Is the Z900RS a good track bike?! NCBike & Future mods!

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  • I was asked this a lot back in October, at the time I didn't think it was fair to make a video as the suspension was an absolute basket case with me on it. So here it is, not the definitive answer by any means as I only did 6 sessions this time.....but I feel a fair one!
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ความคิดเห็น • 44

  • @TheGorillaBiker
    @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What do you think? Would you have a Z900RS for the street and track or is there another bike you'd go for instead?

    • @Malato12
      @Malato12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MURICA! Freedom units!!!!! (rather elusive units I must say!) but nah I like cruiser xD

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How else can you measure your American temperature 🫡
      Cruisers are nice, but fast bike is more better 😂

    • @Malato12
      @Malato12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheGorillaBiker cruiser can be fasterized 😉

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Malato12 yeah but never as fast as say......a zx10r

    • @Malato12
      @Malato12 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheGorillaBiker still CFMoto 450? Have you sat yourself in one and do you even fell comfortable in it?

  • @byDanimal
    @byDanimal หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seeing you sitting in your garage using a bit of natural light all I can think of is that you might have one neighbor that's like "there goes that guy with his motorcycles again" every time you’re working on them or when you ride off or come home and I am so here for that. I can't wait for you to have people over all on motorcycles to really make them wonder what is going on.

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha I keep the door low enough so they can't see my face :D That'd unnerve me. Honestly no one speaks to anyone in my subdivision and I hate it. It's so weird to me having zero relationship with your neighbours. They definitely think I'm mad though working on stuff in a oven garage this time of year :D I've had one or two, but I have no local friends with bikes yet sadly :'(

  • @iwun269
    @iwun269 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Thegorillabiker hey! I had no idea you were there. First, I want to thank you!! I also have a 1996 GSXR 750 that I used your videos to help rebuild my carbs! Second, I thought you rode very smooth and consistent. I was one of the coaches at N2. #61 on the white Ducati 959. Would love to chat more next time. See you October maybe?

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh really! That's mad, small world and you're more than welcome. I still price shipping that bike over here every once in a while 😂
      Thanks!! Nice to hear it from an outside source, I wasn't unhappy with how I went but definitely wasn't 100% fitness wise.
      Ah nice, I was admiring your bike at one point actually 😂 Yeah absolutely! I'll be back in July and hopefully October money allowing!

  • @tomstc
    @tomstc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Felt like I was sitting in the garage with you having a good chat!
    Great video matey 👍🏻

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks bud, I suppose it literally is just that I just happen to be better friends with my camera than anything else these days 😂

  • @stephencartwright5046
    @stephencartwright5046 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question...? Would you not feel cheated trying to go faster with a smaller engine? You definitely need the rear sets as clearly it was in your mind the whole time so you were holding back. My instinct is to go with the higher option just to be sure you won't be thinking about it. Sounds like you need to try a sprocket change to prevent revving out in 5th. Those poor tyres . . . 😢. It shows how much bikes have evolved because when I started riding I thought it was normal for bikes to weave and wallow around corners. It was fun to watch the headstock moving from side to side in the tank cut out . . . . All my race bikes were road bikes. I don't know that I could steel myself to race here on underbone or ducks, I certainly don't want to ride them on the street 🤣. An interesting video. Keep having fun !👍

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably....possibly.....but there are 400cc endurance races I think it would qualify for.....
      Yeah as soon as they started touching down I back off, I've seen that cause too many accidents. The Sato option _looks_ more solid also, but that could just me me. The Gilles have a rotating mechanism to move the peg height and I can't see that being as durable.
      I would but I don't want to lose too much acceleration either.....plus you'll always have weak points to keep a bike comfortable and fun on the street too. Haha they did a great job, very sticky :D
      It definitely used to be more normal, even just frame geometry and frame flex, swingarm flex etc etc. Modern bikes are so so stable in my experience, this bike is way easier to feel the limits on than even the GSXR for instance. Hahaha fair enough!! I'd watch them go at it tho :D Thank you sir!

  • @Malato12
    @Malato12 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The first option seems better and would not compromise much on the riding positioning I believe

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Daily riding yes, but I'd be concerned about their design a little, it has a rotating peg assembly and I wonder would it be as solid as a fixed assembly.

  • @callandy100
    @callandy100 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't appreciate the grounding while watching your laps. That would definitely scare me!!! Not that I would be getting my knee down anyway 😂😂 Get the rear sets and slicks, then save for the Tuono - I know I'm no bloody help at all, but I thought I'd say it anyway 😂😂😂 Cheers, Andy.

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah you can barely hear it a few times, I had mostly sorted how far I could push after the first 3 sessions(which I didn't record). Ah it's not bad, it's just a recipe to hit a bump and unload your suspension which would not be fun. Oh I'm terrible at knee down, , my hips are very inflexible.
      Hahaha a Tuono is sadly a pipe dream, I genuinely have no idea how people afford something like that. Thanks amigo :)

  • @JebbGraff
    @JebbGraff 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Never done a track day, but hopefully one is in the future. I didn't even know about NCBike, so maybe that'll be my first one. You ever go to those Cycle Gear bike nights? Iw ent to the Fayeteville one in June and was thinking about checking out the Raleigh one next week.

