The Demise of The Chicago Bulls Dynasty (Why Michael Jordan Quit Before He Had To)
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This is the story of why the 90s Bulls dynasty ended before it had to. - กีฬา
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The Bulls dynasty ended in 1998 after their 6th title, yet, nobody ever asks why.
They were still on top, Michael still had plenty of good years left, and there’s no doubt they could’ve retooled to attempt a few more runs.
This is the story of why they all agreed to call it quits before they had to.
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Ayye
Can you make more Kobe videos thanks
I second that on the Kobe videos
You can't talk about one Jerry without talking about the other
Jerry Seinfield: Tom and Jerry
Is it crazy that while I watch " The Last Dance", in the back of my mind I'm like, Dom2k did it first.
the first dance
@@Lumidonthe second dance
Without watching I know Jerry Krause’s name is going to be mentioned.
Starts video by saying "Most people think it was because of Krause, but they don't know all the reasons." Makes a whole video about Krause.
He didn’t
Has to be mentioned but this clears up a lot. Krause always gets the blame but it was truly a team effort lol
@@suppaman12 I mean Krause was a huge part of it. To come out and say a 5 time championship team wasnt going to keep their coach before the season even started (even if they went 82-0) is pretty egotistical. Saying "players dont win championships, organizations do" clearly minimizes player effort and talent. It wasn't solely his fault but he certainly is a centerpiece for some major drama.
James Lamb it's not the players or the coachs job to like what he says. As long as they are getting paid that's it. They could've came to a n agreement but it's clear phil wanted out. Had he wanted to stay they all would've stayed. It was like I said a team effort
You must've watChed "The Demise of the Bulls"?
If Jordan didn't retire in 1998, Bulls vs Spurs would've been fun to watch in 1999
Sherman Ng the Bulls beat them twice in 98 and one of those games Scottie didn't even play
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T regular season isn’t good to go off especially the years before the spurs broke out
@Skip Bayless because rodman was a shell of himself so their lack of interior defence against tim duncan and the admiral would of been suspect and i don't know if the bulls would of have even been that desperate for the title they would of been
@Skip Bayless do you even know who was in the spurs then dumbass? it was duncan and a washed up robinson. If shaq and kobe didn't sweep a team with only duncan as an all-star, they would have been a joke
their second leading scorer was derek anderson with 15.5 points, wtf did you expect from that spurs team. The spurs started and ended with tim duncan, he had no help
so jordan was so good he was bored of the nba lmao😂
Lol yup
You can say that, but I'm not sure how he'd have fared against tim duncan /admiral spurs and kobe shaq lakers in the finals with his increasing age
and yet the self proclaim goat "LeBlame" still bitching to get more superstars to win Nba finals in his 16th season.
@@tacomaliciouso lol he need more Superstars just to even make the Playoffs out West
@@vt248 im lakers fan and im mad at leBlame right now. He almost traded the young core just to get AD and now self proclaiming himself to be on playoffs mode at 10th seed. Even if they made playoffs i already disbelief Lebitch
Waiting patiently for The Greatest Playoff Series Part 3.
Seba Rivera Part 3? Where df is Part 2??
He’s not going to do it because of footage issues.
its there
Wyatt Corbin I’ll still watch it if it’s just a black screen tbh
He explained why he couldn’t do it
I need a vid on why Chauncey should be a hall of famer because it’s getting crazy that he’s still not in. He’s one of the most underrated players of all time he proves stats aren’t everything and he was a winner . He went to 7 straight conference finals and no one talks about it smh 🤦♂️
Andy Hoops did a video on him.
He is basically the Troy aikman of point guard's doesn't have the best number's but was the leader of a lot of great teams
@@Matt-os2zn billups deserves it way more than Wallace
I disagree that he is a HOF that said the NBA does have low standards. Yes he won a championship, has a finals MVP and finished like 3rd one year in MVP voting all to go with 7 conference finals in a row and lik 6 all star appearances. But if your thinking of comparable players i say guys lik tony parker and kyle lowry. Guys who overachieved by finding a system that perfectly complements thier play style and being smart enough not to mess it up long enough to put together a long run of winning seasons as the floor general and go to guy late in games. Parker is a HOF Lowry isnt (yet, if they somehow win it this year he is by NBA standards but still shouldn't be imo) Billups is inbetween the 2. But none of those guys are guys i think of when i think of dominating players and thats mostly what the HOF should be for.
