When that girl at the end said she didn’t care about God. When I was an atheist I also didn’t care and hated God. Crazy to think where I am now🤍 God bless
After I came to Christ I realized that it's only by God's grace we can be at this point because all the stuff I know now still probably wouldn't have changed me into a Christian. It was purely the mercy and grace of God that brought me to him.
@Paul Moody then the obvious question is if you really believe that God doesn't exist why are you calling yourself an atheist? Why do you assume God is just in a book God is everywhere
Anytime a person says "I don't care about God" or "I don't want eternal life" if you, too, feel extremely sad for that person and yet motivated to show them the love of Christ, that must be God's Spirit within. I can remember back to a time where I also didn't care. Thank God for His mercy and grace!
Sadly, this generation increasingly thinks that disagreement is hate. So, they cannot be friends with their ideological opponents - in fact, too often they hate them. This is because people don't think the truth is outside of ourselves, to be freely dialogued over. They think it lives within their identity, so to contradict them is deeply, personally offensive. This is the greater problem. We are getting close to a situation where controlling debate and disagreement is seen as an act of compassion and virtue. In reality, it'll destroy more than it saves. As a footnote, another answer lies in the Cliffes and Stuarts of this world. They are an example to all in the way to conduct oneself.
I think it's more based on the justifications for bad behavior that religious people used and defend by pointing to their god. "I didn't decide that God did, and he's perfect." The common rejection of science is another factor, often picking and choosing which science is real to them, and denying the rest.
HERE IS OUR SAVIOR YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@Paul Moody yes I’m sure she is love by her friends and family. Well God created us, so He literally offered everything. But He also offered to take our punishment. The wages of sin is death. We have All done something against God. Back before Jesus died, to be forgiven, you had to give sacrifices like sheep, to God, over and over again. But Jesus became the ultimate sacrifice. So all we need to do is ask and receive forgiveness. Again it’s up to you to accept that forgiveness. IF God was real (I’m saying if because you don’t believe in God so I want to speak in your perspective) IF God isn’t real, than love is just science. So our family friends, their love would just be a chemical reaction. But ofc Im sure you love your family and friends, and that it’s genuine. But it can’t be made by science. There has to be a creator. Many atheists believe in the things that make sense and can be proven, like science and things you can see physically. But love is not physical, it’s not science, so what is it? I didn’t want to try questioning your belief, but because you questioned mine I believe I can also question yours. Just the way I can’t give you science facts to prove God’s existence 100%, you can prove to me 100% God isn’t real, because I have had my personal experiences with God, and no matter what anyone tells me, my mind won’t be changed, I’m guessing the same as your mind won’t change about God not being real. I respect you. And I really wish the best for you. All I can say is, my life is better because of God, and His love for me and for YOU is real, even when the world hates Him, He will continue to love. God bless you.
I wasn’t aware of nature until I was born again, before that I took everything for granted... once I was born again everything becomes a new and then I saw God and everything The wind , the rain , the flowers 🌺, the bees 🐝 , the birds were all singing praises to God...✅
Who has been deceived? I know of absolutely no evidence for devils (or gods for that matter). I suspect that these kids have neither seen one or heard one either. They remind me of the child in "The Emperor has no clothes" capable of thinking for themselves and applying critical thinking rather than believing stuff just because someone said so.
@@paulhadlington8179 witchcrafts real. I was an atheist and then got into witchcraft. I remember during this time I was suicidal, obsessive, depressed and anxious all the time. I saw demons and felt their presence. You might think I’m crazy but there is something more after death. I know this for sure. I called out to God if there even was one and asked Him for a sign. I begged and asked Him for just one sign. That’s all I wanted. The next day I had forgotten what I even asked for the day before. I walked to school, open the doors of the building, and walked in. I was early to class so I decided to take a detour and walk around just to kill time. I walked into an art exhibit at the school, I saw a sculpture of a man and written under it were the words “Jesus will be here soon”. This is when I knew it wasn’t just a coincidence. It was the sign I asked for. From that day on, I researched more about it. I don’t like to be called a Christian, rather I am a follower of Christ. It’s not a religion, it’s a relationship with Him. I have never felt more satisfied, content and reassured in my life before ever since I put my faith in Him. Once you put your faith in Him, you will be reborn with a new heart. That doesn’t mean I am perfect, we will never be perfect. Only God is. I don’t worship Christ because I don’t want to go to hell, it’s because I love Him and He loves me unconditionally. We can talk more if you’d like, I’d love to answer any questions you have. I’m not here to convert you or force you. Besides God doesn’t want us to be forced into loving Him. He gave us free will for that reason lol. Anyways sorry I rambled a bit too much, good day to you.
@Paul Moody no no we have free will here yes but Satan is the force that people recognize more then they recognize God, people see more darkness, power and control then they see light that represents all forms of love in this world & that’s always been Satan’s agenda, our actions are our actions but Satans actions is in a collective group of perspective, manipulation, & deception amongst targeted individuals
@Paul Moody nothing in this world can be made up, even when its imaginary, everything is created and applied upon that creation either through thoughts or actions 🌌
My hats off to Cliff and he’s son Stuart for the amount of patience and the work they done with these people God knows I would’ve lost it lol great job guys I’ve learned so much just from watching this channel thank you
It is SO COLD OUT THERE, yet they are still sticking around. Why do I think that is so cool. They are staving for the truth and they don’t even know it
IT NEVER FAILS...CRAZY HOW PEOPLE WANT TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE SO SMART TO THE POINT THAT THEY WILL GRASP FOR STRAWS JUST TO PROVE A POINT AND MAKE THEMSELVES SEEM SMARTER THAN THEY REALLY ARE. PRIDE COMES BEFORE THE FALL!!
@Paul Moody it appears sir that your questioning mind has been callused into a certain belief that God is not a good God. Whatever you’ve been through that has caused you pain, God knows about it, and wants to remove it. Putting a wall between you and God isn’t profitable nor is it going to help you, so you can either continue to endure what you are describing, or you can surrender to the One who created us and let him fill you with joy, peace and love and happiness and maybe one day you can be on the other side of a comment such as yours urging that person to rethink what they believe. A holy life isn’t necessarily easy but it is certainly rewarding. If you want to receive the promises of God from the Bible then the sinful life must go. Hence why it is called the sacrifice of righteousness (Psalm 4:5).
I don't search for meaning. I look around and can't believe it was all just by chance. Trees, grass, bugs, animals, rocks, gems, the stars, humans, cats fur, whiskers and eyes, human eyes, our organs... it's just takes too much faith to be an Atheist. As you say... intelligent design demands an Intelligent Creator. You always amaze me with your patience. And now your son showing the same traits. Wonderful
I'm watching these because I love the interactions between humans. Also, I love Jesus. But the way you are able to keep most people intellectually honest amazes me. I'm 39 and just turning my life around now. I can only hope to have such gusto one day. Thank you for the videos. I can't stop watching!
Amen brother Cliffe! Ive been following you for a while, your videos are packed with so many gems of wisdom. I like to watch you before I go out and preach at my school. You can tell by your fruits and your unique approach that you’re a true man of God, born for such a time as this…in the midst of so much confusion and darkness. I hope you keep up the good work brother, and I pray that God blesses the path you walk! Such an awesome encouragement…feeling pumped!!! Praise be to the most high!
Self-sacrifice works on your depression your self-esteem yourself worth etc. When you help somebody else expecting nothing in return depression diminishes self-esteem and self worth increase. I was horribly abused from age four until my mother passed away two years ago. The only thing that saved me was self-sacrifice. I went into the medical field and worked my heart out for others. I then went into social work due to disabilities and worked my heart out for others. I know that I have done what the Lord wants me to do I believe I was put here to care for others. As soon as I can get out of my house in a wheelchair next week I will be at a soup kitchen or volunteering through a church. I have made a mark on people's hearts and that is my greatest joy along with receiving the love of Jesus Christ!
