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Best Masterpiece Optimus Prime of All Time | MP10, MP44, MS & TE CHILL COMPARISON REVIEW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- Today we look at 4 Transformers Masterpiece scaled G1 Optimus Prime offerings. Transformers Masterpiece MP10, MP-44, Magic Square Light of Freedom and Transform Element TE-01 OP Leader. I think there's another G1 Optimus Prime but screw that guy.
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I had all four as well. And I agree, MP-44 is the best of these. MS-01 on 2nd cause he's so posable, easy to transform and affordable. 3rd is TE-01 for the cleanest look, but he also feels plain to me. MP-10 to me is kinda out of the competition cause he simply hasn't aged too well, still a legendary and good mold.
We are of the same mind. Unfortunately that makes you biased. Lol. I'm going to pin your comment to the top since you actually own all four
@@TMan978 lol maybe. I'm mostly puzzled about the extreme reactions that the whole discussion drew from the fandom. I totally understand and respect anyone who prefers TE-01, but at the same time I demand respect and acceptance towards anyone who chose differently.
Aw I always wanted a masterpiece figure(official or 3rd party)
wheres mp 1 at!!
@@thomahawk24 can't judge MP1, never had it
TE 01 all day for me. MS ia nice but too bulky. MP 44 is nice too but that backpack is an atrocity.
*looks at MP Bee 2.0* Not the worst backpack ever.
Couldn't have said it better myself agree with everything you said. I Hate that ginormous Backpack on MP 44. MS is not bad actually really close to TE but it is too bulky. But TE is the best personally.
I think the knee issue is the worst part of MP44
@@K.C.-Games true and the back pack crap takara could have just put the sound system in the gun or on the trailer also the price I dont think mp44 is worth almost 400 dollars I think they should have put it at 250 with no trailer and 300 with the trailer
Te01 is also toon accurate MS is like devastation/comic accurate
I just can do the Price for MP 44. So TE 01 will have to work for me.
*Can't
Right! Can't lol. Even 330 is too much. For the amount Takara is asking this needed to be Perfect and it isn't.
@@johnlant1730 bruh 60 is to much for me
I'm talking about the Voyager sized kbbmp10-v
The ko44 is awesome
At the end when you had them all posed up together my eyes were just constantly drawn to the MS one, I love his proportions and headsculpt so much. I think he's my favourite.
Still a big fan of MP10. I’ve never liked the “toon” look.
I'm guessing masterpiece and Siege are just the worst for you.
TMan978 , Early MPs were my favorites, not the current trend. Siege is cool because of its unique look. I’m just not a fan of the smoother simpler look of the toon styling. Those are best left for stuff like the Hard Hero statues (which I own a few). But that’s just my tastes. :)
@@ZetZatar the first MPs we're cool but a mess to me. They gave MP01 ball jointed ankles and 4 lb of diecast lol. But I hear what you're saying. You like the extra sculpt work like Bobby skullface is always talking about.
me too i really love the look, and the seer power that figure emanes, i have the year of the horse version, and is one of my favorite figures of my collection
Well, it's your choice too ya!
I love all of them but damn mp10 looks like he can crush all of them in a battle!
Lol
@TMan978, I think the reason you're still getting comments a year later, is because of the re-release of TE-01 and the recent KO of MP-44. Those two releases are putting these figures in more collectors' hands, or at least making them a consideration.
I own MP-01, MP-10V (which is the undersized MP-10), MS-01, MS-01X, and TE-01 (2nd batch). I have a genuine MP-10, MP-44 KO, and the newest batch of TE-01 all in various stages of shipping, so I'll soon have all the MP primes for comparison.
But here's my opinion based on the figures I own, and the multiple video reviews I've seen, including your own. The best overall figure in my opinion is TE-01. And honestly I don't even think its that close of a competition.
MP-01 and MP-10 are both great figures. MP-01 is the OG Masterpiece Prime, and I remember being absolutely blown away when I saw it on the shelf. Still one of my favorite XMas gifts. But it's severely dated 15 years later. MP-10 is just a different style figure when HasTak was taking the Masterpiece line a different direction. Great figure, but now we're moving toward more toon-like figures. Which as a 40yo guy who grew up with the G1 cartoon and movie, that's more my style.
So the competition to me is between MS-01, TE-01, and MP-44.
Out of those three, I just feel like TE-01strikes the best balance and is the most toon accurate.
MS-01 is a great figure. I love the bulky look, the transformation is intuitive, interesting, and most of all, fun. It produces a great looking bot and truck. The finish is very meh, but thats what makes it a great TOY. The matte paint and points of articulation feels like something you can play with and not damage. And with MS-01X, the metallic finish looks more premium without being fragile paint.
BUT, the bulky build makes it less toon accurate, and the truck bed looks like it was phoned in. As Jobby says, it's a 3D figure, so all angles should be taken into consideration.
MP-44 is obviously very toon accurate...from the front. The back of the bot and the truck both break the illusion. I understand WHY the backpack exists, and WHY the truck bed Looks like a pile of broken model kits smashed together. I think HasTak severely over-engineered the figure to be slavish in toon accuracy, to the point that they lost a lot of accuracy in the process. And honestly, both modes are a panel lined mess. And with the complaints of fragile knees, wobbly hips and loose shoulders, a lot of people in the forums are too afraid to play with it or transform it. I think its a great figure to display in bot mode, in a dynamic pose, from the front only, and never played with. And the transformation looks like a nightmare. I'm not sure I'll even attempt it.