@@R.B.90 agreed for the most part except about Parker while it's true he benefited from the Spurs system he still was a very good player in his own right (as his international accomplishments show) also from 07-12 (basically his prime) it could be easily argued he was a top 5 pg in the league something lowry and billups have never been able to claim
Don't ever put the organization over the players. Yeah, the organization is mostly responsible for putting the team together, but at the end of the day and the chips are down, the players shoulder the organization. THey have to carry a team to victory and they're the ones who have to accommodate their egos for the good of the team. THe organization can't quite literally declare themselves the winners of games. THe players put their brains and bodies together to form a cohesive unit.
That works in basketball. In other sports not so much
Well said
If you want to put the players ahead of the organization as a whole you can get the 2000s Nuggets. Or the 2010s Knicks.
Jerry Krause destroyed the Bull’s dynasty.
True but it was his creation to destroy at the end of the day.
@@Jeffro288 it was Jordan's, that pig didnt do shit anyone else wouldnt have done
@@vt248 naw. Krause was a great scout and GM. As a Bulls fan i understand the history.
@@Ghostkilla773 nah, it was Jordan. If it wasnt for MJ they'd have zero rings
@@vt248 of course Jordan was the main reason on the court that the Bulls won, but he didn't win until Scottie joined up and Phil became coach. In '87 it was Seattle that drafted Scottie but Krause had the wherewithal to trade Olden Polynice and future draft pick options for him. Prior to coaching the Bulls, Phil regularly sought NBA jobs, but was turned down. Then in '87 Krause brought him in as an assistant head coach and ultimate promoted him to head coach in '89. He put together so many pieces to compliment Phil's system as well as MJ and Scottie's playing style. Krause was one of the most vital reason's the Bulls dynasty ever existed. To deny that is just foolish.
Dom2k February 2039. The demise of the Warriors dynasty. Lol
Hari Avula it’s dynasty
Hari Avula it’s “spelled.” There’s no T in the word
"It all started with this guy named DeMarcus"
“The players eventually aged after 40 years of playing in the game and could no longer compete with other teams”.
"It began when Steve Kerr decided to call it quits after his 15th back surgery"
I once heard (can't remember where though) that the 98 title is the title that made them the greatest team of the 90s (they obviously were before) because they had to fight as hard as they did for it.
PaSc they came THIS close to losing that game 7 to Indiana it was a classic series
@@raviolihands5347 I heard of that, I just wasn't around in 1998. Were you?
PaSc yup i was born in 86 i watched that entire series
True. Chances were split in 93, but in 98 they were clearly underdogs
I'm watching since 87 finals.
They can't win till we quit: Jordan to Pippen after 1998 Finals
That’s honestly Jordan’s biggest black mark on his career. He retired way too early not only once, but twice.Jordan could of probably gotten at least 2 more chips if he hadn’t retired in 93 and 98. Who knows, Jordan could have had 8 straight champion ship wins potentially 9 but we’ll never know.
He definitely would have won more chips. But his curse is that he was too good he became too bored with the game.
@@wiueprince1996 Yeah man, 26 yr and has accomplished every thing you can dream off.
1998 was perfect if Michael stayed retired. 1999 if would of been good after that it would be hard to see Pippen's back issues slowed him down. They also need a lot of help. Younger players who were between their 5th & 7th season who could help them.
If u know MJ personality at all them u should know by that time the game was boring for him, for most of his carreer he had to go through the bad boys pistons and the Celtics, once he got over the hump what else was there for him to do? For most people money and fame are incentive, but the guy already did everything by age 27 plus had/has built one of the best sneekers brand in Basktball history until this days Jordans sell more than any other Nike shoe, and even feeling like that he played and got 5 more chips back to back comon thats unheard off, and with no game 7 at finals.