22:38 I have this memory, I must’ve been 3. Parents thought I was asleep. I was going to go in their room to sleep because I couldn’t on my own, but I heard yelling. It scared me. I heard things I couldn’t understand and can’t remember, but I knew they were angry with each other. I sat in the hall, and this is my clear memory: Why do they keep yelling? I don’t get it. Just hug each other. Stop yelling. I have another memory. I got older, and I valued my intelligence. In fact, I valued intelligence above all personal attributes a person can have. I reflected on the earlier memory and thought: Huh. I was so sure I was right at that time, that they could just stop fighting and make up. But that’s not how it works; one of them has to win, then the fight can be over when one of them accepts they lost. So here I am now. I agree with three year old me. Maybe one of them is right and one is wrong, but it’s RIGHT to make peace, and WRONG to stoke strife. It doesn’t matter if one person is absolutely right and the other is absolutely wrong. They’re both in the wrong for turning a misunderstanding, or a disagreement, into a destructive battle. Man, I was a wise 3 year old!
The last girl was really hurt about something within her life, I could tell. I’m glad Cliffe realized that and said what he said and how he said. I hope she finds the Truth.
It’s sad. Jesus says “I love you” and people answer back with “love is just a chemical reaction” Jesus is simple and straightforward, but the world tries to complicate things. I hope people understand God loves, just because He loves us. Not because we deserve God’s love, but because His love is unconditional.
@Paul Moody and this is why, I know you aren’t fully educated on the Bible. There is both the Old Testament and the New Testament. When Jesus died, the old rules, were not longer something we followed. We don’t give living sacrifices anymore right? People can get divorced right? Forgiveness was given to us on the cross, and a lot of the Old Testament rules are no longer followed. The things you say about His love not being unconditional, is also not correct. If His live was conditional, we would not have freedom, or the first sin we committed, God would have sent us to hell already. I never understood why people think like this, God shows us, He loves us, people refuse to love Him, and you think God will allow you in heaven? His home? To someone who doesn’t love God? Hell WASNT made as a threat, Hell is a place that shows us, that apart from God, everything else is evil and dark. Satan was Lucifer once, an angel, but he wanted to be more, he wanted to be God, and God saw his evil heart and sent Him to hell. It isn’t a threat, it is the outcome of being apart from God. You can’t just say “I don’t love God” but expect eternal peace with Him in heaven?
@Paul Moody at the end of the day, there is only to places, heaven and hell. God isn’t making it hard for anyone to believe? The Bible is there, it is up to you to have faith. Without faith you won’t believe, you’ll doubt. Believe me I felt and thought the same way as you. I wondered, so being a good person isn’t enough to go to heaven? Because I would meet really nice people who weren’t christians. But I learned, we are ALL sinners. We all deserve hell. People get offended when someone says “we all deserve hell” but we arent perfect, we arent saints, we have done something against God. So people wonder “why did God make us imperfect and to be able to sin? Wouldn’t he just have to make us perfect so no one goes to hell?” And this is where unconditional love comes from. If God made us these robot type humans who have no choice but to love him, that would be manipulation. Not love. But He gave you a free will. Freedom. So you don’t have to believe in God, it’s up to you. But you can except to go to heaven, or be happy after death if you didn’t wanna follow the creator of everything?
@Paul Moody it is your decision. I respect anyone who chooses (remember you have the freedom to choose which God gave you) to believe or not believe. You wouldn’t alllow a stranger into your home right? If they say “oh I’m a good person let me in” you will still not let them in. God gives us a chance on earth, if we don’t take it when we face Him, He tells us “depart from me I never knew you” the Bible says that. God won’t allow someone who hates or doesn’t believe in Him to His kingdom. And the same with you, you don’t want to believe in God so you don’t want anything that involves God, so hell is a place that God’s presence is not present. But Jesus died for you. He took your sins. The wages of sin is death, and Jesus took that punishment of death (death and also the wrath of God, which Jesus experienced God’s full wrath, since Jesus carried every Human’s sin, He at the moment was not holy), so you wouldn’t. experience the punishment you deserve, that I deserve. People try to find all reasons to not believe in God, but God will always love you. But love does not equal justification. We sin, SOMEONE had to take the punishment. Jesus did. But it doesn’t mean we automatically get forgiven at birth, we have to live for God, which is such a beautiful thing. To know you were never alone, that every day when you wake up, it was God who woke you up, that your breakfast, your education, your family, your health, your room, it’s all blessings. When you realize that blessings are every where, a new way of living will open for you
@Paul Moody it’s your decision to not believe in God. Also you do realize we are all not “good” we have all done something wrong. So we all deserve this eternal agony. But Jesus is offering to give u a better place to be because being non existent is not an option. But AGAIN, your life, your decision. In my eyes yes, other religions are not true, the same way other religions don’t think Christianity is true. It is called respect. I respect you, I respect other religions, period. So if you do not want to believe in God or any god that is fine, but death is something no one can avoid, so I guess you have to find out what’s gonna happen after death. It is YOUR choice. No one is forcing you. I am only here to show you, and tell you that God loves you. You may not see or understand God, it still won’t change that he loves you 🤷🏻♀️😭 God bless
It's sad for that young lady. Seems that something happened in her life that makes her feel that way. Thank God for thru Cliff he extended love, acceptance and grace. Because in side that's what we all yearn for.
One student say I don't think there has to be a purpose for life??! Why is going to University then?! Are we wasting money sending our kids to school?!
I have so many questions for the girl who said “I don’t want eternal life.” What experiences has she gone through to make her say such a thing? What sort of view or interpretation of God and eternal life does she have that would make her think she doesn’t want that and instead would want to just simply rot in the ground after 80 years on earth?
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
This is so much fun. I pray Saint Cliff gets copycats. I've heard preachers and evangelists @ UC Berkeley but there should be more @ every University. God Love you+ ;-)
The most important reason for God to give us free will, is for true love to exist. Robots don't love genuinely, they MUST produce actions that are programmed in them to look like love. The free choice is what makes it true love. You aren't forced to. God put limits on Adam and Eve, because a father who puts no limits on his children does not truly love them. The limit was for their good and holding to God's word was how Adam and Eve showed love to God. That was perfection. They were materially provided for and immaterially provided for. The free will to choose to disobey and not disobeying was what made the love between Adam and God perfectly true. Once he disobeyed, their relationship was no longer perfect and death entered the picture. Jesus was with the Father from the beginning. In perfect love through the Holy Spirit. He obeyed and did everything the Father says and does. Since before the creation and when he entered creation. Even after Jesus entered creation he obeyed the limits God put on him. Which was bodily limitation, to die before his natural death. His obedience even to death is what we understand as reconciliation with God the Father's perfect love. Through Christ, we are perfect in the Father again. Like Adam before he disobeyed.
@@mitchellc4 Obey God who is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Don't be fooled Mitchell, we were made in their image. There was the Father and the Son before creation. Therefor there was love before creation. Narcissism is not Godly love.
The problem with these young people is that they don’t know anything about respect and humility. That is why they won’t believe or even tried to have to learn about God.
The boy said our lives had been life span longer. When the Old Testament clearly says no one will live longer than the age God had intended from the start. They really are challenging for answer already being answered except God's love which they still harden their hearts to let it.
I don't understand why everyone is assuming that chemicals being the source of emotions and neurons being the source of reason make those things less valuable. It's the cause of emotions or reason, it doesn't take anything away from them.
This is Gods earth and He cares about it very very much. You have to know that! You have to believe that! You have too care as well. So do something that shows that you care too! Please! It is good that you are at least talking about Him and His will for you. Love makes the world go around. ❤️🙏🌈🌎🎶
Have Faith in God people. It's that's simple. I have watched over many videos of this. People just don't wanna have faith in God. They'll give a million reasons not to have faith in God.
