BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Movie Review **SPOILER ALERT**

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  • Gay homosexuals Nick and Joseph spoil Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - a 2022 American superhero film directed by Ryan Coogler.
    Premise: The leaders of the kingdom of Wakanda fight to protect their nation from invading forces in the wake of King T'Challa's death, while a new threat emerges from the hidden undersea nation of Tālocān ruled by Namor.
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    Cast:
    Letitia Wright as Shuri
    Lupita Nyong'o as Nakia
    Danai Gurira as Okoye
    Winston Duke as M'Baku
    Dominique Thorne as Riri Williams / Ironheart
    Florence Kasumba as Ayo
    Michaela Coel as Aneka
    Tenoch Huerta as Namor
    Martin Freeman as Everett K. Ross
    Angela Bassett as Ramonda
    Cinematography by Autumn Durald Arkapaw
    Edited by Michael P. Shawver, Kelley Dixon, and Jennifer Lame
    Music by Ludwig Göransson
    Keywords: ending explained, reaction video, trailer, Creed, Fruitvale Station, Marvel Studios, Walt Disney
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  • @chanceromero7314
    @chanceromero7314 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    “The better story would have been”
    “We can get into that”
    “Should I just go though my notes”
    Classic lines! Y’all literally got me through my depression last month 🙏🏼

  • @TheFreeBlackWomensLibrary
    @TheFreeBlackWomensLibrary ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I saw the film as the two warring tribes representing how Black folks and people of color fight against themselves when the real enemy is yte supremacy/capitalism. The costumes were stunning. Lupita was underused and they should not have killed the queen.
    Love you guys ♥️♥️

  • @staceehouston7124
    @staceehouston7124 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I would love to see a full movie of the underwater kingdom. That was so interesting and cool to watch!

    • @chellbell7899
      @chellbell7899 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Right that would be a good movie alone

  • @Djtwizz1981
    @Djtwizz1981 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The ancestral plain feeds off your energy which is why Kilmonger was brought forth

  • @charysmaalvarez8057
    @charysmaalvarez8057 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I actually think introducing T’Challa having a son also named T’Challa is how they addressed the re-casting without really
    re-casting. Which I think could be great because one of my biggest gripes with the first movie was that T’Challa as the black panther didn’t feel like a well thought out adaptation of the character from the comics. This offers the chance to have stories about prince T’Challa son of King T’Challa
    Also I like how this is movie interpreted the motif of hope and rebirth that the MCU movies in phase 4 have been doing

    • @edwinbetancourt7301
      @edwinbetancourt7301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly and it sets up perfectly for the future films when they introduce the X-Men and introduce Storm.

  • @WThomas
    @WThomas ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The opening Marvel Studios title card embedded with CB was breath talking and brought tears to my eyes, omg writing this now is starting to do the same. It was so well done and it was dead silent in my crowded theater, you could have heard a pin drop. Wow!!

    • @lrs1519
      @lrs1519 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I LOVED that. I loved the deliberate moments of silence in the beginning and the end. So appropriate and a chance for us to say goodbye to him.

    • @2120musiclover
      @2120musiclover ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @queenieis50
      @queenieis50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely, I was trying to hold back tears as well👍🏽😢

    • @Maggie-jk8lc
      @Maggie-jk8lc ปีที่แล้ว

      I unfortunately had the experience where the outside theater area was full of people about to see the Rocky Horror Picture Show and were super loud. I still teared up though.

    • @nhenry76
      @nhenry76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I sobbed 😭 like a baby

  • @kevindrake4529
    @kevindrake4529 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on this one! Really looking forward to Wakanda Forever!

  • @JoeDWhiteTalks
    @JoeDWhiteTalks ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You can tell you guys aren’t Marvel fans. Vibranium has already been used for nefarious purposes. Ultron’s body is made of vibranium. That’s one example.

