Not Recasting T'challa Is A Mistake
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Now that the movie is out, what are your thoughts?
Ryan Gosling as T'Challa, would have been the perfect choice. 😎
@@GhettoDetective Who is white???
@@sawanna508 Ok then what about Kumail Nanjiani as T'Challa ?🙂
@@sawanna508 He's kidding
And as for the movie, l thought it was cool.
Shuri is engaging to see, Namor is an incredible antagonist and it was nice to see Okoye again.
William Hurt died only three months and they recasted this man fast as hell. Somehow Thunderbolt Ross is more important to continue than T'Challa in Marvel lore and that's ridiculous.
THANK YOU!! They gon make sure Red Hulk continues on in the MCU but Black Panther?...Nah he good
@@KingBlackknuckle Funniest thing to they casted someone 10 years older than William Hurt. Harrison Ford in his early 80s so what will they do this time? Recast again if something abrupt happens
@@SSJKDotsSanctum That shxt was the craziest part, how you cast a muhfugga who wont be able to carry the role that long? lmaoo Plenty of other candidates who are at least 50 somethin that coulda been chosen from. But its like theyre more focused on famous people from other popular franchises for the sake of people pointing out easter eggs or some shxt
It's becuase marvel is and has been racist for the longest and never wanted tchalla as the forefront. A black male lead character that's a king.
Its not the same thing bro lol
I feel that Marvel decided against recasting T’Challa out of pure cowardice. They didn’t want to face the potential backlash from people who didn’t want to let go of Chadwick so they just let the character die off instead of honoring not only the character but Chadwick’s wishes for T’Challa to live on. All because they didn’t want to face the heat.
Agreed. I mean youre gonna have extremely childish people who think they own a franchise because theyre fans of it. But at the end of the day, theyll just have to get over it. They didnt know Chadwick personally, so them actin like its a cardinal sin to recast T'Challa makes ZERO sense
@@KingBlackknuckle Precisely. People need to understand that T’Challa is bigger than Chadwick. He knew it, his family knows it, and the fans (the MCU ones who never read a comic) need to realize it. I’ve heard some people flat out say that recasting T’Challa would’ve been disrespectful to Chadwick which is such self absorbed bullshit because what they really mean by that is that they don’t want to see another actor play T’Challa and they’re using the man’s memory as a crutch.
To be fair, I would feel bad for whoever the new T’Challa would be. Imagine the hate comments and death threats.
It was because they wanted to push Shuri on us. Chadwick Boseman's death was just an excuse they used.
Chadwick's brother and wife even said recast.
Kevin F. Said NO
If thats not disrespect i don't know what is
It was a disrespect to the Bosmen Family
It was disrespectful to the
And it was disrespectful to Stan Lee and Steve Ditko
ALSO
They recast Williams hurts character Gen. Ross but killed off T'challa
A minor WHITE character gets recast but a major BLACK character.
Sounds racist to me
Keep in mind those people you are talking about who don’t want a recast just started watching/ knowing Black Panther in “2018”. Not only that they only watch the movie not because of the character but the cast, they ain’t Marvel fans, they are movie fans
I've been saying the same thing for years to my friends we need to get out of this mentality that only certain actors can only do specific roles . All I care about is that whatever im into the people behind it do a good job and are passionate .
facts bruh, so long as they cast the right actor and they can bring that same energy to the role, shxt will be smooth. He doesnt need to emulate Chadwicks Tchalla, he just has to bring that kind of energy that brings the character to life
For context Shuri was Black Panther for like two weeks lmfao that comic did not sell at all. And then they brought him back.
I agree with you that it's a mistake there not gonna recast him, and if not we're not gonna see him interact with Storm, Illuminati, which is a big missed opportunity, no one had a problem with recasting Dumbledore, James Bond, Super-man, Batman etc I know It wasn't easy for cast crew members because they knew Chadwick and there in grief but there tons of actors out there they can choose for the right role to keep his legacy.
A lot of people said that it would be disrespectful to recast him, but I feel like it's more disrespectful to just kill off his character and have someone else take the mantle. Obviously, I didn't know him, but I feel like Chadwick would've wanted T'Challa's story to continue even if it was with a different actor
Them not recasting T’Challa is the reason that I am not watching the upcoming Wakanda Forever. I can’t support that decision, just because the actor died doesn’t mean their character they were playing should be killed off. I don’t think that they are “honoring” Chadwick by killing off his character. No you’re just discontinuing his work and saying no other black actor can take up the role?? Huh?? That’s bs I’ve been reading Black Panther comics since I was a kid and now when he gets his own franchise we’re just gonna kill him off and never use him again? STUPID decision
facts bruh. I honestly dont blame anyone who doesnt wanna see it. I mean like, if it makes sense for people to say that Black Panther shouldnt be recast because the original actor passed away, then the same should be said for Marvel comics itself by that logic. I mean Jack Kirby, Stan Lee and all the other original crew that started Marvel are all dead at this point. So therefore, Marvel should be shut down and they shouldnt make another comic book under that label again.
Sounds bout dumb ass hell, dont it?
@@KingBlackknuckle Exactly fam took the words right out of my mouth
I won't either
People are really taking his death hard as if they were close with him. I was sad about his death to but some people taking it WAYYYY to far.