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You should do one! They're mad fun and in my opinion(pinch of salt here as I am stupid) they also make you a better rider :) Yeah it's not far from us at all. 1.5 hours or so from Clayton so a bit further for you. I haven't yet, I keep meaning too and have even ridden that way a few times and then gotten distracted and ridden somewhere else! If I'm back in time for it I will go to that one, I should really get to one :D

    • @JebbGraff
      @JebbGraff 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheGorillaBiker so far I'm planning on the Raleigh one next week, so maybe I'll see you there. If not, we should meet up sometime.

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JebbGraff I'll do my best to get there! Absolutely!

  • @HippoDrones
    @HippoDrones 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder if it is worth gearing the bike to make 5th the highest gear you need so it doesn't bounce off the limiter and then just have the tall 6th for highway cruising 🙂
    Not sorting the suspension settings is a great way to see the difference when you do... not idiot... Scientist, you is a scientist! 😀
    Novice group should only ever have novice riders... We get a lot of folk who want to make themselves look better than they are by going in novice when they should be inters or even fast. One of our tracks; Anglesey has a real issue with racers using the trackdays as practice for racing the following weekend so book into any group they can get in on which really should not be allowed.
    I say all that, but did bung myself into novice at Anglesey on my V7 the other year after spending all morning being a mobile chicane in inters group, but even then, my lap times on a heavy 50bhp bike were still a fair bit faster than most of the novice riders, it was just safer for me to be there than in inters.
    I think the Sato rearsets will be too much, will put your rear of foot too close to the pillion pegs
    Ahh noooo, don't do the CFMoto450... nothing against the bike, but too much money for a gimmick toy.... can get a far better track bike for less. Now a CFMoto MT450 Rally and getting out on a BDR... 😀
    My ideal street/track bike would probs be a Street Triple 765RS.

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have thought about that, it's plenty fast enough on the road anyway so taking a smidge of acceleration away would be grand.
      Hahaha yes, I'll take it, I was doing Science!!!! :D
      Yep it was the same in mondello, but it was also extremely full there always so that also makes a difference, and the passing rules more lenient. I think some of the passing rules over here are mental, I get it's a track day but you should still be able to ride closely and safely with someone else. But that does make the proper group more important still eh!
      Yeah that's very fair, a good way to split groups would be lap times really, irregardless of the bike etc. But that would mean better passing rules per group and a bit more of a learning curve for newbies.
      I've come up with a possible much cheaper solution, you'll see it soon :)
      I don't know what to do anyway tbh.....I think the CFMoto would be cool but you can get a used ZX10R for less so.........I want all the bikes :'(

    • @HippoDrones
      @HippoDrones 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheGorillaBiker get all the bikes! 🤣😁👍

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HippoDrones just need to win the lotto and I will

  • @RoadsOfOz
    @RoadsOfOz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are the rearsets for track use only? Will you revert to stock when you are riding on the road?
    The ideal bike for me for combined track and road riding would be the BMW M1000R (but like the Tuono, it is a touch out of my budget).
    I had the same issue with top end speed with the Griso. It was the only time I felt like I did not have enough power (or top speed) was on a track day. Another reason that I am building the RSV as a track bike.

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No I'd leave them on all the time I'm far too lazy to be swapping them every time 😂
      Yes that is definitely one that's all the way up there too! Stupid money. :(
      Yeah exactly, plenty for the road, more than enough in fact but just feels flat at times on the track! I can't wait to see that :)

  • @redrebel2978
    @redrebel2978 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Second hand Japanese sports bike rather than the CF definitely 👍😎

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would love a zx10r or something but prices are still silly imo for things that are 15-20 years old

  • @lindsayselby3647
    @lindsayselby3647 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Check your email for link to rear sets for the Z900 RS .You tube won't let me post the link .I use rear sets on the street all the time and I am 193cm /6'4 ins.

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just saw it and replied! Thank you!

  • @markfortin8286
    @markfortin8286 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm seeing plenty of Tuono V4's 2017 and newer for under $10,000 on cycle trader. 😉

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have no bikes I would currently sell to fund this tho 😭😭😭 My collection habits are my real problem!

  • @aocbreeze8344
    @aocbreeze8344 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you to release the clutch in first gear, will the Z900RS move without to use the accelerator (Low rpm assist)?

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It has a torque assist clutch, I think is the term they use, yes. But if you're smooth enough with any bike old or new you can do that really on the flat. Why? :)

    • @aocbreeze8344
      @aocbreeze8344 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      th-cam.com/users/shortsl7qO3zIWLLY?si=IfuDyBT-XyTfTcyj
      In the video the GSX S750 climbs hills without accelerating. I found it interesting for urban traffic at low speeds.
      I didn't see anyone showing these details on the Z900RS.

    • @TheGorillaBiker
      @TheGorillaBiker  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ah fair enough. It would definitely do that, a very odd test tho as in traffic I'd never not be in control of the bike personally, as in actively using the throttle anyway. But I can do a short on it pretty easy!

    • @aocbreeze8344
      @aocbreeze8344 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheGorillaBiker Thanks a lot

  • @goldfish8196
    @goldfish8196 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Defense not a average mod. You are definitely not an average rider/ mechanical