if Christ is the only mediator between God and man and all in Christ are equal then a man has no more authority than a woman to speak on these matters. Perhaps in the physical churches, and perhaps between those who are in Christ and those who are not, but in the spiritual body of Christ, all are equal. There is no man that comes between God and his offspring otherwise that would completely change the dynamic and thus the entire gospel. PS the New Testament is not the Old Testament.
This topic has been genuinely confusing me for a while. To the best of your ability could you please help me reconcile all of this? Paul said he doesn't permit women to teach, does that mean he's setting it as a rule or explain to Timothy how he personally ran the church, then also why he mentions how they should prophesy if he was saying that they shouldn't speak. Anothe rthing for me is Priscilla, she was a missionary so she went around with her husband teaching and preaching as a woman and was commended by Paul. Its really confusing to me could you grant me your view on this to help understand how to interpret all of this given the context?
@@Covenant_living Hello🙂. So Apostle Paul spake as he was moved by the holy ghost, set forth tht rule/commandment in the church to tell tht though women can prophecy (telling wat happens in the future by the holy ghost), women cannot preach because in order to be a God sent preacher u must be called, sent, and anointed to preach the gospel, while usurping authority over the people/congregation (teaching comes along as well). Women cannot usurp authority over the man because God said set a man over the congregation, in the beginning it caused all of mankind to suffer due to Eve being deceived, and Adam was formed first later on ruling over his wife. It was told in Titus 2:4 tht the aged woman may teach the younger woman how they ought to be and act. As to Priscilla, she was with her husband while they took in Apollos and helped Paul but she never preached only helped and ministered needs and service to all which they did. Jesus himself never took a woman to send her into the world to preach, he only took men. I do not intend to hurt anyone’s feelings or offend them in any way but the truth is the truth. God bless😇🙏
@@hezekiahwebber4918U never see a plane or tv or cell phone or car in the Bible either. NOT EVEN A PULPIT but here we are. Just because God didn’t pick women doesn’t mean he doesn’t approve of women in high positions of authority. More and more men are dying now at a rate never before seen in history so all you will HAVE left ARE women. God blessed women to be doctors and cops and mayors and firefighters but a woman can’t proclaim God’s word? More men have pussied out of their God ordained positions (husbands/fathers leaving their families/punks) leaving women to act as both mom AND dad while “DAD” acted like a weak punk and run from his responsibilities. Miss me with all that.
@JuanTorres-777 Acts 16:13-16 recounts the story of the first church in Europe. At Philippi, Paul encountered a group of women praying. One was Lydia, who opened her home to Paul and the new converts. In Phil. 4:3, we learn of two other women in the Philippian church, Euodia and Syntyche, who Paul said, “labored with me in the gospel.” When Paul arrived in Corinth, Priscilla and Aquila invited him to stay with them until they all relocated to Ephesus some months later. When Paul left Ephesus for his missionary tour, he left Priscilla and Aquila in charge of the church that met in their home. When Apollos arrived in Ephesus, he was an eloquent believer and teacher, but was uninstructed in some doctrines. Priscilla and Aquila taught him more about the gospel. This remarkable couple are mentioned six times in the New Testament, and most of the time Priscilla is mentioned first (contrary to the culture) suggesting that Paul considered her the leader of the two. Let’s not forget Phoebe, who Paul mentioned in Romans 16:1 as a “deacon of the church of Cenchrea.” (The Greek word is Diaconos) She carried Paul’s letter to the Romans from Greece - a perilous journey by sea and land. Paul commended her work in the church at Cenchrea. In I Corinthians 12, Romans 12:6-8 and Eph.4:11 Paul discusses at length the “spiritual gifts” given to the church. Nowhere does Paul say that certain gifts or callings are for men and others for women. All are given by the Spirit to build up the church.
@JuanTorres-777 I can go on and on with scripture. Allow the HOLY SPIRIT the SPIRIT of Truth to enlighten your understanding of the WORD OF the living GOD.
The first person to preach the gospel was a woman. What is the gospel of Jesus Christ it is the good news that He has risen and has been resurrected by our heavenly Father. A woman was the first person to tell the disciples
Actually the first to preach the gospel was Jesus Christ and also there’s another to preach and it’s another for a woman to take leadership as a Pastor for there are requirements in scriptures like 1️⃣ Timothy 3.