Man they recast Terrance Howard he ain’t even dead 🤣🤣🤣
T’Challa the character was around decades before being out on cinema. Not recasting T’Challa is like not recasting genie Bruce Wayne from the original Batman film. Actors are not the characters.
EXACTLY
Thank you! I'm tired of people acting as if BP can't be played by new actors.
Especially when other characters with a similar situation WILL have a recast
@@KingBlackknuckle true. Me I'm like support black indie characters. So you can actually have control.
He can be recasted because wakanda went to space and t'challa was reborn and they can do it that way
He should've been recast 2 years ago already. The character didn't get enough content to be rested so early. If it's after a trilogy then it's a different matter.
facts, i mean shxt, theyd never retire characters like Spiderman so early after only ONE solo movie
I’ve been saying this for ages, and been told that I’m insensitive, and that he’s “irreplaceable”. Like, he was an awesome dude, but look at other characters like Batman’s, Superman, and Spider-Man. All been recast multiple times. And in Batman and Superman, some are for the same continuity!
But realistically, they have so many outs, they could just pull a Don Cheadle, and not mention it, or, now that multiverse is a thing in the MCU they could just get an alternate universe Tchalla, where he lost his country and needs a new purpose.
@@RiceCubeTech exactly, like think about how many characters in the MCU got recast or WILL be. Hulk-recast, Red Skull-recast, War Machine-recast, Thunderbolt Ross-will be recast, Thanos-recast, Cassie Lang-recast, and im sure theres others. So they made sure other heroes, villains and also lesser known characters be recast to continue their on screen presence in the MCU but...just not Tchalla though...yea that makes sense
@@KingBlackknuckle Its because he's a strong black masculine male that stands on his own two feet and didn't have to be built up by Cap or Iron man like Sam and Rhodes. And you know they see that as a threat so much so they don't want our sons to be influenced by positivity.
@@smifdaniggod undeniable
They should have recast T'Challa
I think it’s ridiculous that they wrote Chadwick’s death into the movie. I’ve seen it once but I don’t think I’ll be seeing it again. Every time I see it I would have to revisit Chadwick Boseman’s real death because they wrote it into the movie.
yea its ridiculous that they decided to make Tchalla basically also die from a "mysterious illness" that could only be cured by the heart shaped herb...which is ALREADY IN HIS BODY. Smh, it was unnecessary and nonsensical as far as im concerned.
Agreed my guy. People need to stop actin like itll be the end of the world if a new actor takes on the role. I mean, the representation crowd is so obsessed with "passing the mantle" but somehow Black Panther shouldnt get a new actor? Bwah stoooooop
word son. I wanted my boy to clap them cheeks on Storm, but naaaah, we cant have nothin nice lol
@@KingBlackknuckle lmaooo Tchalla was THUNDA clappin them cheeks bro
But it’s too late now there’s a female black panther 🤐
and they wanna say that "black female representation matters" when you have Storm, Captain ramow, iron heart etc Heck they could've made a captain Ramow solo movie, that works.
@@katlegokhotsholo9232 it ain't too late. We can still get him in a 3rd film
My thing is I understand both sides of the equation. As far as Wakanda Forever goes, I get that the director and the other actors just felt that recasting him wouldn't be right. That writing T'Challa's death into the movie was sort of their way of coping with it and I think that movie does work.
But I still personally feel a little weird about it. This is a character who has been around since the 60s. He has outlived both of his creators. He's going to outlive a bunch of writers and artists and even voice actors who play him. This is a character who has stood the test of time and I think it's kind of a shame that his character's story was effectively over in the MCU because of his passing. Would a recast have worked? Maybe not. But I think it COULD have while still respecting Boseman's passing.
I agree with you. I was hoping that the movie would've taken place during the five year Thanos snap, and then he could've come back during the end of the movie or a post credit scene. That would've been a hard ass scene. Unfortunately nobody at marvel had thought about that. Oh well
that woulda been even better but instead, they had to come up with this hella convoluted ass way to KIND of recast Tchalla. Which was...by giving him a son....who's name is also Tchalla -__- smh
I was hoping the same thing but nope they’re saying no one is not allowed to play T’Challa unless it’s Chadwick.
They recast Spiderman, Superman, Batman, etc. Why not T'Challa.
They recast Hulk because Edward Norton was too difficult to work with. They could recast T’Challa.
I wouldn't use the cast and crew since they're all about that check.
You gotta think about where Marvel is heading. If they are heading to battle world, they could potentially recast black panther at the end of secret wars. Just my thoughts 🔥
hmmm, now THAT would actually be an interesting turn of events. Thats assuming dis-marvel would bother to pull somethin like that as a "see? nothin to worry about" type surprise. But idk bruh, skeptical me isnt gonna get my hopes up too much.
@@KingBlackknuckle haha fasho bro, I’m being hopeful but I think they do need a T’CHALLA, especially after he came in guns blazin in the MCU.
@@sjtheartisan facts, he needs at LEAST two more solo movies before somebody else come takin up the mantle or whatever. I mean shxt, Iron Man, Cap and Thor got 3. Hell, Thor got FOUR so far.
I wanted the recast from the beginning. I love Chadwick take but he is just a actor .
