Roland TR-8S vs. Original Vintage TR-808 vs. TR-8: A Friendly Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2018
- What do you pick?? Its a comparison between three machines: The new Roland TR-8S, the older (and my favourite) Roland TR-8, and the original big day king drum machine the vintage Roland TR-808.
We'll take a quick minute to listen to some 808 beats on the new Roland TR-8S drum machine and compare it with the original TR-808 in which it is emulating.
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It never hurts to have a Roland drum machine or two or three.
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Totally follow u on instagram for years, just needed some help with the TR-8S, and found u here! Cool!🎉
I have my TR-8S running through a tube compressor for warmth and it’s amazingly better. I’m able to squash it and really get the highs to mesh well with the mids and kick adding lots of glue. A much better solution than owning an old 808. Here is the compressor if anyone is interested. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ProVLA2--art-pro-vla-ii
It's interesting, what kind of tube compressor do you use?
Great video. Used to have a original 808 but sold it to get a Linndrum Bought Rebirth’s 338 version in 1996 and wasn’t disappointed.But with current 808’s selling at high prices today which is hype, both the Tr8/Tr8s sound good plus you get the 909.
The sound of the TR is only a part of the story. It integrates very well with modern workflows, and for me, that wins every time. They sound very close.
Are you sure you were using all 808 ACB sounds for the TR8S? The open hat sounds like a 909.
Not sure about the tr-8s as I never used it but I think the trick with the TR-8 is too have the parameters pretty much on center to get something more like the original. Would be interesting to hear how the tr-8s sounds next to the tr-08 though. Good video thanks for sharing.
TR 808 hands down 👌🏽
Sweet.
the pyramid is your main sequencer but you also use the built in sequencer in the drum maschines, does the pyramid also record these notes and saves/reloads them with the track/projekt
Kick, clap and snare from the OG blows the TR-8s/TR-8 out in space like the alien.
Tuna, I have the TR8 since 2014. I love my TR8 omg. Now I'm thinking of upgrading for Mc707 or TR8s. See, the TR8 is soo ready to go. I don't have to scroll thru sounds. That 909 is always ready.. Tuna, I value ur opinion, does the Tr8s sound better ?
I picked up an elektron analog drive for £99 to run my tr8s through . Sounds legit
Also have an rd8 because I love drum machines. Both sound awesome
I have the TR-08, TR-8 and a Digitakt. The TR-8 and Digitakt were purchased first and man, talk about buyers remorse.
I've realized that I've been playing with myself, the TR-08 is ALL I need for drum sequencing and this dude have the original.
Nothing program and groove like the TR-08 other than the 808. Roland burned me with the release of the TR-8S and the TR-08, but I'm very happy that the TR-08 was released none the less. I need to buy another for safe keeping.
Know this is a little off the subject, but is still has to do with Roland anyway. Are you using ARIA MX-1 mix performer & how many? Or is that 3 TR-8's I see in the rig lol? Is it a slave to the Pyramid? I'm looking for a fx box with mixer style tricks up its sleeve.
Joshua Johnson I am using the MX-1 (two of them actually- but I’ve also got two TR-8 machines as well)! And it is slaved to the Pyramid like you suggested, but it is also what syncs the all the AIRA gear and sends all the MIDI data to and from the Pyramid. It’s got some cool effects with some really unique tempo synced options, but it is limited as a mixer in some ways with no proper track eq settings and somewhat limited analog inputs. It sounds like it might really fit the bill for you though. I really have come to appreciate it to the point that I’ve committed to keeping them, unless something like an MX-2 might become available
The 808 is a little warmer
But the 8s is very good as well and you can do a lot more including adding your own samples!
Never fails . you can go to literally any video about a digital recreation vs the analog original and you will find 100 replies with " OrIgInAl SoUnDs WaRmEr" lol.
@@brobocop8293 yeah I guess I’m just one of those guys that replies with IT SOUNDS A LITTLE WARMER !
I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about.
Stupid of me to reply.
I’ll keep my comments to myself then.
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Wow The 808 sounds more creamy, more punch, more analog, I don't know if its a matter of tweaking, but in this video 808 wins!
Does the tr8s have the scatter function?
TR-808 hands down ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
4:54 it shows tr808 Vs tr8s with less or more the same tune...and sounds quite similar to me.. it is gr8t !
808 lacks the clarity but has a little drive on the bottom end. Run the ACB though a little tube warmth and they'd sound the same.
Paul McKenzie exactly what I’m doing. Check my comment above to see my solution.
THE TR8 (og) is the greatest drum machine of all time. I prefer it to the TR808 & the TR8s. sacrilege to some, but the TR8 is the most playable drum machine. It just does what it does flawlessly. Its a total blast to use. And it seems to pack a HELLOVA whallop.. TR8 forever!
100% agree. Its my favourite machine for its perfect simplicity and awesome sound.
Another video not showing tuning/equalisation exactly on all machines. It’s very easy to get them all sounding the same in a good studio setup. . Yes, I do own an 808 as well as various other drum machines.
Yeah it helped....my G.A.S. problems😂
The classic Is much warmer. but I suppose you can warm the new one wit effects. but they really should have just reproduced the classic TR 808 PSB's because people loved the original for how it sounded. specially with It being produced bur the Original manufacturers?
The original sounds the best then the TR8S then the TR8. The 808 sounds a bit louder than the other two. I am looking forward to the Behringer RD808's launch as it's a proper analogue clone of the Roland 808 so it should sound as close as possibly another Roland 808 can. I've steered away from analogue modeling as much as possible with my hardware. For me if I want a reproduction of the analogue sound I can always use samples. If I want analogue then it's best I get the analogue that gives me the true sound. That's my personal preference though.