But TE-01, Especially the updated version, strikes the perfect balance. Or near perfect. You've seen my pics and others in the forums, TMan. TE-01 is not limited in articulation at all. I have had mine in some very dynamic poses that actually look more natural than the MS-01, which everyone says has greater articulation. It's a SOLID figure that I'm completely comfortable with posing, playing with, and transforming. It looks great from all angles in truck and bot mode. It's a clean figure, and the only visible kibble is the bumper butt. MP-44 nails the butt plate, sure, but you can't display it anyway with that huge growth above it. LOL. But, TE-01 looks great posed, and feels great as a toy.
The G1 toon was plagued with animation errors and just low quality drawing, but rhe 86 movie I really feel was the highest quality example of the character models. Not perfect by any means, but the best. So that's what I base my ideas on of toon accuracy. And TE-01 nails it. OP was meant to be blocky and slender. TE-01 has the perfect backpack. It looks straight out of the movie. And the matrix chamber. That was the one part of your review that I was disappointed in. You totally glossed over just how dead on accurate TE-01 matrix chamber is. You mentioned it, but come on. They nailed it. It was just icing on the cake of an already incredibly accurate figure.
Its has a very clean, convincing truck bed, with the least kibble in either mode out of all the MP Primes. And I think its a perfect example of how HasTak over-engineered MP-44 and wound up missing the mark. Its just so clean, so elegant, more accurate, and more solid. The transformation is a little complicated. Not nearly as intuitive and fun as MS-01, but not as complicated and scary as MP-44. Again, a nice balance.
And when you factor in price, you just can't beat TE-01. Its actually the cheapest of thr group. MS-01 is no longer available and sells for $160-$250 on the secondary market. MP-44 is $360-$450. TE-01 is available right now for $103.
I'm not saying MP-44 isn't worth $400. Cause it likely is. But is it the best VALUE? Well, that is up to the buyer. For me, no. For you, maybe. All I know is I look at TE-01, and I see how HasTak missed the mark with price and over-engineering.
Overall, you did a great review and comparison. I don't fault anyone who disagrees with my opinion. We're all looking for different things in our ultimate figure. For me, TE-01 checks all my boxes.
Already having MP-01 and MP-10, I find no needs for yet another trailer. Plus MP-44 price is way too high for me. So TE01 OP Leader will do the job perfectly for cartoon accuracy. Plus, being compatible with MP-10's trailer sealed the deal. Also, 156 Canadian dollars (115$US) with free shipping from China. Not too shabby.
MP44 wins in overall articulation and toon accuracy, TE01 is a close one for its cleanliness and lack of visible panel lines and Magic Square is something in between IMO
How is it more toon accurate than the TE-01?
@@charvelgtrs mostly just proportions and head sculpt I would say
@@charvelgtrs Te is too blocky. The g1 cartoon was blocky as well but it had rounded edges at some places. Not to mention the proportions.
I have 3 of the 4. MP-10, MP-44 KO and MS. Magic Square will be staying on my G1 Shelf. He looks amazing. He looks better than MP-44. MP-44 is so over-rated. If it wasn't so $$$ I don't think people would praise it as much. It just doesn't look good. It's like people are praising it , in order to justify the money that they spent on it.
I honestly disagree. I praise it because I think it looks the best. My one complaint aesthetically is the backpack. Other than that it looks just like the cartoon.
To me magic square looks like someone's memory of the cartoon
I'm still keeping my MP10. I don't give a shit on the full on accuracy of MP44. Its awesome and all but those issues I've heard & things that i won't like for sure makes it an easy pass.
I'm happy with POTP Optimus! Minus the trailer not being a real trailer he's fucking glorious!!!
I agree; I *HATE* the transformation on MP 44
Mp44 is shit looking
I feel as though you could have titled this video 'The Best Optimus Prime is MP-44 in spite of its glaring QC Issues' and been done with it. Also, that's the V1 TE, which doesn't have as many detents on the ratchets as the V2 (and the arms are ratcheted, albeit soft ones). The TE's backpack is closer to the size of the one on the animation model than any of the others (quite where the idea that it is huge came from I'll never know) and it's perfectly stable in dynamic poses. The can be no arguing that MP-44 has more articulation and accessories, but I'd hardly call TE limited. Also, how much use is the average collector going to make of those things? Is it worth three times the price? I don't think so, and I bought it!
The paint chipping on yours is ridiculous, as is the fact that the knees seem to be failing across the board. Meanwhile TE is still going strong nine months later and MP-10 many years later. If this is the future of official figures, well it's a sorry state of affairs.
I don't like TE so much. The truck is good. It's too limited posability wise. Posability is a theme on my channel. I'm not used to Primus backpack being humongous but I'm not used to it being completely flat either.
@@TMan978 it's not flat bud, proportionally TE is the most accurate to the show
Like a wise Swivel fanatic reviewer called Jobby the Hobb once said referring to all the accessories that just inflate that price.
“I don’t give a shit”
@@TMan978 There are plenty of G1 episodes where Prime, doesn't have a backpack at all. As far as Primus having a humongous backpack...What do you expect, he's a planet.
