I really like the philosophy of this thing. More sailing, less stuff. You actually do not need a huge condo that floats. The market for a boat like this will always be small, because most of the people who have enough money to buy it actually care more about spacious accommodations on the hook than they do about the ripping fun they can have underway. But for the small set of people that actually get it, it is really beautifully executed.
I can understand making the dining table bigger for extra guests, but this is a TINY boat. Space would be better utilized IMHO, if you got rid of the large dining table, and you provided a larger kitchen with more amenities suitable for longer cruises. As an option you could offer both floor plans (for short term duration cruises and longer term duration cruises). I don’t know your current customer demographics, but it could be interesting to try it, and see if you can pull customers from other markets. I like the induction oven and the microwave oven. Add a dishwasher and a washer, and make the sink larger with more work prep area.Change the toilet for either a composting toilet or an incinerating toilet, and maybe you can get rid of the black water tank. If you can get rid of the black tank, you can add a water maker, and a larger fresh water tank. If you can’t get rid of the black tank, perhaps a vacuum toilet might do the trick. Get rid of the Yanmar engine. Place some type of electric propulsion system with regeneration with a diesel generator. Use the weight advantage to add as many batteries as possible. Add a hot water heat pump for hot water. Now, you have enough electricity for cooking, washing, hot water, and cruising at low speeds for x-number of hours (if the batteries are low, then the diesel generator turns on). Finally, enclose the helm station, and make it SAFE. You might have to increase the boom height. The idea is to be able to sit comfortably for night cruising with unpleasant weather outside for several days. I think a single helm station is sufficient, and the savings can be applied for making an enclosed helm station. This is perhaps now a vessel capable of doing Transatlantic crossings. I love the work you guys have done, and I like all the ingenious ways of maximizing space and comfort, but this boat has more potential than just short coast hopping trips.
Fran F I know, but they could extend the galley into part of the seating area, perhaps up to the mast and after the mast the dining area. If done right, it could add space for a dishwasher, a washer, a refrigerator, a freezer, a pantry, and more prep area. Without a proper galley, why spend the extra money on it when you can buy the smaller models and go out for single day or weekend trips. With the smaller models you prep food at home, and the small kitchen is great to serve it, but I would not like to prepare food in it, and I can’t even see myself on a week long trip without going mad in it trying to prepare, cook, and serve food. The water tank is so small that washing dishes by hand three times a day will finish it soon. It needs a proper water maker and ways to conserve on water use like a composting toilet, a dishwasher, and a washer.
@@ek9772 While those are all good suggestions, they seem to go out of their way to focus on reducing weight, and keeping her narrow and fast. That is their bread and butter right now, but I am sure that once they get the kinks worked out they will begin to add options, and optional layouts. I can see a lot of ways to improve blue water long range market share, but they all add to the weight and increase windage, etc.
Beautiful boat, but I'm wondering if hiding the lines under the floor wouldn't be an issue if you needed to replace one. Seems like access would be an issue.
This would be a fun coastal boat in Florida, fast and shallow draft. I see no need for the dual helms. Keep the portside with all the relevant controls. Two things: I do not understand why designers think we need massive dining room tables. It's as if eating with a crowd is the main reason for having a boat. Secondly, the helm stations are unprotected. Spray from speed might not drench the helmsman but rain absolutely will. How long can the helmsman reasonably function in a 15 - 20 knot beat upwind in the rain, boat speed plus wind speed. Could be brutal. Seems like a lot of electrical gear. I would want this outfitted with wind mill and a hard but collapsible Bimini with bit solar panels and some flexible panels that could be deployed on the amas trampolines while underway. This is a pretty boat. I like the engine room, roomy! Easy access. The interior is very nice, warm and comfortable for the size limitations.
With the disclaimer that I'm only an armchair sailor, I think this much I do understand: digital control panels may look nice but aren't a great idea for longer passages. If the panel breaks down you lose the full functionality all at once. Instead, old-school physical switches where you can do simple diagnostics with a voltmeter and perform repairs yourself while on the way are superior for safety. Bluewater boats ain't Tesla cars. Maybe some customers fall for that, but I'm sure just as many consider this as a no-go. Otherwise: great boat!