@Paul Wieringa if u are in a debate and u are wrong and u think u right guess what u going to look like a fool either way the Bible also say u are a fool if u don’t believe in Christ why because if u don’t u loosing you’re soul fool is not a bad thing do u know what the definition of fool is because u don’t sound like u do
@Paul Wieringa the fact that u don’t believe jc lived those people that wrote the Bible they died for it if it was a lie people would not die for what they know to be a lie people would die for the truth not for something they know to be a lie so that give the Bible more credit But everything the Bible is saying is happening everything that it is saying the only book that predicts the ending It say animals will die by thousands Thousands birds fishes other animals die It also say locust will eat the crops look it up Famine and pestilence look at covid It also say human micro chip Money less currency It also said u will receive the chip on you’re hand or forehead guess where they want to put it u guessed it And many more predictions the Bible say that is happening udk because u never read the Bible u just take what other ppl say and go with it I can tell u haven’t read it because if u read it and u see what’s going around u would understand but u blind still but I’m the dumb one right ??? How can u judge a book and haven’t read it but yea I’m the dumb one 😂
@Paul Wieringa and u talking about me being a fool but udk what is the definition of fool 😂😂😂 bruhhhh how old r u to not know what fool means that’s crazy
@Paul Wieringa no people die because they believe it’s true not because they know it’s a lie bro wtf the terrorist kill themself because they believe they going to heaven with many wife’s they don’t kill themself because they know that it’s it lie they die because they believe it’s the truth
@Paul Wieringa Animals dying by thousands fish washing in the shore thousands dead Thousands of birds falling from the sky dead The presidents all talk about one world gov Bible talks about that The gov talks about human micro chip The Bible talks about that The Bible talks about famines and pestilence Bible talks about that covid 19 The Bible talks about money less currency The Bible talks about that The Bible talks about water turning red Look it up in China water turning red The Bible talks about building the 3rd temple in Israel guess what the gov talking about building it Good will be called bad bad will be called good Gay is called good Preaching Jesus people say it’s hate speech People will hate us the Bible talks about that look up videos of preachers being assaulted and all that They will call us crazy look videos ppl mocking us making fun of us killing us the Bible talks all about that and many more thing it mention and if u believe it’s a conspiracy well let me burst that bubble back in the day they had no inventions no cars no technology to even know that the future there will be cars or phones they had to walk they way to places they had Sandals they didn’t have stuff like we do there was no way they could predict the technology we would have now
Pretty good stuff!! Sounds like they aren’t reformed with respect to Gods Sovereignty, I’d be interested to hear them lovingly debate that with a fellow brother in Christ!
I've watched many of these now and one thing I have noticed is that Cliffe tends to talk over someone when he really doesn't have a good answer for a point someone is making.
Is Grace Community Church also live stream for public to join? I would appriciate it if anyone link their page or site so I can join and hear his great works for our Lord! God bless!
Respectfully, the responses from these young people tells me that colleges are failing. Critical thinking is lost on today’s generation. This is the same reason why Bernie was able to convince young people that socialism is a good thing. These kids are taught what to think instead of how to think. The Hindu gentleman seemed like the one of the few that put thought into his responses even though his arguments ultimately fail.
Many people even if they know, they just don't want Jesus in their lives! How sad that is! To reject Jesus is to not want to have anything to do with Him through which eternal Life flows out! It is to make the choice to remain in the eternal seclusion, which is incredibly tragic, there is nothing worse than that!
Could it be that God simply overrides our free will and chooses whom He will save and whom He won’t save? And that choice is based upon the sovereign choosing of God. He’s God. He can do what He likes. It’s not up to us to question Him. And could it be, that the real reason why He chooses one and not another, is because it’s just His prerogative. He can do whatever He likes and we don’t have to know why. And all this kind of makes sense, if you don’t think about it. But if we don’t factor into the predestination equation, God’s justice and mercy, then hey we aren’t really thinking with a full deck, are we? We know that God is just and merciful proved by the example of Jesus Christ dying on the cross for our sins. And because we know that God never changes, we also know that God didn’t abandon His justice and mercy when He put together the predestination deal. Okay so what’s the deal? Stay with me and let me throw this curve ball at you. Think about this. If you like the idea that you just somehow lucked in because for whatever reason God somehow picked you, like a name out of a hat, then you’re going to be feeling pretty good about that. It’s like being born into a super rich family. You’d be feeling pretty lucky that you’re not born poor. That’s just how it is. Same deal with being predestined by God if you just got lucky. If it’s true that you can say you were a lucky one, if you were born richly predestined, then hey what luck. But knowing that you lucked in, and others weren’t so lucky, you will not be able to escape from the inevitable sense of privilege, just like aristocrats of yesteryear. It’s not a bad feeling too. Kind of boosting. Hence if you like the Calvinistic view of predestination, now you know why. But can you be real with yourself and face it? It’s making you feel important. That’s why you like it. That’s why you’ve bought into it. Can you dig it?
The one young woman who doesn't believe in God is a great example of the unbelievers in hell want to be there. Separated from God. She says she doesn't want eternal life but she's going to get eternal life whether she wants it or not: in hell or heaven. I HOPE SHE CHOOSES JESUS.
@brooklyn again Jesus said that about the people who crucified him, because at that time nobody knew that he was God in the flesh. In this day and age there is more than enough ample opportunity to study the gospels for ourselves to discover whether Jesus was reliable or not.
@@ifrankenstein7455 God's will is far more important than our free will. We won't always have a choice especially when it comes to judgement. If we were allowed a choice then why can't a murderer have a choice to got to jail or not? Where's the free will in that?
21:45 I still don't understand why Jesus had to die to forgive us. There's no connection. Why couldn't God have just forgiven us? 21:50 "Love, real love, sacrifices." Does this mean that I don't really love my parents because I haven't sacrificed anything for them? 22:35 Taking responsibility isn't a sacrifice, it's the beginning of problem-solving.
@B M I will attempt to ignore your grammar in this response and instead focus on the question that you didn't answer. Why did Jesus have to die on the cross? I understand that it's to "pay the fine of sin" but I still don't understand why death was necessary. As God is omnipotent, and this debt of sin was toward God, God could have forgiven it. I don't understand why Jesus' suffering was necessary. And, if sin was such a big deal, why did God place the tree of knowledge in the same vicinity of Adam and Eve in the first place? God's omniscient, so God knew that they'd eat one. If God truly didn't want them to eat it, God wouldn't have created it in the first place. Also, you told me that, not only do I not love my parents, but that I don't care for them or anybody else. However, this is false, I care deeply about my parents and my siblings. I also love them, but since my definition of love (an intense feeling of deep affection) and your definition of love (sacrifice) are different, then what emotion do I feel toward my family?
@B M Okay, once again you dodged my initial question, but I'll copy it at the end of this comment. By the way, the definition that I was using for love "an intense feeling of deep affection." is the dictionary definition. Another definition provided is: "a great interest and pleasure in something". So, you may want to take your issue up with Webster and Oxford as opposed to me. However, the problem with your definition of love is extreme vagueness. Perhaps this is only because you didn't define it, but rather gave examples, so would you mind defining it? Until you do, I'm forced to conclude that helping somebody equals love, but here's my counterexample. I have helped out at a food pantry before and I didn't feel an ounce of love (dictionaries definition) toward the people that I was helping. I have also helped family members (in which I love) do things. So, by your definition of love, I love everybody that I'm willing to help (which would be everybody) and that's a ridiculously broad and vague use for such a strong word like love. I would much rather reserve it for people close to me and that I have a personal and deep connection with. Original Question Repeated: "Why did Jesus have to die on the cross? I understand that it's to "pay the fine of sin" but I still don't understand why death was necessary. As God is omnipotent, and this debt of sin was toward God, God could have forgiven it. I don't understand why Jesus' suffering was necessary. And, if sin was such a big deal, why did God place the tree of knowledge in the same vicinity of Adam and Eve in the first place? God's omniscient, so God knew that they'd eat one. If God truly didn't want them to eat it, God wouldn't have created it in the first place."
