@@flamesofchaos13Nah, it's the same as the inquisitors vlade and cal's red blade in ng+, they just changed the design of the red blade colour in this one from Fallen Order
@@SynthBro They didn't change the design as Vader's and Ninth Sister have the same Red color. However it isn't seemingly Reddish-Orange like I thought. Apparently it's a lighting issue with the game that causes it to look like so because in the areas we fight Gera and Bode there's bright lighting in white foundation...While Vader and Ninth Sister are in dim lighting in dark zones. The guide claims they're all Red blades but in gameplay there is a distinct color difference because of the lighting. It's an outright shame though as Reddish-Orange looks great and would show a difference between Sith and other Non-Sith Dark Siders. But it isn't...Though I would love if they do include in a patch or the next game a Blood Orange lightsaber as an option to use.
@@flamesofchaos13 Yes that's kinda what I meant, it's the same colour for all of them, it only appear orange - I do hope there is a different process of bleeding of some sort for the orange-bloody blades as seen in Ahsoka trailer
I feel like Cal info-dumping the fall of the Jedi Order on a guy who’s only been awake for a minute might’ve been why Dagan was able to bleed the Kyber Crystal so easily
"So those assholes who abandoned me are being hunted like dogs you say?" 'Well, I wouldn't put it like that, wait, what are you doing?' "Seeing if dog catchers are still hiring."
Whoever is writing Cal’s saga is very good at antagonists. Between Trilla in Fallen Order and Dagan in Survivor, they’re so complex and fun to play against!
i wont lie, I thought Dagan was a little bit boring. But thats probably because Im not a huge High/Old republic fan. Dont get me wrong he was still a fun and scary antagonist. Just not my cup of tea. Bode was a lot more fun and emotional for me
Trilla was too boring and predictable it honestly wasn’t until Vader got introduced in fallen order did I feel like the game actually started everything that happened before then just felt like a prologue
Dagan wakes up from thousands of years of slumber, sees a dude he has no clue about and his first priority is what’s been on his mind since going into stasis. He just bleeds a Crystal so casually.
@@SenpaiBo very confident that in this game they say what happened with dagan was 200 years before the events of the game, i could have misheard but that number is what stuck with me. And Im pretty sure the high republic is just the height of the republic, which is essentially from before the jedi began to have their downfall, so between 100 and 500 bby.
I think what makes this scene so powerful for me is how casually he bleeds his crystal, dude did it so fast Cal could barely comprehend what was going on
Whoever came up with the idea of bleeding kyber crystals is amazing. It's a great way of showing that characters don't think of themselves as evil compared to "I'm Dark Side now so my lightsaber is red"
Bleeding the crystal is so dumb... The original version being there was no red crystal, and the only way to have one was to make it synthetically sounds much more plausible
@@TheKenji2221 The Sith also made them synthetically because they could make them stronger that way. Stronger synthetic crystals were basically a trait of the power-seeking, while the natural colours were harvested naturally, showing they were more in tune.
@@TheKenji2221 Bleeding a crystal speaks way more volumes to the willingness an individual has to go down the dark path they're at. The lore around kyber crystals being bonded to the user and that the user has to effectively abuse the crystal to get it in that state, is OBJECTIVELY more compelling than just "they made unnatural crystals that were apparently stronger". Emphasis on "apparently" because let's be honest, the strength never was demonstrated in any meaningful way. I get being upset about new Canon changes, but this is a legitimately more narratively powerful lore device than what we had before.
I think both should be the case. Sith can build synthetic crystals that are compliant to their wrath and naturally red, but they can also bleed a crystal to destroy its resistance to their will. This is why Luke's lightsaber, which he made with an artificial crystal but one that he didn't need to overpower, is green.
I get that we all have different preferences, but I think bleeding kyber crystals is one of if not the best change that happened to cannon. It's such a great idea and i think emphasizes the commitment to choosing the dark side. The dark side brings pain and anger, so literally hurting your kyber to change it is awesome imo.
But what's the point other than being emo? And don't give me some harry potter wands are sentient crap, bc there's been zero evidence of that in any movie or show
@@dain6492 it’s been stated plenty of times in clone wars and other animated projects as well as in comics and books and pretty much everything else that the crystals are somewhat alive
@@methuselahh_ but what does that have to do with functionality? In harry potter the wands are weaker if they don't accept you, but a Saber is a mere tool, what is the benefit?
@@dain6492 it doesn’t have a benefit, it’s just how the crystals are. it explains how they’re able to connect to the force, which is how they even make the blade in the first place to some extent
I never thought I would ever see someone make their crystal bleed. Seeing this was just amazing. I watch the crystal with Dagan venting to Cal about what happened to tanalorr during his time and was like “holy crap, he’s making his crystal bleed!!😱😱🤯🤯” lol
@@TheRafaspartan117 I know that you didn't watched the series, just a review from one of a thousand pretentious asshole ragebaiting for views, (or watched with your ass) but FYI: Ohsa *was* a jedi. Sol's padawan, to be exact, kinda a big deal for why happened what happened.
@@badmoose01 It’s pretty much what Vader did to bleed his light saber in the comics. Channel your hate into a kyber crystal until it turns red and creates a big shockwave.
Dagan Gerra is a FANTASTIC Villain. As a diehard fan of The High Republic era, it was really interesting to see a Jedi from that era turn to the dark side. Even after being frozen in a stasis tank for over 200 years, he still hasn’t been able to escape from his emotional scars.
The next two twists were pretty sick too. With you know who and them being a you know what. I really enjoyed the story and immediately wanted more when credits rolled.
@@FroggyNight I agree. Jedi Fallen Order is great. And Jedi Survivor is AMAZING! I’m really excited to see what direction the third game will go. What do you think they should name it?
@@yetiboi472 idk if that’s even going to happen. The main guy at Respawn studios left to make his own studio and took some of the top talent with him. That’s not to say they won’t end up with the game anyways but it’s all up in the air. And idk what I’d call it. Would depend on the story. I think Cal might turn though or become a Grey Jedi.
I personally can’t keep track of what we’re officially going by now. Is it still that they are kinda sentient life? And that “bleeding” is throwing hatred and anger through the crystal and essentially corrupting it? Or is that something different?