Damn, even Batman came all the way from the DC universe just to give his 2 cents 😆
@@KingBlackknuckle yeap 😂
I'm fine if they recast a actor. Just do it in a respectful way if they are making them a next black panther
That’s actually why I did not went to go to see if cause they did recast t’challa that’s exactly why I am starting to lose faith in mcu
They can pass the Mantle of Black Panther to whoever they want. That's not what Recast Tchalla is about. The character of Tchalla is too important to the story.. so after they get done doing all this press for the movie the issue still remains... #RecastTchalla
yea, even when Tchalla stepped down, he still had a role to play. They didnt just X him outta the marvel landscape just because the BP title was given to Shurri
No they should. I recast the king 1000% there’s so much story about Charlie to be tell 50 years to be exact. Why is it that one of the best black character they make it seems like only one black man could play the black panther really that’s a goddamn shame how much Batman have we have how much superman have we have.
The movie did rumor he may have a son. I'd much rather have Tchalla instead of his son. But what the mcu is doing from what I see is that their gonna name Tchalla son, TChalla II. Just like in the comics were in another universe. Tchalla and storm have a son and name him TChaka II. I think there gonna have TChalla II meet up with storm in the MCU. The X-men won't be introduced until 2024 - 2025. I can feel that black panther 3 would be within that time frame and that the MCU is gonna have TChallas son(TChalla II/Jr) fall in love with Storm and that's how we get the entire Storm and Tchalla relationship. The Infinity gauntlet could also happen. They could also bring tchalla back in secret wars as a surprise cameo and have him wield the gauntlet to hold off against Kang etc etc. I can see this happening in the future. But at the same time I don't want the Black Bastard Son of the king. I want Tchalla not his son. But we can't change anything now it's done. #RecastTchalla #SaveTchalla #HonorChadwickBoseman
yea, theyre probably gonna do that whole pseudo call back but through different characters. So we're only kind of seeing references to the comics but not really if thats the direction theyre goin. Idk, im just hopin they renege on the refusal to cast a new actor. Black Panther should at least have 2 more solo movies before killin the character off or having someone else take up the role
@@KingBlackknuckle Man black panther deserves 6 solo movies, 2 trilogies. Thor is getting a 5th movie. And Spiderman is getting a 4th. Both Thor and Spiderman are about to have 2 trilogies with the first trilogy being origin trilogies. Black panther deserves 2 trilogies.
@@BigReuben97 word, Thor and Spiderman got trilogies on top of the cameos theyre gonna make in other characters movies too. Knowin how big Spiderman is, they probably gonna give him 9 movies. I mean shxt, the Sam Raimi trilogy was intended to span at least 6 movies before they pulled the plug on Spiderman 4.
@@KingBlackknuckle facts. And it's rumored sony is bringing back the Rami Verse and they plan on making spiderman 4 and Amazing Spiderman 3. But it's still a rumor for now. And your more likely right. I can see Mile morales being introduced by Tom hollands 5th movie. Then they fully introduce miles as spiderman by the 7th movie maybe. All of its possible. Especially with what Sony is doing with the vemon verse. Knull etc. And we haven't seen Morlun and Morlun us highly connected to both spiderman AND black panther. But at the end of the day we need a new tchalla. #RecastTchalla
@@BigReuben97 id def pay to see them revive the Raimi saga and finish the TASM verse with a third movie. A second live action Spiderverse with the Inheritors as the villains this time wouldnt be too bad either.
They too busy riding this “woman empowerment” wave!
Bingo! I heard mbaku who is the only male character in the movie from Wakanda barely had any screen time. This is a black girl magic film like the woman king
Great video. I used to think T'Challa being recasted was somewhat disrespectful but now my perspective on that has changed, because T'Challa is a character who is still very much alive in the comics and not recasting him has really hurt the MCU. I think these big movie studios have to allow for some flexibility on recasts. They've lost out on a lot of potential storylines for him because of this decision.
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As an Asian American man (who is currently looking for any job sadly), I respect Black Panther and Chadwick Boseman. I believe that he would respect any actor to take the mantle of the King of Wakanda. I’m sad that his sister took that mantle instead.
spider-man recast-ed multiple times, Superman recast-ed multiple times! it was crazy how they did him (Damn Marvel) T'challa's character deserved to keep going on! we loved chad he is still missed.
I get why, cause Chadwick meant a lot to so many people and practically became T'challa. All across. But a recast wouldn't have hurt in the slightest in the long term. It was no one's fault and it couldn't have been avoided. Was Wakanda Forever good as a tribute movie? Yeah, but only in the short term. Honestly going against Chadwick's words & killing off the character offscreen, AFTER T'challa proved to be the leader Wakanda needed (and we barely got any of that afterwards) was disrespectful. To the character after everything that was built up in a universe where so much is build up to one thing and another.
I fully agree with you. This notion we can only have an actor in a role as long as the first person who was cast is willing or able to is nonsense. In the case of Black Panther, we barely got any mileage of T'Challa, and so many stories of his have been untouched. It's sad Chadwick Boseman was taken , but he didn't want to character to die with him. Marvel/disney should done it, but instead they want to be cowards and do the progressive thing and replace any straight male characters with a women whenever possible. They have no loyalty to the brand anymore , it's just a vehicle to push their message these days.