@B M Okay, I didn't ask for an example, I asked for a definition. Here's an example. Definition: a statement of the exact meaning of a word, especially in a dictionary. We need to explain our definitions so that we are both on the same page and are able to communicate in an effective manner. The disagreement we seem to have was based on the definition of love. I used the dictionary and you used a different source. I just asked for something more concrete that we can work with. As for my responses, they will go as follows. 1. No, I'm saying Jesus didn't have to do anything for our sins, why would he? What does it do? And, if it just forgives us, why couldn't God just do that without Jesus dying. 2. If God didn't intend for Adam to sin, and Adam sinned, then God made a mistake. (And I say God made a mistake because God is an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, perfect, spiritual being. Nothing can oppose God's will because God has the power to stop it and the knowledge that it would happen. Also, I do recognize that both Adam and Eve made mistakes, I'm merely suggesting that God also did). If God is capable of mistakes, then God is not perfect and then God's definition is no longer accurate. However, if we ignore this and continue with the definition that God is still an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent spiritual being who is not perfect, then why should I trust God's word as absolute truth? This leads to the bible. You say that the answers to my questions are in the Bible and perhaps I should read more of it, but why should I take the Christian Holy text as opposed to all of the other ones? The Kitab-i-Aqdas, Tipitaka, Bhagwat Gita, Ved, Upnishad, Quran, Sunnah, Jain Agamas, Book of Mormon, Kebra Nagast, Holy Piby, Kojiki, Fudoki, Guru Granth Sahib, and Zend Avesta to name a few. Here's an analogy for the Garden of Eve. Imagine you have two young kids. Now, pretend you have to leave them unsupervised for some reason (perhaps you have to go to work). Now, you have some tide pods in the house and you recognize that they would kill the kids should they eat them. Would you, A) Set the colorful box on the table and tell your kids to not eat them, or B) Place them completely out of reach of the kids? God did the former in the Adam and Eve story and I don't understand why.
10:19 First off, our brain operates like a computer, factoring in input and resulting in an output. This makes us robotic to a degree, we must also factor in emotions and social understanding. This being a depressing existence is irrelevant and isn't a counter to the fact. Subjective feelings and value judgements don't override factual information.
@Paul Moody I don't understand, what do you mean? Please enlighten me. I don't recall any section of my comment cutting off the endocrine system. In fact, referencing the brain also references the majority of the endocrine system. However, if I am going to be specific about hormones and such, they help form the equation of human behavior.
What a jokester. Kid takes sociology 101 and learns the word “altruism” - uses it 100x to try and sound smart... gets schooled and truly educated on spot and has is absurd beliefs debunked.... and still holds fast to his ludicrous imaginative ideations. What’s that called? Modern indoctrination through public education.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 It certainly appears to be getting increasingly more rare, at least in the West. I've seen quite a bit of altruism in my 60 years.
@Paul Wieringa I have read the Bible for over 25 years. I have not seen one contradiction. There are events described by separate eyewitnesses. What event is a contradiction?
@Paul Wieringa Jesus was born before the death of Herod. Why do you assume Luke is speaking of the same census event? Records do exist to show that Roman-controlled Egypt had begun a census as early as 10 B.C. The Census Luke is referring could have been earlier. Possible multiple census could have taking place. Luke implies 1st, which raises question if there were others. I would not consider this as a contradiction. Just fuzzy and uncertain historical timeline
It seems that God alerts us to the existence of predestination so that we can get some understanding as to why others won’t accept God’s deal. We the believers have repented because of the orchestrated life that God gave us which made it possible. He gave us this life because He knew we would repent. But for those who won’t repent He doesn’t predestinate. He leaves them to the wiles of Satan. However it seems that Satan’s powers are so overpowering, that if God doesn’t get in there and predestinate, no one will be saved. It takes two to tango. It’s God’s will and our free will. Part of the predestination package is our free will. Those whom God saves are those who will ultimately throw their free will into the deal by saying yes to God. And it’s these ones that He is predestinating. And He tells us of the existence of predestination so we can get some understanding why others don’t become believers. It’s because, intrinsically, they don’t want to be believers. Therefore God doesn’t help them to become something they don’t want to be. But what a sadness. For we sorrow for the lost but with a Godly joy for our own salvation.
I kind of thought u were right but the part u mentioned satan being too powerfull that we can't choose God is wrong which makes me disagree with you in the predestination idea cause we should choose him out of love and not out of reactions to our written life
@@yosephfetene4663 Thanks for your reply. I am sure I could have explained it better. But let’s get it in perspective. If we were to compare Satan to a speck of dust compared to the entire universe, it gives us some idea of his incredible inferiority to God. He is nothing compared to God. However compared to you and I he is much greater. Angels are certainly greater than us. And it’s because of this greatness that God needed to step in and help out and He does so with predestination. Does that explain things better? Here is a video I did on this topic which perhaps you might care to take a look at sometime. God bless you. th-cam.com/video/7Qc4IyNiPZI/w-d-xo.html
When that girl at the end said she didn’t care about God. When I was an atheist I also didn’t care and hated God. Crazy to think where I am now🤍 God bless
After I came to Christ I realized that it's only by God's grace we can be at this point because all the stuff I know now still probably wouldn't have changed me into a Christian. It was purely the mercy and grace of God that brought me to him.
@Paul Moody i meant to say i hated the idea of a god existing. like i would say stuff like that just to piss my family off
Succes in your delusion
@Paul Moody i didn’t comment on your post but on the original one, we’re on the same page
@Paul Moody then the obvious question is if you really believe that God doesn't exist why are you calling yourself an atheist? Why do you assume God is just in a book God is everywhere
Anytime a person says "I don't care about God" or "I don't want eternal life" if you, too, feel extremely sad for that person and yet motivated to show them the love of Christ, that must be God's Spirit within.
I can remember back to a time where I also didn't care. Thank God for His mercy and grace!
God wants no one to Perish. Christ Followers should have the same heart. 2 Peter 3:9 Philippians 2:5
@Paul Wieringa Agreed. But God, exists. 'The Certainty of God's Existence'
www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/GTY66/the-certainty-of-gods-existence
“That must be God’s Spirit who within.”
Logical fallacy.
Amen. Thank you, Lord!
@@justsomeguy6336 fallacy? Please explain
Sadly, this generation increasingly thinks that disagreement is hate. So, they cannot be friends with their ideological opponents - in fact, too often they hate them.
This is because people don't think the truth is outside of ourselves, to be freely dialogued over. They think it lives within their identity, so to contradict them is deeply, personally offensive.
This is the greater problem. We are getting close to a situation where controlling debate and disagreement is seen as an act of compassion and virtue. In reality, it'll destroy more than it saves.
As a footnote, another answer lies in the Cliffes and Stuarts of this world. They are an example to all in the way to conduct oneself.
Dude, that's so true. That is why when people debate the end result is nothing but anger :(
I think it's more based on the justifications for bad behavior that religious people used and defend by pointing to their god.
"I didn't decide that God did, and he's perfect."
The common rejection of science is another factor, often picking and choosing which science is real to them, and denying the rest.
HERE IS OUR SAVIOR
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
I think you hit the nail on the head with this one
Believing is the root of all evil so it’s a good thing this generation prefers to think and experience
You are a great counsellor and preacher. May God bless you Pastor.
Amen.
@@OneSleeve878 Amen.
@@mitchellc4 John 10 :30 jesus says I and the father are one (he literally LITERALLY SAID I AND GOD (FATHER)ARE ONE)
@@mitchellc4 r
21:11 I pray that the girl finds out that she is so valuable. That God loves her so much, and that’s has so much in store for her.
