Cap, Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. Here's how:- Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too? 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@RibbYT 1. I dont debate bleach anymore, so I'm not gonna read any further reply of yours nor reply after this. 2. Dont bother engaging in a debate if your entire argument is "nO UlQuIoRrA sTrOnGEr." There is 0 evidence for that claim. Anyways, muted. Bye.
Don't forget that Ulqiuorra got a buff from being in Hueco Mundo so his attacks were more potent, the top 3 Espada were in Fake Karakura Town which had next to no reishi in the air. Makes it easy to stand in the air and fly around but you power is a little lower I imagine.
That's just Ulquiorra assuming aizen didn't know about his R2 there's no confirmation about it whatsoever and honestly it's very unlikely for aizen to not know everything that happens with the espada's
Whether he knew or not read the novels. Ulquiorra Is literally the reincarnation of the strongest hollow species to ever exist. Ishida described his spiritual pressure as a "ocean of reatsu, an ocean above the sky. Alien like spiritual pressure?" Cmon lol. You think Ulquiorra would have lost to a slice on his hollow hole? With his regen? 🤡
Ulquiorra was stronger. Compare Ichigo to the people Starrk fought (Shunsui and Vizards) and then compare Ichigo to Ulquiorra. Ichigo was on par with Gotei 13 captains and yet Ulquiorra was many times stronger than him. Starrk lost basically to only Shunsui since Vizards didn't really do much. Even if Shunsui was stronger than Ichigo at the moment he definitely wasn't as strong as Ulquiorra. Also, if you think about it, Ulquiorra is the perfect representation of a hollow, he was cold, didn't express emotion as if he was literally "hollow" inside. Starrk was an awesome character and I'm really sad we didn't see more of him but Ulquiorra was made to be the strongest hollow. No hax, no weird abilities, just straight up overwhelming power.
Nope. Don't underestimate Vizards too much, bc they were average captain or lieutenant level 100 years ago, so they have gotten a lot stronger. Plus Hollow mask boosts them, making Vizards definitely stronger than Ichigo hollowfied mask + Bankai form before Ulquiorra fight. Love and Rose were able to keep up with Starrk, while Ichigo was struggling in battle vs base Ulquiorra.
Nope, Starrk takes it. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too? 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@DeimosCodeines bruh, PSK has miracle and visionary, basically the equivalent of Ho-Gyo-Ku. And he is immortal as well. And he has other abilities like Almighty, X-Axis etc.
@@DeimosCodeines You can't even scale. Anni Aizen is 9 layers above boundless, so is PSK. He can evolve immeasurable times, and each time get 10 times stronger like Aizen, making him 9 layers above boundless as well.
Thr Espadas who fought in Karakura town were not at their full potential coz of reishi Hueco Mundo is full of reishi whereas Fake Karakura wasn't made of reishi
@@Bambietta_is_better Nope, Clyde didn't debunk anything. Lving world has less concentrated reishi than SS/HM. Uryuu said spiritual beings are stronger in reishi concentrated areas. Chad also stated that he felt as if he was getting stronger in HM. Clyde literally hides people from his comments, when they try to provide an argument. Also, Unohana is mid.
Ulquiorra fought Ichigo not Kyorako Shinsui who is 10 times stronger than Ichigo at that time. If he use his shadow technique in Hueco Mundo he will wipe the floor with Ulquiorra so easily.
@@ken-14san94 vasto lorde slaps shunsui, he thought he had to bankai just by looking at starkk, and aizen wanted ichigo to master the vasto lorde so he would beat him,
@@Smeker__ that if we count ulquorra first resurrection but second have better stats and it's actually debateble on speed too because Whit second resurrection ulquorra is the strongest Espada, excluse tybw grimjow and hell granz
@🃏 chewié 🃏 I know that but unohana said that Ichigo bankai after the fight was strong as an a captain top ranked by strenght with only 50% of him reyatsu and vasto Lord is stronger than that Ichigo after the fight
Ulquiorra the only espada to gain 2nd release if not for that yes stark but by far everyone thought ulquirroa was the strongest even before finding out the rankings
Ulqiorra wins cause it is stated in databook that aizen knew he has 2 forms so he was the the only two of one other is yammy who will make ichigo go on special howlified form and that super massive attack of his can bast of a planet very easily and writer of bleach wanted a special movie for the first and the animation studio did it the fight in which ulqiorra actually did damage to vastloid ichigo and that's how the writter wanted this fight to happen. A youtuber explained it. Please watch itth-cam.com/video/oR7ML6P2D8M/w-d-xo.html
Nope, Starrk is stronger. Also, the TH-camr you're referring to, is a trash scaler. I made a comment, which debunked his video, and as a result, he deleted my comment. This has happened to multiple people BTW. Anyways:- Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
2 resurrection ≠ Automatic win. Is Bankai Toshiro stronger than Yamamoto, because he's in Bankai, but not Yamamoto, obviously not. Furthermore:- Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He can also shoot a 1000 ceros at an instant, which should mathematically rival the power of 3 CO, and he also has cero matralleta. 5/50+ of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15~ wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can easily overpower with his 1000 cero attack, since 1000 ceros rival the power of 3 CO). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Nope Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too? 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Wrong, he loses to Starrk. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Nope, he loses high diff. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
The Lanza is innacurate (stated verbatim), and Starrk is just as fast as Ulquiorra, he can easily dodge them. Starrk is better in CQC, so Ulquiorra's lanza isn't even helping as a close range weapon.