I believe beating Magic's 5 rings was the only thing left for him to do.It was a perfect time to stop.
Dom basically summarized the whole last dance documentary like a year or 2 before it came out 😂
The Bulls broke up at the right time before everybody got too old....
98-08 ten years of rebuiling lol
Yep like Dom said they limped to that last title.
@@kb4231
Exactly. They might not reach the finals in 99 who knows? Pippen was terrible post 1998. His seasons in Houston and Portland were god awful.
Wow didn't know pippen was terrible after the bulls
@Viper
Against the Spurs and 2000 Lakers? Not likely..
Also remember that the young stars at the time saw the way Bulls management treated Jordan and Pippen and they stayed away from Chicago. Think about a young Tracy McGrady and Kevin Garnett on the Bulls!! Damn!!!!
DANG IT DOM! I just wrote a script for this, but now you did it! 😂😭
The NBA Storyteller nobody cares
Jonny Arnett -NBA TH-camr that’s tuff
Jonny Arnett -NBA TH-camr *when you think you have a million view idea but then your favorite TH-camr uploads it*
just upload it, its great to have different perspectives in the situation
Zeus Wancer I might. I’ll give it some time though. Dom does an excellent job, so I’m glad it was him that uploaded it 😂
I feel like they had a great chance to 4-Peat in 99’ as it was a shortened season so the toll on their bodies wouldn’t be as bad and they could’ve taken advantage of the lockout and end the dynasty on the last year of the 90s.
They crammed 50 games into a February-May stretch. They would have dealt with a lot of fatigue and possibly injuries.
As Dom mentioned, they werent who they used to be at that point. It was Jordan's brilliance that got them to win a chip in 98. Competing in 99 would have been pushing it too far. Though Id never count Jordan's heart out.
@@wiueprince1996 agreed and knowing Jordan's competitive nature he may have ended tearing his body apart like Kobe trying to get that bulls tea to the finish line
But they’d have lots of time to rest (Until February) and they could’ve signed key pieces in the offseason since they were the defending champs and players would love to play with them and end out their 90s run with a last year chip but who knows...
Agreed
what if someone told Phil Jackson that you can follow the 7-year rule without leaving a franchise?
Popovich did it while sticking to the Spurs.
1st 7 years: Duncan-Robinson era
2nd 7 years: Spurs Big three with Parker as the main role
3rd 7 years: Spurs post-big three
Well he kinda did with the Lakers.. though he did take a break.
Cause Phil Jackson needs superstars to be there already he can't do what pop does and draft and groom players that's why he says 7 years
How many years was Red with the Celtics?
The average a coach stays with one team is 3,7 years. So 7 years is quite long
Every time I hear this story it gets me upset. But, statistically speaking, this 98 Bulls team and that roster still had some good basketball left in them. This team beat the Jazz 96-54 in game 4 of the 98 Finals and everyone thought the series was gonna be over after game 5, but Karl Malone had a monster game 5. Jordan even stated in an interview with Amhad Rashad for his 50th birthday that that Bulls team had about 3 good years left in them.
bro why dont you say "wassup nba fans" anymore??
Cuz
Sizzling Defeat up
It’s weird that’s why 😂😂
Dom2k on the mic
Matt M. Same
Its so krazy da Bulls still managed to win 6 rings with all da bs goin on behind da scences....it really tells how good dey really were
I was hoping somebody would make a video about this. This dynasty just ended out of nowhere. A lot of dynasties normally ended slowly due to the players aging and other factors, but this one, they were just champions one year and did a complete 180 and were a lottery team the next year.
Tony Kukoc was no joke tho, he was clutch off the bench
Yes off the bench.
but not a team leader tho
Yea a great 6th man not team superstar
Daamn it took the bulls 10years to rebuild lol When they got Drose and prime noah lol 😂😂
That’s why he won sixth man of the year
As a person who loves history,documentaries and sports these videos do it for me
Don2k back again with the great content. Nothing short of informative, entertaining and quality. 🙌
Gotta love that sexy face of urs (nikola jokic saying: no homo)
LeFacts
Great video going into details. Best analysis of the bulls dynasty in the 90s. They were a championship team on their last legs in 98.