You couldn't be more right. I get it, Chadwick is irreplaceable, but that doesn't mean his character had to DIE with him! Besides, didn't his family give their blessing to recast him?
You know what, at the end of the day, a crazy fact about all this is that Disney/Marvel are taking this gamble because they can. They are imagining that they won't need us T'chala fans, as they have millions of MCU stans who get excited for MCU projects no matter how hard the studio sh*ts on the source material. You have to understand that we only represent the foundation of original comic stories, and those stans represent the foundation of the the kind of stories that Disney/Marvel want to tell in little to no regard to the source material. They are an easier market, hence why even the crappiest MCU movies make money.
How about this articles as early as Jan 2020, way before he passed, say Chad was informed by Feige the producer and already knew he was being phased out and replaced by Shuri and he was not happy at all. And neither was Coogler. (Chad was doing like Mehersala Ali is now about Blade's direction). Boseman complained subtly to reporters. You can look it up (Chadwick Boseman unhappy with BP sequel). he was even considering walking because of this direction. I had the honor of reaching Chadwick briefely online and they eluded they were quietly preparing a script about Tchalla meeting Storm and a character story on him as king. Possibly show them getting married. Doom and Namor were in it. But you get the classic rivalry with Tchalla and Namor, the battle of two kings. But Feige cancelled that for his female woke movement. Phasing out Tchalla, the black male king, and replacing him with women was always the plan by Kevin Feige...Not honoring Chad. His death albeit unfortunate did not cause Marvel or Disney's course of action in this direction. Now they just gonna exploit his death to counter the Recast TChalla movement. This is not the movie Chad wanted. So its a Hard Pass for me. It wont get my dollar.
Oh yeaaaa i heard about that a while back too. It was still some ol bullshxt back then too. Not to mention some people were talkin bout "its time for Black Panther to step aside and let Shurri do her thing" and im like muhfugga, BLACK PANTHER JUST GOT HERE! Like damn, can he AT LEAST get a trilogy before yah start talkin about replacing him? smh
it should’ve taken place after Infinity War. Tchalla was dead for 5 years so that would have been perfect to honor Chadwick then and have a post credit scene when Tchalla gets blipped back then he’s off to endgame.
That woulda been PERFECT. Real shtxt. But see, imma watch it on plus and then I'll probably review how the movie coulda went
No disrespect but I watched black panther for the character of T'Challa not Chadwick Boseman.
1000% I’m with you!!!
A similar problem is not making a movie about Yasuke because Chadwick was gonna play him
I need a tchalla and ororo movie now I can't see black panther not being in the MCU standing next to his badass queen the legendary X-Men storm I don't care for shurinat all
thats facts bruh. I was lookin forward to a Tchalla/Storm hookup ever since they bought out fox. But nah, they wanted to blue ball muhfuggas on that storyline. Some ol bullshit
Yes bruh!!!!! I been waiting for that storyline since the first mention of wakanda I had thoughts man they might be setting up background for storm and then tchalla getting married which would've been a great way to introduce the X-Men start off ...but nope instead we get watered down I hope they do eventually put this story into place so much can be done along with more like wolverine fighting him too like that one story
@@MuiGohan smh bruh, its ridiculous how much content there is surrounding BP that could be adapted into movies and even certain events that could take place in other characters movies that its ridiculous. Just a whole ass waste of source material.
It sucks we'll never get the real secret wars with Black Panther and Mr Fantastic leading the story
Recast because he can be reborn they just won't follow existing cannon aka the loose history of space
Woulda been dope to have Chadwick around for as long as say, RDJ, or Chris Evans/Hemsworth but reality is reality and he isn't with us anymore. Marvel could've easily kept T'Chala/Black Panther out of the limelight for a little bit, and then brought in a new actor with a fresh take. And with how bad people want Killmonger back, he was bad ass as hell no doubt, but shit, there are other young black actors who could do some amazing shit besides Chadwick Boseman and Michael B. Jordan.
At first, my initial opinion, was against recasting tbh because I was just so taken aback by his passing. But with years in between I've done a total 180 and wish they would've taken the time to find another actor who could have played the character, become iconic in his own right.
You the man for liking Brosnan. Tomorrow Never Dies is the shit!!!!
Michael Jai white out there somewhere, Wesley snipes. Play an old panther.
With all due respect to him, my opinion never changed just because he passed. I never liked his performance that much 🤷♂️ His lack of charisma made him get severally outshined by his own villain. I mean that in the nicest way possible and I don’t mean to disrespect the dead, but I don’t think I should have to hide my opinions either. I would have been happy with a recast regardless 🤷♂️
They didn't recast him because of what he represented for black people. And they try and give an insulting excuse as if they do this for his name sake
It's clear that the only reason they didnt recast t'challa for black panther is because marvel was going full M-SHE-U with making shuri the new black panther. Even if they wanted to go down that route, They still should of recasted T'challa.
They always wanted a female black panther
The progressive agenda strikes again.