Bad take. Having a 2nd release, doesn't automatically mean you're the strongest. Is Bankai Byakuya stronger than Shikai Yamamoto (because he's using his bankai, unlike Yama)? No, he isn't. Moreover, VL Ichigo isn't above all captains, some of the top tier captains do in fact beat him. Furthermore, Vasto Lorde Ichigo wasn't the bare minimum power required to beat Ulquiorra, considering VL stomped Ulquiorra. Starrk is stronger. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Cap. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Ichigo is multi-universal to multiversal (ima say multi-universal as their is actual proof) saitama is multi galaxy but ichigo is 6d with his mugetsu and beyond bankai form
Wrong Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too? 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon Damn!! ok bro I get it thanks for this🔥❤️ But if you show the fight between Ichigo and Ulquiorra and Stark vs Shunsui Any people on this planet will say Ulquiorra is strongest
@@SpiritedFalcon Uryu in the HM arc stated that Hollows and Arrancar are many times stronger in Hueco compared to the living world or the SS in the official translation, and in fan translations he said they’re on another level compared to the other realms. In both he said that even hollows that look weak could be dangerous to them, and the Arrancar especially are the most dangerous with their amps
Tough one because aizen had more faith and trust in ulquiorra than all of the espada and he was created for the soul purpose of manifesting the vasto lorde form of white (zangetsu) so ichigo would be strong enough to defeat aizen
It was moreso because of his loyalty, and cold blooded personality. Ulquiorra was gonna show Ichigo the path of despair and torment him, which wasn't gonna happen with the other Espada (maybe except for Halibel), due to their characters.
Nah, bro. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too? 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon his feats where not better, his strongest attacks couldn't kill shunshui or severely hurt the captains , when you say feats he only has speed and high reiatsu nothing else and ulquiorra matches that in his 2nd ressurection
Starrk Los Lobos > Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too? 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Cap, Starrk >. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Nope, Starrk > Ulquiorra. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@yeager1234 If it's "factually wrong", then why don't you actually refute it? Otherwise, it's a baseless statement. I'm only copy pasting, to save me the time to not have to re-write the same thing over and over again, and by your own logic, saying "Ulquiorra slaps Starrk", doesn't make it true, you didn't even provide any evidence for that claim, it's baseless.
Nope, I think Ulquiorra is cooler, but he loses to Starrk. Power: Ulquiorra Combat: Starrk Speed: Both Durability: Ulquiorra Intelligence: Starrk Hax/Versatility: Starrk
Here's more info:- Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Старк спидблиц делает, улька в базе отлетает, во второй форме также, и в 3) старк дал хороший отпор Сунсую и Сунсуй на момент финал арки в соло всю эспаду сливает
People who think Ulquiorra is extremely superior to Starrk need to remember that Ulquiorra was still number 4. Even though Ulquiorra has a second release his base state and resurrection are very inferior to Starrk’s. It is only a debate because we don’t know just how much of a booster the second release gives Ulquiorra which is why it can even be discussed. Other than that Starrk mops the floor with first release Ulquiorra
You forget that principal main ability of Starrk is throw Ceros, for any other this is an Special Ability, and Yammy Reiatsu, Cero, Physical>>>>>>Starrk and Ulquiorra. Starrk was Arrancar before Aizen trnasfrom him, Ulquiorra wasn't. Starrk Reiatsu destroyed the hollows around him due the quantity, Ulquiorra doesnt show anything better, he is arrancar less time than Starrk. And Yammy is 0, greater Reiatsu, greater attacks, greater resistance, greater Cero. So is the same rank. Remember the Ulquorra transformations scenes, they both are nothing compared to 0, 1, 2 and 3 Espadas, these ones created a huge Reiatsu visible by eye... Bruh.
Nah. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
I am a ulquiorra fanboy- but for ulqy to even touch starrk, ulqy needs: ressurection to beat base starrk, and segunda etapa, maybe even BBS Tercera etapa for starrks ressurection.