A lot of attention to very attractive interior finish. From my take she’s a bit overwhelming with the below decks furnishings. All the same, very pretty topsies. Maybe the twin wheels are not necessary on a yacht this size.
I LOVE these boats! They are so beautifully finished and designed. But I can't get my head around the price! Starting at mid 600's Euros when you can get a Neel 47 starting at ~$450K for a MUCH bigger and more practical boat in almost all regards. No it won't fold up, but there is no comparison as to cabins, storage, galley, etc. Maybe they are happy selling to a very small market, but it would be nice to see something not so hand built and perfect that would compete better with Corsair. (Their 37 base price is only $230K Euros. You could buy TWO, fully kitted out for one DF 40!) 👀
And there you can see a difference in the cost of building in Denmark versus Vietnam. Note: I'm not saying one place or boat is better than the other, but the difference in labor costs must be mentioned, if you're wondering why there is so large a price difference. P.S. Some of the Neel boats had major design/construction problems like the transom detaching from the hull.
Agree. I would never be able to afford this boat - so by all means, build a 50 footer that I cant afford either. I am not being ironic - there can only be too few boats on the water of this type and quality.
@@peterlewis4386 2feet or 50cm difference is not worth that folding mechanism taking all that room. I like my boats to be robust. I don't like folding keels
A great way to start sailing is to join a local sailing club and take classes there. It's also very economical to use their boats instead of (or before) owning one. Sailing more often cured my seasickness.
$879,000.00 for that is.... WOW! Expensive coastal cruiser. 4 adults with only a week of food at best with that tiny fridge. It's cool, but just not practical for much blue water cruising or a live aboard. Nice to look at and would be fun, just not for long term ocean sailing compared to other options in that price range. Of course my range is less than half of that, so I have no skin in the game. But even as a millionaire who wants a sailboat, I'm sure they'd be looking at a different amenity type sailboat to sail.
No Wave Pierce. Attention. The boat is pounding and bouncing in sea of 1m beginning to Jump like hell. To much buoyancy in the floats and the hull in all ultimate Versions. You geht a Lift After every Wave like hell to heaven immediately after every wave.
I really like the philosophy of this thing. More sailing, less stuff. You actually do not need a huge condo that floats. The market for a boat like this will always be small, because most of the people who have enough money to buy it actually care more about spacious accommodations on the hook than they do about the ripping fun they can have underway. But for the small set of people that actually get it, it is really beautifully executed.
Neel already makes trimarans that are floating condos. And yes Less is more. Less to break. Less to maintain. More time to sail and relax.
Superb vesssel sir. Top skills to all concerned in the Build. Looking forward to the Sailing test. All in all, bloody well done.
The people who work for this man have no idea what they have. His concept of family, work and duty are as if he was born 200 year ago. Amazing!
Amazing isn't it.......how everything used to be better than it is now.
@@peterembranch5797 Soon everything will be 10K times better than it has Ever been. Mark my words.
This trip is a motorsailer too haha. Seriously, between this and the Sirius 35DS, possible the most innovative small yachts ever.
Lottery gods it is high time for you to give me a call. 😊
I can understand making the dining table bigger for extra guests, but this is a TINY boat. Space would be better utilized IMHO, if you got rid of the large dining table, and you provided a larger kitchen with more amenities suitable for longer cruises.
As an option you could offer both floor plans (for short term duration cruises and longer term duration cruises).
I don’t know your current customer demographics, but it could be interesting to try it, and see if you can pull customers from other markets.
I like the induction oven and the microwave oven. Add a dishwasher and a washer, and make the sink larger with more work prep area.Change the toilet for either a composting toilet or an incinerating toilet, and maybe you can get rid of the black water tank.
If you can get rid of the black tank, you can add a water maker, and a larger fresh water tank. If you can’t get rid of the black tank, perhaps a vacuum toilet might do the trick.