False, she witnessed, or testified. She was not a preacher or teacher. I believe the Apostle Paul had more authority than you. Teaching and preaching is authority. Women are not to have authority over men. I know you read the verses, but we can bring them up if you need to. If you want to talk about Deborah, that's fine too. But God's word is flawless. He does not contradict Himself. The scripture directly says Women are not to teach or have authority over men. You can testify, share your faith, and the like. Even then, you are to be silent in the church. Unless teaching other women, or children. You read the Bible, I know you do.
He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons. 10 She went and told those who had been with Him, as they mourned and wept. 11 And when they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her, they did not believe. So she went and told the disciples he was alive and you have concluded that she preached. Again, according to your definition you provided...she herald the message... simply put... she delivered the news.
Prophecy is the foretelling of a specific event that will occur in the future while preaching is expounding on a specific text to deliver a message that results in learning, guidance, instruction, correction, repentance, believing, etc!
@passportreadyvibes4131 Yes it can be foretelling, Propheteuo: to prophesy, to foretell things to come to declare truths through the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit, whether by prediction or not.
³But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. ⁷For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man.
Well . To my knowledge... We know in the end we all will find out, women can prophesy and pray for , but to become a pastor over was not the plan , because it would go against the original order of Man over woman...
@@BazilGaming-z3t exactly... just made up a story about women causing a ruckus in the church.... people are so quick to follow man rather than accept what thus says the Lord!
Actually Aquila and Priscilla did teach Apollos together Romans 16:3-4 3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus: 4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles. Acts 18: 1-3 1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth; 2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them. 3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers. Acts 18:18 And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow. Acts 18:24-26 24 ¶And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. 26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly. 1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house. 2 Timothy 4: 19 19 Salute Prisca and Aquila, and the household of Onesiphorus.
Yes, Cliff is correct. The Bible is clear, as you see it, your interpretation, because the Lord NEVER FORBADE a woman to teach. It was customary of that day and time for women not to speak out in public. And it was Paul who checked these women that were causing a ruckus in public that caused a disturbance to the men that were gathering to learn because man was the authority in the home.
You may read intellectual things through context, but Spiritual Things are to be Discerned, and that means TAKE NO THOUGHT FOR YOUR INTELLECTUAL BELIEFS!! Leave opinion, context, supposition, and concepts out of it!! This is Adulterating the Word of God, and thou shalt not commit adultery. No, it has nothing to do with cheating on a spouse, as God is not a petulant human intellect that can not know God/Truth!
YOUR HEAD IS COVERED WHEN YOUR A PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST WHO IS YOUR HEAD,AND IN THE BODY OF CHRIST THERE ARE JUST PEOPLE ONLY NO GENDER COLOR RELIGION ALL IN THE BODY OF CHRIST BELIEVERS CAN SPEAK OF WHO THEY BELIEVE IN IF THEY ARE SILENT WHAT THEIR SAYING IS IN THEIR SILENCE 🔕 IS THEY DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE NOT MIND READERS❤
@mt-ch6oe The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound - Isaiah 61:1
@mt-ch6oe biblical preaching, the spirit of God is upon the person and they are anointed. They are able to expound upon the scriptures and deliver the message to the people without traditions or error.
The Bible is clear in the New Testament! it is a commandment from God that a woman not speak in church (POINT). Any denomination, including Cliffe's, that allows women to teach in the meeting is not of God! It is mainly the charismatic sects that have no problem at all with having women teach. That said, Cliffe man, repent of your false teaching.
Notes:
1. Context.
2. Literary style.
3. Interpretation.
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if Christ is the only mediator between God and man and all in Christ are equal then a man has no more authority than a woman to speak on these matters. Perhaps in the physical churches, and perhaps between those who are in Christ and those who are not, but in the spiritual body of Christ, all are equal. There is no man that comes between God and his offspring otherwise that would completely change the dynamic and thus the entire gospel. PS the New Testament is not the Old Testament.
Y’all clearly don’t understand the scriptures. If she can’t usurp authority over a man then she can’t preach. Simple
You have understanding and knowledge of the Gospel/ Bible !
This topic has been genuinely confusing me for a while. To the best of your ability could you please help me reconcile all of this?
Paul said he doesn't permit women to teach, does that mean he's setting it as a rule or explain to Timothy how he personally ran the church, then also why he mentions how they should prophesy if he was saying that they shouldn't speak. Anothe rthing for me is Priscilla, she was a missionary so she went around with her husband teaching and preaching as a woman and was commended by Paul. Its really confusing to me could you grant me your view on this to help understand how to interpret all of this given the context?