@Paul Moody yes I’m sure she is love by her friends and family. Well God created us, so He literally offered everything. But He also offered to take our punishment. The wages of sin is death. We have All done something against God. Back before Jesus died, to be forgiven, you had to give sacrifices like sheep, to God, over and over again. But Jesus became the ultimate sacrifice. So all we need to do is ask and receive forgiveness. Again it’s up to you to accept that forgiveness. IF God was real (I’m saying if because you don’t believe in God so I want to speak in your perspective) IF God isn’t real, than love is just science. So our family friends, their love would just be a chemical reaction. But ofc Im sure you love your family and friends, and that it’s genuine. But it can’t be made by science. There has to be a creator. Many atheists believe in the things that make sense and can be proven, like science and things you can see physically. But love is not physical, it’s not science, so what is it? I didn’t want to try questioning your belief, but because you questioned mine I believe I can also question yours. Just the way I can’t give you science facts to prove God’s existence 100%, you can prove to me 100% God isn’t real, because I have had my personal experiences with God, and no matter what anyone tells me, my mind won’t be changed, I’m guessing the same as your mind won’t change about God not being real. I respect you. And I really wish the best for you. All I can say is, my life is better because of God, and His love for me and for YOU is real, even when the world hates Him, He will continue to love. God bless you.
I also want to be fertilizer
@@ifrankenstein7455 lmfao
I wasn’t aware of nature until I was born again, before that I took everything for granted... once I was born again everything becomes a new and then I saw God and everything The wind , the rain , the flowers 🌺, the bees 🐝 , the birds were all singing praises to God...✅
Lay off the drugs.
@@justsomeguy6336 he is right.
@@madhands9887 prove it
@@justsomeguy6336 Why does it bother you so much?
Yes! Me too!! You see God’a hand in everything…everywhere I look I’m in awe ♥️ At the same time looking how tiny I am and you have this fear of God!
The devil has lied to these kids in a tremendous way. It’s incredible!! Lord reveal truth to these kids. My goodness they are deceived.
Who has been deceived? I know of absolutely no evidence for devils (or gods for that matter). I suspect that these kids have neither seen one or heard one either. They remind me of the child in "The Emperor has no clothes" capable of thinking for themselves and applying critical thinking rather than believing stuff just because someone said so.
@@paulhadlington8179 witchcrafts real. I was an atheist and then got into witchcraft. I remember during this time I was suicidal, obsessive, depressed and anxious all the time. I saw demons and felt their presence. You might think I’m crazy but there is something more after death. I know this for sure. I called out to God if there even was one and asked Him for a sign. I begged and asked Him for just one sign. That’s all I wanted. The next day I had forgotten what I even asked for the day before. I walked to school, open the doors of the building, and walked in. I was early to class so I decided to take a detour and walk around just to kill time. I walked into an art exhibit at the school, I saw a sculpture of a man and written under it were the words “Jesus will be here soon”. This is when I knew it wasn’t just a coincidence. It was the sign I asked for. From that day on, I researched more about it. I don’t like to be called a Christian, rather I am a follower of Christ. It’s not a religion, it’s a relationship with Him. I have never felt more satisfied, content and reassured in my life before ever since I put my faith in Him. Once you put your faith in Him, you will be reborn with a new heart. That doesn’t mean I am perfect, we will never be perfect. Only God is. I don’t worship Christ because I don’t want to go to hell, it’s because I love Him and He loves me unconditionally. We can talk more if you’d like, I’d love to answer any questions you have. I’m not here to convert you or force you. Besides God doesn’t want us to be forced into loving Him. He gave us free will for that reason lol. Anyways sorry I rambled a bit too much, good day to you.
@Paul Moody no no we have free will here yes but Satan is the force that people recognize more then they recognize God, people see more darkness, power and control then they see light that represents all forms of love in this world & that’s always been Satan’s agenda, our actions are our actions but Satans actions is in a collective group of perspective, manipulation, & deception amongst targeted individuals
@Paul Moody nothing in this world can be made up, even when its imaginary, everything is created and applied upon that creation either through thoughts or actions 🌌
@Paul Moody You just might be confused by the analogy lol its okay you'll get the concept one of these days!! :)
My hats off to Cliff and he’s son Stuart for the amount of patience and the work they done with these people God knows I would’ve lost it lol great job guys I’ve learned so much just from watching this channel thank you
It is SO COLD OUT THERE, yet they are still sticking around. Why do I think that is so cool. They are staving for the truth and they don’t even know it
Mr. Knechtle I love your speaking style and passion. I am beginning to watch all your videos and I am a huge fan. Praise Jesus!
@@mitchellc4 you’re wrong. Jesus is God. God is a triunity. The father, son, and Holy Spirit
So sad that a lot of youth have no higher perspective on life then everything is coincidence.
Religion is the opiate of the masses
@@dannielz6 False
IT NEVER FAILS...CRAZY HOW PEOPLE WANT TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE SO SMART TO THE POINT THAT THEY WILL GRASP FOR STRAWS JUST TO PROVE A POINT AND MAKE THEMSELVES SEEM SMARTER THAN THEY REALLY ARE. PRIDE COMES BEFORE THE FALL!!
May the Lord transform those 2 lads opposing the gospel into mighty fine preachers of the gospel, in Jesus name!
@Paul Moody it appears sir that your questioning mind has been callused into a certain belief that God is not a good God. Whatever you’ve been through that has caused you pain, God knows about it, and wants to remove it. Putting a wall between you and God isn’t profitable nor is it going to help you, so you can either continue to endure what you are describing, or you can surrender to the One who created us and let him fill you with joy, peace and love and happiness and maybe one day you can be on the other side of a comment such as yours urging that person to rethink what they believe. A holy life isn’t necessarily easy but it is certainly rewarding. If you want to receive the promises of God from the Bible then the sinful life must go. Hence why it is called the sacrifice of righteousness (Psalm 4:5).
Aaaaaamen
I don't search for meaning. I look around and can't believe it was all just by chance. Trees, grass, bugs, animals, rocks, gems, the stars, humans, cats fur, whiskers and eyes, human eyes, our organs... it's just takes too much faith to be an Atheist. As you say... intelligent design demands an Intelligent Creator. You always amaze me with your patience. And now your son showing the same traits. Wonderful
I'm watching these because I love the interactions between humans. Also, I love Jesus. But the way you are able to keep most people intellectually honest amazes me. I'm 39 and just turning my life around now. I can only hope to have such gusto one day. Thank you for the videos. I can't stop watching!
Papa/son love at 8:40. So good to see!
Amen brother Cliffe! Ive been following you for a while, your videos are packed with so many gems of wisdom. I like to watch you before I go out and preach at my school. You can tell by your fruits and your unique approach that you’re a true man of God, born for such a time as this…in the midst of so much confusion and darkness. I hope you keep up the good work brother, and I pray that God blesses the path you walk! Such an awesome encouragement…feeling pumped!!! Praise be to the most high!
My brother I pray to God to give me the Gul to do it
Self-sacrifice works on your depression your self-esteem yourself worth etc. When you help somebody else expecting nothing in return depression diminishes self-esteem and self worth increase. I was horribly abused from age four until my mother passed away two years ago. The only thing that saved me was self-sacrifice. I went into the medical field and worked my heart out for others. I then went into social work due to disabilities and worked my heart out for others. I know that I have done what the Lord wants me to do I believe I was put here to care for others. As soon as I can get out of my house in a wheelchair next week I will be at a soup kitchen or volunteering through a church. I have made a mark on people's hearts and that is my greatest joy along with receiving the love of Jesus Christ!
Hi! What an amazing message. When we truly look at our life, there is a silver lining of God's grace. ❤
22:38 I have this memory, I must’ve been 3. Parents thought I was asleep. I was going to go in their room to sleep because I couldn’t on my own, but I heard yelling. It scared me. I heard things I couldn’t understand and can’t remember, but I knew they were angry with each other. I sat in the hall, and this is my clear memory:
Why do they keep yelling? I don’t get it. Just hug each other. Stop yelling.
I have another memory. I got older, and I valued my intelligence. In fact, I valued intelligence above all personal attributes a person can have. I reflected on the earlier memory and thought:
Huh. I was so sure I was right at that time, that they could just stop fighting and make up. But that’s not how it works; one of them has to win, then the fight can be over when one of them accepts they lost.