I've had MP-44 since it was released, have owned the MS one for about a year now, and got TE-01 Op about a week ago for my birthday. Looking back now, considering how many problems MP-44 had and how much it cost, I kinda regret buying it, especially for that much money. MP-44 left my display the moment I got Magic Square Light of Freedom, which in my opinion is already ahead of the official MP-44 in the looks and QC department, but now that one's itself been replaced by TE-01. I just love the highly cartoon accurate and clean look (way cleaner than MP-44 especially), and no QC issues whatsoever. It's my favorite out of the bunch. Although I'd advise anyone to pick up either MS or TE over MP-44. They're both very good options, and MP-44 just isn't all it's cracked up to be.
I really loved this comparison! I have MP-44, and it is certainly my favourite Transformer. Hopefully, the repair vid comes out soon! I really want to get a TE and MS as well, but in different colours.
Go through my playlist because the repair video already up. It's been up for a while. All the cool kids have watched it already. What are you waiting for?! You're one of the cool kids aren't you?
Those qc issues Takara is having really should not have been there for the huge price tag. Also I have seen the MP 44 having knee problems. The are prone to break very easily. That really sucks. He looks great but with all these issues and the price it really bothers me. I like the TE one. But still on the fence about which one to get. Thanks for sharing Tman
Thanks for watching and I agree
I ordered the TE. No way can i afford mp-44 prices. Thanks for the comparisons.
You can afford it. Sell TE and start saving $50 a paycheck
Don G - "Afford" vs "Justify" should be clarified. I sold MP10 but kept his trailer to use with TE. Not so Shiny Fresh compared to glorious MP44, perhaps, but even with combined cost still 60% less than MP44. That difference in $$$ affords more toon style characters on my shelf to stand with Toon Prime: ie MP Hound, MP BB v2, Wheeljack+, etc.
@@TMan978 TE is far superior and it's not even close. Give TE a paint job and this isn't even conversation.
TE is an okay figure but I don't know about far superior. The articulation is extremely limited in comparison to MP-44 and Magic Square. And me saying by comparison is being super generous. I have Transformer Siege figures with better articulation.
I think a lot of people's opinion is suede exclusively by statute static looks
@@TMan978 True, personally I'm not a big poser guy. Yes, I'll pose my figures, but the solidness, and the brilliance of the engineering is what I love.
People who aren't as knowledgeable as us on Transformers are shocked to find out that the TE-01 I have can actually transform into a truck.
The smoothness and the cleanliness of the look is what really draws me in about it.
I have the Magic Square one too, but I have the Ultra Magnus paint scheme version, which is BEAUTIFUL.
I'm about to order the Nemesis Prime MP-49 to round out my Optimus MP collection in all it's major forms.
Got the MP10 Ghostbusters Prime, and the ones mentioned, so they'll all be unique representations of the core 4.
Transform Element Op leader is the best in my opinion. It’s more accurate than all of them. MP 44 is second.
Mp 44 and the other 2 3rd party primes are like having a cartoon contest and mp 10 is doing his own thing just fine.
And mp01 is sitting at the corner crying thinking everyone hates him.
He's passed his Prime
"Meh, I'll wait for the KO", lol, nice comparison
Good luck..good luck...
@thors stopmotion studios and reviews I was kidding...
That MP44 ramming the insecticon is a dope display option!
Thx
@TrashTownTV the review will be up today. Click the notification bell
Mp10 is the clear winner aesthetically even 10 years on.
I think the mp-44 should of been a little longer in the torso section also should of been a little less bulky on the back. But we should be happy that they even made it.
Wow that 2nd TE headsculpt looks really good next to the mp-44! If TE has shown that headsculpt and not had that unsightly gray hinge on the belt line I woyukd have got it when it first came out.
He feels the best I don't know if I said that. I just hate the articulation though
Great video! To your question! I'm gonna be honest I can't answer your question without being a little biased as I own TE01 Optimus Prime. So I asked my daughter who has absolute no knowledge of who's who. My daughter said first mp10 then TE then MP44 and finally magic square. Of course I completely disagree but then I'm biased. So on appearance beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Lol.
Great video, I love seeing them side by side.
I used to not care so much about ab crunch, but after seeing how posable the MP-44, I kind of wish they'll release TE-01 2.0 with better articulation.
I would definitely pick MP-44 if money is not a problem for me.
I don't have any but think they all look excellent. MP10 really appeals to me.
TE-01 ftw!!!
No paint or knee issues
No ugly backpack
Great price.
👍🏽
Everyone's out here with their masterpieces and fancy third party OPs and I'm over here happy with my siege Optimus Prime
But if I had to choose any of these, I would probably go with OP leader. I think it looks the best, and sure it doesn't have amazing articulation like MP44, but to me it's good enough, and while he doesn't have as many accessories, he has all of the essentials and the ones that I actually care about outside of the trailer, but I can always just buy MP10's trailer, and it would be way better price than MP44's ridiculous cost. I think if I had to rank, OP Leader, MP44 close behind, and Magic Square at last place but still pretty damn good. I can't really rank MP10 since it's so radically different than the others and it's one of the best transformers in its own right, just not one of the most show accurate.
Hopefully you grab Earthrise Prime, I think you'll like it.