Bro your videos are goat like and plz bring back the greatest series of all time video
Loved this. Would love to see more content like this on the breakups of other notable teams. I find rebuilds and what leads to the necessitation of a rebuild to be fascinating.
Man. You did a lot of great research on this and the content is clear. Thank you for this video. Takes a lot of work to make it for us lol, keep working hard. I can't wait till you reach a million subs
The last dance documentary in 12 minutes by Dom2k
Very Well Put
Your content is getting really really good
Dope video. Crazy thing is I haven't thought about anything after 98. I just figured Jordan retired and the New Wave came in.
I'm happy to have witnessed the Bulls Dynasty just the way it was.
Yeah it was a storybook ending, with Jordan's final shot to cap off an amazing era.
Me too. Miss those teams
I always like your videos before I even watch them because Dom only drops bangers.
Great video bro. Can’t wait for the ESPN 30 for 30 on the bulls
Great video as always! I have a suggestion for a future video topic, the post Bird/McHale Celtics of the '90s and why it took them so long to get great again.
Great Research. Never heard any commentary that refers to this from your viewpoint. This is better than any basketball /story/documentary that I have ever seen that discussed thr demise of the bulls.
mj n pip def coulda took down the lakers or spurs in the west if mj played the 98-99 lockout season + season didnt start until jan mj woulda been in GREAT SHAPE
They crammed 50 games from February to April that plus an aging core would mean tons of injuries
Gabriel Dnchf ehhhh DEBATABLE you didnt have back to backs like they do now where players are playing 5-6x in ONE week alone players now are playing mon-tue off wed playing thur off friday and got games on sat and Sunday thats INSANE!! mj kept himself in shape and never once battled “cramps” or “fatigue” players back then didnt need “rest” and yes as i states before thats partly because they didnt play as much in the week
Yep
in 2000 no
Issues with upper management and being forced to carry a larger load while his co-star is rehabbing all while near the end of his prime? This is all stuff that doesn’t come to light because media now portrays it as “MJ with 2 HOF’s omg so much help.”
Every all-time great has to go through their own struggles throughout the season but stick it out to get the job done. No excuses from the goat.
LeGoat
2011 erased all chances of him being that. MJ never had a series meltdown like that. Not even close. Dude would die on the court before giving a slack ass performance like that, getting outplayed by role players all around
@@ryanralph7494 because he ahd a bad series ye shutup bro u kno noth9ing about ball i know joprdan ahd bad series b4 the pippewn and rodman era thats why lebron jus passed jordan in points ever and jordan took 3000 more shots
@@26reasonz31 He won three championships without Rodman and before Pippen, he was mostly losing to an all time great Celtics team with multiple Hall of famers. He was still the best player on the floor every series
Ryan Ralph 2016 makes up for 2011
Great vid as always, but we need that greatest playoff series pt 3 my man! I know u prolly working on it We will be Patient but we need that vid lol
Bravo care.. Keep uploading
Solid upload thanks dom
Dom is sooooooo underrated!
4:16 "He felt like he'd drafted Jordan." Krause didn't draft Jordan. Jordan was drafted in 1984. Krause didn't join the Bulls until 1985, a full year after Jordan had joined the Bulls. You can credit him with building the team around Jordan, but he did *not* draft the greatest player of all time.
That honor goes to Naismith Hall of Famer Rod Thorn, who would later go on to build 1992's legendary Dream Team (with Jordan as the main centerpiece) and later win Executive of the Year in the early 2000's after building the Nets franchise that won the Eastern Conference and went to the finals two years in a row (the Nets' first ever, and as of this moment, only ever Finals appearances)!
i always wondered that same question!thanks man, outstanding
Amazing vid man keep up the good work
Right on dom 2k u been on a hiatus but this was one of the best ones
98-01 MJ was schooling NBA players for fun.
