Guy was living the life. We went to the Great American Bash in 86. Not sure if it was planned or not, but my friend’s mother got us a room in the hotel that all the wrestler’s were staying at that night. The R&R Express was 2 doors down from us. Anyway, we get back from the Bash and my buddy and I are hanging out in the hotel lobby and the wrestlers are all down there coming in from the event. Long story short, Flair comes out of the hotel bar yelling, “whooooo”! Had a chic under each arm. Lol! No joke.
to be honest, it is a standard that holds some merit. the guys who werent drinking and partying were usually the guys that happened to be bad for business, like lex lugar or ultimate warrior
What is limited in wrestling? Someone who does 3 moves? At the end of the day, as a wrestler, you want to have a good match, but what is a good match? A match with about 10,000 spots with a roll up finish that gets no reaction at the end because the crowd are exhausted? Or a match with an awesome story which had the crowd sitting on the edge of their seats and a massive reaction at the end, but maybe one or two high spots that makes sense? Flair was a master at getting the crowd to react.
I think Flair definitely has a 12-15 minute match in his back pocket whenever he wants, but there are the Steamboat matches, some work with Piper, Sting...that are different, and that he deserves credit for.
anyone who can wrestle and win a world championship with a broken back like flair did deserves respect, vidflesh....the man is a true hard worker in an era right now, where everyone is afraid of breaking a nail....so do everyone a favor and get a life
Wahoo had a gimmick that was well wore out- the cowboy with the boots and the bell. If he had a little more imagination it might have been" The Macho Man Mc Daniels!" Little things mean a lot.
Watch Flair vs Steamboat at Music City Showdown in Nashville from the late spring of 1989, watch Flair wrestle Harley Race at the first Starrcade from 1983, and watch Flair vs. Terry Funk from the fall of 1989 in Troy, New York on The Clash Of Champions where they had their "I Quit Match" and then tell me it's the same match all 3 times. BTW, he was famous for being a "60 minute man" but none of those three matches is a sixty minute match even though he wrestled many, many 60 minute matches.
Yeah I'm 5 years late on this one but Ric Flair is the 60 Minute Man. I seen him wrestle for 50 55 minutes and a whole show for that night that he did was for 60 minutes. You can say what you want but there is no wrestler today that can do with Ric Flair did so put that in your pipe and smoke it
Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time. He had to work with a simple worf rame to make all the mediocre talent around him good. The matches with Rick Martel, Ricky Steamboat, Jack Veneno, Ron Garvin, and Carlos Colon, pure classics. The second best I saw, was Dory Funk Jr. Brett Heart was great as Tag team. Bruno Sammartino is on coach seat with Brett Heart.
He does bring up a very valid point, Cena is not the best worker but the guys a great performer. The same thing can be said of Hogan too. That's what just drives me nuts about most of us marks, most of us don't get that. lol
Most of the "fans" like him, the main people who hate him are guys jealous because their girlfriends like him, and wannabe smarks who boo him because it was the cool thing to do 3 years ago.
Ric Flair must of wanted to keep the wwe door open saying cena's unselfish. As a person cena seems nice but the guys never puts over anyone clean and you can be sure he playing politics to be at the top for as long as he has.
The Rock beat him clean Wm 28, Daniel bryan beat him clean at summer slam 2013 Brock lesnar has busted him open on multiple occasions in 2014 as clean as i have ever seen Brock made him look like a jobber.
Flair talks very well about Wrestling, You can tell he really knows his stuff. Not sure I agree with him on Cena but he makes a fair point. Bearing in mind this was 2008 I'd add Jericho to that list as an old school heel who could also have great matches. And though he was in TNA at that point I think Angle deserves to be talked about in that league. Maybe Kane too. I think WWE or someone should do a a DVD release on Wahoo McDaniel. I've not seen much of his stuff but always hear good things. Cornette was a big fan too.
@Shoooooooo81 If Flair were still wrestling right now, then I would agree with you. The established, old, respected guys of the industry are still valuable to the product at 60 years old so long as they're used properly. There is no greater endorsement to a young wrestler(from a spectator's perspective) than to have one of the big dogs in the industry at his corner. That's what the old guys should be used for.