  • @JW-vd4il
    @JW-vd4il ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Joseph & Nick, PLEASE cover Fruitvale Station! It's one I've heard is an excellent movie but I still can't bring myself to watch it due to the subject.
    Maybe if you guys "spoil" it, I'll be able to watch it, knowing more what to expect.
    (I do know it's based on real events which is one of the reasons it would be even more troubling to me.)
    Love you guys, and your cat, whether you take my requeat or not! 😸💞

  • @coolaideevens8678
    @coolaideevens8678 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Happy birthday guys . I remember I believe your both Scorpios . 🎉❤

  • @lkf8799
    @lkf8799 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Angela Bassett is gorgeous. I ❤️ her.
    The movie went in a really surprising direction. When Killmonger showed up in her vision quest it really surprised me. The villain was really cool and really surprised me. I think it could have been a little bit shorter but I really enjoyed it. The tributes to Chadwick were wonderful.

  • @OffWithHerHead1006
    @OffWithHerHead1006 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Julia Louis Dreyfus character has been established in Black Widow and in the MCU Disney+ series. I think adding her to this was a way go get things on track for the Thunderbolts (marvels answer to The Suicide Squad) which her character will be heavily in.

  • @Hauerization
    @Hauerization ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always interesting to hear your takes, even though Im not always onboard with your review-scores but your so nice I can never be upset. ;)

  • @rubypanterra.
    @rubypanterra. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, for the review.❤️ I'll go watch in theaters, but I won't dress up in cosplay for the occasion.

  • @carlosrobbins9178
    @carlosrobbins9178 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for giving the story straight-up, no chaser. I'll definitely see the movie!

  • @RueGrae
    @RueGrae ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nick's faces towards Joseph at 3:10 I'm so dead!!! 💀💀😂😂😂😂💀

  • @shanetaylor761
    @shanetaylor761 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One name Letitia Wright. I thought she did an amazing job. Angela Basset was fantastic but wright stole the show for me.

  • @quz908
    @quz908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know Nick is not wearing a t-shirt with Lola Falana on it! She is the goddess of goddesses. I see you Nick!💕

  • @ChantalLisette7
    @ChantalLisette7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a new subscriber and I’m loving your reviews. Really enjoy y’all’s style of reviews. Keep doing what you’re doing 💖💞

  • @americanpancakelive
    @americanpancakelive ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just want to know if when Julia Louis-Dreyfus' character appeared if they had the wonky Seinfeld bass line (?)

  • @newtongraphics_
    @newtongraphics_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    most underrated reviews on youtube

  • @shawnsmith816
    @shawnsmith816 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys look. Great. Happy birthday's btw. .

  • @FancyAlly
    @FancyAlly ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just saw the film today & I thought Namor and The Wakandans would make truce earlier in the film & go against the colonizers in the end. Maybe in the third film this could happen. I greatly enjoyed the film although I did cry at parts

    • @QueenNaestar
      @QueenNaestar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah! That's what I thought.

    • @mox9076
      @mox9076 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps they'll go against Dr Victor Von Doom. In the comics, he was actually the one that influenced them to fight against each other.

  • @nightangel3578
    @nightangel3578 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I watched the movie last night and really liked it. The inclusion of the Talokan and changing Namor's origin from that of the comics was a smart move. Personally, I never saw the Talokans as villains. Just people that wanted to be left alone at any cost. They already had to run before and refused to run again.
    Leticia Wright was the weakest part for me. I was really hoping that Michaela Coel or Danai Gurira would've been the new Black Panther, but I guess that wouldn't have made sense.
    As for T'Challa having a son, I think it has less to do with a male heir and more to do with the possibility of a union between Storm and T'Challa. That storyline could bring about more mutant characters and subgroups from the comics.

  • @Igwecala-xm3dg
    @Igwecala-xm3dg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People forget that the actual comic canon has T'Challa coming into adulthood without his father present, and his uncle, S'Yan, standing instead until he was ready to take his place.
    Toussaint/T'Challa of T'Challa can now follow a similar path in the MCU (travelling the world, drawing his education from the best the rest of rhe world has to offer and what he can pick up from his mother Nakia, and hopefully some time in Wakanda), while his aunt Shuri stands as Black Panther until he is ready (even though now there'd be a likely clear tension point with King M'Baku)

  • @edwardwilliams2438
    @edwardwilliams2438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the channel guys...the dynamic works so well. Has nobody not noticed how jacked and beautiful Ms. Basset is. Those shoulders are to die for. She has to be a Vampyre or an Eternal or something..cause she seems ageless. Add to the fact that she holds the narrative together with her performance. I really enjoyed the entire movie..regardless of what the nay sayers have to say. No Marvel movie will ever live up to any of the fan bases expectation. Consequently...I just pay my money and sit back and enjoy this fantasy world. After all, this is not real life..as most of geekdom seems to believe. Anyway...thanks for your reviews....and keep up the good work.

