I really appreciate your channel and especially this video! I'm not a serious archer. I have a Black Hunter (or two) that I use for recreational shooting on occasion, but archery isn't my primary or even secondary hobby. These incredibly affordable bows are just the thing for casuals like me. I'd been looking at the Tbow for a while because of the price point and design and now I'll get one.
@@huntinglife5202 Maybe the limbs are junk, I've not tried those. I have the riser and use it with long carbon/wood KAP limbs. There is no hand shock at all, with no stab/dampening or string silencers it is surprisingly quiet. It is a cast riser, so I'm not sure if I would recommend it at the 50lb you can order it at, but my 34lb limbs come in around 40lb on the 19" riser and it feels solid and have had no issues.
people say that the riser may even better than the original for it is machined and not cast machined, but the limbs are not good at all. People shouldn't buy this if they want to support Hoyt. But for those who can't afford a Hoyt and really dig in the looks I don't see why not. It's not right to do this but it gives the poor an option.
@@hanlin9320 I already own two Hoyt target risers, and multiple sets of Hoyt limbs, they have plenty of my money and support. I bought the TBOW riser as a fun recreational bow to take into the woods and not worry about damaging it. I'm sure it is a cast riser, not CNC machined like the original, but it's well made and plenty strong enough.
Based on your review I'm going to order this bow in the next week or so. Currently you can pick one up for €95 here in Germany delivered to your door. I'd say that's a great deal. Another couple of hundred euros for decent arrows an arrow rest and maybe a bow quiver and I've got a great little rig for the 3D course. Thanks for your honest reviews.
Hey Steven, I just watched your review of the TBow “Satori”. I think you are bang on with this review. I’ve been into trad archery for about a year now in order to rehab a shoulder injury. I dare not pull my 67 lbs hunting compound bow quite yet. As it happens my two favourite drawing recurves are my Hunters Niche Predator Classic 60” recurve and a close second is my TBow “Satori” with short #45 lbs Uukha Gobi limbs. My DL is 27”. Sweet drawing bows.
I have one and i love it. Also have a Satori. Both equal in my opinion. I also have a Anderson lower on my AR. Some people that already bought the high dollar stuff have to ridicule the lower cost copies to justify their purchase.
@@tomassjackson And the riser seems to be exactly the same, from the design of the holes to even the conic shape of the limb pockets. I'm wondering if is a knock off or Hoyt just makes the bow in China and the brand is selling the Satori renamed.
@@Buran01 I examined the Hoyt Satori in a shop and couldn´t find any difference between the two. Even the plastic or rubber coating of the tiller bolt is the same, the screw of the limb alignment (10.9), the rough surface coating, the deburring, the bevels, everything seems to be the same. But the second riser that I ordered for my brother (from China to Germany) and came in July 2019 had a different coating, now smooth, and the deburring was less accurate, but not bad. When I show the riser to my local dealers, they all say: But the material must be worse. - Al 7075!? - Don´t know, I´m shooting it with 48lbs draw weight, and I´m excited.
Again, nice review. One day I'm going to have to grab a recurve and try it on for size. Been 40 plus years since I shot a recurve. Just might be able to hit the inside of the range with it. Steven has the shooting the outside of the house down to a science.
I'm watching this video wanting to get into a recurve bow. I shoot compound but I want to learn the recurve. My problem is that I'm left handed. The new beginning bows here in America,left hand, start around $300 for a riser. In Southern California there are hardly any shops. Does Archery Supplies send to America or could you steer me to a good beginner bow. Love that Mybo in this review but it's a couple years old. ebay has some good used bow combination. I'm stuck. We have a great range with great instructors very close by. Help! Thank you for all your videos. Steven, keep getting better....
I’ve had a predator hunter recurve for many years now and been looking for something to use for slinging arrows since I heard predator closed. And I think I’m sold.
Hello. Didn't really hear what the riser was made of. Steven said: " metal riser". Must be aluminum not ferrous metal. It would weigh a lot. Can any one clarify this for me? Thanks
i thought for a second this was some sort of early preview of the satori until i looked at video upload date .. for sure a copy by the gents in china lol
Hi Steve..... based on this review you did i had to get this bow... i am a beginner but think i might have misjudged and bought the 19 inch riser with 45 lbs limbs (when strung the bow is 60 inches) .... as a beginner it''s difficult to draw the bow.....what would be a good replacement limbs for this riser..? help........