Don't get me wrong, i respect the hell out of Ric. I read his biography a few years back, very eventful life. I was just commenting on the black eye mainly.
@SovereignStatesman A lot of wrestlers have had hard times, but there hasn't been anyone who has risen as high and then fallen as low as Flair. If anything, young wrestlers will see his story and start saving their money and making good business decisions.
Im currently watching Monday Nitro from the first episode im on Nitro 38 now. Hes 47, wrestling every monday and PPV's each month and putting on amazing matches. Its unbelievable the bumps he takes too.
I love Cena. I wish he'd actually sell a move once in a while but he's got a certain charisma to him you find hard to replicate, especially in this day and age. Though he's no Rock, he oozes charisma. As for Flair. I love the guy to bits and there's no denying what he's done for the business, but I wish he'd retire now. Its getting painful seeing him tear himself up in the ring and I worry he's going to push past his limit. Awesome interview
Ten years ago I would've said you're so right, he's not getting the reaction he's supposed to get. But, welcome to the 21st century kiddos. We are LONG passed the days of "heel" or "face". You can blame Austin and other "tweeners" for that and I for one am grateful. We live in a world where MARKS mean money, but SMARKS mean improving the quality of the product, which means MORE money. Cena gets a reaction, that's all he needs to do. "BOO" or "CHEER", it's a reaction and a that means money.
Good point. But its very speculative to say that even a popular mid-card talent ever draws money. To say that you draw money is to say people buy PPVs or tune in weekly specifically to see you. It doesn't mean that they just keep their TVs on when you are on, else a lot of people do. Few tag teams have ever been major draws outside of gimmick matches. Now, Steiners were big names, that's why they were paid money by promotions in Japan. But to say they ever really drew is, i think, wrong.
All Flair cares about is if guys go out and drink and party. If they don't do that, Flair doesn't think they care about the business. Cena is solid, I think the problem that most fans have with him is that his character has not changed one bit in like 5 years or so now. It needs to change.
Ok bud we get the point. I personally believe Savage was a better performer than Hogan also, but Hogan is and always will be a legend in wrestling, like it or not. I've made my point, you've made yours.
Flair was a great wrestler. His problem was he didn't know when to let go and quit wrestling. He wrestled until he was 63 years. As he quit wrestling for WWE.com at age 62. And then wrestled for a few for TNA wrestling and then quit permantly from wrestling. I think we can all say Rick Flair was one of the best wrestlers around. And that there are others just as good as Rick Flair was including Bret Hart etc.
Its the 4 disc one I have, but it's still not enough, Ha. yeah I agree he hols back about some things but there were so many subjects for him to talk about. Oh and what did he say about Owen?
@RSXemperor WWE now reminds me of the the WWF in the mid-90s where the talent pool was really low. Where the "big draws" back then would of been mid carders in any other era.
Ric is so humble, who would have thought? I will always miss the coked out 80's interviews or more like rants. woooooooooooo!!!!!! Buy your N.C Ric Flair five dollar scratch offs!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
@DoctorDelaware That's weird, my friend didn't experience any of that graciousness. He just looked at him, shrugged and walked off. Maybe it was just a bad day for Ric, but it always made us look at him in a bad light ever since.
the reason everyone is hating on cena is because his character hasnt changed/evolved is years. i dont like the current direction wwe is gonig, but i think the pg-13 could work better if cena stepped it up a bit. hes very talented and i think he and wwe are too scared to try anything new with him. we need a new monday night war.... but not with tna
@SovereignStatesman Absolutely. I think that even the different wrestling organizations are trying to help their wrestlers by telling them to not go out and buy four cars and to save the majority of their money instead.
True, Flair always holds back, and I think it's because no matter how good or bad things go, he protects the business. But when he shuts off the Nature Boy persona, he gets erratic. His wildly stupid attacks on Hart and Foley come both from loyalty to the psychopath McMahon and professional jealousy. You'd think he'd be secure enough in his own legend, but no way. Company man.
