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Comedian and football presenter Lloyd Griffith embarks on an experiment to find out if he can uncover the secrets of gambling success and the truth about the industry. Armed with some cash and a dangerously small amount of gambling nous, Lloyd attempts to double his money, taking tips from professional gamblers who share their secrets, and academics who think they’ve exposed the tricks of the trade and uncovered a way to make a living from gambling.
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The bookies have been robbing poor people for years, so in my opinion if your scamming bookies you're a legend
@DF AMO doesn't help with 5 bookies on every main road in pretty much all deprived areas 😕
The people they rob are stupid, not necessarily poor
Betting is a tax on the poor
fact
@@bennathan7353 generally both ... These guys are clever and oviously have another ace up there sleeve
There's always that one idiot that has to let out the secret just to get on television, isn't there?
Beede Bawng they have been well aware of it for ages
@@RA-qq8nf no
Mate, I wouldn’t worry. The other way of winning money 100% of the time (guaranteed) has been ‘out the bag’ for years (I’m sure you’re aware of it 😉), but it’s still happening & people are still blown-away when they learn about it. The great thing is, although Bookies frown upon it, there’s very little they can do about it 😂
It’s always a nice feeling when you can screw-over the Bookies though LOL Happy Days!! 😍😂👏🏻
@@RickHignett care to share? Haha
@@Gull32 thought that was it! But then doubted myself thinking there was something more aha
"Why are they confessing?"
"They're not - they're bragging."
Albert Feynman big short
A man of culture 🍷
@@elguima 😂👌
big short
@@elguima no a man of honour you will be dealt with accordingly Caio baby
I approve of this 100%. Anyone who shafts the gambling companies is a genius in my world.
Your approval means a lot mate
I agree
He's far from a genius, he's just given away how he scams them and put his face up 😂
@SteveMeek you morally bankrupt shrew.
@@SteveMeek u say that like gambling companies dont scam
I worked in a bookies if you win to much you get banned! But if you lose to much you get a VIP pass.
thats why he buys peoples accounts and spreads the winnings across 100s of accounts to go undetected brah
@@anthonycarlin3452 yeh thats the way forward stil
I don't believe they ban you unless you're regularly winning thousands. The fact they're even allowed to ban you for no breach of the rules is disgraceful anyway. Probably better to use the shops as opposed to online.
@@elastronaute1198 do they ever not pay your winnings even with a ban?
@@XaphillyatedX no they will always pay winnings of bets placed before you're banned/restricted. Along with paying back the balance of the account back to the registered payment source if the account is completely closed, in my experience.
This guy is a genius, doing this is no longer worth it so he’s cashed in his secret to the BBC to earn even more
you can still do it on other markets .
This guy wasnt the only one doing this , its been done for years. It called courtisding there have been newspaper reports before in this topic. The big event have people keeping an eye on courtsiding
sam taylor
I know lots of other people have done this, which is why he’s so smart to sell his tactic before anyone else
This is a well-known scam, it happens in cricket too.
@@kornelfarkas6224 Such as ?
I have no sympathy for bookies at all. Scam them all you like, the more the better since that’s what they do all day
How do bookies scam you?
you know the rules, they know the rules.
Depending on the game, you know the odds, they know the odds.
There is no scam, just you being bad at math... and in live games like this, bookies being bad at locking out bets on time..
@@MoonLiteNite disagree to be honest because the bookies are pretty predatory about making people gamble.
Gambling is a fools game. If you gamble, it's your own fault.
I work in a bookies, want to explain how allowing people to come in of there own free will, choose an event, a time, runner and then choosing how much to lay and choosing to accept the odds offered is scamming? LOL its like saying Tesco is scamming people by selling beans 10p dearer than aldi, if people choose to enter the store and choose that product at that price its not a scam.
There not scamming anyone, everyone knows the risk.
He's selling his secret because the market is saturated with court siders and probably isn't lucrative enough anymore. Bookies are probably quick to suspend accounts too these days. He says you can't do Europe for that reason. It's great to see someone getting one over on the bookies though!
More likely because it's simple to fix, just void all bets that took place after a certain time.
@@KiLLJoYTH-cam the problem they have are slow umpires who take to long to record the score, is used to be done with horse racing a lot and delay with servers across the world. But if you placed constant bets 1 second before the point is called they will just suspend your account, take your money and say your were cheating. They have spent millions on bots to record and catch these people. Would only work on matched betting and im not sure if they do points, or enough people bet to cover your money on a point by point basis.
@@KiLLJoYTH-cam They cant void the bets, not how it works.