Base stark > base Uluqiora Segubda etapa > every single Espada Yammy and Uluqiora are different compared to the rest of them and don't even give me that numbers bullshit if I should ask anyone who wins btw harribel and Uluqiora it'll be Uluqiora but harribel out ranks him Segubda etapa doesn't even have a number and it kept up with vastolorde ichigo and tanked a cero from it point blank After shunsui started his shikai game it was over for stark Strengh: Uluqiora Speed: Uluqiora ( I don't know how someone that perception blitz ichigo without a sonido is slower than someone that used a sonido to steal orihinme but ok) Iq/biq: Reiatsu: at base till red it's stark since he is number 1 but Segubda etapa demolishes with it's alien type reiatsu Skill: Durability: Uluqiora Hax: Uluqiora Ap/dc: Uluqiora
Segunda etapa doesnt beat every espafa. Yammy in the databooks is confirmed stronger than ulquiorra. The difference in power between release starrk and release ulquiorra is too masice to say a srcond release would change that. Perception blitzing ichigo is only an impressive feat if ichigo has the higher tiers of reaction speed, which he has never shown he has. Ulquiorra was already blitzing ichigo in 1st release, who is confirmed massively weaker than starrk, so that implies ichigos REACTION speed isnt that fast compared to the upper tier captains. Ulquiorra wasnt keeping up with vl ichigo. Vl ichigo perception blitz him twice in the fight and was tossing him around. Ulquiorra didnt tank vl ichigos rmcero point blank. He was basically dead already because of his organs but his regen allowed him to stand one last time. Thats all. Hallibel didnt have a number in release either. It means nothing to ulquiorra. All espadas lose the tattoos in their release but yammy keeps his because he is the only regular release to move up in rank. Strength can be debated Speed goes to ulquiorra Iq biq goes to starrk Rieatsu goes to starrk as well. His alien type rieatsu is debunked due to tge fact that not even characters far above ulquiorra such as base aizen has shown that lvl of feat, but we lnow base aizen has far higher rieatsu than ulquiorra. Kubo does these hype lvl feats in other areas as well such as when ichigos 1st getsuga tenshou looks larger in scale than his later getsuga tenshous. As well as the fact that ulquiorra was actively flexing his rieatsu while the other espadas weren't Skill: starrk Hax: starrk. The only thing going for ulquiorra in the hax department is mediocre regeneration which cant heal his organs which is almost pointless because his heart and brain literally reside in the biggest targets of ulquiorras body(aside from his wings), his upper body and his head. Starrk can make weapons out of his soul. Its not the mist op hax or anywhere near op, but its more than what ulquiorra has. Ap: starrk Dc: ulquiorra
How does IQ go to a being that doesn't even understand his own existence let alone the existence or emotion of others? His aspect of death was nothingness so how would he have a high IQ? IQ would go to the person who is able to figure out the ability of all four captains he was facing.
Nope, Starrk wins. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
No when ulqiora transformed his rank went away, he had become stronger than stark, but it would be a high diff match, my opinion anyway, bliev wtever pleases u
Cap. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention. 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon WOW that's some dedication there💀👏respect, bliev wat u want n I'll bliev what I want I bliev that ulqiora was stronger when he transformed n that if he showed it to Aizen he would hav been ranked in 1,but he does have less drip
Ulquiorra was never shown severely durable. The only people he deflected with no injuries r shikai ichigo 6th espada and uryu. All of which r fodder to starrk
@fanboy7181 attacks rapidly. Ulquiorra has high speed regen, not instant regen, he didnt regenerate his atm nor his eye instantly when both were removed. High rate attacks can kill him
@@fanboy7181 shunsui was a lot stronger than ichigo during this time in the arc+ it's stated in the databook that starrk never took the fight seriously until his LAST confrontation with shunsui.
@@lpop7978 no he doesn't. Power/Combat: Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon. Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills. Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close. Starrk is better in CQC. _____________________________________ Speed: Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts. The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power. Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level. _____________________________________ Durability: Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there. With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot). I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor. _____________________________________ Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments: 1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too? 2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra." So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol. 3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure." That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows. 4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most." Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel. 5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be." This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version). _____________________________________ The Final Verdict: Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty. The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards. Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation. Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Starrk is such an underrated villian.
(Bitches still telling me how he isn't a villain even after an year😭)
Wouldnt even consider him a villain, hes such a cool guy idc
He's no Villain.
@@devisriroshankandimalla7605 Aren't espadas considered to be a villian group?
@@North_- yes but Stark wasn't into fighting like other 9 Espadas he even said to Kyoraku that we shouldn't fight
@@North_- But he never acted as a Villain.
"Sorry but I am number one" - Tony starrk 😂🛐
Tony 🗿
@@Smeker__ lol 🤣
"Segunda etapa" - ulquiorra
@@Candyshopowner toma um pau do starkk rlx kkkkk
"Shining bright for everyone"
Starrk deserves more love bro
Finally someone who understands
Nah man ulqui second resurrection takes it
Cap, Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
Here's how:-
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too?
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon bro chill
@@SpiritedFalcon Nobody is taking the time out of their day to read this you weeb. I’m amazed you wasted your time typing that up
@@SpiritedFalconno ulquiorra stronger
@RibbYT
1. I dont debate bleach anymore, so I'm not gonna read any further reply of yours nor reply after this.
2. Dont bother engaging in a debate if your entire argument is "nO UlQuIoRrA sTrOnGEr." There is 0 evidence for that claim.
Anyways, muted. Bye.
Don't forget that Ulqiuorra got a buff from being in Hueco Mundo so his attacks were more potent, the top 3 Espada were in Fake Karakura Town which had next to no reishi in the air. Makes it easy to stand in the air and fly around but you power is a little lower I imagine.
Considering that aizen didn't know about Ulquiorra's second form the ranking was wrong, Ulquiorra would be at 1 and Starrk at 2.
That's just Ulquiorra assuming aizen didn't know about his R2 there's no confirmation about it whatsoever and honestly it's very unlikely for aizen to not know everything that happens with the espada's
Aizen knew about it and it was created to combat the vasto lorde form which no diffs all the espada and is on par with base aizen
@@dragonxd3975 So you're saying that Harribel is superior to Ulquiorra? Oh hell nah.