How does this compare to the sf/wns forge? Other than the bushings for quiver, and colour. Is there much difference in how it's feels, shoots and overall build quality?
the bow in video is what looks like a nock off of the hoyt satori bow made by hoyt the galaxy sear is made by a china based company and picked up by lancaster
Is amazing how in your W&W Black Wolf review you talk about how has much better finish than the Hoyt in both the riser and the limbs and yet here you're flattering the finish of riser and limbs of a bow which is nothing but the Hoyt Satori (rebranded, because seems that as happens with some of the PSE recurves, Hoyt is outsorcing the production of the Satori in China). Talking about cognitive disonance.... But I'm not saying that the bow is bad at all (indeed, seems a nice bow and only the Hoyt bag and the better string arming is missed). I'm just saying that sometimes a product you review is portrayed as desiderable/skippable just based in which ones you have. Your reviews are truly good and extensive, but sometimes I feel that are also tainted by biass.
Buran01 the satori is made in the USA, I’ve visited the factory. The bow you’re looking at in this video was manufactured in China illegally and is most likely inferior quality.
@@dylanm8145 I think you're right (at least about the in-house made of the Satori by Hoyt). Not sure about the quality: currently some brands from USA and South Korea (as Lancaster Archery, Sammick and even Win & Win) ourtsource the crafting of part of their products from countries like china. Lancaster's Galay risers, their limbs and even some limbs from W&W are made in China. Is the iPhone a smartphone of low quality due mass produced overseas? Of couse, there's the problem of the steal of the intellectual property, but to be honest brands as Bosen and Junxing are offering some not-clone bow designs with good quality at very competitive prices.
Everything is made in China now. Initially American companies 'out source' to China to build their products cheaper (sold at same price for more profit). Later China starts selling them direct to cut out the middle man.
Dude is charging $460 for a $250 bow, he is a rip, get it straight from china on ebay zero postage from between $188 to $250 AUD. His mark up can't be justified, it's just greed
@@overwatch3950 and still you can get it on ebay cheaper, his prices are still over the top expensive, even now. You buy from his shop your getting ripped off.
you can get the riser in the video above the hoyt satori copy for£85 in uk from china aliexpress i'd give limbs a miss and go tradtech blackmax for like $120
Just go out and buy this bow from Steve or u can buy the exact Satori version for over 3 times the price... FYI..Hoyt Satori is made in China & Tbow is made in china...go figure😎
No your the blind one , as in your total ignorance ! Shooting an aspirin in mid air I wouldn't call that blind > bloody amazing skills instinctive archery !
pretty likely that this cheap copy will break into pieces during the shot!Well bravo money well spent and the rest of the day will be spend in hospital
Ill bet you bought the Satori ! Im probably going to buy the Satori in a few more months. I will use this one for practice till I can . I just wanted a lower weight bow to learn on .
I really appreciate your channel and especially this video! I'm not a serious archer. I have a Black Hunter (or two) that I use for recreational shooting on occasion, but archery isn't my primary or even secondary hobby. These incredibly affordable bows are just the thing for casuals like me.
I'd been looking at the Tbow for a while because of the price point and design and now I'll get one.
Wow, that is the BEST direct copy I have ever seen. Good job China on offering the Hoyt Satori at a much better price.
Maybe main manufacturer of the satori who sells it also under his own label
Yeah wait till you shoot it. Put a welders gauntlett glove befor you shoot an roow so you dont break your wrist from the hand shock. Its junk
@@huntinglife5202 Maybe the limbs are junk, I've not tried those. I have the riser and use it with long carbon/wood KAP limbs. There is no hand shock at all, with no stab/dampening or string silencers it is surprisingly quiet.
It is a cast riser, so I'm not sure if I would recommend it at the 50lb you can order it at, but my 34lb limbs come in around 40lb on the 19" riser and it feels solid and have had no issues.
people say that the riser may even better than the original for it is machined and not cast machined, but the limbs are not good at all. People shouldn't buy this if they want to support Hoyt. But for those who can't afford a Hoyt and really dig in the looks I don't see why not. It's not right to do this but it gives the poor an option.
@@hanlin9320 I already own two Hoyt target risers, and multiple sets of Hoyt limbs, they have plenty of my money and support. I bought the TBOW riser as a fun recreational bow to take into the woods and not worry about damaging it. I'm sure it is a cast riser, not CNC machined like the original, but it's well made and plenty strong enough.
Being an owner of this bow, it is indeed amazing
Ok
When you buy the bow and then look up the reviews... stumble on this video... and feel like a genius for your wise purchase.
