Converting a cedar thicket to grass.
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- Converting a cedar thicket to grass. When converting cedar forest to grass pasture it is important to raise the PH of the soil. By applying lime and following that with unrolling hay for livestock you are well on your way to pasture. Check out my books on our website: greenpasturesfarm.net for a great Christmas gift!
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A few years ago I cleared a small forest strip along a fence line of a pasture that never really produced much ever (partially do to acidity). I burned everything that didn't make firewood, which resulting in about 7 days of non stop fire feeding as I only had 4 fires going and fed them with the loader. I ended up with probably less than a tonne of ash, which I spread lightly over most of the pasture. That spring I had thick red clover and other legumes where I had never seen them grow before, and my overall forage at least doubled, and became more palatable to livestock. No seed or other fertilizer, just ash. It's valuable stuff for correcting pH, plus it's super high in potash as well as boron and many other trace minerals, and you only need a fraction of ash compared to using lime or gypsum
Me: So what do we do after we get rid of all this cedar?
Greg Judy: Bring in the seeder.
Greg have you ever tried a straw chopper blower to spread your hay......I am trialing it at the moment to see how it goes
Love watching your videos! I think in my “past life” I was a farmer...I’m a 62 yr old lady...still love 💕 watching. Taking care of the world 🌎.
Suggestion : Make a "why and how" not to burn, including dog, goats and cows. When I suggest it, most does not understand it, even if here in Spain they finally is starting to use sheep and goats for wild fire prevention.
You make so much sense, even stupid me understands the carbon cycle.
What a great job those boys are doing. Steady and completely covering a large plot of land.
Loving all of this Greg. I live in a semi arid area in Australia, between 18 -24 inches of rain per annum, very little during summer (probably a lot like the Arizona project).
Wondering how these methods will work using sheep and horses rather than cattle?
Just starting out, looking forward to the journey!
The methods will work with numerous species.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher any video of this land 11 months on.
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Love ya Greg. It would be great if you took some before footage before you show us the changes you make. Thanks for doing what you do.
Its so nice to see bare ground being covered.
Hi Greg, had some pigs tear up some ground real bad ,so I am currently following your lead....spreading hay all over the ground ,can't have any bare ground! Love your videos! Thankyou for the great information and Merry Christmas!
Thanks Paul and a great Christmas to you as well!
Logging the high value wood on a lease. If I were the owner, gladly pay for the lime from my % of the lumber. Get a wood dowel shaving bit kit and deliver a live edge table.
I love this kind of land stewardship. Very balanced and gentle but very effective.
that is how most of the area looks around me, full of cedar and regrowth from clear cutting! there are some patches of hard woods but mostly cedar , spruce , and pines!! thank you for the tips and another great video!!!
Sr I really love the way you work!!
Congratulations!!
Outdoor barn... Our cows used to stand on the river bottom in the trees in winter too, you made me recall.
have you ever spread the hay with a bursh hog it works pretty well
Nope, ground is to soft for a tractor this time of year.
Very interesting and informative! Thank you Greg! Also, I'm curious about why you chose to clear this particular small area entirely instead of leaving the odd tree here and there for shade and birds like you suggest in some of your other videos.
We will be planting some shade trees where needed.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Awesome, thanks for the reply!
Love the videos.
I’m about 2 hours strait west of you. My stockpiled fescue is turning yellow on my really bad this year for some reason? And ideas? We have had a couple hard freezes but been pretty warm. Had a major drought here this summer/ fall and it didn’t get as much growth as I would like. I put a 40-40-40 on this farm in august. Cow pies are still runny and cows seems to be getting what they need, just wondering what the deal is with the yellow grass
Without any rain, the 40-40-40 you put on this fall may be the culprit.
Does he have a video on exactly how to create pasture out of wooded area?
Goats, or sheep, then a few 3-4 hogs. The goats will clear high up in the trees, sheep don’t clear as high up. Hogs roil up the buried seeds.
@@Flippin_Crazy thanks!
Well done Greg!
I enjoy your videos. I would mulch cut cedars or burn them.
If you mulch cut cedars, nothing will grow in that soil except new cedars. Turns the soil acidic. Burning does get rid of them, but they also make great cover and homes for small wildlife.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher I understand (and respect) your thoughts, piles of cedar will not grow anything either. Personally I would burn the cedar for the potassium. Please do not take this as negative.
No offense taken, I like the smell of burning cedar trees😀
Up late editing Greg?
Nope, I can select the time it is released on a TH-cam when I download the video.
Safe to say I learned a thing or two today
Best carbon cycle!
Can cows eat sweet potato leaves and vines? That stuff grows like crazy.
I am sure they would eat them.
A hay Tedder I believe is what it is called would save you time and money in spreading the hay out. I’m sure they have one you can pull with an ATV/UTV.
Its good for your body to do physical work like forking hay. With 4 of us spreading hay, its a snap and you can get it right where you need it.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher luckily you have 3 others to help you. At the moment I’m a lone operation that has very limited time like you did 20 years ago. Limited, I only have Friday night and Saturday to get any work done. I have the opportunity for all the physical labor clearing fence lines of trash to repair them. H-braces for gates as all the gates are a pick up and carry and hope they don’t fall on the ground. Plenty of work, not plenty of time.
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What is a fair price for leased land?
Depends upon your location, and the lay of the land. In my area of the U.S., east coast, minimally developed grazing land can go for $15-$25 an acre/year. You'll likely have to bring your own fencing though.
@@SasquatchBioacoustic I am in east Kentucky. I keep eyeing a utility easement not far from my property that my goats would LOVE to chow down on. And there is land between us that is not developed and over grown. Just didn't know what would be a reasonable amount to work with.
If the property has no fence or water, the lease payment needs to be minimal at least for the first 3-5 years to allow you the equity to develop it. Our leases range from free to $40 an acre per year.
do you feed turips?
We broadcast seeded some this late fall on some of our brush clearing spots and did not get any rain. The rains came late, seed came up to late to make any growth before winter set in. Always a risk when you plant something, no rain, no return!!!