@@dragonxd3975 By your logic Harribel would be stronger than Ulquiorra and we all know that isn't true
Whether he knew or not read the novels. Ulquiorra Is literally the reincarnation of the strongest hollow species to ever exist. Ishida described his spiritual pressure as a "ocean of reatsu, an ocean above the sky. Alien like spiritual pressure?" Cmon lol. You think Ulquiorra would have lost to a slice on his hollow hole? With his regen? 🤡
Ulquiorra was stronger. Compare Ichigo to the people Starrk fought (Shunsui and Vizards) and then compare Ichigo to Ulquiorra. Ichigo was on par with Gotei 13 captains and yet Ulquiorra was many times stronger than him. Starrk lost basically to only Shunsui since Vizards didn't really do much. Even if Shunsui was stronger than Ichigo at the moment he definitely wasn't as strong as Ulquiorra. Also, if you think about it, Ulquiorra is the perfect representation of a hollow, he was cold, didn't express emotion as if he was literally "hollow" inside. Starrk was an awesome character and I'm really sad we didn't see more of him but Ulquiorra was made to be the strongest hollow. No hax, no weird abilities, just straight up overwhelming power.
Nope. Don't underestimate Vizards too much, bc they were average captain or lieutenant level 100 years ago, so they have gotten a lot stronger. Plus Hollow mask boosts them, making Vizards definitely stronger than Ichigo hollowfied mask + Bankai form before Ulquiorra fight. Love and Rose were able to keep up with Starrk, while Ichigo was struggling in battle vs base Ulquiorra.
You kinda glazing rn not gonna lie@@agent-Parker
How?
Strength: Starrk
Hax: Starrk
Hey, do you think TYBW characters like Haribel, Nel, and Grimmjow can beat characters like Starrk and Ulquiorra.
they cant
No, they didn't have any evolution of their powers or abilities, Ulquiorra or Stark would still win against any Espada that appeared in TYBW.
I dont think Harribel and Nelliel are the type to train and get stronger only grimmjow has that ambition
@@sjdkdkrmdirkfkdm7683True, Grimmjow wants to be a King, so he is the type to get stronger.
@@samucs2697 Bro, Grimmjow had so much evolution in TYBW.
Iq may also go to starrk. While ulqiorra was smarter than grimmjow, grimmjow is grimmjow.
debatable yeah but imo it still goes to ulquiorra
IQ goes to Ulquiorra, but BIQ goes to starrk.
Ulquiorra takes it bro , with speed or else perfect 👍
Nope, Starrk takes it.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too?
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon like hell if a human could read this
@@aneeshvarma6964 it would take like 1-2 mins...
@@SpiritedFalcon for a lazy person like a whole eternity
@@aneeshvarma6964 true, lol.
W 🔥
W🔥
The IQ goes to Starrk.
Can you do Anniversary Aizen vs Prime Soul King ?
yes
@@Smeker__ bro you're just a GOAT
@@DeimosCodeines bruh, PSK has miracle and visionary, basically the equivalent of Ho-Gyo-Ku. And he is immortal as well. And he has other abilities like Almighty, X-Axis etc.
@@DeimosCodeines You can't even scale. Anni Aizen is 9 layers above boundless, so is PSK. He can evolve immeasurable times, and each time get 10 times stronger like Aizen, making him 9 layers above boundless as well.
@@DeimosCodeines psk has the hogyoku as well, which makes aizens fodder
Starrk is my favourite character, but I should admit that he only fires cero, whereas Ulquiorra has many techniques
If Starrk truly went all out, he would've been one of the strongest characters overall
W edit + fax
Best edit on this channel in my personal opinion, music fitting their movements and those shakes.
Also fax
thanks
@@Smeker__ song name?
@BLASTER X GAMER I love you
Nice
The Winner is a W but something is actually wrong, like the durabilty and the str thing. But W edit
Thr Espadas who fought in Karakura town were not at their full potential coz of reishi Hueco Mundo is full of reishi whereas Fake Karakura wasn't made of reishi
Clyde debunked that nice try tho
@🃏Chewstié 🃏 he did but carry on
This is the first time I ever heard anything about them being nerfed
@@Bambietta_is_better Nope, Clyde didn't debunk anything.
Lving world has less concentrated reishi than SS/HM. Uryuu said spiritual beings are stronger in reishi concentrated areas. Chad also stated that he felt as if he was getting stronger in HM.
Clyde literally hides people from his comments, when they try to provide an argument.
Also, Unohana is mid.
@@SpiritedFalcon yet she is the second strongest captain behind Yamamoto
Finnaly someone knows starrks true strength and isn't espada no.1 for nothing
He lost in strength 😑😑😑
@@__Emptiness__ lol
Ulquiorra fought Ichigo not Kyorako Shinsui who is 10 times stronger than Ichigo at that time.
If he use his shadow technique in Hueco Mundo he will wipe the floor with Ulquiorra so easily.
@@ken-14san94 kage oni is op af
@@ken-14san94 vasto lorde slaps shunsui, he thought he had to bankai just by looking at starkk, and aizen wanted ichigo to master the vasto lorde so he would beat him,
Reyatsu ulquorra and win but W vid
starrk has more reiatsu
@@Smeker__ that if we count ulquorra first resurrection but second have better stats and it's actually debateble on speed too because Whit second resurrection ulquorra is the strongest Espada, excluse tybw grimjow and hell granz
@🃏 chewié 🃏 I know that but unohana said that Ichigo bankai after the fight was strong as an a captain top ranked by strenght with only 50% of him reyatsu and vasto Lord is stronger than that Ichigo after the fight
Finally Someone Who's Spittin Fax 🙌
Starrk is cool and all, even I like him but fellas, ulqiorra takes it. He just takes it and ability and reiatsu goes to ulqiorra
Ulquiorra the only espada to gain 2nd release if not for that yes stark but by far everyone thought ulquirroa was the strongest even before finding out the rankings
Ulqiorra wins cause it is stated in databook that aizen knew he has 2 forms so he was the the only two of one other is yammy who will make ichigo go on special howlified form and that super massive attack of his can bast of a planet very easily and writer of bleach wanted a special movie for the first and the animation studio did it the fight in which ulqiorra actually did damage to vastloid ichigo and that's how the writter wanted this fight to happen. A youtuber explained it. Please watch itth-cam.com/video/oR7ML6P2D8M/w-d-xo.html
Nope, Starrk is stronger. Also, the TH-camr you're referring to, is a trash scaler. I made a comment, which debunked his video, and as a result, he deleted my comment. This has happened to multiple people BTW.