So here I am now. I agree with three year old me. Maybe one of them is right and one is wrong, but it’s RIGHT to make peace, and WRONG to stoke strife. It doesn’t matter if one person is absolutely right and the other is absolutely wrong. They’re both in the wrong for turning a misunderstanding, or a disagreement, into a destructive battle.
Man, I was a wise 3 year old!
Very impressed that your Son is standing with you and supporting the truth he was taught. VERY GOOD JOB as a Father .
S I N is always the problem and the HEART is always the issue.
Great to hear from you and your son. God bless you.
@@mitchellc4Read John 10:30 and John 14:6
The last girl was really hurt about something within her life, I could tell. I’m glad Cliffe realized that and said what he said and how he said. I hope she finds the Truth.
Cliffe reminds me of Doc from back from the future😊. Telling us how to do it with passion! Good Job Cliffe.
Credit to Cliff. He dives straight into the pit to face the wolves and snakes armed only with the word.
It’s sad. Jesus says “I love you” and people answer back with “love is just a chemical reaction” Jesus is simple and straightforward, but the world tries to complicate things. I hope people understand God loves, just because He loves us. Not because we deserve God’s love, but because His love is unconditional.
@Paul Moody and this is why, I know you aren’t fully educated on the Bible. There is both the Old Testament and the New Testament. When Jesus died, the old rules, were not longer something we followed. We don’t give living sacrifices anymore right? People can get divorced right? Forgiveness was given to us on the cross, and a lot of the Old Testament rules are no longer followed. The things you say about His love not being unconditional, is also not correct. If His live was conditional, we would not have freedom, or the first sin we committed, God would have sent us to hell already. I never understood why people think like this, God shows us, He loves us, people refuse to love Him, and you think God will allow you in heaven? His home? To someone who doesn’t love God? Hell WASNT made as a threat, Hell is a place that shows us, that apart from God, everything else is evil and dark. Satan was Lucifer once, an angel, but he wanted to be more, he wanted to be God, and God saw his evil heart and sent Him to hell. It isn’t a threat, it is the outcome of being apart from God. You can’t just say “I don’t love God” but expect eternal peace with Him in heaven?
@Paul Moody slavery isn’t even promoted in the Bible, give me a verse to back it up please?
@Paul Moody at the end of the day, there is only to places, heaven and hell. God isn’t making it hard for anyone to believe? The Bible is there, it is up to you to have faith. Without faith you won’t believe, you’ll doubt. Believe me I felt and thought the same way as you. I wondered, so being a good person isn’t enough to go to heaven? Because I would meet really nice people who weren’t christians. But I learned, we are ALL sinners. We all deserve hell. People get offended when someone says “we all deserve hell” but we arent perfect, we arent saints, we have done something against God. So people wonder “why did God make us imperfect and to be able to sin? Wouldn’t he just have to make us perfect so no one goes to hell?” And this is where unconditional love comes from. If God made us these robot type humans who have no choice but to love him, that would be manipulation. Not love. But He gave you a free will. Freedom. So you don’t have to believe in God, it’s up to you. But you can except to go to heaven, or be happy after death if you didn’t wanna follow the creator of everything?
@Paul Moody it is your decision. I respect anyone who chooses (remember you have the freedom to choose which God gave you) to believe or not believe. You wouldn’t alllow a stranger into your home right? If they say “oh I’m a good person let me in” you will still not let them in. God gives us a chance on earth, if we don’t take it when we face Him, He tells us “depart from me I never knew you” the Bible says that. God won’t allow someone who hates or doesn’t believe in Him to His kingdom. And the same with you, you don’t want to believe in God so you don’t want anything that involves God, so hell is a place that God’s presence is not present. But Jesus died for you. He took your sins. The wages of sin is death, and Jesus took that punishment of death (death and also the wrath of God, which Jesus experienced God’s full wrath, since Jesus carried every Human’s sin, He at the moment was not holy), so you wouldn’t. experience the punishment you deserve, that I deserve. People try to find all reasons to not believe in God, but God will always love you. But love does not equal justification. We sin, SOMEONE had to take the punishment. Jesus did. But it doesn’t mean we automatically get forgiven at birth, we have to live for God, which is such a beautiful thing. To know you were never alone, that every day when you wake up, it was God who woke you up, that your breakfast, your education, your family, your health, your room, it’s all blessings. When you realize that blessings are every where, a new way of living will open for you
@Paul Moody it’s your decision to not believe in God. Also you do realize we are all not “good” we have all done something wrong. So we all deserve this eternal agony. But Jesus is offering to give u a better place to be because being non existent is not an option. But AGAIN, your life, your decision. In my eyes yes, other religions are not true, the same way other religions don’t think Christianity is true. It is called respect. I respect you, I respect other religions, period. So if you do not want to believe in God or any god that is fine, but death is something no one can avoid, so I guess you have to find out what’s gonna happen after death. It is YOUR choice. No one is forcing you. I am only here to show you, and tell you that God loves you. You may not see or understand God, it still won’t change that he loves you 🤷🏻♀️😭 God bless
His job is difficult dealing with young people who think they know everything, and have no experience at life...only partying....
Pretty presumptuous of you to say all of these students are only partying.
It's sad for that young lady. Seems that something happened in her life that makes her feel that way. Thank God for thru Cliff he extended love, acceptance and grace. Because in side that's what we all yearn for.
I love this guy, he's awesome
Just a beautiful message on sacrificial love.
Thank you for another video~!
Loving Cliffe’s energy on these newer videos!
This is so good, I hope you guys upload more :)
@@mitchellc4 Jesus is god in the human form
Thanks again. Spot on
Just be in GOD'S PRESENCE! HE WILL HELP YOU!
Cliffe and Stuart and 2 peas in a pod. Very well spoken and highly intelligent. Good job guys. The Holy Spirit is strong with these 2
The lady at the end manifested bless her soul hope she gets delivered
One student say I don't think there has to be a purpose for life??!
Why is going to University then?! Are we wasting money sending our kids to school?!
God bless you Cliffe and Stuart 🙏
You two shake the kingdom of darkness keep goin!!!
I’m proud of you teach people over the world and Peace be with you John 20:21
Thank you!
I have so many questions for the girl who said “I don’t want eternal life.” What experiences has she gone through to make her say such a thing? What sort of view or interpretation of God and eternal life does she have that would make her think she doesn’t want that and instead would want to just simply rot in the ground after 80 years on earth?
In prison they call kids like this fish.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
RSV
Only-monos
God-theos
Monos theos
Monotheism
The Father
Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)!
Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God!
Jesus has a God!
Jesus died!
God can’t die!
God raised Jesus from the dead!
😂😂😂😂
So you’ve been in prison.
really thankful for you cliffe
Great talk guys!!
This is so much fun. I pray Saint Cliff gets copycats. I've heard preachers and evangelists @ UC Berkeley but there should be more @ every University. God Love you+ ;-)
The most important reason for God to give us free will, is for true love to exist. Robots don't love genuinely, they MUST produce actions that are programmed in them to look like love. The free choice is what makes it true love. You aren't forced to.
God put limits on Adam and Eve, because a father who puts no limits on his children does not truly love them.
The limit was for their good and holding to God's word was how Adam and Eve showed love to God. That was perfection.
They were materially provided for and immaterially provided for.
The free will to choose to disobey and not disobeying was what made the love between Adam and God perfectly true.
Once he disobeyed, their relationship was no longer perfect and death entered the picture.
Jesus was with the Father from the beginning. In perfect love through the Holy Spirit.
He obeyed and did everything the Father says and does.
Since before the creation and when he entered creation.
Even after Jesus entered creation he obeyed the limits God put on him. Which was bodily limitation, to die before his natural death.
His obedience even to death is what we understand as reconciliation with God the Father's perfect love.
Through Christ, we are perfect in the Father again. Like Adam before he disobeyed.
@@mitchellc4 Obey God who is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Don't be fooled Mitchell, we were made in their image.
There was the Father and the Son before creation. Therefor there was love before creation. Narcissism is not Godly love.
The problem with these young people is that they don’t know anything about respect and humility. That is why they won’t believe or even tried to have to learn about God.