@@dknight121212 my older brother has it and honestly, it's good, but I like siege Prime better. The new one has really compromised proportions in favor of less kibble, and it's not really worth it to me
Mp10 is the coolest looking for me. An Mp10 figure with the articulation of the MS figure or Mp44 would be the best Optimus in my opinion.
I feel it’s hard for anyone to say the te doesn’t look the best when they are standing next to each other.
I will admit to you that he is the cleanest but he looks flat to me and looks like a shampoo bottle toy
@@TMan978 I agree, I have TE and it needs a clear coat and chrome parts. I hope they release a premium version.
But, I campare it to the MP-44 of a friend and TE has that feeling of superior product at hand, it is clean and heavy and its ratchets are strong. It feels really solid at hand, you doesn't feel that something is gona break or unclip.
@@carlosgonzalezramirez6423 it's the diecast.
Amazing comparison T. MP-44 Still wins it for me for Cartoon & Articulation. MP-10 just became my Toy version.
What if they reboot deadline and start making more articulated actual G1 robots where Optimus has a bumper for a crotch and he's wearing a medieval Knight mask and has a big hole in his back but he has a ball joint in neck. Lol and double jointed elbows
From my Ranking for having these figures
Painting
1. Mp44
2. TE-OP
3. MS
4. Mp10
Cartoon Accuracy
1. TE-OP
2. Mp44
3. MS
4. Mp10
Articulation and possibility
1. Mp44
2. MS
3. TE-OP
4. Mp10
Transformation
1. Mp10
2. MS
3. TE-OP
4. Mp44
Accessories *not including trailers*
1. Mp44 obviously
2. TE-OP
3. MS
4. Mp10
TRU Exclusive MP10 in Box For Display.... and the KO MP44 to Open/Play with. I know you're waiting for the But Lol I'll leave it out.
Thanks for doing these! I've been watching a few of em over the last Year+ in aid of my decision making Lol
That crazy a 500 dollars figure and the paint is pilling off hahaha
I have an idea for a future comparison video
MP-10
Vs
Earthrise/Kingdom
Vs
MP-44
Vs
SS86 (upcoming figure)
If anything like that, that could see comparing MP44 to Studio Series 86 or a Studio Series to earthrise but MP10 is too far back for me and doesn't fit the super cartoon accurate aesthetic. He's lucky he was included here due to his scale.
I like the MP-10 Cab look. It has a G1 look but also a realistic look. The transformation is simple and fun, and even though there were compromises to the weapon to get it to fit in his back, I still really like the weapon storage. Also the micro-figure doesn't explode every time you mess with it. The only thing that bothers me on that figure is that his ab grill is a bit too long and weird looking. Other than that, I still love MP-10. Hopefully I can get him some day. Great video as always!
MP-44 is the best out of all them because trailer, cartoon accuracy, more accessories, more of a realistic/slick look while maintaining the various art-style of the character.
Depends on what you’re looking for, my favs are Mp10 and ms01 because I think that’s how they would look irl
Edit: te looks the most cartoon acurate and mp44 has great articulation
FYI, the 3rd batch of TE-01 now has a Opaque Blue Windshield.
robotoybase.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4904
You sure about that?
I think Mp44 is by far the best. I'm just waiting for a second batch. With the qc fixed. You know like they did with beast wars Megatron. Thanks for the comparison. Was debating on transform element but. I don't think it really holds a candle to the real deal. Despite his price I think he's just superior
Thank you for watching and your opinions
My MP-44 is on its way and I can't wait. I will have all four of these at that point. I love the TE... BUT... I'm sure MP-44 will take the top spot, lol. I've heard of the knee problem and look forward to your fix video in case I have an issue. Thanks very much for all the informative content you put out! Very much appreciated.
I'm filming that video now I need to stop procrastinating
I like MP-10 the most.
1. It’s accurate, but adds its own designs that respect the cartoon and make it more detailed in a way, the gray stripes on his forearms are a good example.
2. His quality is impressive. Yeah MP-44 looks more cartoon accurate and glossy, but that paint chipping is a problem, and MP-10 has enough quality to rival 44 in my opinion.
3. He has just enough accessories that DONT artificially jack up the price.
4. Speaking of the price. For his mold, accessories, quality, and all around whole thing is fairly a decent price. Something MP-44 has the short end of the stick on.
5. I think he has the most details in terms of the chest, windows, matrix, and legs etc.
Just overall a great figure.
MP-44 is good too, but $500 bucks? No thanks.
Thank you for watching
Now, I was excited for mp-44 thinking it would be incredible, and he looks good, but I would consider him the mp-09 of Optimus primes… he looks good! I will never deny that, but the reports of breaking, how expensive he is ($850 today…) I just don’t consider him worth it to me personally, but that’s ok! Just because I’m not a fan doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get it if you don’t wanna! The non official ones are awesome, but I love mp-10 the most, and this comparison has me excited to get mine! (Won him from an auction, hopefully it isn’t terrible because looks can be deceiving) still, cool figures with a 10/10 chill review, keep it up 👍
MP 10 is cool to me but in comparison to the other options He is the most boring when it comes to articulation.
Man Magic Square looks really good. What’s cheap about it? Plastic, paint? Good comparison review.
I don't like the way it feels and the price is cheap in comparison
$250 for mp-44. just the figure no back truck - that would have been perfect. ... hard for me to cough up $370-$450 for this. articulation is king however - thats why mp44 wins in my opinion ...