Great Video
Hey man, great video and you just made a subscriber out of me. As someone who really loves going to the MCU movies still, I loved the original black Panther and it broke my heart when we lost Chadwick . But it really was a mistake for them to make a second black panther movie without just recasting him. I’m not saying the second Black Panther movie was terrible, the acting was phenomenal. There was some beautiful cinematography there. I can tell everyone in that movie brought there a game, but you could tell, they really didn’t know how to make this movie without him.
During the first movie, I never once checked to see how much longer it had during the second movie I pulled my phone out of my pocket six times because while I knew everyone was trying their best that movie just wasn’t that entertaining .
bruh you be speaking mad facts
how many Jokers
If they was smart they would had...i would have casted a older version with Wesley snipes
word, MJW woulda been a good choice for Black Panther too if it was made maybe 20 years ago.
@@KingBlackknuckle i thought him to but i think Wesley woud do justice to the character and chad
We need to come together and addrss the lack of/poor representation of black men in Hollywood. We’ve seen time and time again that black men are box office cheat codes. If you go back and watch Black Panther 1 you’ll realize it’s actually pretty bad, movie wise. Limited suit action, he gets killed and is “reluctantly” brought back to life, which was completely unnecessary. Would they have killed Steve Rogers or Thor in their own movie, just to bring them back? No. It’s tacky and makes the hero look weak. However, it still brought in $1.3b because there was a strong, black male lead playing the role. Not because the story was soo good. If you watch Justice League, Cyborg looks helpless, gets torn apart and needs the HELP of Superman to separate the boxes in the end. Hancock a drunk. Green Lantern, they went with Hal Jordan and made John Stewart a cartoon. Miles Morales a cartoon. Sam Wilson, hand me down Cap. Rhodes, hand me down Tony Stark. Blade, production halted due to lack of action scenes and storyline. They killed T’Challa off so they don’t have to portray a black man in that light again. T’Challa was a genius, who rivaled Deadpool fighting wise in the comics. Yet he was killed in his own movie. Jewish Hollywood wants white men to look like Gods and geniuses while black men are made to look feeble, weak or in need of help. Pay attention. There are more black villains than black hero’s for a reason.
hit the nail clean on the head bruh. Which is why i never put a substantial amount of faith into how black ppl are portrayed in someone elses narrative. Its always a bait and switch even when the coast seems clear.
Steve Rogers was not killed? Frozen in the ice for 70 years is kind of a death similar to T'Challa's almost death in the first movie. Somekind of death is ALWAYS part of a hero's journey. And "The Spiderverse"-movies are not cartoons they are high quality animated movies that allow to tell a story in a way live action is unable too. It is a misconseption that animated movies are just for kids. Hell the first part even got an academic award and a Golden Globe. Never did T'Challa come of as week to me.
@@sawanna508 T’Challa doesn’t represent you or your community so you likely don’t get it. Dying IN HOLLYWOOD is not a part of a hero’s journey. Think, these are Hollywood actors. Many of them wouldn’t sign up for a project where they die and come back to life in the same film. There’s a reason why they never did that to Iron Man, Captain America, or Thor. Sure Iron Man dies at the end of End Game but he saves the universe. It’s different. The passivity you see these things with is expected.
Michael Jai White would be the perfect Black Panther!!!!
Edge of tomorrow has two great strong main characters of opposite sex.
I think they’ll probably recast him when the mcu gets rebooted in like 2035
I'm sure his son will take the mantel from him. Why introduce him if that's not the plan?
@@sawanna508 reasons that Jr is a whole new character not a recast of t'challa the character who is the main black panther. They don't want another actor to play t'challa because they can't process another actor being that character.
Not recasting Tchalla was one of the MCU’s greatest fumbles. Lost all interest in the Wakanda storyline
Mmmm I get what your saying... Tchalla has a lot more stories he could and should tell. Plus he plays a big role in parts of secret wars, however, I think the main issue comes with the way the mcu is structured. It's sorta why the spider man and Batman arguments done really work. When they recast spidey or Batman, they created a while new film line/universe, changing the other actor, which in turn, as you said allows then to bring there own spin to the characters. However, in the mcu, they can't break off from the established order unless they create an else world (variant) character so they can bring there own spin. A new actor would essentially have to play both the old actor and the character to fit within the universe or it could come off as jarring. Now, j think they'll definitely bring him back. I mean, no one stays dead on the comics after all, so it just depends on if they go the else world route or some magic stuff. Either way, personally, I think it makes at least some sense why they didn't recast him
The only issue with that is rhoady. They recast him so they could have tachalla. I suppose there it would be an issue of portrayals, in which boseman made a lasting imprint on the character, whereas rhoadys original actor didn’t, but it is still a little tricky to come up w a defense for that
@@jk_282 not just Rhodey Rhodes tho, even Bruce banner Hulk was recasted from Edward Norton to Mark Ruffalo, also, alongside the superhero genre Christopher reeves Clark Kent/Superman was also recasted in 2006 with Brandon Ruth, also James bond.....nuff said about that, even Eric Draven played by Brandon Lee was eventually recasted with Mark Dacascos in the tv series and even Agent's of SHEILD tv series, John Garret character was played by Bill Paxton in Season 1, but then he passed away and by season 7, the role was recasted with a younger version of the same character with Bill Paxton's son, James Paxton, "jarring" isn't something audiences/consumers look into when we are talking about a fictional universe with a purple alien with 6 stones, a talking raccoon and tree, a demi-god that can fly and use a magical hammer, a guy that has a suit of armor flying around with lasers, another guy who was in cryogenic sleep for like 70 years... like none of this is suppose to make sense IRL, but that's the beauty of "Creativity and imagination" killing off TChalla does a disservice on the character, the impact of the culture it aspires to be, the Late actor himself who wanted people to see the ROLE, NOT HIM, that's the duty of an actor! We really won't know the reaction until it actually happens imo
How many lines did they break when they recast Thunderbolt Ross?
