control to tiller handle ??
+cocaineKidUSA, If you have the parts ( spare junker motor ) Not hard at all) It is all about parts Availability ,, If you got'm Your good to Go... kodi
What parts i need ?
+CocaineKidUSA you would need the transom bracket top handle , tiller handle with throttle rods sprockets and grip. kodi
My 9.9 Johnson while not stay at a 3mph troll. It settles down to 2mph. Constantly having to feather the throttle up to 3mph. And yes goes back to 2. Grrrrr! What must i adjust to achieve the constant 3 mph?
+Rick Gurule, Does your motor have the troll"" adjustment knob on the port side of the motor ? It is this mechanical set up that was put in place to allow you to set "" EXACT'' Troll speeds, My King Salmon fisherman pay top Dollar to have this """ omc "" option ,,, Available on the 9.9 / 15 HP evinrude / Johnson motors that I sell during the King Salmon Season They ""DEMAND "" It, anything less is Hummpy Fishing,,, Not Good for a Outboard guy, trying to sell ,,,, Kickers........ kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards Why yes it does! It is very stiff though. Hardly does anything as far I can tell. Explain please how it actually works.
And yes I need this working for trolling 360 style dodgers for "kings"
+Rick Gurule, Many options available, If it were mine I would add the optional Throttle resistance clamp, It does what it sounds like,,, it is a simple plastic ring that clamps around the tiller throttle handle & by adjusting the wing-nut you can set the throttle where ever you like and tighten to hold that speed, cheep , effective , & simple to install, If you would like the part # I can get that for you.
kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards yes please on the part number. I would like if possible for you to explain this low throttle works. It is attched to a plastic or teflon part. That apparently does nothing. I would to show you a pic. The reply option here does no offer a pic opinion. If you have a email addy. I can send the pic to you.
I have searched TH-cam for any help on this low idle adjustment. There is only one. How to replace a broken L.I.A.
Why not put the starter assembly in before you put the flywheel on?
+Mike Hunt, It would have made it a bit easier , But not to much cause of the Mag plate, & wanted to show its a pickle but quite doable , also did not want folks to think you need the flywheel removed just to work on the starter. kodi
The flywheel on my ‘79 doesn’t have the notch, so I guess I’ll have to pull it when I redo my carb next week. Poor baby doesn’t want to idle.
Clear precise video how to..
Can this be a common problem on a johnson 4hp or just 15hp???
+CY Yes, this can indeed B a issue on a 4 hp. kodi
All I see is elbows & arms.
Nope' If U look closer there is a portly old Geezer in there 2.. Thanks 4 watching & ur kind comment. kodibass
what cause a rope not to recoil in a 1985 Johnson 15 hp
+EP, most likely a broken recoil spring, kodi
kodibass I ordered a rebuilt one off EBay. Hopefully that’s what it is.
No wonder why I pay so much for a me mechanic they be taking stuff of they don’t off like damm
Real nice camera shots of the back of your hand and nice shots of you're elbow too when U were hook n up the carb. butter fly. I know that camera placement is the key to a good a video even for professional the dreaded word "Cut!! " followed by dreaded words. "Take 23". However your video is important for the fact that you trouble shoot the problem.
Thanks for the video, getting ready to dail in the 15. 《
Can I have that 15 hp carb lol I need one bad
Mercury motors are a lot easier to work on
Depends on the year, some of the mid 80's can be a buger. kodi
Your camera isn't the issue. Your tripod is one, your reaching in front of it is two. Your pointing to things that aren't in frame is three. Hate to be disrespectful, but you're supposed to be teaching, yet have little knowledge of the creation of the videos process.
+DM , Never has anyone been so spot on CORRECT, I suck @ the whole video aspect, Thankyou for your comments'
No disrespect taken when someone is both honest & correct
kodibass
Poor lighting. Invest in some light bulbs
hallo
+ABDULKADER BAAG, Hi' thank you for watching hope you enjoy! Kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards Hallo how can i find this plastic part or what is it called or can you put a link that we can buy it online.
@@abdulkaderbaag5942 Part # 0396740 throttle cam & screw assembly , available @ boats.net, or Iboats.com
kodi
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