@@KiLLJoYTH-cam That would be illegal.
@@-music2023 no they cant, it's a contract, they cant just void bets.
Bookies deserve it they’ve been doing folk for years
@Jon Cocks Think he means how they take advantage of people, whether they be drunk or in a bad way they will let them lose, but as soon as they win they kick them out. It's a shit system and they're allowed to get away with it.
@Jon Cocks I understand most are chasing a win they will never get, but I come from quite a down place and seen many of people fall into it. I guess I just have an emotional way of looking at it... I do understand your point tho and I agree, people also do have to take some responsibility.
K43mc victimless crime
The bookies didn't do anything, people choose to gamble their money
Most I know do rap
Jack Black interviews Vibrating Bloke.
Best comment ever hahahaha
Defo got a vibrator up he’s arse
h 2 ha hahaha brilliant
Thats absolutely brilliant hahahahahah
Actually 😂
Tv show host quits job and immediately goes into business with that guy 😂😂
Paul Tougher your mother is a clown, OK?
Noir your English is not so good
Well done to your mum Paul, getting recognition for a woman in such a male dominated industry must be applauded
He’s not fast enough so keep the job
Probably best to watch the whole TV show
The "Host" was actually a comedian who did some TV ads for a betting chain, got alot of flak from his mate who turned out to have had gambling problems earlier in his life.
The show shows the bookies to be two-faced (no surprise!) by luring in casual betters who will invariably lose whilst suspending/cancelling accounts for those individuals who show they know what they're doing ....
I was a manager for a bookies in the UK, a famous house hold bookies, one day on a busy Saturday afternoon we had a call from security saying we needed to ask the person on the FOBT (betting machines) to leave, don't tell him why, just he has to leave.. (security monitor FOBT machines, store cameras and listening devices remotely.) thought it was odd but did it anyway... The guy, without saying a word, just left, I was expecting an argument obviously. Turns out the was a hack for one of the games that would always guarantee hitting a win. Organised criminals found the hack and sold it to people that use to travel the county farming Bookies for thousands of pounds.
Cool story got anymore?
I would need paying 300k a year to watch tennis court side as well
Hahaha
Hand Solo speed, look at him shaking like a leaf
In Uganda no less. 😂
He hates the bookies so much he makes sure they know about how they're being scammed
courtsiding is not new, it has been known for years
Totally agree. Gambling firms ruin the lives of millions upon million of people.
Wrong, no one forces them to bet
I think you'll find it's the gamblers that ruin their own lives!
@@CaesarP Very nice of you to victim blame them.
@@hedgehog11953 i agree with him. No one force them to bet. I gambler too but very piss off some dumb ass play with the money that they cant affor of play some stupid game with stupid play that he don't have edge then lose it all. Everyone scare for me that someday i will one of them like wtf. I gambler with money i can afford, i bet with the game i really know, play poker, never play baccrat or routlllet. Still winning and when i spend time to play someone warning me or feel i ruin my life. Very anoy
Anything that costs gambling companies millions can only be a good thing.
Very similar to the old system for gambling on snooker, but now it has changed. You can still bet on individual frames but the bet has to be placed before it starts in the real time, this has actually been great for the integrity of the game as there is drastically less match fixing. You used to be able to put large sums of money on a player who's opponent has just missed a shot and left them on and easy for a certain clearance and the odds would only change when the balls had completely stopped moving. Unfortunately for the punters, it's a thing of the past.
Great for the "integrity of the game...LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This comment aged particularly well, Ben! :p
damn what a live loophole , bring it back😮💨
fast forward 1 month: interviewer is a gambling addict
😂
i saw that too, crazy
@@stephenablett3080 Is he actually?
I love how you can hear people playing tennis in the bk during the phone call loool
"FAULT!"
Well I'm 31 years old, and when I grow up, I want to be a Courtsider.
So... Are you a grown up after an year ?I'm really curious
You’re late)))
Many lads in the comments seem more obsessed with the mans appearance than his ability to think outside the box. Perfect analogy for todays modern society.
Millenials.
They’ve known about it for years but they can’t exactly regulate a crowd at a match full of thousands of people
Miami Dice yeah that and he’s copied it anyway
Spot on. He even says he grew his hair specifically to hide the Bluetooth device
Shaman 966 not one comment about his appearance but you keep chasing that clout
As someone who loves a gamble, this was amazing to watch
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@@omajianthony1551 lies
That william hill account would have been closed by the 3rd bet
“I hate the bookmakers...I was addicted to roulette so yeah” nice
expected to see fenners in his stoney in the background somewhere
Absolutely amazing!!