Anyways:-
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
When the only two of your fav espada battle......
Imagine Stark had a second release
My last edit was just about ulquiorra vs starrk lol gave the one to starrk
Well this is huge cap. Who is the only espada to have 2 resurrections? Ulquiorra takes it mid diff.
2 resurrection ≠ Automatic win.
Is Bankai Toshiro stronger than Yamamoto, because he's in Bankai, but not Yamamoto, obviously not.
Furthermore:-
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He can also shoot a 1000 ceros at an instant, which should mathematically rival the power of 3 CO, and he also has cero matralleta. 5/50+ of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15~ wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can easily overpower with his 1000 cero attack, since 1000 ceros rival the power of 3 CO). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Imo ulqiorra wins
Nope
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too?
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
ulquiorra wins against all the espada
Wrong, he loses to Starrk.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Nah he is number one for a reason he is the strongest
Ulquiorra would win because He was ranked they knew about the First resurrection not about the second Ulquiorra wins high diff
Nope, he loses high diff.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
There is no way starrk can even kill Ulquiorra because of his durability
Starrk would lose for sure. Segunda etapa is just way too powerful
Ulqiora’s arrow that he shot on Ichigo hollow no diffs stark
The Lanza is innacurate (stated verbatim), and Starrk is just as fast as Ulquiorra, he can easily dodge them.
Starrk is better in CQC, so Ulquiorra's lanza isn't even helping as a close range weapon.
Nonsense Uleqiurra has a second release form it took Ichigo to went to full hollowfication to beat him and that form of ichigo is a bove all captains
Bad take.
Having a 2nd release, doesn't automatically mean you're the strongest. Is Bankai Byakuya stronger than Shikai Yamamoto (because he's using his bankai, unlike Yama)? No, he isn't.
Moreover, VL Ichigo isn't above all captains, some of the top tier captains do in fact beat him. Furthermore, Vasto Lorde Ichigo wasn't the bare minimum power required to beat Ulquiorra, considering VL stomped Ulquiorra.
Starrk is stronger.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Stark is really good but I think Ulquiorra is stronger since he didn't show his second release to aizen yet which could change alot
Cap.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
faxx
learn to pay attention in the anime ulquiorra said that there are 3 ESPADAS stronger than him
It's also stated in the databook that Yammy has the most power out of them all.
Would u please do Nel TYBW vs Grimmjow TYBW?
I'd say Ulquiorra>Starrk unless you believe base form Starrk 10x>Ulquiorra base form
W
Music?
Day 2 of asking for ichigo vs saitama wjth proof
Ichigo is multi-universal to multiversal (ima say multi-universal as their is actual proof) saitama is multi galaxy but ichigo is 6d with his mugetsu and beyond bankai form
Do Grimmjow vs Gojo please
Starrk ain't even a villain he just wanted frends
Everything goes to Ulquiorra
Stark was a disappointment as number 1 espada
Wrong
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too?
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon Damn!!
ok bro I get it thanks for this🔥❤️
But if you show the fight between Ichigo and Ulquiorra and Stark vs Shunsui
Any people on this planet will say Ulquiorra is strongest
@@rahulkulk745 yeah, out of context, Ulquiorra does seem stronger.
@@SpiritedFalcon Uryu in the HM arc stated that Hollows and Arrancar are many times stronger in Hueco compared to the living world or the SS in the official translation, and in fan translations he said they’re on another level compared to the other realms.
In both he said that even hollows that look weak could be dangerous to them, and the Arrancar especially are the most dangerous with their amps
Starrk underrated but Ulqiorra strongest espada
The data books straight up say he's not and Ulquiorra says he's not.
Coyote stark💯🔥
Name the music
I need it too
Can you do one of these?
1. Ginjo VS Tengen
2. Tsukishima VS Rengoku
Ginjo vs tengen? Ginjo solo verse no diff
Even the weakest lieutenant solos the verse low diff
Tough one because aizen had more faith and trust in ulquiorra than all of the espada and he was created for the soul purpose of manifesting the vasto lorde form of white (zangetsu) so ichigo would be strong enough to defeat aizen
I think Aizen trusted Ulquiorra because of his personality and loyalty
It was moreso because of his loyalty, and cold blooded personality. Ulquiorra was gonna show Ichigo the path of despair and torment him, which wasn't gonna happen with the other Espada (maybe except for Halibel), due to their characters.
can you do tsukishima vs vegeta + book of the ends manipulation?
Can you do community post who is stronger madara or aizen
I think Strength goes to Starrk and Speed goes to Ulquiorra and Abilities goes to both Starrk and Ulquiorra. And I'm not sure about Hax .