@@미친님-y6j Play it safe, the movies shows and games have constantly retconned the books so general rule for me is its not truly going to be canon until established on screen. the books are too hard to track and there are so many, so as good as they are they never end up mattering to the people making the shows movies and games. They are pretty clear nowadays or at least try to be on what the current canon is and where it fits. right now the timeline is TPM, AOTC, the entire clone wars series, revenge of the sith, the bad batch, Solo, fallen order, the obiwan kenobi series, jedi survivor, rebels, Andor, Rogue one, ANH, ESB, ROTJ, Mando, Book of boba, eventually ahsoka and the acolyte and anything else disney announces will continue to be canon and unfortunately the sequels. And battlefront 2 campaign but that shit gets ignored so hard. Outside of that everything is ignored, even books they claim to be canon they often ignore (happened alot in the sequels), but sometimes they borrow things from legends as seen with the existence of the high republic and whatnot, so my rule of thumb now has just been until you see it on screen its nothing more than a cool story because directors are so likely to just ignore the external material because its too hard to track, and I beleive the team they have in place managing the current canon only manages material that hits the screens. All this being said, out of all those projects listed, kyber crystals are only ever shown in clone wars, rebels, rogue one, andor and the jedi games. On top of this, dagan bleeding his crystal is the very first explanation in any of these listed projects for how lightsabers are red, so bleeding crystals is the only on screen explanation for sith sabers, so that is what theyre going by officially. Anything established in any book that contradicts that is now considered legends, So as i said, even if the book stories are amazing, only consider the movies shows and games to be official canon because they are the ones they seem to actually put continuity effort into now. Once the story makes it into an on screen project, they typically dont retcon it (at least not so blatantly like switching from synthetic crystals to bled ones) so in this case, bleeding crystals made it from page to screen, now its canon.
@@미친님-y6j and yes my undesrstanding is bleeding a crystal is corrupting a crystal which are essentially living elements of the force, using hatred and rage, which metaphorically "bleeds" it draining its pure energy and replacing it with hate, turning it red as a side effect. Crystals can be purified, but they do not retain whatever colour they had and instead turn white (ahsokas sabers) although as I said before, since that explanation is from a book (which that book itself has been retconned in how ahsoka survived order 66 by the clone wars) it isnt truly part of the new canon until we see it on screen. confusing, and unfortunate, but being a film series at its core I just find it easiest to let whats on screen dictate whats canon.
4:09 - So I guess during this scene he is feeling his Crystal resisting him, so he immediately decides to bleed it. Nice little bit you can see come together on a second watch/playthrough.
its crazy that we have only ever seen kyber crystals, still to this day, exclusively outside of the main saga. Not once in any movie are they ever mentioned or shown. not even the sequels which are well after kyber crystals were established. Rogue one and andor are also the only live action star wars media to adress kyber crystals, and this game is the very first time we see a crystal be bled outside of a book. its wild that star wars is so big that this sort of thing is nearly common knowledge yet essentially never mentioned in most of its most popular media.
There was that frame in the worst Star Wars movie that showed the kyber crystal of Anakin's lightsaber when Rey and Ben struggled for it just before the Holdo Maneuver.
You're forgetting that starkiller base is literally the husk of the planet that Jedi retrieved khyber crystals from. Strip mined some for the death stars and the eclipse, turned the remnant into starkiller base. So any crystal seen there were khyber.
@@richardbrooksshnee yea but we never saw any crystals while Rey and Finn were on Ilum. Just the huge mega death laser that shoudl have burned Hux's and the entire stormtrooper regimes retinas out
Im trying to think about a time when Kyber crystals were mentioned in the 9 movies but you're right. The first time crystals were mentioned outside of books was in the clone wars arc with Ahsoka. Its weird given how impactful the jedi and sith and their lightsabers are to the whole story
@@richardbrooksshnee this isn't confirmed that Starkiller base is ilum (altho I agree it is), and is also the same as saying every lightsaber is a kyber crystal we've seen, not quite what I meant but I see where you're coming from
At least this one is better than Acolyte. Vader had to put in lot of time and effort to bleed his crystal, but showing that much would take up too much time in-game. At least her emotion is shown.
I do like this scene, however in my opinion I think some of it is a little rushed. I think there should have been more dialog between him waking up and then bleeding his crystal. Apart from that I think this scene was great. It's also the first time we've seen a kyber crystal being bled (besides from comics)
Given he was already a Fallen Jedi before the tank literally having killed multiple Jedi...His opinion and beliefs were set in stone prior to the timeskip. He just used Cal to escape and when he realizes he's a Jedi that just means he's an enemy to kill. Given that the story has another traitor faking their allegiance as well we didn't need two Fallen Jedi's pretending to be friends so just getting to the action also makes sense in gameplay terms.
I think it's better if they drag out the dialogue, just a little bit more. Using the elements like that scene in the Joker movie. Joker meets Murray. I wish they'd kept it intense like that scene and after the crystal bursts, everything fell silent and then the reveal. They could've dragged it out by letting Dagan Gera slowly talk to Cal and finding out where he and Cal stands. It'd make the scene more intense, I think. Since the audience can tell everything as we see the bigger picture while Cal is good inside and believed that he found an ally. So his naivete here was shown because he found more of his kind, just like how he released Dagan immediately without questioning the reasons why. In my opinion having that slow and long conversation between them before he turns, would have everyone biting their nails as they slowly realize what's happening.
@@Asriel_Cypher I already felt then tension and was like okay get ready Cal. It doesn't need to be slow...There are already two other characters that take on such a role in the game.
I love the fact when I was playing this game I had a playlist up of music and busy the light came up and the best dropped as soon as that pulse went off
Got to love how in any depiction of kyber crystal bleeding a big surge of energy happens but in the acolyte it just goes schoop there it red now even vader one of the strongest force users ever had a vision of him turning back and almost did but again nothing like that in the acolyte
This went from 0 to 100 so fast I've got whiplash 😂 So good to actually see a crystal get bled in motion, and even better with context from comics on how traumatic the experience can be
Well there are different factors tho right. This is a high republic jedi their experience in the field are far greater than Vader's time. But it's also worth noting that Vader knew that he was evil for doing what he did. He knew that he was wrong and that's what conflicted his Anakin part. He knew he was doing something wrong but the pain the hurt everything was clouding him from being good again. And he knew it, the greatest battle in that scene was with himself not with bleeding his own crystal. With Dagan on the other hand he thought he was doing good. He wanted his revenge on the order, and just wanted to do what he wants, he was a self righteous evil type of character where he thought he was the hero. That's why it was easier for him, there was no conflict or doubt just pure rage and hate
That's because that's not how crystals work. You can't bleed a crystal. You CAN however use a natural red crystal (And good luck with that because those are rare) or make a synthetic crystal
@@MrWill9002 I recommend checking the early Darth Vader comics - in the new canon, Kyber Crystals (what lightsaber crystals are called now) are living things and are innately aligned with the Light Side. To create a red Kyber Crystal - one aligned with the Dark Side - one must channel all of their hatred, rage, etc into it, which causes it to 'bleed'. Vader got his red lightsaber crystal by killing a Jedi Master and bleeding his crystal, which was much more interesting than just making a synthetic one in a furnace, I think.
@@spaceonisorceress4406 Still bullshit and you know it. In the true canon, Sith use SYNTHETIC crystals because they work much better with the Dark Side. Besides, the Sith have to work in the shadows. This 'bleeding the crystal' crap is just another way of Disney treating people like their idiots.