No his bum ass couldn’t get it done
James155 Jordan played for free donated his contract to 9/11 victims and was injured from training camp until he had kneee surgery and was schooling dude on the 3rd worse team in the nba when he joined at 38-40 years old setting records. 26-21 on Feb 7 before his knee that needed draining finally was getting so bad Coach Collins said Jordan was playing on one leg and Jordan still kept trying to play for a few more weeks on it. Jordan was playing with a meniscus tear, back spasms, 2 cracked ribs, wrist tendinitis, tendinitis in his opposite knee and he cut a bone in his shooting hand a few years earlier that was removed so he could no longer grip the ball like he used to and was retired the previous 3 seasons before! If you don’t appreciate that greatness your broad must be sucking her boss off for overtime and telling you how good he taste
Mj is top 3 player all time
Donna Dunbar mj is a top 1 player of all time
Great video, your getting better
Yes I needed this video yessssssssss thank you
3:43 isnt it funny that Krausse and Jackson had a falling off, when it was alleged that Krausse hired Jackson to be a mole in Doug Collins' coaching staff? And also the animosity between Krausse and Jordan and Pippen began when Krausse started wooing Kukoc to come to Bulls in the early 90s and Jordan and Pippen felt like 'We are winning championships and you are giving more importance to some guy who never played in the US before?' and to prove a point at the Olympics between the USA and Croatia both Jordan and Pippen made sure that Kukoc would have ZERO impact just to prove a point to Krausse
Crazy how he summarized the whole last dance doc
Great video Dom!
Great job on this
First you one of the best creators out here🔥🙏🏼
Sweet Dom!
Great video!
Jerry Krause was a VERY underrated GM. Look at the players he got for MJ. They were exactly what MJ needed to compliment him. The day MJ called his 2nd retirement was his saddest day. He still wanted to play 5 more years but there's no situation for him to go to.
This video article is a great counterpoint to the Last Stand
Yo u should do more vids like this really good
They will probably have even more information in “The Last Dance” ESPN 30 for 30 documentary next year
yh
Replying to you 5/15/20 as the Lance Dance is ongoing and 2 more episodes left on sunday the 17th. The docuseries has been aweseome so far
Who’s here after The Last Dance?
It was a beautiful thing watching the bulls dynasty from 1991 to 1998 and it was fun to watch. Had the owner not been so egotistical the bulls could've had one more run in 1999 especially with that shortened season and the rest they could've gotten with that season.
no way they would gotten more rest there was so many back to back to back games once the season started they wouldve been more fatigue with the fact they almost couldn't get any rest
@@jorgeanta2912 true but the bulls would've gotten it together and made a small run. Looking at it now they would've probably struggled in the east because their were some good teams in the eastern conference back then. But i think they would've barely pulled through but i now don't think they would've beaten the spurs because of the bigs the spurs had and how tough that team was to beat.
fitness65 Carlos hill The nba was better in the 90s. It wasn’t so annoying with all the talk from the media and nba fans spending too much time predicting where free agents will play next season and you never heard about coaches getting fined for tampering for saying good things about other players.
The Last Dance is what im waiting for...2020 your almost here...🦇
thank you for this, as a very young Chicagoan in the late 90s the mythic status of what occurred at the end there has really gotten out of control.
love your vids bro
great video. I went into a trance during it 🤙
Definitely the greatest
i honestly cant wait for the espn doc... im piss they push it back till 2020 but i know that doc is gonna be epic !
Wow, man you really did your research on this one. Bro I’m from San Antonio, and I never thought of that! The spurs had Duncan Robinson, Avery Johnson, oh and the Memorial Day Miracle shot clutch Sean Elliott!!
Pippen was getting $3million and Krause wanted to trade him? Lmao. That's like me working for $1 an hr and my boss wants to fire me.
Dom ur my favorite nba youtuber man
Make a prediction video about next year. Trades, seedings players etc
Cant wait for the documentary to come out. I think it comes out this year.
Lmao Jordan could’ve had 9-10 championships if it wasn’t for the franchises’ issues and his first retirement
Would he have beaten Hakeem Olajuwon though? Who on the Bulls would guard him?
Jair Brooks-Davis Bulls prolly would’ve beaten them in 94’ but I feel like the Rockets still would’ve won in 95’ as they added Clyde.