Get rid of the Yanmar engine. Place some type of electric propulsion system with regeneration with a diesel generator. Use the weight advantage to add as many batteries as possible. Add a hot water heat pump for hot water.
Now, you have enough electricity for cooking, washing, hot water, and cruising at low speeds for x-number of hours (if the batteries are low, then the diesel generator turns on).
Finally, enclose the helm station, and make it SAFE. You might have to increase the boom height. The idea is to be able to sit comfortably for night cruising with unpleasant weather outside for several days. I think a single helm station is sufficient, and the savings can be applied for making an enclosed helm station.
This is perhaps now a vessel capable of doing Transatlantic crossings.
I love the work you guys have done, and I like all the ingenious ways of maximizing space and comfort, but this boat has more potential than just short coast hopping trips.
Good comment and what I have been thinking about since I first saw the D40.
Skuli Jakobsson it is a beauty of a boat.
There's the folding keel system under the saloon table. Difficult to change the layout.
Fran F I know, but they could extend the galley into part of the seating area, perhaps up to the mast and after the mast the dining area. If done right, it could add space for a dishwasher, a washer, a refrigerator, a freezer, a pantry, and more prep area.
Without a proper galley, why spend the extra money on it when you can buy the smaller models and go out for single day or weekend trips. With the smaller models you prep food at home, and the small kitchen is great to serve it, but I would not like to prepare food in it, and I can’t even see myself on a week long trip without going mad in it trying to prepare, cook, and serve food.
The water tank is so small that washing dishes by hand three times a day will finish it soon. It needs a proper water maker and ways to conserve on water use like a composting toilet, a dishwasher, and a washer.
@@ek9772 While those are all good suggestions, they seem to go out of their way to focus on reducing weight, and keeping her narrow and fast. That is their bread and butter right now, but I am sure that once they get the kinks worked out they will begin to add options, and optional layouts. I can see a lot of ways to improve blue water long range market share, but they all add to the weight and increase windage, etc.
What a awsome boat so many clever ideas.
I would have never imagined twin helms on a trimaran
Beautiful boat, but I'm wondering if hiding the lines under the floor wouldn't be an issue if you needed to replace one. Seems like access would be an issue.
I gues you would do the same Thing as when you Switch lines in the mast.
Love this and have added it to my dream purchase list!
Cool video. I like your way to explain the things.
So there are some specs I would Like different.
Looking foarwarts for new videos.
It's simply a work of art
Beautifull thought out boat. You wouldn't get me in a cat but this dose really tempt me - great job
It is not a cat. It is a tri
@@jonasfriis6088 If you read my post you would see I don't like cats but I am tempted by this - because it's not a cat!
Cocktails at 24 knots
This would be a fun coastal boat in Florida, fast and shallow draft. I see no need for the dual helms. Keep the portside with all the relevant controls. Two things: I do not understand why designers think we need massive dining room tables. It's as if eating with a crowd is the main reason for having a boat. Secondly, the helm stations are unprotected. Spray from speed might not drench the helmsman but rain absolutely will. How long can the helmsman reasonably function in a 15 - 20 knot beat upwind in the rain, boat speed plus wind speed. Could be brutal. Seems like a lot of electrical gear. I would want this outfitted with wind mill and a hard but collapsible Bimini with bit solar panels and some flexible panels that could be deployed on the amas trampolines while underway.
This is a pretty boat. I like the engine room, roomy! Easy access. The interior is very nice, warm and comfortable for the size limitations.
With the disclaimer that I'm only an armchair sailor, I think this much I do understand: digital control panels may look nice but aren't a great idea for longer passages. If the panel breaks down you lose the full functionality all at once. Instead, old-school physical switches where you can do simple diagnostics with a voltmeter and perform repairs yourself while on the way are superior for safety. Bluewater boats ain't Tesla cars. Maybe some customers fall for that, but I'm sure just as many consider this as a no-go.
Otherwise: great boat!