I never realised tennis umpires press buttons and control the scoreboard themselves. Because say in snooker, the referee just calls the score and there must be someone at the side pressing the buttons on the computer. I thought tennis would be the same lol
If the guy making the bets was as smart as the guy courtsiding he would put down the phone that's on loudspeaker to free up both hands 💀
If you were smart you'd realize this was the interviewer trying it for the first time. He's real partner is probably way better.
he was holding phone close to his mic... for tv...
£350.000 a year is far better then 15 minutes of fame!!!!
Peter benn pan madness isn’t it
He’s probably already banned mate, and they can’t really do anything about it can they
@@KrazedAspects Doesn't matter if he's banned. He uses other peoples accounts
@@JohnSmith-su3ze from the courts G
@@JumpzVidz Thanks bra
Is this BBC or VICE? I really enjoyed this!!
BBC just take one look
Absolute legend. Hero.
About the only worthwhile BBC program I believe I have seen!
why does my man speak like he is permanently petrified?
Dom Travers I thought that, or maybe he is really cold!🤣
NZT side effects...
alcohol withdrawals from the look
Ever been interviewed for TV with a camera and mic at your face?
Cocaine and hookers
I don't even hardly bet and i feel pissed off at this guy for telling THE WORLD!
It wasnt a secret
I quite like that dude. A middle finger up at those who exploited him.
2:50 "Me and my BUSINESS PARTNER" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The title sounds like one of those ads that pop up on basic websites and take you to a page with a slideshow on it
I hate those sites
is it me or is he shaking like crazy ?
I know right, hopefully he's just nervous or cold otherwise he could be seriously ill
Shakin' shakin' shakin' shakin' shakin'. Shakin' like a Polaroid peekchaaaah. 🎶
@@mkprocter882 Addicts tend to twitch a lot, even those addicted to things that aren't drugs
Its because hes anxious. I get social anxiety and feel like that but not as bad as him, but i would bet thats from anxiety
@@glenalden3288 me too!
Good on these guys for exploiting this loophole and making lots of money!
I was a courtsider a few years ago( at the game with the headset calling out the points). Did a few basketball games in the British Basketball League. I never really understood what the information being passed was being used for nor was i ever told. Now it makes sense. I was making £25 a game, which I thought wasn't bad at the time. Looking back, I was obviously being a bit short changed!
How did you do basketball? Like what did you bet on
@@eprep9745 I didn't do the betting part so im not sure, I just called out the points as the ball went into the basket eg. 2 points Team A, or 3 points Team A... whoever was on the end of the line must have taken that exact bet and taken advantage of the slight scoreboard delay, like shown in this video.
@@localfox1000 that’s cool asf 🤣🤣🤣 how much did u make
imagine what the big time syndicates are making in games like that
Gambling companies haven't lost critical sums.
these days
punter: I won £200!
bookie: your account has been banned
Or Punter wins 2k
Bookies : Please prove SOW or we won't pay you
many years ago, got my bets delayed by a betting company as they were probably suspicious ......so my betting time went from 3 seconds to 15 seconds !!! I jumped from £250 to nearly £4000 within 2 months ! all i was doing was watching football games live and bet when I felt a goal would more likely to happen. Some of my bets got right sometimes within 1 or 2 seconds of my bet. I was not doing anything wrong but because i was a winner they wanted to cheat me !!! I made one complaint to them about one bet they canceled then they suspended my account !!! small betting companies are cheating their clients !!! but they are very happy to take from big losers !!! of course gambling commissions are closing the blind eye on what is happening !!!
This guy is a legend! And he's right about the bookies!
YOU ARE BLAMING THE DRUG DEALER BECAUSE YOU ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS.??? STUPID
Buil Dinit wouldn’t of gambled if it weren’t for gambling companies 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@@buildinit6523 completely sensible, that is why drug dealing is illegal or restricted everywhere...
That rush he just got at the end...... .
That's the addiction right there
😂
It's a bit different if you've got a significant advantage over the house, and in this case, the risk is either winning the money or having the bet cancelled. You can't lose unless there was a mess up in communication.
Yep, but it's all the bookies fault that these morons can't control their own habits and addictions....
I'd like to hear a decent explanation of why Betfair leave (non-VAR) games suspended so long after a goal is scored. There have been a bunch of Leeds games this season where they've supsended it for 4 minutes !
Lloyd definetely went home and started doing this as a bussiness with his mates
Great...
Just when things were looking good for me.
How much did u win?