@@spaceonisorceress4406 Besides, Palpatine provided the synthetic crystals. And you're 100% wrong. It's not interesting at the slightest. It's too soon since REMEMBER: Vader's still getting used to his armor and cybernetic limbs so there's no way in heaven or HELL he can kill a Jedi easily like he did in that bullshit comic
I found this scene strange, bro wakes up, realised he was betrayed, decides to turn to dark side, first order of business... "gotta look the part" - bleed the crystal... Like it was cool, but, surely there was more important first things to do.
This was an addition to Star Wars I applaud Disney/comic book writers integrating into the franchise; bleeding a crystal feels so much more personal than simply making a synthetic crystal, this is more visceral and personal, pouring rage and pain into the crystal
I mean Cal is regular do-gooder boy-scout Jedi tho; you can tell how quickly he started panicking when Dagan started revealing the story, and the moment the crystal was bled he ignited his lightsaber ready for battle. None of the signs are telling Dagan that this Jedi will be receptive to his motivations lol
I have a feeling that he had a lot of time to build up that anger, and the hurt from that betrayal he fed it all into that crystal and all of his pain his anger his hate all of it and since it was already his Khyber I don't think there was much need for him to force it as much since it already had a bond. Unlike one say took from a Jedi they'd slain
@@KenshiImmortalWolf Sith usually kill a jedi to steal their crystal and bleed it. Since this was his own crystal maybe it didn't resist him because he was already attuned to it.
This is intense he bled his own crystal this was basically a part of him and he corrupted it this to me was one of the most powerful scenes in the game
Its such a shame to see that crystal go red. Golden sabers are my favorite, and seeing it get corrupted is sad. But man is it a good scene. Very well done.
I hate for how sudden and premature it was for Osha bleeding Sal's lightsaber red. It's now bringing this example into question. I kinda liked how they showed this in acolyte. But now it has mfs like Star Wars theory saying and demanding how difficult it was for Vader to bleed his lighsaber, it should be difficult for every Sith to turn their lightsaber red
@@MRbug_423 One of the reasons the kyber bleeding nonsense is so stupid is it literally requires a Sith apprentice to kill a Jedi to steal the crystal from their lightsaber, since the Jedi control the only natural source of the crystals -- Ilum. So now we are led to believe that every 30-ish years, a Jedi is killed or "just disappears" with no explanation? Given that the Sith were undiscovered for 1000 years, and the Old/High Republic eras were supposed to be an era of peace in the galaxy, this doesn't fly with an estimated 30-40 Jedi deaths under suspicious circumstances where either their kyber or their entire lightsaber was nowhere to be found. It also doesn't fly with Anakin fucking Skywalker literally killing dozens, if not hundreds of Jedi at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, including the slaughter of children, the cold-blooded murder of the Separatist leaders on Mustafar and his all-consuming rage when Obi-Wan confronted him. His saber would have bled under those circumstances by Disney doctrine. It's perfectly reasonable for people to call out the bs when it is presented. Or are we only allowed to be Star Wars fans if we accept it all without question and declare that Disney is the best thing to ever happen to the franchise?
@@twinodoom it's like power. If a section of air is all of a sudden gone, what happens? More air flows to the voided space. Treat the kyber crystal as such. Dagan siphoned it hard, and in doing so, it tried to make up for the loss of power. As for that blast that Cal got to his face, it was the kyber crystal saying enough as the void was filled at a rapid rate when Dagan was sated with his restoration
The fact that he bled his crystal so effortlessly and quickly during a conversation is crazy. For those who dont know, bleeding a crystal takes intense concentration and requires you to focus all your hate and rage into the crystal. Doing so corrupts the crystal and sore of bend it to your will, turning it red. The process doesn't happen in seconds, but i get why they did it. To speed uo the gameplay
idk, it made sense to me because Vader was pretty conflicted, meanwhile this guy was simmering with his own anger and reliving the trauma of losing his planet on repeat in a bacta tank for 200 years.
Being for real he would actually make a deadly inquisitor a Jedi master level threat. That Cal couldn’t even beat him without using a trick to catch them off guard and jumping him.
I think that's because it's his crystal which is tied and connected to Dagen so it bleeding easily is because the crystal was his. The reason why others had a hard time bleeding their crystal like Vader and Kylo Ren was that their crystals were not theirs so it took more effort.
The difficulty varies on the crystal and if the character is conflicted with light side or not. Ben Solo’s experience wasn’t too hard, he just let out a scream and it hurt his hand a bit. Vader’s crystal sent him flying backwards into a wall and gave him visions of him killing the Emperor and finding Obi-Wan to beg for his forgiveness.
The game tells us about his and Rayvis’ team up before we see them interact. Dagan says “My duel with the Gen’dai didn’t take this long.” That’s the name of Rayvis’ species, implying they had been aligned a lot longer than anyone knew.
"It was my home and they just expected me to throw it away." While I don't agree with Dagan, the raw pain in his voice makes me sympathize with him. Imagine building your dream home for decades, spending all these resources to make your dream a reality, and then your boss tells you to move to another state for your job. I can totally see why he would snap after everything that happened.
I’m interested in Cal’s reaction to the bleeding process. His anger and disbelief. Back in fallen order, he can feel the pain of the kyber crystals on Ilum being harvested, but here he doesn’t just see one in pain, but it’s complete and total forced subjugation to Dagan’s will. It must have felt painful
I think what was happening subconscious, Cal was influenced by the Darkside because what the dark jebi did with the kyber crystal, Cal angry was a reaction to the Darkside, not dark Jebi.
@@HenryLouis21 It was. Bleeding was never mentioned in any of the movies, it was primarily the comics and the legends comics that have bleeding. In the new cannon Jedi Survivor has been the first time in a long time that we have had even mention of bleeding not to mention seeing the process.
@@gmaerliadgh no, Legends canon originally had the red crystals being artificial. Luke discovered a way of creating other colors artificially as well just before meeting Jabba, this bleeding the crystals is Disney-SW for the sequels
I knew he was going to be a villain, and I was really expecting his lightsaber to already be red when he first ignited it. When i saw it was yellow, I was actually excited for another jedi to be included and my expectations to be subverted, but was a little disappointed when a moment later he bled the crystal
I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is one of the few times were the new canon makes waaaay more sense than the old canon. In the old canon, the reason for dark side users using red lightsabers was because they almost always used synthetic lightsaber crystals and somehow these synthetic crystals being "stronger but more unstable." Which even as a kid, I kind of felt "Meh" about that. But establishing that even sith lightabers are powered by kyber crystals, just corrupted ones, makes it make sense that only dark side users would use them because they are the only ones depraved enough to corrupt a kyber crystal like that. The lightside equivalent of cleansing corrupted kyber crystals to make white lightsabers was also a nice addition imo
Cal and Anakin had more rage and deeper mourning than Osha from SW Acolyte, yet their sabers never bled. Both even used the Darkside of the Force more than once (more than trice even).