@@Covenant_living Hello🙂. So Apostle Paul spake as he was moved by the holy ghost, set forth tht rule/commandment in the church to tell tht though women can prophecy (telling wat happens in the future by the holy ghost), women cannot preach because in order to be a God sent preacher u must be called, sent, and anointed to preach the gospel, while usurping authority over the people/congregation (teaching comes along as well). Women cannot usurp authority over the man because God said set a man over the congregation, in the beginning it caused all of mankind to suffer due to Eve being deceived, and Adam was formed first later on ruling over his wife. It was told in Titus 2:4 tht the aged woman may teach the younger woman how they ought to be and act. As to Priscilla, she was with her husband while they took in Apollos and helped Paul but she never preached only helped and ministered needs and service to all which they did. Jesus himself never took a woman to send her into the world to preach, he only took men. I do not intend to hurt anyone’s feelings or offend them in any way but the truth is the truth. God bless😇🙏
Usurp means to steal. There’s a difference. Hashtag: PRISCILLA…..and Aquila. Explain THAT. She was a MINISTER 🤔
@@hezekiahwebber4918U never see a plane or tv or cell phone or car in the Bible either. NOT EVEN A PULPIT but here we are.
Just because God didn’t pick women doesn’t mean he doesn’t approve of women in high positions of authority.
More and more men are dying now at a rate never before seen in history so all you will HAVE left ARE women.
God blessed women to be doctors and cops and mayors and firefighters but a woman can’t proclaim God’s word?
More men have pussied out of their God ordained positions (husbands/fathers leaving their families/punks) leaving women to act as both mom AND dad while “DAD” acted like a weak punk and run from his responsibilities.
Miss me with all that.
Wrong about the women in church. Older women are to teach the younger. Not to be in leadership positions. It’s clear. Context Cliff.
Ask HOLY SPIRIT to reveal the truth to you.
@@telishiaking6599had to be a woman thrte are no women in the church leading none
@JuanTorres-777 Acts 16:13-16 recounts the story of the first church in Europe. At Philippi, Paul encountered a group of women praying. One was Lydia, who opened her home to Paul and the new converts. In Phil. 4:3, we learn of two other women in the Philippian church, Euodia and Syntyche, who Paul said, “labored with me in the gospel.”
When Paul arrived in Corinth, Priscilla and Aquila invited him to stay with them until they all relocated to Ephesus some months later. When Paul left Ephesus for his missionary tour, he left Priscilla and Aquila in charge of the church that met in their home.
When Apollos arrived in Ephesus, he was an eloquent believer and teacher, but was uninstructed in some doctrines. Priscilla and Aquila taught him more about the gospel. This remarkable couple are mentioned six times in the New Testament, and most of the time Priscilla is mentioned first (contrary to the culture) suggesting that Paul considered her the leader of the two.
Let’s not forget Phoebe, who Paul mentioned in Romans 16:1 as a “deacon of the church of Cenchrea.” (The Greek word is Diaconos) She carried Paul’s letter to the Romans from Greece - a perilous journey by sea and land. Paul commended her work in the church at Cenchrea.
In I Corinthians 12, Romans 12:6-8 and Eph.4:11 Paul discusses at length the “spiritual gifts” given to the church. Nowhere does Paul say that certain gifts or callings are for men and others for women. All are given by the Spirit to build up the church.
@JuanTorres-777 I can go on and on with scripture. Allow the HOLY SPIRIT the SPIRIT of Truth to enlighten your understanding of the WORD OF the living GOD.
That's an acceptable tradition and I would respect it in your church, but it is not the whole counsel and example of scripture.
Wisdom speaks!
Where's your Bible?You're preaching out on the other side of your mouth.Where's your bible
The first person to preach the gospel was a woman. What is the gospel of Jesus Christ it is the good news that He has risen and has been resurrected by our heavenly Father. A woman was the first person to tell the disciples
Actually the first to preach the gospel was Jesus Christ and also there’s another to preach and it’s another for a woman to take leadership as a Pastor for there are requirements in scriptures like 1️⃣ Timothy 3.
She wasnt in church leading or preaching to the saved congregation
What scriptures did she preach from?