  • @shanetaylor761
    @shanetaylor761 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In a movie that was so female centric I don't really see a problem with a son being introduced to 1. Show t challa's legacy continues and 2. To have a placeholder for a potential new panther in the future. I never took out as him being the panther in the future if only because the marvel movies don't do huge timeskips normally so shuri will be the panther next movie as long as she stays popular. But passing on the mantle is an inevitable thing in comics.

  • @jentalksbooks
    @jentalksbooks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! I may check it out now. 🍿🥤📽💜

  • @rustenjohnson8050
    @rustenjohnson8050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great review. The review was better than the movie. Admittedly I had high expection as a huge Panther fan, almost since the characters inception back in the 60's. Back when little black kids didn't have any super heroes that looked like us. So there's that. Though I love and miss Chad Boseman, I strongly pushed for a recast of the Panther and this film reflected how the loss of Boseman and The Panther handicapped the film. So instead one loss we have two. I thought that Angela Bassett and Namor were the best things about the film. They made it worth seeing. Good job guys! Great review thank you!

  • @dramonmaster222
    @dramonmaster222 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just like Black Panther before it, Wakanda Forever is a character driven movie which is probably why you enjoyed it better.

  • @themodeltyra1517
    @themodeltyra1517 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't understand why it's a bad thing to stick with the continuity of the comics. If there's no male heir (T'Challa) then there's no female queen (Storm... From the X-men) their wedding was kind of a big deal in the comics. I don't like the idea of a T'Challa Jr, but it has nothing to do with not being able to have a female queen but more so about telling the story of the T'Challa, the Black Panther which is why we were here in the first place, for his story.

    • @nhenry76
      @nhenry76 ปีที่แล้ว

      THANK YOU.. T'Challa has so much more stories to tell, we needed T Jr.!! Nothing against Shuri...they did a great job

  • @OscarPerez-mm7xb
    @OscarPerez-mm7xb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yea Nick! Robert John Burke was great in Thinner! Very underrated Stephen King film

  • @mm-jy5lj
    @mm-jy5lj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing that kept bothering me was.. How can someone create a cobra out detector, without having vibranium to test it on? SMH. Other than that, the best thing about this movie was Namor.

  • @veganpeace7890
    @veganpeace7890 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not a huge Marvel fan myself, but I really, really enjoyed the first Black Panther and I can't wait for this one!!

  • @growingheart8039
    @growingheart8039 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! 🌞
    🐡🐟🐠🫐🍓🍇

  • @susiebaka3388
    @susiebaka3388 ปีที่แล้ว

    they named this movie "wakanda forever" just so they could rock the "wu tang forever" knock off t shirt

  • @gayhomosexuallll
    @gayhomosexuallll ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just got home from the movie. I brought tissues because I knew I’d need them! I was so into it until queen Ramonda…I have no idea why they did that. It went left for me from there. Amazing performances all around! Tenoch is 😍🔥🔥🔥. I’m Maya from Guatemala and I loved the representation. I feel like Letitia isn’t a great lead. Joseph, would you consider giving a review as a short once you see it?

    • @fishjellyfilmreviews
      @fishjellyfilmreviews  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’ll definitely talk about it on the podcast once I see it.

    • @evitagiron
      @evitagiron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I personally don’t think Angela Bassett as an actress wanted to be apart of the sequel. I feel like A list actors do this like Harrison Ford in the Star Ward series when his son kills him.

  • @rubypanterra.
    @rubypanterra. ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excited for your take 👑

  • @gamerdrops
    @gamerdrops ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would it have been better to wait longer and recast Black Panther? Not sure myself...