I was on DeganGera’s side from the start when I saw his character introduced His back story made sense , it added up & after the Jedi order betrayed him he gained a realistic out look on the Star Wars galaxy from there 🤷🏾♂️✅. #JediSurvivor #StarWarsFan
One thing i love about the bleeding is that it almost seems like a compulsion. Kyber Crystals are naturally aligned to the light side so performing dark side acts and dwellong on darkness causes them to suffer. Its almost like you cant stand the screminf and pleading of your crystal so you force it into submission to shut it up.
Actually true. Obi-Wan didn’t kill Anakin when he lost an arm and Luke didn’t kill him either. But Anakins did kill Dooku so I guess if you lose both arms you’re free game.
@@knightatyourservice7512 agree, but at least it was not like just flipping a switch while the sabre is on like on the show and then be called a racist when pointing it out how silly it looks
That's the point. A bled crystal is in pain, it's been traumatized by hate and anger. It's now the perfect focus for a Sith/Dark Jedi who is in as much pain as the crystal. They harmonize and reflect each other's pain back at one another, building and seething like an open festering wound.
I understand that it was shown to be fast for dramatic effect. Bleeding (retuning) crystals was first introduced well before Disney took over and is not new. Tuning crystals was done in SWG twenty years ago.
Well I looked it up and the bleeding first appeared in Darth Vader 2017 5 that was written by Charles Soule. Or are refering to something else I missed?
![EVERY SINGLE Lightsaber Crystal Explained [Canon + Legends]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/h6yM6ibNl4k/mqdefault.jpg)
Love how my man woke up after the worst day of his life and a minute later basically decided, "This might as well happen."
Dude literally woke up and chose violence.
Couldn’t even walk, but still decided to go on a war path.
Bruh woke up and said, imma just make a lightsabe real quick
i saw it more as that his body was weak and needed to draw on his anger and bring his crystal intune with it to bring him back to strength
in star wars lore the crystal was intune with its user always
I'm so freaking happy that we finally got to see a Force-sensitive individual bleed a kyber crystal outside of the comics and novels.
Also like the color not being pure red but reddish-orange.
Edit: It's Red just the lighting in the game gets weird and changes the hue of blades.
@@flamesofchaos13Nah, it's the same as the inquisitors vlade and cal's red blade in ng+, they just changed the design of the red blade colour in this one from Fallen Order
@@SynthBro They didn't change the design as Vader's and Ninth Sister have the same Red color. However it isn't seemingly Reddish-Orange like I thought. Apparently it's a lighting issue with the game that causes it to look like so because in the areas we fight Gera and Bode there's bright lighting in white foundation...While Vader and Ninth Sister are in dim lighting in dark zones. The guide claims they're all Red blades but in gameplay there is a distinct color difference because of the lighting.
It's an outright shame though as Reddish-Orange looks great and would show a difference between Sith and other Non-Sith Dark Siders. But it isn't...Though I would love if they do include in a patch or the next game a Blood Orange lightsaber as an option to use.
@@flamesofchaos13 Yes that's kinda what I meant, it's the same colour for all of them, it only appear orange - I do hope there is a different process of bleeding of some sort for the orange-bloody blades as seen in Ahsoka trailer
@@flamesofchaos13 Right, but htey confirmed that Orange sabers do exist in canon, and not the Fools Kyber type of orange.
I feel like Cal info-dumping the fall of the Jedi Order on a guy who’s only been awake for a minute might’ve been why Dagan was able to bleed the Kyber Crystal so easily
Yeah coma patients don't tend to take the news of their absence well, especially not those stuck for so long
Only 1000 different and better ways to handle this guy's first 10 seconds of consciousness
Was a huge oversight on cal's part but he's not rly well-versed w words or timing
@@Xeo_A Yet he still managed to bag Merrin.
@@astoraan6071 idk how that was even possible
>Wake up
>Immediately bleed kyber crystal
>refuse to elaborate
>leave
*dies
egg
He very much did elaborate though, he went on quite the rant
@@KIWI_DUDE. He was asked too
"So those assholes who abandoned me are being hunted like dogs you say?"
'Well, I wouldn't put it like that, wait, what are you doing?'
"Seeing if dog catchers are still hiring."
"Dude stop, there's like hardly any of us left."
"Then I might get paid more for it."
Ok this got chuckle out of me congrats
Whoever is writing Cal’s saga is very good at antagonists. Between Trilla in Fallen Order and Dagan in Survivor, they’re so complex and fun to play against!
And that other guy too
i wont lie, I thought Dagan was a little bit boring. But thats probably because Im not a huge High/Old republic fan. Dont get me wrong he was still a fun and scary antagonist. Just not my cup of tea. Bode was a lot more fun and emotional for me
@@callumrangan1061 I think it's because of how little there was tbh
you meet him, now he's evil, you dont really.. do much else afaik
Trilla was too boring and predictable it honestly wasn’t until Vader got introduced in fallen order did I feel like the game actually started everything that happened before then just felt like a prologue
@@Justin-AL feels like more of a you problem
Bleeding a crystal mid conversation is wild.
"WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!"
"Bro, it's just a re-skin, calm your tits, maaan."
My guy didnt wanna pay 4.99 for the "Sith Lightsaber Skinpack"
Accurate, this is an EA game, after all
Dagan wakes up from thousands of years of slumber, sees a dude he has no clue about and his first priority is what’s been on his mind since going into stasis. He just bleeds a Crystal so casually.
Hundreds actually. And that makes a difference considering how long ago the old republic era is
@@imperious8905 high republic events take place 500 years before skywalker story right?
Probably like 300 years
@@imperious8905 oh yeah I got old republic and high republic mixed up
@@SenpaiBo very confident that in this game they say what happened with dagan was 200 years before the events of the game, i could have misheard but that number is what stuck with me. And Im pretty sure the high republic is just the height of the republic, which is essentially from before the jedi began to have their downfall, so between 100 and 500 bby.
I think what makes this scene so powerful for me is how casually he bleeds his crystal, dude did it so fast Cal could barely comprehend what was going on
Whoever came up with the idea of bleeding kyber crystals is amazing.
It's a great way of showing that characters don't think of themselves as evil compared to "I'm Dark Side now so my lightsaber is red"
Even though that IS a deliberate act of making it red because they are evil. Ok. Sure.*
*Sarcasm
Bleeding the crystal is so dumb... The original version being there was no red crystal, and the only way to have one was to make it synthetically sounds much more plausible
@@TheKenji2221 The Sith also made them synthetically because they could make them stronger that way. Stronger synthetic crystals were basically a trait of the power-seeking, while the natural colours were harvested naturally, showing they were more in tune.
@@TheKenji2221 Bleeding a crystal speaks way more volumes to the willingness an individual has to go down the dark path they're at. The lore around kyber crystals being bonded to the user and that the user has to effectively abuse the crystal to get it in that state, is OBJECTIVELY more compelling than just "they made unnatural crystals that were apparently stronger".