If I remember correctly John the Baptist was the first to speak about salvation through Jesus
False, she witnessed, or testified. She was not a preacher or teacher. I believe the Apostle Paul had more authority than you. Teaching and preaching is authority. Women are not to have authority over men. I know you read the verses, but we can bring them up if you need to. If you want to talk about Deborah, that's fine too. But God's word is flawless. He does not contradict Himself. The scripture directly says Women are not to teach or have authority over men. You can testify, share your faith, and the like. Even then, you are to be silent in the church. Unless teaching other women, or children. You read the Bible, I know you do.
He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons. 10 She went and told those who had been with Him, as they mourned and wept. 11 And when they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her, they did not believe.
So she went and told the disciples he was alive and you have concluded that she preached. Again, according to your definition you provided...she herald the message... simply put... she delivered the news.
Prophecy and preaching is different.
What's the difference?
Prophecy is the foretelling of a specific event that will occur in the future while preaching is expounding on a specific text to deliver a message that results in learning, guidance, instruction, correction, repentance, believing, etc!
@passportreadyvibes4131 Yes it can be foretelling,
Propheteuo: to prophesy, to foretell things to come
to declare truths through the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit, whether by prediction or not.
³But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.
⁷For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man.
Well . To my knowledge... We know in the end we all will find out, women can prophesy and pray for , but to become a pastor over was not the plan , because it would go against the original order of Man over woman...
No scripture to substantiate what he said
This topic will make many to stumble and error.
@@BazilGaming-z3t exactly... just made up a story about women causing a ruckus in the church.... people are so quick to follow man rather than accept what thus says the Lord!
Actually Aquila and Priscilla did teach Apollos together
Romans 16:3-4
3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.
Acts 18: 1-3
1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them.
3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.
Acts 18:18
And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow.
Acts 18:24-26
24 ¶And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
1 Corinthians 16:19
The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
2 Timothy 4: 19
19 Salute Prisca and Aquila, and the household of Onesiphorus.
Somebody got the link to the whole video?
no, Cliff isn't right! The Bible is clear in the fact that the Lord forbids a woman to teach in the church!
Ditto.
Yes, Cliff is correct. The Bible is clear, as you see it, your interpretation, because the Lord NEVER FORBADE a woman to teach. It was customary of that day and time for women not to speak out in public. And it was Paul who checked these women that were causing a ruckus in public that caused a disturbance to the men that were gathering to learn because man was the authority in the home.
Agreed
If that's the case.... provide the scriptures where this so called disturbance was taking place@datharrisboi1
This topic has made many to error. May God guide us by His spirit.
You may read intellectual things through context, but Spiritual Things are to be Discerned, and that means TAKE NO THOUGHT FOR YOUR INTELLECTUAL BELIEFS!! Leave opinion, context, supposition, and concepts out of it!! This is Adulterating the Word of God, and thou shalt not commit adultery. No, it has nothing to do with cheating on a spouse, as God is not a petulant human intellect that can not know God/Truth!
EVEN IN THE END THE JEWS SHALL BE SAVED
The spiritual Jew.
Spiritual jews
I’m trying to find this young evangelists TH-cam or something!!
You?
Gave your opinion.
The bible is that right only in contact , but in precepts
A SILENT PERSON CANT BE HEARD, WE'RE NOT MIND READERS❤
YOUR HEAD IS COVERED WHEN YOUR A PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST WHO IS YOUR HEAD,AND IN THE BODY OF CHRIST THERE ARE JUST PEOPLE ONLY NO GENDER COLOR RELIGION ALL IN THE BODY OF CHRIST BELIEVERS CAN SPEAK OF WHO THEY BELIEVE IN IF THEY ARE SILENT WHAT THEIR SAYING IS IN THEIR SILENCE 🔕 IS THEY DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE NOT MIND READERS❤
This is dumb
❤❤❤yes!
@mt-ch6oe The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound - Isaiah 61:1
My apology... wrong guy
You got this one wrong Cliffe. You got to use Scripture to back your claim.....and you couldn't.
😂 I have no white god
Pay attention...he did use Scripture, he told you to read in context! 🙏
@mt-ch6oe biblical preaching, the spirit of God is upon the person and they are anointed. They are able to expound upon the scriptures and deliver the message to the people without traditions or error.
What style of preaching is this? Looks like that of Bible stories acted by actors.
The Bible is clear in the New Testament! it is a commandment from God that a woman not speak in church (POINT). Any denomination, including Cliffe's, that allows women to teach in the meeting is not of God! It is mainly the charismatic sects that have no problem at all with having women teach. That said, Cliffe man, repent of your false teaching.