If you're popular, you draw. Not like sting, muta, hbk, taker, etc. But when it came to hyped tag team matches. They were there with the best. Michigan letter men jackets, Rick's bark, and wrestling gear. Steiners savvy, and sick finisher. They were beyond memorable. I think it's a shame that not one day in the see able future will they be up for HOF. Ego's in the WWE will sadly overlook them. But, I could be wrong.
@MrWrestlingGuy2010 exactly, and alot of people loved cena when he came around in 02-05 when he had his rapper gimmick, he was cool and had great feuds with the undertaker and what not. now its the whole super human never give up gimmick for the kids that really sucks.
MRobert 21. I agree with you only on the aspect that, if this were the 70's or 80's, Cena might fair well. However, wrestling is not only a joke today, but Cena doesn't even try to wrestle. As long as kids buy his junk, that's all he cares. In the old days, he would have to perform much better.
Claiming the Steiner bro's didn't draw any money is ridiculous logic my friend. The Steiner bros were in a time with LoD, Rockers, HF, Demolition, including themselves. And the Steiner bros were popular in Japan, US, and England. Mostly Japan was there haven. But really don't say the Steiner bros tag team didn't draw because the Steiner screwdriver was more memorable than any other tag team could pull off in their matches. That's including Scott which nobody would of drawn for RR03 against HHH.
what Ric mentioned about Cena is what's so frustrating as well... he's not the best worker(he's barely even mediocre when it comes to wrestling), but that is something that can be learned. It's a skill. The fact that he's still doing the same basic lame crap shows he doesn't WANT to be a better in-ring worker. He gets over with the 11 year olds and sells alot of merch, so oh well, let's lift some more weights. I have given up on US-based pro-wrestling(yes, I know there is some decent stuff going on on the indie scene)... the only wrestling I watch now is from Japan. Thank the godz for youtube/the internet.
I agree with the Flair part but I hate to say it you can make the same argument for a lot of Bret matches too. I would actually say in terms of guys who always really mixed it up I can think of 3 guys...HBK, Angle, and Savage.
what do you mean whoooo? that's ric flair. He's the greatest of all time. How do you not know who ric flair is? he's the guy that says WOOOOOO!!!! all the time.
he lives up to his name, hope he will hop by wwe someday to see the growth of the new gen, and oso mentor dem backstage hahas, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
@stephenc8 I feel you man. I realize he has money problems, but he could at least move on to a behind the scenes or business role. I think these guys just get addicted to the emotional rush of performing and getting a reaction from the crowd.
@SovereignStatesman It's a really sad story overall. In terms of Funk specifically, look at where Funk and Flair are in their lives. Funk is obviously the winner there.
There was a bidding war between a few companies for the services of a Flair shoot, which Highspots (obviously) ended up winning. I want to say t/o was $50,000 if memory serves me right, but don't quote me on that.
is there more deleted stuff?? I mean I have this shoot but I can't get enough! The dvds are like 3 hours each but I still feel like they barely scratched the surface. He must have so many stories.
Bret was great but let's stop pretending he had all these different matches and Flair didn't. Ric, Bret and every other wrestler had moves and spots they liked and used in nearly every match. It's not a coincidence that the same people who make that criticism never were in the same position as Flair but the ones who were (Race, Steamboat) are his biggest fans.
That's where I think Flair has one up on the Hitman. Hart is all technical, zero showmanship. And I respect that, don't get me wrong; WAY better to be all technique and no show than to be all show and no technique (*cough*Cena*cough*). But what makes Flair just a little better in my opinion is that he used a perfect mix of technique and show; not too much or too little of either, just enough to satisfy both entertainment and sports fans alike, unlike most other wrestlers who do either-or.
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I've met Flair several times. Always gracious to the fans.
Guy was living the life.
We went to the Great American Bash in 86. Not sure if it was planned or not, but my friend’s mother got us a room in the hotel that all the wrestler’s were staying at that night. The R&R Express was 2 doors down from us.
Anyway, we get back from the Bash and my buddy and I are hanging out in the hotel lobby and the wrestlers are all down there coming in from the event. Long story short, Flair comes out of the hotel bar yelling, “whooooo”!
Had a chic under each arm. Lol! No joke.
It's facinating listening to flair a guy who wrestled for 38 years. Flair got over by putting guys over, best there was at wrestling psychology
I love Ric Flair, he's one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all-time. For those of you that don't know, this is Ric's first shoot interview.