Emphasis on "apparently" because let's be honest, the strength never was demonstrated in any meaningful way.
I get being upset about new Canon changes, but this is a legitimately more narratively powerful lore device than what we had before.
I think both should be the case. Sith can build synthetic crystals that are compliant to their wrath and naturally red, but they can also bleed a crystal to destroy its resistance to their will. This is why Luke's lightsaber, which he made with an artificial crystal but one that he didn't need to overpower, is green.
I get that we all have different preferences, but I think bleeding kyber crystals is one of if not the best change that happened to cannon. It's such a great idea and i think emphasizes the commitment to choosing the dark side. The dark side brings pain and anger, so literally hurting your kyber to change it is awesome imo.
fr, synthetic crystals always seemed lame to me
But what's the point other than being emo? And don't give me some harry potter wands are sentient crap, bc there's been zero evidence of that in any movie or show
@@dain6492 it’s been stated plenty of times in clone wars and other animated projects as well as in comics and books and pretty much everything else that the crystals are somewhat alive
@@methuselahh_ but what does that have to do with functionality? In harry potter the wands are weaker if they don't accept you, but a Saber is a mere tool, what is the benefit?
@@dain6492 it doesn’t have a benefit, it’s just how the crystals are. it explains how they’re able to connect to the force, which is how they even make the blade in the first place to some extent
Now I want to see a purification scene where someone makes a white crystal
I never thought I would ever see someone make their crystal bleed. Seeing this was just amazing. I watch the crystal with Dagan venting to Cal about what happened to tanalorr during his time and was like “holy crap, he’s making his crystal bleed!!😱😱🤯🤯” lol
Same, I saw it happening and it flashed through my head (horrified look on my face) " he's bleeding the crystal".
i dont get how people get all excited about this bleeding the crystal thing, its so childish, like a mood ring crystal
@@DarkGott15someone who never really used the force, just bled a crystal. In this thing abomination called the acolyte.
@@TheRafaspartan117 I know that you didn't watched the series, just a review from one of a thousand pretentious asshole ragebaiting for views, (or watched with your ass) but FYI: Ohsa *was* a jedi. Sol's padawan, to be exact, kinda a big deal for why happened what happened.
Really cool to actually see the first time the bleeding process in action, not just in comic book pages.
I was hoping for it to be more exciting. It literally just changes color.
@@badmoose01 And releases a shockwave at the end.
@@badmoose01 It’s pretty much what Vader did to bleed his light saber in the comics. Channel your hate into a kyber crystal until it turns red and creates a big shockwave.
Dagan Gerra is a FANTASTIC Villain. As a diehard fan of The High Republic era, it was really interesting to see a Jedi from that era turn to the dark side. Even after being frozen in a stasis tank for over 200 years, he still hasn’t been able to escape from his emotional scars.
The next two twists were pretty sick too. With you know who and them being a you know what. I really enjoyed the story and immediately wanted more when credits rolled.
@@FroggyNight I agree. Jedi Fallen Order is great. And Jedi Survivor is AMAZING! I’m really excited to see what direction the third game will go. What do you think they should name it?
@@yetiboi472 idk if that’s even going to happen. The main guy at Respawn studios left to make his own studio and took some of the top talent with him. That’s not to say they won’t end up with the game anyways but it’s all up in the air.
And idk what I’d call it. Would depend on the story. I think Cal might turn though or become a Grey Jedi.
I liked when Degan was released from the bacta you got a section where he sounded something like Darth Vader breathing through the bacta mask.
I never thought watching that crystal bleeding would make my skin absolutely crawl, it felt raw and wrong which is absolutely incredible
Im a big kegends fan and personally i think bleeding crystals is far cooler than them being synthetic, to each their own, and so crying please
I personally can’t keep track of what we’re officially going by now. Is it still that they are kinda sentient life? And that “bleeding” is throwing hatred and anger through the crystal and essentially corrupting it? Or is that something different?
i thought there was both
Sith used synthetic because they didnt have access to kyber crystals but dark jedi just bled the ones they had.
agreed
@@미친님-y6j Play it safe, the movies shows and games have constantly retconned the books so general rule for me is its not truly going to be canon until established on screen. the books are too hard to track and there are so many, so as good as they are they never end up mattering to the people making the shows movies and games. They are pretty clear nowadays or at least try to be on what the current canon is and where it fits. right now the timeline is TPM, AOTC, the entire clone wars series, revenge of the sith, the bad batch, Solo, fallen order, the obiwan kenobi series, jedi survivor, rebels, Andor, Rogue one, ANH, ESB, ROTJ, Mando, Book of boba, eventually ahsoka and the acolyte and anything else disney announces will continue to be canon and unfortunately the sequels. And battlefront 2 campaign but that shit gets ignored so hard. Outside of that everything is ignored, even books they claim to be canon they often ignore (happened alot in the sequels), but sometimes they borrow things from legends as seen with the existence of the high republic and whatnot, so my rule of thumb now has just been until you see it on screen its nothing more than a cool story because directors are so likely to just ignore the external material because its too hard to track, and I beleive the team they have in place managing the current canon only manages material that hits the screens. All this being said, out of all those projects listed, kyber crystals are only ever shown in clone wars, rebels, rogue one, andor and the jedi games. On top of this, dagan bleeding his crystal is the very first explanation in any of these listed projects for how lightsabers are red, so bleeding crystals is the only on screen explanation for sith sabers, so that is what theyre going by officially. Anything established in any book that contradicts that is now considered legends, So as i said, even if the book stories are amazing, only consider the movies shows and games to be official canon because they are the ones they seem to actually put continuity effort into now. Once the story makes it into an on screen project, they typically dont retcon it (at least not so blatantly like switching from synthetic crystals to bled ones) so in this case, bleeding crystals made it from page to screen, now its canon.
@@미친님-y6j and yes my undesrstanding is bleeding a crystal is corrupting a crystal which are essentially living elements of the force, using hatred and rage, which metaphorically "bleeds" it draining its pure energy and replacing it with hate, turning it red as a side effect. Crystals can be purified, but they do not retain whatever colour they had and instead turn white (ahsokas sabers) although as I said before, since that explanation is from a book (which that book itself has been retconned in how ahsoka survived order 66 by the clone wars) it isnt truly part of the new canon until we see it on screen. confusing, and unfortunate, but being a film series at its core I just find it easiest to let whats on screen dictate whats canon.
4:09 - So I guess during this scene he is feeling his Crystal resisting him, so he immediately decides to bleed it. Nice little bit you can see come together on a second watch/playthrough.
Dagan woke up and chose violence.
its crazy that we have only ever seen kyber crystals, still to this day, exclusively outside of the main saga. Not once in any movie are they ever mentioned or shown. not even the sequels which are well after kyber crystals were established. Rogue one and andor are also the only live action star wars media to adress kyber crystals, and this game is the very first time we see a crystal be bled outside of a book. its wild that star wars is so big that this sort of thing is nearly common knowledge yet essentially never mentioned in most of its most popular media.