Shoulda coulda woulda
And his own depression. Read his picture autobiography, "For the Love of the Game." His depression is what lead to his retirements. He says so (or at least, describes so) himself.
You are correct though. The franchises' issues were indeed a *huge* factor leading to the depression that lead to *both* of his retirements (especially Krause himself, as MJ explains)! So yes, you are correct in that respect. If the franchise actually treated him like a human (not a piece of meat), didn't sow chaos and put obstacles in his way for *no* reason, and most importantly, took better care of him (and/or actually took his depression seriously), he *almost definitely* would've won them *multiple* more championships!
Tyreek Chambers 94 rockets were a better team than 95 rockets
I watched this video a year ago and instagram going recommend it again 😂 the last dance
That year the Bulls just had a feeling of finality to them. Even though it wasn't really discussed publicly it was understood that '98 was it for them. To compound this it was reported that Scottie was drunk on the back of the team bus and demanded a trade early that season and Jordan sniping at Rodman and telling Kerr he shouldn't have came back. I think that internal turmoil was a huge factor in the vulnerability they had that year more so than any physical wear and tear but still I believe if they held that group together they would've won in '99 it being a lockout and being the most experienced squad would've got them through imo.
Dom your videos are the best to this day I keep learning more and more and I appreciate your content #realmvp
So you made the last dance before they released it haha good job dom
Who’s watching this after watching the last dance?
Corrections: Krause didn’t draft Jordan which might’ve explained his insecurities with Jordan being so great. Also Jordan wanted to come back but with Phil and Puppen on the move it made it very challenging. Plus J.Reinsdorf didn’t make enough overtures to MJ convincing him to stay.
I think they could have won 8 straight championships 91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98 #ChicagoBulls
@flash 22 Probably The Dream was beast
flash 22
Why didn’t rockets win a title when MJ was around then?
Great insight Dom....and with that being said , how do you give up on that hoop legacy? In today's league you don't under-pay a player of Scottie's importance.
This is what ppl don't get. They could have possible won 9 straight titles. LeBron would never come close to that man. Goat
Jordan was burnt out between 95-96, that plus prime Hakeem could have made it difficult for the Bulls. Though I can still see Jordan winning a chip or 2 during those years.
A Bulls vs. Spurs Finals in 1999 would’ve been a good one!
Last time I was this early Dom didnt have 3 channels
MJ is the GOAT, no debate
Nah
That's a wierd way to spell Kareem
@@owenkaleda8509 Why would he be spelling Kareem?
At least he didn’t say LeBron
@@greenbayduke6349 because Kareem one of the goats
I hate to break it to you all but in a match between the dream team and the warriors I see the warriors take it thanks to Jonas Jerebko. This man is single handily keeping warriors in the game with his HOF type play. It’s a shame that people think KD Steph and Klay carry this team. Without Jerebko down low they wouldn’t get those open looks that they get. He should win an MVP, has less playoff losses than the every single player on the dream team. He carries them to victory. Warriors in 1
Lmfao, you again.
You're pretty stupid.
damn, don 2k did the last dance b4 the last dance
This videos are fucking amazing!
Can't wait for the Bulls' documentary to come out.
Good point.
They sweep all of the negativity under the rug on the shows now a days
They gotta make it look like LeBron had it so much harder than MJ that's why he doesn't win.
It’s not just bulls fans that wish MJ kept going past 98
Krause thought he was to big so he thought he could build another championship team. That didn't happen.
Same mentality Jerry Jones has
Michael Jordan the man who, tragically, was just too good. He was the One Punch Man of the NBA
Brilliant reference
You said the Celtics has no young stars when Bias died but they had Reggie Lewis who was a all star and would have been the future until he died he deserves to be mentioned
Reggie was drafted the year AFTER Len Bias - partly BECAUSE Bias died, but for the same reason.
Do a video on the baby bulls 99-02.
Thank you for this video. People attempt to denigrate Jordan by talking about how “stacked” his teams were, when his final championship, as you put it, “shouldn’t have even won the championship”; might be a bit hyperbolic, but that doesn’t make it any less true. Jordan was the man.