Please stop.
i think they should have recast him, and one of the best way to do, was to have him come from a different reality, like in spiderman, dr. strange 2, ..i think it's also a plan to a female in the leading role , look at all the past few movies and tv series....dr. strange 2, loki, thor love and thunder, she-hulk, eternals, etc and they keep saying hey, the women is way more better at it,.., and don't get me wrong there were movies where women are bad ass..a whole lot, ..
Is it true that Tobey and Andrew from Sony spider man universe and their villains are now canon to the mcu
in a weird retroactive kinda way...yea. The same applies to them, the XMen and the Fantastic 4. Theyre now considered part of the MCU multiverse
I'm pretty sure the guy himself said 'hey, if I end up dying, just recast me, I want the character to continue on'. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think there’s a difference between MCU recasting and other brands. Bond, Batman, Spider-Man all have recasted characters because they’re in new worlds or continuity. Keaton was Batman in Burton’s world. Holland was Spider-Man in the MCU. etc. I don’t see Garfield as a recast, that duology was a remake. If Tobey couldn’t return for Spiderman 2, they were going to recast him with Jake. MCU has never rebooted and if they did, no one would question recasting the characters. MCU recasting has been with Rhaodes and Banner. Both Iron Man and Incredible Hulk are a little weird to rewatched because of the different actors. Similar to Maggie in TDK. The Dark Knight would be more perfect if Katie returned. What I’m trying to say is, there’s a difference between recasting and new interpretation. I don’t know how to write T’Challa out, but narratively, it would have made more sense that M’Baku was king and the Black Panther during the Blip and post Endgame, he proves why he’s worthy and brought success and honor to Wakanda. Make Wakanda Great Again: M’Baku 2024
I suspect 50 cent lost all that weight from a drug addiction, and then he took that movie role to hide behind it...
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Damn right they should've recast him💯
Black panthers is to big a character not to recast. And then to honor him they kill him off screen like some NPC. I thought it was very disrespectful to the actor and the character.
This is so true man, keep up with the good content❤
Been saying this. Thank you
Is it an honor or an insult to kill off a character after being in three movies?
Should've casted Michael Jai White as the Black Panther, after Chadwick Boseman's death. Since Michael Jai White already played Spawn in the 1997 movie, and he was in The Dark Knight for a little bit.
Disney get in they feelings, just recast like DC does. I know disney kinda soft in general but when yall bought marvel, yall starting to drop the ball. Just recast him like DC recanted the joker ot batman or some skit. Disney can't get in they feelings about recasting. Keep it simple and keep it moving. Recast tachala
Exactly bruh. There's gotta be at LEAST three solid candidates that could be a suitable recast for Black Panther. But they talkin bout "wE wAnNa HoNoR hIs MeMoRy" like nah, yah just being unnecessarily extra right now.
@@KingBlackknuckle bruh he had cancer! They knew that shit. I has something to do with the feminine movement in general, Disney be trying to please everyone, like everyone,women, lil girls and lil soft ass boys. Gotta get cut throat around here. I wish Sony or Netflix bought marvel. I'm sorry but black women hero roles in the marvel universe won't do better than The wonder woman or mz marvel movie. It's a agencia I don't got time to care about but I'll speak on it all day. Shit be deep for no reason. They need to stop getting political and make mfn movies that ppl of all walks of life can watch without killing off a charter hero that's fantasy that ppl like... Like wtf!!! Kill off Thor and make jane thor,, kill captain America and do the same for example. See how Disney marvel stock gonna drop and make soft ass lil boys that believe in that shit as a kid and. It's looking like they want men to watch soft ass feminine ( no masculine acting roles or show dudes getting they ass whipped by men), not gonna fly sorry not sorry. But you feel me tho. Stay peeped on game from all sides 💯
@@esolopricemon9164 if it turns out to be some agenda type bullshxt, none of it would surprise me in the slightest. Thats why im only a fan of these things at a distance. Hollywood is never gonna go full throttle and make black characters and stories TOO good. Nah, theyll make it nice to a degree and then throw some sucka shit into the mix. They always do. Best believe game is being peeped.
Agreed indeed, we'll see what happens. They might wise up. All I know they better not slack on deadpool with wolverine that's supposed to be in it. Matter of fact to revamp black panther just recast tachala and make it a rated R movie. I need to be on the Disney marvel board for black characters in the marvel universe, I'll bring up stuff that makes sense fill they pockets while they passively filling mines. Pay me for my ideas like nickcannon and everyone else, I just want my royalties and it to be passed down to my children and children's children, and build up my community n shit and uplift. But Disney better buck up or they money gonna get the beats and they get bought out. Mind you they are not a private organization anymore thanks to the Florida governor. Disney will fall sooner or later. They fuckin up the money like G money 🤣
@@esolopricemon9164 word, they WERE at a point in time where they could afford to be stupid and careless but not anymore lol. More and more people gettin tired of the shenanigans n shxt. But im hopin they keep Deadpool R rated. They already fvcked up when they decided that BLADE was gonna be a bullsxhittin ass pg13 movie. Thats not a character that can be done properly if you make them kid friendly!! Smh these goof asses bro
I like this dude. Almost like he's sane and mature n'shit. Weird. Too bad like 96% of people are stupid as f**k and 95.8% of those people are on the internet.