  • @TechnicJunglist
    @TechnicJunglist ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks guys. I'll be taking my mom. She's a marvel fiend. I was hoping we'd get a Dr. Doom, the big bad behind the scenes reference, but with the heavy loss of Chadwick I can see why that wasn't the angle. Angela as always is strikingly beautiful so overall I've been looking forward to this one.

  • @billy32burno
    @billy32burno ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The kid is for representation for the future and for lil black boys and men who looked at the king of wakanda as a good image

    • @js7dragon
      @js7dragon ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They can’t look to Shuri for the same inspiration?

    • @giiavvana
      @giiavvana ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@js7dragon They can- Shuri is there also for black girls. The son is obviously there to bait a sequel where I’m sure his character will play a bigger role.

    • @billy32burno
      @billy32burno ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@js7dragon absolutely but unless your a black man in these times u would not understand

    • @davincibarnette
      @davincibarnette ปีที่แล้ว

      The kid is another fatherless child. They should have recast the character.

    • @BB-ed4om
      @BB-ed4om ปีที่แล้ว

      Representation is about who you are as a human being. I can look just like someone on screen, or have the same religion or sexuality as them, but If I don’t relate to them in any way except superficially, it means nothing.

  • @offramp128
    @offramp128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the spoiler reviews 😀

  • @2120musiclover
    @2120musiclover ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was soooo fucking dope!!!!

  • @clara7920
    @clara7920 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys must review the film: Piggy and an excellent old film called a History of Violence with Viggio Mortinson

    • @fishjellyfilmreviews
      @fishjellyfilmreviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, we've seen both. They would make great selections for the podcast.

  • @janlet627
    @janlet627 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't Killmonger die from a stab wound? So, how did Shuri take a spear to the gut (with no blood) and keep fighting?

    • @lrs1519
      @lrs1519 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it’s bc she implanted some of the heart shape herb into the suit. Once she got up the wound closed up.

  • @deelewis8061
    @deelewis8061 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @deelewis8061
    @deelewis8061 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved it. CB death put a strain on the storyline. I loved it

  • @Ramilleestacio
    @Ramilleestacio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting bro

  • @waynethompson1115
    @waynethompson1115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll wait for this to come out on the Hallmark channel.

    • @QueenNaestar
      @QueenNaestar ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the Hallmark Channel 😀😀😀

    • @waynethompson1115
      @waynethompson1115 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@QueenNaestar yea, yer probably right,,TNT most likely

  • @offramp128
    @offramp128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that Ms. Lola Falana on yourt-shirt?

  • @brandonquiles9441
    @brandonquiles9441 ปีที่แล้ว

    Completely agree with Lupita/Nakia not having enough to do and I also hated the midknight look!

  • @avd831
    @avd831 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Saw This Movie At Midnight Showing And It Was Amazing !

  • @nhenry76
    @nhenry76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Julia shows up ....
    Spoiler at the end of the Falcon and Winter Soldier series.. it's a major Eastet egg that she's in this.. not just a random comic relief.
    Also, why didn't you guys just wait until Joseph saw the movie to film this review? Again, you don't have to be 1st to post videos, it's not entertaining when only Nick has seen the movie and this is a BIG one to only give half a review.
    It was super emotional and they honored both T'Challa and Chadwick very well.

  • @herbsnterps5223
    @herbsnterps5223 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Way more hyped for your guy's review than the film if keeping it being real.

  • @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy
    @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This film was just okay. Was expecting more tbh.

  • @IAmSweetPea
    @IAmSweetPea ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel only half informed…….

  • @33hawkins
    @33hawkins ปีที่แล้ว

    Havent seen this yet but from all the hype it really seemed like they were gonna move forward with a female black panther and they certainly had the characters to take up that mantle. Hearing that theyre just gonna go back to the male black panther seems kinda like a step back tbh.

  • @indauroleal7953
    @indauroleal7953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find it funny that we are still depicting the aboriginal peoples, victims of genocide, as the bad guys

    • @nhenry76
      @nhenry76 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you watch the movie? They're not bad guys they're just defending their homeland against outside invaders

  • @carolineomidiji676
    @carolineomidiji676 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love marvel to the day I die way better visually than the first one i do agree!