Flair's measure of a good guy is someone who can drink and party.
to be honest, it is a standard that holds some merit. the guys who werent drinking and partying were usually the guys that happened to be bad for business, like lex lugar or ultimate warrior
@@captainthrall But not all Jerry Lawler, Sting, etc.
he puts over luger saying he was the physique guy; luger did party just didn't start that way. it was the way the business was then but it changed.
Lol I picked up on that too
captainthrall true. Henmig,rude a lot of top top greats ran the bars. Harley Race sure did so did Dusty
What is limited in wrestling? Someone who does 3 moves?
At the end of the day, as a wrestler, you want to have a good match, but what is a good match? A match with about 10,000 spots with a roll up finish that gets no reaction at the end because the crowd are exhausted?
Or a match with an awesome story which had the crowd sitting on the edge of their seats and a massive reaction at the end, but maybe one or two high spots that makes sense?
Flair was a master at getting the crowd to react.
You don't have to second-guess yourself Ric even in the 90s you were still the man..... Woooooo
It makes me so happy to know that there are wrestling fans like you out there who actually understand and love wrestling to see that.
I think Flair definitely has a 12-15 minute match in his back pocket whenever he wants, but there are the Steamboat matches, some work with Piper, Sting...that are different, and that he deserves credit for.
Royal Rumble 92.. when Flair won.. we celebrated for weeks!! We were so high.. 12 year old kids we were.. that was epic!! Flair is the best!!
anyone who can wrestle and win a world championship with a broken back like flair did deserves respect, vidflesh....the man is a true hard worker in an era right now, where everyone is afraid of breaking a nail....so do everyone a favor and get a life
Angle too!
Respect guys, Flair made a career out of making other wrestlers look good.
You might want to hear what the “other guys” say about that.
It's nice to see a good, positive interview. Thanks.
Wahoo was an incredible person /athlete. Would run a marathon at the drop of a hat to win a bet. A legit tough guy who did so much for wrestling.
Wahoo had a gimmick that was well wore out- the cowboy with the boots and the bell. If he had a little more imagination it might have been" The Macho Man Mc Daniels!" Little things mean a lot.
You got that right. I got a chance to meet him back in the late 70's...
Fantastic. I will be buying this no questions asked.
Guess Who? Wahoo! Wahoo McDaniel. Thanks, Ric - he was one helluva football player
Awesome interview we love you nature boy God bless you, still climbing space mountain wooo
Flair is one of the very few wrestlers I've seen actually tell the truth about Cena's "abilities".
Flair definitely has a lot of class
Watch Flair vs Steamboat at Music City Showdown in Nashville from the late spring of 1989, watch Flair wrestle Harley Race at the first Starrcade from 1983, and watch Flair vs. Terry Funk from the fall of 1989 in Troy, New York on The Clash Of Champions where they had their "I Quit Match" and then tell me it's the same match all 3 times. BTW, he was famous for being a "60 minute man" but none of those three matches is a sixty minute match even though he wrestled many, many 60 minute matches.
Yeah I'm 5 years late on this one but Ric Flair is the 60 Minute Man. I seen him wrestle for 50 55 minutes and a whole show for that night that he did was for 60 minutes. You can say what you want but there is no wrestler today that can do with Ric Flair did so put that in your pipe and smoke it
wow i cant believe he has done a sit down interview awesome
You can hear Cena loudly calling spots in the ring lol
What a legend! Love this guy
Ric Flair is the greatest wrestler of all time. He had to work with a simple worf rame to make all the mediocre talent around him good. The matches with Rick Martel, Ricky Steamboat, Jack Veneno, Ron Garvin, and Carlos Colon, pure classics. The second best I saw, was Dory Funk Jr. Brett Heart was great as Tag team. Bruno Sammartino is on coach seat with Brett Heart.
hiram garcia ... simple worf rame...”
What does that even mean?
I already pre ordered this. I can't wait
he lost me at Texas Titans
@frank bonini they were actually the Dallas Texans. The Jets used to be the New York Titans.
Yup. Flair knew how to build a match. Flair and Dusty fights were the fights of legend.