Cliff is on FIRE 🔥 in this one!
God isn't stepping back, God is in complete control of everything!
20:16 Give that girl a hug brah
Jesus Christ is Lord 👑🙏Maranatha
The boy said our lives had been life span longer. When the Old Testament clearly says no one will live longer than the age God had intended from the start. They really are challenging for answer already being answered except God's love which they still harden their hearts to let it.
Love your talks at the end God bless
I don't understand why everyone is assuming that chemicals being the source of emotions and neurons being the source of reason make those things less valuable. It's the cause of emotions or reason, it doesn't take anything away from them.
This is Gods earth and He cares about it very very much. You have to know that! You have to believe that! You have too care as well. So do something that shows that you care too! Please! It is good that you are at least talking about Him and His will for you. Love makes the world go around. ❤️🙏🌈🌎🎶
Have Faith in God people. It's that's simple. I have watched over many videos of this. People just don't wanna have faith in God. They'll give a million reasons not to have faith in God.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
The girl at the end would rethink what she said if she only saw heaven for 1 minute. We underestimate how long eternity is.
The girl in the brown hoodie was a good conversation mediator 😂 bless her
Keep it up gentlemen
7:10 wow he is amazing how he just made them look like a fool
@Paul Wieringa if u are in a debate and u are wrong and u think u right guess what u going to look like a fool either way the Bible also say u are a fool if u don’t believe in Christ why because if u don’t u loosing you’re soul fool is not a bad thing do u know what the definition of fool is because u don’t sound like u do
@Paul Wieringa the fact that u don’t believe jc lived those people that wrote the Bible they died for it if it was a lie people would not die for what they know to be a lie people would die for the truth not for something they know to be a lie so that give the Bible more credit
But everything the Bible is saying is happening everything that it is saying the only book that predicts the ending
It say animals will die by thousands
Thousands birds fishes other animals die
It also say locust will eat the crops look it up
Famine and pestilence look at covid
It also say human micro chip
Money less currency
It also said u will receive the chip on you’re hand or forehead guess where they want to put it u guessed it
And many more predictions the Bible say that is happening udk because u never read the Bible u just take what other ppl say and go with it I can tell u haven’t read it because if u read it and u see what’s going around u would understand but u blind still but I’m the dumb one right ??? How can u judge a book and haven’t read it but yea I’m the dumb one 😂
@Paul Wieringa and u talking about me being a fool but udk what is the definition of fool 😂😂😂 bruhhhh how old r u to not know what fool means that’s crazy
@Paul Wieringa no people die because they believe it’s true not because they know it’s a lie bro wtf the terrorist kill themself because they believe they going to heaven with many wife’s they don’t kill themself because they know that it’s it lie they die because they believe it’s the truth
@Paul Wieringa
Animals dying by thousands fish washing in the shore thousands dead
Thousands of birds falling from the sky dead
The presidents all talk about one world gov
Bible talks about that
The gov talks about human micro chip
The Bible talks about that
The Bible talks about famines and pestilence
Bible talks about that covid 19
The Bible talks about money less currency
The Bible talks about that
The Bible talks about water turning red
Look it up in China water turning red
The Bible talks about building the 3rd temple in Israel guess what the gov talking about building it
Good will be called bad bad will be called good
Gay is called good
Preaching Jesus people say it’s hate speech
People will hate us the Bible talks about that look up videos of preachers being assaulted and all that
They will call us crazy look videos ppl mocking us making fun of us killing us the Bible talks all about that and many more thing it mention and if u believe it’s a conspiracy well let me burst that bubble back in the day they had no inventions no cars no technology to even know that the future there will be cars or phones they had to walk they way to places they had Sandals they didn’t have stuff like we do there was no way they could predict the technology we would have now
"When she says 'I love you', look her back in the eyes and say...." HAHA I love it!
Its silly. Same reason why we dont walk around telling people Theyre fat or ugly.
i aint guna lie sometimes i curse at god when things are goin bad but then i always regret it
Nice video.
How do you answer that ? His
Answer was absolutely .
The "cross traffic does not stop"traffic sign in the background seems more then a coincidence.
If no one on earth could love would love still exist?
Taped at the University of Texas-Austin.
Some of these kids forever learning and never coming to the knowledge of truth....
Great video and great responses!
2:48 I'm so glad Cliffe pointed out how it's only been 19 years 🥴
I don't know if I'm watching this video to learn or to just watch Stuart speak 😊🙈
Pretty good stuff!! Sounds like they aren’t reformed with respect to Gods Sovereignty, I’d be interested to hear them lovingly debate that with a fellow brother in Christ!
What makes you say that?
I've watched many of these now and one thing I have noticed is that Cliffe tends to talk over someone when he really doesn't have a good answer for a point someone is making.
Is Grace Community Church also live stream for public to join? I would appriciate it if anyone link their page or site so I can join and hear his great works for our Lord! God bless!
Because he first loved us
As the Lord said, professing to be wise they have become fools .
Respectfully, the responses from these young people tells me that colleges are failing. Critical thinking is lost on today’s generation. This is the same reason why Bernie was able to convince young people that socialism is a good thing. These kids are taught what to think instead of how to think. The Hindu gentleman seemed like the one of the few that put thought into his responses even though his arguments ultimately fail.
This guy is good
Proverbs 13:24 Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.
Many people even if they know, they just don't want Jesus in their lives! How sad that is! To reject Jesus is to not want to have anything to do with Him through which eternal Life flows out! It is to make the choice to remain in the eternal seclusion, which is incredibly tragic, there is nothing worse than that!
I love this
Could it be that God simply overrides our free will and chooses whom He will save and whom He won’t save?
And that choice is based upon the sovereign choosing of God. He’s God. He can do what He likes. It’s not up to us to question Him.
And could it be, that the real reason why He chooses one and not another, is because it’s just His prerogative.
He can do whatever He likes and we don’t have to know why.
And all this kind of makes sense, if you don’t think about it.
But if we don’t factor into the predestination equation, God’s justice and mercy, then hey we aren’t really thinking with a full deck, are we?
We know that God is just and merciful proved by the example of Jesus Christ dying on the cross for our sins.
And because we know that God never changes, we also know that God didn’t abandon His justice and mercy when He put together the predestination deal.
Okay so what’s the deal?
Stay with me and let me throw this curve ball at you.
Think about this.
If you like the idea that you just somehow lucked in because for whatever reason God somehow picked you, like a name out of a hat, then you’re going to be feeling pretty good about that.
It’s like being born into a super rich family. You’d be feeling pretty lucky that you’re not born poor. That’s just how it is.
Same deal with being predestined by God if you just got lucky.
If it’s true that you can say you were a lucky one, if you were born richly predestined, then hey what luck.
But knowing that you lucked in, and others weren’t so lucky, you will not be able to escape from the inevitable sense of privilege, just like aristocrats of yesteryear.
It’s not a bad feeling too.
Kind of boosting.
Hence if you like the Calvinistic view of predestination, now you know why.
But can you be real with yourself and face it?
It’s making you feel important.
That’s why you like it.
That’s why you’ve bought into it.
Can you dig it?
The one young woman who doesn't believe in God is a great example of the unbelievers in hell want to be there. Separated from God. She says she doesn't want eternal life but she's going to get eternal life whether she wants it or not: in hell or heaven. I HOPE SHE CHOOSES JESUS.
@brooklyn again Jesus said that about the people who crucified him, because at that time nobody knew that he was God in the flesh. In this day and age there is more than enough ample opportunity to study the gospels for ourselves to discover whether Jesus was reliable or not.
Where's the freewill in that
@@ifrankenstein7455 God's will is far more important than our free will.
We won't always have a choice especially when it comes to judgement.
If we were allowed a choice then why can't a murderer have a choice to got to jail or not? Where's the free will in that?
That’s started in the garden. We have to go to the very beginning. :-)
21:45 I still don't understand why Jesus had to die to forgive us. There's no connection. Why couldn't God have just forgiven us?