For just Optimus I would hope it's under two hundred bucks
MP-44 is a good $170, mainly because of the vast amount of paint and parts.
I've had all 4. My personal favourites are te01 for robot and mp10 with trailer for truck.
Did you get the 2.0 Optimus from magic Square? TE was my least favorite because I like articulation and his body looks so flat and square
@@TMan978 I had the MS-02EX. he was good, I felt the plastic was a. Bit flimsy, and didn't like the hollows on his wrists and ankles. They're all good. But I preferred te01. 😁
MP-10 always catches the eye and stands out the most
People who were to young or just not around at the time dont understand what a big deal mp10 was at the time it was released to be fair the same can be said about mp01 but more so . They seem dated now but they were real game changers that made us all sit up and pay attention . I now have all three versions and wont ever be swlling them
I like the MP-44 OP but..Ima stick with the MP-10 more because I just love how the figure looks, all the details on the truck mode just looks so amazing in my opinion
I kept telling people mp44 will blow the others away. The back pack never bothered me. Often imitated but never duplicated. Lol
I agree
Mp01 and Mp 44 both have hip skirts. While Mp10 doesn't have any. Which could of been added but chose not to.
That's true..
The MP44 is easily my favorite of the 4. Though I am tempted to get the TE one in Nemesis Prime’s colors
Not sure if someone already mentioned it but the black trailer hitch piece on TE-01 allows you to hook up MP-10's trailer perfectly.
That's something I neglected to mention. The problem is you have to own mp10 or his trailer to use it
@@TMan978 very true! I am in that boat
... ordered TE-01 and now I need a trailer! 😂
(reads description) "I think there's another G1 Optimus Prime, but screw that guy" Maybe either MP-01 or Toyworld Primorion...
Anyway, the perfect Megatron to go with these Primes--
MP-10 - Maketoys Despotron
Light of Freedom - X-Transbots Apollyon (because they both have articulated fingers)
OP Leader - DX9 Mightron (the Masterpiece size one, not the Core/Legends one)
MP-44 - MP-36 (show accurate, TakaraTomy)
I don't include MPO1 because He is obsolete in today is Masterpiece World
This was an enjoyable comparison video to watch. However, now that Magic Square has released a second version of its Light of Peace figure and there is an improved knock-off version of MP44, I think a new, updated video is in order.
People have probably made their own opinion
@@TMan978 You forgot the full stop. Anyway, of course they have, but I would be interested in hearing _your_ opinion.
I have a video on MS 2.0. I mention thoughts compared to mp44
@@TMan978 But not MS-02EX, evidently.
Imagine my thoughts on the regular version but shiny and then you'll have the gist. Lol.
Here are my ultimate thoughts, as much as I love MP44, the MS 2.0 and any variant is more fun to handle and pose. Aesthetically, they look better in robot mode because they don't have a gigantic backpack and they are easier to transform.
Optimus Prime didn’t have a huge ass backpack. The Transform Element has the most accurate back. MP-44 has the least accurate due to the voice gimmick. Also as far as cartoon accuracy, which what MP-44 is going for, the legs have always been obvious.
Thank for watching
TMan978 🧂
Te's back is way too flat. The g1 cartoon optimus had a backpack but not as big as mp44's
Thanks for making this video. Loved it. I think MP-44 is my fave.
The way you pose all 4 of them kinda make me jealous
I have to return two of them so don't be too jealous.
I highly disagree with TE-01 having too flat of a back. Just checked a few clips from The Transformers: The Movie and it’s pretty much perfect.
👍🏾
If paint chipping and QC issues weren't present and the price wasn't outrageous (I know you didn't want me to throw price in there but still), then MP-44 is the best to me. I have the other three and Magic Square is my least favorite. I hate the articulation in the hips and legs and he just doesn't look good when posed dynamically. TE-01 is my go to Prime until I save up enough for MP-44(could've gotten him but I used the funds for the ThreeA Last Knight Optimus Prime... gorgeous figure btw lol). Awesome comparison video though. They display well together.
It's okay. Those really are good points. I wish I could have reworded some of that. My least favorite is everyone's favorite. TE
@@TMan978 That's kind of Ironic. I think I know why so many like it though. Cartoon accuracy. While the TE may lack in the articulation, it does provide a cheaper alternative to mp44. You know, for all those that are broke out there. Even with his backpack, mp44 would be an easy sell for me if he was just a little bit cheaper. I'm not even talking a lot cheaper either. If he was, I don't know, a 100-150 cheaper I would be on board. That said, I do understand the price. Just a bit much to justify for me.
I paid 330 which is almost $150 off that US price
Ideally I would get mp-44 articulation on MS aesthetics and that would be ideal. But for me aesthetics trumps everything so MS is my personal favorite. The MP44 aesthetic is just way too gangly and toonie, I don't like that. Plus knowing that knee is going to drop out from under a $400+ figure just doesn't work for me. TE is a capable toon-enough fill in. MP10 is just outgunned, but his trailer is good for the two 3p guys in alt mode.
Had mp 10 and Magic square and liked them at the time but decided to take a third dip and got mp44 and this is my prime now very with it. Completes mp36
I'm waiting for the the leader class Earthrise Optimus Prime. That figure looks amazing and it won't cost me a sizable chunk of my paycheck.
Man...I never thought of this. They are totally comparable. He'll fit right in with Masterpiece too!!