Ric Flair a Wrestling God; I'm such a mark for this dude....
Actually this footage will not be on any of the four DVDs. We got that much great footage.
He does bring up a very valid point, Cena is not the best worker but the guys a great performer. The same thing can be said of Hogan too. That's what just drives me nuts about most of us marks, most of us don't get that. lol
Most of the "fans" like him, the main people who hate him are guys jealous because their girlfriends like him, and wannabe smarks who boo him because it was the cool thing to do 3 years ago.
It's clearly not dead. Is it as big as it was in the late 90s?! No. But obviously the business is still going, and will continue to go.
Ric Flair must of wanted to keep the wwe door open saying cena's unselfish. As a person cena seems nice but the guys never puts over anyone clean and you can be sure he playing politics to be at the top for as long as he has.
Well if they put daniel bryan in his position he would smash cena in merchandise etc..
The Rock beat him clean Wm 28, Daniel bryan beat him clean at summer slam 2013 Brock lesnar has busted him open on multiple occasions in 2014 as clean as i have ever seen Brock made him look like a jobber.
Flair talks very well about Wrestling, You can tell he really knows his stuff. Not sure I agree with him on Cena but he makes a fair point. Bearing in mind this was 2008 I'd add Jericho to that list as an old school heel who could also have great matches. And though he was in TNA at that point I think Angle deserves to be talked about in that league. Maybe Kane too.
I think WWE or someone should do a a DVD release on Wahoo McDaniel. I've not seen much of his stuff but always hear good things. Cornette was a big fan too.
Shawn was in the AWA long before WWE, the Undertaker was Mean Mark in the NWA, Triple H was in the Pacific Coast for a bit.
Got to love Rick Flair! Just an Awesome Person!
THE NATURE BOY WOOO HE'S ON FIRE LOL
Yes he is LOL
This has to be the biggest shoot interview ever
When Flair talks i listen.
If there were a Mt. Rushmore of wrestling, the Nature Boy Rick Flair would sit front and center.
@mrslash11 - My Ric Flair had an awesome match in the tokyo dome with Tatsumi Fujinami !
Yea it was Highspots
@Shoooooooo81 If Flair were still wrestling right now, then I would agree with you. The established, old, respected guys of the industry are still valuable to the product at 60 years old so long as they're used properly. There is no greater endorsement to a young wrestler(from a spectator's perspective) than to have one of the big dogs in the industry at his corner. That's what the old guys should be used for.
Don't get me wrong, i respect the hell out of Ric. I read his biography a few years back, very eventful life. I was just commenting on the black eye mainly.
@DoctorDelaware
Lucky! I've only met him once, but I felt very fortunate for that opportunity.
Cena could never be a technical wrestler even if he wanted to be... he is nothing special at all.
To promote this video if you change the title to include Wahoo Cena you would have way more views....
John cena's matches with Shawn are phenomenal
Wahoo McDaniel was a specimen of a man!
@SovereignStatesman A lot of wrestlers have had hard times, but there hasn't been anyone who has risen as high and then fallen as low as Flair. If anything, young wrestlers will see his story and start saving their money and making good business decisions.
Rick Flair was the greatest wrestler of all time. Really respected among his peers
Im currently watching Monday Nitro from the first episode im on Nitro 38 now. Hes 47, wrestling every monday and PPV's each month and putting on amazing matches. Its unbelievable the bumps he takes too.
CREEPOFREEK *Ric
I love Cena. I wish he'd actually sell a move once in a while but he's got a certain charisma to him you find hard to replicate, especially in this day and age. Though he's no Rock, he oozes charisma.
As for Flair. I love the guy to bits and there's no denying what he's done for the business, but I wish he'd retire now. Its getting painful seeing him tear himself up in the ring and I worry he's going to push past his limit.
Awesome interview
@RSXemperor
Flair is right about Cena.Honestly WWE doesn't have that "star" that can draw big like the guys back in 70's,80's& 90's
Ten years ago I would've said you're so right, he's not getting the reaction he's supposed to get. But, welcome to the 21st century kiddos. We are LONG passed the days of "heel" or "face". You can blame Austin and other "tweeners" for that and I for one am grateful. We live in a world where MARKS mean money, but SMARKS mean improving the quality of the product, which means MORE money. Cena gets a reaction, that's all he needs to do. "BOO" or "CHEER", it's a reaction and a that means money.