Just used face technology with Chadwick face
That sounds like a plan, in theory. But then there's the question of that uncanny valley effect too though
A great Actor and a great Man……..it was out of respect since chad left such a huge impact around the world however Black Panther is bigger than one Actor. Black Panther is huge in the Marvel Universe he even gets married to Storm from the X-Men. The Story is to big not to recast him. Honor him by recasting the role that way you give respect to Black Panther but you give respect to chad and his legacy.
Why abandoning a great character like TCHALLA when He have some many stories to tell...Make it make sense.. #Recast TChalla
As for recasting TChalla, that's what the Multiverse is for bro. What If has TChalla being Star Lord, why not being that version over into live action?
John David Washington (Tenant) would be a great TChalla. Bring in What If TChalla for the next Black Panther. Secret Wars can be a multiverse event to bring that in.
There, problem solved
Where this whole thing gets even more stupid is in Disney's California Adventure theme park... So they have Avengers Academy land, right... and in this same land, you can get your picture taken CURRENTLY with MCU Captain America, Black Widow, and Iron Man, in their costumes from The Avengers... but when Chadwick died, they 'retired' the meet-and-greet with Black Panther, then brought out Shuri as Black Panther, built a fucking monument to T'Challa in the land, and started doing a show where Shuri Black Panther and Okoye doing a 'remembrance ceremony' several times a day! Marvel/Disney 100,000 percent used Chadwick's death to sell shit. They manipulated our grief into what they thought would be a guaranteed win for Wakanda Forever. You will never change my mind about this. I thought it was gross and wrong. Most importantly, it was NOT what Chadwick would've wanted. His own family has said he told them he wanted the character recast so that the character, and not just him alone, would be a positive influence on kids from now on.
He is going to be recast but in a much more tasteful way.
Marvel has it planned just watch 😤😂
Great video man, I loved his black panther. And it sucks he was awesome, but they could have replaced him, they doing shuri eh, it’s ok but it still ain’t t’challa. And I feel you on how Hollywood feels like they need to step on men to lift up women. That’s one of the reasons captain marvel sucked, you can have strong women heroes right beside strong male heroes without putting one or the other down, when Hollywood or anybody else does that crap to males that isn’t equality that’s just doing the same thing feminism accuses men of, pushing women down to lift men up. That’s old generation crap, we all know better, it’s ok to have both males and females as strong leaders in any movie. But we will see what they do. A female black panther will be cool but I still want t’challa back, hell I want them to do a white wolf story, bring in the adopted brother as a villain and then maybe a redemption, bring people together ya know could be a great story.
word, im not opposed to Shurri becoming Black Panther at some point. But as of right now, that shxts just WAAAAAY too damn soon
Been saying this the whole time, I think it's a cash grab period. Most people are honored at the time of death like Kobe, Nipsy Hustle, Michael Jackson and even the Queen of England but to wait two years and kill the character that Chadwick worked through sickness to portray is nothing but a cash grab. Also the new movie is 90% women on screen with no male Black leads.
oh most definitely, its hard NOT to feel like its a cash grab. Cuz you dont have to do all that just to honor someone . All this extra shxt aint even necessary and its just a sorry excuse for them to push an entirely different story as the sequel.
No male Black leads? What about M'Bacu? He is an important charakter in that movie.
You reached a lil bit bro, a lot of people including myself did not really care for Andrew Garfield’s Spiderman. There’s a reason he didn’t have a third movie
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Nah. Chadwick Boseman IS T'Challa.
People, even Chadwick himself, tend to view the roles and the actors as separate entities, but this forgets that, sometimes, actors DO bring their soul to their characters' greatness. Something that you cannot achieve with new actors.
Robert Downey Jr. IS Tony Stark. Heath Ledger IS the Joker. Willem Dafoe IS the Green Goblin. Alfred Molina IS Otto Octavius. Johnny Depp IS Jack Sparrow. Tobey Maguire IS Peter Parker. Ellen DeGeneres IS Dory. James Earl Jones IS Darth Vader. Charles Martinet IS Mario.
chadwick is not t'challa, black panther has existed for decades. by not recasting him marvel has taken away one of the, if not the most famous black superhero.
Chadwick is not t'challa he's an actor who plays the fictional character t'challa logical they are not the same person.
Rdj is iron man in the movies not in real life he's an actor playing a live action version of the comic character. Two separate people.
Just like chirstopher Reeves, henry cavill, Dean cain, tom wellington, tyler from superman & lois are all actors and what they have in common is they all played superman the same character based from the comics they are not their version of the character.
Toby,Andrew Tom all played peter Parker spiderman they all played the same character based off the comics not their personal lives. They don't swing around new York saving people they are actors playing a character who does in movies.