That is the hoyt satori??? or a copy of it.
LOL! "That's just the way life is!" Great comeback mate! Thanks for the laugh. I just ordered one of those bows. What a deal!
Based on your review I'm going to order this bow in the next week or so. Currently you can pick one up for €95 here in Germany delivered to your door. I'd say that's a great deal. Another couple of hundred euros for decent arrows an arrow rest and maybe a bow quiver and I've got a great little rig for the 3D course. Thanks for your honest reviews.
Hey Steven, I just watched your review of the TBow “Satori”. I think you are bang on with this review. I’ve been into trad archery for about a year now in order to rehab a shoulder injury. I dare not pull my 67 lbs hunting compound bow quite yet. As it happens my two favourite drawing recurves are my Hunters Niche Predator Classic 60” recurve and a close second is my TBow “Satori” with short #45 lbs Uukha Gobi limbs. My DL is 27”. Sweet drawing bows.
Working through your back catalogue of recurve now as I fancy a change from compound!
I have one and i love it. Also have a Satori. Both equal in my opinion.
I also have a Anderson lower on my AR. Some people that already bought the high dollar stuff have to ridicule the lower cost copies to justify their purchase.
Looks just like my satori..
The limb decals are almost the same as the Hoyt ones too
@@tomassjackson And the riser seems to be exactly the same, from the design of the holes to even the conic shape of the limb pockets. I'm wondering if is a knock off or Hoyt just makes the bow in China and the brand is selling the Satori renamed.
@@Buran01 I examined the Hoyt Satori in a shop and couldn´t find any difference between the two. Even the plastic or rubber coating of the tiller bolt is the same, the screw of the limb alignment (10.9), the rough surface coating, the deburring, the bevels, everything seems to be the same. But the second riser that I ordered for my brother (from China to Germany) and came in July 2019 had a different coating, now smooth, and the deburring was less accurate, but not bad. When I show the riser to my local dealers, they all say: But the material must be worse. - Al 7075!? - Don´t know, I´m shooting it with 48lbs draw weight, and I´m excited.
Love The Look Of It Steve" Mate It Was Because Of You I Bought My Black Wolf Recurve Keep these Awesome Videos Coming 🎯🏹👌
Again, nice review. One day I'm going to have to grab a recurve and try it on for size. Been 40 plus years since I shot a recurve. Just might be able to hit the inside of the range with it. Steven has the shooting the outside of the house down to a science.
Thanks for the review on this TBow! Did you find a 2 piece quiver that would fit?
Thanks .video's are spot on .I'm.looking for new bow .I never have seen the quick connect limbs .i losing my mind . thanks
I'm watching this video wanting to get into a recurve bow. I shoot compound but I want to learn the recurve. My problem is that I'm left handed. The new beginning bows here in America,left hand, start around $300 for a riser. In Southern California there are hardly any shops. Does Archery Supplies send to America or could you steer me to a good beginner bow. Love that Mybo in this review but it's a couple years old. ebay has some good used bow combination. I'm stuck. We have a great range with great instructors very close by. Help! Thank you for all your videos. Steven, keep getting better....
Thank you for a great review
Hi, I'm trying to click on the link in your description, but it's not working 😢
One hands up of ilf is less risk of stripped and loose limb bolt
Hi great review , what would be the better limbs , to adjust draw weight, down from 45lb to say 42lb or up from 40lb to 42lb with this bow , thanks
I would love to review one for you folks. Looks great.
What happened to the rest of the Obsession reviews?🤔
Will it take a fast flight strings?
You're a good salesman mate i really want one now 😂
no doubt...this vid sucks
@@mhough3 ok boomer
Potassium Cyanide ........uhh, that doesn’t make any sense. ?
The other bow called big rock isnt in your website
Whats your view on leaving bows strung for longer time frames?
If you had to take one for a "do all bow" in this price range, would you take this or the Hitman stealth hunter?
@Amjad Alali Where can i get this riser?
could a tall person like me use this with longer limbs for my 33'' draw??? no idea someone help?
I would say that at the very least you would need to buy just the riser and a separate set of long limbs
@@IMPster274 YEAH I THOUGHT MAYBE EVEN 25" RISER WITH LONG LIMBS? THANKS opps caps
Hi would this be okay length wise for someone 6"1
Hi, wich recurve bow is better top archery or junxing f165 or f167
Left handed(LH) riser available??