Good point. But its very speculative to say that even a popular mid-card talent ever draws money. To say that you draw money is to say people buy PPVs or tune in weekly specifically to see you. It doesn't mean that they just keep their TVs on when you are on, else a lot of people do. Few tag teams have ever been major draws outside of gimmick matches. Now, Steiners were big names, that's why they were paid money by promotions in Japan. But to say they ever really drew is, i think, wrong.
Flair was beaten up a week before the interview.
Ric one of the best ever.
All Flair cares about is if guys go out and drink and party. If they don't do that, Flair doesn't think they care about the business. Cena is solid, I think the problem that most fans have with him is that his character has not changed one bit in like 5 years or so now. It needs to change.
Ok bud we get the point. I personally believe Savage was a better performer than Hogan also, but Hogan is and always will be a legend in wrestling, like it or not. I've made my point, you've made yours.
Recently I've been looking for segments where Ric talks about the von erichs, WCCW, Texas. Can't seem to find anything about his times there
Flair was a great wrestler. His problem was he didn't know when to let go and quit wrestling. He wrestled until he was 63 years. As he quit wrestling for WWE.com at age 62. And then wrestled for a few for TNA wrestling and then quit permantly from wrestling. I think we can all say Rick Flair was one of the best wrestlers around. And that there are others just as good as Rick Flair was including Bret Hart etc.
Flair seems to always find the best in other wrestlers... even when he criticizes them, he's still sure to point out their strengths as well.
Woooo!!! enough said
I think I'll will too. I just hate when he puts his hand in the air and goes " you can't see me!".
Sure there were other good wrestlers but hogan and flair took it to a different level!!
Its the 4 disc one I have, but it's still not enough, Ha. yeah I agree he hols back about some things but there were so many subjects for him to talk about.
Oh and what did he say about Owen?
@RSXemperor WWE now reminds me of the the WWF in the mid-90s where the talent pool was really low. Where the "big draws" back then would of been mid carders in any other era.
Ric is so humble, who would have thought? I will always miss the coked out 80's interviews or more like rants. woooooooooooo!!!!!! Buy your N.C Ric Flair five dollar scratch offs!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Ric Flair FTW WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
@DoctorDelaware That's weird, my friend didn't experience any of that graciousness. He just looked at him, shrugged and walked off. Maybe it was just a bad day for Ric, but it always made us look at him in a bad light ever since.
the reason everyone is hating on cena is because his character hasnt changed/evolved is years. i dont like the current direction wwe is gonig, but i think the pg-13 could work better if cena stepped it up a bit. hes very talented and i think he and wwe are too scared to try anything new with him. we need a new monday night war.... but not with tna
Ric's black eye is the result of losing a fight to his daughter's boyfriend.
+jakethemuss3 legit?
Bale4Bond Yep, totally.
jakethemuss3 how would U know ???
David Lishin the news paper, the mark sheets, do a search.
@SovereignStatesman Absolutely. I think that even the different wrestling organizations are trying to help their wrestlers by telling them to not go out and buy four cars and to save the majority of their money instead.
Austin was a fantastic technical wrestler before he had the pile driver incident with Owen Hart.
True, Flair always holds back, and I think it's because no matter how good or bad things go, he protects the business. But when he shuts off the Nature Boy persona, he gets erratic. His wildly stupid attacks on Hart and Foley come both from loyalty to the psychopath McMahon and professional jealousy. You'd think he'd be secure enough in his own legend, but no way. Company man.
If you're popular, you draw. Not like sting, muta, hbk, taker, etc. But when it came to hyped tag team matches. They were there with the best. Michigan letter men jackets, Rick's bark, and wrestling gear. Steiners savvy, and sick finisher. They were beyond memorable. I think it's a shame that not one day in the see able future will they be up for HOF. Ego's in the WWE will sadly overlook them. But, I could be wrong.
you're so wrong. ric flair is a household name. even non wrestling fans know who he is. you can't say that about bret hart.