Team ulquiorra🔥
I think ulquiora win
Nah, bro.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too?
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon thanks bro 😅
@@SpiritedFalconnah ulquiorra clearly wins
@vinx-zn4hc I don't debate Bleach anymore, and also, please give an argument that actually supports your claim. Starrk's feats were better.
@@SpiritedFalcon his feats where not better, his strongest attacks couldn't kill shunshui or severely hurt the captains , when you say feats he only has speed and high reiatsu nothing else and ulquiorra matches that in his 2nd ressurection
Facts!
Starrk is not villain he is innocent
Starrk lacked the most important aspects of battle. He has zero drive, zero confidence and his depression is crippling.
^^ this
Yo, stark my fav espada
Power: Ulquiorra
Combat: Starrk
Speed: Both
Durability: Ulquiorra
Abilities: Starrk
IQ: Ulquiorra
BIQ: Starrk
The Verdict: Starrk wins, with high/extreme difficulty.
He’s onto something ❌
He’s on something ✅
Nada. 2nd resurrection ulq>.
Starrk Los Lobos >
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG (which he can use to shoot 1000 ceros at once), and if combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too?
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (maybe except for Shikai Ukitake) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love), and serious got against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit, it'd do major damage, and he has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
ulquiorra >
Cap, Starrk >.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Uliquirra absolutely slaps Stark.
Nope, Starrk > Ulquiorra.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon your whole essay is factual wrong. And copying this essay over and over again to people doesn't make your statement true at all.
@@yeager1234 If it's "factually wrong", then why don't you actually refute it? Otherwise, it's a baseless statement.
I'm only copy pasting, to save me the time to not have to re-write the same thing over and over again, and by your own logic, saying "Ulquiorra slaps Starrk", doesn't make it true, you didn't even provide any evidence for that claim, it's baseless.
@@yeager1234 Lmfao true this kid is waffling
Its not one sided
Fax
Sometimes people are stupid I’ve seen people say ulquiora beats stark
Team ulquiorra wins
Nope, I think Ulquiorra is cooler, but he loses to Starrk.
Power: Ulquiorra
Combat: Starrk
Speed: Both
Durability: Ulquiorra
Intelligence: Starrk
Hax/Versatility: Starrk
Here's more info:-
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Старк спидблиц делает, улька в базе отлетает, во второй форме также, и в 3) старк дал хороший отпор Сунсую и Сунсуй на момент финал арки в соло всю эспаду сливает
И поэтому у Улькиоры пропадает номер во втом рессе,что ставит его выше Ями что>Вся Эспада
People who think Ulquiorra is extremely superior to Starrk need to remember that Ulquiorra was still number 4. Even though Ulquiorra has a second release his base state and resurrection are very inferior to Starrk’s. It is only a debate because we don’t know just how much of a booster the second release gives Ulquiorra which is why it can even be discussed. Other than that Starrk mops the floor with first release Ulquiorra
Ulquiorra no diffs stark this isn't a debate
I think ulquiorra would win because he never showed his mercieldrago to anyone including Aizen hence why he is only the number 4 and not 1
You forget that principal main ability of Starrk is throw Ceros, for any other this is an Special Ability, and Yammy Reiatsu, Cero, Physical>>>>>>Starrk and Ulquiorra.
Starrk was Arrancar before Aizen trnasfrom him, Ulquiorra wasn't.
Starrk Reiatsu destroyed the hollows around him due the quantity, Ulquiorra doesnt show anything better, he is arrancar less time than Starrk.
And Yammy is 0, greater Reiatsu, greater attacks, greater resistance, greater Cero. So is the same rank.
Remember the Ulquorra transformations scenes, they both are nothing compared to 0, 1, 2 and 3 Espadas, these ones created a huge Reiatsu visible by eye... Bruh.
Ulquiorra negs
Nah.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
I am a ulquiorra fanboy- but for ulqy to even touch starrk, ulqy needs: ressurection to beat base starrk, and segunda etapa, maybe even BBS Tercera etapa for starrks ressurection.
Base stark > base Uluqiora
Segubda etapa > every single Espada
Yammy and Uluqiora are different compared to the rest of them and don't even give me that numbers bullshit if I should ask anyone who wins btw harribel and Uluqiora it'll be Uluqiora but harribel out ranks him Segubda etapa doesn't even have a number and it kept up with vastolorde ichigo and tanked a cero from it point blank
After shunsui started his shikai game it was over for stark
Strengh: Uluqiora
Speed: Uluqiora ( I don't know how someone that perception blitz ichigo without a sonido is slower than someone that used a sonido to steal orihinme but ok)
Iq/biq:
Reiatsu: at base till red it's stark since he is number 1 but Segubda etapa demolishes with it's alien type reiatsu
Skill:
Durability: Uluqiora
Hax: Uluqiora
Ap/dc: Uluqiora
Segunda etapa doesnt beat every espafa. Yammy in the databooks is confirmed stronger than ulquiorra.
The difference in power between release starrk and release ulquiorra is too masice to say a srcond release would change that.
Perception blitzing ichigo is only an impressive feat if ichigo has the higher tiers of reaction speed, which he has never shown he has. Ulquiorra was already blitzing ichigo in 1st release, who is confirmed massively weaker than starrk, so that implies ichigos REACTION speed isnt that fast compared to the upper tier captains.
Ulquiorra wasnt keeping up with vl ichigo. Vl ichigo perception blitz him twice in the fight and was tossing him around.