Hhhhhhhh
I know right and I thought turning £10 into 200 in 4 days on the football was good
@@user-op6kt8pg9y it is good
I love it. Bookmakers literally ruin lives. There is no morality amongst any of them. Yeah staff might feel sorry for you now and again but they don't care really. You can literally lose everything. Not just all your money. But the people around you. Your values. Your soul.
I really love this video where there's nothing illegal about it. And they have just outsmarted the gambling firms.
No, you ruin your own lives because your all addicts and don't know when to stop. I'm a bookmaker and there's nothing funnier than pathetic idiots like you who can't control your own habits so blame it on us and the "magic button" you freaks think we have under the desk. So stop spending your life blaming everyone else for your own failures. Moron
I think you'll find it's the gamblers that ruin their own lives!
@@keltiquewood I think you'll find that sharks prey on the weak.
@@mukesh.dhimar Yep - and weak shudda stayed outta the water!
@@keltiquewood yeah well I'm a Pisces
A mate of mine would go in the bookies and write out a load of slips for first goal scorer, 1 ear bud connected to a tiny radio. He would get the first scorer put the bet on before the bookies had a chance to update the system. But it didn't take long for them to catch on.
Cheers this will also work at golf tournaments as well
My guy was tremblingggg
7:49 who else’s heart dropped when u saw it say 43 quid
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Used to do this but by watching via analogue, bookies used digital, which was a few seconds delayed 😂
Maybe they should have covered the lingo/terminology in person before hand.
I was thinking that, lol thought that's why they were at the tennis courts to practice
It only takes the first 2/3 bets on a new bookies account for them to realise you know what you are doing, your max bet is then restricted to £0.20 (they don’t close your account as they hope you will lose all your money on their casino) stuff like this works in theory but good luck trying to pulling it off.
Stuff like this only works in theory, except for the bit in the video where they win thousands of pounds.
It worked here, but imagine the level of commitment you’d need to be successful. The guy even said how much he spends in expenses just travelling round trying to find the right game/umpire.
I like how he called him his 'business partner'
This dude just blew the operation for them all 👏👏👏
Bookies in town use to have a slow clock years ago I was minted for a week 😂
This is brilliant. Really wish it wasn't as much hassle though as I would have a new career 😂
I assume they had this set up for publication, but waited until the bookies realized the loophole and fixed it, and then published it(after a huge profit).
They’ve know about it for a long time the profit they make from point betting outweighs the money they lose. But with more people knowing about it profit will certainty go down but they will still be in the Ups from point betting
The phone has a function called speaker. That will allow you to use your other hand too. Just a tip 😉
In tennis the odds of a player breaking a set are way lower then the server holding a point so if a player goes up 40-15 on the break the odds will be decent if you bet on the person who has 40 in the game since they are not the person serving and can easily still lose the point. These guys are betting on the person who is up 40-30 40-15 40-0 etc the moment they win the game before the person umping can transmit the point.
Why would you tell everyone?
Shearing the wealth??
@@jaygreen5743 No, it's an outdated technique
it's not working anymore because betting companies knew it and change the app or web technique
Moment of silence to all the punters who are trying to find the loophole after 2M views.
I’ve just checkt with some bookmakers and all I could find was betting on the point AFTER the next. Does that depend on the match, the bookmakers or on something else? Or has it even been suspended completely?
The term for this old school technique is called "Front Running".
Since the early 1900 in the shares stocks market.
Today it still happens with big trading exchanges, digitally in milli-seconds up to nano-seconds.
Yup.
Still legal.
Adds cost to trades , no value added.
The government seems to think it’s great
FOREX
If this was football and a goal gets in
Him: Stakes £1000
VAR: Am I a joke to you?
Redhurt haha true VAR will show you flames😀
Our friendly umpire took a year and day to press the point button 😂😂
In Australia , we have to call the bookmaker to place a live bet ? Which takes atleast 5-30seconds , therefore gives them time to be up to speed with any time delays
@clive muchoki I’m interested
That is sick thank you lads
Odds on the bloke being found face down in a river?
About the same as the odds of his ‘bets’ winning him rupees
2/7
Bookies will be like: "You lost your bet because he was found face UP in the river".
This is crazy. Umpires could make so much by “fixing” games by not putting the score in quickly on certain points
im pretty sure when it comes to cashing out, these bookies will just hold the winnings..... theyll have flags set up, like when youre betting late and winning on 20 consecutive server win points 🤷🏾♂️ i worked in the gaming industry for a long time and they dont like paying out 😂
@@vendettarisingthats why he likely mentioned massive costs. They likely have to pepper heaps of bets around "fairly" on other points to and lose some on that edge.
Then also likely set up new accounts ti be cashed out to.