  • @fetishmagic2419
    @fetishmagic2419 ปีที่แล้ว

    "the US and French delegates"??? 😩

  • @omarscarborough4274
    @omarscarborough4274 ปีที่แล้ว

    Val is Nick Fury's romantic interest in comics.

  • @sherv4651
    @sherv4651 ปีที่แล้ว

    The costumes were giving power rangers

  • @shawnsmith816
    @shawnsmith816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Curious are u guys watching American horror story

    • @fishjellyfilmreviews
      @fishjellyfilmreviews  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We started it.

    • @shawnsmith816
      @shawnsmith816 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fishjellyfilmreviews its so intriguing would love ya'll thoughts. Also that oh nice 11:20 🤣 don't know if it's genuine or sarcasm but hilarious.

  • @freesheep0
    @freesheep0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sounds boring, thanks for the heads up!

  • @trilbynhiss
    @trilbynhiss ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They have to be making Letitia Wright into the villain in future movies. If she makes it that far, she sounds like a difficult person to work with.

    • @shippendales8543
      @shippendales8543 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There haven't been any official reports about Letitia though.
      Letitia was also injured pretty terribly filming the movie too.
      From cast interviews all the cast seem to relate and work well together.
      I think Letitia was going through a lot at that point in time and she seems to be better now.

  • @Sleepnasti
    @Sleepnasti ปีที่แล้ว

    Shri is a stud

  • @henryardoin8513
    @henryardoin8513 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm on the fence about this one, Angela Bassett is badass, but she can't hold a candle to Tina Turner in beyond Thunderdome"!🏳️‍🌈😎🏳️‍🌈😎🏳️‍🌈😎🏳️‍🌈😎🏳️‍🌈😎🏳️‍🌈😎🏳️‍🌈😎🏳️‍🌈✌️

  • @lsimon343
    @lsimon343 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn RiRi Williams is no comparison to Robert Downey Jr. can’t they just have a man be a character that was always a man it’s just gonna be the end of that character and no one gives a crap about iron heart trust me and her shoot looks like an insect it’s just a mesh all around I guess strong black male characters or strong white male characters are not cool anymore Chadwick you are sure Lee sorely missed

  • @marymungleandmidge4080
    @marymungleandmidge4080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dreadful script, too long and worst of all it was boring.

  • @edwinbetancourt7301
    @edwinbetancourt7301 ปีที่แล้ว

    You aligned yourself with Michael B Jordan’s character? The one that attacked his gf in the first film? Lol okay

  • @robertwalker9670
    @robertwalker9670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should've just recasted T'challa period. This film emasculated black men greatly.

    • @Igwecala-xm3dg
      @Igwecala-xm3dg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      King M'Baku is there, and he's been the piece that Wakanda has been standing on since basically The Snap.
      Shuri will do her Black Panther stuff (still of the mind that Shuri and M'Baku get together), but the burdens of Wakanda will be carried by M'Baku and done so oroudly

  • @jeannajanowick1887
    @jeannajanowick1887 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn i was trying to be first

  • @edwinbetancourt7301
    @edwinbetancourt7301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think y’all two should’ve did your research or asked your fans about the connections of Julia and more to know there are some connections to future films.
    Clearly you aren’t comic book fans but it’ll help you give a better review rather than just stumbling on words trying to figure out what the heck is happening.

  • @BB-ed4om
    @BB-ed4om ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This one is a no for me. Chadwick Boseman is THE black panther. Disrespectful af - it hasn’t even been 5 years. Let us remember him, and stop pushing out content just to have something to do. Marvel is the worst lately.

    • @edwinbetancourt7301
      @edwinbetancourt7301 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol you are aware this character was established before Chadwick Boseman? They had all these ideas made after the first film.
      No one knew Chadwick was going to die so this character-while Chadwick did an amazing job playing him- is NOT Chadwick’s property. Just because he died doesn’t mean the franchise dies too.

    • @bionicwoman9884
      @bionicwoman9884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they did remember him