I agree but I think flair is a much better showman and no one can cut a promo like ric flair!!
@MrWrestlingGuy2010 exactly, and alot of people loved cena when he came around in 02-05 when he had his rapper gimmick, he was cool and had great feuds with the undertaker and what not. now its the whole super human never give up gimmick for the kids that really sucks.
MRobert 21. I agree with you only on the aspect that, if this were the 70's or 80's, Cena might fair well. However, wrestling is not only a joke today, but Cena doesn't even try to wrestle. As long as kids buy his junk, that's all he cares. In the old days, he would have to perform much better.
Claiming the Steiner bro's didn't draw any money is ridiculous logic my friend. The Steiner bros were in a time with LoD, Rockers, HF, Demolition, including themselves. And the Steiner bros were popular in Japan, US, and England. Mostly Japan was there haven. But really don't say the Steiner bros tag team didn't draw because the Steiner screwdriver was more memorable than any other tag team could pull off in their matches. That's including Scott which nobody would of drawn for RR03 against HHH.
what Ric mentioned about Cena is what's so frustrating as well... he's not the best worker(he's barely even mediocre when it comes to wrestling), but that is something that can be learned. It's a skill. The fact that he's still doing the same basic lame crap shows he doesn't WANT to be a better in-ring worker. He gets over with the 11 year olds and sells alot of merch, so oh well, let's lift some more weights.
I have given up on US-based pro-wrestling(yes, I know there is some decent stuff going on on the indie scene)... the only wrestling I watch now is from Japan. Thank the godz for youtube/the internet.
i just come on here and try to find old stuff or Indie matches.
Fuck Cena! I'm bored to death with him. It's been the same gimmick for almost ten years now.
I love ric flair
@ShaneSites LOL! You called me a scrub! Oh man,THAT was funny. Hey,if you are a Cena mark that's your thing. I didn't mean to upset you.
I agree with the Flair part but I hate to say it you can make the same argument for a lot of Bret matches too. I would actually say in terms of guys who always really mixed it up I can think of 3 guys...HBK, Angle, and Savage.
what do you mean whoooo? that's ric flair. He's the greatest of all time. How do you not know who ric flair is? he's the guy that says WOOOOOO!!!! all the time.
He, wasen't beaten up he got in a fight. He, gave as good as he got. WOOOO
he lives up to his name, hope he will hop by wwe someday to see the growth of the new gen, and oso mentor dem backstage hahas, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
I came in here wanting to find a good video my 11 year old and their "John Cena" backpack could laugh at and I found nothing.
I don't think it will be cut, it will be under special features or soemthing like that.
@stephenc8 I feel you man. I realize he has money problems, but he could at least move on to a behind the scenes or business role. I think these guys just get addicted to the emotional rush of performing and getting a reaction from the crowd.
Flair Aged Horribly.
u r right
@SovereignStatesman It's a really sad story overall. In terms of Funk specifically, look at where Funk and Flair are in their lives. Funk is obviously the winner there.
There was a bidding war between a few companies for the services of a Flair shoot, which Highspots (obviously) ended up winning. I want to say t/o was $50,000 if memory serves me right, but don't quote me on that.
regardless of how you feel about cena. he is a true fan of the business. he is a great representative for the wwe.
is there more deleted stuff?? I mean I have this shoot but I can't get enough! The dvds are like 3 hours each but I still feel like they barely scratched the surface. He must have so many stories.
Bret was great but let's stop pretending he had all these different matches and Flair didn't. Ric, Bret and every other wrestler had moves and spots they liked and used in nearly every match.
It's not a coincidence that the same people who make that criticism never were in the same position as Flair but the ones who were (Race, Steamboat) are his biggest fans.
That's where I think Flair has one up on the Hitman. Hart is all technical, zero showmanship. And I respect that, don't get me wrong; WAY better to be all technique and no show than to be all show and no technique (*cough*Cena*cough*). But what makes Flair just a little better in my opinion is that he used a perfect mix of technique and show; not too much or too little of either, just enough to satisfy both entertainment and sports fans alike, unlike most other wrestlers who do either-or.
Good to see Dusty Roads again.