@@TMan978 oh yeah. I can't justify Masterpiece prices.
@@TMan978 So four years later and I now have bought a secondhand Transform Element TE-01 Version 2.0. and now I want to also get the cell shaded version. I just bought a Magic Square MS-01 Metallic version and it's on the way. If Magic Square ever re-releases the MS-02EX (painted version), I will buy that one too. These Masterpiece figures are awesome. I still mainly collect CHUG though and I love my Earthrise Prime with the rest of the main line for scale. Sorry I'm late to the party. Lol
i have te01 and i love him but i have 2 issues with it compared to mp44 he isnt as posable and that knee swivel only works with certain poses and the pivot isnt enough, and the second issue is that he doesn't scale well with mp36 megatron bc if you only count the heads on both figures heights, megatron is taller, but if u only count their shoulders, te01 is taller
Yes the look and feel of TE is good but articulation is definitely lacking. Having to push a button to use the butterfly joint is annoying as well.
To me:
TE
MS
Mp 10
Mp 44
For the truk mode
Mp10
TE
Ms
Mp44
P.s. they look great togever
I feel like if they could just squash magic square width ways by 5% it would be the cleanest and best looking. And if TE01 just had the more rounded aspects of MP44 that would be the number 1
Man that’s a $440 figure with weak knees everybody got on hydra so bad I hope a third-party comes out with the fix I’ll buy the fix before I buy the figure
I keep saying this. Anyone who paid over $330 for this guy is a fool who hasn't listened to anything I've been saying all year. Amazon.jp, invest your gaze there.
Personally even 330 was too much for some broke knees This figure is going to be on the market for a long time anyway let’s see how it slowly decreases in value unless they bring the next wave out with a fixed Let’s see what Hasbro does hopefully they’ll be smarter about it
Damn fine review and that song at the end had me rollin!!! 👏🙌
Thank you for watching
A bit weird to say that the KO's aren't having enough extra's you can easily buy them and the trailers you always buy separately. Thanks for the video. Don't agree with your KO decisions because the MP44 3.0 will have paint chips not acceptable for a figure worth of 300 dollars. The Element one costs you what 95 dollars... It's an amazing figure to have and sturdy.
They're not KO because they are original designs. I prefer the articulation and sculpt of MP44 more. I don't care that those figures are cheaper. The price doesn't make them better to me. Mp44 looks better to me and can definitely Outpose everything on that video. Even if MP44 was $100 with no trailer, I would still like it more.
They should redo mp 01 to make the vehicle more accurate, I love the aesthetic of mp01
I think they already did that when they made mp10 and mp44. That was their idea of remaking mp01
TMan978 l just think the new toys are slowly becoming more cartoony. That’s not bad but I like the life like kind of style of g1 (thanks for responding)
@@deltawave4669 you're probably going to have to go third-party. You can get an MPP 10
TMan978 I do have a kbb mp10v that’s nearly destroyed
Really bothers me how much space is between the trailer and cab in mp 44. Can't get over that. I'll wait for the next mold.
That is a very unique complaint. It's like that for two reasons one so you can store the gun back there unhindered and two so it can actually rotate. How often are you going to be transforming it?
I got lucky with my mp-44 because I'm seeing a lot of warped/bent antennas on the two regular face sculpts with the season 1 head usually being the most warped. I really like the te but wish they went for full on paint/better more accurate color, would've gladly paid a few dollars more for it. Instead of buying expensive third party stickers for the Windows, I just peel the labels off of Fiji water bottles and cut them to size and they're the perfect animation blue. Have it on te, mp10, and my 2 idw primes(with generation toy making the superior version when it comes to idw primes,it even looks good next to takara g1 figures, particularly from mp36 onward) I understand people being upset about takaras price hikes but don't understand the hate on the figures themselves. I guess if you feel like you've been priced out of a line you collect it's hard to see past it but 44 is the best g1 prime to date and hating on its design makes people just seem salty to me. Who knows maybe they just truly prefer other products aesthetics but I highly doubt it's the case deep down. It does leave fans toys with a opportunity to make a power move by releasing something of their quality and current design aesthetic at a lower price point following up their upcoming soundwave, megatron, etc and show that they're more than just some third party company.
Yeah the season 1 face is definitely warped on both of mine. Since it's so then it's an easy fix I've just been being lazy.
TMan978 with everyone gunning for them(takara) because of the higher price points, it seems like they should've been all over everything with this release to make sure they didn't leave room for any complaints(particularly for careless qc issues/mistakes that could've easily been avoided) there's a couple of other things you hit on (like the knees) and paint that they should've worked out for the final product because you already know the Chinese ko companies like infinite transformations will fix it with their release that will probably sell for a hundred bucks or less(without the trailer) with morons that don't understand why genuine products cost more than fakes to begin with taking their immature, stunted emotions out on takara even more.
Great video! You’re my #1 guy now for TF reviews!
Thank you.
Best comparison video yet. My favourite is TE 01. I like the cleanliness in both modes. I have mp10 still love it but it's trailer is in a closet except for the two or three days a year i transform mp10 or TE 01. Sorry to see the paint scratch hopefully you can touch it up along with fixing the knees.
No I already fixed one knee
And now all of these have been surpassed by Light of Peace.