A lot of attention to very attractive interior finish. From my take she’s a bit overwhelming with the below decks furnishings. All the same, very pretty topsies. Maybe the twin wheels are not necessary on a yacht this size.
what's the starting price for this and how long to take delivery of it?
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hove is this boat in 20-22 m/s ,the stove then ,singel hand seiling in 20 m/s in mittel of Atlantic???
I LOVE these boats! They are so beautifully finished and designed. But I can't get my head around the price! Starting at mid 600's Euros when you can get a Neel 47 starting at ~$450K for a MUCH bigger and more practical boat in almost all regards. No it won't fold up, but there is no comparison as to cabins, storage, galley, etc. Maybe they are happy selling to a very small market, but it would be nice to see something not so hand built and perfect that would compete better with Corsair. (Their 37 base price is only $230K Euros. You could buy TWO, fully kitted out for one DF 40!) 👀
And there you can see a difference in the cost of building in Denmark versus Vietnam.
Note: I'm not saying one place or boat is better than the other, but the difference in labor costs must be mentioned, if you're wondering why there is so large a price difference.
P.S. Some of the Neel boats had major design/construction problems like the transom detaching from the hull.
have you seen the quality of build in a neel boat? its trash
There are videos out there showing Neel build quality. The build quality seems to be horrendously bad.
Hi Jens.
Is there an option for a cockpit table?
Regards
Thanks. Good to know.
are these easy to single handed sail?
Nice.
Is it foldable as smaller ones?
Yes but not trailable
I like to see a 50 footer
Agree. I would never be able to afford this boat - so by all means, build a 50 footer that I cant afford either. I am not being ironic - there can only be too few boats on the water of this type and quality.
Why is the re No traveller on the main sheet?
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Jokes aside, amazing boat.👍
How good is your Dutch?
Jens can the boat be ordered with a fixed keel so there is more room in the cabin? I don't need foldable keel.
Nuts not to have on a shallow draft tri?
@@peterlewis4386 2feet or 50cm difference is not worth that folding mechanism taking all that room. I like my boats to be robust. I don't like folding keels
@@Bangabalunga the difference is over 2 meters ( over 6 foot )
I dont even sail and I get sea sick. But when I win the lottery I'm buying one.
A great way to start sailing is to join a local sailing club and take classes there. It's also very economical to use their boats instead of (or before) owning one.
Sailing more often cured my seasickness.
Looks very nice, but you should really do something about the audio.
Nice boat.
$879,000.00 for that is.... WOW! Expensive coastal cruiser. 4 adults with only a week of food at best with that tiny fridge. It's cool, but just not practical for much blue water cruising or a live aboard. Nice to look at and would be fun, just not for long term ocean sailing compared to other options in that price range. Of course my range is less than half of that, so I have no skin in the game. But even as a millionaire who wants a sailboat, I'm sure they'd be looking at a different amenity type sailboat to sail.
It depends on if you want to have fun and sail fast or sail a big slow boat.
Awesome boat, I am seriously considering offer body parts for sale either the 40 or 32. I need the sea and this boat is my vessel of choice.
Jens,is it a trailer boat?
No, only the Dragonfly 25 and Dragonfly 28 is trailerable.
it can bend its floats for piers smaller profile sense some also charge with the boat size and tonnage
Why do you need a forty footer for a weekender?
Because you can afford it.
Sea sickness Inclusive with this boat. Upwind is very cruel, try it and you will realize yourself.
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Sound pleeease....!
Solar power.
There is usually a solar panel on each ama.
2020, You are introducing a new product of your company and you ewen don't have a decent microphone?
Too expensive for a small boat, its not vacuumed fused hull, for that kind of money you can get a Rapido 50, ten feet longer with a full carbon hull.
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No Wave Pierce. Attention.
The boat is pounding and bouncing in sea of 1m beginning to Jump like hell.
To much buoyancy in the floats and the hull in all ultimate Versions.
You geht a Lift After every Wave like hell to heaven immediately after every wave.
Молодец +++++
The salesman couldn't sell water to a thirsty man in the middle of the desert...
Induction stove is a terrible idea.
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