Just ordered it I’m from the United States wondering how long it will take to get here can’t wait
Still waiting?
auslander808 yep
What site did you order from? im looking for resellers but kind find any
auslander808 Just got it it took five weeks
its eddzski Order from the guy in the video from Australia the bow is nice powder coated sweet no blemishes
do they come with the module plate ?
I’ve had a predator hunter recurve for many years now and been looking for something to use for slinging arrows since I heard predator closed. And I think I’m sold.
Hello. Didn't really hear what the riser was made of. Steven said: " metal riser". Must be aluminum not ferrous metal. It would weigh a lot. Can any one clarify this for me? Thanks
Likely aluminum. Some risers are a magnesium alloy though.
@Amjad Alali So is this a copy of a copy? do you recommend it? can you send me link?
They only come in a 19" riser, correct me if I'm wrong
And 21" seen them on eBay !
HOYT Satori costs 800 Euro here in Germany.
Curious... since that TBow riser is, what appears to be, an exact copy of Hoyt's 19" Satori riser, does it accept Hoyt's new style grips?
i thought for a second this was some sort of early preview of the satori until i looked at video upload date .. for sure a copy by the gents in china lol
Yes I have this riser, I put my Hoyt Prodigy grip on it as I've put a Jager on that and it was spare. I prefer a high grip.
is the riser cast or machined from a billet
Cast
@@timcraft1728 7075 aluminum.
"That's just how life is"......... classic
Do they make a left hand riser
Hi Steve..... based on this review you did i had to get this bow... i am a beginner but think i might have misjudged and bought the 19 inch riser with 45 lbs limbs (when strung the bow is 60 inches) .... as a beginner it''s difficult to draw the bow.....what would be a good replacement limbs for this riser..? help........
Any limb will fit. the question is what poundage. that is really hard. I would stick with tbow limbs as it just keeps the look.
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale thanks man..I love the look of the tbow limbs too..keeping it...😎
Try getting 30lbs limb
Any chance of a LH version?🤞
will it be available in the uk if not what would the shipping costs be
Yes the website gives you various options for postage. So cost on postage depends on your choice. I would allow $50 but you save 10% on the bow.
would love it but think the import costs would make it too expensive
Buy from AliExpress China you'll pay less than £90 for the riser I'd then pair it with a decent set off ILF limbs of your choice
@@cassidyzombie4977 Whats the name of it on Aliexpress?
@@EM-fp3wi Just type in 19" ILF riser. You can get them for £65 posted at the moment.
I need a cheap compound for hunting that comes with sight rest etc. Under $450
How does this compare to the sf/wns forge? Other than the bushings for quiver, and colour. Is there much difference in how it's feels, shoots and overall build quality?
Does this mean that the bow limbs can be set and adjusted between 35 and 55 lb with just a single set of Limbs?
no each limb set will give you roughly 5 lbs increments, so you would need 5 limb sets for that range.
Do you ship to the states?
Can you sell just the riser?
I have one, but mine is branded as a Gravity Illusion, next to a friends Satori you can see what they copied :)
Where can you buy a tbow in the United States
No - I don't think it will be available.
Randy, check out Lancaster's Galaxy Sear 60"
Looks to be same bow under different name, Galaxy is Lancaster's label.
the bow in video is what looks like a nock off of the hoyt satori bow made by hoyt the galaxy sear is made by a china based company and picked up by lancaster
Comparison to the satori ?
Same thing Except you don’t get Fred Eichler’s name on it
Where can i buy this?
Fleebay but beware its shit. ive seen and shot it nothing to do with a satori but the look itself.
I think it's actually a Taow bow.
Does Hoyt know your flogging a chinese copy of the Satori ?
I just found their company it's actually Taow not Tbow lol
Is amazing how in your W&W Black Wolf review you talk about how has much better finish than the Hoyt in both the riser and the limbs and yet here you're flattering the finish of riser and limbs of a bow which is nothing but the Hoyt Satori (rebranded, because seems that as happens with some of the PSE recurves, Hoyt is outsorcing the production of the Satori in China). Talking about cognitive disonance.... But I'm not saying that the bow is bad at all (indeed, seems a nice bow and only the Hoyt bag and the better string arming is missed). I'm just saying that sometimes a product you review is portrayed as desiderable/skippable just based in which ones you have. Your reviews are truly good and extensive, but sometimes I feel that are also tainted by biass.
Buran01 the satori is made in the USA, I’ve visited the factory. The bow you’re looking at in this video was manufactured in China illegally and is most likely inferior quality.