Eeeeeh
Maybe if we get a knock off MP 44 I will be able to get the mold, but I just can't justify another MP Optimus in my budget right now at that price. Looks great though.
This is where getting each mold as a separate character works, one as optimus one as magnus one as nemesis...one as....i dont know...one of the weird out of character repaints of mp10 maybe...
The art work changed randomly in the toon and comics. Me I couldn't really complain. Mp10 is fine for me. However I plan to cop the bigger prime and megatron. For scale purposes of course.
Did you mention the fact MP44's knees bend backwards just a bit to emulate a cartoon curve? And that MP-10's knees bend backwards as well?
Probably not but I'm pretty sure people have seen that in promotional pictures.
I got the version 4 ko of mp44 and for the most part its coloured plastic instead of a paint job which im more than happy with as i cant stand scuffed and scratched paint from transforming it or it falling over. It mzy not look as premium but it still looks swesome to me
MP-44 the best for sure! So glad I got mine.
Thanks for watching anyway
MP-44 looks skinny for me, it has a huge back bag, the chest has too many gaps, the front cabin truck is not as nice as MP-10 truck, transformation is too tricky and takes loooong time. I still highly prefer MP-10, I know it depends of tastes, I'm waiting for a new Prime version.
That's nice
That paint chipping on MP44..hmm..I wonder if they should have at least applied a clear coat on some of Prime's areas, since it's shiny already.
It looks like they did put a clear coat on his whole body. That crotch area is a different story. It reminds me of when I got my mp hot rodimus. What I didn't know was it was a pre-production sample. after a couple months the paint started falling off like crazy especially the yellow paint so whatever yellow paint their using it's not good
Depends on what ur looking for, cartoon accurate? Pick MP-44. Budget? TE-01. Just a solid/stylized version of prime? MS-01. If optimus’ g1 design was real: MP-10
Personally, I really like MP-10 and MP-01’s vibes, it’s as if G1 was live action but still really similar to G1
I can agree with this. I just wish mp01 had a better truck mode and better a whole bunch of other things like joints that don't give out after a while.
@@TMan978 yeah, I see what you mean
5:36 random extra part but it adds trailer functionality with mp10's trailer
All the things you said were wrong with te op leader were fixed with his release and damn he kicks mp44 ass. He is a great alternative without having to sell a kidney
Thanks for watching.
@@TMan978 your welcome. You did a very good comparison. It allows people to see the best and worst parts of the figures and make a informed decision on which one the consumer should buy depending on what the can afford.
All worthy of becoming Toxitron.
I honestly still love mp-10. The proportions aren't great, but mp-44 sacrifices details I prefer on my primes (silver stripe, painted vents) for slavish accuracy to the cartoon. It's still a great figure, but considering the accessories of the officials, mp-10 has still gotta be the best.
Thank you for watching. As stated in the video, I am the opposite of this opinion. Screen to physical representation has been my dream for almost 40 years. We have been getting cartoon non-accuracy for years.
@@TMan978 and to be fair, I love it too. Again, I prefer mp10, but it's cool to see such a dead on design. It's just that I love realistic alt modes, and if I'm spending over 100 dollars, that kinda stuff is what I prioritize
The ultimate comparison
Thank you for watching.
You sold me on magic square. I love the side to side comparison
You'll like it. You might not like how it feels but it's good enough
Ive got the mp10 and love it. But the other models definitely have the old school cartoon look that brings some extra nostalgia. I'd go for any of these beautiful renditions
The price for the new mp prime doesn’t bother me as much as the bum knee and the paint chipping. If a figure costs that much it shouldn’t have those problems.
According to emgo’s review, I think your supposed to articulate the top of the knee first and there’s actually a small piece that tabs in and then you are free to move the lower knee joint without breaking it. If that is actually true, then it’s less of a QC issue, and more of an over engineering issue. Seems maybe they got a bit more complicated than they should have. The paint chipping I agree is a headache that shouldn’t be there
It doesn't help. It's inevitable unless you don't move the knees anymore
One comparison you didn't do: trailers.
I'ma go watch your individual reviews now, mainly just the MP-10 and MP-44. Aesthetics wise, I prefer MP-10. I like that he's bulkier and I like the chrome shins, but it's a shame about the smaller gun.
Aw, damn, I can't find an MP-10 review on your channel. Maybe I didn't search the right terms or something.
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This is the closest thing I have to a review
MP-44 is the best All-time in my opinion.
Bullshit
You're a shill
MP-10 and what makes mine special to me is it not only looks badass on my shelf but it's also a Toys R Us exclusive!
I have the same one as well.
Ok complaining how te01 is too flat is just too far. Mp44's back pack is WAY too thick. Te's might be a bit flat, but it's 10 times more accurate than mp44's back. Still love the vid anyways.
Yes, TE-01 is far superior. Again, a paint job is the only thing MP-44 has on it. More poseable? Big f'n deal. TE-01 is what MP-44 should have been.
@@LetsGetitBoah I actually prefer te01 paint job, it makes him look more g1 than mp44
I'm happy you guys are happy and I'm also happy that you watched my video
I may have to start saving up for MP44 after watching your videos... Especially depending on the knee fix. It would be a roll of the dice to see if he gets fixed and easier to find over the next several months (hey, Christmas is coming and the kids get priority), or just harder to get and pricier. But hey, if I get the money and he's not around, I could get another cool figure instead. Or a major household appliance, but we'll see what happens when I get there.