It's like this Christopher Reeves was superman he (the actor) fell from a horse broke his neck but superman (the character) didn't fall from no horse and break his neck. The actor (Christopher ) paralyzed and years later died but superman wasn't paralyzed nor did he die with his actor.
My personal point is we shouldn't be labeling these actors with the characters they play in film or television they are not those fictional characters yes they bring them to life however they don't live as them.
@@dentallyderanged that seems to be going over alot of people heads chadwick and t'challa or Two different entities they're not the same person.
While I agree there's definitive versions that people prefer over others that set the tone for the character, it doesn't mean no one else should ever be given the chance to play a role. Chadwick Boseman is a perfect example of why you shouldn't ever tie the character's fate to the people who play them. He truly only got one solo movie, and that was it. So not like he was overused in the slightest. He definitely needed more time to shine, but we were all robbed of that. But the show must go on. He did great in the role, but this is a character that is far too important culturally speaking to put on a shelf because tragedy struck. Fans will lose on on so many potential stories that have not been told. It does far more harm than good to handle it this way. The MCU will burn thru it's potential storylines far quicker than it naturally would have if recasts happen as needed.
Captain America/Steve Rogers is one of my favorite characters, and I feel Chris Evans did a great good in the role, but I don't want th character being barred from ever appearing on screen again. There's still plenty of great Captain America stories to tell. I am fine with them giving Chris a send off and the character a break, but eventually his character will return even if Chris Evans does not. Chris Evans does not own being Steve Rogers as other actors have played the role before him and will continue to do so afterwards.
May be no one ever tops Evans or Boseman in their portrayals of the characters they were on screen...but I fail to see the harm in letting someone who is truly passionate and a good fit for the role from trying.
Recast or not they was gonna get folks who were unhappy. Let’s see the movie and then form our opinions
Let’s see the movie then form an opinion? If we want a recast, what difference does it make if we see the movie? T’Challa isn’t going to be recasted in the MCU according to Nate Moore. Stop trying to deflect from the fact that this is a disrespect to the legacy of T’Challa. This doesn’t happen to white iconic characters. They will always recast Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, The Joker etc.
@@derektheproducer 1. Idc if they do or don’t. Won’t make a difference to me. These are FICTIONAL characters. I spoke on seeing the movie first to form an opinion on the MOVIE not just the character. Didn’t matter what Disney did people were going to be upset regardless. You can’t please everyone is my point.
What’s the rush? Is it OK if they made a dope movie that paid homage to Chadwick Boseman?? They can always recast and probably will. What’s the rush?
its similar to a widow who loses her husband. Does she have to rush to remarry? Or can she just take her time
i hear where youre comin from. But at the same time, marvel is a business at the end of the day and the sole interest of all businesses is to make money and stay in business. In this case, would be giving the fanbase what they want in the form of continuing the Black Panther story with Tchalla. Not to mention, there are other characters in the MCU who the original actor passed away but the characters they played will still be recast. It woulda been one thing if they didnt kill off Tchalla and instead just said he's off world or is somewhere else handling business and just not had him in the movie as the central character. Then they coulda brought him back later instead of saying he was "gone".
@@KingBlackknuckle well, part 2 will be out in a couple weeks. People are saying it’s amazing so………
@@bluessax5089 we'll just have to wait and see. All anyone can do
I hate when uninformed people speak on things they know nothing about. Nate Moore said that T’Challa will never be recasted in the MCU. The whole argument of “what’s the rush?” Is irrelevant… They are literally killing off the character of T’Challa in Wakanda Forever. It’s interesting how people blindly follow bs without question.
@@derektheproducer although I appreciate your passion, Ryan Coogler was HIGHLY responsible for the success of that movie 🍿, I LOVE Ryan’s other movies as well “Fruitville station”,”Creed”, he’s given me no reason to not trust his judgement on movie making. So far Black Panther 2 is getting RAVE reviews so perhaps you anger is misguided. Either way, don’t get mad at me, I’m just some dude in the comment section.
Kevin said the Brie Larson would be the most important superhero in the MCU, now she’s been pushed all the way to the back, sharing her movie with other “marvels”.
Needless to say, there are many many ways to bring back the Black Panther in the future with all this multi verse stuff
A great Actor and a great Man……..it was out of respect since chad left such a huge impact around the world however Black Panther is bigger than one Actor. Black Panther is huge in the Marvel Universe he even gets married to Storm from the X-Men. The Story is to big not to recast him. Honor him by recasting the role that way you give respect to Black Panther but you give respect to chad and his legacy. With all this muti universe stuff happening now its the right time to bring new actor to own he role
Tbh I don’t really care about recast or anything I just want to see the black panther and he’s story just like the comics so honestly all this fussing y’all doing is a waste of time because at the end no one opinion matters not even mine
Ironically we stopped watching Marvel movies for an entirely different reason 👍🏾
Love the whole video; though I think Chris Hemsworth as an old man Thor would work. Not saying they should do it, just that it'll work lol
They really should have recasted him like wtf
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I feel like you almost said She-Hulk when mentioning women are better than men.🤣😂
Lmaoo oh don't worry bruh, that's up next 😂 🤣