@@dylanm8145 I think you're right (at least about the in-house made of the Satori by Hoyt). Not sure about the quality: currently some brands from USA and South Korea (as Lancaster Archery, Sammick and even Win & Win) ourtsource the crafting of part of their products from countries like china. Lancaster's Galay risers, their limbs and even some limbs from W&W are made in China. Is the iPhone a smartphone of low quality due mass produced overseas? Of couse, there's the problem of the steal of the intellectual property, but to be honest brands as Bosen and Junxing are offering some not-clone bow designs with good quality at very competitive prices.
hi mate
I want that Bow..😭
No you dont its cheap rubbish ive seen it
It's a 63" bow, not a 62" bow!
Actually it's 62 " amo measured from string groove to string groove the chows measure it different tip to tip !
I bet hoyts 🔥 lol. China has a buffalo clone and a satori clone lol keep it up china. Keep the American bow makers prices in check.
Everything is made in China now. Initially American companies 'out source' to China to build their products cheaper (sold at same price for more profit). Later China starts selling them direct to cut out the middle man.
China have zero R&D into anything and 700,000,000 people earning $2 a day. They can copy and produce stuff next to nothing.
I live a few miles from the Hoyt factory in Utah and have worked with some of their machinists........I therefore shoot PSE : )
What china company copied the hoyt bufflo ? And what is the model name
@@timcraft1728 ^ I know your comment is a year old but I'm wondering the same. I love the Hoyt Buffalo's look and the slim grip is a major plus.
Nice satori rip-off. R and D costs money so when you skip that step, yeah it’s cheaper.
Bloody hell that is a dead copy of a hoyt buffalo. For the price point you should be able to sell a ton of them
think you mean hoyt satori
Dude is charging $460 for a $250 bow, he is a rip, get it straight from china on ebay zero postage from between $188 to $250 AUD. His mark up can't be justified, it's just greed
His cost is due to the Australian exchange rate...plus this is a very old upload...
@@overwatch3950 and still you can get it on ebay cheaper, his prices are still over the top expensive, even now. You buy from his shop your getting ripped off.
@@damion9051 takes a month to get it shipped to us from china. I bought it from amazon $199 , lol. shipped in three days.
@@doncampbell1961 even better bro, this man would be buying them in multiple amounts, so his cost would be cheaper. He is ripping his customers imo
ILF BOW
Nice
But the manufacturera is the dame, junxing
$470 ? that's a very bad idea! when fired sound like a canister hit
Дмитрий Цыганенко I'm pretty sure that all recurves do until you silence the bow.
@@5jjt Silencing, getting it set up well really. Most recurves are fairly quiet.
1,000.00 Dollars?? Are you kidding ?? my goodness.
you can get the riser in the video above the hoyt satori copy for£85 in uk from china aliexpress i'd give limbs a miss and go tradtech blackmax for like $120
@@dalephillips7879 Yep. Blackmax 2.0 Wood Glass. Perfect limbs
@@dalephillips7879 Where can i get it?
Dog piss at 17:35.
Just go out and buy this bow from Steve or u can buy the exact Satori version for over 3 times the price... FYI..Hoyt Satori is made in China & Tbow is made in china...go figure😎
All those hoyt engineering is bs because you still can't dry fire it
मेरि को इङलिस नहि आता है कित्ने मे है मै मुम्बई से है
I am a bit irritated that you don‘t mention with a single word, that this is a satori clone, a cheap copy, product piracy…
A hunting bow without sight is like a blind hunter
you cant add sights to this one?
@@EM-fp3wi You can, it has the standard sight bushings.
No your the blind one , as in your total ignorance ! Shooting an aspirin in mid air I wouldn't call that blind > bloody amazing skills instinctive archery !
John Rook was a blind hunter. He killed more critters than most with the aid of a friend who helped with the aiming. RIP
pretty likely that this cheap copy will break into pieces during the shot!Well bravo money well spent and the rest of the day will be spend in hospital
Shot the dog it peed in the floor
This bow is poor quality. You should mention that to your new archers.
How do you know that? I have one of the risers and it's awesome. Never tried the limbs so can't comment on them.
Limbs yes. Riser is great
Ill bet you bought the Satori ! Im probably going to buy the Satori in a few more months. I will use this one for practice till I can . I just wanted a lower weight bow to learn on .
UGLY , Very ugly . Wood bows have a much better character , beauty , warmth , comfort and less weight on average .
17:37...i think your puppy is pupp behind you. Kill it...🙋♂️