It is a dice roll. My friends yesterday was telling me that they make tens of thousands of these things. In my experience, the popular characters disappear. but this is a special case where the toy has almost $500 depending on where you buy it.
AMAZING COMPARISON VIDEO
Thanks
I like the ms more than the other, but TE is more show accurate
When going for cartoon accuracy, this is obviously te01 vs mp44. Mp44 is extremely articulated, but I mostly have my Optimus prime figures in vanilla hero poses, so the extra articulation would just be an added bonus for me.
With all except the first batch of releases, (Later releases of te01 have better ratchets with more teeth, and some other articulation based things were adjusted that I can’t remember. The new head was also included in these releases. That’s the version I was able to get.) the te is not super limited, you can get pretty much most of the basic “prime specific” poses you’d need, other than the more advanced poses that I’ve noticed your channel is more geared towards. (It is pretty limited when compared to the mp44 but most other prime figures aren’t as articulated as mp44) The thigh swivel is made up for at the knee swivel. No, it’s not as good as a thigh swivel but it doesn’t really bother me, having the swivel at the knee is better than not having any swivel at all.
I don’t have the problem with te01s gun fitting in the hand, mine fits extremely well. Mp44s look to me is always thrown off when I look at the abundant amount of panel lines and cuts from transformation. For me, accuracy is one of the top categories, and one thing I’ve noticed with mp44 is the panel lines. Of course, all the figures have panel lines, but they’re very apparent on mp44. The legs have a lot of lines and cuts, and some of the articulation causes the figure to look weird. This is pretty minor, but I wanted to point it out because sometimes they throw off how the figure looks to me.
The voice feature is also incredibly cool, but I just hate the backpack it gives the figure. Prime in the show does have a slight “backpack” protrusion, but the backpack on mp44 is like, three times the size of that. I’d much rather not have the voice feature if it means a better backpack and overall look for the figure. Maybe they could’ve done something similar to mp36 Megatron, where the voice feature was in the weapon? (That brings up another thing, it seems like takara with the newer mps are neglecting the backs of the figures. Masteprice bumblebee 2.0 *cough cough* ) I feel that te looks more show accurate physically, having much less panel lines and gaps, but show accuracy is kind of weird since the g1 models for basically every character changed so often and were drawn differently almost every episode.
The glossy paint on mp44 looks incredible. It’s a shame they didn’t use stronger paint because almost every video I’ve seen of the guy has paint chips. The panel lines and backpack kinda kill it for me, but not too much, Ultimately, without price as a factor, I’d probably get mp44. Maybe a second release without the trailer and extra stuff, (regardless of price still) since chances are 90% of the extras will end up in the box in storage. The thing with the price is not that I cannot afford it, it is that I cannot justify spending almost 200 extra dollars for a box and some mini figures, since we know the prime alone with the gun and axe is around $250, and that extra 200 bucks could go towards things I need or even other figures.
But still, like I said, I’d probably go with mp44 because of the articulation and how the glossy paint pops. A “dream scenario” for me, if magically possible, would be the te01 body with the waist and thigh articulation and glossy paint of mp44. Gun, axe, the basics. I can perfectly well see why you would choose mp44. It makes sense, you like making cool extravagant poses that the others can’t do, or can’t do well. (Especially mp10, which hasn’t aged the best, but is still a respectable mold.) I think this is a case where there really isn’t a clear unanimous winner, since people want different things. Some prefer articulation over accuracy, or some prefer old g1 toy looks over cartoon looks, some may not even like the cartoon look. I have the te01 and Im going to get the flame toys G1 prime model kit, which is way more articulated than even mp44 but non-transforming. So really it depends on what you want in your prime figure(s).
FYI. If you ever plan on typing this much stuff in somebody's comments, please separate things by paragraphs. My attention span is trash. Good sentence structure helps me with a desire to read.
TMan978 yeah my bad, it was 3 am and I just kept adding stuff. Should be better now
What are the odds you think theyll reissue mp44 anytime soon, Tman? I'm getting the ko anyway but I like having the official along with a ko to fiddle with.
I thought he was still in stock everywhere.
Since they like money, I think the chances are high. They've already released a repaint
@@TMan978 yeah he's still in stock in us. I was hoping for another chance at him at the price he was on Amazon jp. It was a perfect storm of b.s. that made me lose my pre-order. Let's just say it all started someone other than me trying to use my credit card. Everything worded out though. If these us guys ever drop the price I'll just say screw it and get him then. Starscream and thundercracker are already set.
I have MP-10 and MP-44. I absolutely LOVE MP-44 but I can't bring myself to retire MP-10, I have so much love for that mold. I do really like Magic Square's matte finish and I think his head sculpt is amazing! He also seems to have the longest neck which I like. I wish MP-44 had his neck. But yeah MP-44 all the way, great review!
I do wish he had a longer neck as well
Id be fine paying the price for mp44 but the paint chipping and knee failures arent worth it for the price. I was thinking about getting magic square for the possibility and i love the look but i am happy with my mp10 takara ver with painted eyes haha. Maybe if takara does a reissue with all the issues fixed i might get him but of now id pass. However, the ko looks very nice as it has most of my issues fixed and supposed to have some diecast and what not. Could you do a review on the ko and all the improvements or what not wad made?
That's the plan.