You can't compare if you don't know the settings that were used in the TR8S and TR8. Maybe if you add a Compressor as the Master effect it will sound similar or better than the original 808. We don't know.
@@willdorak985 From just owning mine for 3 weeks I can tell the 8s is probably just programmed dry/factory settings.
I wish I could find an actual comparison of the clones over the years to the original CR/TR units. Simply try to make each clone sound as close as possible, then A/B the sounds and show additional tweakability for each clone sound. Even if it wasn't EVERY clone, at least do the most popular ones...
Lmao. This demo had me dying laughing the entire time.
iPhone 8 speakers say TR-808 all day
The original 808 sounds like it has some kind of reverb effect. I'm pretty sure the TR8S can sound similar with some effects.
The TR-8S has reverb.
One thing I notice about the tr-8 because I own one is that some of the tones are muted even at the highest volumes so you really have to crank it.
808 is much clearer and more defined. However, the TR-8S isn't bad either, with the exception of the clap. The clap on the TR -8S sounds very cheap and plasticy in this video compared to the 808. The TR-8 sounds the worst out of the three. However, I think all of this has to do with the settings for each of the sounds on each of the machines. I have a TR-8 as well so I know it is capable of sounding much better than the way it sounds in this video. I also think with some tweaking and effects (overdrive, compression, or transient shaper) applied to the clap on the TR-8S, it could probably get closer in tone to the original 808 clap. The reverb tail in the clap needs to be brought out more in the TR-8S's so it won't sound so cheap. The same goes for the clap in the TR-8 as well but the TR-8 clap will have to be processed externally.
Regardless, I don't think the TR-8 or TR-8S will "beat" an original 808 in any side by side comparison. I have an original TR808 too. I'm curious of the new Behringer RD808 as well. I think it will at least give the TR-8 a run for it's money. I can't speak for the TR-8S's because I never touched or seen one in person. On paper, the specs look great!! I'd like to play with it's effects.
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The clap on the tr8s is not tune properly
@@didierambact3978 yes ! listen at 4:54 then you'll notice handclap is quite similar ( for me ) on tr808 & tr8s. Maybe the volume of tr8s is a bit lower
with the original 808 I'm immediately in head nodding mode. It just grooves. The other 2 may sound close but at the same time lackluster. Not sure where RD808 will sit.
I would love it if you were wrong, but you're not.
its turned up more in volume
Tunings are different, volumes are different, decays are different, you know what you're hearing. It's basically very easy to create a non significant comparison. This is one of them.
@@lamdahalbe Yes, I never understand these comparisons.
How much did you pay for your vintage 808?
Probably 5 grand
what a diffenrence much more punch clarity ( real 808) but i think that the Always winning real analog sound engine.... the tr8s is a nother ballpark for more live performance tricks and stuff?!
Should have tuned everything identically.
Kick is much more powerful in 808
Tr 808 warm n low... 8s too crisp... The 3rd almost but muffled sounding..
808 is so much... sweet, warm, "souple"...
808 all day long.....
"This is kind of cool" win LOL
TR808 fat and rich ..the others just sound like plugins with custom controllers. Still tho, TR808 is overpriced, I'd take the 8S and/or maybe the Behringer...or the Behringer and most 808 plugins.
it is very frustrating to watch it with this constantly changing “transparency” video effect :/
The TR-8S can be made to sound IDENTICAL to the TR-808 and even better then the OG. I've done it with Samples From Mars one shots and there is literally zero difference. No magical analog warmth, fuzz, furry kittens and all that other nonsense. Amazing machine!
Yes agree. As an original 808 owner. The TR8s can do a close enough emulation.
Tr-8 sounds flat as a flapjack
Tuning was wrong on the TR-8 and TR-8S . Bad comparison
this was just too messy to draw any real conclusions.
It would be interesting to do a two video series. In the first one play the exact same patterns through each with the same tuning, panning, etc. and through the same effects chain (if any). Do it "blind"…just "Machine A" and "Machine B". Let people in the comments identify which they think is which. Take screenshots of the comments. Then, a week or two later publish the second video but reveal which machine is which. Compare reality to the predictions. I'm guessing all this "warmth" people think they hear in the 808 is just bias attributable to knowing it's the original. Therefore, my guess is the predictions would be all over the place. But take the screenshots so people can't edit their original responses after the reveal.
…or avoid "Machine A" and "Machine B" which some may perceive as A = 808 and B = 8S (first letter for older machine). Do something meaningless like "Machine Buttercup" and "Machine Raisins".
you need to balance/mix your vocal with the audio, you're inaudible.
yeah this is a bad one and i should just delete it
808 no question for me. It's not about the tone (which differs) or the noise tails (which differ) but the dynamics. There is simply no comparison in weight, depth and punch. With good monitoring and even with crappy YT audio quality you can notice the TR-8S sounds like an 808 put inside a cardboard box.
autoy sometimes things can sound better in a cardboard box
Bad demo mate
i know for some reason i havent just deleted it
what a pity to use awesome machines like this with those rokit 8 speakers :(
Yoann Riou actually just upgraded to focal alpha 80s and they sound super good. Hopefully that makes you feel better!
ahah for sure that sounds great to me and It should also sounds great into your studio ^^ now your machines and your ears are probably very grateful ;)
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i m looking for a TR-8S... thank you for your videos
The 808 is overpriced and overrated.
No need this shit.