There was that frame in the worst Star Wars movie that showed the kyber crystal of Anakin's lightsaber when Rey and Ben struggled for it just before the Holdo Maneuver.
You're forgetting that starkiller base is literally the husk of the planet that Jedi retrieved khyber crystals from. Strip mined some for the death stars and the eclipse, turned the remnant into starkiller base. So any crystal seen there were khyber.
@@richardbrooksshnee yea but we never saw any crystals while Rey and Finn were on Ilum. Just the huge mega death laser that shoudl have burned Hux's and the entire stormtrooper regimes retinas out
Im trying to think about a time when Kyber crystals were mentioned in the 9 movies but you're right. The first time crystals were mentioned outside of books was in the clone wars arc with Ahsoka. Its weird given how impactful the jedi and sith and their lightsabers are to the whole story
@@richardbrooksshnee this isn't confirmed that Starkiller base is ilum (altho I agree it is), and is also the same as saying every lightsaber is a kyber crystal we've seen, not quite what I meant but I see where you're coming from
Got this suggested after Acolyte Lmao
lol at least there was emotion in this scene
At least this one is better than Acolyte. Vader had to put in lot of time and effort to bleed his crystal, but showing that much would take up too much time in-game. At least her emotion is shown.
Acolyte? More like Bag-o-shite.
@@sirpepeofhousekek6741yet this game is praised for also bleeding a crystal?
I do like this scene, however in my opinion I think some of it is a little rushed. I think there should have been more dialog between him waking up and then bleeding his crystal. Apart from that I think this scene was great. It's also the first time we've seen a kyber crystal being bled (besides from comics)
Its not like he has much to think about he was frozen in anger
Given he was already a Fallen Jedi before the tank literally having killed multiple Jedi...His opinion and beliefs were set in stone prior to the timeskip. He just used Cal to escape and when he realizes he's a Jedi that just means he's an enemy to kill.
Given that the story has another traitor faking their allegiance as well we didn't need two Fallen Jedi's pretending to be friends so just getting to the action also makes sense in gameplay terms.
You can tell they really wanted to do more with Dagan but the game was long enough already
I think it's better if they drag out the dialogue, just a little bit more. Using the elements like that scene in the Joker movie. Joker meets Murray. I wish they'd kept it intense like that scene and after the crystal bursts, everything fell silent and then the reveal. They could've dragged it out by letting Dagan Gera slowly talk to Cal and finding out where he and Cal stands. It'd make the scene more intense, I think. Since the audience can tell everything as we see the bigger picture while Cal is good inside and believed that he found an ally. So his naivete here was shown because he found more of his kind, just like how he released Dagan immediately without questioning the reasons why. In my opinion having that slow and long conversation between them before he turns, would have everyone biting their nails as they slowly realize what's happening.
@@Asriel_Cypher I already felt then tension and was like okay get ready Cal. It doesn't need to be slow...There are already two other characters that take on such a role in the game.
I love the fact when I was playing this game I had a playlist up of music and busy the light came up and the best dropped as soon as that pulse went off
Got to love how in any depiction of kyber crystal bleeding a big surge of energy happens but in the acolyte it just goes schoop there it red now even vader one of the strongest force users ever had a vision of him turning back and almost did but again nothing like that in the acolyte
but there WAS a big surge of energy, you blind hater. The lightsaber ignited.
Man woke up and chose violence
This went from 0 to 100 so fast I've got whiplash 😂
So good to actually see a crystal get bled in motion, and even better with context from comics on how traumatic the experience can be
Made it look easy compared to Vader doing it. What a Chad.
Well there are different factors tho right. This is a high republic jedi their experience in the field are far greater than Vader's time.
But it's also worth noting that Vader knew that he was evil for doing what he did. He knew that he was wrong and that's what conflicted his Anakin part. He knew he was doing something wrong but the pain the hurt everything was clouding him from being good again. And he knew it, the greatest battle in that scene was with himself not with bleeding his own crystal.
With Dagan on the other hand he thought he was doing good. He wanted his revenge on the order, and just wanted to do what he wants, he was a self righteous evil type of character where he thought he was the hero. That's why it was easier for him, there was no conflict or doubt just pure rage and hate
That's because that's not how crystals work. You can't bleed a crystal. You CAN however use a natural red crystal (And good luck with that because those are rare) or make a synthetic crystal
@@MrWill9002 I recommend checking the early Darth Vader comics - in the new canon, Kyber Crystals (what lightsaber crystals are called now) are living things and are innately aligned with the Light Side. To create a red Kyber Crystal - one aligned with the Dark Side - one must channel all of their hatred, rage, etc into it, which causes it to 'bleed'.
Vader got his red lightsaber crystal by killing a Jedi Master and bleeding his crystal, which was much more interesting than just making a synthetic one in a furnace, I think.
@@spaceonisorceress4406 Still bullshit and you know it. In the true canon, Sith use SYNTHETIC crystals because they work much better with the Dark Side. Besides, the Sith have to work in the shadows. This 'bleeding the crystal' crap is just another way of Disney treating people like their idiots.
@@spaceonisorceress4406 Besides, Palpatine provided the synthetic crystals. And you're 100% wrong. It's not interesting at the slightest. It's too soon since REMEMBER: Vader's still getting used to his armor and cybernetic limbs so there's no way in heaven or HELL he can kill a Jedi easily like he did in that bullshit comic
At first I wasn't sold on the bleeding crystals but this scene won me over
I found this scene strange, bro wakes up, realised he was betrayed, decides to turn to dark side, first order of business... "gotta look the part" - bleed the crystal... Like it was cool, but, surely there was more important first things to do.
Dagan really pulled a "If you can't beat them, join em"
The Acolyte wishes
This crystal-bleed was so much better than the "Acolyte" one. This actually had gravity.
This was an addition to Star Wars I applaud Disney/comic book writers integrating into the franchise; bleeding a crystal feels so much more personal than simply making a synthetic crystal, this is more visceral and personal, pouring rage and pain into the crystal
No it's not. It's fucking cringe as hell.
@@Tacti_cat how so?
I wish Dagan was open to being on Cals side
He probably knew that he was too deep in the Jedi to begin with.
Either that, or his obsession, drove him insane.
One word: hubris
Yeah, because they really don't have a reason to be enemies.
@@hordakprime6172 Like I said, hubris.
I mean Cal is regular do-gooder boy-scout Jedi tho; you can tell how quickly he started panicking when Dagan started revealing the story, and the moment the crystal was bled he ignited his lightsaber ready for battle. None of the signs are telling Dagan that this Jedi will be receptive to his motivations lol
I am kind of surprised the bleeding process is as far as it is, I was expecting it to take a good bit longer.