Ulquiorra didnt tank vl ichigos rmcero point blank. He was basically dead already because of his organs but his regen allowed him to stand one last time. Thats all.
Hallibel didnt have a number in release either. It means nothing to ulquiorra. All espadas lose the tattoos in their release but yammy keeps his because he is the only regular release to move up in rank.
Strength can be debated
Speed goes to ulquiorra
Iq biq goes to starrk
Rieatsu goes to starrk as well. His alien type rieatsu is debunked due to tge fact that not even characters far above ulquiorra such as base aizen has shown that lvl of feat, but we lnow base aizen has far higher rieatsu than ulquiorra. Kubo does these hype lvl feats in other areas as well such as when ichigos 1st getsuga tenshou looks larger in scale than his later getsuga tenshous. As well as the fact that ulquiorra was actively flexing his rieatsu while the other espadas weren't
Skill: starrk
Hax: starrk. The only thing going for ulquiorra in the hax department is mediocre regeneration which cant heal his organs which is almost pointless because his heart and brain literally reside in the biggest targets of ulquiorras body(aside from his wings), his upper body and his head. Starrk can make weapons out of his soul. Its not the mist op hax or anywhere near op, but its more than what ulquiorra has.
Ap: starrk
Dc: ulquiorra
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How does IQ go to a being that doesn't even understand his own existence let alone the existence or emotion of others? His aspect of death was nothingness so how would he have a high IQ? IQ would go to the person who is able to figure out the ability of all four captains he was facing.
Y'all don't know shi about Starrk man had to split in two to not kill everything that gets near him😭
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Nope, Starrk wins.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
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No when ulqiora transformed his rank went away, he had become stronger than stark, but it would be a high diff match, my opinion anyway, bliev wtever pleases u
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Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni, and was aimed at the life spot of all hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there, had he been hit it in the same spot by an amplified strike.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resurreccion. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's beyond the ranking system too? No, nether of them are, it's purely aesthetic, it has no relevance or mention.
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling dense. IIRC, Chad even mentioned that the heavy spiritual pressure stopped, when Ulquiorra was killed. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. There's also the fact that it came frok Uryuu, who isn't even base Yammy level. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than most of the captains), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower/cancel them out, with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
@@SpiritedFalcon WOW that's some dedication there💀👏respect, bliev wat u want n I'll bliev what I want I bliev that ulqiora was stronger when he transformed n that if he showed it to Aizen he would hav been ranked in 1,but he does have less drip
@@thetop0001 k, I think Ulquiorra is cooler, but Starrk is stronger. Anyways, have a good day.
@@SpiritedFalcon haha lol I think the opposite I think Clark is cooler but ulqiora stronger, have a God day as well
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Debatable ngl
Yeah, I think Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
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Nope
Ulquiorra also gets reiatsu as rain poured in his release
Ulquiorra was never shown severely durable. The only people he deflected with no injuries r shikai ichigo 6th espada and uryu. All of which r fodder to starrk
@@ghhbpolo what can starrk even do against Ulquiorra regeneration
@fanboy7181 attacks rapidly. Ulquiorra has high speed regen, not instant regen, he didnt regenerate his atm nor his eye instantly when both were removed. High rate attacks can kill him
@@ghhbpolo kyoraku got hit with a cero bullet and survived Starrk is getting cooked by Ulquiorra
@@fanboy7181 shunsui was a lot stronger than ichigo during this time in the arc+ it's stated in the databook that starrk never took the fight seriously until his LAST confrontation with shunsui.
Did u just give speed to starkk!!!!?
Yeah, he did. Your point?
Stark should take everything 🤡
@@SpiritedFalcon ulquiorra takes almost everything
@@lpop7978 no he doesn't.
Power/Combat:
Ulquiorra's CO tore Ichigo's mask and destroyed 60%~70% of his bankai clothing, in R1, it would most likely one shot in R2. LDR is a country+ level attack, and is superior to CO, and he can spam it. Although, it is inaccurate (stated by himself), but can be used as a close range weapon.
Starrk can also fire ceros faster using his guns, he doesn't have to charge them. He can also shoot CO (Ulquiorra said all Espadas can in their released state, and it is supported by the DB). He has Cero: MG, and can shoot 1000 ceros at once. If Cero Metralleta combined with CO, or maybe even GRC, it'd be extremely powerful. 5 of his wolves, absolutely obliterated (masked shikai) Rose and Love, and he still had *MANY* of them in his disposal, 10-15 wolves would've easily killed them. He can also summon fire swords, which he used against Shunsui, and pushed him in a CQC fight (despite the fact that he was "exhausted" from constantly fighting, got back stabbed and was mentally wounded). He reacted/dodged multiple sneak attacks during the fight, and was quickly able to recognize Shunsui's and Ukitake's their Shikai abilies, which proves good that he has good anylitcal skills.
Raw power goes to Ulquiorra, though Starrk is close.
Starrk is better in CQC.
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Speed:
Ulquiorra was on the verge of blitzing masked bankai Ichigo in R1, he threw 2 Lanzas so fast that Ichigo couldn't react to him throwing 2, which is why he caught off guard after seeing the second one. Starrk has a long Sonido, he arguably traveled a city block level area in 1 sonido, and proceeded to blitz bankai Ichigo along with Kenpachi (weakened), the *same* Ichigo could react to base Ulquiorra. Starrk would do the same in resureccione to masked bankai Ichigo, considering they'd both getting a bankai sized boosts.