You're right, betting companies will look for any clause to not pay out.
Impressive... i wish i could learn the trick cause i hav no idea how he did it
Now we know why the VAR is very frowned upon in England. XD
That is actually mad
It doesn't work.
See you everywhere man
Deeprot I have a tracker on you
@@waynemarsh3771 facts
@@tonybroderick4808 why not
I do this all the time with local 4th and 5th division soccer in the US. Sometime the odds are super screwed up as well.
Hello bro
Felipe lets work I use crypto betting so can stake upto $10k a bet. split profits 50/50
@@shedfed5015 I can work with you
@@vasylpylypchynets617 how to contact?
You could probably input the data faster on the laptop if you weren't holding a cell phone in your left hand?
You have to have a lot of accounts open for this in the long run - you will soon be getting "we have made a business decision to close your account" emails or, more commonly, find that once you login the max bet on any particular slip is very low.
Hate the bookies and THIS GUY!!!
what a legend
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I have a Greek mate whose father made a killing doing this in Greece with television delays back in the day!
Ballingers Ballers what exactly did he do?
Story time pls
????
^👮👮👮 👮^
@@ygbh5934 who me lool???
This is my favorite video on TH-cam. I used to scam bovada but they caught me after a month lmaoo
Another tip is some international basketball games are very easy to tell are being fixed. For example Philippines and Thailand leagues. Downside is that you will be limited very quick.
This is class. Hope the bookies continue to lose millions. The amount of vulnerable people they capitalize on is sick.
You ever heard of "matched betting" - betting on 2 different websites and taking the bonus sign up money winnings? You lose no money, get a fraction of the sign up bonus, and you are done. On to the next website. That's how you beat online bookies, make a couple of hundred pounds and dip. Easy money as a uni student.
This is old. People used to do it at horse races.
Nobody said it was new, he was just bringing it to the world's attention.
Amjid Curtis if it’s old and nothing new guessing lots of people are earning 350k a year 🤔
Ian Barrett surely can’t be that easy.
@@detailingshorts885 It can be that easy but there is still a risk no matter how much he claims there isn't. If bookies were to notice then they could just void his bets wiping out all his profit just leaving him with expenses to pay with no earnings from them. You'd also have to spend time mug betting to make sure your accounts stay active without any restrictions.
It was done in Roman times at chariot races, they brought swallows to the venue and tied a ribbon on their feet, blue or red for whichever chariot won, the swallow appeared back before the result of the race was brought back on horseback
They have 6-10 second delays on live bets most probably to prevent this
Legend!!!! Congrats
This guy's got the jitters. I wonder how many courtsiders are not a little miffed that he's let this secret out.
It was mever a secret. Courtsiding is old news. Just google it and you can even find videos from like 2010
He's cold
@@richardnowell7089 Ya I thought so too, but you can hear him quivering in Florida
He is just an anxious geeky guy. You can not read people very well.
BBC; please stop putting emojis in your title. You aren't 'down with the kids' so just stop because it's cringe worthy. Thanks.
from what ive heard though BBC are pretty much down with the kids ..
@@minusdagreez8817 ayyyyyy
This should be top comment.
Argh I so agree. They’re starting to use click bait in their dragons den titles as well. Makes me take them way less seriously
Soz dad! ☹️
I think with so much at stake, and the speed involved if I was on the mobile phone I would be keeping both hands free to operate the keyboard. Good to see someone beating the bookies though.
I feel this man I have been addicted to blackjack and roulette since I was 8/9 years old
If I openly admitted to stealing millions from gambling "companies" i'd be shaking also.
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So it’s not illegal it’s just playing the bookies at their own game and they don’t like it lol
why not turn on loudspeaker to have an extra hand and use a mouse to quickly place bets?
Absolute legend mate ! God damn you're clever !
I had an idea for a similar system years ago, only much more advanced. I started coding up some basic parts of it to see if it could work but got distracted and never got anywhere with it. If people are making a fortune with a couple of phones and someone actually manually clicking around on a website, to say I am hacked off is an understatement. It never occurred to me that such a basic system would work.
kryzon daan Do you want us to work together? You seem to an intelligent person to me. I’m in the United States, You?
well done admitting youre distracted dumbo lol some people are born to be losers
Tried it watching tv. Didn’t work. Down 3 mill
TV has a delayed, better do it on court.
Persistence is a good attribute....
@@kennedysan1045 Took your advice, now down 12 mill
I'm down 4 trillion
The title to this video has changed so many times. getting more and more gentle
No wonder Sportsbet in Australia we have to call in when it’s a live bet.