To be fair, he got 200 years of bottled up anger, so he got plenty.
@@jaderabbit898 true i just remember hearing that crystals typically resist being bled and it can take awhile. Plus the fact he just knew how.
@@KenshiImmortalWolf As for the lsat part, maybe he knew of the methods but never attempted himself until what happened after Tanalorr?
I have a feeling that he had a lot of time to build up that anger, and the hurt from that betrayal he fed it all into that crystal and all of his pain his anger his hate all of it and since it was already his Khyber I don't think there was much need for him to force it as much since it already had a bond. Unlike one say took from a Jedi they'd slain
@@KenshiImmortalWolf Sith usually kill a jedi to steal their crystal and bleed it. Since this was his own crystal maybe it didn't resist him because he was already attuned to it.
I honestly think that along with these games being amazing, I think they are also near enough Cinematic Masterpieces!
This is intense he bled his own crystal this was basically a part of him and he corrupted it this to me was one of the most powerful scenes in the game
Its such a shame to see that crystal go red. Golden sabers are my favorite, and seeing it get corrupted is sad. But man is it a good scene. Very well done.
Here after Osha did the same thing lol
Same 😂
I hate for how sudden and premature it was for Osha bleeding Sal's lightsaber red.
It's now bringing this example into question.
I kinda liked how they showed this in acolyte. But now it has mfs like Star Wars theory saying and demanding how difficult it was for Vader to bleed his lighsaber, it should be difficult for every Sith to turn their lightsaber red
@@MRbug_423 One of the reasons the kyber bleeding nonsense is so stupid is it literally requires a Sith apprentice to kill a Jedi to steal the crystal from their lightsaber, since the Jedi control the only natural source of the crystals -- Ilum. So now we are led to believe that every 30-ish years, a Jedi is killed or "just disappears" with no explanation? Given that the Sith were undiscovered for 1000 years, and the Old/High Republic eras were supposed to be an era of peace in the galaxy, this doesn't fly with an estimated 30-40 Jedi deaths under suspicious circumstances where either their kyber or their entire lightsaber was nowhere to be found.
It also doesn't fly with Anakin fucking Skywalker literally killing dozens, if not hundreds of Jedi at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, including the slaughter of children, the cold-blooded murder of the Separatist leaders on Mustafar and his all-consuming rage when Obi-Wan confronted him. His saber would have bled under those circumstances by Disney doctrine. It's perfectly reasonable for people to call out the bs when it is presented.
Or are we only allowed to be Star Wars fans if we accept it all without question and declare that Disney is the best thing to ever happen to the franchise?
Look at the acolyte 🤣🤣🤣
And all osha needed was to touch it whilst angry
Yes that is how Dagan did it too.
@@cobra3094 bruh, he put in force into it 🤦♂
@@55rz55She used the Force too. It was unvoluntary but It was the same.
5:36 ....i think some dialogue was cut here because its almost as if dagan answered cal (lip movement)
People watching the acolyte were going wtf you can't bleed a crystal its breaking canon
me:
i've seen it before
Me: I’ve read of such things before
Same.LOL!
Some people got excited to see it in live action on The Acolyte
It was kinda hilarious.
"I'M EVIL NOW! ITS NOT A PHASE, DAD!"
I love the idea of bleeding crystals, I don't know why people are so angry at those little retcons
Its stealing power from The Force
@@lumberluc
I don't see how. Bleeding crystals is essentially just corrupting a natural Lightsaber Crystal to turn it to the Dark Side of the Force.
@@twinodoom it's like power. If a section of air is all of a sudden gone, what happens? More air flows to the voided space.
Treat the kyber crystal as such. Dagan siphoned it hard, and in doing so, it tried to make up for the loss of power.
As for that blast that Cal got to his face, it was the kyber crystal saying enough as the void was filled at a rapid rate when Dagan was sated with his restoration
@@lumberluc
When the Crystal was forced out the natural Light, Dagan's Anger and Hate replaced it with power from the Dark Side of the Force.
@@twinodoom Oh, then a recycle? That's something
The fact that he bled his crystal so effortlessly and quickly during a conversation is crazy. For those who dont know, bleeding a crystal takes intense concentration and requires you to focus all your hate and rage into the crystal. Doing so corrupts the crystal and sore of bend it to your will, turning it red. The process doesn't happen in seconds, but i get why they did it. To speed uo the gameplay
idk, it made sense to me because Vader was pretty conflicted, meanwhile this guy was simmering with his own anger and reliving the trauma of losing his planet on repeat in a bacta tank for 200 years.
If Sidious sees this: "Ehehehhehehehehehe, good, good, late the hate flow through you. You will be far more useful for me as my Inquisitor."
And then Lois Griffin shoves him down and says "You're not helping!"
Being for real he would actually make a deadly inquisitor a Jedi master level threat. That Cal couldn’t even beat him without using a trick to catch them off guard and jumping him.
Is no one going to talk about how an entire armada fleet appears and he just goes into lightsaber mode like “I’m ready to take all of you guys “
THIS is how you turn Lightsabers red
My stupid ass read this as Breeding kyber crystal.
He bled the crystal so easily
I think that's because it's his crystal which is tied and connected to Dagen so it bleeding easily is because the crystal was his. The reason why others had a hard time bleeding their crystal like Vader and Kylo Ren was that their crystals were not theirs so it took more effort.
@@HenryLouis21 i kinda think he probably bled many crystals back in his time.
@@therealajzaini It was hundreds of years ago when the Sith were presumed dead and he was a full Jedi. I doubt he bled any crystals at all.
@@HenryLouis21 all the more reason to Bleed it in secret? Who knows. He's such a Goat for bleeding it very easily tho.
The difficulty varies on the crystal and if the character is conflicted with light side or not.
Ben Solo’s experience wasn’t too hard, he just let out a scream and it hurt his hand a bit.
Vader’s crystal sent him flying backwards into a wall and gave him visions of him killing the Emperor and finding Obi-Wan to beg for his forgiveness.
My favorite part was playing this scene with my own sith red lightsaber being like "what have you done" "same as you apparently"
Love how they retconned this almost immediately
I loved this scene. So much.
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If he didn't turn he could be a powerful ally or simply drift away saying he's nothing more he do.
The game tells us about his and Rayvis’ team up before we see them interact. Dagan says “My duel with the Gen’dai didn’t take this long.” That’s the name of Rayvis’ species, implying they had been aligned a lot longer than anyone knew.
This is like watching a Greek tragedy.
Far more believable than the acolyte. Took me forever to bleed mine
No it was believable in The Acolyte as well
"It was my home and they just expected me to throw it away." While I don't agree with Dagan, the raw pain in his voice makes me sympathize with him. Imagine building your dream home for decades, spending all these resources to make your dream a reality, and then your boss tells you to move to another state for your job. I can totally see why he would snap after everything that happened.
"What have you done???"
I changed the color of my Saber, BFD.