21:50 "Love, real love, sacrifices." Does this mean that I don't really love my parents because I haven't sacrificed anything for them?
22:35 Taking responsibility isn't a sacrifice, it's the beginning of problem-solving.
@B M I will attempt to ignore your grammar in this response and instead focus on the question that you didn't answer. Why did Jesus have to die on the cross? I understand that it's to "pay the fine of sin" but I still don't understand why death was necessary. As God is omnipotent, and this debt of sin was toward God, God could have forgiven it. I don't understand why Jesus' suffering was necessary. And, if sin was such a big deal, why did God place the tree of knowledge in the same vicinity of Adam and Eve in the first place? God's omniscient, so God knew that they'd eat one. If God truly didn't want them to eat it, God wouldn't have created it in the first place.
Also, you told me that, not only do I not love my parents, but that I don't care for them or anybody else. However, this is false, I care deeply about my parents and my siblings. I also love them, but since my definition of love (an intense feeling of deep affection) and your definition of love (sacrifice) are different, then what emotion do I feel toward my family?
@B M Okay, once again you dodged my initial question, but I'll copy it at the end of this comment. By the way, the definition that I was using for love "an intense feeling of deep affection." is the dictionary definition. Another definition provided is: "a great interest and pleasure in something". So, you may want to take your issue up with Webster and Oxford as opposed to me.
However, the problem with your definition of love is extreme vagueness. Perhaps this is only because you didn't define it, but rather gave examples, so would you mind defining it? Until you do, I'm forced to conclude that helping somebody equals love, but here's my counterexample. I have helped out at a food pantry before and I didn't feel an ounce of love (dictionaries definition) toward the people that I was helping. I have also helped family members (in which I love) do things. So, by your definition of love, I love everybody that I'm willing to help (which would be everybody) and that's a ridiculously broad and vague use for such a strong word like love. I would much rather reserve it for people close to me and that I have a personal and deep connection with.
Original Question Repeated: "Why did Jesus have to die on the cross? I understand that it's to "pay the fine of sin" but I still don't understand why death was necessary. As God is omnipotent, and this debt of sin was toward God, God could have forgiven it. I don't understand why Jesus' suffering was necessary. And, if sin was such a big deal, why did God place the tree of knowledge in the same vicinity of Adam and Eve in the first place? God's omniscient, so God knew that they'd eat one. If God truly didn't want them to eat it, God wouldn't have created it in the first place."
@B M Okay, I didn't ask for an example, I asked for a definition. Here's an example. Definition: a statement of the exact meaning of a word, especially in a dictionary. We need to explain our definitions so that we are both on the same page and are able to communicate in an effective manner. The disagreement we seem to have was based on the definition of love. I used the dictionary and you used a different source. I just asked for something more concrete that we can work with. As for my responses, they will go as follows.
1. No, I'm saying Jesus didn't have to do anything for our sins, why would he? What does it do? And, if it just forgives us, why couldn't God just do that without Jesus dying.
2. If God didn't intend for Adam to sin, and Adam sinned, then God made a mistake. (And I say God made a mistake because God is an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, perfect, spiritual being. Nothing can oppose God's will because God has the power to stop it and the knowledge that it would happen. Also, I do recognize that both Adam and Eve made mistakes, I'm merely suggesting that God also did). If God is capable of mistakes, then God is not perfect and then God's definition is no longer accurate. However, if we ignore this and continue with the definition that God is still an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent spiritual being who is not perfect, then why should I trust God's word as absolute truth? This leads to the bible. You say that the answers to my questions are in the Bible and perhaps I should read more of it, but why should I take the Christian Holy text as opposed to all of the other ones? The Kitab-i-Aqdas, Tipitaka, Bhagwat Gita, Ved, Upnishad, Quran, Sunnah, Jain Agamas, Book of Mormon, Kebra Nagast, Holy Piby, Kojiki, Fudoki, Guru Granth Sahib, and Zend Avesta to name a few.
Here's an analogy for the Garden of Eve. Imagine you have two young kids. Now, pretend you have to leave them unsupervised for some reason (perhaps you have to go to work). Now, you have some tide pods in the house and you recognize that they would kill the kids should they eat them. Would you, A) Set the colorful box on the table and tell your kids to not eat them, or B) Place them completely out of reach of the kids? God did the former in the Adam and Eve story and I don't understand why.
10:19 First off, our brain operates like a computer, factoring in input and resulting in an output. This makes us robotic to a degree, we must also factor in emotions and social understanding. This being a depressing existence is irrelevant and isn't a counter to the fact. Subjective feelings and value judgements don't override factual information.
@Paul Moody I don't understand, what do you mean? Please enlighten me. I don't recall any section of my comment cutting off the endocrine system. In fact, referencing the brain also references the majority of the endocrine system. However, if I am going to be specific about hormones and such, they help form the equation of human behavior.
Pretty simple to me if you don't want eternal life don't worry about God
What a jokester. Kid takes sociology 101 and learns the word “altruism” - uses it 100x to try and sound smart... gets schooled and truly educated on spot and has is absurd beliefs debunked.... and still holds fast to his ludicrous imaginative ideations. What’s that called? Modern indoctrination through public education.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Why do you believe that altruism is extremely rare?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 I should have said 'what evidence do you have that it is Extremely rare'?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 It certainly appears to be getting increasingly more rare, at least in the West. I've seen quite a bit of altruism in my 60 years.
Why do these people just let this guy blab unchallenged?
In all, we have the cross, empty tomb and resurrection. The evidence stands on it’s own. The greatest news to ever touch the ears of man kind
@Paul Wieringa confusing? It’s clear
@Paul Wieringa I have read the Bible for over 25 years. I have not seen one contradiction. There are events described by separate eyewitnesses. What event is a contradiction?
@Paul Wieringa Jesus was born before the death of Herod. Why do you assume Luke is speaking of the same census event? Records do exist to show that Roman-controlled Egypt had begun a census as early as 10 B.C. The Census Luke is referring could have been earlier. Possible multiple census could have taking place. Luke implies 1st, which raises question if there were others. I would not consider this as a contradiction. Just fuzzy and uncertain historical timeline
Look how the children gather. There's a famine of the living word of God.
That’s the same guy from change my mind
It seems that God alerts us to the existence of predestination so that we can get some understanding as to why others won’t accept God’s deal.
We the believers have repented because of the orchestrated life that God gave us which made it possible.
He gave us this life because He knew we would repent.
But for those who won’t repent He doesn’t predestinate.
He leaves them to the wiles of Satan.
However it seems that Satan’s powers are so overpowering, that if God doesn’t get in there and predestinate, no one will be saved.
It takes two to tango.
It’s God’s will and our free will.
Part of the predestination package is our free will.
Those whom God saves are those who will ultimately throw their free will into the deal by saying yes to God. And it’s these ones that He is predestinating.
And He tells us of the existence of predestination so we can get some understanding why others don’t become believers.
It’s because, intrinsically, they don’t want to be believers. Therefore God doesn’t help them to become something they don’t want to be.
But what a sadness.
For we sorrow for the lost but with a Godly joy for our own salvation.
I kind of thought u were right but the part u mentioned satan being too powerfull that we can't choose God is wrong which makes me disagree with you in the predestination idea cause we should choose him out of love and not out of reactions to our written life
@@yosephfetene4663 Thanks for your reply. I am sure I could have explained it better.
But let’s get it in perspective.
If we were to compare Satan to a speck of dust compared to the entire universe, it gives us some idea of his incredible inferiority to God.
He is nothing compared to God.
However compared to you and I he is much greater. Angels are certainly greater than us.
And it’s because of this greatness that God needed to step in and help out and He does so with predestination.
Does that explain things better?
Here is a video I did on this topic which perhaps you might care to take a look at sometime. God bless you.
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She will care about God when she’s kneeling in front of him begging for another chance.
I had an uncle named Robert Shaw.
Girl at the end is a cry for help
How many times does that guy have to say the word “altruism?” Lol