The main issue is that, Ulquiorra's speed in R2 is hard to identify, considering his only feat is blitzing a weakened and 40%~ power bankai Ichigo, and then proceeding to get blitz by VL Ichigo. Resureccione is generally 5×-10× times boost, his R2 is most likely a 5× or maybe even lower boost from R1, there aren't many feats to warrant a large boost, there's also the fact that he probably had only used it 1-2 times (since no one has seen it, and no except him or maybe Aizen, knows about it), prior to fighting Ichigo. He also stated that he couldn't control the Lanza properly, meaning he hadn't yet mastered the power.
Since he's most likely getting a 5× or lower boost from R1, and doesn't really have any major speed feats, the best we could say is that he's even with Starrk or around his level.
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Durability:
Base Ulquiorra was deflecting bankai Ichigo's GT, and only got a minor cut from him. His spiritual energy, negated a fully powered GT from masked bankai Ichigo, in R1. However, Starrk canonically has more spiritual energy than Ulquiorra, so he can negate it too, in fact, all of the top 3 Espada can negate it. Starrk tanked multiple physically attacks from the Shikai vizards, and took a point-black fire blast from masked shikai Love, taking no damage. Now before you mentioned that he died from 2 sword cuts, from Shikai Shunsui; keep in mind that it was amplified by Iro Oni- to a place described as life ending for all Hollows, meaning even Ulquiorra would've died there.
With that being said, Ulquiorra does a have healing factor though, a fast one at that. He has shown to quickly regenerate limbs and slashes, though he can't regenerate vital organs/his brain. He got 1 shot by VL Ichigos cero, but was able to temporarily survive and regenerate himself, in order to cut his horn (an obvious weak spot).
I'd Ulquiorra wins in this category, hard to say who's more durable, but Ulquiorra takes it, due to the healing factor.
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Now as for some of the "baseless" arguments:
1. "Ulquiorra loses his number in R2." Halibel does too, in her resureccione. So does that mean that she's an "outlier" Espada, who's "beyond the ranking" system too?
2. "Yammy respects Ulquiorra."
So calling someone trash, is respecting them? Lol.
3. "Alien-like/ocean-like spiritual pressure."
That's a property of the spiritual energy, in other words how it *feels* like. Similar to how Halibel describes Ichigos spiritual pressure "dark" and how it felt "as if 2 espadas were fighting". Aizen too had immense spiritual pressure, he could easily solo all of the Espada, yet no one ever mentioned about his spirit pressure feeling alien-like/as dense as an ocean. Won't disregard the fact thats it was stated to be strong and enourmous, but using the argument that his spiritual pressure felt different, doesn't really say anything. Starrk's spiritual pressure killed hollows around him as well, but those were mostly just weak hollows.
4. "Aizen sends him on missions/trusts him the most."
Thats simply cuz he's the most cooperative and loyal, and his emotionless personality, would prevent him from neglecting Aizen's orders. It's also the reason he was chosen to fight Ichigo, and develop his inner hollow. He was gonna show him the path of "true despair", and completely torment him. That's out of character for Starrk, Barragan and Halibel.
5. "Kubo said that the Hellverse opening sequence, is how he imagined/wanted it to be."
This is simply wrong; neither did Kubo say he wanted the fight to go that way, or that the hellverse opening sequence is the actual canon version. If he did, then pull up the statement. Otherwise I'm sticking with the Manga (the OG canon version).
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The Final Verdict:
Starrk takes it with high/extreme difficulty.
The opponents he fought, were no push-overs, they were all (MAYBE except for Shikai Ukitake, due to his illness) individually stronger than (Post-Grimmjow fight) masked bankai Ichigo. 2 of them with their Shikai, could fight Shikai Yamamoto. Starrk himself complemented masked Shikai Love (Rose scales to Love BTW), and got serious against him, then proceeded to destroy the 2 masked shikai vizards.
Ichigo not being taken seriously by a canonically weaker Espada (R1 Ulquiorra), and trash on by him, proves that he wasn't at the level of those vizards/captains. Shunsui had beaten Starrk through the help he had gotten, and his performance against Starrk, puts him above the masked bankai Ichigo, Ulquiorra beat. Also, saying that Ulquiorra fought and scales to Vasto lorde Ichigo (who's obviously way stronger than the captains, excluding Yamamoto), is blatantly false. Ulquiorra got curb stomped by VL Ichigo, where as Starrk lost to the captains high diff. Shunsui had to play dead, and sneak behind Starrk in order to stab him, while he was distracted (prior to that, Starrk was unharmed). This wouldn't have been possible in a 1v1 situation.
Ulquiorra would have trouble hitting Starrk due to his speed, and given how he can't probably control the LDR, and CO takes longer to charge (which Starrk can overpower with his CO, shoot them faster, and can hypothetically fire them in Metralleta form). Starrk outclasses him in CQC, his wolves are also very powerful, fast and can attack from multiple direction, they also reform when destroyed. He might have the chance to overpower his durability, and overwhelm his regeneration, *if* he relentlessly unleashes wolves at Ulquiorra and strikes with the fire swords. Though it is gonna be hard. If he takes a hit from LDR, it'd do major damage, has to try his best to *NOT* let his guard down and give it his all.
Starrk has the fastest Sonido out of all the Espada
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