I’m interested in Cal’s reaction to the bleeding process. His anger and disbelief. Back in fallen order, he can feel the pain of the kyber crystals on Ilum being harvested, but here he doesn’t just see one in pain, but it’s complete and total forced subjugation to Dagan’s will. It must have felt painful
I think what was happening subconscious, Cal was influenced by the Darkside because what the dark jebi did with the kyber crystal, Cal angry was a reaction to the Darkside, not dark Jebi.
So glad that the bleeding wasnt thrown away, when they made the comics non cannon I thought crystal bleeding would be scrapped to. Thank god it wasnt.
Kyber Crystal bleeding is a new concept in the new canon, it wasn't a thing in the old legends canon.
@@HenryLouis21 It was. Bleeding was never mentioned in any of the movies, it was primarily the comics and the legends comics that have bleeding. In the new cannon Jedi Survivor has been the first time in a long time that we have had even mention of bleeding not to mention seeing the process.
@@gmaerliadgh no, Legends canon originally had the red crystals being artificial. Luke discovered a way of creating other colors artificially as well just before meeting Jabba, this bleeding the crystals is Disney-SW for the sequels
The Bleeding was made by Disney specifically because they threw-away the synthetc crystal idea.
@@Alizudo good because the synthetic crystal idea was boring, the bleeding of the crystals gave the kyber crystals more mystical proportions
I knew he was going to be a villain, and I was really expecting his lightsaber to already be red when he first ignited it. When i saw it was yellow, I was actually excited for another jedi to be included and my expectations to be subverted, but was a little disappointed when a moment later he bled the crystal
Getting to see him bleed his crystal was pretty special
One of the game's many "Oh SHIT" moments.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is one of the few times were the new canon makes waaaay more sense than the old canon. In the old canon, the reason for dark side users using red lightsabers was because they almost always used synthetic lightsaber crystals and somehow these synthetic crystals being "stronger but more unstable." Which even as a kid, I kind of felt "Meh" about that.
But establishing that even sith lightabers are powered by kyber crystals, just corrupted ones, makes it make sense that only dark side users would use them because they are the only ones depraved enough to corrupt a kyber crystal like that. The lightside equivalent of cleansing corrupted kyber crystals to make white lightsabers was also a nice addition imo
Him turning away from the order makes sense. Him turning straight Sith does not.
Turning your saber red doesn’t make you a Sith. Dagan makes it clear he intends to make a new Jedi Order in his own image.
@@MorallyDubiousFrog The significance of a red lightsaber is unmistakable. What advantage does bleeding a crystal do?
@@IlHansenIl It aligns the crystal with the dark side, which makes it a better tool for a dark side user.
@@MorallyDubiousFrog Back to someone turning to the dark side then.
@@IlHansenIl There’s a difference between turning to the dark side and joining the Sith.
Cal and Anakin had more rage and deeper mourning than Osha from SW Acolyte, yet their sabers never bled. Both even used the Darkside of the Force more than once (more than trice even).
Best scene in the whole game
5:17-5:44 such powerful imperial like music…
This is the first time ever I’ve seen a Jedi bleed his Kyber crystal in Animation before it’s amazing PS just let you know I played the game
I knew an 1 armed Bo Burnham would turn to the dark side.
5:35 dagans mouth moves as if lines were cut ? What do you guys think ?
Rancisis? The Master Rancisis? He's that Old? Wow
Yes, wish we’d see more of him
I still miss the Legends way of making Artificial Kyber but this is still so cool.
Had to explain what this meant to a friend and it blew their mind.
The red doesn’t look as pure bright red as I’d like, but it’s awesome
I was on DeganGera’s side from the start when I saw his character introduced
His back story made sense , it added up & after the Jedi order betrayed him he gained a realistic out look on the Star Wars galaxy from there 🤷🏾♂️✅.
#JediSurvivor #StarWarsFan
holy shit , i thought this was going to be like 45 seconds but it started with a f'n invasion
I've heard of Bleeding Kyber Crystal's. But to actually see it it's unbelievable.
Ya but thats more of a scrape type of bleeding. Kinda cute if you ask me. "Aw look, he's doin so good, my lil angry man."
It must be easier to bleed your own crystal than bleeding someone else's, I think that's why Vader had a harder time bleeding his stolen one
Watching a woman turn her lightsaber red like a LED light pipe brings me back here
My buddy was defending that scene so hard and I had to keep telling him Dagan did it better
One thing i love about the bleeding is that it almost seems like a compulsion. Kyber Crystals are naturally aligned to the light side so performing dark side acts and dwellong on darkness causes them to suffer. Its almost like you cant stand the screminf and pleading of your crystal so you force it into submission to shut it up.
Didn't notice it then but when he mentioned his duel with the Gen'dai he's referring to Rayvis
I wish we played as anyone other then Cal. Every antagonist is written so well.
The Jedi don't kill the one-armed
Actually true. Obi-Wan didn’t kill Anakin when he lost an arm and Luke didn’t kill him either.
But Anakins did kill Dooku so I guess if you lose both arms you’re free game.
He did pretty easy, when earth Vader tried to bleed his crystal it blasted him back and gave him a vision of him turning to the light side again
Bout time that we get to see someone bleed a kyber!
This guy gave me Uldren Sov vibes
THIS is how you bleed a crystal…not like in the acolyte 😑
Bleeding was introduced in 2015... after Disney bought Lucasfilm... and trust me, Lucasfilm was responsible with this games too
@@knightatyourservice7512 agree, but at least it was not like just flipping a switch while the sabre is on like on the show and then be called a racist when pointing it out how silly it looks
I approve of this retcon
Kind of his own fault for waking up a human Jedi with extremely notable Dark Side veiny grey skin.
He isn’t Grey skinned because of the dark side, he’s an alien.
His pupils are slited, like a cat's. He's not human.
I’m wondering what species Dagan belongs to
According to Wookiepedia he's from a race called Arkanian Offshoot-from a Star Wars comic or novel back in 2017
Defiler! Desecrator! Kyber crystals are not to be bled! It is unnatural, it hurts them!
That's the point. A bled crystal is in pain, it's been traumatized by hate and anger. It's now the perfect focus for a Sith/Dark Jedi who is in as much pain as the crystal. They harmonize and reflect each other's pain back at one another, building and seething like an open festering wound.
Imagine if we would have the opptornuity to bleed cals crystal
Apparently you get a red crystal if you _New Game+_
more dark orange than red
i feel if cal did not turn his lightsaber on he wouldn't want to fight
It goes to show how psychologic dangerous darkside can be.
I understand that it was shown to be fast for dramatic effect.
Bleeding (retuning) crystals was first introduced well before Disney took over and is not new. Tuning crystals was done in SWG twenty years ago.
Well I looked it up and the bleeding first appeared in Darth Vader 2017 5 that was written by Charles Soule. Or are refering to something else I missed?